Who will organize the debate between E. Michael Jones (defends the Church and criticizes Jews) and Michael Hudson (defends the Jews and blames the Church) on this great topic?

Please step up.

Would Hudson talk to Jones? This is a pretty amazing presentation that it is all the fault of the Roman Catholics and the poor Jews were just trying to get by. Hudson is fascinating but I am not sure if he is very informative.

I wish somebody would edit these transcriptions. They are awful. It’s like reading baby babble. Very few real sentences, all this repetition and circling around and unclear referents and just–babble. Gah

hudson appears to be a red diaper baby of trotskyist pedigree and he actually bought the rights to trotsky’s writings, after trotsky’s widow had passed away. his father was trotskyist trade unionist, who was jailed in the 30’s under the smith act, for advocating the violent overthrow of the government, under fdr.

this places him in the camp of the neocons, many of which were trotskyists and the bush family, who’s patriarch prescott bush, also advocated the overthrow of fdr, during the aborted bankster coup. this plot was revealed by the incredible smedley butler, author of war is a racket, where he outlined the true nature of the american imperialist war machine.

while hudson’s father and prescott bush, seem to be on opposite sides of the divide, they are two sides of the same coin, kind of like that swastika/star of david coin, the zionists wanted to use to “buy” palestine. they both advocate the idea of permanent revolution, that would later morph into the rainbow revolutions of the zioneocon empire and their permanent war of terror on the world.

before i am attacked by hudson groupies, for misrepresenting hudson’s intentions, i would like to point out, the contortions he goes through to down play and ignore the role of jewish supremacism, in the origins, financing and profiteering, of the endless wars and the jewish supremacist war mongers, best represented by the house of rothschild, baron rothschild and the city of london.

i find most economists to be clueless adult children, who never actually participated in building any kind of business, large or small, but insist on ‘splaing the intricacies of complex economic models, that have nothing to do with real world business. these model are then used by war mongers, to then sell us ponzinomic fraud, to fund their never ending wars. no better example of this than supply side economics, our own pcr pulled from his ass, which was then was used by reagan and bush, to kick off our decades long wars of terror on the entire world.

if the workers of the world should really control the means of production, why do trades unions not start their own workerowned businesses, rather than giving all their union dues to corrupt politicians, who never give them any return on their “investment”. why not build the workers paradise, rather than just strong arming concessions, out of the greedy businesses, outcompete them economically, to prove the superior nature of their economic models? i guess it’s easier to just start a revolution, than to build a new way of living.

Revolutions are always financed from outside. Otherwise they fail miserably, because fighting spirit and a just cause are not enough to win, unfortunately.

and there’s a lot of money to be made, especially when you finance both sides of a “why don’t you and him fight” war.

The church has always been about control through fear, it starts off with good intentions…then the grifters see an opportunity.

The Kings and Queens of Europe were just the roaming criminal gangs of yor. After bloody conquests, they legitimised themselves through pomp, ceremonies and a network of retainers and bribes, all to feed off the hard work of the peasant.

If you believe in Jesus then you wouldn’t go anywhere near a church. As for the banking system, lending at interest would of been happening before it was chronicled and legitimised, those criminals who became King or Pope are always looking for ways to live off others and would of turned the underground private arrangements into institutions for their benefit.

Human history has been one of struggle against the parasite, who demanded sheep and other types of commodities as tribute, which are bulky, hence the invention of money and a centre of control of the money supply.

I’ll give Hudson the benefit of the doubt and assume he’s just a confused 86-year old man who doesn’t understand what he’s talking about. But can you imagine how many young minds he’s vitiated with this tendentious pseudo-history?

It’s also bizarre that Hudson is a self-proclaimed communist. Communism is so passé and fulfilled its purpose, as a bulldozer to destroy all nationalisms to facilitate the control of global finance which has had Zionism as its nationalism.

Political causes that need a revolution to be implemented are never just and never in the commoners’ interests. Revolutions always start an tentative usurpations of power by an over-ambitious prince wanting to by-pass the tradition. The French Revolution started not in some poor village along river Yvette but in the Duke of Orleans’ palais royal where the fashionable crowd was encouraged to gather, read gazettes and discuss politics while sipping coffees served at supernatural prices. When they talked about abolishing privileges they targeted workers’ corporations in the name of right to work, far more than the nobles who could exchange their former rent-bringing privileges like any investment fund.

If Jones’s economic knowledge is as simplistically lightweight as Hudson’s knowledge of Church history, the debate will be less than informative. Hudson Channeling Zinn in his version of A Simpletons History of the Early Church…{{ the most evil theologians in history, Cyril of Alexandria, who based the Christian church on anti-semitism because he wanted to drive out all of the Christians who weren’t under his personal control. And most early Christians were Jewish. So he led pogroms against the Jews in addition to killing Hypatia, who was a mathematician, and he put in the Trinity idea and elevated the Virgin Mary to the Trinity,…}} . Perhaps Hudson confuses Cyril of Alexandria with Athenasius of Alexandria who is most associated with Trinitarianism. Perhaps Hudson has digested too many Jack Chick cartoons when he claims Cyril or any Catholic has ever ” elevated the Virgin Mary to the Trinity..”. Baby baby bable indeed.

A Jones and Hudson conversation on Usury, now that is a great idea.

The biggest kept secret from the Working Class is this. Nothing has value unless a human hand has touched it.

Mr. Hudson, I must admit to being surprised at how well informed you are on Church history. You did a great job delicately explaining some important topics… such as the Crusades, the depravity of the 9th century Roman church and that pathetic hack Augustine.

I was not aware of how involved the Vatican was with fiat banking. Good to know.

this is without doubt the single dumbest article ever published on Unz Review

Two important points on nomenclature that academics too often overlook…

A person who tries to follow the teachings of Christ is a Christian. A person who attempts to follow the teachings of the Pope is a “papist.”

Papists (like E.M. Jones) give themselves away by going on and on about the splendor of Papal outfits and the thousands of extravagant Cathedrals built at the expense of the poor. Papists very rarely have anything to say about Jesus or the Bible. It’s all about their sectarian “universal” traditions.

Also, papists on the Vatican payroll (including many academics) were absolutely critical in carrying out the repressive Inquisitions.

Papists did and still do despise Christian reformers, whom they routinely condemn as “heretics.” When a Vatican loyalist uses the slur “Protestant” it’s like using Negro instead of Nigger. They really mean heretic, while claiming to hold a monopoly on Church teaching.

Of course, that doesn’t mean everything that so-called Protestants say is correct. Not by a mile. The biggest confusion come from mistaking Freedom of Religion with Subsidized Religion… something nearly all Corporate Western Churches fail to distinguish. That confusion leads to so much unnecessary strife.

Semantic shit pretzel.

The Roman Empire, starting with Julius the Caesar, and later the Catholic Empire, starting with Carol the Great, and later the British Empire, were all financed by the Jewish Letters of Credit. Exclusively. Latin “credi” means “believe”, as in “yes, we have actual money, trust us”.

Not to mention the Sumerian Empire, or later the Persian Empire, or later the Muslim Empire, or the Federal Reserve, etc.

Give credit where credit is due.

HUDSON So it’s the literary people that describe this, just like in Greek and Roman history. It’s the literary writers that describe what was happening in the creditor landowning oligarchy that ended up stifling Rome. Also, in the 20th Century…..

And we anticipate here of course Hudson will mention the most famous literary GIANT of the 20th century who wrote extensively and literately and poetically about the Hudson’s top hot topic, USURY, Ezra Pound, but…..no! Hudson mentions two relatively unknowns…..odd, eh?

Well, we know who tried to kill Pound and why, and who saved him.

So does Hudson have an unstated agenda, throughout all his work, of protecting the eternal poor little tribal victims?

I’m all for his trashing and thrashing of Augustine, who deserves a good trashing and thrashing if anybody does, but is it truly true that the ‘good at trade Jew’ was a victim of Popish financiers and their royal allies? As someone suggested, let’s get Mr. Jones and Mr. Hudson into a debate on the subject and demand some source material!

Hudson is a Trotskyist, and he is going along with the Jewish program of dividing Christians. The medieval Catholic Church was against usury. That is a fact.

In Rennaissance times thes weakened because of the influence of Medici and other banking families, but there were Catholics who opposed aln that, like Savonarola.

Protestantism Judaized Christianity, which is why we have entire economies based on usury.

And raising the status of the Virgin Mary was not done because that wouud piss off the Jews. It was a way of raising thn status of women. And Jews resented that, of course.

Hudson here is producing pure drivel…

Surprisingly (or not) Hudson seems to take some liberties with historical truth even when thoroughly documented.
One may say that it was a slip of the tongue when he said ”the 1688 revolution that brought King George to England” when everybody knows that it was Willem Hendrik (aka William of Orange), sovereign Prince of Orange from birth, Stadtholder of Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Guelders, and Overijssel in the Dutch Republic, who became King of England, Ireland and Scotland in 1688 (retaining all his former titles).
But his assertion that ”St. Augustine changed the Lord’s prayer to “forgive us our sins” for which you have to pay the church to get to heaven, instead of “forgive us our debts” that you’d have to pay to the Romans – if we’re following Christian documentation” is a deliberate falsehood. If we’re following Christian documentation we know that the original prayer say ”debts” and ”debtors”:
Greek ὀφειλήματα (debts); ὀφειλέταις (debtors).
Latin debita (debts); debitoribus (debtors).
Slavonic долги (debts); должником (debtors).
Augustine and translators (like Wycliffe) used “debt” language in this verse.

It was William Tyndale (1494–1536), the great English reformer who first translated the Bible into English from Hebrew and Greek texts, who for some reason preferred “trespasses” (“and forgeve us oure treaspases, even as we forgeve them which treaspas us”) and became entrenched the Anglican Book of Common Prayer in 1549, and as of the 1979 edition it was still being used.
King James Version went back to using “debts.”

Where he got completely crazy revealing his biases is in that unrelated to the subject passage: The Catholic Church basically had been poisoned in the 4th and 5th Century by two of the most evil theologians in history, Cyril of Alexandria [the other being Augustin], who based the Christian church on anti-semitism because he wanted to drive out all of the Christians who weren’t under his personal control. And most early Christians were Jewish. So he led pogroms against the Jews in addition to killing Hypatia, who was a mathematician, and he put in the Trinity idea and elevated the Virgin Mary to the Trinity, knowing that that’s the one thing the Jews were not going to go along with because they wouldn’t have a woman as part of the Trinity.
What credibility can he retain when he is capable to utter with adamant confidence such enormities? Good Lord.

Prescott Bush, was it that Bush that financed Adolf Hitler Rothschild, until the Congress shut it down ? A later Bush listen to stories about goats, with “US” under attack. You should really see that video ! Gangster with the fingers jammed 😄

The banking hoax out of Christian bandits are a fact, as the book “The Da Vinci Code” are built on facts. The technical for to use zeros as “money” are to a big part from a monster, mass murdering in the hospitals, like another monster, the “pacifist” Einstein, created the hoax “nuclear weapon”. You live in a World where monsters use technology to manipulat humans by abstractions.

Gee, I thought when Rome , right after Colombo finished planting the Spanish flag everywhere in the New World, decreed, that anyone now dealing with Spain, France, etc. etc. etc. – which is run by the Pope and Rome – must relocate to the Catholic religion , otherwise you can’t do bizz in our New World lands. And after that, every Jew businessman became a ” born again Catholic”, changed their names and the rest is history – as in now the Jews had a piece of the Big Roman Pie. Of course, someone thought up the Doctrine of Discovery , which sealed the deal for even more Catholic Expansion into the New World – I wonder who thought of that murdering Plan and passed it onto Rome ?

The Jews and Muslims have always been slick businessmen , but the Jews beat the Muslims and the “honest” Christians when it comes to overtaking the financial rackets. They knew that most people are greedy and will help them get their ways , as long as the 3rd party gets paid well. They took over Rome, Venice, London and the USA like it was nothing – and it was the Greedy Gene in the rightly placed people that sealed the Deals for the Tribe. They made Trillions – now What ?

Trade Unions con the workers by give them plastic credit cards. Is it so hard to understand that technology can be used to create a herd of cattle, feed, not allowed to feed from nature?

Un-informed or rather dis-informed is more to the point.

The faith of the average Catholic churchgoer is Christian, but the Vatican is Satanic.

The Vatican City is less than a square mile of Italy, but contains so much art, treasures and gold, they had to build vaults under the buildings for the treasures, valued at many billions of euros. There is so much gold leaf and gold in the Vatican that even the Sun King Louis XIV would be envious. The gold candlesticks carried during Mass, are so heavy that the priests have difficulty carrying them. The Pope and his cardinals, bishops and priests eat gourmet food for breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper, prepared in the finest of Italian cuisine, the food supplied from selected farms.

Most of it financed by collection in churches from nearly 1.5 billion faithful Catholics around the world. In good faith, Catholics in poor countries give equivalnet of a hundred dollars of more a year – a lot of money for them – in the belief that the money will be distributed to even poorer people. But as the Wall Street Journal found out: “The Vatican advertises that it has set aside 50 million euros to help the poor and suffering, but a new WSJ investigation found that only 10 percent of what is given goes to those who need it.” Source: CBC.

The Vatican’s own bank and finance department invests the money in the most satanic place on Earth – Wall Street, which destroys and takes more lives with its financial markets and usury than military wars. The Wall Street banking cartel’s globalist neoliberal market economy, which their politicians in all countries implement for them, are responsible for the state of the world: 1.1 billion people are impoverished, a poverty that kills, 900 million are in a state of hunger, and 1 in 4 children do not have food and clean drinking water every day. Source: UNICEF. Numbers that are only getting worse by the day.

“The Vatican has major investments with the Rothschilds in Britain, France and the United States, with Hambros Bank, Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States they have major investments with Morgan Bank, Chase-Manhattan Bank, First National Bank of New York, Bankers Trust Company and others. “The Vatican has billions in shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc.

“You can get an idea of hw much real estate and other forms of wealth controlled by the Catholic Church, from the statement of a member of the Catholic Conference in New York; ‘his Church probably ranks second to the total annual purchases of the United States government.’

“Another statement by a Catholic priest is perhaps even more telling: ‘The Catholic Church must be the largest corporation in the United States. We have branches in every state. Our holdings of property and real estate exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T. and U.S. Steel combined. And our list of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States government.’” “The Catholic Church, when all its assets are included, is the most formidable stockholder in the world.

The Wall Street Journal said the Vatican’s financial transactions in the United States alone, were so large that they very often sold or bought gold for many millions of dollars or more at once”. “The Vatican’s gold holdings have been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to many billions of dollars. A large part of this is stored in gold bars at the US Federal Reserve, the rest in banks in England and Switzerland.

“But this is only a small part of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the United States alone is greater than the five richest giant corporations in the country. When all the property, land, stocks in Italy and stocks abroad are added, the staggering wealth of the Catholic Church becomes so formidable that it defies any rational assessment”. Source: Avro Manhattan, excerpt from his book The Vatican Billions.

The Vatican State’s countless sex scandals over many decades, in which thousands of children have been abused, should come as no surprise, when the legal age of consent in Vatican City was only 12 years old until 2013. This made sexual abuse institutional. It was only after strong pressure from the Italian authorities that they raised it to 18 years old. That does not stop the abusers, there are still many allegations of abuse today.

Pope Francis has emphasized the need to accept and welcome lgbtqia+. The Vatican is well aware that the organization has departments that promote sex with children and animals. There is a reason why he and previous popes have not made it a priority to uncover these matters, but rather covered them up.

When you examine the church’ organizations more closely, most of the clergymen are khazars in Christian denominations, Catholic and otherwise. Their job is to maintain the belief of the common churchgoers that the jews are the chosen people. They are not, they are og the seed of Lucifer. The Vatican is proof of that.

The The Protocols of the Elders of Zion written in 1895 are the best known, but there is a protocol from 1489, which became known when the FBI declassified documents about the 1895 Protocols. Here one of the advices, read orders, is, “Make your sons canons and clergymen so that they can destroy their churches.”

The FBI’s (Federal Bureau of Investigations) archives of declassified documents on the Protocols. Translated from English. Pdf document page 5 of 139.
Appendix. 1-A Protocol from 1489.
“The Revue des Etudes Juives, financed by James de Rothschild, published in 1880, shows how true (also the earlier) Protocols are, when they say that the learned elders of Zion have been working on their plans for centuries. On January 13, 1489, Chemor, the Jewish rabbi of Arles in Provence, France, wrote to the Great Sanhedrin in Constantinople for advice”. This was his reply: (summary).
“The advice of the great satraps and rabbis is:
– Become Christians, but keep the laws of Moses in your hearts.
– Make your sons merchants so that they can plunder the Christians.
– Make your sons and daughters doctors and pharmacists so that they can kill the Christians.
– Make your sons canons and clergymen so that they may destroy their churches.
– Make your sons advocates (politicians) and lawyers so that you may put Christians under the yoke and dominate the world.
DO NOT DEVIATE FROM THIS ORDER.
Signed V.S.S.V. F. F., Prince of the Jews, 21. Caslue, (Nov.) 1489”.

The Unz Review may publish this comment as an article.

Only on the Unz Review can we have catholic E. Michael Jones and anti-catholic Michael Hudson side by side. Wonderful! For an overview of what the Roman Church did for us (in addition to the economic issue here discussed), I recommend my own:

Please give us a link.

Hack professors who consulted the comic book version of The Prince have bastardized Machiavelli.

Niccoló considered Savonarola in the same category as the four “princes” he analyzed: Moses, Cyrus, Theseus and Romulus. Savonarola did not achieve their power because he did not maintain the monopoly on violence:

“If Moses, Cyrus, Theseus, and Romulus had been unarmed they could not have enforced their constitutions for long—as happened in our time to Fra Girolamo Savonarola, who was ruined with his new order of things immediately the multitude believed in him no longer, and he had no means of keeping steadfast those who believed or of making the unbelievers to believe.”

Smedley Butler said, All wars are Bankers wars.
Even more significantly, “there are no bankers in foxholes.”

And we anticipate here of course Hudson will mention the most famous literary GIANT of the 20th century who wrote extensively and literately and poetically about the Hudson’s top hot topic, USURY, Ezra Pound, but…..no! Hudson mentions two relatively unknowns…..odd, eh?

Same thought went through my mind as I read this piece: where the hell is Ezra Pound?! I kept expecting the name Pound to appear. But it never does. No Canto  XLV, no “monopoly of issue,” no “receipt for no work at all.” Not even a footnote. Surprising? Yes. Suspicious? Perhaps.

So I did what you suggested without suggesting it: here below the more tab is a rebuttal as Pound himself might have done it, using some of Hudson’s own categories: war-finance, papal indulgence, legal euphemism, the rise of the fiscal state. But whereas Hudson cautiously avoids naming names beyond institutional actors, Pound names them by family, city, and guild.

Pound wouldn’t have pretended that Jewish financiers were incidental. He named the Pierleoni, the Rothschilds, the Goldschmidts, not as scapegoats, but as nodes in the system of loan-capital abstracted from labor. He also named the Medici, the Fuggers, the Peruzzis, the Montagus, the Morgans. For him, usury was a heresy against nature, not necessarily a tribal patent.

So yes, it’s “odd,” as you put it, that Hudson ignores the one man who made usury itself the central poetic theme of his life’s work. Was it oversight, suppression, or some subterranean loyalty? Hard to say. But it does leave a Pound-shaped hole in this whole piece. Here below is the Pound-rebuttal…

‘LOGO DAEDALUS: The Pelagians!’

Oy vey!

I don’t exactly know who the Pelagians are.

But like the Klingons, they sound pretty bad.

I was a highwayman
Along the coach roads I did ride
With sword and pistol by my side
Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade
Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade
The bastards hung me in the spring of twenty-five
But I am still alive

— The Highwaymen, Highwayman

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Protocols_of_Learned_Elders_of_Zion_Part_01_of_01.pdf

EMJ came to my mind as well, especially his book, on money/economics “Barren Metal,” I hope he chimes in on MH’s interview.

Any article which talks about “pogroms against Jews” should be viewed with suspicion.

April 15, 2023 History: The Federal Reserve Cartel: Freemasons and The House of Rothschild

Outstanding historical analysis of relevance to an understanding of the so-called “Deep State” and today’s global financial establishment. First published on June 8, 2011. Nathan Rothschild: One Rothschild family biography mentions a London meeting where an “International Banking Syndicate” decided to pit the American North against the South as part of a “divide and conquer” strategy.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-freemasons-and-the-house-of-rothschild/25179

It is disingenous to cherry pick some artifact of some variety of Christianity over thousands of years and millions of people and then argue Christians anything . . .. Michael Hudson knows better but that is ignorant and lazy on top of disingenuous. And it isn’t critical to the argument is trying to show. : (

It’s also bizarre that Hudson is a self-proclaimed communist

I believe that Mr Hudson is not a communist, he is a Trotskyist, either self-proclaimed or covert, I am not sure.

Trotskyists are the worst enemy of Communists. Unlike the Communists, who triggered sympathy and achieved adhesion in the millions due to their Labour-supporting ideology, the Trotskyists always constituted an extremely tiny majority, mostly made of Jews in Europe.

Willingly or not, Trotskyists always were the “enemy within”, the Trojan horse brought in and supported by the wealthy class to destroy the Labour movement from within. Other for their scheming and trickery, they never achieved political representation in Western Europe, at times the Communists often did. Most of Trotskyists ended up becoming Neo-Conservatives, which is testimony to their true nature.

That is not the one from 1489 he mentioned.

Internet search calls it the Constantinople Letter or something like that and claims it is a 19th c. forgery.

Any good links would be helpful.

Remember, it’s the Catholics that have taken over finance and usury. Great Catholic men like: Larry Fink, Steve Schwarzman, Michael Milken, Michael Milken, Ivan Boesky etc. run the entire vulture capitalist world.

No mention of the Jews financing King Billy Of Orange from Holland, chopping off the Catholic king’s head and unleashing Cromwell on Ireland and carrying out a mass slaughter of Catholics. This reminds me of the Catholic Prime Minister of Israel murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians in Gaza. Darn Catholics!

Jewish Private Capital, Inc. Unlimited continues to buy up the world. Many medium sized businesses here in South Florida have been acquired by Jews, e.g., restaurants, apartment buildings, single family homes, and just about anything you can think of.

A few macro examples:

Paul Singer’s Hedge Fund bought enough stock in Southwest Airlines to put their people on the board, where they will no attempt to squeeze more profit at the disadvantage of employees and passengers. The stock price will go up.

Jewish Private Capital loaned Panama, Argentina, Brazil, Equador and othe Latin American countries money, with their land and resources as collateral. The loans were calculated to be very unlikely to be repaid. Result? The Fund will take ownership of the the country’s land and resources as collateral.

This happened in Moldavia, where the corrupt EU backed government borrowed money from Blackrock for defense purchases. That money cannot be paid back and Blackrock now has taken possession of Moldavian farm land. Which is unconstitutional.

There are but a minority of ongoing purchases of assets worldwide. Blackrock, State Street, and Vanguard – all Jewish controlled – have 30 TRILLION dollars under management. Private Jewish Capital only needs a certain minority of stock in order to gain board seats. From there they will control the Company. One lever of control is the Wall Street rating of the stock [buy, sell, hold ] and other outside pressures to bear. Of course Jews have either outright control or enormous influence of the media throughout the “Free” [guffaw] World”. Rupert Murdock’s holdings being a good example, e.g., the Wall Street Journal, The Economist, Financial Times, etc, etc, etc.

Under present political, economic, and social conditions today, they are unstoppable. Only Russia, China, and Iran have a firewall that keeps their seepage and sewage out. To a lesser extent, India.

I see lots of heat and fury analyzing the latest Pope selection. I think it really boils down to…

1. Will the new Pope lead his Church in the direction of the humble, peaceful, dynamic 1st Century Church… OR

2. Will he lead his flock in the direction of the 4th century post-Constantine pagan church, with its sick obsession with honorary titles, elaborate rituals, flowing robes and Vatican extravagances?

The best thing that ever happened to the Church of Rome was (after its long and violent resistance) losing its church-state Empire status in the 19th century. The prior ~15 centuries of Papal domination were absolutely horrible.

Thank you obwandiyag, I thought I was the only idiot in the room who had a tough time making sense of it all.
I like Michael Hudson but find him curiously inarticulate at times.

Hudson appears to have deep Trotskyist connections. I also vaguely recall him talking about this in an interview.

BTW, until now, I thought some of the things he said were OK. But the above is pure drivel, and its alterior motives are all too obvious.

From Hudson’s wiki page:

Biography
Early life and education
Hudson was born on March 14, 1939,[3] in Minneapolis.[4] His father, Nathaniel Carlos Hudson (1908–2003), received an MBA from the University of Minnesota in 1929.[4] His father joined the trade union struggle, became an active Trotskyist trade unionist, editor of the Northwest Organizer and The Industrial Organizer, and wrote articles for other trade union publications. When Hudson was three years old, his father was jailed “under the Smith Act for advocating the overthrow of the government through force and violence,” according to Hudson.[5] He had been one of the leaders of the Minneapolis general strikes from 1934 to 1936.[4]

Hudson received his primary and secondary education in a private school at the University of Chicago Laboratory Schools. After his graduation, he entered the University of Chicago with two majors: Germanic philology and history. In 1959, Hudson graduated from the University of Chicago with a bachelor’s degree. After graduation, he worked as an assistant to Jeremy Kaplan at the Free Press in Chicago. He managed to obtain the rights to the English language editions of the works of György Lukács as well as the rights to the archives and works of Leon Trotsky after the death of Trotsky’s widow, Natalia Sedova.[6]

Thank you Poupon Marx, for succinctly describing how the world really works.

One gets much more informed insight from your short comment than for millions of pages by Mr Michael Hudson.

now in defense of our fearless leader, he was reading that goat story to the first graders. granted they had to help him, with some of the words he was struggling with but he was large and in charge, remember he was the “decider”.

Donald Day spent twenty-two years in the Baltics as a Chicago Tribune Correspondent. In his book Onward Christian Soldiers, he writes of the poverty he witnessed in Poland when traveling there, yet the Orthodox Catholic Church was ever present, sucking what wealth there was from the Polish people.

Yes, there were Jewish moneylenders from time immemorial, but was it a thoroughly organized enterprise. Jews being highly involved in trading had capital in their possession -thus money lending existed. Jews could charge interest to non-Jews, but not to fellow Jews. I forget where I read it, but I heard this story of organized banking being first organized by the Venetians and other noble northern Italian families (and Roman as well) rather than the Church alone. I believe the author I read (wish I could remember name) said that the Church waffled on usury for a while, but was fully on board by the Renaissance. I will pose the question about when did Jews get involved in international banking on a larger level? Was it the Rothschilds? I know that Jews were given much more freedom in Britain after Cromwell (1640s-50s) -but where does it put them on the timeline of international banking? Hudson goes on about Orthodoxy, but really was Orthodoxy, after the fall of Constantinople really a threat? Was it any kind of a threat until Peter the Great of Russia?

agree but as to your last sentence, here’s a comment that i just left, that hasn’t posted yet:

Behind the scenes, Israeli advisors have trained Indian intelligence and urban combat units, and Israeli cybersecurity firms—some allegedly tied to NSO Group–grade spyware—have helped India track dissent, espionage threats, and insurgent networks. Israel, officially outside both NATO and BRICS, has become a central nervous system in the world’s most volatile flashpoints—from the Golan Heights to Gujarat.

well there’s your problem right there, as they say the devil is in the details. modi’s duplicitous nature was fully revealed in his support and participation, in the israeli genocide of the people of gaza. this is truly sad, for israel has been revealed to the world, as the genocidal monsters they are. they have lost support for their dark apartheid state all around the world. now they have the chance to buddy up, to a billion hindus and take advantage of their existing hatred of muslims, generated by 800 years of conflict.

i wouldn’t be surprised if the “terrorist attact”, wasn’t a false flag, staged by the same people that brought you “isis”. this is also playing into the hands of the u.s., that want to destroy brics. perhaps india should be replaced by iran, as the “i” in brics, to insure harmony and stability in the group. modi is a fool, who is hooking his wagon to a dying horse, as evidenced by his rafales all being shot down before they could come into the range of their pathetic mica missiles.

i fear the worst for india, sadly. here’s a link to that article:

https://www.unz.com/article/from-farmers-to-firepower/

Thanks, Iris.

That’s right value is subjective, internal. A rap record by some inner city hood rat has absolutely no value to me and never will. So at least you know something about the subjective value theory from the Austrian school. Very good. As far as the Roman church, or jew synagogue, or muslim mosque these religions are nothing but corporations now who by the way always need money. Give us money, gives us, give us, give us…

Ya and the kikes did this by controlling that central bank or banks and the money printing press (thank you Gutenberg the German for creating the printing press). The jews can be stopped these kikes are not and I repeat not invincible. All one country has to do is quarantine them from owning any property or business in said country. Perfect example, National Socialists Germany in the 1930’s and 1940’s. There’s the template to follow…

My understanding is that this Hudson guy is formally educated. That he could be so totally miseducated shows our universities are putting out total garbage. I’m sure this character was his teachers’ pet, repeating all their nonsense and lies. This article was so thoroughly inaccurate that I had to read through it like I was staring at a horrible accident. This is what we’re up against. We may be doomed.

It was the Jews. The Aiparu were already super money powered by the time of the axial Bronze Age when the old testament was written.

Hudson leaves these traveling merchants out of account. The money power came from their tons of metal money won at usury. Silver would fetch 3X the gold in India.

Think of it like a battery. The east west mechanism of usury was controlled by the highwaymen who controlled the overland routes. The Christian church in many ways is a reaction against the Haibaru. So is Islam. Mecca and Medina were entrepot cities on the routes.

Most people here are OK with usury as long as it is done by Catholics. Fink does not practice usury btw. He manages an investment fund. Mostly invest in stocks. Most money come from small savers.

The Pelagians were Christians who thought you had to actually do something to get saved, instead of hoping that when God plays eenie-meeny-miney-moe, he picks you. They were opposed by Augustine, the inventor of the ludicrous “grace alone” doctrine based on an ignorant mis-reading of the letters of Saint Paul.

Hudson appears to have deep Trotskyist connections. I also vaguely recall him talking about this in an interview.

BTW, until now, I thought some of the things he said were OK. But the above is pure drivel, and its ulterior motives are all too obvious.

This is my personal and very limited recollection of discussions undertaken on the UR.
At some point, in view of the Israeli barbarity towards Palestinians, commenters started deriding the traditional Leftist position claiming that “poor Israel was only the instrument of American imperialism in the Middle East“. This lead to an article on the subject by Diana Johnstone, where she chose Mr Michael Hudson as exemplifying the intellectuals defending this thesis.
https://www.unz.com/article/the-debate-over-israel-as-us-aircraft-carrier/

But the more the Gaza genocide progressed, the more this thesis appeared for what it is: either a pathetic delusion or a wicked cover-up.
Biden was bowing to a crime that was costing the Democrats their re-election to the White House, while every other Western country supporting Israel was now their de facto accomplice at the ICJ Gaza Genocide case.

In view of the blatant, which is that Israel controls and defines the USA’ foreign policy for its own goals, agaisnt America’s soft power, global image and national interest, public commenters started showing the same intellectual integrity displayed by Pr John Mearsheimer since 2007. Honest analysts started openly recognising that the Israeli tail wags the American dog.

So Mr Hudson came up with an article detailing his version of reality, where he first casually disclosed his long-term association with Israeli interests:

I think I should start with my own background, because 50 years ago, in 1974, I was working with the Hudson Institute, with Herman Kahn, and my colleagues there were a number of Mossad agents who were being trained. Uzi Arad was there, and he became the head of Mossad and is currently the main advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu.

And then more importantly, he managed to squeeze in, yet again, his twisted version of reality, where Israel is still the tool of American imperialism:

For the United States, what they wanted was the oil reserves in the Middle East. And again and again, I heard the phrase, ‘you’re our landed aircraft carrier in Israel’.

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-truth-about-the-destruction-of-gaza/

What beggars belief, in view of the insane massacre of Gaza children, broadcast in broad daylight, is why is this old man still using his small intellectual authority to defend the indefensible.

I agree.

In this case I think the main problem is the interviewer, who does not zero in when Hudson starts to wander, and ask the right questions to make Hudson reframe and focus his arguments more clearly.

Quite a lot of the time I had no idea whom Hudson was actually talking about—unclear antecedents, or no antecedents.

And who the heck was Henry III? Never heard of him. Well, he had a lot of trouble with the barons, which Hudson talks about, but Hudson assumes we all know who Henry III was.
Here is Google AI’s response to the question “Who was Henry III of England?”

Henry III was the King of England who ruled from 1216 to 1272, the son and successor of King John. He was the first child king in England after the Norman Conquest. Despite his long reign, he faced numerous challenges, including the Barons’ War and ongoing disputes with the barons over taxation and his foreign policy. Henry III is known for rebuilding Westminster Abbey in the Gothic style and for being forced to establish an early form of Parliament during his reign.
Here’s a more detailed look:
Key Facts:

Reign: 1216-1272

Father: King John
Age at Accession: Nine years old
Challenges: Barons’ War, disputes over taxation, foreign policy failures, including the attempt to conquer Sicily
Accomplishments: Rebuilding Westminster Abbey, establishment of an early form of Parliament, charitable donations
Legacy: Often portrayed as a weak and indecisive ruler, but England prospered under his long reign, according to the New World Encyclopedia.

Notable Events:

The Barons’ War: .

Faced immediate conflict with rebellious barons due to his father’s unpopular rule and failure to uphold the Magna Carta.
Failed Campaigns in France:
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Attempts to reclaim Angevin lands in France led to financial strain and further conflict with the barons.
Provisions of Oxford and Westminster:
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Barons forced Henry to agree to reforms that limited his power and established a council of advisors, marking a significant step towards the development of Parliament.
Second Barons’ War:
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The king’s continued disregard for the Provisions of Oxford and his reliance on French advisors led to a second revolt under Simon de Montfort, who even captured Henry.
Westminster Abbey:
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Henry III is credited with rebuilding the abbey in the new Gothic style and establishing it as a major religious and political center.

If the entire purpose of forming a sovereign nation under a common Constitution is to
“… promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”, then why would that nation allow itself to be taken over by a private money syndicate? Wasn’t then the 1913 coup a treason by the people’s Representatives in Congress? And wasn’t Woodrow Wilson, installed as President specifically for his idealistic naiveté, ruthfully abused? And would that not be a just, sufficient and a complete, cause to dismiss Congress in its entirety, and in perpetuity, and replace the Indirect Democracy model it epitomizes, with a Direct Representation model via personal electronic device ? A model that was not technologically available in 1913, but is now readily available to all, and available world wide ? After all, bribing 300 mln people armed with phones and AI, is infinitely more expensive, than bribing 400+ maleable career politruks. No private money syndicate could manage such enormous cost, especially in an open, instant messaging, forum. More so, Direct Representation will naturally incentivize popular participation in the nation’s collective management, that the Indirect Representation now so effectively disincentivizes.

And isn’t the “money” merely a lubricant to enable commerce, and thus to “promote the general Welfare”? The entire planet knows this by now as the Modern Money Theory – an observation that inflation is not a calamity we were taught to avoid like death, but merely a collateral effect of money flow. The flood of “credit” after the 2008 boo-boo proving all that in affirmative, both in US, and especially so in China, where ” cat color don’t matter, only if it catch mice”.

The time is now.

Mazel Tov

real good comment.

As an ex leftie, ani-com faction, I have never taken anything Hudson says as nothing more than leftist economic cant.

What the Left has to say about economics is always suspect.

Hudson is probably a Jew, although you don’t have to be a jew to be nuts, but it helps.

To write anything these days, there is always a Jewish question to be addressed. Hudson does not address… Ergo, Hudson is a jew.

Thank you. Excellent comparison. Most enlightening.

Economists don’t talk about debt, they don’t talk about finance, they don’t talk about interest, or how it began at all, because it didn’t begin in the private sector. It was the Catholic Church that created and sponsored the first international banking in the 12th and 13th Century.

The first private banks were ships bobbing at anchor, and they would put out a lantern, to let borrowers know they were open for business. This was before Christianity. It’s true, economists are usually functionaries and apologists of the system they operate within.. The first banks were state banks… the Temple priests in the barley cults e.g. Sumer (also before Christianity).

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3141839

The above link was in response to a Hudson article in 2019.

To borrow the talents, you had to row out to the ship acting as a bank. This would be Jew-debts from the Aiparu who had ton’s of gold already by this time in history. The g0d-king city states were out-maneuvered by the merchant. Gold was international money, as it could be melted down and spirited out of the country. So, while this wasn’t double entry private debt creation, it was still gold debts that couldn’t be paid. The debt claims grew outside of nature, and thus people were put into debt slavery.

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What Hudson doesn’t talk about are triangular flow of debts between Persia, Sparta, Babylon.

It goes like this: Babylon makes loans to Persia, payable at a high rate of 33 1/3 %. After paying back the principle, Persia found she could not keep up with compounding interest, payable in Gold. Commerce grinds to a halt in Persia. King Cyrus of Persia went to war against Babylon 536BC and won and recovered the gold.

Persia then spends its conquered gold and there is a flash of economic activity. New cities, new armies, new industries, and this flood of wealth sent Persian merchants to Greece.

Greeks want Persian wares, so they borrow with the promise of returning the loans plus INTEREST.

In 412 BC Sparta borrowed 5,ooo talents from Persia to build warships. In 405 BC, Lysander of Sparta used these ships to destroy the whole Athenian fleet, which was attacked while drawn up on a beach.

This then made Sparta the number 1 economy in Greece, on borrowed gold. Sparta also had its internal money, the peleanor, which was iron disks dipped in vinegar. However, the external debts in gold were compounding.

When Sparta conquered Athens, she TRANSFERRED THE DEBTS, to Athens. Greeks really began killing Greeks at this point in time.

Usury based money makes populations go insane.

In 336 BC Alexander noticed the treasury was empty, so he attacked Persia. Persia had the gold from her interest charges on Athens. Alexander’s Grecian phalanx won against the Persians, gained an empire, and also millions in talents of gold from Darius’s banks and temples.

Rome also was a usury empire as Hudson points out, it had to conquest to pay the debts to its oligarchy. After the second Punic war, this went into overdrive, especially as Rome adopted precious metal money as its money type.

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This history of man is that of the kings having their head up their rectum. Or, the King’s economic advisors have their head up inside of their rectum; witness Trump and his advisors giving bad advice.

Kings don’t realize that all money within their kingdom, is the sovereign right of the king. This immense money power means that Kings don’t have to put up with all sorts of crap, including bad behavior from the church. Money is law, not gold.

A good example of an ignorant king – is Putin not having nationalized the Russian central bank, and leaving Nabiullina in place. Or, the U.S., allowing itself be hoaxed and jewed in the 1912 election, thus overturning the republic. The U.S. became finance capitalist after 1912.

Jones would take Hudson’s head off in debate. Let’s hope it happens. Hudson can argue all he wants with cherry-picked data, but let’s let mankind decide whether the Jews are rightfully categorized down through all ages by the OED definition of “to jew,” meaning to overcharge, underpay, chisel, and cheat. Such fine people, the Jews.

Going back to Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice, the Jews were rightfully viewed as evil. The Venetian ghetto wasn’t a prison, but a heavily fortified enclave protecting the Jews from recriminations for their depradations against the most vulnerable people, those hopelessly in debt to the Jews. Let’s move forward to post-WW I and the same Jews repossessing the farms of German soldiers who died on the battlefield, throwing the wife and children into the street. Gaza is not some anomaly, but what the Jews are really all about.

Depending on where you live, you’ll be getting a few hundred to a few hundred thousand Gazans moving in pretty soon.
When they’re stealing the washing off your clothesline and climbing through your windows, keep telling yourself:

These are an oppressed people, Jews bad!

A few details in the interview shed a little more light on what the mainstream is hiding. The Vatican is a mafia organization that separated from the mother church and by its nature is trying to conquer new territories, i.e. the whole world.

In doing so, it uses all means, genocides, extermination and enslavement of peoples, creation of artificial nations, by provoking wars. For the first time, we hear that the main goal of the Vatican was the destruction of Orthodoxy, which is still relevant today.

At one point, they even succeeded. Faced with the Ottoman threat to Europe, they blackmailed Orthodoxy, took over all the churches and introduced the Catholic sermon in Constantinople, which was supported by both the emperor and the patriarch of Constantinople, and all the Orthodox churches signed their own abolition.

Only the Serbs did not send a representative to the Council of Florence, which was later heard of, and the uprisings of the people in Constantinople began, and over time, one by one the Orthodox churches withdrew their signature on their own self-abolition. Therefore, the primary goal of the Vatican is the destruction of the Serbs as a nation, and they have been doing so for several generations, inspiring Croats and Germans to do so at every convenient historical opportunity.

The paradox is, or perhaps not, that it was precisely the Serbs who were crucial for the development of Christianity and its existence as a world religion, because they were the first to persecute Christians (emperor Decius, who was the first to systematically persecute Christians, Diocletian, who was the most fierce), tolerated Christianity (emperor Galerius with the Edict of Toleration), Constantine and Licinius, who issued the Edict of Milan to legalise the Christianity, St. Jerome, who was the first to translate the Bible into Latin, which is still used, Justinian, who built the largest churches, Martin Luther, who started Protestantism.

We follow the Vatican’s conquest of territories and the destruction of Orthodoxy in southern Italy, the destruction of Orthodoxy in England. The destruction in France is not mentioned, but there is an attempt to destroy Serbia (Hudson says – where Yugoslavia was).

In addition to the financial domain, the Vatican has also destroyed the spiritual sphere, such as history, where we have countless forgeries that even readers on the unz consider mainstream and react very frustrated when something appears that is not in accordance with their indoctrinated matrix. Now we have a personal and organizational union of the Vatican and Zionist circles that have a common strategy in conquering the world.

Pound’s lexicon is austere: usury is any receipt for no work performed, any claim on the future that is not redeemed by present labor. Hence his axiom in ABC of Economics: “Money is a receipt for work done. Usury is a receipt for no work at all.”

Silvio Gesell’s definition of usury is good too. Gesell defines usury as a power relationship. The usurer is extracting life energy via a superior power relation. Since creditors are over debtors in power, then creditors are usurers. Creditors create debts, and the word debt and sin were synonymous in languages at the time of Jesus. All monetary debt/credit relations should be pre- examined by law, to determine usury, prior to the contract being signed. The Venetians did this before they became corrupted (about the time of Jew entry in Venice, when the Arsinoe canal was dredged). They would examine all contracts and determine who held the risk, and how credits and debts would play out..

Gesell goes on to describe a situation where a gold holder is out-waiting a producer of goods and wares. The goods are perishable. Let’s say they are eggs. The egg producer become more desperate over time, to sell his perishable wares, and hence is lowering his prices. The holder of the gold coin, which is shiny and does not rust, is in the power position. The gold holder retreats and waits for the low price. The power relation is simply the nature of a noble metal (doesn’t rust) vs perishable goods. Time does not rust gold. Gesell thus comprehends time as a component of usury.

Civilizational usury was done by the Aipaur/Haibaru/Jew on the trade routes. The people of the west were worked to death in the silver mines, so the merchant could spirit sliver out of the west, to then take usury arbitrage of 3X on the trade routes. The excess gold/silver now pocketed would go to pay “toughs” to protect the routes. This is a power relation, where the taking of life energy (people working to death in the mines), vectors to a hidden pick pocket (the Haibaru), slicing of exchange rate arbitrage for him and his crime family. This is civilizational usury, draining the West and the east: Indus valley.

This sort of bad behavior can exist in all civilizations, as man is a rent seeking animal. It takes a King and his enlightened/selected cadre, to then work as god’s agents on earth. The divine right of kings was abrogated when the Jew invented corporatocracy, dethroning the Kings, and making themselves hidden rulers/creditors. It didn’t help when Christianity had become perverted, but usury has existed since forever, even before money was invented.

Since usury it is a power relation, and creditor is over debtor; then creditors would always attempt to extract rents, as much as they could get. HEY, your daughter can work in my household as a sex slave – she is young and juicy. Your debt to me is over, once you transfer your daughter into my household.

The village elder, king, or Temple priests would step in, to balance credits/debts, and prevent sordid gain taking. Perverted Christianity, especially Judeo-Christianity does not have the ability to discern anymore.

DOCUMENTARY ON THE HISTORY OF USURY/ CENTRAL BANKING…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZyQbNl6Dss

He seems to be gaga.

Agree with that👍

The personal and organizational union you’re referring to is already in existence between Serbia and Israel, both of them are fraudulent countries pushing holocaust narratives to oppress their neighbors.

“The Catholic Church is this perpetually defeated thing, that always winds up vanquishing its enemies.”

This includes enemies such as Pope Francis (Bergolio the Marxist), or any other Pope. Incredibly, it includes Unz “inta-leck-chuls.” What’s funny about all this “Papist” talk, is that for the grand majority of the 2,000 year old Church, Catholics had no idea who the Pope was. 1958? No regular Joe had any idea who Pope Pius XII was. Zero. It’s only now in the TV-cell phone-Internet-Instagram age that it’s an issue. Oh, brother.

Of course, it’s the confused Protestants, with their 10,000 different sects, each claiming to be right, that always obsess over the “Papists.” LOL

The BBC once did a descriptive rating of all religions in the world in which one of the definitive determining criterions was whether divorce was possible, impossible, easy or difficult. And, actually, all conceptions of reality are variants of Dualism and Non-Dualism. Metaphysical Non-Dualism is very difficult to comprehend even theoretically, let alone to actualize, (because you would have to grasp that evil and darkness don’t exist, it only appears that way, and even the world does not exist, it only appears that way). Which is why something like Monism is usually passed off to the unwary as “Non-Dualism” instead of real Non-Dualism. (In Monism, a neutral God creates both good and evil, as he likes.)

Dualism, on the other hand, is instantly clear to the simple minded, like Freud (a Jewish radical Dualist), or Jung (a Christian relative Dualist). In radical Dualism, there is light and darkness, good and evil, but, in realized Manichaeism, darkness and evil are not merely the absence of light, but an existential Anti-Light, and evil is an active substance, which exists on its own. In other words, evil, in Dualism/Manichaeism, is divine. A reality in itself. In that state of mind you could have a flashlight which produces darkness, and in modern science, (which, unlike traditional science, is Dualism), you do (“Dark holes,” “Anti-matter,” and lead can be transmuted into gold). And when a person “understands” Dualism, and thinks that Evil is one of two gods, he has an “enlightenment” experience in which he thinks everything has now become clear to him. He is an Illuminati. Also known as “indoctrination.”

The epitome of Dualism, its supreme manifestation, is classical Manichaeism, which, in its derived forms, such as Southern Baptists, Mormons, Calvinists, Shi`ism, Tibetan Buddhism, is the most wide-spread religion in the world today. Or, in its non-religious, progressive form, for rationalists, which is Communism (or “Existentialism” or “Freudiansm”). In Manichaeism there is a god of Good, and a god of Evil (although Faustus denied to Augustine that that was what Manichaeans actually believed. It only looked that way, according to him. Which, you will note, is an irony.) In Marxism the two gods are Thesis and Anti-Thesis, and their interaction is the “Laws of Dialectical Materialism.”

A hundred years after Mani, who had been received by Shah Shapur in 242 AD as a useful agent of development for the Sassanid state, was thrown into prison, where he died, by a successor king, Bahram, under the influence of a Zoroastrian priest, Kartir, Manichaeism split into two groups. The two groups are: those who said you could have Manichaeism in one kingdom within an unregenerate world and those who said you could not have real Manichaeism anywhere until you have Manichaeism everywhere. This split always occurs. Again and again. (Fatimids, Stalinists: “Communism in one country”) and the “Pure” (Qarmatis, Trotskyites: no Communism without “World Revolution,” just preparatory slaughter of “reactionary” elements.) And then the Trotskyites became Neocons. They are not “conservatives.” For them, it is not a perfect world, until everyone can change their gender every day, which, for them, is “Real Freedom.” Are they conservatives?

My truth is a little lower so you’ll need knee pads. Enjoy, you have my permission.

Pdf page 5 from the top, reads: 8 Appendix. 1-A Protocol of 1489.

Pdf document page 5 of 139, from top of the page:
Appendix. 1-A Protocol from 1489.
“The Revue des Etudes Juives, financed by James de Rothschild, published in 1880, shows how true Protocols are, are in saying that the learned elders of Zion have carrying out their plans for centuries. On January 13, 1489, Chemor, Jewish rabbi of Arles in Provence, France, wrote to the Great Sanhedrin in Constantinople for advice”. This was his reply: (condensed).
“The advice of the great satraps and rabbis is:
– Become Christians, but keep the laws of Moses in your hearts.
– Make your sons merchants that they may despoil the Christians.
– Make your sons and daughters doctors and pharmacists that they may take away Christian lives.
– Make your sons canons and clerics so that they may destroy their churches.
– Make your sons advocates and lawyers that you may put Christians under the yoke and dominate the world.
DO NOT SWERVE FROM THIS ORDER.
Signed V.S.S.V. F. F., Prince of the Jews, 21. Caslue, (Nov.) 1489”.

What meaningful difference is there really between the serb and the jew? They are both subversive ethno-narcissists who cause more trouble than they are worth. Once the jewish holocaust narrative crumbles so will the victim narrative conjured up by the treacherous serbs, both share the same rotten root in post-war propaganda.

Hudson’s ethno-religious background has as much influence as his trotskyist heritage in his pseud0-historical tirade against the Catholic Church. He identifies with the protestant princes who rebelled against Catholicism as positive agents in the history of economic development. This is despite the fact that the credit these princes acquired came via looting catholic monasteries, this is the true source of they’re ability to conjure up credit for either war or banking.

This intentional obfuscation is particularly galling as it explicitly contradicts established marxist orthodoxy. Marx himself credits these catholic monasteries with enriching the peasant class and eventually allowing enough wealth concentration to allow the emergence of a middle class. Hudson doesn’t even have enough integrity as a communist to make this distinction.

Hudson and his protestant brethren lack the guts to admit that they could not think of any other use of this rich heritage other than using this stolen capital to fund an international capitalist reign of terror that is sustained by immiserating their kinsmen in unrepayable debt. To admit this truth is to admit how inadequate they really are.

Hudson makes sense in a few areas, and in other areas he will always be a kook who serves exactly what it is he thinks he opposes.

Anybody who thinks Rabbinic Judaism was not operating on the worst possible usury all through th decline of the Western Roman Empire and then throughout the Dark Ages, when Jews began gravitating in large numbers to live among and near al Germanic tribes, who somehow keep finding money to keep building new pirate ships, is invincibly ignorant. That Jewish drive to cozy up to all things Germanic, while opposing all things ‘Roman,’ was so defining that over a few centuries Yiddish, which is nothing but Jewish Saxon – Jews devising their ethnic dialect of German, became the international language of Jewry. And Jewry has never stopped finding Germanic tribes/ national cultures to finance via usury to wage war against – well, the world.

The reality is that it was both the papist cult and the Jews, who have always operated together since the papist cult was formed 1000 years ago. Everywhere the papist cult has spread, it has brought Jews with it.

You are clearly one of the Croats who were assigned the dirtiest jobs by the Vatican mafia organization. That is why the Croats are the only genocidal group in the world and I have yet to see a single Croat who has ever acknowledged the Croatian-Catholic genocide of the Serbs. Here are a few more details from a comment that you can read in full:

https://www.unz.com/article/the-stakes-in-the-2025-papal-conclave/#comment-7102670

There were 100s of locations in WW2 Nazi Croatia (pit caves, pits, villages, towns, etc.) where Serbs were slaughtered including multiple large extermination camps. Croats even had at least one extermination camp just for Serbian children. Estimates of Serb deaths in the largest, but not the only one, extermination camp called Jasenovac (5 times the size of Auschwitz) according to Gideon Greif [2], were at least 1.4 million. He explained that Serbs were tortured/slaughtered in 57 different ways.

He also mentioned that the total number is for sure higher as many victims were not buried in mass graves, but rather thrown into Sava river, burned in furnaces, made soap of (yes you read that right – Croats made soap of murdered Serbs), etc. Note that those were extermination camps and not concentration camps, as Croats did not feed the prisoners, since they were brought in to be slaughtered asap.

According to American WW2 findings/reports, around 1,300 Croatian Catholic priests took direct part in murders, rapes, etc. Yes, you read that right – Croatian Catholic priests slitting throats, raping women and girls, torturing people, etc. as reported by USA WW2 archives.

These 57 ways of killing Serbs, inspired by the Vatican, can be seen in the following table. Now if you condemn these Croatian crimes I will immediately withdraw my qualification that the Croats are a genocidal group without a single exception.

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Yiddish has many German words but it is NOT a dialect of German.
Go to the neighbouring thread – T.Zaja (Slava Khazaria), read comments about this issue and make your comment.

Like most people on the left (or “the right”), Hudson allows the anti-semitism taboo to cloud his reasoning. They are allowed to criticize “Zionists,” but a switch is flipped in their minds when it comes to extending any criticism to Jews themselves, or even to recognizing Jews as a coherent interest group.

You intransigent serbian subhuman, the communists burned all the official records at the end of the war in order to inflate the suffering of the serbs while covering up atrocities committed against slovenes and croats. Your endless whining is reminiscent of the victim complex shared by the rapacious jews, both of you are haunted by fantastic projections of supposed grievances committed against you fueled by paranoid fantasies that arise from your own dishonesty and projection. The orthodox slavs are experts in endless ethnic moaning and self-victimization, they share these traits with jews, greeks, arabs, and all other orientals.

This godawful attitude arises from the refusal to participate in the Body of Christ. The refusal of the orthodox laity to obey the orthodox bishops in adhering to the authority of the pope violates the order of heaven. The orthodox laity have therefore ceased to be orthodox, there is no orthodoxy when the laity disobey the careful and loving stewardship of the successors of Christ in the bishops. Today there is only a variety of ethnic mafias who act in rebellion to true orthodoxy, what example have the serbs set other than regicide, disunity, and disobedience?

Serb you are to obey your betters, your unruly mob of unrepentant traitors are not orthodox. You are a horde of barbarians occupying the seats of orthodoxy while masturbating to fantasies of your lost “greatness”, seeking to achieve “theosis”.

That’s funny. The kind of BIG and insane lie always told by the most evil. Like the serpent in the Garden.

And what language group do you assert Yiddish belongs to?

Is Hudson a self-proclaimed Marxist? Obviously he is not any kind of doctrinaire Marxist.

Your opening paragraph is one that every person needs to grasp. The Reformation was two things: One is a vehicle for a brilliant but also neurotic and rebellious (because he hated his father) Saxon monk devising a new slogan that he asserted was not merely true but that was the total essence of ‘The Gospel.’ The other, which the Saxon monk seems never to have considered possible and which the Saxon then embraced as necessary to bring the truth to the world, was that a bunch of younger brothers and sons, as well as cousins and nephews, of the titled nobility and the super rich peasants saw the theological and philosophical debates as excuse to take up arms to back the Saxon revolutionary monk on the ground, which then meant they would be able to take from their kin all they wanted, as long as they killed enough people to win battles.

Obviously, the Reformation won in areas in which its adherents killed the most people and inflicted the most terror on average citizens. And yes, every major Reformation group got some funding from Jews as part of the drive to steal all that they could.

Overall, I agree with your assessment, I have the same problem with Chomsky too. On the other hand, I am also in academia, and I know how things work there. A few people are allowed to criticize Israel, as long as they do it the way Hudson does it in your cited passages, or how Chomsky does it, which is the same. It is all about US imperialism, it is not Israel’s fault, and US imperialism has nothing to do either with Israelis, nor Jews living in America. I do not like this, but I am used to it, if Hudson had some reasons behind talking that way, one could explain it away, especially, since it is not one of his commonly discussed topics anyway. Being in academia, I am happy, that these people express SOME criticism of Israel, even if it leaves a lot to be desired (one should not take it too seriously though, especially, since they never identify the root causes).

The above article, though, takes this behavior to another level, because there are no mitigating circumstances. It is a stupid Trotskyist type, divide and conquer, attack, and is mostly complete drivel.

Wherever he falls in the marxist spectrum, the pseudo-history he has presented here is a radical break with the established marxist focus on the source of the material wealth of the protestant princes who set into motion the modern capitalist economy. Marx at least decried this injustice, Hudson doesn’t want to admit that his ethnic kinsmen whether capitalist or communist lacked the moral restraint to provide a superior alternative to the Catholic system. Both of them feature suppression of wages leading to economic and demographic stagnation.

Like most people on the left (or “the right”), Hudson allows the anti-semitism taboo to cloud his reasoning. They are allowed to criticize “Zionists,” but a switch is flipped in their minds when it comes to extending any criticism to Jews themselves, or even to recognizing Jews as a coherent interest group.

Hudson is actually pretty brave. He was receiving death threats when he was an economic advisor to Dennis Kucinich, during a presidential run in 2004/2008.

But yes, all Americans are subject to intense propaganda from birth, especially about the sanctified nature of the Jew. I’m American, I know by personal experience. We even had Jews come into our public school, to test us on our narrative control programming- to see if we had any bad-think. Conflating the old testament with the new, is done by attaching old and new testaments in the same book. Old Testamentarianism abrogates the new testament. The new testament is supercession, it supersedes the old. Ergo, the two should not be bound in the same book.

A church that breaks the two books apart will be a step forward in moving the Overton window away from the Jewish grip on American mind space.

I always place 1650 as a big bang event in history. That is the date which Manessha Ben Israel died, and also when John Winthrop died.

Manessaha was a champion for the Jewish construct of Finance Capitalism and Corporatocracy. Other elements of this Jewish control scheme was debt slavery banks of issue at hypothecation. The first debt spreading banks, the Wessel banks, coupled with corporate towns, and then corporate control (Dutch East Indies), all came together in a giant Jewish skull Fu#ck on humanity.

All of the Jewish methods of Kritarchy, Kakistocracy, Debt Slavery, Propaganda, Xenocracy, and Finance Oligarchy came together in one place at one time. Manessah was especially effective at propaganda using the first printing presses. He also scourged dissenters against the new control scheme, such as Spinoza.

By contrast, John Winthrop invented Industrial Capitalism, and notions of “General Welfare.” The created labor money, bills of credit – issued by treasury. Then they invented the first sector approach to economy.

China uses industrial capitalism, and before them was the Kaiser/Hitler, and before them was the inventors.

Hudson is also wrong, on attributing the physiocrats with industrial capitalism. It is simply not true. A real truth can stand up to assaults.

So, OK – Hudson is wrong on many things. But, lets be sanguine about it, he also is correct on many things, and has a large body of work that is of very high importance. Others, can then parcel out his work, and distill it down to hardened truth, especially in the coming centuries.

The Jews will kill you if you attack them directly. If you have money power, it is a simple matter of deploying your paid-for agents.

It is all about US imperialism, it is not Israel’s fault, and US imperialism has nothing to do either with Israelis, nor Jews living in America.

Hudson has never reduced the conflict to just U.S. imperialism or absolved the Israelis of responsibility. Here’s what he says:

“So, the genocide that you’re seeing today is an explicit policy, and that was a policy of the forefathers, the founders of Israel. The idea of a land without people was a land without Arabs in it, the land without non-Jewish people. That’s really what it meant. They were to be driven out starting even before the official funding of Israel, the first Nakba, the Arab Holocaust. And the two of the Israeli prime ministers were members of the Stern gang of terrorists. The terrorists became the rulers of Israel. They escaped from British jail and they joined to found Israel. So, what you’re seeing today is the final solution to this plan. And the founders of Israel were so obsessed with the Nazis, essentially, they wanted to do to them what they did to us, is how they explained it to people…

For the United States, what they wanted was the oil reserves in the Middle East. And again and again, I heard the phrase, you’re our landed aircraft carrier in Israel. Uzi Arad, the future Mossad head, would be very uncomfortable at this because he wanted Israel to be run by the Israelis. But they realized that for Israel to get by with the money that it needed for its balance of payments, it had to be in a partnership with the United States…

So I think I want to make it clear that this is not simply an Israeli war against Hamas. It’s an American-backed Israeli war. Each of them have their own objectives. Israel’s objective is to have a land without non-Jewish population. And America’s aim is to have Israel acting as the local coordinator, as it has been coordinating the work with ISIS and the ISIS commanders to turn them against targets provided by the United States.

Basically, that’s the duopoly that’s been created.”

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/04/michael-hudson-the-truth-about-the-destruction-of-the-palestinians.html

I have an academic background, an engineering empirical and concrete background, and a lifelong cultural anthropology field observer background. I consume large amounts of information of various subjects regularly and connect information relationally across many disciplines.

I find many intellectuals like Hudson, the Classical This or Than, The This School or That boring, tedious, slippery clutches that create heat but little actual work. I interpret events, trends and broad phenonmena in ways and method that suits the data and info, AND gives it meaning.

What doesn’t work for me are abstractions, nomenclature that is arbitrary, and more abstractions that are derived from previous abstractions. That creates sandcastles without foundations of cause-effect, validation, and relatable events. Better are the uses of analogy, parallels, relations, and intersecting vectors. The very common and useful methods of the Orient.

What determines human generation of ideas that generate actions?
-Power. What will be the advantage and gain for me [singular or plural].
-Freedom from pain and suffering.
-Wealth accumulation
-Authority and respect
-Altruism. The most unreliable to qualify and quantify due to ulterior and inferior motives that frequently are attendant.

Flash! NATO now engaged in piracy of ships in international waters.

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Obviously, the JUSA knows of this and tacitly approves and pretends it is not a part.

“In the Vorld today…..” – Henry Kissajerker….only pain and suffering will deter or alter behavior of countries or power centers. Like a retarded overgrown mesomorph school bully, with all brawn and no brains, only a bloody nose, black eyes, and painful blows will alter behavior. It’s what the JUSA needs TO SAVE IT FROM ITSELF; a very painful, destructive event, that it was warned against but nonetheless ignored or invited. This slap in the fact, cold water ice bath will impress the sheep heads across the Fruited Plain and Nutted Mountains, and Sewer Cities.
“America, America, why did G-d shit on thee?” Because you earned it, and didn’t learn it”

Are you really a former rabbi? Are you now a Christian another believer or an atheist? I was involved with the Israeli ultra-Orthodox Jewish community for 18 years before I was baptized by Methodist missionaries from South Africa. I would be honored if you would look at my writings:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-NFIb2HgjKE1bJGuv2zRQF0z2fyEVGe1?usp=drive_link
Mevashir613@gmail.com

Maybe you read the story about organized banking in David Graebers “Debt: The first 5000 years”. If not, you might want to pick the book up. Strongly recommended.

You intransigent serbian subhuman …

You sound like one deeply disturbed Croat.

What happened? What ticked you off? Did you find any Orthodox Christian icons together with a baptismal certificate of your great granddad in the attic, showing that he was an Orthodox Christian Serb prior to his forced conversion to Catholicism?

BTW, will you be attending coming Croatian Nazi singer Thomson rock concert in Contemporary Nazi Croatia (ethnically cleansed, <5% non-Croats)? Have you reserved your seat considering that 500,000 tickets have already been sold?

In case you do not recall, below are the pictures from his 2007 concert. His lyrics openly praise mass murder of Orthodox Christian Serbs and advocate attack on Serbia!

[1] 2007 – Croatian Nazi salutes, caps and shirts at 2007 concert of the Nazi singer Marko Perković – Thompson celebrating Croatia’s 1995 mass-murder and expulsion of the Orthodox Christian Serbs
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[2] 2022 – Croatian Nazi Dinamo Zagreb fans performing the Nazi salute in the streets of Milan. | Twitter
https://twitter.com/stoolfootball/status/1570092654981009414

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ATFR, it is part of a longer story and should be viewed in a broader context.
In short, it is related to the origin of the Ashkenazim (who made up 92% of the total number of Jews just before ww2). All mainstream hypotheses (Rhineland, Khazar, Punic and others) are wrong and fall precisely on Yiddish. Attempts to explain it only by genetics have been unsuccessful because contradictory conclusions are obtained.

Only the so-called Odyssey’s hypothesis provides explanations without logical holes. It includes the so-called Penelope Paradox and the so-called Telemach’s thesis.

PP, unlike all other hypotheses, explains how the number of Ashkenazim in Europe increased by over 200 times over the course of 5-600 years (which is, by other hypotheses, considered a demographic boom, but which is allegedly natural), while the population growth of Europe was only 7 times, although there were families with many children everywhere.

The Telemach’s thesis, on the other hand, claims that Yiddish is older than the German language, so impossible that Yiddish is one of the German dialects.

How (and when) else could it have spread throughout Eastern Europe (there is the nonsense about language replacement)?
Secondly, what language preceded Yiddish, for which we also have the same nonsense about another language replacement, but even the most aggressive advocates of the Khazar theory (your antipode, an indoctrinated goyim,Anti-Talmud Current Rabbito), cannot come up with a single meaningful half-sentence.

We will politely wait for Ron to correct the errors in his Punic theory before we approach the author of OH and ask him to present his theory.

The refusal of the orthodox laity to obey the orthodox bishops in adhering to the authority of the pope violates the order of heaven.

You mean an unholy sea of Catholic heretics, schismatics, pederasts and molesters [1][2][3][4][5][6]?

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[1] Cardinal Dolan and Bishop Barres – looking so into each other (Vatican, Nov 15, 2019) – YouTube (3 mins 6 sec)

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[2] The Cardinal Cover-Up: Joseph Sciambra interviews Catholic priest abuse survivor Chris O’Leary | YouTube

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[3] Google Search: Movie Spotlight
https://www.google.com/search?q=(movie%20OR%20film)%20spotlight

Spotlight is a 2015 American biographical drama film based on true events. The film follows The Boston Globe’s Spotlight newspaper investigative journalist unit team, and its investigation into a decades-long coverup of widespread and systemic child s*x abuse by numerous priests of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston.

[4] Sacrificed by Chris O’Leary | Catholic priest abuse survivor
https://anchor.fm/sacrificed

Sacrificed is a survivor’s eye view of the Catholic *** abuse crisis that picks up where SPOTLIGHT left off, answering the question, “And then what happened?” Hosted by survivor Chris O’Leary, Sacrificed explores his efforts to get help from the Archdiocese of St. Louis, the Catholic Church, and the Pope. Efforts that, despite the PA grand jury report and VOS ESTIS, proved fruitless. It’s a story many Catholics won’t want to hear, but must be told. Because, if the Catholic Church can do what it’s done to survivors, what else can it justify doing? Rationalize? To innocent children most of all.

[5] Chris O’Leary Twitter | Catholic priest abuse survivor
https://twitter.com/IvanDOesnot

[6] The Corrupter of Boys: S*d*my, Scandal, and the Medieval Clergy (The Middle Ages Series): Dyan Elliott | ISBN 0812252527 | Amazon Books
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I have an academic background, an engineering empirical and concrete background, and a lifelong cultural anthropology field observer background. I consume large amounts of information of various subjects regularly and connect information relationally across many disciplines.

You are still a midwit, on the sociopathic spectrum… a slightly more intelligent version of Truth Vigilante. The weight of your words is all that matters, and your having to qualify yourself implies low self esteem… you have to build yourself up. Its obvious you were never really successful despite your pronouncements.

I find many intellectuals like Hudson, the Classical This or Than, The This School or That boring, tedious, slippery clutches that create heat but little actual work. I interpret events, trends and broad phenonmena in ways and method that suits the data and info, AND gives it meaning.

Nobody cares that you find intellectuals boring. This is you elevating yourself again, as if you are more than them.

Your only job on these boards is to elevate others, not tear them down with ad-hominems – and certainly not to self-aggrandize.

You are a classic asshole. See book at link below for detecting your type. Don’t worry though, all the comments here at UNZ will be scraped and sorted by an AI, and your personality profile will come up with warnings.

The Ustashe movement was a reaction to serbian oppression of croation identity. It is unfortunate that it remains a cultural force in crotia today, but the serbs set the standard through their constant appeals to the mob. The Ustashe movement is a rival to the Catholic Church, the bishops would chastise priests for placing the Ustashe flag on the altar. The Serbian gang through their intransigence inspire similar movements in the groups they oppress, be it the Ustashe or islam.

a slightly more intelligent version of Truth Vigilante.

If you had said that earlier, I would have run in and (pre-emptively) defended him with my fists without asking any questions, regardless of the fact that he is a bulgarophile (in his environment, it is considered cool to be a moron, fair dinkum) and an anti-talmud current rabbito, who has no idea about the outcome of the ww1, but now, unfortunately, I have to reluctantly agree with you…
By the way, you can learn something about Jung and his view of Nazism-tulipism from PM.

During a tour of Serbian villages in Dalmatia, Italian General Alexandro Luzano had the opportunity to see first-hand how Serbs were suffering from the Ustasha dagger, and he wrote a letter to Benito Mussolini in which he described the atrocities of Pavelić’s “Aryans”.

General Alessandro Luzano writes to Mussolini:

“Dear Duke,

My boundless loyalty to you, I hope, gives me the right to depart from strict military protocol in some respects. That’s why I’m in a hurry to describe an event that I personally attended three weeks ago.

While visiting the counties of Stolac, Čapljina and Ljubinje (between 60 and 130 km north of Dubrovnik) – I learned from our intelligence officers that Pavelić’s Ustaše, the previous day, had committed a crime in a village (Prebilovci), and that, when word got out, they would , the surrounding Serbs to be disturbed again.

I lack words to describe what I found there. In a large school classroom, I found a murdered teacher and 120 of her students! No child was older than 12! Crime is an inappropriate and naive word. It was beyond all madness!

How do you get Serb Martin Luther?

The serbs allied with the italians in the occupied territories in order to undermine the croats. The testimony you have quoted here cannot be corroborated due the destruction of all official records and likely fabrication of evidence by the communist party assisted by the serbian church. This is likely another fantastic projection in the same vein as the Israelis whining about supposed “rapes” committed by Hamas on October 7.

The original surname Ljutić (from – ljut, angry = hot), a great tribe from which Leibniz also descended. True, like all converts (just look at this TruthEnjoyer) he was a great Serbophobe. Ljutici can be seen on every map of Germany from the Middle Ages.

Serbs were also Catherine the Great (on maps – from Zerbst, i.e. Serb), Bismarck, etc. If you know (no one knows!) when the Germans crossed the Rhine River (also a Serbian name) and entered present-day Germany, then everything else is logical (e.g. all the old toponyms in present-day Germany were Serbian, just like the term ‘German’ itself, which no one knows). Berlin was founded and named by Serbs (Germans came 6-700 years later).

The dynastic houses of Hohenzollern and Mecklenburg, Duchies and Kings of Prussia are also of Serbian origin.

All this is the best-kept secret on the unz that causes huge nervousness among the Panzers (aka fake Aryans and fake Goths). Lol.

On the picture is a statue of Niklot in Schwerin who was a prince of the Serbian tribe Bodrići and the ancestor of the House of Mecklenburg (ruled until 1918).

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The Ustashe movement is a rival to the Catholic Church …

More lies and fiction from Nazi Croatia? You should change your alias to LiesEnjoyer.

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According to American WW2 findings and reports, around 1,300 Croatian Catholic priests took direct part in the genocide of the Orthodox Christian Serbs (aka the Vatican’s Holocaust) [1], i.e. in murders, rapes, torture, etc., along with Ustashe. Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslims started the slaughter after Ante Pavelic [2] and his crew came back from Vatican with the blessing from Pope Pius XII (aka Hitler’s Pope).

According to the reports German Nazi officers themselves compiled, the ones stationed in Nazi Croatia during WW2 [2], close to 2 million Serb civilians were exterminated in the most gruesome and bestial ways in 100s of locations including large extermination camps like Jasenovac, which was 5 times the size of Auschwitz.

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[1] The Vatican’s Holocaust (The Genocide of the Serbian People in WW2) by Avro Manhattan. Read it to understand why it was put on Vatican’s Forbidden Books List (Index Librorum Prohibitorum).

• HTML #1: https://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html
• HTML #2: https://chcpublications.net/Vatican_Holocaust_Croatia.html
• PDF: https://chcpublications.net/Vatican_Holocaust_Croatia.pdf
• EPUB: https://chcpublications.net/Vatican_Holocaust_Croatia.epub⬇

[2] WWII – Independent State of Croatia | Nazi Croatia | NDH – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_State_of_Croatia

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His economic knowledge far outstrips anything Hudson has to offer, every point Hudson has made in this article has been expounded upon in depth in Jones’s expansive book “Barren Metal”.

Thanks for that, took me a while to carefully read through it, very well done!

Maybe you can respond to a few questions/observations.

Neither Hudson nor Pound, that I have seen, address the fact that nowadays the ‘normal citizen’ is just as keen on ‘getting some ah dat usury’ as rich creditors. I mean in the form of savings accounts….investing in bonds either directly or via a pension fund of some kind. A sizeable percentage of the middle class citizenry would strongly object to having THEIR interest illegal-ized. So how is usury, in today’s age, an elites only operation?

(Hudson also never talks, in his proposal to deter to ‘rent seeking’, about the ubiquitous middle class investing strategy of ‘rent seeking’ in the form of buying an apt on credit, as an investment strategy, and renting it out to pay the mortgage)

Also, if every demand finds a supply is it not inevitable that the demand for credit will find a supplier who charges interest, even if usury is made illegal? In fact legalizing and codifying interest could be seen as a way of preventing loan sharking types of operations…..

Finally, if human society is based on organized violence, will not organized violence simply take the wealth if it cannot get it by borrowing? Didn’t the kings used to put their creditors in prison when the kings couldn’t pay their debts?

The Catholic Crusaders, mentioned by Hudson, sacked the Roman capital of Constantinople. Unprecedented atrocities, murders and rapes were committed and a huge cultural and artistic treasure was stolen.

The horses of St. Mark were stolen and taken to Milan (pictured below). The Portrait of the Four Tetrarchs, a porphyry sculpture group of four Serbian-Roman emperors dating from around 300 AD. These emperors ruled the entire Roman Empire at that time were also looted (map in the picture).

The sculptural group has been fixed to a corner of the façade of St Mark’s Basilica in Venice, Italy since the Middle Ages. It formed part of the decorations of the Philadelphion in Constantinople, and was removed to Venice in 1204.

The sculpture represents 4 Serbian-Roman tetrarchs. Diocletian was the Serbian emperor who initiated the creation of the tetrarchy and appointed Maximian as his co-augustus. Both had their Caesars – Galerius and Constantius I.

Constantius I was Constantine’s father. Galerius was Diocletian’s son-in-law. Maximian married his elder daughter to Constantius I, (his second wife) and his younger daughter to Constantine himself (also his second wife).

His son was Maxentius, the governor of Rome who drowned in the Tiber River during the attack of Constantine, who, according to tradition, saw a Christian sign in the sky and heard a voice saying ‘By this conquer‘.

Maximian tried to usurp power from Constantine, so Constantine chased him across Europe, caught him in Marseilles, and generously allowed him to commit suicide.

Gallerius was the first to issue the 311 Act of Toleration of Christians and, sensing competition in the young Constantine, had previously provoked him to fight a lion in the arena as a gladiator, which Constantine did and defeated the lion.
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The entire Roman Empire was ruled by 4 Serbian emperors:

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Again, you are making the similarities between jews ands serbs clearer. You are literally quoting a jewish propagandist in order to support your narrative of serbian victimization. The jewish victim narrative is crumbling due to gaza, once it goes under similar scrutiny will be applied to the fantastic lies of the serbs. They both share the same origin in torture and fabrication concocted by serbs, jews, and communists.

The Greeks acted treacherously in regards to the foreign mercenaries they were hosting, it was another typical example of Greek hubris leading to their own downfall. It was minor when compared to the massacre of the Latins conducted two decades earlier. We see the real face of the oriental mob in your endless whining, having rebelled against your bishops you have no other frame of reference than your personal grievances. Your people have ceased to be orthodox due to disobedience to the emperor and the bishops. Nowhere in the canons of the Church does it say that an unruly laity may do whatever it fancies on a whim, it is an oriental heresy.

+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop
June 20, 2024:

The Catholic Church has been slowly but surely taken over, and Bergoglio has been given the task of making it a philanthropic agency, the “church of humanity, of inclusion, of the environment” at the service of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

The resignation of Benedict XVI and the appointment by the St. Gallen Mafia of a successor in line with the diktats of the Agenda 2030 was intended to allow – and has succeeded in allowing – the global coup to take place with the complicity and authoritative support of the Church of Rome. Bergoglio is to the Church what other world leaders are to their nations: traitors, subversives, and final liquidators of traditional society who are certain of impunity.

I repudiate, reject, and condemn the scandals, errors, and heresies of Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who manifests an absolutely tyrannical management of power, exercised against the purpose that legitimizes Authority in the Church: an authority that is vicarious of that of Christ, and as such must obey Him alone. This separation of the Papacy from its legitimizing principle, which is Christ the High Priest, transforms the ministerium into a self-referential tyranny.

Honestly, it is not surprising that an uppity serb would quote the fake traditionalist Vigano, one among many charlatans and crypto-protestants who run cover for the jews. The serb is inextricably drawn to the conceited pretensions of dishonest moral mediocrities, no wonder they so often ally with jews and fake conservatives. Whether it is the fabricated holocaust/serbian victim narrative or the currently fraudulent crypto-jewish “traditionalist” movement, they are all based on masturbatory fantasies that detract from moral fault, like your “theosis”.

Who were the Jesuits to whom the Pope Francis belonged?

They are one of the notorious papal monastic orders founded by the Spaniard Ignacio Loyola in the sixteenth century, with the motto, “Ad maiorem Dei gloriam” (“For the greater glory of God”). The main goal of the work was the restoration of Roman Catholicism, threatened by the Protestant Reformation. For this purpose, Loyola set absolute obedience to the Pope and the spirit of papism as the basic principle of the order (although, in fact, the order had a great influence on the popes and was a kind of “church within a church”). A Jesuit, by order of higher authorities, could be sent anywhere and at any time to preach; he, as Loyola claims, had to consider that white is black, and vice versa, to recognize the authority of a wordless animal over himself, if God “appointed” him as an elder.

The Jesuits spread very quickly throughout Western Europe. By establishing many secondary and higher schools, they greatly influenced the development of the European intelligentsia; trying to dominate people’s consciences through their confessions, they managed to gain sympathy in a short time. Also, they were allowed to lie and do other similar things, which should serve “for the greater glory of God”. Since they proved to be unscrupulous in the realization of their intentions and characterless in their supposed pleasing to God, the saying “the end justifies the means” was attributed to them, and to tell someone that they were a “Jesuit” meant to tell them that they were hypocrites and scoundrels, masked by the face of humanity.

The Jesuits got involved in the work of the Inquisition, and with fire and sword they tried to spread papism in North and South America, among the local Indian population who threatened them. The Pope gave them the right to sell indulgences (forgiveness of sins), which they used abundantly, so people who helped materially were given the order of forgiveness of all sins twice – once during life and once upon death.

The Jesuits are a militant organization within the Catholic “Church”, organized like an army with ranks. The head of the Order is the General and he is actually the Black Pope, the real ruler of the Vatican. The first General and founder of the Order is the Spanish priest Ignacio Loyola, who in 1534, during the reign of Pope Paul III, believed that the “church” had to fight against heresy (the growing number of supporters of Protestantism) with covert and violent methods.

The famous “Ilumbrados” of the Jesuits was also the infamous Francis Borgia. Although many still believe today that they are only a part of the Roman Catholic Church with their specific teaching, their historical role is much darker and unknown to many people. Loyola is also the founder of the first Illuminati (Ilumbrados).

“Well after them came another reform that wanted to prevent an aristocracy from taking over the Catholic Church and making it a family business. They did not want to let the clergy and popes be married, because if they marry, they’re going to have kids, and if they have kids, they’re going to make them the Pope.”

This is surprisingly ahistorical anti Catholic polemics

Celibacy is of Apostolic Origins and any reliable historian should know that in the fourth century ( I’m just going by memory) about AD 344. Pope Siricius issued his decretals demanding all priests return to The Apostolic praxis of celibacy for unmarried priests and continence for married men who received Holy Orders

Late occult author Tracy R. Twyman was very immersed in this subject: The Templars as being the origins of the Financial Power of today and the banking system.

In fact, she delves into the source of this power and the Masons metaphysically, as she is relating today’s world order to what Baphomet had initiated (whom she was in communication with through out her life.)

This had cost the author her sanity; a Faustian deal she had with the ‘Devil’ for the information that no other was able to tap into and its origins.

https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/usury-faq-or-money-on-the-pill/

Mr Hudson makes far too many mistakes when it comes to usury

Orthodox England – King Edward died on January 5, 1066. One year and one day after his death, on January 6, 1067, the Roman Catholic William the Conqueror was crowned king of England in Westminster Abbey.

Then began a terrible campaign of pillage and bloodshed by the Conqueror against the English people, which culminated in the pseudo-council of Winchester in 1070, when papal legates deposed the Orthodox Archbishop Stigand, who had refused to crown William, and placed the Roman Catholic Lanfranc in his place.

On October 15, 1072, the last English Orthodox bishop, Ethelric of Durham, after anathematizing the Pope, died in prison at Westminster, and the grace of the priesthood left the English land, in accordance with King Edward’s prophecy. This period was remembered as terror and robbery against England’s population.

You raised four strong questions, each worth unpacking. Here’s how Pound would see them:

1. Isn’t the average person also benefiting from usury now, not just the rich?

You point out that regular people have savings accounts and investments that earn interest. If that’s usury, then you’d be right: it’s not just an elite issue. Many middle-class folks would lose something if interest were abolished.

Pound’s Answer: Yes, regular people do benefit from interest, but only a little. The problem is, the system itself is built around making the big winners those who control capital: banks, financiers, landlords, but not those who work or produce. Even if small investors get crumbs, the whole system drains value from work and channels it to ownership. That’s what Pound called “usury”: taking profit without creating value.

2. …

Serb you have as much intellectual and moral integrity as the Israelis in their genocide of Gaza. Your pseudo-historical screeds hold as much water as Ashkenazi jews claiming to share the same heritage as the semitic peoples of Palestine today. You are not even orthodox, you practice the malformed religion of Slavism, the unruly slavic ethnicities of the balkans do not share common standards or values. Truth is dictated by mob rule, in this regard you are similar to the perfidious jews and their talmud. There is no concept of truth in your ethnic club, only shifting values that change according to convenience.

By the way, you can learn something about Jung and his view of Nazism-tulipism from PM.

I highly doubt Poop-on has anything to offer me on Nazi economy, my being an American Nazi. Being an American Nazi is in alignment with the founding fathers, which shows how far we Americans have been jewed and have fallen.

Also, poop on being an ass-hole automatically disqualifies his inputs. No team of any sort: scientific, production, intellectual, can withstand even one ass-hole. You have to ruthlessly purge them. Isolation and ejection of ass-holes is the major thesis of the book I posted earlier, and is a bible all managers should follow. (If you are a manager and don’t follow the ass-hole rules, then shame on you.)

Ron Unz does not understand the ass-hole rules, but then he is a pure free-speech absolutist.

With regards to the Slavs, it was ridiculous that Hitler turned east toward conquest. It would have been beyond easy to lift them up economically, and join them into common prosperity. Clifford Hughes Douglas even wrote Hitler begging him to listen and learn social credit theory. Also, where was Schacht, Hitler’s advisor? Schacht was one of those timid people, who go along to get along.

The Danube valley might actually finally become a viable economic zone.

Watch below video, and you will find out that there is little daylight between me and the guest speaker. See- this is how you lift people up rather than tearing them down. You have to actually understand how the world really works, and it is finance capital that rules the world. It rules through debt instrument creation.

I’ve spent over a million words here at UNZ beating that theme, and I’m the one who is correct, which is slowly becoming more acknowledged by “intellectuals.” The video below is proof that there is a dawning awareness.

In the business world, I always ruthlessly ejected the ass-holes, a pre-requisite for success. There is nothing an ass-hole can offer, they have to be purged.

Video Link

Late occult author Tracy R. Twyman was very immersed in this subject: The Templars as being the origins of the Financial Power of today and the banking system.

It wasn’t the Templars. It wasn’t the Venetians.

It was the Jews.

You can draw a Venn diagram, and put all the Jewish modes of control into it. There is a specific time and place it was created. Amsterdam around 1650, roughly two hundred years after the Jew were expelled from Spain is when it happened. The inside of your Venn diagram has to include corporatocracy, and banks of issue at hypothecation. Both of these elements must be present for modern Jew money power to predominate.

In 1492, the Jews were already money-powered with thousands of ton’s of gold in hand, due to usury on the trade routes. People that posit Templar or Venetian theory, do not understand money-power, or how debt instruments work to create a permanent creditor over debtor relationship for civilization. No longer is it a hierarchy of god/man/woman/child. Now it is creditor over debtor, with the creditors positing themselves as god’s special creatures. They are only justifying their usury takings as ass-hole predators.

The Venetians actually had a non-usurious system (for awhile)

Jew actions after expulsion:

Step 1: Get free-dumb of religion. That took about 70 years.
Step 2: Take control over corporate towns, by putting the towns people into debts. You already have gold, so you can issue gold debts.
Step 3: Agitate for war with Spain, because you are still butt-hurting from being expelled.
Step 4: Engage the now debt slave Dutch into the 80 years war.
Step 5: Use your gold as the basis for “banks of issue at hypothecation,” the Wessel banks.
Step 6: Convert the finance markets for sordid gain taking, with new inventions such as gets/puts and forward contracts. This works because we Jews already have a pirate network located in entrepot cities ringing the Mediterranean and overland in the middle east. We are international people, residing in these cities.
Step 7: Deploy at least 700 Sephardic Jews, and even if they are unlicensed, be sure and convert the finance markets, such that debt instrument we create, can flow into the markets. This way we can make the Dutch people into commodities to be bought and sold.
Step 8: Now that we are the new rulers, create the Dutch East Indies corporation, so that we can go back to our ancestral ways of arbitraging gold and silver exchange rates. Usury is what fuels our tribe.
Step 9: Work with our finance equivalents in England, the son’s of Jews left behind after King Edward kicked us out. We want to join with England, another maritime power.

It wasn’t a Venician or a Templar who was inserted as a King into England. William of Orange was very obviously NOT DUTCH, but was Sephardic Jew in physiognomy. The conceit was that protestants needed protection.

Oh wait! I forgot to add that Manessah Ben Israel fomented Protestantism (old testamentarianism) via his printing of Athias Bibles in English, while also trying to get English kings hooked on gold-debts.

All you need to know, to purge stupid theories like Venician Black Nobility, or Templars “ruling” is to notice William of Orange being a Jew. Why would a non English person be a king, a person who cannot even speak English. You also have to notice that the BOE was the first debt spreading bank to control a country. Then you have to notice the crime of burning the Talley Sticks, the former sovereign money (Kings money) of England – they had to burn the evidence. The Dutch were usurped, and then the English. Both of these people groups became debt slaves, and commodities to be bought and sold in finance markets.

It was the Jews, and their system of debt slavery was modified over thousands of years. The modern western finance capitalist debt slavery system was perfected in Amsterdam, in the 200 years after Spanish expulsion.

When (during Rome) Trajan’s armies went north into Parthia, the Jews went berserk, killing thousands of Greeks. Trajan had accidentally interdicted the routes, the Jews real source of power and usury.

I also didn’t include the creation of parliamentary democracy, with an upper house of lords (the debt instrument holders), who have the whip hand over the lower house permanent debtors. This is why Jews love democracy; this form of whip hand democracy is their favorite way of hiding out.

The Jewish finance class are not stupid by any stretch of the imagination. Owning propaganda organs ,makes sure that normie goyim have their heads filled with harmless (to the Jew) narratives. We must keep the goy cows quiescent and munching on grass, so we can extract from them as a parasite.

Once you have identified their control schemes, only then can you und0 them. Know thy enemy.

I am seeing two dinky Ljutici current; one Montenegro and one Croatia. But there was much other information downstream of that. Thank you. There seemed ambiguity on if the Niklot fellow was a pagan.

Mefobills, you deliver the goods. Since you’re a specialist, I’d be curious to get your opinion on the information presented in this article published on the Schiller Institute website arguing that Venetian bankers (Jews I guess although the author doesn’t mention that) crashed the world economy in the 1340’s and caused the black plague.

https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/fid_91-96/954_Gallagher_Venice_rig.html

Very interesting article, germane to Hudson’s arguments.

The only history that matters is economic history. Any other way of trying to connect dots, is like feeling entrails or bones, and then making proclamations. Normies cannot connect dots because they are typically economically illiterate. That includes Ron Unz, but he is getting there. Hudson should know better, when he makes mistakes. But, then nobody is perfect, and he means well. I do draw the line at ass-holes and sociopaths though.

Orthodox England – King Edward died on January 5, 1066. One year and one day after his death, on January 6, 1067, the Roman Catholic William the Conqueror was crowned king of England in Westminster Abbey.

William the Conqueror was funded. All movements, invasions, and operations are funded! Black lives matter was funded, who funded it? The NAACP was funded, who funded it?

The “Norman Conquest” of England in 1066 — financed by jewish loans from Rouen, Normandy — was the first JEWISH conquest of any Western country

The Aiparu/Haibaru/Jew needed silver from the West, to then take the 3X usury gains on their routes. Gold was plentiful in the Indus Valley, and they needed silver to exchange. By 1066, this was already late in history, and the Jew had been working his routes for at least 4,000 years.

https://johndenugent.com/norman-conquest-england-1066-financed-jewish-loans-rouen-normandy-first-jewish-conquest-in-west/

The Normans bring in the Jews

Above all, I can never forget or forgive this about the Normans: that it was they who brought the Jews into England. They shipped them in from Normandy to tax the previously Jew-free English with grinding fees into despair and poverty, all to raise money for countless imperial Norman projects that involved sending Englands hardy Anglo-Saxon peasants overseas into foreign wars to die for their foreign aristocrats.

The Jews were not brought in as slaves by the Normans. Bringing in a foreign “tax collector” people is classic Xenocracy.

The Jewish “Venn diagram” of control that I mention in an above post, includes Xenocracy. To rule over another people group, you need an army of rootless people. The blood and soil people of the land you are invading hate you, so you need your own loyal in-group. The Jews are not just any xenocracy, they have their own in-group parasitic methods honed over thousand of years. Is it likely that the “Norman Vikings” were sophisticates that understood Jewish method?

The question you have to ask yourself, was it the Normans who were in charge, or the Jews. Who funded the invasion?

Knowing how Jews string pull, and having “tons of gold” at hand (taken over thousands of years at usury), then who likely funded the Norman invasion.

There is no way of knowing for sure it was the Jews in this case, but intelligent people can draw parallels. The skunk does not change its stripes, especially when the stripes have been working for them for thousands of years.

The Norman invasion is probably the first Jewish funded invasion, to then have a new crime base of operations. The pattern of having Goy front men being the muscle fits.

Jews entered into England in 1066, and Longshanks expelled them in 1290.

200 years is plenty of time for debts to compound, and for putting “house to house.” To have a ruling landed and finance oligarchy.

The Jews were indeed expelled in 1290 by the Norman king Edward I (but Longshanks ” he was six-foot-three “ took action only after decades of public uproar over both their usury and repeated acts of child ritual murder). However, some Jews stayed behind. Judaism was not being racially defined then, and by the simple act of converting, by oath, to Christianity and going to church a few times (AS IN SPAIN UNTIL THE INQUISITION CAME ALONG) the Jew could stay.

The Jews who stayed behind are implicated in later history, when Amsterdam’s Jew’s re-invaded England during the Glorious revolution. This was to plant seeds for their new debt-slavery scheme of finance capitalism.

Today’s English-Jewish cousinhood is a function of blood-lines, and shared greed. The Jews left behind, bred into the English nobility. This is why so many of the English aristocrats have a “horse look,” typical of Semitic/Neanderthal hybrids. Cro-Magnon Aryan “Vikings” have a very different look.

Here is 1500 on, with regard to Venice in a comment I made. They were in deep decline.

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/us-dollar-hegemony-ended-abruptly-last-wednesday/?showcomments#comment-5268978

I will have to think about 1340’s period to answer your question thoughtfully.

LaRouche and Hudson had a blood feud, which is why Hudson is historically blinded by any territory the schillerinstitue has covered.

I also find LaRouche making mistakes. But, Venetians did become corrupted after the Arsinoe Canal was dredged, when they came into close contact with the Jew. Venice did engage in sending silver down the Canal to join in with the Jewish arbitrage on Gold/Silver.

I will have to comprehend the exact dates and times to verify the accuracy of schiller people.

Generally, if they don’t have the stones to look at the Jew, then they are compromised. They have engaged in mental deception.

Lyndon LaRouche and Webster Tarpley have a trove of fascinating facts and sensational speculations and it’s fun to debate which is which. Venetians Phoenecians Canaanites Babylonians Jews. It’s all great.

If you use any of it just don’t ever let out where exactly you got it from. : )

My eyes generally glaze over when Mr. Odd You See! posts, glance, skim, move on. That is not to say that laughing at the mentally ill is morally wrong, no no. In fact, did you know that our term “mentally ill” is a Serbian word?

If you can imagine someone (we call them “clients” these days not “patients”) sitting in the all-purpose room of a locked facility getting its ration of internet time, now you’re well equipped to read his rantings.

this places him in the camp of the neocons, many of which were trotskyists

Would this explain why he hangs out with that odious commie Richard Wolff?

Up until the 13’th century, only the Moslems and Byzantium struck gold coins in sufficient numbers, nearly identical in size and grain weight. Moslem coins have been found in hoards throughout Europe, England and Scandinavia. Why do you think that is? There was a connection between the east and the west.

Moslem conquest of Spain, allowed them to have slave labor to work the gold and silver mines. Spain was also the conduit for the movement of Jews from Asia to Europe. Jews are the link between Islam and Christendom. Byzantine gold coins were the interdiction of gold flowing from the east, in connivance with the Haibaru/Jew on the east side. But silver was desirable as it did not “wear” out. Silver was desirable for everyday commerce. Moslem gold coins into the west were a different route, with Jews as intermediaries. It went through Venice.

The overland east – west route going across the Bosporous (where Constantinople is) was end-arounded by Venice. Is end-arounded a word? The former east-west mechanism was bypassed so Venice could take the mechanism for itself. You could even say the schism in the Christian church is related to this event.

In 639 AD, the Arsinoe canal (where Suez is now) was silted over. The Moslem ruler Amri cleared it, so it was open in the early 8’th century. Venice went against Byzantium’s orders against trading with Moslems. Venice made huge profits of hundreds of a percent per shipment. Again, the 3X ratio of silver to gold gains are hard for malformed usury men to not engage in. They want the easy life. Usury is seductive. Gotta get that gold!

Venice had tapped into the east/west Haibaru secret mechanism. This is a main spring of history. Monetary history is what matters. The Byzantine empire was keeping a lid on the gold/silver ratio on the West side of the Bosporous (Christendom), by controlling their coin, the Bezant.

The ratio was 7:1 gold/silver in the early 8’th century. Whoever could dominate this secret arbitrage mechanism became the ruler. This is where the Venetian conspiracy comes from, and it was a secret conspiracy to hide their outsized gains. But it has nothing to do with a second stream of subversion that was Jewish, and came through Amsterdam. Jewish subversion was through Spain, to the Lowlands to England, then onward to America. Venice was kaput by 1500 AD.

The Canal’s total route was described by Alexander Del Mar. The Ptolemaic (and Roman) route was by Alexandria, the Nile, the Canal, Berenice, Saiba and Muscat. Del Mar recounts the route from a document “periplus Maris Erthraei” of Arrian.

From the east came spices, especially pepper; silks, gold weaved cloth, perfumes, drugs, and gold. Especially gold.

To the east (via Venetian shipping) went slaves, timber, iron, and silver. Especially Silver!
The slaves included white slaves, and Jews were the intermediary – as Jews have always been the “merchant class” engaging in money laundering and slavery. Aiparu means minor merchant in Egyptian.

So, yes, the Venetians became corrupted to the siren song of easy profits and usury. The misidentification of metal as money has long been a problem for humans. There might be something to epigenetics, where gold worship is coded in the DNA. Gold worship is almost psychopathic.

If you scan the LaRouche Shiller document for Jew, not one word, not one peep. The closest you get is this:

On top of all this, from the 1320’s on, there was a “massive flight of silver oltremare [“over the sea,” that is, to Venice’s maritime empire in the Middle East and Byzantium—PBG], which upset the equilibrium of Europe in the mid-Fourteenth century.” Venetian exports of silver from Europe from 1325-50 equalled “perhaps 25 percent of all the silver being mined in Europe at that time.” Standard silver coin had been the stable currency of the Holy Roman Empire in Europe, and of England, since Charlemagne’s time. This massive export from Venice to the East “created chronic balance of payments problems as far away as England and Flanders,” and severe problems in making payments in trade. France “was emptied of silver coinage.” King Phillip’s mintmaster estimated that 100 tons of silver had been exported “to the land of the Saracens” (the Islamic Middle East).

They only mention the land of the Saracens (Moslems). Nothing about Jewish intermediaries, nothing about the Haibaru transiting the routes for thousands of years.

You don’t have to be Jewish to have a Jewish usury spirit, as Venice going bad proves. But, if you build a complex edifice designed to parasitize others, then I draw the line. Man cannot evolve to his higher self if greedy parasites are continually lying, invading, milking, and weakening their host nations. Many of these host nations were on an upward path, including NSDAP Germany. As an American, I can say we also became a host.

China is on an upward trajectory; they still have to learn to erase debts though. Germany was destroyed in world war. Russia was almost destroyed in the 90’s.

To avoid becoming a host to parasites, requires a proper authoritarian “king.” It most especially requires making gold/silver illegal as internal national money.

The article on Venice notices that they did not have a proper power vertical, so they were undermined from within.

If you want to know who the real boss is, look at the one you can’t criticise…
Catholic church…?

If you think interest is usury, then your are wrong headed. You can have a positive interest economy, but it takes certain rules/laws.

Also, if every demand finds a supply is it not inevitable that the demand for credit will find a supplier who charges interest, even if usury is made illegal? In fact legalizing and codifying interest could be seen as a way of preventing loan sharking types of operations…..

Usury is a power relation. Interest is not usury. Interest that cannot be paid naturally, is usury.

The only credit issued is to be sovereign credit. All money is circulation is the “kings” money anyway.

There was no problem during the Talley Stick Era, after Longshanks kicked out the Jews.

There are two ways to deal with interest. In the tally stick era, they had yearly fairs. When you left the fair, credit and debts had to be balanced. That includes interest on loans. Heads were knocked together, so that creditors and debtors would come to agreement.

I notice that Hudson has not noticed this period of history, which is arguably superior to the Christian Jubilee of 50 years. This was yearly!

The other way, was comprehended by John Winthrop, and written down by Cotton Mather. You just issue debt free notes, so that interest on private debts can be paid. These were called Massachusets Bills.

Yes- the American Colonials were far more advanced monetarily than we are today.

Finally, if human society is based on organized violence, will not organized violence simply take the wealth if it cannot get it by borrowing? Didn’t the kings used to put their creditors in prison when the kings couldn’t pay their debts?

The kings were dumb-asses and thought that gold and silver were money. The wood talley stick era lasted longer than USA has been around. There were no gold debt problems with talley sticks. The English people of the upper middle age era were practically in paradise.

If kings borrowed gold/silver – especially from the Jew, that was so they could engage in war. In foreign lands if your soldiers wanted some trim from the foreign ladies, you needed silver. Or if you wanted anything “over there”, only international money would do.

The way you pay your soldiers is with “goods” over there, so they can trade for local currency. Then they can use that local currency for trim, or whatever. The ladies liked American hosiery just fine during WW2. Or cigarettes. The soldiers only need SOME foreign currency, not their entire paycheck in gold/silver. Dumbassery is a real problem. Most people are normies, with average IQ’s.

Civilization requires selecting and training an elite, who also have empathy. These elites would immediately recognize the need to eject the Jew, or limit them as has been done in Iran.

Converting to gold/silver in the second Punic war, was Rome’s downfall. You cannot have gold interest on gold money debts. You would have to flog the population to mine gold in an exponential way, as interest is an exponential function. That invites punishment and slavery.

I mean in the form of savings accounts….investing in bonds either directly or via a pension fund of some kind.

Interest is not usury. Quoting Pound is a problem, he was a poet not an economic historian like me. The Canadian credit economy after 1938, had no problems with people earning interest on their savings. Public debts were flat from 38 to 77. I’ve explained it in my comment history somewhere. Basically they had a state bank, and limited house loans to trusts – something like a savings a loan.

Scahcts Mefobills fluxed interest OUTWARD from the Reichsbank to the bill holder. Germany had a positive interest economy with no issues.

It is the Jew debt finance capital system that is the problem, where there are no “Massachusets Bills” debt free available to pay down debts.

If you scan the LaRouche Shiller document for Jew, not one word, not one peep.

When David Icke says Reptilian, that is code for Jew. When LaRouch writes Venetian, that is code for Jew. These guys like (liked) to travel around without looking behind them for an assassin once every minute.

That was the time when the violent seizure of Serbian territories (the territory of present-day Germany) began under the banner of Christianising the Baltics, during which there were many wars and millions of victims, which the mainstream is mostly silent about and which continues to this day (drang nach osten).

You might be interested in a few definitions with the most basic information about the Serbs who were the natives of present-day Germany before the Germans came there. There is also a map showing the Limes Sorabicus (Serbian border) established by Charlemagne, although Serbs lived on both sides.
If you zoom in, you can see the names of many Serbian tribes, including the Ljutici.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Mecklenburg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbian_March
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Hohenzollern

The jewish victim narrative …

Didn’t Contemporary Nazi Croatia apologize to the Jewish people [1][2]? The president (Stipe Mesić) himself? You see, Croats cannot help themselves – mendacity is your middle name!

Of course, you only apologized to the Jewish people because you had to, just like Germany, and not because you were sorry. When there is no punishment for not apologizing for your crimes, like genocide against Orthodox Christian Serbs, aka Vatican’s Holocaust, there is no apology, just like Germany did not apologize to the Serbian people either.

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Below are some Croatian soldiers “fighting” Serbian civilians “hegemony” [3][4]!

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[1] Croation President Asks [Jews for] Forgiveness | Israel National News
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/12175

[2] Croatian President Brings Israel Olive Branch – Los Angeles Times
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-nov-01-mn-64189-story.html

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[3] WW2: Croat soldier with slaughtered Orthodox Christian Serb civilians
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[4] WW2: The Ustashe / Croats, too extreme even for the Nazis
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Bravo!

If one conceives a Christ, it follows that to be a Christian one must follow His injunctions. Striving to be like Him does not make one a Christian. Being like Him makes one a Christian.

Purchasing say, skis and all of the related equipment does not make one a skier.

Claiming love for another is not the same as feeling loved.

Strumming a guitar does not make one a musician.

Graduating from a university does not mean one is educated.

You are only confirming what I have already said about the personal and organizational union of the Vatican and the Zionists that has lasted since William the Conqueror to this day. Even Catholics themselves say today that the Vatican has been taken over by the Zionists.

In England it is even more so, there has been a genetic synergy between the English and the Jews, not only business. Longshanks also waged war against the Celts (we remember – Braveheart) when he banned their language, names and sports. Until then, the Celts had the same names as the Serbs (Harvard linguist Joshua Whatmough collected and published these names) and some of them have survived to this day despite the ban.

This is why so many of the English aristocrats have a “horse look,” typical of Semitic/Neanderthal hybrids. Cro-Magnon Aryan “Vikings” have a very different look.

By the way, the Vikings were mostly Slavs and it would be interesting to say who the Aryans were.

Your opinion about Hitler’s intention to conquer Slavic lands instead of improving them economically is a bit naive, because, as an American you have no sense of history.

And you should know (although the mainstream doesn’t write about it) that indigenous Serbs lived in present-day Germany and that Germans only came there during the time of Charlemagne. I already said in another comment that it was Serbian (aka Slavic) territory and that drang nach osten lasted for more than 1000 years. That is a constant of European (German) politics and you are right that it is basically the economy.

Germany before ww2 did not have oil, gas, minerals, fertile land and it is logical to expect that they would try to steal them from someone. That was the main cause of ww2 and not this imbecile discussion about the alleged German preemptive attack on the Soviet Union, which is advocated by your buddy-mate, anti-talmud current rabbito, all dumbass to dumbass panzers and even Ron.

I even offered a simplified (economic!) formula:

Lebensraum?
If fake -> the German attack on the USSR was preemptive
If real -> the German attack was an aggression to seize Slavic land and destroy and enslave Slavs.

The political class make the same concessions to Mammon that they do everywhere else, what is telling though is your incessant desire to be like the perfidious jews. All of your screeching is reminiscent to the jews moaning about the six million who died in non-existent gas chambers, behind wooden doors, while applying impossible physics to burn the bodies. The jews are proven liars, the sand are shifting underneath their feet as they commit their genocide of Gaza that you Serbs provide weapons for. Once the world is inoculated from jewish kvetching the balkans too will be freed from the wannabe kikes, the perfidious Serbs.

I know something about Jews. The exact same thing happened in England after WW I. My paternal Grandfather died from being gassed and blown off his horse. He died in England after the War. My Grandfather owned properties and some were mortgaged. He was a Jew. As soon as he died the ‘lenders’ foreclosed on his properties claiming my Grandmother was not equipped to manage them.

The lenders were Jews. My Grandmother then refused to accept or be associated with Jews henceforth. I never cognized my dad’s appearance or sensibilities were anything especially different than my friends fathers. He was not the least bit religious but he was wise.

Oddly though I was sympathetic to Jewish claims although my dad was not. I was born in 1948 and as a boy I was subjected to the same increasingly amplified claims as anyone watching TV or reading the NY Times was. I was an avid reader from childhood — especially history. Gradually this interest began to include the history of money. And by the time I was in my early 20’s, philosophy, and economics as well.

Ever so gradually I began to find that certain facts I’d come across did not jive with conventional wisdom. In fact, they were often so discordant I took a long time to take my conclusions as more than likely the case than not. Frankly Gaza was the last straw for me! There is something wrong with the Jew. No not every Jew. But I am surprised that we in the so called West for the most part are silent!

Why? Every last thing I thought we in the West stood for — we have repudiated! We have descended into abject savagery.

Thanks very much for taking the time to reply. The information you provide is valuable. The article does include the following line, which I take to be a heartening dog whistle at the very least:

“As Frederick Lane demonstrates, this was the dominant trade of Venice by no later than 1310. Like today’s “mega-speculators” in currencies and derivatives, such as the Morgan- and Rothschild-backed George Soros and Marc Rich, the Venetian banks and bullion-dealers were backed by large pools of capital and protection.”

Perhaps like Hudson he simply does not wish to touch the third rail.

Ron Unz, perhaps you could give Mefobills a column here, as his comments are more interesting than most of the published content.

As a Nazi, I acknowledge the German people still had the starvation in their minds. They even shipped Ukraianian black soil back to Germany by rail.

Germany had farm productivity go up by releasing debts. Many of the farms had transferred in a debt cycle to the international creditor during the hyperinflation. To fix the farm/food problem also included inducing college kids and others to help with the harvest.

England mined the harbors to increase starvation, since Germany was a food deficit country.

Hitler was also army/land power focused.

And if that is not enough, Stalin said “I read your book, Hitler.”

When St. Paul said the law was our schoolmaster to point us to Christ, well that was certainly true of him. Here was a trained man in the law who could quote off from memory all 650 laws without breaking a sweat. Where will find anone in the christian world who could say the same thing? lol try this, go ask any Christian you come across to quote off the Ten Commandments and see what happens? You’ll get the Pelagian response! Most have become anitnomian which St. Paul would have looked upon as horrifying. How pray tell does one know what holiness and righteousness is if one hasn’t been trained in law to begin with?

What a predicament then St. Paul must have found himself when bringing the message of the Gospel of Christ to the Gentile heathen races when our schoolmasters were what? Idol worshippers to begin with and then filled with every kind of uncleanness and sin thereafter. That unfortunately is what separates the Gentile world from the Jewish world with Christ ending up being for the Jews a stumbling block and for the Gentile world/races a fool. Gentiles are after knowledge and wisdom not in some resurrected from dead crucified man.

And money St. Paul had to support himself with ten making and living mostly homeless? No wonder we find him telling the early church that the least they could do was support his efforts at evangelism. Today evangelists well some of them anyway have multi-million dollars planes to fly them around the country? I had to laugh this morning at the flak that trump is getting for the gift of a 747 which had me thinking about the crazy Christian Zionists who were given gifts of planes from Israel which they got from America and paid nothing for? lol Does it get any more crazier?

It never ceases to dumbfound me and Christ was right, the few there be that will make it into heaven.

Christianity? How the mighty have fallen!!

They both will fall into the ditch? Yes, indeed too many falling into the ditch these days! Matthew 15:14

“As Frederick Lane demonstrates, this was the dominant trade of Venice by no later than 1310.

Think in terms of pivots.

The Templars were a pivot, with a banking network. My view is that people make a mountain out of this molehill.

There was a big pivot with sea-power, meaning Venice, having the ability to arbitrage and drain silver out of the West.

There was another pivot, with Vasco de Gama, discovering the Southern route. So, the “drain” of silver to the east, undermined further the overland system that had been dominated by the Haibaru.

When the Jews were kicked out of Spain in 1492, it was a crises for them, They lost a host country, and very shortly afterward Vasco De-Gama discovered the Southern Route. The new “maritime highway” fell to the Portuguese. This is why Portugal got so rich so quick. The Portuguese built a “string of pearls” ports to protect their new-found wealth route/mechanism.

The Portuguese unloaded in Antwerp first, and later in Amsterdam. In the meantime, the Jew was infiltrating Portugal and Holland. The Jew was in crises, and needed to attach themselves to shipping powers.

This attachment mechanism was already perfected in previous centuries, even before Rome. The fall of Greece and Solon’s reforms, were due to silver debts to the “Aiparu.”

Constantine building a fortified city and interdicting the routes is a pivot. Venice doing a “maritime” end-run is a pivot. Portugal doing another maritime end-run is a pivot, which also sealed Venice’s fate.

The Jews fighting back after 1492, attaching themselves to Holland and next England, was a pivot. The latest English pivot included many new methods of subversion, leading to today’s grid control system.

Basically, the new Jew system was genius, a full spectrum debt slavery system. Rule from behind with finance capital.

The Venicians and Templars were mere pikers, and they did not have full spectrum conquest as part of their motivation, just greed. They were not intending to parasitize and host other civilizations.

Any discussion about the Templars or Venetians, or even the Christian church being the progenitor for todays finance capital debt slavery system is a diversion.

The Jew (or Jewish finance class if you prefer) is guilty of pre-meditated murder of higher civilizations.

Bullshit.

Since you know what you are looking at you might not realize that those of us who do not know what we are looking at might find the design elements of that map are ghastly. If anybody knows where the same information is found on a decent map that would be handy.

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Michael Hudson is a truth seeker, who has a high accuracy rate. However the origins of international banking that led to today’s clown-world, were laid down by 1650.

AC generally means after Christ, and BC means before Christ. One could say, Christ was a big bang event. Before and After.

1650 is another AC/BC. After corporatocracy and before corporatocracy. A BIG BANG. A pivot point. Historians are blinkered when it comes to this period, this big bang.

Both Menasseh and Winthrop died around 1650, as God has a sense of humor. Menasseh Ben Israel is the one human most responsible for today’s origins of international banking AND corporatocracy. Both together, add up to a new system for man.

This would be banks of issue at hypothecation, meaning debt slavery. Debt instrument creation now happened inside of stock-owned corporation, along with bank credit (as the banker’s liability), and this credit then flowed outward into the economy. Effectively it was corporate debt money, not kings money.

THINK VERY CAREFULLY, THIS WAS A CRIME AGAINST NATURE EQUAL TO THE JESUS EVENT.

Jesus mission was to reverse debt polarization of the day, as his stated mission was to re-start the jubilee. Jesus rebalanced and re-established the logos order.

Menasseh’s mission instead, was to install a permanent debt polarization system of finance capitalism.

Think very carefully again. Menasseh system overcame man’s previous Logos condition, a condition for man, since the beginning of time.

The logos hierarchy for man is: God/Man/Woman/Child. God is over man, and man is over woman, and woman is over child. (Women no longer over boys after age 12).

For civilization it is similar: God/God’s agent on Earth/Nation The national people group are a family, and have a god king father that is their representative on earth; and this god-king rules by divine right of kings.

The JEW, especially Menasseh, undid the logos hierarchy that goes all the way back into pre-history.

The new Jewish hierarchy is Credit/Debt. Permanent creditor over debtors. A creditor class has ejected the God-King. The King was ejected from Temple and Throne, and a creditor usurper installed himself.

This is a grotesque crime against the entire corpus of human history, to invert the natural order, to then take in-group gains as a parasite. I cannot emphasize it enough, this was a big bang event. Clown world was created in 1650.

In 1650, there was before the world, two systems. Winthrop’s was not banks of issue at debt, it was “kings money” basically sovereign money. Any debt association was related to the ability of the Puritans to pay it back, hence public debts. It was an equity system, where the equity of labor was constantly improved via improved industry and commons. Any public debt was the kings debt was equity was the ability of the commonwealth to lift themselves up.

The Winthrop system and the Talley-Stick system are not so different. The Talley sticks were basically public debts owed to the King for Corvee labor. The King then directs his sovereign credit as god’s agent on earth, to then lift up all boats – for the commonweal.

Menasseh was NOT INTERESTED in the commonweal, but only his Jewish ingroup. This parallel to the Jesus event should not be overlooked.

That is why the “origins of international banking” needs to have a date fixed permanently in people’s memory space, and the date I pick is 1650, when the two different systems were presented to man, in a big bang event.

Now that you know the big bang event AC, or after corporatocracy (especially banks as corporations) came into being, and it was Jewish, then you can watch the video. George does an accurate job of modeling the world. If you understand the lead up to 1650, and then understand what is presented in the video. then you are ahead of 99.5% of all people on the planet.

I’m mainly here to point out that Cyril had nothing to do with Hypatia’s death, as O’Neill had to point out in his “History For Atheists” blog. Hudson should know better!
As to Cyril’s thoughts on unz.com’s favourite Semites, such could hardly be worse than the thoughts of his chief rival who was, uh, John Chrysostom.

That video put me to sleep. Those models are great for fitting the data backwards but they can’t tell you anything about the greedy guys you don’t know about now who will do crimes down the road.

Who has a good model of mafia gangs? That is what we would need for the expert soothsaying. When Vladimir Putin arrived into the big time already nobody in New York London Paris Brussels Basel ever heard of him.

Paul was a Pharisee who had never seen Christ. Moreover, he persecuted Christians for 7 years after the crucifixion until he was enlightened on the road to Damascus. Everything we know about the gospels comes from Paul and his selection of existing texts.

There was a movement that wanted to make a radical break with the teachings of Moses, but Paul was in favour of compromise, probably for political reasons, because he wanted as many Judeans as possible to accept Christ as the messiah. However, we can thank Paul for being uncircumcised.

Both, he and Peter travelled to the Helm (Balkans) before going to Rome. In Sirmium (which few people know was declared the main capital of the Roman Empire by Diocletian) the first Christian diocese in the world was founded, just a year after the crucifixion, which almost no one knows either.

Paul performed the first baptisms in the Trebisnica River in caves near Dubrovnik, where he was hiding from Nero, while Peter spent a lot of time in Sirmium (40 km from Belgrade). The Serbs were the first to accept Christianity. In the end, both ended up as Nero’s victims, Peter was hanged in Nero’s garden and later Paul was beheaded.

You have many references to Limes Sorabicus, one of which (wiki) I gave in the comment above (Sorbian March). Incidentally, the Germans later changed the name Serb to Sorb to distinguish the Baltic Serbs from the Balkans Serbs. Another name for them was Wends (e.g. Wendish Crusade, when the Crusaders turned away and instead of the Middle East went to war against much closer Baltic Serbs to seize their land).

At that time, the name Serbs was used for all future Slavs because that term was not yet in use and they all spoke the Serbian language from which the other Slavic languages ​​would later develop. Btw, the German name for the Belgian city of Liège is still Ljutich today.

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What else can be expected from a circumcised albanian goat botherer, just like from that Croatian Ustasha above, who Enjoys sucking (my) Truth while kneeling, and at the same time also repeating (like botherer) a couple sentences like a broken gramophone record.

One historical fact that is almost never talked about is the role played during centuries by the Sephardi family of the Benveniste.
They were given the surname of de la Cavalleria by the knights Templar who protected the family and the family in turn administered the tax system of the Templars. The family made its mark in Catalonia where they produced administrators and intellectuals. The kingdoms of Castilla and Aragon not only tolerate the Sephardim but allowed them to participate in the “cultural and economic life”.
The Benveniste family originated from Narbonne, brought there by the Carolingian Kings (maybe even Charlemagne) from Baghdad (the hub of the so-called Radhanites, the traders of the Silk Road- all Jews) and played for centuries the role of Nasi , leader of the community, considered descendants of King David, and played always the role of tax collectors and financial advisers to Crowns of the Kingdom of Aragon and the County of Barcelona. Some of them became conversos.
A branch which did not convert and had to leave Spain produced the figures of Francisco Mendes and his brother, Diego Mendes, the masterminds behind an influential and globally renowned trading enterprise and bank, with agents across Europe and around the Mediterranean. The House of Mendes and the House of Benveniste likely began as a company centered on trading precious valuables and employing currency arbitrage. With the onset of the Age of Discovery and the Portuguese discovery of a sea route to India, the Mendes brothers became particularly notable spice traders. They also expanded into silver trading, a crucial payment method for Asian traders who supplied the business with spices. , of Dona Gracia Mendez Benveniste (wife of Francesco), of Joseph Nasi Mendez Benveniste (her nephew).
The House of Mendes/Benveniste dealt with King Henry II of France, Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, his sister Mary, Governor of the Low Countries, Popes Paul III and Paul IV, and Suleiman the Magnificent, the Ottoman Sultan. These dealings involved commercial activities, loans, and bribes. It established businesses in Antwerp and Venice.
In 1558, Doña Gracia and her nephew Joseph were granted a long-term lease on the Tiberias region in Galilee (part of Ottoman Syria at the time), from Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, in exchange for guaranteeing a substantial increase in the yearly tax revenues, where she began to rebuild the area’s abandoned towns to make them available to refugees so they could settle there if they wished, one of the earliest attempts at a modern Zionist movement.

Mr. Mefobills, thanks for the response. I read up on the tally sticks, I’d never heard of them before, thanks for the reference, fascinating. Reminds me of the fact that our education system seems to intentionally ignore basic monetary/financial history. As you have mentioned, financial history/currency etc is central to human society. Why isn’t it studied from grade school on up?

Elsewhere you mentioned Manessah Ben Israel and the key date of 1650. Could you provide a link concerning him and finance? I looked at wikipedia but found nothing. Perhaps you’ve already written about 1650 and ‘bank of issue of hypothecation’ and ‘corporotacracy’? Any links to your work?

I remember reading that the German army found serbia an impossible terrain to travel through let alone conquer. Its valleys, hills, rivers were mostly impassable.

Oh my goodness! Such a pile of stupendously varied, meretricious and delusive trash, refuse, and unusable toxic compost. Well, let’s start from the top, shall we?

The weight of your words is all that matters, and your having to qualify yourself implies low self esteem… you have to build yourself up. Its obvious[?] you were never really successful despite your pronouncements.

Stating one’s experience [of all types], background, history, achievements, etc. are indications of “low self esteem…”? And further, provide strong indications of low success…?”

Seems capricious and..um…unintelligent. Ipso facto, fatso.

“Nobody cares that you find intellectuals boring. This is you elevating yourself again, as if you are more than them.”

Thomas Sowell, the most important economist of the last 100 years. [Huh? Measured by the results of him almost always – near perfectly – correct in his pronouncements and predictions.] One of his salient and solid maxims is “The more highly educated you are, the more likely you will be blinded by your belief that your specialized knowledge [abstract and very specific… and derivative] is likely to predict and engender validity in another field of knowledge or discipline. This applies to you, Booby My Foo Foo Bills.

Here is the general case and outline in analogy and comparison with other actualities. In your case, all you have transcribed is a very limited, bordered process of a piece of, a portion of the all the subsets of Economics. That consists of the mechanisms, structured, and actions of various instruments of debt, usury, interest, “money”, and transactions and transactions. While is undeniably true that this information of the economic history of the World is valid and useful, its limitations are similar to all histories, in that they cannot be assumed to be automatically reapplied endlessly, because they are synthetic, I..e, created and borne out of human actions and thoughts, which do not automatically repeat organically and intrinsically, like tectonic plate movement, or earth’s orbit track and characteristics, for example.

Which is to say, you fit the characterization of the undergraduate college student, cribbing his professors’ lecture notes. In other words, your comments are standard textbook explanations and frameworks of economic circumstances and the human effects and feedback. You seem to present these details cogently and in readable form. But…this is only one slice of the pizza, one piece of the puzzle, one type of machine in the interdependent Power Plant. Take this tour as analogous to the integration of all these elementals and discrete independent variables that comprise the entire set of what we may term “Reality”, the entire Power Plant. One element, your description of the histories of economies of money generation, intrinsic changes and modifications and the subsequent changes in human society and power dynamics.

Consider the array of medical specialists today. Would an orthopedist of knee and hip replacements work on a spine? Of course not. Than, specialization is shown to be not consistent with knowledge sufficiently to operate, opine, and alter other processes and objects, why would your encapsulated world be applicable to a wider range of same? The true test is an empirical one, a “test bed” trial, to see if the observed performance, inductive data matches the deducted principles, predictions and hypothesis.

Like so many people of dwarfed personal development, due to intrinsic and extrinsic factors, you feel confident telling us that “economics is everything”, controls the human organism – like salinity does oysters in estuaries, and coastal tidewater flats. That would exclude inventions like firearms, machines, automation, religion [real faith], and other physical and changes in the milieu. Amish and Mennonites have a different value system and none of what you impute and puke has any relevance to this people.

Russia confounds every doctrinaire snail oil salesmen like you. “Drink this and ALL your troubles will go away”. “Material Determinism”, “Rationalism”, “This tactile, sensate Reality is all that there is”, “Man Made Laws can be formulated that explain EVERYTHING. And control EVERYTHING, too. This is you, my Little Apparatchik.
Nobody important in Russia is guided or led by academic doctrines and intellectual purism. It’s not the body of the soup or the stock. It’s a sprinkling in the pot. Russians operate on Common Sense, because the country, as does China, thinks like engineers do. Russians are coldly analytical AND deeply connected emotionally to there sub-conscious, aware of the Animus and the Shadow. Russians are connected to the Mystical, and appreciate where analytical, empirical, and rational tools end and Infinite begins. They are complex people, intellectual, effective, serious, and more of a whole being of Collective Consciousness than Germans.

Your immaturity, naiveté, and foolish overestimation exposed:

“I am an American Nazi”

“Asshole” is a useful guide. It’s for people who are sequestered and see things in black and white, like White College Women, half of whom are on psychotropic meds.
You seem like the sheltered man child who will never be given a group to lead, control, and inspire. A Teaching Assistant lecturing incoming Freshmen is your metier. They are easily fooled. Government organizations and academia are full of fluffy men, ding dong women, and housebroken puppies who would do anything for their tenure and stipend. They don’t have too many “Assholes”, by which I mean someone who will shake up the lethargy, the stillness, the silliness, and the sloth and minimum munchkins. Cut through it, sometimes brutally when necessary. A lot of great men, who led, went against the leaden normalcy—-were “Assholes”. It is simpletonian to not differentiate between good and bad Assholes.

Finally, please tell me why you think you are so smart, effective, contain vital information and wiz bang wisdom. Have you created anything? Applied CONCRETELY your economic history to unlock solutions for our times. How do your intertwined ideas and formulations relate to action? Your moniker is MeFoBills. That implies the boundaries, and a sense of your conception of a mechanism[s] that unlock doors of emollient and salve of suffering and oppression. Wattca goan a do????? MEFOBILLS!!! That’s the elixir, the Pixie Dust, the greatest suppository in the history of the World. It’s gonna break loose, flow the juice, bring Bob Marley’s predictions and predilections to fruitville market.

Me Fo Bills

A Mefo bill (sometimes written as MEFO bill) was a six-month promissory note, drawn upon the dummy company Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft (Metallurgical Research Corporation), devised by the German Central Bank President, Hjalmar Schacht, in 1934. These bills could be discounted by any German bank at any time, and these banks, in turn, could rediscount the bills at the Reichsbank at any time within the last three months of their earliest maturity.[1] They therefore acted as a highly liquid means of payment to finance the Nazi German government’s programme of rearmament, allowing them to rearm under the Versailles Treaty.
Mefo bills followed the scheme for which the Öffa bills were the blueprint.
As Germany was rearming against the terms of the Treaty of Versailles, the Nazi government needed a form of money that did not leave a paper trail and allowed them to spend past the treaty terms on military rearmament.[2] It is assumed that billions of MEFO bills were issued throughout the regime’s time in power, though the records are not precise.[
Hjalmar Schacht formed the limited liability company Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft, m.b.H., or “MEFO” for short. The company’s “Mefo bills” served as bills of exchange, convertible into Reichsmark upon request. “MEFO” had no product, service or operation. It was solely a balance sheet entity.

Mefo bills were issued to mature in six months, but with a provision for indefinite 90-day extensions at the government’s behest. To further entice investors, Mefo bills carried an annual interest rate of 4%, higher than that of other trade bills at the time.
To make sure that the bills were never exchanged for Reichsmarks, which would lead to inflation, the 90-day maturation period was continually extended until the maturation was changed to a period of five years by 1939.[5] The exact total volume of Mefo bills issued was kept secret. However, as previously stated, it is assumed billions were printed.
Essentially, Mefo bills enabled the German Reich to run a greater deficit than it would otherwise have been able to. By 1938, there were 12 billion Reichsmarks of Mefo bills, compared with 19 billion of standard government bonds.[6] This enabled the German government to increase war production while delaying the economic problems associated with draining government funds.
Economic consequences
The Nazi government’s continued use of debt funding created a large financial deficit. However, MEFO bills were very effective in providing funds. Previous to the MEFO program, the Reichsbank was not allowed to loan more than 100 million reichsmarks to the government.[1] MEFO bills allowed billions in military and public-works funding. Germany through MEFO bills, began printing money. However, inflation did not increase. This is because the Nazi government rarely redeemed MEFO bills.[1] In addition, the interest rate and supposed security of the MEFO bills meant most were kept in circulation and rarely cashed.[3]
MEFO bills concealed military spending forbidden by the Treaty of Versailles.

People marvel at the Third Reich and its rapid rise to prosperity and industrialization. Where did the revenue come from? Not earned external money from trade. Hidden funders like the Wall Street Bankers and the City of London? Perhaps but certainly by issuing (printing press) fiat paper money. These “were” borrowed paper money from industries, which trade them among themselves, and were forbidden to cash them for Deutschmarks. That’s because they were like the Fed borrowing money from itself from the capital markets in dollars. Mefobills were not denominated in D.marks. And the 4% interest. Where did that come from? Directly from selling more of this imaginary money. It was a Ponzi scheme. One day those bill would have to be redeemed. And to do that, like America, Hitler would need to confiscate the wealth and resources of other countries, including free labor.
This is a multi-staged process, just like the American Fed. If the Reich had prevailed, there would still be huge bills and deficits to reckon with. The costs of administering conquered countries, spreading out the military to suppress unwilling populations and subversive movements would be prohibited. Hitler would then find out that having bitten off big chunks of others’ pizza, the digestion of it would prove to be a disaster surprise. At this point, comes International Jewish Private Capital to extend credit.
So, either way, Hitler was “good for the Jews”. They got their “6 million died in the Holocaust as immediate down payment.

Overall, I agree with your assessment, I have the same problem with Chomsky too. On the other hand, I am also in academia, and I know how things work there.

Thanks for your reply and for your measured view; I really appreciate it.

The point you make is very fair and realistic, people in academia can only go so far as their public persona allows them to, and that was actually well stated by Chomsky himself. The role of so-called liberal intellectuals is to enhance the ruling order by very a finely-tuned tolerated level of dissidence.

Noam Chomsky has noted that slight deviations from the orthodoxy of power can be met with removal. “The liberal intellectuals…are typically the guardians at the gates: we’ll go this far, but not one millimeter farther; and it’s terrifying to think that somebody might go a millimeter farther.”

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The problem I have with pseudo objectors like Michael Hudson and Noam Chomsky is that they express valid opinions on secondary facts, but cannot help gaslighting their public on the main issues, while they are not obliged to.

Why does Michael Hudson keep, in 2025, expressing his opinion that Israel is an instrument of US foreign policy, when International Relations are NOT his area of expertise, and while people more competent than him such , as John Mearsheimer, say the contrary?

One problem I have with Chomsky is his laughable statement that “9/11 doesn’t matter“.
9/11 is obviously the most important geopolitical event of the 21st Century, comparable only to the rise of China. I don’t know the context of his reflexion, maybe his excuse is that he tried to avoid an uncomfortable question during the course of a live discussion.

But why does Chomsky ALSO lie and gaslight his public about Kennedy’s intentions to withdraw from Vietnam? This crucial decision goes along with JFK’s plans for detente with the USSR and control of nuclear weapons, which was arguably the most burning issue post-WW2.
As a “liberal”, shouldn’t he celebrate the intellectual legacy of JFK?

Could the two academics above not have assumed positions similar to Professor Jeffrey Sachs’ for instance, also a prominent Jewish academic and even more so, an official deeply involved in UN diplomacy?
Sachs cannot be as radical as us anonymous commenters, but he is pretty irreproachable in my opinion, he never uses his intellectual authority into tricking his audience into a mendacious, diversionary trains of thought. He says what is right and stops when he can’t say no more. No deception, no gaslighting.

Noam Chomsky’s problem with recognising JFK’s singularity is that JFK was the target of the Zionist establishment due to his opposition to Israel acquiring nuclear weapons.
The difference with Jeffrey Sachs is that Noam Chomsky, and Michael Hudson most probably, are covert Zionist supporters, the worst kind.

Thanks. Very interesting.

With the onset of the Age of Discovery and the Portuguese discovery of a sea route to India, the Mendes brothers became particularly notable spice traders. They also expanded into silver trading, a crucial payment method for Asian traders who supplied the business with spices.

Were the brothers Sephardic Jews? After Spanish expulsion, Jews did go up into Portugal.

where she began to rebuild the area’s abandoned towns to make them available to refugees so they could settle there if they wished, one of the earliest attempts at a modern Zionist movement.

I agree this sounds like the first attempt.

When Rothschild got on board at first Zionist conference, Rothschild coordinated with other finance Jews – to recycle their usury gains into new Zionist zones, like Palestine. They also wanted Crimea, but that has been erased from history.

If you don’t follow the Jew, you cannot understand Western History. Thanks.

I admire Michael Hudson as an economic historian but apparently Church history is just not his piece of cake. The characteristic of Cyril of Alexandria (one of the deepest Church teachers) is entirely wrong incl. accusing him of killing Hypatia which no competent Church historian would agree with; the thing about “inducing Mary to the Trinity” is beyond preposterous, showing that Michael unfortunately is not a theologian at all. I couldn’t bring myself to read past that point.

Michael, with deepest respect, please don’t go into theological matters (except economic issues such as interest and fair price), you overstep your boundaries and cast shade on your scholarly work, which is otherwise, in my view, impeccable.

Manasseh was leader of the Jewish community. I just use him to personify the Jewish and other banker activities of the day. Manasseh mostly operated to issue propaganda.

With the opening of the Cape route, Antwerp became the supreme trading center for the world. This was where gold, and spices were unloaded. It basically became the new East-West node. (Former nodes were Constantinople, then Venice.)

German and Italian merchant bankers ,the Fuggers and Affaitadi competed with each other for Spices, and special favor from the Portuguese crown.

The Kingdom of Portugal was created by Burgundian Knights during Christian re-conquest of Spain. For Portugal to take over the east/west mechanism, she had to go to war with the Arabs. The new fortified harbors, or string of pearls, was the island of Goa (1510), Ormuz (1515), Malacca (1511). In east Africa it was Sofala (1505) and Mozambique (1507).

Portugal also tried to close the red sea, to deny the Venetians their route to metal money by way of Alexandria.

In Antwerp it was Sir Thomas Gresham who floated gold loans to Queen Elizabeth 1. This is where Gresham’s law comes from, which is more gold buggery. Gresham erected the London exchange as an exact copy of Antwerp’s bourse. In 1522, Antwerp pawnbrokers (Jews) asked for City of London to be put up as collateral for a loan. See how debt works? Debt is a sin in all the older language. Literally Debt is Sin.

Calvin (1509-1564) and old testamentarianism was supported by the Jewish community, especially later in history by Manasseh and his printing presses.

Antwerp was superseded by Amsterdam. How? When Charles V abdicated the throne in France (1555), he gave his Netherlands possessions to his foolish son, Phillip 2 of Spain.

(Idiot sons are a problem for Kingdoms, part of the downfall of Goys. The Hungarian method of constitutional kingdoms is better.)

Phillip’s taxes caused a revolt in 1565. Calvinists supported the revolt, and they flocked to northern Netherlands, which then became Holland.

In 1585, Antwerp was attacked by the Prince of Parma by blockading the mouth of the Schelde river, and this strangled the people. About 20,000 of so merchants from Antwerp fled to Amsterdam.

So, basically Amsterdam became Judeo Christian Calvinist, and they were sympathetic to the Jews, and many new Sephardic Jewish merchants from Antwerp arrived.

The relative power of Europe transferred from Catholic to Jewish/ Jude0-Christian, at this one place in history, and at this time. But the date of 1650 is convenient to remember.

Manasseh was downstream of Antwerp getting shut down, as he was born in Portugal in 1604, but moved to the Netherlands in 1610.

There were no Ashkenazi Jews in Amsterdam until 1674. In 1674, Sephardic were 2,500 and Ashkenazi 5,000. In other words, the Ashkenazi started flooding in.

Ashkenazi flood, would be something like the Bantu flooding into white south Africa; Ashkenazi were pulled into Amsterdam to work in “finance,” and other trades.

Manasseh began printing bibles in 1627. He also printed the first Hebrew book. He engaged in geopolitical operations, especially his relations with Oliver Cromwell. (A history of Jews in England, by Tovey).

Manasseh led the efforts to gain re-admission of Jews to England. Manasseh can be considered as a super-parasite, working for Jewish interests, and against England.

Herbert Bloom (Economic Activities of Jews of Amsterdam) counted 318 Jewish printers from the time of Manasseh up until 1732. The average printer published 3,000 copies, which was a high amount considering the population. In other words, the Jews were very active in propaganda and narrative control.

From 1625 on, there were Seditious books smuggled into England. The books were to attack England’s social order, to make it ripe for the insertion of the parasite.

1634 – Flagellum Ponstificum (Bastwick)
1652 – Aplogetical Narration (Lilburne)
1657 – Killing no Murder
1673 – England’s Appeal from the Private Cabal at Whitehall (Lisola)

This printing of propaganda and bibles was not profitable, but instead was funded by recycled usury dollars. It was not the profit motive of “capitalism,” it was Jewish subversion. The usury came from the arbitraging of silver and gold.

This is why I pick Manasseh and the year 1650, but there was a lead up to the 1650 date.

It might also be possible that John Winthrop, when he landed in Massachusets Bay in 1630, was carrying an English Bible printed by Manasseh in Amsterdam .

Manasseh (Jewish method and finance capital) vs Winthrop (American method and industrial capitalism) would be a “god having a sense of humor” moment. 1650 has symmetry, and it a good point in historical time for the big bang event of Jewish takeover, and especially their invention of finance capitalism.

Reminds me of the fact that our education system seems to intentionally ignore basic monetary/financial history. As you have mentioned, financial history/currency etc is central to human society. Why isn’t it studied from grade school on up?

Narrative control includes public schools. An estrogen laden school marm, hectors boys from on high. They are not allowed to engage in taboo topics. Once a memory circuit has been myelin sheathed, it is hard to undo. Negroes are magical! There is magick dirt!

The preferable type of schooling for white boys, is the Greek Trivium Method.

White boys can intellectually wrestle and engage with each other, because they are the same race and sex. This is how the ancient Greeks produced so much genius. No girls allowed!

No topic was off limits, and they fearlessly engaged with the world, trying to understand it. Their debates were also fierce, and sometimes their idiots would get an elbow to the face.

In this Ron Unz forum, the idiots keep on blabbing and throwing up smoke screens. But, Ron Unz is a free speech absolutist. There can be no metaphorical elbows to the face as needed. The idiots were shunned in the Trivium schools, or they learned to keep their mouth shut and allow the smarter boys to debate, and then come to generally agreed upon conclusions. These agreed upon conclusions were the closest thing to the truth. They were truth seekers.

The ancient Greeks had free speech, but eventually their idiots – who were completely defeated in debates, knew they were beaten, or there would be a sharp elbow to the face by those who agreed to the general truth. The boys also were taught to search out and find facts on their own, before engaging in debates. Fact finding, debates, then general acknowledgment about the found truth.

Basically, the Goyish people of the world are now operating in a clown world environment, antithetical to goy’s Greco-Roman ancestors. Accept Clownworld narrative with no debate, or be doxed. This is also very Jewish, and Talmud thumpers, thump their “holy” books for the wisdom of the sages.

Western world finance clown environment is Jewish, helped along with compromised and greedy goys, many of whom are judeo-christian.. Clownworld includes didatic teaching from on high in skools, including teaching from the pulpit. TEACHER LEAVE THEM KIDS ALONE!

Didactic teaching is a structured method where teachers deliver lessons directly to students, focusing on clear, organized instruction and factual information. This approach is often teacher-centered and emphasizes the transmission of knowledge from the educator to the learner.

Asshole” is a useful guide. It’s for people who are sequestered and see things in black and white, like White College Women, half of whom are on psychotropic meds.
You seem like the sheltered man child who will never be given a group to lead, control, and inspire.

Is your sociopathic butt-hurting because I called you out?

You are an idiot ass hole type who needs a sharp elbow to the face.

Anybody can look at your comment history and notice how often you engage in ad-hominins, literally pissing down people’s necks.

And yes, I did lead and control, and your type I would ferret out and flush out so fast you wouldn’t believe it. You are an ass-hole of the highest rank. Flushing your type is job number one of an effective leader/manager.

None of my million words of commentary here will you find me self-aggrandizing. People pick their leaders, and you are not a leader. Followers like to see humility and self-effacement, characteristics you do not possess.

Super asshole, and you could not resist getting a word in edgewise.

The other Unz commentators don’t know how to deal with your type, and Ron Unz, being a free speech absolutist does not ban sociopaths. I obviously have much experience as a manager/leader dealing with ass-holes. You have to confront them.

Ron is making a mistake in my opinion, as there are limits to free speech, especially abusive speech. You don’t get ahead by tearing other people down, which is what you do. You lift them up.

It might help if you would slow down a little bit. We don’t need a grand unified theory of history which is sort of reductio ad absurdum in any case.

Your Bloom citation does not look like it can be verified at all and it definitely cannot be verified fast.

Ashkenazi flood, would be something like the Bantu flooding into white south Africa; Ashkenazi were pulled into Amsterdam to work in “finance,” and other trades.

Bantus are a large percent of Africa. Ashkenazi and Bantu are not at all alike. This statement is absurd. Also they are near pitch black and cannot camoflauge their beings.

Which is to say, you fit the characterization of the undergraduate college student, cribbing his professors’ lecture notes.

The above is you and your sociopathy looking for a “handle” to then build a strawman.

Mostly my comments to you are aimed at UNZ editors, who are falling down on the job. Sociopaths should not be allowed to speak. The UNZ editors are apparently not trained. Strawmen, ad-hominems, etc. That is you.

Normies are scared away, when sociopaths like you, start flaming them with ad-hominins, etc.. I am trained from early life for sniffing out the ass-holes. I sniff them out, and then bounce them on their ass.

If you do a word search on my comment history, using the term “bouncer” you will find somebody who once asked me what I did. It might be several years old now. I don’t feel the need to build myself up, because all that matters is the weight of your words. You disagree with that, obviously, because of your mal formed personality.

Bouncing was my first job. Why? I was a good fit for the job, because I am unusually large, and can handle myself in violent encounters. Little pip-squeaks are like gnats. You were the kid on the playground, who was the pip-squeak. I know your type.

I’m not anywhere near at an “undergraduate college kid level,” that is you and your imagination going out of control trying to find a handle. Very early on in my life, as a bouncer – you are the manager in charge of the club, basically to make sure things are kept in order. I became a bouncer, because my ex 304, who also was a sex addict, asked me to do fill in at the club “for her.” After that first night, I figured it was easy money. I did it for fun mostly, but it was also serious, as we had some killings.

Partially correct. Probably referring to Bosnia and Herzegovina (from WW2) which is also Serbian land although half of current Serbia is also mountainous (their WW1 experience), but half is Pannonian terrain. More important is the fighting instinct in interaction with the terrain and the Serbs were very disappointed in Clinton and Blair for not sending 200K ground troops as they promised during the 1999 aggression instead of dropping bombs from a height of 5 km. They would probably have broken their Vietnamese record already in the first year of the aggression.

There were no Ashkenazi Jews in Amsterdam until 1674. In 1674, Sephardic were 2,500 and Ashkenazi 5,000. In other words, the Ashkenazi started flooding in.

Where did they come from and what language did they speak?

It might help if you would slow down a little bit. We don’t need a grand unified theory of history which is sort of reductio ad absurdum in any case.

If you don’t like, it don’t read, and don’t comment. It wasn’t you that asked about Manesseh. The dates are very easy to follow and in sequence order. It’s a digestible Pablum rate for normies, and you are having a hard time?

Your Bloom citation does not look like it can be verified at all and it definitely cannot be verified fast.

Then don’t verify it. I was asked for source material, so here it is. You don’t believe it, that’s your problem. If you do want to believe it, then here it is:

Herbert Bloom, Economic Activities of the Jews in Amsterdam. (Port Washington, NY; Kennikat 1935)

Bantus are a large percent of Africa. Ashkenazi and Bantu are not at all alike. This statement is absurd

It not an absurd analogy. South Africa was depopulated when the Dutch arrived. After the conditions were ripe (meaning the white farms were built), the Bantu flooded down into the South, and South Africa as been fuk#ed up ever since. NO BANTUS, then suddenly BANTUS

Same goes for Amsterdam, the flooding of Ashkenazi’s was not helpful. The Jew population was also mentioned by Bloom on page 176, is that accurate enough for you? NO ASHKENAZI, then suddenly ASHKENAZI

It should be obvious that I like to push back against idiot comments.

Jews moving up into Northern Europe did so primarily being what they always have been since they gave up herding: merchants and bankers. And they truly saw great opportunities in financing Viking/Varangian raiding. They did not lose Aramaic because of new genes but because they developed their own patois among Germanic tribes. Jews chose Germanic precisely because they saw it as anti-Latin, anti-Roman.

Yiddish is the Germanic dialect that Jews created for themselves. It never was about any genetic based tribalism. It was about Jews devising that which served their interests best living in Europe, specifically in northern and Eastern Europe. It spread all over because Jews went all over. Just like today when English, which also is Germanic: Anglo-Saxon, is the international Jewish language. That change came for the same basic reason that Jews devised Yiddish: it works bets for Jewish ‘business.’

Yes, the brothers were Marrano Jews, born in Portugal where the family took refuge in 1492.
Wikipedia has a number of decent articles (with the relevant bibliography) about Benveniste, Gracia Mendez (aka Beatriz de Luna Miques), her nephew Joseph Nasi (aka João Miques) Duke of Naxos, who played a great role in the Ottoman politics (e.g. Due to his trading connections in Europe, he was able to exercise great influence on Ottoman foreign policy. Among his achievements were negotiating peace with Poland and influencing the new election of the Polish king. He was awarded the monopoly of the beeswax trade with Poland, and of the wine trade with Moldavia, and maneuvered in the latter country to keep princes favorable to his policies in power).
You may try to access the following:
”Mendes, Benveniste, de Luna, Micas, Nasci: The State of the Art (1532-1558), in THE JEWISH QUARTERLY REVIEW, LXXXVIII, Nos. 3-4 (January-April, 1998) 135-211.

It is imperative to follow the Jew, if you want to understand Western History.

Charlemagne ordered the Saxon tribe to move far east, out of his jurisdiction because he, and his scholars at the developing University of Paris, saw Saxons as a tribe that was largely incorrigible and nearly incapable of being civilized in a Christian sense. So, indeed, when the Saxons went far east, they encountered many Slavic peoples, which they began terrorizing immediately.

A Saxon is a Saxon. As Charlemagne knew.

Ron is making a mistake in my opinion, as there are limits to free speech, especially abusive speech.

Well, certainly there are, Mr. American Nazi. But you said National Socialism was compatible with the Founding Farthers. You can’t be that stupid, so you must be a deceiver, liar, and propagandist. Either a Hasbara or one who has the same MO and amorality.

Your reply is a whining “Don’t hit me no mo” plea of someone like a priest caught in a police sweep of a bordello. Your recitation of your professor’s notes on a limited subject, hermetically sealed off from the grand sweep and depth and profundity of human experience shows how far your reach has exceeded you grasp. [gasp!]

I call the Readers’ and Commentariat’s attenion to a disagreement we had over the performance of the Russian economy, the performance of the Central Bank of Russia and its Governor, Elvira Nabiullina.
At that time, the Ruble was devalued, and Russia was struggling to replace the imports that had been used in various businesses. A time of some uncertainty.

In summation, the selection of a new Central Bank Governor in 2011 had several contenders besides Elvira. The two leaders besides Elvira were ideological points on the spectrum. One was a Dr. Ron Paul, tight money candidate like his successor, the other was more toward Keynesian Economics, pro government intervention, lower interest rates to spur growth and of course, implied if not stated explicitly, more regulation of the private sector. This waste discharge was a former candidate for the Presidency and was associated with the Communist Party. This member of the Russian Academy of Science, professional intellectual, author of books, but one on whom important concrete matters of practical consequence ever were involved looked good on paper. And he had plenty in his chorus-from the academy and similar sources.

But Elvira, had some major mojo. One, she had a solid track record working in the economic ministies since 1992. She was characterized as completely analytical, a master of detail, and forthright in her opinions-which were usually correct. Like Margaret Thatcher, who intimidated her ministers, by doing more research and more thorough familiarization, so Elvira was warily respected, due to her fearlessness which resulted in her peers having to back down or concede. She had an exemplary record of BEING RIGHT, as events subsequently unfolded.
Her composure and demeanor emit two contrary signals: one, a short, owlish introvert, very modest and self contained. Two, an intensity, steady gaze, and intense seriousness. Her entire career was a display of the practical, common sense, decision maker who combined past lessons with probabilities driven by data. Finally, she worked with closely with Putin as an advisor.

Aramaic? The ancestors of European Jews spoke Aramaic? And that language transformed into Yiddish in today’s Germany? So the Ashkenazi are originally from the Middle East whose Aramaic language became Yiddish?

What is the difference between Ashkenazi and Sephardi since the same can be said for Sephardi? Why did Hebrew arise if Aramaic is still a living language in the Middle East? Is Aramaic a Semitic or Indo-European (whatever that means) language? Where do the so-called ‘Slavic’ words in Yiddish in Germany come from? Who were the Eastern European (e.g. Russian) Ashkenazi and where did they come from?

You indirectly confirm Telemach’s thesis (Yiddish is older than German since it originated from Aramaic) but the Penelope Paradox remains (where did 92% of the Ashkenazi out of the total number of Jews [8 million] before WW2 come from)? Something is creaking in your structure.

Are you confirming with this that it was only during the time of Charlemagne that the Germans crossed the Rhine and entered Serbian territory, i.e. present-day Germany (Serbs also lived on the other side of the Rhine, but let’s ignore that for now)? Who were the Saxons in fact? Was another name for them the Lusatian Serbs? Where did they originate from?

Let us add some few comments on your sentence: When Rothschild got on board at first Zionist conference, Rothschild coordinated with other finance Jews – to recycle their usury gains into new Zionist zones, like Palestine. They also wanted Crimea, but that has been erased from history.
Only to better understand why the ”war on Ukraine”.
Indeed Rothschilds are sort of ”newcomers”, amanuensis of the ”other finance Jews” like the Warburgs, Shiffs (in laws of the ‘Warburgs’), Oppenheimers, Cassels, Montefiores, Goldsmith, Ephrussi, Ginzburgs, Poliakovs (all so ”Russian”), the real Jewish ”nobility” (Lords and ”peers of the realm” in England, barons and counts in Austria and in ”antisemitic” Russia), the crème de la crème in France, Presidents in Argentina (Milei is a cousin of Netanyahu), Mexico (grand-daughter of Chone Juan Sheinbaum Abramovitz, emigrated from Lithuania in 1928, becoming a jewelry merchant and a member of the Mexican Communist Party, daughter of Annie Pardo from a Sephardi Jewish family who arrived in Mexico in 1946, after fleeing from the ”persecution of Jews” in Bulgaria during World War II), in-laws ”Holocaust survivors” Berkowits-Kushner (immigrated from Poland in 1949), of the present POTUS, and many more (Kristols, Kagans, Nulands, Podhoretzes, Wolfowitzes, Perles, Maxwells, Epsteins, among others- Hollywood ”moguls” y compris). It’s a can of worms that you open at your own peril.
You may wonder with whom is Zelenski related?

In summary – how did Aramaic become a German language (i.e. its dialect)?

You probably see for yourself that this is as absurd as the thesis of a double Ashkenazim language replacement in all of Eastern Europe, first from some unknown (maybe Aramaic?) to the so-called Slavic and a little later from Slavic to Yiddish with German vocabulary, whereby, of that original language (Aramaic?) not a trace or sound remained.

Herbert Bloom, Economic Activities of the Jews in Amsterdam. (Port Washington, NY; Kennikat 1935)

When internet readers find your citations inaccessible they might presume that you are inaccurate, erroneous, or making shit up. This also applies when you go on and on and on and on.

Thank you for this detailed chronology naming key individuals Calvin and Manasseh.

You’ve made mention of this before and your credibility established here left no room for doubt, but these details are very helpful as to this monumental place and time, including Calvin being born in the decade following the 1492 expulsion of the Jews from Spain by Isabella and Ferdinand.

Calvin (1509-1564) and old testamentarianism was supported by the Jewish community, especially later in history by Manasseh and his printing presses.

Phillip’s taxes caused a revolt in 1565. Calvinists supported the revolt, and they flocked to northern Netherlands, which then became Holland.

So, basically Amsterdam became Judeo Christian Calvinist, and they were sympathetic to the Jews, and many new Sephardic Jewish merchants from Antwerp arrived.

Manasseh was leader of the Jewish community. I just use him to personify the Jewish and other banker activities of the day. Manasseh mostly operated to issue propaganda.

Manasseh began printing bibles in 1627. He also printed the first Hebrew book. He engaged in geopolitical operations, especially his relations with Oliver Cromwell. (A history of Jews in England, by Tovey).

Manasseh led the efforts to gain re-admission of Jews to England. Manasseh can be considered as a super-parasite, working for Jewish interests, and against England.

Herbert Bloom (Economic Activities of Jews of Amsterdam) counted 318 Jewish printers from the time of Manasseh up until 1732. The average printer published 3,000 copies, which was a high amount considering the population. In other words, the Jews were very active in propaganda and narrative control.

From 1625 on, there were Seditious books smuggled into England. The books were to attack England’s social order, to make it ripe for the insertion of the parasite.

1634 – Flagellum Ponstificum (Bastwick)
1652 – Aplogetical Narration (Lilburne)
1657 – Killing no Murder
1673 – England’s Appeal from the Private Cabal at Whitehall (Lisola)

This printing of propaganda and bibles was not profitable, but instead was funded by recycled usury dollars. It was not the profit motive of “capitalism,” it was Jewish subversion. The usury came from the arbitraging of silver and gold.

This is why I pick Manasseh and the year 1650, but there was a lead up to the 1650 date.

It might also be possible that John Winthrop, when he landed in Massachusets Bay in 1630, was carrying an English Bible printed by Manasseh in Amsterdam .

Manasseh (Jewish method and finance capital(ism)) vs Winthrop (American method and industrial capitalism) would be a “god having a sense of humor” moment. 1650 has symmetry, and it a good point in historical time for the big bang event of Jewish takeover, and especially their invention of finance capitalism.

Deep observations on the dynamics in the public school environment that styme insightful discussion of realities necessary for reaching un/under recognized truths.

And yet in some ways experiencing those dynamics seem to enable products of those schools to be less naive about, or inhibited by, political correctness in adulthood.

Judeo Christian is a term that no Christian should use under any circumstances to describe anything. It is a falsity coined by Jewish snakes. Innocent ignorant people using it is not an excuse.

Amsterdam Christian business men partnering with Jews Monday through Friday were in over their heads. Same for the follow on English dupes. If they were Christians. Hypocrites come in all varieties.

Paul is a fictional character created on paper, a poster boy, in order to carry on an ideological struggle. He was a Post Office Box. There are a lot of fictional realities in your world view. Or delusions as they are called.

Thanks for this. The Benveniste rabbit hole goes deep. The early 20th century Zionist Abraham Yahuda, who bought most of the (fraud) Isaac Newton’s archives (full of proto-Zionist ramblings and Kabbalah magick, but no draft of the Principia, hmm), was a Benveniste. At nineteen Yahuda was already being given private audiences with the likes of Theodor Herzl, because he was a Nasi prince and the Jews remember. Columbus, recently proven to be Jewish, was part of the Benveniste La Cavalleria. His expedition was also a psy-op and fake. The Jews had been running across the ocean long before that. Yahuda’s nephew wrote a book arguing that Hebrew is just deformed Greek. It’s no surprise at all that through the Mendes line they controlled global trade. They once ran the world, and they want to rule it again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus%27s_letter_on_the_first_voyage

“In the letter, Christopher Columbus does not describe the journey itself, saying only that he traveled thirty-three days and arrived at the islands of “the Indies” (las Indias), “all of which I took possession for our Highnesses, with proclaiming heralds and flying royal standards, and no one objecting”. He describes the islands as being inhabited by “Indians” (Indios).”

First, note the 33 which signals a spook hoax. Second, note that no manuscript exists, and the fact that this fake news was simultaneously printed in all the big Jewish printing centers like Basel and Antwerp.

From the chronological revisionist Marfulls-Pujada: “The more the official history is explored, the more evident it is that the project of the Catholic Monarchs is, essentially, a company of converted Jews associated with a lineage, that of the Benvenist, who are all subsequently dispossessed of their powers and privileges.” For those who are into Fomenko, here’s the fascinating article:

https://chronologia.org/en/articles/marfull/20211124_kalonymus_colom_colon.html

Another truth-enjoyer? Ok, bring your knee pads and stay and wait for your turn.

If you think interest is usury, then you are wrong headed.

Interest is not usury.

Please help with the comprehension of this.

Michael Hudson emphasizes that any level of interest is usury because it causes the amount of indebtedness to grow merely with the passage of time. E. Michael Jones titled his landmark book “Barren Metal” (subtitled “A History of Capitalism as the Conflict between Labor and Usury“) and says things like metal coins can not copulate and multiply like ewes and rams.

These two guys’ definition seems persuasive and preferable.

This makes me think the first two people whose work educated me on the Jewish Question, Kevin MacDonald then David Duke, who seem to say usury is “excessive interest”, are mistaken which would be understandable because they’re not expert specialist finance and economic historians like Michael Hudson.

This makes perfect sense

The only credit issued is to be sovereign credit.

when the sovereign seeks to help the people instead of being “a hostile elite” as Kevin MacDonald accurately describes the Jews who relentlessly seek to exploit the goyim. It seems to be what is going on in China.

There are two ways to deal with interest. In the tally stick era, they had yearly fairs. When you left the fair, credit and debts had to be balanced. That includes interest on loans. Heads were knocked together, so that creditors and debtors would come to agreement.

I notice that Hudson has not noticed this period of history, which is arguably superior to the Christian Jubilee of 50 years. This was yearly!

Is this annual debt forgiveness instead of every 7th year as the Jews forgave each other under Deut. 15:1 prior to their “prozbul” ?

https://www.jpost.com/judaism/article-717252

The other way, was comprehended by John Winthrop, and written down by Cotton Mather. You just issue debt free notes, so that interest on private debts can be paid. These were called Massachusets Bills.

Is this government-issued payments for citizens to apply to pay off debts owed to non-government entities?

I am not in the Fomenko stuff. It rather confuses what was known for a long time.
The Jewish origin of Columbus is nothing new.

It was suggested first by a the German Rabbi Meyer Kaiserling, specialist on the history of Spanish Jewry and the Marranos, in his book Christopher Columbus and the Participation of the Jews in the Spanish and Portuguese Discoveries, 1894, written at the request of the Spanish government on the occasion of the 400th anniversary of the discovery of America. He didn’t affirm specifically that Columbus himself was Jew.

Spanish intellectuals became the first to claim that Columbus was a Sephardic Jew, hoping to further elevate Spain’s status, in the wake of the losses of 1898, as the trailblazer of European civilization in the Americas. The Spanish historian and writer Celso Garcia de la Riega was the first to openly attack Genoese theory at a conference held in Madrid in 1898 at the request of the Geographical Society of Madrid. It came out as a book Colón, español. Su origen y patria in which asserted that not only some of Columbus’ crew had Spanish Jewish origins, but Columbus himself. He was accused of falsifying documents.
In 1933, American Jewish writer Maurice David purported to offer Spanish archival evidence to demonstrate Columbus’ Spanish Jewish bona fides, interestingly to enhance the status of the Sephardis despised by the Ashkenazi Jews which made the bulk of the American Jewery.
Nobel Prize nominee Salvador de Madariaga endorsed the theory of Columbus’ Jewish origins in his 1949 book CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS BEING THE LIFE OF THE VERY MAGNIFICENT LORD DON CRISTOBAL COLON.

The name Benveniste came from the Spanish expression “bien viniste” meaning ‘(you) have arrived well’. It was rather an appellation applied to Makhir ben Yehudah Zakkai of Narbonne, brought from Babylon by Charlemagne (as the legend says) upon his arrival in Narbonne. It echoes the Biblical ”Blessed the one who comes in the name of the Lord”. His family enjoyed for centuries many privileges and its members bore the title of “nasi” and were hailed as ”Rex Iudaeorum (King of the Jews) at Narbonne. The place of residence of the Makhir family at Narbonne was designated in official documents as “Cortada Regis Judæorum”at Narbonne. The place of residence of the Makhir family at Narbonne was designated in official documents as “Cortada Regis Judæorum” (the Court of the Kings of the Jews). The theory of Zuckerman that Makhir was actually identical with Natronai ben Habibi, an exilarch deposed and exiled in a dispute between two branches of the family of Bostanai in the late eighth century, is very plausible since the Benvenisti claimed descendance from King David, like the exilarchs from Babylon.
Kalonymos (Ancient Greek: Kαλώνυμος) means “beautiful name” and is a translation of the Hebrew “Shem-Tov”. The family is purported to have emigrated to Italy after the destruction of the Temple and from there it spread to Germany and Provence, being one of the most prominent Jewish families.