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Facing Reality by Charles Murray - Audiobook - Audible.com

It all comes down to man-mentality or dog-mentality. When a man believes something is right and wants it, he feels it in his bones. He grabs for it, and it’s not a matter of what others think. He prioritizes what HE feels to be right and righteous. He has autonomy, agency, and independence.
In contrast, no matter how much a dog wants something, its appetite takes a backseat to its anxiety for the master’s approval. This slavish craving for approval stands between the dog and what it really wants. No matter how much a dog wants something, it first looks for the go-ahead from the master.

This is why Charles Murray is ultimately worthless. He has a dog mentality. He may want good things for white folks in a country defined by liberty and civic nationalism, but when push comes to shove, this Biden-voting lowlife scumbag’s innermost emotion is abject servility to the Jewish Master. (Despising and not voting for Trump is one thing, but how can anyone who cares about America vote for Joe Biden? Only a craven and wussy status-anxious piece of turd on the conservative or libertarian side of the aisle could have done such a thing.)

Because of Murray’s dog-mentality, even what he yearns for — decent treatment of white folks like himself — must take a backseat to sappy servility to Jews and an eagerness for their approval. Indeed, even when he lays out the argument for innate racial differences, it boils down to, “I’m doing this really for YOU, my Jewish Master. It is to prevent the rise of white consciousness lest it challenge your deserved Chosen-People supremacy over us inferior goyim.”
It’s been his usual shtick despite being lambasted and skewered by the Jewish-run media since the publication of THE BELL CURVE, the pressures of which have even led Conservatism Inc. to ignore him — The Nat or Gnat Review, even more nervous about Jewish sensitivities than Chuck the Cuck himself, didn’t even bother to review Murray’s latest book, silently acquiescing to the ‘canceling’ of the dufus. What a sad case, this Murray. Such dogs are utterly useless to the white race. A true patriot must be pro-white because he feels it in his bones, because it is his innermost passion and duty. All his thoughts and actions must flow from a virile racial consciousness. Anxiety about Jewish Approval must not stand between himself and his sense of destiny.

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When a free man hunts rabbit, he does so because he wants to. He doesn’t look over his shoulder for approval. In contrast, even when a dog is most eager to chase after rabbits, it first looks to the master for approval. If the master signals NO, the dog suppresses its desire because its primary function is to seek the master’s approval and its corollary, an abject fear of his disapproval. Murray is just a white dog, a pathetic hound.

He practices a form of servile race-ism, a kind of racialist view devised not to serve and favor one’s own group but another. If ‘racism’ is commonly understood as a sense of racial superiority or chauvinism over other groups, Murray’s brand of cuck-racism comes down to spinning racial facts and theories in service to what he deems to be the superior race, the Jews.
Of course, Murray will deny this, but whom is he kidding? If judged on the basis of his political biases, he is clearly a supremacist except not for his own kind but for the Jews, which is indeed why he makes Jews nervous even though he’s doing it for them. The autistic side of Murray hopes that if the world knows Jews are smarter, most goyim will be like Murray: get down on their knees and worship/serve Jews as the Master Race. Jews know better. Sure, while some goyim will cuck to Jews as innately superior, others may grow resentful and suspicious, or come to the realization that intelligence and wisdom aren’t synonymous — too many high-IQ Jews act more like tribal gangsters and their supposed ‘liberalism’ is really a veil to hide their true motives.

Murray seems to believe he’s doing a favor for the blue city elites by speaking rather frankly on the black issue: Blacks do worse in school due to lower intelligence and commit more crime due to… something! In the corridors of his cuck-brain, these plain truths can only favor the affluent Jews and white elites. After all, if indeed blacks are more violent, then tougher policing and measures like stop-and-frisk, along with expanded incarceration, are most justified. Also, if black failure owes to lower IQ, then white ‘liberals’ have less to feel guilty about and can take greater pride in their own success(than torment themselves as undeserving beneficiaries of ‘white privilege’). Heather MacDonald, dufus #2, seems to share Murray’s view as she’s always arguing for more meritocracy and law-and-order in support of blue city ‘liberal’ elites. “I’m trying to defend your wealth & success and protect you people from black crime.”

But what both fail or refuse to understand is that it’s not just about success & failure and facts & data. Of course, Jews, at least the smart ones, know all about racial differences and the black problem. How could they not when Jews, more than most other ethnic groups, had a long history of dealing with blacks?
But, Jews know blacks are talented in key areas, and furthermore, the real backbone of Jewish Power is white submission. The cult of ‘white guilt’ must be sustained at all times(along with Holocaust Guilt) in order to prevent the emergence of white identity and interest, pride and agency.
So, it’s advantageous for Jewish Supremacism to push the narrative that black problems are entirely the fault of whites who must atone at all times by rejecting any sense of white positivity, even the notion of “It’s Okay to be White.”

As for white gulliberals drunk on the Kool-Aid, Negrolatry is their post-Christian religion of choice, along with Anne Frank Worship and Homomania. These people vape so much on the self-serving ‘virtue’ in regards to the Magic-Tragic Negro that they simply can’t let it go, even if it harms them socially and/or economically. Their sense of ‘spiritual’ conviction derives from the notion that they, as conscientious and guilt-ridden whites, are committed to the elevation of the Noble Negro, whereas all those ‘racist’ redneck MAGA deplorables want to bring back black slavery, call blacks ‘ni**ers’ 1000x a day, and whip blacks until dey all be saying dey’s name be ‘Toby’.

In other words, you can’t argue facts and logic with a cult-or-religious mentality, and it just so happens that ‘secular liberals’ have their own faiths and dogmas. So, even though stuff like BLM has resulted in considerable harm to blue cities, the gullib material well-being takes a backseat to the proggish ‘spiritual’ vanity that wants to wash George Floyd’s feet(and suck his dong). They are like the whites in GET OUT, or getoutsiders, who fetishize blackness to the point of devouring both whiteness and blackness.

Now, it doesn’t take too much imagination to figure this out, but Murray pores over the facts under the delusion of one day being appreciated by Jews and white gulliberals. He uses a magnifying glass when he needs to step back and see the bigger picture of the power dynamics. True, policies like Stop-and-Frisk have been beneficial to Jews in big cities, and urban gentrification did wonders for the affluent white gulliberal crowd.
But what is of paramount importance to Jews is white submission to Jewish Supremacism, and so, safer streets had to be shelved to quash the rise of implicitly white populist-nationalism. Jews used the BLM card and 1619 narrative(and other bogus nonsense) to impugn whiteness at every turn, and white gulliberals, who’d enjoyed extended good times with gentrification, increased policing, and elevated incarceration rates for blacks, went all in on a new round of Negrolatry to exonerate themselves while dumping all the race problems on Trump and MAGA(and white cops who’d done so much to make blue cities nicer and comfier for Jews and white gullibs).

Jewish Supremacists need their secrets, and white gullibs need their delusions, and that is why Murray’s simple facts are so ‘triggering’ to them. To Jews, it’s a threat to their key to power, which is using blacks to guilt-bait whites into contrition and obeisance; and to white gullibs, it threatens their favored myth and the reason for sanctimony, the kind that oozes from the dorky face of icky CucKen Burns.
It’s about the power of power(for Jews) and the power of delusion(for gullibs), not so different from the Church’s denunciation of Galileo’s astronomical discoveries. Even the educated clergy who privately thought Galileo may be correct were nevertheless fearful of its impact on Church authority, and the true-believers of course wanted to burn him at the stake.
MaGoo Murray seems to take the modern Jews and urban white gulliberals at their word, i.e. they are secular, rational, and committed to free discussion and open to all views. In truth, Jews worship themselves and care most about power, and gullibs are no less irrational than religious folks, the difference being they have their own secular cults, icons, and sacraments(mostly controlled by Jews). It’s incredible that Murray hasn’t figured this out.

For all his high intelligence and erudition, Murray is either weak or bloody shoopid. Smart is the opposite of dumb but not of stupid, as some of the smartest people are also stupid as hell. Murray’s innate weakness of character betrayed itself when he caved on ‘gay marriage’, and on what basis? He didn’t want to hurt the sensitivities of ‘gay spouses’ playing at parenting. There you go, the institution most crucial to the well-being of civilization dismissed by Murray over the social anxiety of offending the ‘right kind of people’, the urbane, credentialed, and affluent. How weak can you get? That is so gay.

In one of his books he despaired of the ‘coming apart’ of American Society along socio-geographical and class lines, but the likes of him only need look in the mirror as they’re part of the problem. All said and done, instead of sticking with principles regardless of social station, thereby maintaining the bond among the high, middle, and low, he caved to remain in good graces with the ‘better kind of people’, the very same thing he did when he voted for Biden who’s flooding the US with tons of illegals and promoting all kind of degeneracy from the White House itself.
According the Murray the Cuck, the homo couple(who changed his position on ‘gay marriage’) were such darling people oh-so devoted to ‘their’ children, but that BS isn’t good enough. The very foundation of their union is bogus and an affront to biology and morality. It’s like it doesn’t matter if I do good deeds with stolen money. The fact that the money was stolen delegitimizes whatever good I do. But then, I suspect Murray’s cucking to ‘gay marriage’ had as much to do with the fact that the Jews, his god-masters, decreed in so many words that ‘gay marriage’ is THE LAW and that’s that, so shut up. Dog must obey the master.

Now, anyone in the professional world has to make some compromises, and no one could expect someone like Murray with a foothold in mainstream publishing to always speak freely and stick to principles. But, when someone goes 180 degrees on a fundamental value he’d espoused all his life and over some BS excuse, that is either weak or shallow. Patrick Buchanan compromised a lot too, but we know he would never compromise on bung-dong marriage. He always had a core set of principles that he remained true to. Such cannot be said of Murray the chicken-cuck-weasel.

Murray’s cowardly even when he’s courageous, which makes him sort of schizo. This is no less true of his latest book FACING REALITY. By conventional standards, Murray tackled topics in a way that most scholars and public intellectuals would not dare. But instead of marching all the way with courage, he gets cold feet and mutes himself on certain matters.
He dares to mention all the facts of black criminality and etc. but refuses to discuss WHY blacks are this way. So, it’s a case of facing reality(that blacks commit a lot of crime and have problems in school) but not delving into that reality, which is actually quite simple. Blacks evolved in hot, wild, and crazy Africa with elephants, lions, hyenas, leopards, cape buffaloes, crocodiles, hippos, rhinos, giraffes, chimps, gorillas, baboons, cobras, warthogs, honey badgers, and etc., all of which drove blacks crazy while being driven crazy themselves by blacks with their spears and bongos. It was an endless cycle of blacks chucking spears at wild beasts that, in turn, wanted to gore them, stomp them, or tear them to pieces. Under such circumstances, is it so surprising that blacks ended up like Tommy the Hitman Hearns, Iron Mike Tyson, and all those ghastly Negroes in the NFL?

Indeed, it’s not just the blacks. Among species that inhabit several continents, it’s usually the ones in Africa that are the craziest and most aggressive. The African elephant is bigger and more aggressive than the Asian kind. The African rhino is more aggressive than the Asian rhino. The zebra is more hyper and unruly than the wild pony outside Africa. African animals grew meaner and nastier not only because blacks drove them crazy but because they drove each other crazy. Imagine you’re a zebra and have to contend with lions, leopards, hyenas, hunting dogs, and crocodiles(every time you’re thirsty). A deer in North America had only to worry about cougars and wolves, but prey animals in Africa were surrounded or stalked by the meanest predators in the world, minus the tiger.
But such rough truth seems to be beneath Murray’s sense of dignity. But, truth is VULGAR because all living things are animals that eat, kill, and shit. Table manners are necessary for civilization, but let’s not fool ourselves about how food is procured, which is by mass bloodbath of domesticated beasts and the fish in the sea. Just like certain shock jocks on the radio spoke more truth than the so-called respectable voices, what we need is the shock scholar, or shockalor.

https://ricochet.com/podcast/powerline/a-conversation-with-charles-murray-and-steve-sailer-pt-1/
https://ricochet.com/podcast/powerline/a-conversation-with-charles-murray-and-steve-sailer-pt-2/

In the interview with cuck-maggot Steven Hayward, Charles Murray refers to some unnamed figure as a ‘white supremacist’, the kind he would rather not associate with. Now, if he means someone like Tom Metzger or Norman Lincoln Rockwell, okay. But, I suspect he means Jared Taylor or Kevin MacDonald. Or maybe David Duke, though he’s such a pariah that why would Murray even bother to acknowledge his voice? (As for the interviewer Steven Hayward, he’s a useless cuck-tard, the kind who considers Matthew Yglesias as some kind of ‘liberal’ that the Right can fruitfully engage with. This Yglesias wants to flood the US with a billion nonwhites, but he’s apparently a rational figure in the imagination of cuckservatism rooted in an inferiority complex and longing for validation from the supposedly intellectually superior and respectable ‘liberal’ community. Steve Sailer, who should know better, is so starstruck with Charles Murray, as Charlie Brown is with that perennial loser Joe Shlatbotnik, that he just plays along with the silly charade moderated by a dork.)

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Supposing Murray was referring to Jared Taylor or Kevin MacDonald, with David Duke a distant third possibility, let’s consider each case. While Taylor is certainly more strident in his views on blacks(and nonwhite immigrants, aka Diversity), his only ambition is for the defense of traditionally Western homelands. How that makes him a ‘white supremacist’ is beyond me. If anything, his weakness is shared by Murray, and it is the most supremacist element of Taylor’s worldview. Like Murray, Taylor seems to regard Jews as the natural master race, whose vision and guidance that the weaker-willed and weaker-personalitied white race cannot do without.

So, the ONE PEOPLE Taylor will never denounce are the Jews in the delusional hope that the great majority of the Tribe will one day finally see the light and come to the side of whites. It’s the secular HBD version of the Christian dream of the Conversion of the Jews. This near-veneration of Jews is a kind of supremacism, or at least ‘subremacism’ where whites subordinate themselves to the supremacism of the Jews as the natural Master Race. Murray, no less than Taylor, subscribes to such a view even though he won’t admit it. Both men must know that Jewish Power, more than any other, has been most instrumental in the rapid demise of Western Civilization in the modern era, but they refuse to name the name.

As for Kevin MacDonald, he has committed himself to naming the Jewish Power and exploring/exposing the myriad ways by which Jewish Power manipulates goyim in the service of “Is it good for the Jews?” His supposed ‘antisemitism’ is actually anti-supremacist because he’s calling out on Jewish Supremacism and its dire impact on the world, mostly on whites but others as well, such as the Palestinians.

White Nakba

Dr. David Duke is a most interesting case as he was once a part of some ludicrous KKK organization, but he’s also done most to denounce all forms of supremacism(and renounce white supremacist ideology as well), even going so far as to meet with the Arabs, Palestinians and Syrians, two peoples frequently terrorized by Jewish Supremacist hegemonism.

In contrast, Murray wrote for COMMENTARY, a brazenly Zionist-supremacist publication that consistently dismissed all Palestinian claims and complaints. Indeed, it was the kind of Neocons associated with the ideology espoused in the pages of COMMENTARY who devised the global agenda that led to so many wars, terror, mayhem, and death of innocents. David Duke spent the latter part of his career calling foul on Jewish Supremacism, whereas Charles Murray blindly served it as a token goy cuck scholar at a Neocon rag.

It could be that in Murray’s hypocritical mind, it’s ‘supremacism’ only when it’s white, never when it’s Jewish. Only a mind hopelessly colonized by Judeo-centrism could think this way. So, even a white person whose only desire is to preserve his white homeland is more ‘supremacist’ than Jews who occupy the land of another people and practice Zio-apartheid, who covet Russia and wage proxy wars against it, and use the US military as their mercenary force to smash any nation or people deemed hostile or resistant to Zion.

https://www.commentary.org/articles/charles-murray/jewish-genius/

So, whatever faults that men like Jared Taylor, Kevin MacDonald, and David Duke may possess, they are far better men than Charles Murray ever was or will be, the one who whines about ‘supremacism’ while having served the murderous and tyrannical supremacism of Jews all along.
And how has Jewish Power paid him back for his long years of service? The ‘liberal’ Jews who dominate most of the media/academia have made him out to be a crypto-Nazi, and the Neocon Jews no longer have any use for him and surely pressured the Gnat Review to ignore his latest book. Now, that is pathetic. If Murray’s so offended by supremacism, when has he expressed the slightest concern for Palestinians living under Zionist tyranny?

Now, what may be the reason for Murray’s subremacism, or subordination to Jewish Supremacism? It is his version of HBD, which gives the lie to his assertion that his findings about IQ differences have no bearing on how the various races should be treated. In the podcast, Hayward and Sailer seem to concur with what might be called a racialist humanism, i.e. even if science reveals genuine racial differences in abilities such as IQ, a decent society, which the US presumably is, would still treat everyone with dignity and on the basis of true equality premised on meritocracy(or equal opportunity). Also, even if smarter people succeed more and rise higher, it doesn’t mean that less intelligent people have less value as humans; indeed, as a matter of basic humanity, a dumb person is as deserving of life, respect, and happiness as a smart person. It all sounds good on paper, but there’s no evidence of this(except as lip-service) around the world, not least in the attitudes of Americans, including Murray himself.

After all, Murray’s obeisance to Jewish Power has everything to do with his admiration for their higher intelligence, tremendous wealth, and powerful personality. And this accounts for his complete indifference to the plight of the Palestinians with their lower IQ and achievement. And this goes for Steve Sailer as well: https://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/05/bibi-bandwagon-gains-momentum.html
“If the Israelis want to push around the Palestinians, well, I don’t really care much.”

This is rather odd given Palestinians haven’t done anything to harm the white race or the West, whereas Jews have played a pivotal role in modern times in subverting the very foundations of the West. Yet, Sailer favors Jews/Israelis over Palestinians. One group ostensibly has the right to bully and kick around another group whose plight elicits only a yawn. Why would this be? Most likely, it’s HDB’s infatuation with superiority based on intelligence and big think.

If indeed Murray and Sailer are sincere in their argument — differences in traits among races and/or groups should have no bearing on how they’re treated as human beings deserving of equal dignity — , they certainly don’t practice it in their favoritism of high-IQ, wealthy, and successful Jews over the lowly and mediocre Palestinians.
In other words, the ‘anti-racists’ have a point that an awareness of racial/group differences does in fact influence our attitudes and choices in regards to other groups. Seriously, if the average Jewish IQ were 85, with Jews being lower-earners than ever Mexicans and Puerto Ricans, would anyone really care about Jews, even if they were persecuted throughout history(and even suffered the Holocaust)?

But, the ‘anti-racists’ are also full of it because they are blind to their own biases stemming from an awareness of racial differences just the same. There’s all this talk of ‘systemic racism’ and ‘subconscious racism’, but much of it is actually in favor of Jews and blacks uber alles. For all the ‘anti-racist’ insistence that race is just a social construct and all races are virtually the same in ability and attributes, generations of whites grew up idolizing blacks as tougher in sports, louder in oratory, and more vibrant in music, and THIS has indeed impacted how they see the races and explains their favoritism of blacks. BLM is really about black-lives-matter-more because of the ‘cool’ factor. So, even when a black moron dies from actions resulting from his own thuggery, it’s billed as ANOTHER LYNCHING BY THE KKK! As for all the whites and non-blacks mauled or terrorized by blacks, just forget about it and, besides, let’s pretend the perpetrators are ‘teens’ or ‘youths’.
What this proves is that no amount of conscious ‘anti-racism’ can override the ‘subconscious racism’ that eventually builds from one’s perception of varying abilities among the races and ethnicities. All those whites who grew up with black music may consider themselves ‘liberal’ and ‘anti-racist’, but the chances are that they’re going to favor blacks over other races. It’s like Paul McCartney demonstrating his lack of ‘racism’ by saying ‘blacks are my favorite people’.

And the similar dynamic exists among the so-called Philo-Semites whose idea of rejecting prejudice and bigotry is to favor Jews uber alles. Now, if one favors Jews over others, isn’t that just another kind of prejudice? In the US, across the entire political/ideological spectrum, people often showcase as proof of their lack of prejudice by praising Jews and Israel uber alles, utterly blind to the fact that they’re partaking of the cult-worship of Jews as the True Master Race. “Heil Zion” is anti-prejudice, LOL.

‘Antisemitism’ used to mean the moral failure of treating Jews with equal dignity and consideration, but now it means the failure to place Jews upon a higher pedestal and kneel at their feet. In other words, ‘antisemitism’ is wrong against Jews, but its brand of hatred is necessary and justified against the Palestinians and any people hated by Jews, such as Russians and Iranians.
Ironically, Jews display the kind of arrogance, contempt, disgust, and hostility toward goyim that Nazi Germans once displayed toward Jews, but it gets even worse: The bulk of American goyim’s idea of being anti-bigoted is being bigoted in favor of Jews. It’s as if Jews are so great and awesome that favoring them over other groups isn’t prejudice or bigotry but a divine mandate.

Indeed, Jew-worship is one thing that both HBD and the ‘anti-racists’ have in common, as the very Democrats who denounce the likes of David Duke and Nicholas Wade(whose great sin was that Duke agreed with some of his points in the book TROUBLESOME INHERITANCE) will readily cozy up to the Zionists and denounce anyone who calls for EQUAL consideration for Jews and Palestinians.

Jared Taylor isn’t much better than Murray but still expresses a pride of whiteness and the need for white interests, what he calls ‘white advocacy’. But when push comes to shove, he is equally fearful of spelling out the obvious, namely that the main enemy of white consciousness and white liberation is Jewish Supremacist Power. He’s not a full-dog like Murray but still a half-dog.
Once again, it’s the bane of HBD’s IQ-centrism. As Jews count as white and possess the highest IQ, there’s this gushing awe laced with the hope of a magical Jewish-White Alliance, especially useful to whites as Jews come with the moral shield as the Holy Holocaust people: “How can we HBD people be ‘racist’ or ‘Anti-Semitic’ when the race of Anne Franks are on our side?” Keep dreaming.

White Consciousness and Liberation can only be realized through man-think. Whites must ask, “Are we men or are we dogs?” Nothing wrong with a dog being a dog, but man is capable of so much more. White people must want what they want regardless of Jewish approval. If Jews want to join the White Liberation and Empowerment Movement, fine, but if not, they need to go their own way. If whites want to hunt rabbits, they should just do it. Don’t look over the shoulder for approval from the Jewish Master. Only then is White Liberation possible, the only real path to freedom and power. Especially when Jews are calling on black thugs to hunt down whites and smash white monuments, whites shouldn’t need permission from Jews to go hunting and choosing their own targets.

And, it’s not enough to mention higher crime rates among blacks, which is Murray’s half-arsed shtick. The real problem is BAMMAMA or Blacks Are More Muscular And More Aggressive. Reality is race-ist, and evolution produced different races. Blacks evolved to be more muscular, more aggressive, wilder, and less inhibited. THAT is why they act the way they do, and that has been the cause of White Flight and Jew Flew from blackening areas.

But because Jewish Supremacists need to keep whites in submissive mode in servility to Zion, Jewish-run media keep concocting horror stories about ‘systemic racism’ to paralyze white folks into ‘white guilt’.
It’s rather amusing as Jewish bankers funded much of Western Imperialism and Jewish merchants played a role in the ‘genocide’ of the American Indians. Jews were also the biggest sellers of opium to the Chinese, destroying millions of lives(and recently Jews peddled opioids to the white working class, leading to the deaths of 100,000s of whites). Jewish Bolsheviks worked with Josef Stalin to kill millions of people. And of course, Jewish Power ethnically erased the Palestinians in the tragic Nakba, and the Jewish-led Wars for Israel effectively led to the ongoing Arabocaust in which over a million Arabs and/or Muslims have died. So, where is Jewish Guilt in all this? Jewish Supremacists feel NONE. Now, that is low-down, yet sucking up to Jewish Power is the highest value in currently sicko America.

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  1. Charles Murray? The guy who once worked for the CIA and probably still does.

  2. Anymike says:

    The man-dog binary may be a metaphor, but the idea it captures absolutely defines the problem. If I had a mere dime for every time I have said in some comment section somewhere to someone who had complained about minority admissions and minority hiring, you have to stop talking about takeaways from other people and learn how to say “We want” and then name what you want. Not an abstraction. Not a plea for a change in how the system operates. Something concrete and specific. Something you can name. Some that can be delivered be it a place in an academic program or a job. The other thing I like to say is that “I want nothing for me and I want nothing for everyone else too” is not much of an agenda. Nothing for everyone is never going to fly as political platform.

    The saddest thing in my eyes is how people make an issue of Ivy League admissions. What do Ivy Leage admissions have to do with you, unless you are from a certain type of upscale community? Suppose the Ivy League stopped admitting black and Hispanic applicants with significantly below average scores on the SAT and other intellectual test? Would the places thus opened up go to you, meaning high school graduates from your community? I don’t think so. In a lot of communities, having someone go the Harvard, Yale or Princeton is a once-in-a-generation event, if that. If it occurs these day, it is because some minority student with a high GPA goes to some Eastern school. The white kids still go to the flagship public research university or dear old state.

    You also have to learn how to stop listening to other people’s crybabying too. Suppose all outreach for less qualified minority students stopped at Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Well, the kids not admitted would just end up being scattered around other nevertheless toney private universities. If they’re worried about not getting the same opportunities they would if they had gone to Harvard, then do something about it.

    So can white Americans. You think your daughter should be secretary of state or a judge in the Circuit Court of Appeals someday and you think she has to go to Harvard or Yale or she’ll never make it? What are you? A man or a dog? Say something. Do something. Do something to make happen what you think is supposed to happen whether your daughter goes to Harvard or Yale or not.

    Sad also is the attitude of the masses of ordinary middle class and working class Americans. They want a system wherein, you do certain things, you get certain outcomes. No further effort required. I consider this attitude a variation on the shopkeeper mentality. The saying in Britain was, you keep your shop and your shop keeps you. Much of the American middle class and working class is descended from the European artisan class. Their mentality can be summed up in the dictum, provide for your children’s education and their education will provide for them. No further effort required

    This system no longer reliably exists if it ever did and all these people have been doing for the last five decades is walking around shellshocked mewling for its return. No, it won’t return. Further effort is required.

    You need to learn how to say, “We want.”

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  3. It’s a heyoka world, alright….upside-down, inside-out, and backwards. It’s also a virtual world-o’-hurt where domesticated Humans are trapped in a manufactured maze of interlocking feedback loops from which there is no escape so long as they remain infected with the organically-crippling “self” sickness that systematically de-natures them. This keeps them alienated and cut-off from the Natural World which engendered them in The First Place, and which still provides everything necessary to sustain them….despite the half-life condition their Condition is in.

    Disregarding all of its propaganda and P.R., and going strictly by its actual observable effects in and upon the Free Wild LivingLoving Arrangement of Earth and Sky, this “civilization” idolized by its Stockholm-syndromed, tunnel-visioned Human captives presents here as nothing but a Planet-wasting disease process. The rampant insanity among them, as chronicled daily on this site and indeed throughout the “information space” where so much of their precious attention is squandered everyday, is quintessentially symptomatic of the disease. This full-spectrum “dominance”-paradigm craziness only grows more-and-more debilitating as the process progresses deeper into its own terminal stages.

    Such heterodyne whining as is obsessively “self”-indulged-in by Jung-Freud and so many others here, over their troubles with “Jews” and “Blacks,” even as they brag-up the supposedly unique positive “racial” distinctions of beleaguered “Whites,” exposes in them levels of cognitive dysfunction that very likely explains much of those selfsame troubles. The trash-talk tone of so much of their chronic complaining also reveals the perhaps-by-now congenital immaturity of at-least the “American” sub-type of the pale-skinned Breed of Human Animals.

    It must be admitted, though, that some degree of such induced failure to fully mature is easily seen in every artifactual “one” of our domesticated Sisters and Brothers. This is yet another degenerative symptom of the “civilization” disease process affecting them….and particularly of its immune-suppression regime’s “self” sickness. They’d be smart to practice diligently those difficult disciplines necessary to get over it.

    It is by becoming consciously and conscientiously heyoka Heyokas that they will find again and feel The Way through their “self”-inflicted predicament. There’s a Ceremony for that. Us surviving Free Wild Peoples of All Kinds, here in Indian Country everywhere, could help them to perform it.

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  4. What about Stalin’s victims?

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  5. @Twin Ruler

    Whom do you mean by “Stalins victims”?

    Mostly the Commie elites count, that he purged in 1937 and was about to purge again 1948-52.

  6. anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:

  7. Murray also think we’ll have to perpetually subsidize Blacks due to their lower IQ. No, no, no, and no. If they can’t make it in our society, too bad. If their envy makes them riot, build more prisons. Problem solved!

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  8. James J. O'Meara [AKA "Peter D. Bredon"] says:

    It all comes down to man-mentality or dog-mentality. When a man believes something is right and wants it, he feels it in his bones. He grabs for it, and it’s not a matter of what others think. He prioritizes what HE feels to be right and righteous. He has autonomy, agency, and independence.

    Right from the start, as they used to say about Barry Goldwater. The “dissident right” is a bunch of shills for various patent medicines: –Traditionalism! Orthodoxy! Sede-Vacantism! Elite Theory! IQ! Evolutionary Psychology! Manosphere/PUA/Game! — all intended to allow the White Man to say “See, it’s not just my mere opinion that you shouldn’t exterminate me, I’ve got a theory that objectively PROVES it!”

    As soon as you need to PROVE why you should have a future for your children and the White race, you’ve lost.

    Politics/history is simply the battle of opinions, with the strongest held opinion winning. IF that isn’t YOUR opinion, you’ve simply had your mind taken over by someone else’s opinion.

    https://underworldamusements.com/products/the-unique-and-its-property-max-stirner?_pos=8&_sid=51bdab68a&_ss=r

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  9. It’s rather amusing as Jewish bankers funded much of Western Imperialism and Jewish merchants played a role in the ‘genocide’ of the American Indians. Jews were also the biggest sellers of opium to the Chinese, destroying millions of lives(and recently Jews peddled opioids to the white working class, leading to the deaths of 100,000s of whites). Jewish Bolsheviks worked with Josef Stalin to kill millions of people. And of course, Jewish Power ethnically erased the Palestinians in the tragic Nakba, and the Jewish-led Wars for Israel effectively led to the ongoing Arabocaust in which over a million Arabs and/or Muslims have died. So, where is Jewish Guilt in all this? Jewish Supremacists feel NONE.

    Has anyone done LESS harm to mankind than the Germans? Seriously, leave aside the Anglo/Judaic brainwashing and just count up the real numbers. Germany had a couple of colonies in Africa, IIRC, but nothing like the British Empire or the American slavocracy (which Schopenhauer condemned, using it as his standard example of why humans are such shits), to say nothing of the Soviet tyranny.

    The deaths in the world wars were entirely due to the Anglo-Jewish empire which started the wars in the first place. George Steiner (Tribesman) pinned “70 million” on the account of the mostly German writers placed in his “Roots of the Right” book series. (Those literally black-bound books were so sexy!)

    Six million, EVEN IF true, would seem a small price to pay for centuries of murderous infamy.

    Yet our entire culture (history, politics, TV/movies, etc.) has been twisted around into presenting the Anglo/Jewish Empire as representing “freedom” and “democracy” and opposing the “murderous” “sadistic” “tyrannical” Central European powers. Even the Soviet tyranny was, for a while, presented as warm-hearted Uncle Joe.

    Christopher Hitchens had a great response to the whole “England was so traumatized by WWI that the establishment bent over backwards to avoid another war” nonsense: ask Gandhi is the people running the largest world-wide empire in history were a bunch of pacifists.

    As for intellectual contributions, compare the German record of cultural enrichment with the millions of lives destroyed by Marx, Fraud and Einstein.

    • Replies: @wlindsaywheeler
  10. JPS says:

    Charles Murray isn’t Right Wing. He’s just from Iowa. Ergo he’s experienced a lifetime of culture shock and will never find the anaesthetic. However, he’s not Right, he’s just vilified as a Rightist because the people who run America use him as a kind of “messenger” to explain certain things so that the population doesn’t think all academics are batshit crazy.

    Unfortunately, ALL academics (except some of my former teachers) are crazy and I don’t think there’s anything to be done with academia except burn it to the ground.

  11. JPS says:

    Racism is real, racism is inevitable, and racism is justified. Denying racism is not going to get us anywhere.

    So long as the other races live among whites they will feel a sense of degradation and humiliation that is instinctive and cannot easily be ameliorated or overcome. Contrary to the wisdom of Stephen King, niggers don’t turn into philosophers when they get old.

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  12. @JPS

    Nay, the racism is a peculiar American issue that exists nowhere else. “Whites vs blacks” is not a thing, man, everywhere else it is Us (the Poles, or French, or Germans) against Them (the Germans, the Anglos, the Poles). Suthafricans against Nigerians, Koreans against Japanese.

    Americans are sooo retarded to think there is such thing as White. Thats why it can be exploited by certain other tribes.

    HBD folks like iSteve invent things like “White-adjanced Races”; Ann Coulter speaks of “Foundational people” (which is whites and blacks”. All this sheer nonsence just illustates an american psycho trauma and does not help.

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  13. JPS says:
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    European whites aren’t free to speak their minds and they take it out on those of us who are, because Americans took their freedom to keep the darkies out away from them. Many of them are craven cowardly weaklings who serve Uncle Sam’s Jewish wars and political correctness. Scum!

    NEWSFLASH: Americans are Europeans because TO BE “WHITE” IS TO BE EUROPEAN. That’s the real meaning of the word, you freaking moron!

    Barbara Specter: “European nations are not going to be the monolithic . . . ” (monolithic means WHITE! It doesn’t matter how many regional populations and ethnic minorities lived in a European country – as far as the kikes are concerned, Austria Hungary was MONOLITHIC because it was WHITE)

    Otherwise the niggers in your country are as “EUROPEAN” AS YOU ARE. Then again, maybe you AREN’T.

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  14. JPS says:

    A simple heuristic, whenever considering any of these “issues” that are sacred to the ruling power and therefore nominally accepted by nearly all so-called “conservatives,” is to ask yourself what would have people in 1900 said about it?

    The old history textbooks I would get when I was a kid were from about 1900. Towards the end it asked “Will the World be Europeanized?” “Will China be partitioned?” Nobody, and mean NOBODY AT ALL at that time had any serious confusion about there being white people, European people, distinct from other peoples. And the truth is NOBODY is actually confused about it today, barring perhaps some people engaged in wishful thinking about being “blancos.”

    If you are one of these people pretending to be confused about it today, it’s because you’re acting like PC trash. Nobody worthy of trust is going to pretend that the term “white” has no meaning or significance TO ALL WHITE PEOPLE.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
  15. America is going to collapse, soon enough!

  16. The Democratic Party is waging a violent Police State RACE WAR against the Native Born White American Working Class Majority……

    Tucker Carlson will never say this…

    Vivek Ramaswammy whose cock Tucker Carlson sucks will never say this…

    Pedro Gonzalez will never say this…

    Jared Taylor will never say this…

    Steve Sailer will never say this…

    And what I posted is obviously true….just listen to the comments of the retired FBI Agent..the Wop Frank Fugilieri who spews his anti white hatred on MSNBC…I really don’t like you greasy wops…..Any wops out there..?

  17. @Anymike

    Nonsense, you are just playing their failed game.

    The solution is for people to self-assort, not to say “We want.” We want basically means other people are YOUR property – same type of behavior as they have and what functions in the animal world.

    Man has a choce: leave nature and prosper, or rejoin nature and destroy modern civilization.

    • Replies: @Anymike
  18. @Fidelios Automata

    Make the punishment for ne’er do wells ten, hell, a hundred times worse than the crime.

    Also, punishment should decided by the victims, not government.

  19. The Jooish schtick is so transparently obvious – and obnoxious! – that I fail to see how anyone with even a modicum of street-smarts – and self-respect! – can possibly fall for it… time… after time… after time…. ….

    Is Whitey really that DUMB??

    • Replies: @wlindsaywheeler
  20. @James J. O'Meara

    It’s called “Judeo-Masonic-Bolshevism”. It’s an old Trad Catholic term used quite a lot back then; first it was just “Judeo-Masonry”; the term was expanded after the Russian Revolution.

    The Anglo-Jewish Empire is because the whole of the British Aristocracy and the Royal Family are Freemasons. Freemasonry is the carrier of Jewish Messianism—it is idealism that build this utopia–that is why they are called “masons”–they are builders–and the stupid Anglos think they will have power in this coming World Republic.

    It is quite evil; yes, this conspiracy started WWI and WWII and many other wars. Masons work for the Jewish Empire. The British left Catholicism and adopted wholesale Freemasonry and its Utopianism.

    Fools–Dangerous sociopathic Fools.

    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
  21. @Ivor Biggun

    “Is Whitey that dumb?”

    Why yes–the Jewish msg to people is anarchy—Do what thou wilt–there is no order, and the promise of Utopia–the Jews are like Satan–promising a goose that lays golden eggs (the Utopia) and people loose their minds over that. A book was written about that The Fire in the Minds of Men! They have the Siren call–but all it does is that they snooker people into believing pie-in-the-sky idiocy while they build their Jewish Revolutionary Authoritarianism!

    The Jewish message is quite powerful to the poor–it is Communism! Poor whitey is that dumb–that is why Communism harnesses the poor and agitates them to kill their betters–getting rid of the smart ones! Jewish Messianism is quite the program.

  22. Anymike says:
    @Drapetomaniac

    You may have your own ideas, but, respectfully, you do not understand what I am speaking of. By having a “want” list, I mean demands for jobs, career entry and school admissions. Demanding abstractions like the restoral of “merit” and such or debating the original intent of equal opportunity laws passed a lifetime ago is not relevant in today’s savage environment. You have to want things that are concrete and can be pushed across the table. Demanding takeaways from other people is not going to work. It’s just not going to happen.

    I am curious what you mean by “leave nature” and “rejoin nature”. This is not intuitive terminology.

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  23. Murray accepts JungFreud’s offer to debate. It doesn’t go well.


    Video Link

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  24. @James J. O'Meara

    That vid of the Joker—-Is what all Jews want to do with the goyim!

    That is the same story that Francis Parker Yockey described in his book, the trial of Florinsky. Florinsky was arrested I think on charges of anti-semitism. When he stood to defend himself in court, the Jewish female judge pulled out a revolver and shot him dead right there!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timofey_Florinskiy

    We don’t have rights. The Joker is a Jew; it’s about revenge. How dare you stand up to them.

  25. Charles Murray is a traditional conservative who still wants to believe in the America of “liberty and justice for all.” He can’t (for ideological reasons) recognize that the America of his dreams has been hijacked by:
    a) the deliberate agitation of anti-White political elites , and
    b) the vast chasm of genetic differences among the races.

    If Murray faced up to these realities, then he would have to deal with a situation where White people are but one faction in a multi-ethnic struggle for control of resources, education, urban spaces, etc., in an increasingly fragmented geo-political territory of North America. He, like many conservatives (and for that matter, liberals), wants to believe that he is still in control, and that all it would take is for people to read his book, have an “aha” moment, and then somehow it will all sort itself out.

    Point is, Murray wants to make the system work, with everyone pledging allegiance to Uncle Sam, two cars in every garage and a steak on every BBQ. Perhaps this could have worked when the country was still 90% White and national elites were aligned with the majority. But that world is long since gone.

    Prepare accordingly.

    • Replies: @Anymike
    , @silviosilver
  26. Anymike says:
    @Lawrence C

    Actually, whites are two, maybe three, maybe four factions and every other group is substantially one united faction. The only exception might be the Hispanics, who do have a conservative-leftist division to a degree. The only division in the Asian-American population is the division between those who know and detest communism and the liberal, on-the-make youth.

    My faction is the social realist labor-oriented conservative populism faction. The agenda is not very well developed. MAGA was an economic program. All of the other planks were missing.

  27. @Anymike

    By leave nature I mean allow people to self-assort – not be forced be someone else’s property.

    By rejoin nature I mean forego any pretense of being civilized and just be the animal that they are.

    I have a question for you. Where does anyone get the right to make up rights? Or laws? The farce that is man’s civilization is a fantasy.

    • Replies: @Anymike
  28. @Lawrence C

    Chuck the Cuck should be asked whether he recognizes the reality of Jewish ethnic allegiance; and if does recognize it, whether he believes Jews benefit from it or not; and if he believes they do benefit, why does he spurn the possibility of such benefits for himself and his own group. To a paint a picture for him, if he enjoyed those benefits, is it reasonable to think he might have avoided being cancelled left and right?

    Perhaps this could have worked when the country was still 90% White and national elites were aligned with the majority.

    Well, he’s human and it’s understandable if he has an attachment to the values of that world and to wish they could be preserved. Since that world is gone and isn’t coming back, Chuck needs to do some “facing reality” of his own.

  29. @JPS

    Poor doomed pup.

    The Austria-Hungaria was a place much hated by certain amateour painter for being non-german enough. To the point that the said painter crossed the border to join a more German Bavarian army rather than to serve in the Czhesch-Polish-Slovenian-Hungarian beautiful ethnic bouilabasse of his home country.

    As far as “kikes” were concerned, A-H was their paradise they seek to emulate everywhere they go, with some success. The Martians that built Americ are your “whites”.

  30. @JPS

    Just keep on reading. Go read a textbook from 1918 or so, how the Yellow Ally of the Civilization (a Siamese King of the day, or something similar and now forgotten) is much better for the Civilisation than the Hun Mad Brute with his Kultur.

  31. Altai3 says:

    It is his version of HBD, which gives the lie to his assertion that his findings about IQ differences have no bearing on how the various races should be treated. In the podcast, Hayward and Sailer seem to concur with what might be called a racialist humanism, i.e. even if science reveals genuine racial differences in abilities such as IQ, a decent society, which the US presumably is, would still treat everyone with dignity and on the basis of true equality premised on meritocracy(or equal opportunity). Also, even if smarter people succeed more and rise higher, it doesn’t matter that less intelligent people have less value as humans; indeed, as a matter of basic humanity, a dumb person is as deserving of life, respect, and happiness as a smart person. It all sounds good on paper, but there’s no evidence of this(except as lip-service) around the world, not least in the attitudes of Americans, including Murray himself.

    The coiner of the term “meritocracy”, Alan Fox (He didn’t mean it to be celebrated) and later more prominently Michael Dunlop Young feared just this. That when your elite is defined by whatever objective metric, then they’ll take that as a given for not just their deserving to be the elite but of their general superiority and if you should not take into account what kind of person your elite is composed of, only their ability to pass whatever general competence test you’ve devised, then you’ll create a venial elite like the aristocrats but society will have no intellectual ability to truly critique their legitimacy. That they will also tend to screw over the ‘dumbs’ and terraform the economy and society to suit them (See also Goodhart’s “Anywhere’s and Somewhere’s”. Goodhart is a left-wing version of Murray though in a lot of ways pulling his punches ignoring obvious Jewish dynamics and supposing that “territory doesn’t matter” in general he sees the logical conclusions of his views so as not to be cancelled or anger the elites he is critiquing.) and not realise they’re cutting their nose to spite their own face.

    Young’s essay which is of book length is in full pdf here.
    https://kuangaliablog.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/michael_young_the_rise_of_the_meritocracy_classbookfi.pdf


    Video Link

  32. Anymike says:
    @Drapetomaniac

    The are processes by which the types of economic, political and social organization we have in the world today have developed. I would say, most people see an advantage in living in an organized system. Even if the system is bad, they only want to change it for the better or replace it with a different one still holding sway over the same people and the same culture.

    Lose organized society and most human beings will die in not too long. Right? Well, if someone wants to live outside of the social contract, I would say, they have the right to attempt it. But organized society may come down on them if they do not get far enough away.

    Nietzsche analyzed the genealogy of morals and declared that morality was an invention of the weak, who wanted to shackle the superman. But the argument is made that what he thought of as the “superman” was some like Goethe or some other universal genius, not a villain like Lex Luthor.

    The issue of what Nietzschean individualism was came up in my master’s thesis. One of the sources I cited called the Jack London character Wolf Larsen (The Sea-Wolf) “a monster of Nietzschean individualism.” I identified the Willa Cather character Tiny Soderball (My Antonia) as a comparable type. Not exactly a monster, but a miserable and possessive loner.

    I think what I am saying is, the basic answer to your question is that there are not enough people who want it different. I suppose that means, maybe there is no right, but there is the power of the social contract and the power of human nature too.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  33. @Anymike

    Voluntary organizations, I dare say, can function better than forced organzations.

    Compare the forced organizations running the world, several hundred million killed and many many trillions of wealth stolen in the 20th century, with your interactions with your self-chosen circle of friends.

    That’s not including banning DDT, which alone caused the suffering deaths of over a hundred million people. And currently, how many will die from their clot shots?

    Have you ever ‘voluntarily’ helped any of your friends at your own expense? To me, that is being human.

    Government is the opposite.

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