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When several NATO nations revealed that they had dozens of Russian-made MiG-29s, the idea arose to fly them to Ukraine and turn them over to Ukrainian pilots familiar with the MiGs.
America would provide F-16s to replace the MiGs.
Poland had an even better idea. Warsaw would fly its 27 MiG fighter jets to the U.S. Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. The planes would be turned over to the Americans there, repainted and flown to Ukraine.
How to get the MiGs to Ukraine’s pilots would be left to the Americans.
Now, as Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that a NATO “no-fly zone” over Ukraine would be an act of war, and NATO intervention could escalate to nuclear war, Warsaw’s proposal raised instant American alarms.
The Poles seemed, in the old cliche, to be putting the monkey on our back, having the Americans take the primary risk of defying a specific warning of Putin.
Pentagon spokesman John Kirby splashed cold water all over the Poles’ idea:
“The prospect of fighter jets ‘at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America’ departing from a U.S./NATO base in Germany to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance.”
According to The Washington Post, CIA Director William Burns was at the same time warning the House intelligence committee that Putin’s nuclear saber-rattling is of concern, because of Moscow’s military doctrine of “escalate to de-escalate” during a regional conflict.
Russia, said Burns, will use tactical nuclear strikes “in extremis” if its forces fail to pacify Ukraine and the U.S. and NATO join the war.
Yet, the Poles’ MiG plan, now dead, is revealing for what it says about us.
First, while we support Kyiv in its just war, there are limits to that support. We are not going to risk war with Russia for the independence or territorial integrity, or even the continued existence, of Ukraine.
Second, as we are unwilling to send MiGs to Ukraine to stop the Russian bombing, lest that involve us in a war with Russia, what is there of sufficient value to us in Eastern Europe that we would actually declare war on Russia, a war that could horribly damage or destroy us both?
When the Russians hit a maternity hospital in Mariupol, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky castigated the U.S. and NATO:
“How much longer will the world be an accomplice ignoring terror? Close the sky right now!”
“Stop the killings!” Zelensky thundered: “You have power, but you seem to be losing humanity.”
Zelensky’s message to the U.S. and NATO, almost daily now, is: “Don’t be cowards. Man up. Do your duty. Close the skies over Ukraine, or send us the planes to do it ourselves.”
The U.S.-NATO reply: “We’re with you up to a point. But we are not risking our own security and survival, in what is not our war, for yours.”
Putin’s ambition, his goal, his dream, appear transparent — to bring home to the bosom of Mother Russia the diaspora Russians left behind in the lost 14 republics when the USSR splintered and came apart.
Those housing significant Russian minorities are Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and the Baltic republics of Latvia and Estonia.
Query: Would we really go to war with Russia if Russia invaded our NATO ally Estonia to bring home Russian peoples left behind at the end of the Cold War?
If Russia seeks to create a land corridor through Lithuania and Poland to its separated province of Kaliningrad on the Baltic, would we declare war on a nuclear-armed Russia to prevent it?
The Biden administration, with Secretary of State Antony Blinken in the lead, has said again and again these last two weeks that the U.S. will defend “every inch” of NATO territory.
Will we? What are we really willing to die for, and what should we be willing to fight for? For that means putting at risk the lives of millions of our people and the ruin of our country.
In World War II, we Americans did not go to war with Germany for Great Britain, when it declared war on Hitler’s Germany and then was defeated in France. We went to war with Germany only when Hitler declared war on us, four days after Pearl Harbor in December 1941.
America’s media are full of reports of the new “unity” in NATO.
But one of the matters about which the Allies seem to be most united is that the Russia-Ukraine war is not ours to fight and we should prevent its spread to any of the 30 NATO nations.
On national media, one also hears enthusiasm for bringing Finland and Sweden into NATO.
But Finland is the size of Germany and has an 833-mile border with Russia, which would be NATO’s largest. Is it really credible that the U.S. would declare war or go to war with Russia to secure Finland’s border?
Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”
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How could the same guy who wrote The Unnecessary War even think that?
NATO needs to disband and let the people who live in Poland, Finland and wherever else make their own arrangements.
Think: NATO evaporates, what happens? All the member-states close to Russia or Germany will have to make deals with each other and secure a permanent peace they can sustain.
Right now NATO is plugging up nature. Time to leave. It was time 50 years ago.
“First, while we support Kyiv in its just war,”
It’s “just” war, Pat?
Is it even “it’s ” war?
Given that the Ukraine seems to be taking its orders from Washington, the “its” war seems a stretch too.
Sad, it is to see a nation throw it’s own self interest away to please it’s master.
Oh, & Pat, thanks for essentially rehashing the old Putin basically wants to reconstruct the USSR (along ethnic lines) meme. Haven’t seen that one in at least 24 hours.
– It becomes apparent the Usual Suspects stand behind their beloved allies
in a more Jussie Smollet sense; to the student of their short and colorful history,
they have never kept a treaty if they didn´t feel like it – ask the feather Injuns.
Seen through the eyes of a Washington lawyer Article 5 obliges the US to send
condolences but little else.
The current situation can mean one of several things:
– The US are indeed the stereotypical schoolyard bully, and Vlad called their bluff.
– The US dare not get further invested lest their sheeple notice the Khazar behind the curtain (unlikely).
– The US are holding back until the sheeple are sufficiently psyched i.e. drenched
in video of Viagra-crazed Russian hordes ripping WMDs out of incubators.
– As for Königsberg the Russians still have not deigned to formally annex it i.e.
they are a bit more law-abiding than the US; as soon as USrael gets their sticky fingers out of Europe´s behind the natural German-Russian border on the Memel will emerge without any ado (except from the Poles, but they should be grateful if they aren´t charged rent).
Uncle Sam’s worst nightmare:
Hence the steady, Exceptional! drip
drip
drip
from Mr. Buchanan.
#DrainTheBedpan
The Party of Stupid appears intent on giving up the advantage given to them by the blundering Dems and their senile leader by trying to outwarmonger them when it comes to Russia. All the Dems have to do at this point is play LBJ to the Pubs’ Goldwater and they can avoid a complete bloodbath in the midterms.
That’s an excellent parallel observation.
There should be historical literacy tests for voting — those who pass would pass, and the Red+Blue merry-go-round might come to a stop.
It is misconception that Article 5 is a war guarantee. The US should stop listening to little Zelensky. The anti-aircraft weapons and drones have been more effective than some old Migs. Zelensky may be courageous but he is not smart. Russia has said it will end war if its demands are met which are quite reasonable. They even include allowing Zelensky to remain in office. If Zelensky was smart he would accept offer and perhaps he will. I would say any further NATO members is closed. Sweden has wisely stated it will not apply to join NATO. It is unlikely NATO members with exception of US will vote to allow Finland in and provoke Russia.
lol .. .this guy is a sucker for obvious US war propaganda, which makes his intellectual ability very low .. and so his opinions are worthless.
Senility is definitely setting in. Drooler Pat can’t remember Rosenfeld having the US Navy reporting German shipping locations to the Royal Navy so they could sink them, or having the US Navy attack German shipping – both contrary to the Neutrality Act. While Germany may have declared war on the US, the US had actually been at war with Germany almost 2 years.
US involvement in this war is just one more in a long list of cash cows for the armament industries.
Just as solid as US integrity.
What just war? If it is a just war, it is Russia’s just war. Putin was provoked by Ukraine and the US to act. Putin resisted taking action as long as it could. Ukraine kept on attacking Donbass area. Putin had to act. US is also goading Putin for the expanded war so they could blame him. It is the US and the NATO who are urging Putin to recreate the Russian empire. Not Putin. He is not interested. He wants to be left alone.
The US media and the right and left politician are itching for the World War III, so their masters, the defense contractors could make more money. The politicians need money for the upcoming mid-term elections.
This is a good time to fold up NATO and bring all the armed service members from all over the World back home. Europe can decide whether they want to go to war with Russia or make friends with Putin. Europe need Russia more than Russia needs Europe. The US has no reason meddling in their affairs. World war II is over.
South Korea doesn’t need American forces. They too can come home, so do those who are stationed in Japan and the Middle East.
The US is the biggest exporter of terrorism. The US failed in the Middle East, now it wants to destabilize Europe.
The World and the US media kept quite when US was bombing wedding parties, schools, playing children, and Hospitals in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria or the US supported Saudis and the UAE doing the same in Yemen. The US response, when it did come out sometime, first denial and then oops. Or better yet, put Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange in jail and torture.
Zelensky is a Jew. What does any Jew care about us Goyim? Zelensky will get millions of Ukrainian Christians killed with his typical Jew cowardice and hate then flee to Israel. It’s the same with the neocons — which is just another word for Jew — controlling Washington D.C. and its policies. Jews hate all Caucasian-Christians — we Caucasian-Christians in America covertly and Russian & Ukrainian Caucasian-Christians overtly.
Forget NATO.
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what your country can do for Israel.
“Just war”, ” maternity hospital”, amidst other nonsense in this essay. Time to put this old fart out to pasture; he’s starting to stink the place up!
Totally agree.
This whole plane thing makes me believe Poland is more trouble then its worth as an ally.
https://mobile.twitter.com/philthatremains/status/1501948580596117509/photo/1
Pat’s question reminds me of Charles de Gaulle’s bon mot: “Treaties are like girls and roses. They last while they last.” This includes the North Atlantic Treaty, of course.
Russia said (via Twitter) that the hospital had been recently converted to a military barrack.
Followed by Twitter immediately removing the tweet.
Leading me to the safe assumption that Russia’s is probably correct.
The explanation is simple. Poland is trying to get rid of twenty four obsolete fighter planes and have them replaced with F-16 – free of charge.
Sorry, Pat. We love ya’, but this is not WWII. Or 1956, and Russia is not the Soviet Union.
There is a germ of truth here: the US strategy is to re-start the Cold War in order to cost Russia and lock down the support of Europe.
…while we support Kyiv in its just war… — Pat Buchanan
Drinkin’ the D.C. Kool-Aid, again, Pat? Thanks for the reminder — no matter how reasonable you might sound about some things, just underneath your surface beats the heart of a chickenhawk imperialist.
Do you ever get the feeling”they” are trying to kill us , bio-weapons ,race riots ,fentanyl,”vaccines” and now the grandaddy of them all, nuclear war.
,,,,,they weren’t called the “hyena of Europe” for nothing……but HEY, everybody can’t be an eagle or bear.
LOL, this from a faggot actor, a Jewish puppet, hiding in Poland, while Ukrainians male civilians are not allowed to leave, but all Jews can flee to Israel.
No, his real message is “Let you and him fight!”
…as sound as the Dollar……OH, wait ,never mind.
Buchanan used to be on TV all the time. But I haven’t seen him in any interview in a long time, and today there are many alternative news media and websites that would probably be delighted to have him. Is he actually writing these columns? If so, how is it he never appears anywhere? If I’m wrong, please give me a link.
Mr Phibbs
This is the type of comment that I love. Tells it like it is.
I hate comments where people try to analyze every damn thing and try to sound intelligent.
The problem is the Jews. Period.
Pat, let’s check your pullups again, smells like you did a little jus ad bellum poopie. Just war is old dried-out crap Liberty University lifted from Aquinas and Augustine. Those guys are dead. Like for a while now.
Nowadays compos mentis adults know just war is third-tier Fordham grade mental masturbation, suitable for asskissing kakistocrats like Brennan but not for a former big shot like you. Right?!? Right!!
Use of force is in compliance with the UN Charter or not. Let a guy who knows his ass from his elbow explain it in his best assisted living sing-song voice, so we can cut down on the geopolitical senior moments, OK?!?
https://journal-neo.org/2022/03/08/the-legality-of-war/
It’s long, I know, so let’s put this little note up on your whiteboard, OK?!? What color? In Green?!? Good Job!! squeakety squeak-squeak, squeakety squeak squeak:
The USA Can’t Do Jack Shit About this.
So relax and play some bingo.
Here’s your Seroquel.
How Solid Are U.S. War Guarantees ? Well, for starters, we might ask Hungarians who lived during 1956 or Czech’s who lived during 1968. Then, we can go on from there.
It was great to be a NATO when it brought security. Now it brings only expensive bankrupting costs. like lost economic opportunities, and the possibility of total annihilation for being a member, even for the USSA.
“USA war guarantee is not worth a pinch of South Chicago coon poop” and that is because USA is only good at military ventures over there somewhere ( Korea — Vietnam- Somalia- Serbia- Afghanistan- Iraq- Syria) and executing unarmed women and children for President and Pope. Now –the USA Nuland Nazis in Kiev are in deep doo doo and where is Uncle Sam—-at home thinking about what Hunter is doing tonight. Camelot defined.
No need to read beyond that tripe.
The Maternity hospital was closed 3 years ago, it was all staged. Mariupol is the last stand of the Nazi’s, they will take as many with them as possible.
Not a solid at all. More like a gas.
We? I support Russia in it’s just war.
Fake news.
Nope. Putin’s goal is to remove a CIA controlled, nuclear armed Nazi regime from his border.
I love Ya Pat. But it’s time for you to retire.
US war guarantees are only good against countries that can not retaliate against America directly, Serbia, Iraq, etc.
About as solid as loose dog shit.
It can’t be the same Pat Buchanan writing this drivel, who gave the now famous “Culture War” speech in 1992 in Houston.
As far as the Russian military operation in Ukraine goes, it’s pretty easy to tell you’re on the right side when Klaus Schwab, George Soros, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Fat Fuck Commie Pope Francis, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Gerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, Mitt Romney, Bitch McConnell, Steny Hoyer, Bill Kristol, Max Boot, David French, Jonah Goldberg, David Frum, Victoria Nudelman, Robert Kagan et al. are simultaneously blowing gaskets about it.
The West is ruled entirely by wicked people who wish to completely destroy White Christian Civilization and it’s people.
Glory to Russia!
How solid are US peace treaties?
My money says you come crawling right back to Pat’s next article.
The next war that USA meddles in, will come to American mainland. Those days of watching Baghdad getting bombed, in lapdog channels, from the comfort of your home, are gone forever.
That’s its own punchline.
Rock solid. With the US, you are guaranteed a war. Just wait a little while, and boom! Murder Inc has an excellent pipeline: pulled out of Afghanistan and stole gold from poor people; still looting oil from Occupied Iraq; still looting oil from Occupied Syria; making “friends” with Venezuela with a dagger at the ready; still squeezing Japan after all these years. Yes, with the US, you are guaranteed a war.