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For those interested, here are my two most recent articles, which have been attracting a great deal of readership:

Here’s a long podcast interview I just did yesterday covering those same subjects and it seemed to go quite well:


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  1. Mike Tre says:

    Ron, time to shave the head and grow a goatee. then you’ll look like this:

  2. Can anyone fill me in on what’s going on in France? It seems like their own version of swamp-style disenfranchment, but I’ve been pretty disconnected recently and all I’ve seen is the MSM version of events. I know there’s more.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Brutusale
  3. anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    So … Steve ran away to Substack because he was getting ratioed in the comments here too hard?

    Steve, come back! We miss you! You weren’t being used as a punching bag. We were just teasing you!

    Actually, I’ve changed my mind. Jews really are the master race and should be entitled to both the West Bank and the privilege of ruling over us Christian Goyim in the West for the rest of time due to their really big genius Jew brains. I agree. You and Jack D were right all along.

    • LOL: Moshe Def
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Jack D
  4. Would also appreciate opinions on whether what the Trump Administration is doing with regard to students who dare to criticize zionist genocide: does this outweigh whatever good DJT has done?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-zionist-destruction-of-american-higher-education/

    Seems to me that the Establishment is up in arms because a few thousand violent criminals have been deported (or is it hundreds) to El Salvador but not so much about this. We have well over 20 million illegals…this is a drop in the bucket.

    • Agree: MGB
    • Replies: @Moshe Def
    , @MGB
    , @Curle
  5. I suppose this question by Loyalty is The First Law of Morality/[one other handle I can’t recall] is a good place to start:

    Why does Sailer hate Trump so much? As someone here said, Sailer seemed almost disappointed when he survived the attempt on his life. Sailer never expressed this much sass towards Biden or Obama. He rather liked those fellows.

    I answered:

    Trump is low-brow. Steve Sailer is a Peacetime Consigliere. He’s too high-brow, civil, and reasonable to understand that being high-brow, civil, and reasonable do not work with the enemy we have. Hey, it’s not like we haven’t tried all that, for half a century!

    A couple of comments about Dark Brandon followed, but Mike Tre wrote:”

    He’s too high-brow, civil, and reasonable to ”

    Some might call this snobby and naive.

    Good question: Does Mr. Sailer dislike “lowbrow” people, no matter how right they might be, and tailor his punditry accordingly? I bring up Marjorie Taylor Greene* a lot. She’s MAGA and she’s got the kind of spirit we could use in a couple of hundred more Congressmen and Senators. She might be considered a bit low-brow, so would Mr. Sailer not like her? (I can’t recall him bringing her up).

    More importantly, for now, why all the disdain for the MAGA crowd, Trump’s oft-nutty antics notwithstanding? How about a little credit to the President for:

    1) Putting troops on the southern border, bringing invasion numbers down BY 93% – all I know is about 7,000 a month (a few hundred a day) vs. multiple hundreds of thousands some months very recently. (Brandon tailed it off temporarily to help with the election.)

    2) Deportations started on Week 1 and are ongoing. The numbers are not good long-term ones when you’re going for 40 million, but the visibility and sob stories are a GOOD THING.

    3) Putting the hammer down on D.I.E. programs anywhere the Feral Gov’t can possibly have anything to do with it. It helps that Institutions all around are sucking on Aunt (Uncle?) Samantha’s teat. This stuff may carry over to Big Biz, but I haven’t seen that just yet in personal experience.

    4) Releasing the J-6 Political Prisoners first thing. That was an important promise. He kept it. (Coulda’ been me.)

    5) Working to clear out the Administrative State (which is NOT the Deep State – Mr. Sailer has that wrong) of ctrl-left evil ones.

    6) Pulling the US (again) out of the Paris Accords – that’s somewhat symbolic, but it shows that Trump is smart enough not to go for that very-expensive scam.

    He’s been a warmongering braggart and buffoon WHILE he’s been doing all that, but still, I give Trump-47 some credit.

    .

    * See also MTG calls out Mayorkas as the treasonous asshole he is. (Geeze, I’m starting to sound like Andrew Anglin!)

  6. I got really into your site today, Mr. Unz. (Doc says I’d better watch it.) Therefore, I will wait until tomorrow to put up that post about the old Laurence Guyenot article about JFK, Jr.‘s death, on my site.

    His was the most interesting of all the Kennedies’ unnatural deaths. Skiing into a tree, ahhhh, boring. Getting drunk and choking in one’s own vomit – not sure any of them have, YET, but we’ll be the first not to know about it. (Found a 2nd puddle of vomit behind the grassy knoll!) The one guy your average bloke would really want to have an early unnatural death, guy named Ted, whaddya’ know, he lived to a ripe old age…

    “C’est la vie”, say the old folks. It goes to show you never can tell.

    Video Link
    Any Cajun’s on the thread?

  7. Message to assorted Trump Derangement Syndrome bitches/blackpillers here:

    Fellas, gals, relax and enjoy the show.

    Our foreign ‘allies’, ‘great friends’, whatever, are getting a much-needed wake-up call. Their ‘neoliberal’ sleepwalking daze are over. E.g., handwringing and drama over the sovereignty of “postnational” Canada …

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/04/the-canada-experiment-is-this-the-worlds-first-postnational-country

    But as well as practical considerations for remaining an immigrant country, Canadians, by and large, are also philosophically predisposed to an openness that others find bewildering, even reckless. The prime minister, Justin Trudeau, articulated this when he told the New York Times Magazine that Canada could be the “first postnational state”. He added: “There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada.”

    The remark, made in October 2015, failed to cause a ripple …

    … being ‘threatened’ by a US takeover is silly—if they’re “postnational”, being annexed by the United States should be no big deal for them. (We’ll of course have to purge Canada of non-citizen “newcomers” after annexation. And ‘liberal’ citizens would be strongly encouraged to self-deport.)

    Similarly, Greenland may or may not be in the cards for actual annexation, but the aggression by Trump against Denmark (nothing personal, kid) is a fascinating test of Europe’s ‘reflex response’—if we wanted to take Greenland by force, what are they (Europe, UK) going to do about it? Can they fight a superpower if they are, like Canada, demographically “postnational” as well? Is “Europe” even real at this point? If not, who cares what they think?

    Also, domestic deportations. Imagine caring about the foreign ‘students’ getting snatched. Of course, their campus ‘counter-Semitic’ rambunctiousness has been quite entertaining (I love to see golems turn on their hosts), but no American should care if these goofballs get detained and deported.

    Trump’s overarching message, delivered in deed, to the foreign dregs of the world: Don’t come here. You have limited rights here.

    Now, if my li’l pep talk still leaves you myopic Eeyores morose, I’ll at least post some cathartic doom boom bangers to rock to as you ruminate. You’re welcome.

    SHAWDOWHOUSE — “START AGAIN”

    Video Link

    BAD//DREEMS — “COLLAPSE!”


    Video Link

  8. BtW, if my calculations are correct, this year the sacred Christian day of Easter coincides with the birthday of one A.H.

    What a propitious opportunity for the Great Deity in the Sky to arrange some kind of colossal, earth-shaking signal in response to the endless genocide in Palestine.

    But alas, no such god exists and his supposed chosen ones know this all too well.

    • Replies: @mc23
  9. This is a great talk by Sam Francis for anyone who is unfamiliar or needs a refresher. It’s worth an hour. But it is broken into chapters which is so nice.


    Video Link

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  10. BenKenobi says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Canada is not a country. It’s a whore. That opens her legs for the entire world.

    BC & Alberta can be the 51st and 52nd states, respectively. The rest can get nuked.

    • Agree: Mike Conrad
    • LOL: Mike Tre
  11. @Mike Tre

    Ron, time to shave the head and grow a goatee. then you’ll look like this:

    I don’t think so. The forehead is all wrong.

    • Disagree: Mike Tre
  12. @Mike Conrad

    All across Europe the entrenched are security “Our Democracy” they don’t mean yours.

  13. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Post nationalism won’t apply to Yiddistan of course.

  14. Ralph L says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ted almost died in a 1964 small plane crash that killed two.
    Wiki: he spent months in hospital recovering from a severe back injury, a punctured lung, broken ribs and internal bleeding

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  15. Ralph L says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I told paranoid Canadians on X that Trump offered them something half the world wants, American citizenship, yet they went completely nuts over that offer. They don’t seem to understand that we’ve never admitted unwilling states.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @epebble
  16. @Brutusale

    I wrote this to our Buzz Mohawk – who knows Romania via his better half, but after hearing about the oppression and persecution of Marine Le Pen in France, I think it’s Iron Curtain 2.0 descending over the continent. Here‘s the post. My speech to the student body of Meridian, Mississippi Community College (for extra credit) via Teams:

    From Stornaway in the northeast Atlantic to Gibraltar at the entrance to the Mediterranean, with a small cut-out for Hungary, Iron Curtain 2.0 has descended across the Continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the Woke states of Europe. Dublin, London, Paris, Munich, everybody’s talkin’ ’bout pop music .., Lisbon, Madrid, Warsaw, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Belgrade, Bucharest, Sofia and Keeve; all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Globalist sphere, and all are subject, in one form or another, not only to Globalist influence but to a very high and in some cases increasing measure of control from Brussels.

    A shadow has fallen upon the scenes so lately lighted by Cold War victory. Nobody knows what Globalist Brussels and its Totalitarian international organisation intends to do in the immediate future, or what are the limits, if any, to their expansive and prostituting tendencies.

    Plagiarism?! What? Everybody does it, the last President, the Prime Minister of Canada … what’s your problem?

  17. @Ralph L

    Thanks, Ralph. I had no idea about this story. One does wonder what would have happened with the Hart-Cellar Act has Ted Kennedy not been there to support it. I’m not sure, but I AM sure that Mary Jo Kopechne and her family would have been much happier.

    That’s not to root for things like this, but as I wrote back when Ted Kennedy died, I was only glad about it because he was still a Senator. Had he been retired then, I wouldn’t have wished ill on the guy, but if it was the only way he’d ever leave the Senate – and it was – than GOOD. Same for the bastard Juan McAmnesty.

  18. @Achmed E. Newman

    Peak Stupidiity has a much longer, in-depth look, at MTG v AOC. There’s a stark contrast between the people of their districts, the highly-urban vs mostly rural (125 x difference in pop. density) landscape, etc, and these 2 women themselves. One’s an American – the other’s really not.

    I’d forgotten some of what I wrote, but now I recall how much a traitor AOC is too, as kind of a continuation of our last thread (for Colin Wright). Just a sample:

    She recalled, “I was the only Spanish speaker, and as a result, as basically a kid – a 19-, 20-year-old kid – whenever a frantic call would come into the office because someone is looking for their husband because they have been snatched off the street by ICE, I was the one that had to pick up that phone. I was the one that had to help that person navigate that system. [Straight outta’ Wiki]

    “Snatched off the street”. Ha! We only wish.

    “I encourage everyone to get the COVID-19 vaccine. It is safe, effective, and free for all. You do not need to have health insurance and no one will ask about your immigration status,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “There is also now no appointment necessary for you to get your COVID vaccine at city-run sites, so you can just walk up. This vaccine is the first step in getting our community reopened and keeping all our loved ones safe.”

    Peak Stupidity continues:

    Corona is the neighborhood, as in the old Paul Simon song, not the old term for the disease. (Too many jokes and confusion with the cheap Mexican swill, so they dropped the term.)

    That was in April of ’21. 6 months later, in October, we could have read “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gets Pfizer booster jab” (revealing outfit in the NY Post image for this one). 3 months after that, yahoo informed us “AOC Is Latest Member of Congress to Get Sick With COVID.” Dang it all! She should have kept on her mask down in DeathSantis’ foolhardy State of Florida during that drag queen show she attended. AOC is all better now though… physically… the rest is unsalvageable.

    [Links in original]

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  19. A few news items from the former United Kingdom:

    a) the SEND disaster. Local authorities, whose funding has been reduced quite dramatically over the last Conservative decade, are finding that the cost of “special needs” education is bankrupting them. Currently more than 18% of pupils are defined as “special needs” and by law must have individual education plans.

    “A rapid rise in pupils diagnosed with autistic spectrum disorder, social, emotional and mental health needs (including ADHD), and speech, language and communication needs has fuelled a 140% increase in EHCPs between 2015 and 2024, from 240,000 to 576,000.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/mar/30/councils-england-insolvency-risk-send-costs

    Nearly 20 councils have warned publicly that they are at risk of insolvency because of multibillion-pound debts caused by years of overspends on special educational needs support, the Guardian can reveal.

    Overspending on special educational needs and disability (Send) services in England is forecast to grow by nearly £2bn over the next 12 months, a Guardian investigation shows.

    Councils will see mounting special educational needs and disabilities (Send) deficits rise by 54% on average, with some anticipating accrued debts to increase by millions of pounds every month as they struggle to cope with soaring demand.

    The long, sad history of “special needs” is too extensive to cover here – suffice it to say that in seventy years we’ve gone from separate education for “the sad and the bad” – so called “special schools” and “residential homes”, then everyone else in the state or private school system, to a vast expansion of those defined as “special needs”, along with well-meant attempts to educate as many as possible in mainstream schools – “social inclusion”, don’tcha know? Those who are “special” also get a number of goodies

    Naturally, the private sector has leapt towards this tax-funded income stream – hedge funds and private equity are funding residential SEND schools:

    One of the biggest Send budget pressures is private specialist school fees, which are typically two to three times the cost of a state school place and have led to calls for measures to curtail profiteering. The private sector has grown rapidly in recent years to meet the “overflow” from a depleted state Send sector that is full to capacity.

    Warwickshire county council budgeted last March to place 470 children in independent special schools at an average cost of £55,000 a year for each place. A few months later it revised the forecast: it was now expecting to place 556 children at an average cost of £66,000. Its estimated annual overspend on private Send provision this year is £11m.

    Cheltenham College, one of the UKs poshest public schools, is about £59k a year. Eton is “only” £63k.

    Middle-class parents have also found that being “statemented” gives your child advantages like extra time to take exams, even apparently sometimes someone else writing for you. According to the Times, one third of pupils now get extra time in exams.

    https://edumentors.co.uk/blog/how-to-qualify-for-extra-time-in-exams-uk-everything-you-need-to-know/

    Are you wondering how to qualify for extra time in exams UK? Extra time creates fairness in exams, supporting students with learning difficulties, slow processing, or mental health challenges.

    The UK before the Fall had hurtful words to describe people with learning difficulties or slow processing. They weren’t generally expected to pass exams at a great rate, but they are now. Must make it tricky for employers, who won’t know whether that Grade A was achieved in the stipulated time, or whether translators or scribes were involved.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/key-stage-2-tests-access-arrangements/2025-key-stage-2-access-arrangements-guidance

    b) (and tangentially related) the vast number of UK people with a “mental health” diagnosis. This struck me this morning listening to BBC Radio Four, what used to be the relatively highbrow talk channel, where more than half of the Woman Sour program was taken up in discussion of the case of a young woman with anorexia who was refusing to eat, and a court had decided that the medics couldn’t feed her through a tube against her will, as it would be a breach of her human rights.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nhs-refuses-force-feed-anorexic-185616309.html

    This young woman’s case has cost vast amounts in medical treatment and lawyer’s bills, you have to feel very sorry for her parents – or her family at any rate, not sure where mum and dad are.

    The family’s written submissions include increasingly panicked WhatsApp messages from Patricia in recent weeks, pleading for help.

    In a message to her aunt on Feb 28, she wrote: “I don’t want to die… I want to walk up mountains. I want to swim in the sea. I want cuddles and kisses. I want to play and have fun.

    “I’m so so scared. I’m terrified. Please help me more. WE [sic] haven’t got much time to play with. I’ll never walk if we don’t sort things now.”

    Mr Lewis explained that Patricia is so severely ill with anorexia that she “cannot distinguish between broader wishes [‘I want to live’] and the narrower ones regarding life-saving interventions [‘I don’t want nasogastric feeding’].”

    I don’t want to die but I refuse to eat anything or be fed through a tube? Hmm. An alcoholic friend didn’t want to die either, nor did he want to stop drinking. He died, God rest his soul, because they wouldn’t give him a liver transplant unless he stopped.

    I’m pretty sure there weren’t many cases like this in the Hungry Thirties. I imagine some doctors are kind and empathetic to such patients, and others prefer to work with people who are ill. I can sort of see the appeal, all that lovely attention from caring people.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2v98e39ygqo

    Former charity worker Ms Ellis had had eating disorders throughout her life, but when she was 38 she was diagnosed with a form of anorexia which caused her weight to plummet.

    At the time of her death, she had been trying to raise £200,000 to fund specialist treatment in England which she was told was not available on the NHS.

    The treatment involved a combination of cognitive and behavioural therapy as well as information on diet and body image support.

    At the inquest on Friday, her mother said that her daughter was “determined to get better and begged the eating disorders team to fund inpatient care at the Priory clinic”.

    Amy’s social media videos attracted thousands of followers.


    It strikes me we’re seeing a sort of reverse of the “Cat and Mouse” Act, where suffragettes on hunger strike in prison would be released until they recovered, then imprisoned again.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_(Temporary_Discharge_for_Ill-Health)_Act_1913

    The hunger strikers were force-fed by the prison staff, leading to a public outcry. The act allowed the prisoners temporary release when their hunger strikes began to impact their health; they then had a predetermined period of time in which to recover after which they were rearrested and taken back to prison to serve out the rest of their sentence.

    • Thanks: Mike Conrad
  20. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There is an unfortunate correlation between high intelligence and mental illnesses such as anorexia (if you notice, anorexia is not much of a problem among blacks). This woman was never going to breed anyway but I guess what we are going thru in the West (and in highly developed countries such as S. Korea in Asia) is a sort of evolutionary correction because seemingly “eugenic” breeding for high intelligence has backfired. It was a sort of hot house breeding that was good for producing ONE generation of high IQ people but not for creating a durable breed. In effect a sterile cross.

    These crosses were set up in human hot house environments like universities where high IQ men and women were put together. In the past mating would have been much more randomly distributed because there was no careful testing and sorting method where people with closely matched IQs were put in one place together.

    Combined with immigration and the higher fertility of lower IQ groups, the West is going to have a more dummified future but maybe that’s not all bad. The “smart” people seem to have f*cked things up pretty well, in accordance with Orwell’s maxim that some things are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them. Or Buckley’s quip that he would rather America be ruled by the first two thousand names in the Boston phone book than in a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University.

    The ancient Greeks would have diagnosed this poor woman’s illness as hysteria. Unless the uterus receives a frequent infusion of moisture from her husband’s sperm, it begins to wander around a female’s body and cause havoc. Maybe the physiology of this is not correct but they were not wrong. In another age this woman would have been too busy caring for her husband and children to have time to starve herself to death.

  21. @Mike Tre

    Dude, you’re totally not natty, yer not fooling anyones. Get off the juice, prevent any future full-thickness tears my dude.

  22. guest007 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One should think about what happens when some member of Moms for Liberty is elected to a school board while running on DEI, pro-homosexual books, and trans athletes. Once elected, the school board members gets to see the number of the various achievement gaps, the discipline gap, and all of the issues with retaining or hiring teachers. Those Moms for Liberty cannot BS their way out of reality and most either quit early or do not run for a second term.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  23. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ‘Also, domestic deportations. Imagine caring about the foreign ‘students’ getting snatched…’

    ‘First they came for the Communists. But I was not a Communist, so…’

    I guess if you’re confident the powers that be will always be ones who are pleased with your views, you needn’t fret. You’ll be safe.

    I can hear you now. ‘But you can’t lock me up. I didn’t do anything ille…’

    Imagine caring.

  24. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘…I’d forgotten some of what I wrote, but now I recall how much a traitor AOC is too, as kind of a continuation of our last thread (for Colin Wright)…’

    ?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  25. @Ralph L

    I told paranoid Canadians on X that Trump offered them something half the world wants, American citizenship, yet they went completely nuts over that offer. They don’t seem to understand that we’ve never admitted unwilling states.

    Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, and Tennessee come to mind.

    It would be only fair to point out to the Canadians that once in, never out.

    • Thanks: Mike Conrad
    • LOL: epebble, kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Brutusale
  26. epebble says:
    @Ralph L

    Trump offered them something

    It is not that simple. If Trump loved Canadians so much, he could have signed an EO saying any Canadian citizen can fill a DS-11 and get a U.S. passport. Many Canadians would have loved it and might have taken advantage of that generosity. Ireland and Italy (among many other countries) allow that for many U.S. citizens, and nobody has a problem with that. It is the ’51st state’ talk that they don’t like. Trump can do the same for Greenlanders without the Sturm und Drang. Imagine, conquering them with love!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Colin Wright
  27. epebble says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Don’t come here. You have limited rights here.

    There is a humane way to do that.

    1. Trump signs an EO suspending visa waiver program
    2. Signs another EO suspending issuance of all visas

    Before you know, the flood of aliens will come down and ICE can focus on border and internal enforcement.

  28. @Colin Wright

    ?

    She’s yet another traitor, in the vein of IOU*. No, we cannot deport AOC though.

    .

    * IOU = Omar Ilhan, Undocumented

  29. muggles says:
    @Colin Wright

    More fake sympathy from “Colin”.

    Who probably lives in China.

    How do they treat CCP critics on student visas there?

    I used to travel on business to foreign countries which were basically some sort of dictatorship.

    Believe me, neither I nor my colleagues ever made any public commentary about the local governments. Privately, the expats will fill us in.

    Nearly everyone now be bounced out are here shilling for some foreign mafia group (claiming to be political) which the US government has even pre-Trump labeled as a “terrorist” group.

    Citizens here may do so. Guests have a shorter leash.

    Just go to the UK and start openly criticizing gays, Muslims, Wokesters and see how long it takes to “notice” you, especially if you are vandalizing, social media posting and oh, don’t forget, blockading public schools and universities with your noisy and threatening behavor. Over matters that are occurring in places outside of the UK.

    In Mother England, even citizens there are jailed for social media posts the State doesn’t like.

    Does anyone ever hear of any pro Israel protests anywhere in a Muslim nation?

    “Best to shed your tears for Hamas in private, dearie…”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  30. @epebble

    Ireland and Italy (among many other countries) allow that for many U.S. citizens

    Italy just cracked down. Parents, yes, grandparents, maybe. But great-great-grandpa who left as a baby in 1871 won’t cut it anymore.

    Here’s a map of EU countries with such policies, NB, its three years old. Some like Italy’s may have changed in the meantime.

    Former Rep. Michele Bachmann’s husband is of Swiss parentage, and they looked into Helvetian citizenship for their children.

    Under something like Italy’s old policy, and the current ones in other lands, Elon Musk could have done an end-run around our naturalization process. Grandfather Musk was born in Minnesota.

    • Replies: @Hail
  31. @mediazzzona has now recorded the names of more than 100,000 Russian servicemen who have been killed in Ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1907439968055591094

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  32. The “my” attached to those links isn’t Steve’s. That can be confusing to someone new here.

    Speaking of Steve Sailer, Val Kilmer just passed on to the wild blue yonder yesterday. What do he and Steve have in common, along with Mike Pence, Michael Jackson, Prince Rogers Nelson, and Andrew Dice Clay, but only a small fraction of American men?

    Had Val been born a day later, he’d have belonged to a much larger group, along with Barack Obama, Michael Jordan, Tom Cruise, Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, and Muhammad Ali.

    [MORE]

    Kilmer was born on the final day of that 33-month window of birthdates which exempted men from Selective Service registration altogether.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  33. It is pretty obvious that Trump will not be satisfied with his presidency until World War III breaks out, US vs the Rest of the World.

    It will not start this week or even this month, but next year when the soccer World Cup comes to the US.

    What will set it off will be when Trump issues an executive order that he personally will be in charge of VAR, which stands for Video Assistant Referee.

    Basically Trump will be able to disallow any goals scored against the US team and award penalty kicks to the US team at will. 51% of Americans will say that this is perfectly OK, because otherwise foreign teams have an unfair advantage because they have better players.

    The cunning thing will be that millions of World Team military will arrive in the United States disguised as soccer fans, and in no time at all, several major cities in the US will be seized, and Canada will cut off the electricity,oil, and water to the northern tier of states. Suddenly all the Toyotas and Hondas in the US will explode simultaneously. Apple phones will cease to work at all except for TikTok.

    After a quick surrender, the remaining games of the World Cup will be played in Mexico and Canada.

  34. @Jack D

    ‘…because seemingly “eugenic” breeding for high intelligence has backfired. It was a sort of hot house breeding that was good for producing ONE generation of high IQ people but not for creating a durable breed. In effect a sterile cross…’

    What I am about to say will actually be kind of morbidly amusing, because I’d rather it wasn’t so, while you’d presumably be reluctant to deny it, but…

    What about Ashkenazi Jews? Haven’t they demonstrated this can work over multiple generations, at least to a limited extent?

    Now, go ahead and prove me wrong. I won’t get upset — promise.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  35. @Achmed E. Newman

    AOC has distracting curves and long dark hair but she is essentially shallow and performative.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Hail
  36. @Colin Wright

    ‘First they came for the Communists. But I was not a Communist, so…’

    I always find the lame passivity of that progressing quote formula funny. What, “they” shouldn’t come for the Communists and other undesirables? Why are you not among the “they” coming for the Communists? Who the fuck are you?

    I guess if you’re confident the powers that be

    I’m more concerned about the power that’s me (and millions of my armed friends).

    But wouldn’t you know it, among the powers that be are the three branches of government currently doing the shit I want to get done, with more to come. Meanwhile, you’re kvetching here all powerless and pathetic.

    You have a ‘victim’-fetish mentality, which is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If “they” come for you, you would go without a fight (judging by your “I can hear you now…” projection), and nothing of value would be lost.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @onetwothree
  37. @Achmed E. Newman

    JFK JR. and Hillary Clinton were eyeballing the same Senate seat. Guess who got it. HRC’s coven prepared a three day incantation and JFK Jr.’s plane crashed into the drink. That’s how the real world works, Mr. Newman.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  38. @Reg Cæsar

    Some of us didn’t need the registration to do our patriotic duty. We just went to the recruiter and subsequently barfed in a helicopter.

  39. @Jonathan Mason

    ‘…Basically Trump will be able to disallow any goals scored against the US team and award penalty kicks to the US team at will…’

    As an American, I have to admit that does sound pretty cool. The outrage at the BBC alone would make it all worthwhile.

  40. @epebble

    It is not that simple. If Trump loved Canadians so much, he could have signed an EO saying any Canadian citizen can fill a DS-11 and get a U.S. passport.

    What?

    I assumed this was going to be something like Israel’s plan for Gaza.

    We just take Canada. Not the Canadians. They can be resettled in Eritrea or someplace.

    • LOL: epebble
  41. @Joe Stalin

    But according to the NYT 700,000 Russians have been killed, mostly with American weapons and American targeting.

    More from the former United Kingdom, a comment on Starmer’s belligerence vis a vis Russia:

    https://unherd.com/2025/03/britains-defence-strategy-is-pure-cakeism/

    “It cannot help all those responsible for formulating the UK’s defence strategy in the 21st century that they do so in buildings whose high-ceilinged ornamented rooms once witnessed the deliberations of Victorian and Edwardian statesmen conducting the affairs of an empire that ruled over palm and pine and a great deal else in between.

    A more realistic view would settle on them if they were housed in portacabins in Mablethorpe and empty commercial buildings in Ramsgate.

    Instead of lunching in Westminster pubs boasting connections with Wren, they could breathe in the present condition of the country as they walk along the Mablethorpe seafront amid the closed businesses bearing faded marks of their past history, and chalets now serving as permanent housing, while trying to find a chip shop that was still trading.

    The large bins outside houses whose yards are nevertheless rubbish-strewn, and the absence of human activity even at midday, would remind the strategic planners of what resources they have to draw upon. The brave display of just hanging on in the neighbouring resorts of Chapel St Leonards and Sutton-on-Sea the extent of the capacity of resilience even in the state of peace known as the welfare state.

    Instead of walking to their place of work along central London thoroughfares where on turning a corner one can be surprised at meeting a statue of a Victorian military hero, and under classical facades displaying commercial and intellectual wealth of generations whose ghosted images only remain in Edwardian postcards, the planners had to perambulate through the desiccated Ramsgate town centre, what a sobering dose of present-day reality they would experience.

    There, among the art deco remains of the promenade garden set up by a titled lady in the 1920s that now resemble ancient Greek ruins on Sicily, the planners could join the other DFLs (Down From London) who, like the small strata of the very rich in Third World countries, are the only ones who can afford the high-end apartments now sited where the magnificent 1930s lido used to welcome hordes of holidaymakers.

    The planners could move among those they plan for; the Thanet youth whose unemployment is at 10%; the children a third of whom are defined as living in poverty; the Just-About-Managings whose pre-Covid economic fragility was increased by one third in the number of Universal Credit claims thereafter.

    Living and planning in such places, the planners would be very clear about what jealous power should want to covet such a powerful, rich, and global country.”

  42. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ‘…Meanwhile, you’re kvetching here all powerless and pathetic.

    You have a ‘victim’-fetish mentality, which is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If “they” come for you, you would go without a fight (judging by your “I can hear you now…” projection), and nothing of value would be lost.’

    And you seem to resort to random abuse when you find yourself without an argument.

  43. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    Non-Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews are among the groups that are disappearing themselves the fastest in the US.

    Something that may have worked in the past may no longer work once conditions have changed. There are certain animals that do not breed in zoos. Our whole modern Western world is a zoo.

  44. Trump announces – “we need immigration”.

  45. @muggles

    ‘More fake sympathy from “Colin”.

    Who probably lives in China.’

    You could accuse me of posting from Israel — but that would be a tad implausible, wouldn’t it?

  46. @Jack D

    ‘Non-Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews are among the groups that are disappearing themselves the fastest in the US.’

    That’s true enough; but how do you account for the previous five hundred years or whatever?

    After all, Ashkenazi numbers certainly waxed rather than waned over most of the past millenium, and unless you’re prepared to assert their average IQ only jumped within the last century, we would have a case of a population with at least a slightly elevated IQ successfully reproducing.

    …parenthetically, the Japanese also have a slightly higher IQ than average: 1o6 seems to be the current figure. What’s interesting about that is that whatever mechanism produced it, it could hardly have been the same as that driving increased IQ among the Ashkenazim.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  47. @Brutusale

    Thanks. “Kritarchy; Rule by Judges.” Same as here in the USA: a federal judge somewhere doesn’t agree with Trump on some issue, so invalidates Trump’s initiatives with immediate, nationwide effect. So much for checks & balances.

    Marine was clearly the choice of the majority of French citizens. So, naturally, she must be prevented from running for office. This we call Democracy!

    It may not be too strained an analogy to mention Tucker Carlson in this context. Not just the #1 news show on cable, the #1 cable show of any kind. Advertisers like big audiences, right? All of his corporate sponsors dropped him like a hot potato once TPTB put the focus on him. Still, he had to be fired. For what, exactly?

    DDG results for kritarchy mention its prominence in ancient Jewish law, and warn that the term is now being used by “white nationalists.” The first two results are wikipedia and the third is the Forward. Situation Normal.

  48. Brutusale says:
    @Colin Wright

    It would be only fair to point out to the Canadians that once in, never out.

    Kinda like the rest of Snow Mexico with Kaybeck. British Canada has such a death grip on Quebec that there has to be a strategic maple syrup resevre.

    Allez Parti Quebecois!

  49. I see arguments here among three or four old commenters…

    + one or two or three old defenders of everything Zionist + deep state (but that is, of course, redundant!)

    and I am discouraged.

    If I had as much interest and “Qi* as they all seem to have with regard to our treehouse discussions here now, well then, I would engage more.

    Yes, the discussions now ongoing here are worthwhile. Okay.

    Some topics that I think matter:

    • Gaza — slaughter, wiping away people. Fucking obvious.

    • Iran, preparations for war — a war for whom? A war for why?

    • Obvious enforcement, jailing, and attempted deportation — whether Constitutional or not — of permanent residents, only and emphatically when offenders criticize Israel. (I don’t fucking care what your endless, legal, armchair arguments are. It is happening because Israel and you know it!)

    Oh, I could go on, but I sit here wondering why I even do this or would…

    *Qi is energy in traditional Chinese medicine. As I’ve mentioned here before, one of my very best old girlfriends got herself a Doctor’s Degree in Traditional Chinese Medicine, and she has been operating an acupuncture and Chinese medicine practice in Boulder for years now. Personally, I think it’s all “woo,” or mostly nonsense, but we haven’t dated since 1993.

  50. Brutusale says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You’d be correct if anyone here gave a crap about futbol.


    Video Link

    • LOL: Old Prude
  51. @Buzz Mohawk

    • Obvious enforcement, jailing, and attempted deportation — whether Constitutional or not — of permanent residents, only and emphatically when offenders criticize Israel. (I don’t fucking care what your endless, legal, armchair arguments are. It is happening because Israel and you know it!)

    Nothing to add — I just thought they should have to ignore that one twice.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  52. @Corpse Tooth

    OK dude, I’m about 1/4 way through writing that post. I do know about that motive, but the guy who writes about it doesn’t understand the possible means.

    I like the coven idea, but that’s hard to prove in a court of law. I’m leaning toward the Hildabeast being one of the AntiChrists… not the BIG ONE, mind you, but one of the lesser ones … she’s a hack.

  53. @guest007

    I had to look up Moms for Liberty, Guest007. From wiki’s not-so-glowing 1st paragraph, I’ve already gained respect for the org. I’m not sure I get your point though. Do you mean that they would be surprised by the Steve-Sailer-explained real problems that make the gaps unclosable? Are you saying these people, of all Moms, would be less aware than other Moms, before becoming involved, that is?

    They don’t run against D.I.E., the pro-homo books and all that (pretty much the same anti-normal White people agenda) because they think that’ll fix the schools. They’ve got their kids in these schools and they want that shit gone. We are all paying for those Government Propaganda Camps with our tax-money, even non-parents. That’s not a good bang for the buck.

    • Replies: @guest007
  54. @Greta Handel

    Yesterday, my wife and I happened to catch, on a YouTube channel patched into our living room screen, some State Department ceremony for “Women of Courage,” some kind of award that has been given for several years now.

    Well, there were seven or eight accomplished, brave women assembled there from around the world, even one from my wife’s home country of Romania. All but one had worked courageously for years at something to help others for humane purposes, worthy of recognition.

    Okay, so one of them was a hostage of Hamas in Gaza. She is now safely returned. Other than that, she has not done anything like the years of serious work the other women have done for the betterment of other people.

    Okay, fine, so each woman was called up and received her award from the First Lady and the Secretary of State.

    Then. Then. It was announced that one of the women would now get up and speak. None of the others had this opportunity. Guess which woman had the privilege to tell her story. Well, I’m sure you can guess. It was the Israeli hostage woman.

    She was a victim, brought back safely via negotiations by others. It’s good that she is safe now, but she did nothing. She was a victim. Every other woman at that ceremony had worked at something to help people. But no, we were only allowed to listen to the words of the Israeli victim.

    Just another day in America.

  55. J.Ross says:

    What a first seventy days, it’s been fantastic.

  56. J.Ross says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Was she the same one that complained that nobody wanted to rape her?

  57. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Isn’t that similar though with non-Jewish populations, I mean, really, the only groups that are reproducing are religious (Amish, Muslims), and they are reproducing because their beliefs enable that?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  58. Trump is facing on onslaught of lawsuits by the deep state and its supporters.

    Video Link

    William Kirk breaks down the current court to show you that victory IS NOT guaranteed on the Snope and Ocean State cases. in fact, it is quite possible to lose this case, even with the current makeup of the bench. (IL folks consider courts to be rubber stamps for Dems.)

    Video Link

    William Kirk discusses the plight of Illinois residents who have been mistreated by the State government for years.

    Video Link
    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1907433056698327442
    https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1907456377796083744
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1907531462573703380

  59. @Jack D

    That was a very interesting comment and the kind of stuff Steve Sailer and commenters used to write about, as I recall.

    This thing about the uterus moving all around unless the husband (or could it be Jack D?) regularly gives, to be politie here, a hot sausage injection, is that the Greek theory or modern medicine? I really don’t know, and though I hate to be taught about the Byrds & the Bees at this age by commenter Alden, well…

    Can you help, Dear Alden?

    .

    Sincerely,

    Hysterical in Hattiesburg

    • LOL: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Ralph L
    , @Jack D
  60. @YetAnotherAnon

    She could actually have a gastric tube more or less permanently implanted in her stomach and stitched into place if she didn’t like nasogastric tube feeding.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  61. @Buzz Mohawk

    Just another day in America.

    No opportunity for propaganda is ever overlooked, by our overlords.

  62. @Buzz Mohawk

    Some topics that I think matter:

    • Gaza — slaughter, wiping away people. Fucking obvious.

    The Gazans are tough cookies, with a high birthrate. They probably aren’t going anywhere. Mutual combat between Israelis and Palestinians (especially Gazans) is an established ‘way of life’ (and death) over there. Don’t falafel about it.

    • Iran, preparations for war — a war for whom? A war for why?

    Big if true.

    • Obvious enforcement, jailing, and attempted deportation — whether Constitutional or not — of permanent residents, only and emphatically when offenders criticize Israel. (I don’t fucking care what your endless, legal, armchair arguments are. It is happening because Israel and you know it!)

    Because Israel (and also because Jewish students) is a ‘kryptonite’ pretext to upend and possibly (federally, at least) defund the major universities, using Title VI and Title IX as procedural weapons. Legally arresting students stirs the nest, as a way to test institutional response, and also tests executive plenary power relating to aliens.

    Midwits focused only on Israel don’t appreciate the elegant irony of Trump using “Israel/Jews” as a Jew-jitsu legal pretext (Titles VI, IX) to attack major seats of Jewish intellectual anti-White influence. The Ivy League and other major schools have long been a taxpayer-funded safe space for Jewish administrators and faculty to indulge and promote anti-White golems who come up with stuff like “critical race theory”. That usurped “ivory tower” is now shaking, with visible cracks in the walls.

    The October 7th attack by Hamas, the Israeli response, and domestic campus blowback has been a priceless gift to those of us Americans who care more about what’s going on in our own backyard than what’s happening in falafel land.

    Thank you both, Gaza and Israel. ❤️

    [MORE]

  63. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, there were seven or eight accomplished, brave women assembled there from around the world, even one from my wife’s home country of Romania. All but one had worked courageously for years at something to help others for humane purposes, worthy of recognition.

    I checked out the video (at State’s official YouTube channel). It’s true, the Israeli was featured as the only honoree speaker, but man oh man all the honorees were a pantheon of ugly human dysgenics. All of their ‘causes’ were about ‘addressing’ dysfunction in the shitty societies they are from. One exception: The Romanian was from the most relatable background. Probably is a vampire, though.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  64. @Buzz Mohawk

    She was a victim, brought back safely via negotiations by others. It’s good that she is safe now, but she did nothing. She was a victim.

    Right, it’s like what Trump said about McCain “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured, okay? I hate to tell you.”

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  65. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Midwits focused only on Israel don’t appreciate the elegant irony of Trump using “Israel/Jews” as a Jew-jitsu legal pretext (Titles VI, IX) to attack major seats of Jewish intellectual anti-White influence.

    “Jew-jitsu” is an inspired formulation. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  66. @Achmed E. Newman

    His was the most interesting of all the Kennedys’ unnatural deaths.

    AEN, here’s my JFK Jr. post from 2021, with maps (charts?) :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-jewish-woman-culturally-appropriates-the-black-ladies-deserve-laziness-trend/#comment-4859518 (#82)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  67. J.Ross says:

    Mounting evidence shows that Netanyahu aides have quietly been working directly or indirectly for Qatar, the country that funded Hamas as it was planning the murderous rampage of October 7.
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/podcasts/2025-03-28/ty-article-podcast/qatargate-explaining-the-scandal-that-has-netanyahu-panicked/00000195-d873-d93e-a3df-f9fb3d560000

  68. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’d say Sailer is anti-MAGA. You’ve seen commenters post about how Sailer and Charles Murray wouldn’t be caught dead having lunch with a working class white person, and I suspect that is true. Sailer likes “well-behaved” yuppie Establishment types.

    Everyone just assumed he was pro-white because he talked about race and genetics. But you can talk about those things and be as liberal or even anti-white as can be.

    I’d say Sailer hates Trump – especially the white populism it represents. So does his buddy Greg Cochran, who is posting nonstop about how bad Trump and Vance are.

  69. @kaganovitch

    Thanks. I probably saw it before in some other context. A Google search for the phrase brings up this topical book, among other things (Amazon synopsis):

    Jew Jitsu: Turning Our Enemies’ Arguments Against Them

    Paperback – September 30, 2024
    by Dmitri Shufutinsky (Author)

    The Hasbara of old is irrelevant—it’s time to use our history to dismantle anti-Zionism.

    [MORE]

    Israeli public relations are notoriously lackluster. For years, the promotion of the Start-Up Nation and invention of the cherry tomato were used as tactics of advocating for and supporting Israel. In modern times, liberal Zionists play up Israel’s democratic values and Tel Aviv pride to defend it against “pinkwashing,” while conservative Zionists have justified Israel’s right to exist by pointing to the Holocaust and the Bible. None of these methods have succeeded in preventing or stopping the assault by far-left, woke ideology against Zionism, Jewish identity, or the aboriginal status of the Jews to their homeland: Israel. It’s time for a strategic shift in combating anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

    In this Zionist manifesto, journalist, Israel Defense Forces veteran, and scholar Dmitri Shufutinsky unpacks how Zionist advocacy has gotten to this precarious point and outlines a new method for discrediting the feeble ideology behind much of the rising anti-Semitism in supposedly enlightened spaces. Jew Jitsu: Turning Our Enemies’ Arguments Against Them will inform confounded pro-Israel advocates and donors on the current situation plaguing educational institutions; highlight the Neo-Marxist and Islamist ideology leading this campaign; and give Jewish students and their allies the tools they need to rid academia and progressive movements of this pseudo-historical and bigoted movement’s appeal.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  70. epebble says:

    Something lighthearted in the middle of all the serious stuff:

    US tariffs take aim everywhere, including uninhabited islands
    Washington (AFP) – The world’s remotest corners couldn’t hide from US President Donald Trump’s global tariffs onslaught Wednesday — even the uninhabited Heard and McDonald Islands.

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250402-us-tariffs-take-aim-everywhere-including-uninhabited-islands

    What could have happened is, someone inserted the list of locales from CIA factbook database or some such and set the default tariffs to 10% for everywhere, before changing it to higher figures for big trading countries. No one checked if the locales are populated and/or engaged in trade.

  71. Ralph L says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s from Freud and Jocelyn Elders.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  72. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Boy, this exchange is revealing:

    Buzz Mohawk (#52): “All but one had worked courageously for years at something to help others for humane purposes, worthy of recognition.”

    Jenner Ickham Errican (#61): “[A]ll the honorees were a pantheon of ugly human dysgenics. All of their ‘causes’ were about ‘addressing’ dysfunction in the shitty societies they are from.”

    But no more than your trusttheplan whitewash in #60.

    The Establishment depends on Americans who will distract and lie to themselves, too. Sailer figured out years ago how to make it pay.

  73. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It’s your turn of phrase, but the book you found seems to me pretty much the same context.

    “[J]ournalist, Israel Defense Forces veteran, and scholar Dmitri Shufutinsky” is exploiting the antipathy among self-identifying conservatives for “far-left, woke … Neo-Marxist ideology” and associating those scare words with “anti-Zionis[m]” and “Islamist theology.” That’s what is happening before our eyes, including on this thread. People are openly rooting for Marco Rubio and goons grabbing a woman off the street for writing an antiwar op-ed in the context of university governance.

    And would it surprise you if there’s a complementary book by another scholarly journalist and IDF veteran telling progressives what they want to fear and associating that with anti-Zionism and Islam, too?

    Your delusion that Trump is now dissembling and will someday vindicate Q by standing up straight and tall changes nothing about how distract & divide propaganda works.

  74. Mark G. says:
    @Colin Wright

    “the Japanese also have a slightly higher IQ than average”

    NE Asians tend to have higher visuo-spatial IQ while Whites and Jews have higher verbal IQ. NE Asians may have spent a lot of time chucking spears at animals out on the frozen Arctic tundra while Jews and Whites urbanized sooner, or various other environmental factors may be involved.

    There used to be a critical reading section on the SAT, the one part of the test Whites did better than Asians on, but that was eventually eliminated. I have noticed when arguing with Asians that they tend to be statistics nerds but have trouble understanding abstract philosophical concepts expressed verbally. For example, some Whites can write the Declaration of Independance and other Whites can understand it, but Asians can have trouble understanding the ideas in it.

  75. Over at another of Ron’s threads they’re having another one of those silly but highly entertaining debates about who wrote Shakespeare — apparently it couldn’t possibly be a prep-school educated UMC country lad who had a massive chip on his shoulder about his persecuted gubmint-bankrupted parents and his shotgun wife, so who ran away from home and found a new life in the London theater; no, that story makes no sense whatsoever, it must have been a conspiracy of Francis Bacon and his Rosicrucian notables, who never worked in the theater but somehow were experts about all the backstage jargon.

    I got lost a long time ago, I have no idea what they’re blithering about. Apparently now some lawyer I never heard of now wrote Shakespeare, because who else could conjure up the make-believe, fairy-tale legal logic of the Merchant of Venice.

    You got me.

    Meantime, the best critic of Herman Melville I ever knew was a stripper in Austin TX who had run away from home in Gary IND, and she had no degree or academic credentials, she just really liked Herman Melville, and I sat around in strip clubs arguing with her about Moby Dick and Bartleby and we had a grand time, and neither of us is ever going to get an honorary doctorate from Temple University, because who would do that.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  76. Hail says: • Website

    The arc of history bends towards Steve Sailer’s closet. Sailer points to this week’s order to invalidate “Race is Not Real” ideology at the Smithsonian:

    NYT: “Taking Aim at Smithsonian, Trump Wades Into Race and Biology”

    “His executive order faulted an exhibit which ‘promotes the view that race is not a biological reality but a social construct,’ a widely held position in the scientific community.”

    by Steve Sailer
    April 01, 2025

    While there has been a vibe shift in the more nimble spheres of discourse, in the marble museums of our culture, thinking about race hasn’t moved on at all from the hysteria of June 2020. Thus, from the New York Times’ news section:

    Taking Aim at Smithsonian, Trump Wades Into Race and Biology

    His executive order faulted an exhibit which “promotes the view that race is not a biological reality but a social construct,” a widely held position in the scientific community.

    By Zachary Small

    Zachary Small is a Times reporter writing about the art world’s relationship to money, politics and technology.

    March 31, 2025, 6:39 p.m. ET

    When President Trump issued an executive order claiming that the Smithsonian Institution had “come under the influence of a divisive, race-centered ideology,” he singled out a sculpture exhibition at the Smithsonian American Art Museum in Washington.

    The exhibition, called “The Shape of Power: Stories of Race and American Sculpture,” explores how, for more than 200 years, sculpture has both shaped and reflected attitudes about race in the United States.

    The president’s order noted, among other things, that the show “promotes the view that race is not a biological reality but a social construct, stating ‘Race is a human invention.’”

    In interviews, several scholars questioned why the executive order appeared to take issue with that view, which is now broadly held. Samuel J. Redman, a history professor at University of Massachusetts Amherst who has written about scientific racism, said that “the executive order is troubling and out of step with the current consensus.” He added that pseudoscientific attempts to create a hierarchy of races with white people at the top were seen “in places like Nazi Germany or within the eugenics movement.” […]

    “Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation,” the statement reads. “Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or racial genetic clusters.”

    Race is, of course, about who your ancestors are.

    Of course, we’ve had huge advances in the 21st century in DNA scans since DNA entrepreneur Craig Venter more or less socially constructed the Race Does Not Exist conventional wisdom in his speech at the 2000 White House Human Genome project ceremony. Now, if you have four grandparents from one place, such as Provence, commercial race science firms like Ancestry[-dot-]Com and 23andMe can usually nail their average location down to within a hundred miles or so, much less just get correct the continent.

    Of course, before mass migration, you could pretty much do the same just by looking at people. As recently as the 2002 World Cup, anthropologist Dienekes could overlay photos of World Cup and other national teams to get a sense of what the indigenous people of each European country look like on average.

    [Paywall.]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/nyt-taking-aim-at-smithsonian-trump

    • Thanks: muggles
    • Replies: @res
  77. Hail says: • Website

    Still energized by the “Sailer Was Right” memorandum sent to the Smithsonian this week, Steve asks on “Steve Sailer Dot Substack”:

    Why is Wokeness against Heredity, in theory, but supportive Hair, in theory and in fact (loves, celebrates, champions women’s hair and hair types, which is hereditary)?

    The feminist plank of Wokeness is clearly behind this; a feminization of discourse would inevitably go this way. (Note: Sailer first used the term “World War Hair” in August 2019; it has been a regular part of his output since then.)

    Sailer points to two 2010s-era specimens still swinging away here in the mid-2020s: “Hair Stories” curators Yolanda Wisher (black) and Aubree Penney (a white fatness-positivity advocate), both appearing this coming week at a Smithsonian event that will celebrate Hair Diversity:

    World War Hair at the Smithsonian

    Race does not exist biologically, except, of course, when it comes to the world’s most important topic: women’s hair.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 1, 2025

    As I pointed out in [“NYT: ‘Taking Aim at Smithsonian, Trump Wades Into Race and Biology’,” April 1, 2025,] the Trump White House has released an executive order entitled “RESTORING TRUTH AND SANITY TO AMERICAN HISTORY” featuring complaints about shows put on at the Smithsonian Institution:

    Once widely respected as a symbol of American excellence and a global icon of cultural achievement, the Smithsonian Institution has, in recent years, come under the influence of a divisive, race-centered ideology. This shift has promoted narratives that portray American and Western values as inherently harmful and oppressive. For example, the Smithsonian American Art Museum today features “The Shape of Power: Stories of Race and American Sculpture,” an exhibit representing that “[s]ocieties including the United States have used race to establish and maintain systems of power, privilege, and disenfranchisement.” The exhibit further claims that “sculpture has been a powerful tool in promoting scientific racism” and promotes the view that race is not a biological reality but a social construct, stating “Race is a human invention.”

    In response, this led to tut-tutting that everybody who has been to college now knows that race does not exist biologically.

    The one exception to the unreality of biological race, of course, is, according to numerous women intellectuals, women’s hair. Women’s hair is absolutely biological, apparently, and, hence, all existing culture must be overturned to value some races’ hair more highly than at present. Or something.

    Hence, upcoming at the Smithsonian American Art Museum is yet another battlefield in World War Hair:

    The Shape of Power Conversation with Monument Lab: Hair Stories

    Thursday, April 10, 2025, 5:30 – 7pm EDT

    SOLD OUT

    SAAM has partnered with Monument Lab, a nonprofit public art, history, and design studio based in Philadelphia, for an engaging series of guided conversations about The Shape of Power exhibition. In each of the three events, Monument Lab curators Yolanda Wisher and Aubree Penney will focus on specific artworks to illustrate ideas and spark dialogue. This program will unravel the intersections of race, culture, and identity as reflected in the power of hair to shape our perceptions of style, beauty, and resistance.


    Yolanda Wisher is a black poetess who sings and recites her poetry (which “focuses on the experience of being African-American”) in front of a jazz band called Yolanda Wisher and the Afroeaters. It’s not the worst stuff I ever heard, but it appears they aren’t quite good enough to make it in the highly competitive music business, so instead they play the big endowment art museum circuit, like the clip above recorded at Philadelphia’s Barnes Foundation. The high culture world is very much a who-you-know business, so it’s for people who like networking and writing grant proposals more than making music.

    But, in general, Ms. Wisher seems less obnoxious than Ms. Penney.

    From AubreePenney.com:

    Aubree Penney (b. 1990, US) is a fat, disabled Memphis-raised, Dallas-based curator, artist, writer, and project manager.

    Her work addresses power dynamics in art display, confronting the impossibility of neutrality or equity in institutional structures.

    Her curatorial practice is grounded in the disruption of museums’ prioritization of well and able bodies through both architectural and digital structure and installation strategy. [….]

    I presume [Aubrey Penney] is white or she would have listed her Pokemon points for being nonwhite. Being white, she appears feel the career-need to be more hate-filled toward whites than the black lady does.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/world-war-hair-at-the-smithsonian

  78. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer says LLMs (“AI”) is unreliable for data-crunching research. In Sailer’s recent experience, AI makes things up (“hallucinates”) to a degree that is catchable by any halfway knowledgeable person paying attention. It makes both small mistakes and big mistakes.

    If using these kinds of LLMs marketed as AIs for your work, you’d have to either: manually check everything (making the “AI assistance” amount to a longer task, ironically), or, give up on accuracy, abandoning exactitude to the cruel seas of autogenerated, plausible-seeming, quasi-infotainment. AI is, in Sailer’s opinion, of questionable value in a world where data matters (and where reputations for accuracy and factuality matter):

    A question about AI

    Is there some subscription AI service that won’t just make up wrong data?

    Steve Sailer
    by April 01, 2025

    I’m finally fooling around with artificial intelligence, namely ChatGPT 4o. Its parent company, OpenAI, was yesterday valued at $300 billion, so it ought to be pretty trustworthy, right?

    My experience with primitive AI goes back to 1985, but I finally decided it wasn’t going to be big in my lifetime.

    Was I ever wrong.

    On the other hand …

    It’s pretty amazing these days at understanding what you type and responding with readable, coherent prose.

    It seems useful for writing bureaucratic texts, something, fortunately, that I don’t have to do very often.

    Still, I’m not terribly interested in machine-generated prose. I’ve always been pretty interested in different intellectual voices, the way most people over the last century like the fact that there are different singing voices.

    But, what I want to use it for instead is scraping large amounts of data for my statistical analyses. I’ll do the writing if it can conveniently organize the data into a format I can paste into a spreadsheet.

    I’m an old guy from the era when coding, like SAS (which I used in 1981-82), was going out of fashion and the future was spreadsheets. Then, decades later, the future reversed itself and everybody who wanted to work with data had to learn R or the like. But I’m too old to put in the effort to learn to code again in a new language. So, I was hoping to have AI do the boring work of organizing data into formats that I can paste into a spreadsheet for doing my analyses.

    For example, to answer the question [Substack version] of whether pitching is really 90% of baseball, I started out by asking ChatGPT 4o to list the top ten baseball players in 2024 by Baseball Reference’s Wins Above Replacement metric. It responded:

    But then I noticed that it got two of the teams wrong: Chris Sale pitched for the Boston Red Sox in the American League in 2023, but in 2024, he won the Cy Young Award for the Atlanta Braves in the National League. Similarly, Juan Soto played for the San Diego Padres in the NL in 2023, but in 2024 he went to the World Series with the New York Yankees of the AL.

    Those are not obscure facts.

    Admittedly, the great majority of people are not interested in baseball statistics. But, still, there are probably 8 digits worth of people who are, perhaps more than any other specific type of data.

    And, looking at the table some more, it’s clear that ChatGPT completely botched the bottom 6 of the top ten. Soto, for instance, did not have 5.9 WAR, he had 7.9 WAR. Here’s Baseball Reference’s top 10 players, pitcher or position, for 2024:

    So, ChatGPT 4o skipped the bottom six of the actual MLB top ten, then put in a bunch of pitchers, and made up a lower WAR for Soto, who is perhaps the highest paid player in baseball this year.

    And it made a bunch of more minor errors like pitcher Tarik Skubal had, according to Baseball Reference, a 6.4 WAR instead of a 6.3 WAR.

    And it may have made up WARs to the second decimal place for four players, since BR only reports them to one decimal place.

    Hence, for my purposes, ChatGPT seems pretty useless. I’d have to check each data point over by hand, which would be slower than the way I’ve been getting data off the Internet since the previous millennium.

    This is not to say that ChatGPT 4o is useless for other things. But that’s an unacceptably low level of data quality to risk my reputation upon.

    So, I wound up copying and pasting data for several hours from Baseball Reference into my spreadsheet, same as I’ve always done.

    Here’s my question: is there an artificial intelligence service that won’t make endless mistakes like these? Is there something I can pay money to and trust the output?

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/a-question-about-ai

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    , @Dmon
  79. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer, in his latest essay (“What should be done about college admissions?“), identifies five major distortions in the U.S. college-admissions process as of the 2020s. These distortions were introduced — or (at least) became particularly serious, acute problems — in the first-quarter of the 21st century,

    A U.S.-college-admission system basically oriented towards mid-20th-century White America was “gamed” by different sets of opportunists. The combined pressures undermined a lot of what remained, by the 1990s, of moral-clarity as regards to the purpose of education and the Western tradition of fair-play, and the entire “elite college” system. (As to whether that system is a good thing or not, Sailer passes on that question.)

    The distortions:

    (1.) The usual anti-White race-ideologues pushed for, and got, a turbocharging of (already existing) anti-White race-quotas, reaching comic proportions by ca.2020;

    (2.) Asians, both foreign and domestic, steadily “gamed” a system that was created by and for White Northwest-Europeans. This includes with test-prep culture, cheating (both hard and soft forms), and an entire array of gamifications of the system This includes mass-applications, applying to dozens of colleges rather than one or a small handful as in the past. It has made college-application “culture” to the median interested White teenager of the 2000s-2020s increasingly unrecognizable to that known by White 20th-century applicants;

    (3.) Too much sports;

    (4.) Grade inflation at high-schools making GPA less valuable a measure than before;

    (5.) The turn-away, for a few years, from standardized testing.

    Steve says that fixing this system along Sailerian lines would not be hard, once the authorities face up to the problems:

    What should be done about college admissions?

    Colleges have gotten worse at identifying the best applicants since 1995. This wouldn’t be hard to fix.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 01, 2025

    Besides being April Fools’ Day, April 1st is the the day when we hear from all the high school seniors with 1590 SAT scores and 4.37 GPAs who got rejected by all 27 colleges they applied to, from MIT to Wayne State.

    One obvious problem is that it has become harder for kids to stand out just because they are smart and hard-working.

    In this post, I’m not going to delve into the deeper questions about whether America should have a pyramidical system of colleges ranked by prestige, largely driven by endowment size, with H-Y-P-S at the top. After all, Canadians don’t worry much about which college they go to, and Canada seems like an OK country Canada delenda est!

    Instead, I’m just going to focus on some simple reforms that could make the current system work better at identifying the highest potential applicants, the way it did in the later 20th Century.

    There are several main reasons for this worsening failure of college admissions to find the academically best applicants.

    First: because of increases in the number of applicants, both nominal and real.

    [MORE]

    Nominal: The introduction of the online Common App made it much easier to apply to numerous colleges, so it’s not uncommon to see students apply to a dozen or two dozen colleges now.

    Real: Today there are far more applicants to elite U.S. colleges from overseas, and the big increase in Asians in America has helped change the culture toward making more Americans want to get into famous colleges.

    Second, the number of people getting in for non-academic reasons probably went up.

    For example, colleges have long favored jocks, both in the revenue sports like football and basketball, and in non-revenue sports like squash. The latter appears to be because elite colleges’ minor sport athletes tend to go into finance and other well-paid careers, make a lot of money, and some of them are quite generous toward the old school.

    Now, though, colleges have to have roughly as many female as male athletes. I doubt if women athletes write as many big checks to the old school as male athletes do on average (women tend to be more practical and less nostalgic than men). But are admissions’ departments allowed to take that into consideration and not give as much extra credit to women athletes?

    I don’t know. The relationship between who is likely to donate and who is likely to get admitted is something that colleges have no doubt studied intensely, but they have also kept their findings under wraps. I’ve been asking about it for years, but I’ve never seen a Raj Chetty-style paper on the subject spilling the beans.

    Also, affirmative action got inflated during the Great Awokening, with ultra schools going from about 8% black to 14% black.

    And there wasn’t much evidence as of 2024 that colleges other than MIT were taking the Supreme Court’s 2023 decision seriously. We’ll see late this year if elite colleges feel like they ought to obey the Supreme Court on their second try.

    MIT’s 2023 freshman class, for instance, was 15% black, which is obviously ridiculous, when if MIT wasn’t using affirmative action, its freshman class would likely be around 1% black. But then after the Supreme Court’s abolition of racial preferences in the summer of 2023, MIT reduced its black share to a more reasonable compromise of 5% in 2024. In contrast, Harvard’s black share in 2023 was 14%. Then, after the Supreme Court decision, Harvard announced that they had chanced their methodology so they instead let in 18% blacks in 2023 but only 14% in 2024.

    Finally, the inputs into college admissions decisions, such as high school GPA and test scores, have gotten highly inflated over the years.

    At the lower end, there’s been a big push to flunk out fewer high school kids. The National Center for Education Statistics reports:

    In school year 2021–22, the U.S. average adjusted cohort graduation rate (ACGR) for public high school students was 87 percent, 7 percentage points higher than a decade earlier.

    So, the flunkout/dropout rate went down from 20% to 13% in a decade.

    Giving fewer F’s at the bottom means giving fewer B’s and more A’s near the top.

    Also, many high schools have informally switched from an A/B/C/D/F grading scale to an A/A-/B+/B/C grading scale.

    At the top, there has been a big expansion in taking Advanced Placement courses in high school, which award an extra GPA point (e.g., a B in the course counts as a 4 rather than a 3 for GPA, and an A counts as 5 rather than a 4), although a University of California study found that only awarding a half of GPA point would better predict college performance.

    The most self-destructive step taken by colleges was of course going to test-optional (or, in the case of the University of California, test-forbidden) during covid/George Floyd. That’s going away, with MIT in the lead, but not fully yet. The U. of California still forbids students from sending in test scores.

    SAT and ACT tests have considerably inflated their scores as well. Back in 1991, only nine students in the country got a perfect 1600 on the SAT. Current estimates are in the 500+ range for perfect scores on the SAT and several thousand annually for a perfect 36 on the AC[T].

    Also, more students take the tests multiple times and/or take both the SAT and ACT. (Only the highest score counts.)

    And test prep has gotten much more intensive as Tiger Mothers flock in from parts of the world that have been engaging in intensive test prep for millennia.

    Here are some fixes for high end college admissions:

    [Paywall.]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/what-should-be-done-about-college

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    , @Ed
  80. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Richard B. Spencer responds to Steve Sailer’s proposal to reform the elite-college-admissions system along Meritocracy lines:

    I’m ambivalent about the “meritocracy” that conservatives say they want in the Ivy League. Harvard and Yale could fill entire classes with boring, shallow test-takers, all of whom want to be lawyers or investment bankers—but at what cost? Who would produce photography or theater on campus? Who would play sports? Who would, dare I say, throw fun parties?

    For a century, colleges have been seeking out “well-rounded students” or at least “well rounded student bodies” with lots of different interesting people on campus. The goal is to produce a better nation, not give a skillful test-taker a leg up in getting a promotion. I agree that affirmative-action has run its course, but “meritocracy” is not the solution.

  81. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer points to news of a Black-on-White homicide at a Texas high school to say, TV-show scriptwriters and purveyors have got the race-and-violence topic all wrong:

    Frisco stabbing proves “Adolescence” is a documentary

    Can you guess the stabber and stabbee at a Frisco, TX track meet?

    by Steve Sailer
    April 02, 2025

    If you’ve been watching the hit Netflix series Adolescence [see also: Substack version], you know what teen stabbers look like:

    By the way, sports-crazed Frisco, TX, a fast-growing exurb-becoming-suburb north of Dallas, has the highest black and Hispanic school achievement test scores and the smallest white-black gap in the country. The stabber and stabbee were teammates on the high school football squad.

    The victim died in his identical twin’s arms.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/frisco-stabbing-proves-adolescence

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  82. @Jack D

    “Something that may have worked in the past may no longer work once conditions have changed. There are certain animals that do not breed in zoos. Our whole modern Western world is a zoo.”

    You’re very likely correct about that. It reminded me of a book my biology teacher in high school discussed many years ago. IIRC it was written by Isaac Asimov and was called The Human Zoo. I will have to look that one up and try to find time to read it.

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  83. Pericles says:
    @Hail

    Here’s my question: is there an artificial intelligence service that won’t make endless mistakes like these? Is there something I can pay money to and trust the output?

    If there is one, it’s probably Wolfram Alpha or perhaps Wolfram GPT.

    https://www.wolframalpha.com/

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  84. @Hail

    Back in the mid-90s there used to be a (print) newsletter called the Rothbard-Rockwell Report. (In fact, Ron Paul later was point-and-sputtered by the MSM for writing an article for it.)

    Anyhow, Murray Rothbard wrote an article for it called “Clintonian Ugly.” It was one of the better invectives I had seen up to that point. Always better to laugh at our enemies, I suppose. Your post here reminded me of that article. It’s uncomfortable to realize just how dangerous a group of fugly, resentful misfits can be if they have even a modicum of intelligence and access to the levers of power.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @emil nikola richard
  85. Moshe Def says:
    @Mike Conrad

    >with regard to students who dare to criticize zionist genocide
    1) Hopefully, sets a precedent on getting rid of foreign troublemakers
    2) Shut it down, Morty, THE SOYIM KNOW!!

  86. guest007 says:
    @Hail

    The writer and producer of Adolescence wanted to play the father. Thus the murderer needed to be white.

  87. guest007 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually their kids are usually in second tier, non-college prep religious private schools (to avoid the trans, gay, and non-white kids).

    The issue is that the Moms for Liberty do not care about public schools and just want to act on their pet issues without realizing what being a school board member really means. That is why you get Moms of Liberty blaming the white/black achievement gap on genetics or black culture but blaming the male/female achievement gap on bigoted female teachers.

    • Replies: @res
  88. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer remembers physical-anthropologist Ralph Holloway (one of the few in the later decades of the 20th century who did not heed the taboo against racial-anthropology, which feel more-or-less into place soon after 1945 and only began to be rediscovered in the 2000s Internet era):

    When did skulls become racist and icky?

    Reading a generous NYT obituary for the great skull anthropologist Ralph Holloway is a window into the less anti-science past.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 03, 2025

    In recent years, media opinion has turned sharply against the study of human skulls as being icky. And racist.

    And icky.

    It wasn’t always this way. […]

    You can see this from the New York Times’ highly positive obituary for physical anthropologist Ralph Holloway, the leading skull scientist of the late 20th Century. I suspect it was mostly written about 15 or 20 years ago, before most of the Great Dumbing Down:

    Ralph Holloway, Anthropologist Who Studied Brain’s Evolution, Dies at 90

    It wasn’t the size of human brains that distinguished people from apes, he theorized, but the way they were organized. He found a creative way to prove it.

    By Adam Nossiter

    April 2, 2025

    Ralph Holloway, an anthropologist who pioneered the idea that changes in brain structure, and not just size, were critical in the evolution of humans, died on March 12 at his home in Manhattan. He was 90.

    His death was announced by Columbia University’s anthropology department, where he taught for nearly 50 years.

    Mr. Holloway’s contrarian idea was that it wasn’t necessarily the big brains of humans that distinguished them from apes or primitive ancestors. Rather, it was the way human brains were organized.

    Brains from several million years ago don’t exist. But Dr. Holloway’s singular focus on casts of the interiors of skull fossils, which he usually made out of latex, allowed him to override this hurdle. …

    Of course, cultural anthropologists were already trying to cancel physical anthropologists from the 1960s onward:

    Dr. Holloway was in some respects a traditional anthropologist, committed to what the discipline once called the “four fields” of anthropology: archaeology and cultural, biological and linguistic anthropology. But that multidisciplinary approach has long fallen out of favor, with biologists increasingly pushed aside.

    “I was quickly isolated and marginalized at Columbia, and remain so,” he wrote in 2008.

    He was further isolated when he defended the educational psychologist Arthur R. Jensen, remembered for a deeply contested 1969 Harvard Educational Review article positing a genetic explanation for a divergence in I.Q. scores between Black and white people. One fellow anthropologist called him a “racist,” Dr. Holloway wrote, after “I had the temerity to defend Arthur Jensen” from an “assertion that Jensen was a bigot.” Some who knew him said the charge was deeply unfair.

    One nice thing about newspapers writing obituaries years before (hopefully) they need to run them is that they are less polluted by recent fads.

    Hence, when James D. Watson, now 96, dies, the New York Times obituary will hopefully largely consist of text written before he got cancelled in 2007 for noting the IQ difference between the races.

    Then again, maybe the NYT’s obituary of James D. Watson will be rewritten by American Studies major Amy Harmon…

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/when-did-skulls-become-racist-and

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
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  89. Brutusale says:
    @Jack D

    Yeah, my friends’ kids are a sign of that. My three closest Jewish friends have a collective seven children, and only one married a Jew.

    He gets extra credit, though, as she’s an Israeli doctor!

  90. Has anyone noticed how anti-white K-Pop is? You occasionally see other races in K-Pop videos but you almost never see whites. Casting a white person in a K-Pop video seems to be practically forbidden.

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  91. @Mark G.

    For example, some Whites can write the Declaration of Independance and other Whites can understand it, but Asians can have trouble understanding the ideas in it.

    And other Whites know how to correctly spell the Declaration of Independence!!

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  92. @Mark G.

    NE Asians tend to have higher visuo-spatial IQ while Whites and Jews have higher verbal IQ. NE Asians may have spent a lot of time chucking spears at animals out on the frozen Arctic tundra while Jews and Whites urbanized sooner, or various other environmental factors may be involved.

    Indeed, for chapter & verse see “The Ice Bomb: the Story of the Third Reich’s Daring Attempt to Harness the Power of Inuit Physics”.

    • LOL: Jack D
  93. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    and neither of us is ever going to get an honorary doctorate from Temple University, because who would do that.

    You mean grant it or receive it?

  94. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Mutual combat between Israelis and Palestinians (especially Gazans) is an established ‘way of life’ (and death) over there. Don’t falafel about it.

    What I falafel about is that “my” government (with my tax money!) is facilitating the slaughter in front of the whole world. It is a shameful activity that is damaging the reputation of my country and my people. Just as Israel can never again claim victimhood, never again scream, muh, Holocaust!, America cannot now pretend to hold the moral high ground.

    I don’t really give a damn what happens in the Middle East, which is why my opinions in that regard have long been isolationist. The US is part of the ‘way of life’ that you imply is the norm there; our nation has been facilitating that way of life for decades. Mutual combat between Israelis and Palestinians didn’t happen before Israel existed. Zionists planted their flag there and manipulated the West into saluting it, dragging us all down into the toilet with them. Terrorism (both real and false flag) on our soil and in our skies was the result. You and I have paid the price and watched the resulting security state be erected around us.

    Midwits focused only on Israel don’t appreciate the elegant irony of Trump…

    First of all, it is generally midwits who throw the term midwit around to denigrate intelligent people they disagree with. Second, it is the real midwits who simplemindedly get happy about specifics while ignoring the general, more important issues. Your imagined Jew-jistsu” is really just “Jew.”

    There are tens of millions of people I want deported from my country, but what is happening is a show by a showman, both to get you excited and to placate a foreign power that has far too much power in our homeland. Woo hoo, some brown people are getting kicked out, and the president is sticking it to the colleges!, while the real work isn’t getting done and our principles are being thrown out the window. I don’t care for student protestors, but enforcement of law has been highly selective, and there is a real pall falling over speech in the one country that is supposed to stand for freedom.

    • Agree: Mark G.
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  95. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    (Reposted from my comment at SteveSailer.net):

    Some notes and thoughts on the anthropologist Ralph Holloway’s “place in history,” with a word on the interesting pairing at Columbia, in the mid-1960s, of Holloway (a White-Protestant) and Stephen Jay Gould (Jewish), both young scholars there at the time but representing such different visions of the Study of Man and out approaches to it:

    _____________

    RALPH HOLLOWAY
    – born, Feb 1935, in Philadelphia, “to Ralph Holloway, who was in the insurance business, and Marguerite (Grugan) Holloway, a secretary. He attended high school in Philadelphia […] He later moved with his family to Albuquerque…”;
    – 1956: Drexel Institute of Technology, Co-op Program in Metallurgical Engineering;
    – 1959: BA, Geology and Engineering, University of New Mexico;
    – May 1964: PhD, Anthropology, University of California at Berkeley;
    – ca. Summer 1964? Hired by Columbia University;
    – By 1969, he was “isolated and marginalized at Columbia” (by his account) but went on producing great work;
    – May 2003: Retired from teaching at Columbia University.

    _____________

    I ask, first of all: How possible would a “Ralph Holloway” [b.1935] be, if born seventy years later (i.e., a non-elite U.S. White-male, born 2000s)? Or fifty years later (same, born 1980s)? Or even just thirty years later (same, born 1960s)?

    [MORE]

    Ralph Holloway ended up excelling in his field. He was clearly well suited and adept. An exemplar of the classic USA in many respects. Holloway didn’t have any sort of particularly elite start, to believe his biography. Even if not poor, also note elite. But he went from obscurity and New Mexico to a Columbia professorship. (I ask in passing: How much money did his parents spend on test-prep, and other gamings of the “college-admissions system”? Is that number “zero”?)

    The system treated Ralph Holloway FAIRLY, along the way, I think is the way to render it. Institutions identified him as adept and talented, smart, useful, potentially a great contributor. At the critical points — such as Berkeley taking him in, around 1959; or Columbia University hiring him, in 1964 — there were openings, possibilities.

    Meanwhile (so to speak), huge numbers of Ralph Holloways in later-born decadal cohorts, in the USA and beyond, have been blocked, blocked out of “their own” institutions. That’s the tradeoff with the USA’s racial-favoritism policy (i.e., it is not cost-less or victim-less to affirmative-action someone up the ranks, you just never see the victims and cannot identify them).

    “The Great Dumbing Down” is a new Sailerism to me. It aligns with the passing of few decades of policies, norms, and institutional cultures (and even pop-culture) discouraging or outright preventing new Ralph Holloways from emerging. Isolating, marginalizing mew Ralph Holloways in ways more absolute and cruel than Ralph Holloway’s own marginalization (whatever, exactly, it was). It’s not down to an absolute level of zero, of course, but with far-worse probabilities of percolating up, than were available in the mid-20th century.

    Ralph Holloway himself saw an early element of the Great Blocking-Off (to coin a term based on one of my previous sentence’s wordings), with his characterization of himself as “isolated and marginalized” by the late 1960s. Maybe so, but remember that he’d been hired in the first place (in 1964)!

    Ralph Holloway shares much more in common, it seems to me, with classic pre-1945 racial-anthropologists like Carleton Coon; and with classic American types found commonly all throughout the 18th- and 19th-century and most of the 20th-century. He had to adapt to the late-20th-century dispensation, but remained basically of the classic type. The American White-Protestant tradition that basically oriented itself around inquiry and drive for knowledge rather than politicized storytelling.

    The late-20th century, alas, belongs not to such men as Holloway and others of that 19th-century type. The late-20th century belongs, rather, to such people as Stephen Jay Gould (1941-2002). Gould, incidentally, was a PhD student at Columbia, 1963-1967. The two overlapped: Most of Gould’s tenure as a PhD-candidate at Columbia overlapping with Ralph Holloway’s (early) time there as a professor. What an interesting study in the divergence of American elite-academia in the middle and later decades of the 20th century.

    I wonder if Stephen Jay Gould’s “The Mismeasure of Man” (1981), which was an agenda-setting excoriation against racial-anthropology and “HBD.” The influence of that book, and others like it, over the half-century between ca.1965-2015 is enormous. A lot of that which came to be called Wokeness draws from these ideas. And it’s not too much to say that the book was an indirect attack on Ralph Holloway himself, who of course was still very active in the 1980s.

    In 2011, Ralph Holloway co-published a paper that refuted Gould: “The Mismeasure of Science: Stephen Jay Gould versus Samuel George Morton on Skulls and Bias”

    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001071

    In the wider culture, or political culture, Gould won and Holloway lost. At least for a long while. It’s not clear what comes out the other end of this strange-so-far decade of the 2020s. How fully undermined, in 2025, is the late-20th-century consensus about Race and physical anthropology (that both are supposedly pseudosciences and vaguely evil)? What will it by in 2035? We’d like to think Holloway Defeats Gould in the longer run, well before their 100th birthdays. It’s jhard to guess how much power Wokeness still has in it.

  96. Hail says: • Website
    @Corpse Tooth

    AOC…is essentially…performative.

    Can you elaborate on what you mean by the word “performative” here?

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  97. Hail says: • Website
    @deep anonymous

    Is there somewhere online hosting “Rothbard-Rockwell Report” archives?

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    , @res
  98. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The name hysteria is derived from the Greek word hystera which means uterus. In the earliest known treatise dealing with the complaint—Kahun papyrus dating from about 1900 BC—it is attributed to starvation or displacement of the uterus. This theory is repeated by Hippocrates, Plato, Celsus, Arataeus, and Soranus. Galen of Pergamon (AD 129-99) denied the ability of the uterus to move about but agreed that the common factor in most cases was some uterine affection…..

    This sexual theory held on through Augustine and throughout the Dark Ages until the 13th century, when it began to be replaced by the theory of demoniacal possession leading to treatment by exorcism and finally to torture

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/488986#:~:text=The%20name%20hysteria%20is%20derived,Celsus%2C%20Arataeus%2C%20and%20Soranus.

    This shows you that novel theories do not always represent actual “progress”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  99. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    IDK whether it is similar or worse. Colin was the one who said that Ashkenazis were not affected and either way he is wrong.

  100. @kaganovitch

    I wouldn’t belittle the woman the way Trump did McCain, and I’m glad she was rescued. It probably did take courage just to hold on until she got out. She is an innocent victim; McCain was a scoundrel.

    I was simply noticing the obvious privilege and special treatment given to the Israeli over all others. I’m sure it was done not only because our government constantly kisses Zionist ass, but also because it was a timely opportunity to remind us all that Israel is the most important country in the world and that its people are Victims of never-ending persecution who need our support to continue.

    Re John McCain: Even my father, a naval officer and Republican, didn’t like him. Dad wasn’t happy when the party nominated the former POW for the presidential race. His words were basically, “Meh, he got himself shot down.” That’s harsh.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  101. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The whole idea of “moral high ground” is bullshit. It’s a fairy tale for children and not something adults should be indulging in. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. America is a great country. It did not lose the “moral high ground” when it brought people in chains from Africa and treated them as chattels. The Declaration is real, it is not a BS document despite this. America did not lose the moral high ground when it vaporized hundreds of thousands of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It had good and sufficient reasons for doing so. Supplying any number of weapons to Israel (or to the Saudis or any number of not very nice regimes) will not deprive America of the “moral high ground” because this ground does not exist any more than Valhalla exists.

    As far as deporting Muslim agitators vs. other sorts of illegal and troublesome aliens, you gotta start somewhere. It’s a heck of a lot better than Biden who wasn’t willing to deport a single soul.

    Antisemites have been wanting to take the “victim card” away from the Jews from the moment the crematoria cooled off. Maybe the Holocaust didn’t happen at all? So they will always have fresh bullshit reasons as to why “Israel can never again claim victimhood”. People should consider the source of the people making these claims.

    The world loves Jews so long as they are victims but not the moment that they fight back. What would the American response have been if the Mexicans launched a cross border raid and murdered 1,200 Americans and raped and kidnapped a couple of hundred more? Would we have treated the Mexicans with love and kindness and in strict accordance with the impossible rules of “human rights advocates” or would we have blasted the shit out of whoever did this so they would never do it again?

  102. @Jack D

    My words were:

    America cannot now pretend to hold the moral high ground.

    If our country has pretended in the past, this current sin makes it even harder to pretend.

    As for your hackneyed list of past American abuses, the implication is that now it is okay to condone and assist another atrocity because bad things were done a few times in the past.

    “People of the jury, I tell you my client may have aided and abetted the murderer of the victim, but that is okay because he himself has murdered before!”

    Jack, do you just sit around waiting with a hair trigger to serve Israel and Jews the second you smell even the slightest whiff of anything critical of them or critical of assistance to them?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  103. Mark G. says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I will start checking my spelling for you before I post my comments when you start paying me to comment here.

  104. @Pericles

    Ask Wolfram alpha AI why negroes have bad IQ test scores. Go for it.

    (By the way the NSA has a row in your file they increment every time you type about negro IQ test scores on your computer or mention negro IQ test scores around your phone mic.)

    • Replies: @Pericles
  105. @deep anonymous

    The Daily Mail had a photo of Lena Denham giving a speech yesterday. It appears she has been on a steady diet of Coca Cola, Frito Lay, and McDonald’s products since the last time they posted her photo. She is probably now fatter than the max value you can now display on the Body Mass Index Visualizer tool.

    Lizzo land.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @deep anonymous
  106. res says:
    @Hail

    “Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation,” the statement reads. “Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or racial genetic clusters.”

    Now let’s try applying that criteria to every other somewhat simplified presentation in the museum.

  107. Mark G. says:
    @Hail

    “Is there somewhere online hosting the Rothbard-Rockwell Report archives?”

    It looks like Ron Unz has them here.

    https://www.unz.com/print/RothbardRockwellReport/

    They are also available in book form, titled “Irrepressible Rothbard” at Amazon.

    I had a subscription while they were coming out, being a big fan of Rothbard. Lew Rockwell later went on to start lewrockwell.com. The internet has done a lot to help get out the message of the value of a free market economy, non-interventionist foreign policy and limited government.

  108. @Jack D

    As far as deporting Muslim agitators vs. other sorts of illegal and troublesome aliens, you gotta start somewhere. It’s a heck of a lot better than Biden who wasn’t willing to deport a single soul.

    The difficulty is that the ‘Muslim agitators’ aren’t illegal — but we are attempting to deport them. At the same time, we are not really getting going on deporting the actual illegals.

    Antisemites have been wanting to take the “victim card” away from the Jews from the moment the crematoria cooled off.

    You can have your victim card — but how does it confer on you the right to commit crimes against still others? And worse, why should we tolerate you bamboozling us into supporting those crimes?

    Notice how you are led into supporting a series of almost absurdly indefensible propositions. Doesn’t this bother you at all?

    • Replies: @muggles
  109. res says:
    @Hail

    See this book.
    https://cdn.mises.org/The%20Irrepressible%20Rothbard_2.pdf

    Clintonian Ugly chapter starts on page 395. That specific essay starts on page 403.

    • Thanks: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @Hail
  110. Hail says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Passport shopping” strikes me as morally wrong. Even if able to “loophole” through it legally in certain cases, it’s still wrong to do take steps to become a citizen of a country you have not lived in and have no meaningful ties to. The process often involves people taking advantage of open institutions and rules meant that are as they are to facilitate the way for people who really need them.

    Passport shopping: I would include in the category most of the relatively quick-‘n’-easy citizenships (by world standards) by people such as Asian immigrants in the USA. People who are not Americans in any meaningful sense but grab the passport for strategic reasons. An affront to the concept of citizenship.

    Certain cases are really outright fraud — few, people if any, would truly defend Birth Tourism, for one.

    Some types of person are more willing than others to engage in Passport Shopping. Some cultures think fraud is okay as long as you’re not caught.

    The U.S. Men’s national soccer team roster has on it a goalie named Matt Turner. Early in his career, Matt Turner engaged in the worst sort of passport-shopping, from a moral point-of-view, from a dignity-and-meaning-of-citizenship point-of-view. The Matt Turner case, in being so egregious, is a good example of the phenomenon writ-large.

    The story: Matt Turner, who is Jewish, has a distant ancestral connection to Lithuania. (Original family-name: Turvoski.) As a young man, as he was contemplating a pro soccer career, Turner passport-shopped his way into becoming a dual-citizen with Lithuania. (He could add Israel to his passport-shopping cart, easy, to become a triple-citizen.)

    Matt Turner grabbed this extra passport despite zero ties to Lithuania. The story is a little crazu: He didn’t even know he had such a connection to Lithuania until he uncovered some old documents, he says, and discovered a grandparent had been from there. Matt Turner himself had no contact with Lithuanian culture and had never even been to Lithuania! Amazingly, he had still not even once set foot in the country even after receiving his “citizenship.” After receiving his dual-citizen passport, he vaguely told a U.S. sports journalist that he sure would like to visit the country of Lithuania, “some day.” The country which had just granted him citizenship!

    Matt Turner’s grab of this alt-citizenship was solely to advance his career. As a “European citizen,” he’d be better placed to be recruited to European soccer (football) teams.

    Is this absurd story a “victimless crime”? What harm does it to Joe Palooka from the outskirts of Vilnius, if a citizenship-certificate is handed out to some soccer-crazed New York bozo who had a Jewish grandparent who’d once lived in Lithuania?

    Is it the same as the victimless-crime Birth Tourism from wealthy Asians? The people who do that are from the ethically-flexible, always-elbowing-for-advantage, lying-and-cheating cultures, which are often good at charming people. What harm is there, to White family in Peoria, if a few million crafty PRC-Chinese grab extra “U.S. passports” via Birth Tourism?

    The victim is the meaning of citizenship. If it’s all so easily game-able by crafty cosmpolitans, and/or the ethically flexible — and switching citizenships is treated like switching credit-cards to get a slightly better rate — we all lose.

    (To glance at the facts of the Matt Turner case, by the way, is to reach one’s hand down into the wellspring of classic European anti-Semitism, I think. Variants of the Matt Turner case were, frankly speaking, the modus operandi of Jews in much of Europe for a long time. Not all Jews everywhere always, but lots of them in lots of places some of the time. The taking advantage of local naivete, or good-will, or relative openness, with zero interest in contributing to “the commons” but perfect willingness to take from the commons for self-benefit. Intellectual and ethical traditions do differ between civilizations. Sympathizers with the historical European Jews would say it was the local rulers’ faults, or the like, for not running a right ship.)

    Here is my profile of Matt Turner written in 2022, along with the ethnic-ancestral profiles of the rest of the U.S. Men’s National Team:

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2022/11/19/world-cup-2022-racial-national-origins-of-team-usa/#turner

    Quote:

    [MORE]

    MATT TURNER

    Ethnic-national ancestry: Jewish, with partial European-Christian ancestry.

    Raised in the New York City area, Matt Turner (original family surname: Turvoski) embraces the prestige attendant to his Jewish identity in the United States. He has said he grew up celebrating both Jewish and Christian holidays as his mother is of Catholic origin, but Matt Turner and his father are said to have sought Lithuanian citizenship, and surprisingly(?) easily at that, in recent years. Lithuania is the area in Europe to which they trace their Jewish ancestry. Extra passport, secured.

    Matt Turner told a sports journalist in 2020 that “in the process of cleaning out his now late grandfather’s house, he stumbled upon his great grandmother’s emigration papers from Lithuania. She fled from religious persecution during World War II,” which gave him the idea to apply for dual-citizenship. “During” World War II? Hmm. No time to probe that one here. In any case, that happened in late 2015 or 2016, and the lightbulb went off in in either the mind of Matt Turner (then in his early twenties) or his father. The process was completed by late 2020. Matt Turner is today a “dual citizen” via his Jewish ancestry in Lithuania.

    Does Matt Turner have any organic connection to the country or culture or people of Lithuania? Does he speak Lithuanian? I’d be shocked if so. Soon after he acquired Lithuanian ‘citizenship,’ a reporter asked Matt Turner if had ever been to the country of Lithuania. Matt Turner breezily told the reporter “No,” but promised to “eventually” pay a visit to the country. (Asking for a friend: Is that “chutzpah”?)

    (Relatively, the humor site “Jew Or Not a Jew” profiled Matt Turner in late 2020 soon after word that he about the dual citizenship acquisition affair.)

    I’m sorry Matt Turner fans, but this whole Lithuanian passport business rubs one as a cynical case of ‘instrumental citizenship’ (i.e., passport shopping), the pursuit and relatively easy acquisition of which undermines the concept of citizenship. As a social-cultural-political phenomenon, this phenomenon is certainly not limited to elite sports players — a long story, if you’ve like to get into it, for another time.

    While still on the subject, the whole ‘instrumental citizenship’ is surprisingly (?) common on Team USA-2022. Even just among the three goalkeepers on the roster, at least two are dual-citizens (Sean Johnson, USA plus Jamaica; the US-born-and-raised Matt Turner a newly minted “Lithuanian citizen” who has never been to Lithuania). The third, Ethan Horvath, could probably easily acquire Hungarian citizenship if he wanted it. Interesting…

    _______________

    Summary: Goalkeepers

    Of the three goalkeepers on the roster:

    1 White-Christian (Horvath);
    1 Jewish (Turner, half-Jewish by ancestry; dual-citizen via Jewish ancestry);
    1 Black (Johnson, of Jamaican origin).
    Note: Turner is likely to play goalie through the entire tournament.

    — Of the three goalkeepers’ aggregate ancestry, the share that was resident the USA one century ago is believed to be: about 33% (half of Horvath’s, half of Turner’s, none of Johnson’s).

    — Players whose ancestors were all (or nearly all) in the USA one century ago: 0 of 3.

    — Players with (at least arguably) weak, dubious, or trivial ties to the USA: zero extreme cases. Two moderate cases (Turner, Johnson).

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2022/11/19/world-cup-2022-racial-national-origins-of-team-usa/#turner

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  111. @Mark G.

    ‘…There used to be a critical reading section on the SAT, the one part of the test Whites did better than Asians on, but that was eventually eliminated. I have noticed when arguing with Asians that they tend to be statistics nerds but have trouble understanding abstract philosophical concepts expressed verbally…’

    That may simply owe more to a greater familiarity with English than to any genetic difference. If I prove better than Jack at spotting trout in a stream, does this suggest that gentiles have greater visual acuity than Jews — or simply that I’ve done a lot more trout fishing than he?

    Unless the difference is truly impressive, I’d put my money on cultural factors. Were the philosophical concepts in question Western ones to begin with?

  112. @res

    The Naked Ape. I read it 45 years ago in my log cabin, partly by kerosine lamp. It’s a good one.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  113. @Jack D

    The world loves Jews so long as they are victims but not the moment that they fight back. What would the American response have been if the Mexicans launched a cross border raid and murdered 1,200 Americans and raped and kidnapped a couple of hundred more? Would we have treated the Mexicans with love and kindness and in strict accordance with the impossible rules of “human rights advocates” or would we have blasted the shit out of whoever did this so they would never do it again?

    Shall I explore the flaws in this analogy? We can start with where the border is, and the past history of it: how many of the ‘Mexicans’ are descended from inhabitants of America that we drove into Mexico to begin with?

    Or how many times had we ourselves invaded ‘Mexico’? How many ‘Mexicans’ had we killed in just the year that they finally struck back? Had we invaded Mexico in 1956, 1967, 2008, 2014? For how many years did we occupy Mexico? How many Mexicans had we shot down when they tried protesting at the wall?

    Now, shall we go into HOW we waged war in Mexico? The deliberate attacks on concentrations of civilians? The open exhortations to kill women and children? The songs of rejoicing over the slaughter we were wreaking? The incessant lies and cruelties? The wallowing in forms of torture other peoples wouldn’t even conceive of?

    Now we can move on to the various successive agreements and commitments we made concerning ‘Mexico,’ the terms we agreed to when we received ‘America…’

    And now finally, your expectation that we support these crimes, that we crush all attempts to even protest them?

    I really wonder: could this become more vile? What depths are you planning to plumb next? I mean, my imagination genuinely fails me. Help me out here, Jack…

  114. @Buzz Mohawk

    Woo hoo, some brown people are getting kicked out, and the president is sticking it to the colleges!, while the real work isn’t getting done and our principles are being thrown out the window.

    Once again, nothing to add — another one from you that bears repeating because it will be ignored or deflected.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  115. Hail says: • Website
    @res

    Also re-hosted by Ron Unz, as pointed out above by Mark G.:

    https://www.unz.com/print/RothbardRockwellReport-1994may-00005/

    CLINTONIAN UGLY
    by Murray N. Rothbard
    [in the May 1994 issue of “The Rothbard-Rockwell Report”]

    I have to face it: My loathing of the Clintons and their Administration is so intense that it has become absolute, unbounded, almost cosmic in its grandeur…

  116. res says:
    @guest007

    That is why you get Moms of Liberty blaming the white/black achievement gap on genetics or black culture but blaming the male/female achievement gap on bigoted female teachers.

    Which M-F gap are they discussing? The grades gap with females doing better is probably largely due to the feminization of schooling (roughly what they say IMHO). The test scores gap with males doing better (at least at the high end, more larger SD than higher mean, though both in play) is probably more genetics.

    • Replies: @guest007
  117. Hail says: • Website
    @emil nikola richard

    On Lena Dunham’s Place in History

    I’ve never been able to remember why I’m supposed to remember the name “Lena Dunham.” I know Steve Sailer has mentioned her name many times since she emerged into fame in or about the early 2010s.

    Looking back in the archives, I find Steve Sailer first mentioned her name in April 2012 (“Lesley Arfin: The Witch Hunt for the Young Female John Derbyshire”).

    Lena Dunham was, in 2012, mixed up in a highly forgettable Mini Race Panic, related to a tv-show she was involved with (Girls). The source of the controversy: There were no Nonwhites on the show! Is this Racism? What is to be done? No Nonwhites? How could this happen?!

    These critics, though, were really thrown into a rage when a writer for Lena Dunham’s tv-show, a woman named Lesley Argin, mocked the controversy with a facetious comment: “What really bothered me most about Precious [a then-recent movie with an all-Black cast] was that there was no representation of ME.”

    A flurry of articles soon came out with titles like “Lesley Arfin, John Derbyshire, Vice, Taki Magazine, and the Lingering Cultural Capital of Racism.” (This was the spring of 2012, a cool thirteen years ago. It was a few weeks after the death of Trayvon Martin, whose death later inspired the Black Lives Matter movement.)

    Steve Sailer commented:
    “It’s fascinating how in this Age of Point ‘n’ Sputter, this Era of Not Getting the Joke, how much pride some of these people take in being humorless buffoons.”

    Commenter candid_observer wrote at the isteve blogspot at the time:

    All these young women self-appointed Joe McCarthys are no doubt looking at Lena Dunham and her bizarre, groundless, over-the-top fame, and asking themselves, what does she have that I’ve don’t have?

    The answer, of course, is nothing — which is what they all have.

    And so, as young competitive females are wont to do, they find a way to dish. And nothing dishes these days like an accusation of racism — which can never be trumped up, because it’s always there, being the Original Sin of Whiteness.

    Candid_observer, thanks! Your efforts, lo those thirteen years ago, were not for naught. You have conveyed to us, via message-in-a-bottle left adrift on the digital sea, the essence of the Lena Dunham mystery. She was famous for being famous. A product of the Wokeness era herself, in part; and of the digital era. Her own politics are standard-issue Wokeness, so the controversy was a little strange from the start.

    The kind of moral panic seen there in spring 2012 was quite familiar for the rest of the decade; and relatively familiar, if less frenzied, for decades prior.

    Sailer commented on the Lena Dunham “Whiteness crisis” several more times in the spring of 2012: “Roots of ‘Girls’ Whiteness Crisis: ‘Tiny Furniture’,” “No Sign Yet of ‘Girls’ Whiteness Crisis Abating,” “Latest Girl Racist: Zooey Deschanel,” “The 2012 Whiteness Crisis and the Race-Riot Card,” and “Signs “Girls” Whiteness Crisis Abating” all between late-April and late-May 2012. He took great interest in it because of what it seemed to symbolize for the state of racial politics.

    A lot of people in the 2020s breezily claim Wokeness emerged from nowhere in the early-mid 2010s. In fact, plenty of people identified all its core components in 2012, evident inter alia during the responses to the Lena Dunham “Whiteness” crisis.

    Sailer took occasional interest in the ongoing work of Lena Dunham in the years after her debut, before she became obese, then got thin, then got obese again. Sailer’s final entry about Lena Dunham is titled: “Lena Dunham Not Levantine Enough for the Woke,” dated October 2018. (Lena Dunham is herself half-Jewish but “presents” as full White-Christian, or post-Christian).

    In that final post on Lena Dunham of the 2010s (Oct 2018), Sailer wrote:

    [T]he now omnipresent pejorative “whiteness” may have first swum into my ken in early 2012 involving Lena Dunham’s TV show Girls.

    The first signs of the mental breakdown in liberal America that became broadly visible in 2013 started to become noticeable in early 2012 […]

  118. @Buzz Mohawk

    The Naked Ape. I read it 45 years ago in my log cabin, partly by kerosine lamp. It’s a good one.

    I would give it two panda thumbs down.

    Morris was selling establishment serving science wrapped up in a complete bullshit labcoat of objectivity.

    He and writers like Gould knew full well as to what they were doing which is to undermine Christian creationism while keeping the race taboo.

    It’s the liberal establishment underpants gnome theory on race:

    1. Well you see all these evolutionary changes in the past so creationism probably isn’t correct
    2. (???????)
    3. And so the science has determined that race doesn’t exist..cause not enough time or something…look White people are just assholes that held everyone back…just go with it…ok? Stop asking questions. We got all the scientists and we have decided. The science has spoken. Race isn’t real…except maybe in sports…medicine…that’s it. No more questions.

  119. @John Johnson

    I don’t remember any race denial in the book, but it has been 45 years.

    What I do remember is interesting takes on our animal side, for example how human sexuality is different from that of other animals and primates and perhaps has contributed to the increase of human intelligence.

    It was a fun read at a time and place that for me was perfect for reading many books.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  120. @Buzz Mohawk

    I wouldn’t call it race denial. It was total race avoidance which is in servitude to the liberal order.

    Such books may be interesting by they have a political angle which amounts to:

    Look at all these evolutionary changes in nature and humans…..but let’s avoid race.

    I get that the guy has to make a living but establishment science is anti-White at the core and he is serving their goals.

    The liberal academic establishment wants to undermine Christianity (but not Islam) while maintaining the liberal religious belief that race is just painty color from a long period of human biology. A long period where the rules of biology just happen to not apply fully to humans for about 80k. Well isn’t that convenient. Oh and since race doesn’t exist that means White men are to blame for everything and you can’t ask questions.

    Writers like Morris knowingly serve that order. It isn’t by chance that he wrote about Whale bones instead of African vs European medical differences.

    Well I am White and I am sick of this establishment bullshit. They’re intentionally deceiving students while pretending to be objectively studying human evolution. They have no choice but to lie about race and blame White people….and really we mean White men. The alternative for them unpalpable.

  121. Hail says: • Website

    AMERICA’s ASTONISHING ACT OF SELF-HARM

    Trump’s tariffs will upend the global economic order and tarnish US prosperity

    By The Financial Times Editorial Board
    April 3, 2025

    If it endures, Donald Trump’s decision on April 2 2025 to enact sweeping “reciprocal” tariffs on US trade partners will go down as one of the greatest acts of self-harm in American economic history. They will wreak untold damage on households, businesses and financial markets across the world, upending a global economic order that America benefited from and helped to create.

    [MORE]

    The president spoke brazenly from the Rose Garden at the White House on Wednesday, delivering a protectionist agenda well beyond most analysts’ worst-case scenarios. Within a week, the US will be enclosed by a minimum 10 per cent tariff wall on all imports, reinforced by hefty individualised duties on nations with sizeable US trade deficits. These build on levies already announced by the administration, including on China, Mexico, Canada and the auto industry. The combined effect will lift America’s effective tariff rate to its highest in over a century.

    Trump’s justification hinges on a naive belief that treats trade imbalances as if they were the profit and loss account of a business, and not the culmination of highly specialised supply chains. He also considers factory work to be the fount of economic development, ignoring how decades of free trade has enabled America to rise up the industrial value chain and become a global leader in services and innovation.

    His “reciprocal” levies amount to a back-of-the-envelope calculation. They take trade partners’ US trade deficit in goods as a share of imports from that country, and then divide it by two. This is not a calibrated attempt to equalise tariff and non-tariff barriers facing US exporters, perceived or otherwise. It is, however, a reckless repudiation of all trade agreements the US has signed, as well as a deeply flawed plan to attract foreign manufacturing investment.

    For the US economy, the most immediate effects of Trump’s actions will be to raise inflation and slow economic activity. Capital Economics reckons Trump’s tariff blitz could push US annual inflation above 4 per cent by the end of the year, heaping further pain on households that have suffered from a 20 per cent rise in prices since the pandemic. Interest rates may now stay higher for longer.

    American businesses should be shell-shocked. They face the costly and complex task of finding domestic suppliers. The prospect of sectoral tariffs and retaliatory measures, alongside the administration’s slapdash approach to policymaking, will hinder investment plans and any chance of sparking a manufacturing renaissance. Financial markets are volatile too. The S&P 500 and the US dollar plunged in early trading on Thursday. Confidence in US economic exceptionalism continues to evaporate.

    As for those most reliant on selling goods into the US, the economic downsides of Trump’s tariffs will be substantial. Decades of progress in poverty reduction across south-east Asia, in particular, is now at risk. Sluggish growth in major economies, including the EU, Japan and China, will be compounded.

    The temptation to retaliate will be strong. But this moment calls for cooler heads. Trump has promised to fight fire with fire. Policymakers must carefully weigh their next moves. Instead, America’s now shut-out trade partners ought to focus on expediting free trade initiatives among themselves. After all, the US accounts for just 13 per cent of global goods imports, and with the exception of those in the White House, the economic imperative of comparative advantage continues to be widely understood.

    This was no “liberation day” for America. If Trump gets his way, the US economy will be isolated from the very system that has powered its century-long rise. The whole world will suffer, but it need not follow America’s path.

    ________________

    My message to Steve Sailer:

    Give us some comments on the global controversy of the Trump Tariffs, completely dominating the international news today. The now-revealed data-crunching behind the rates may relate to your proposed idea of a Great Dumbing Down:

    FT:

    His “reciprocal” levies amount to a back-of-the-envelope calculation. They take trade partners’ US trade deficit in goods as a share of imports from that country, and then divide it by two.

    CNN:

    “For example, America’s trade deficit with China in 2024 was $295.4 billion, and the United States imported $439.9 billion worth of Chinese goods. That means China’s trade surplus with the United States was 67% of the value of its exports — a value the Trump administration labeled as “tariff charged to USA.” But it was no such thing. “While these new tariff measures have been framed as ‘reciprocal’ tariffs, it turns out the policy is actually one of surplus targeting,” noted Mike O’Rourke…”

    The methodology they used to calculate the tariff-rates by country was first identified by James Surowiecki: https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1907657860793696281

  122. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    The entire SW US, including the fantastically valuable Texas and California, sits on land that was “stolen” from Mexico. And yet the Mexicans are not on some sort of fanatical, suicidal mission to get their lost territory back.

    Sometimes after you lose a war, let alone 5 or 6 of them, you recognize that you are never going to get it back and you move on and you remake your destiny in wherever you find yourself.

    Present day Kaliningrad was German territory for 1,000 plus years and yet Germany is not locked in some kind of futile struggle with Russia to get it back.

    The Nationalists of Taiwan no longer plot to retake the mainland. They consider themselves lucky if the Chinese will let them keep their little island.

    If your identified goals are “all or nothing” then nothing is one of the possible outcomes.

    No matter how “vile” the imaginary Israeli crimes are, they could not possibly be as vile as what the Gazans did on 10/7. Don’t talk to me about vile after what was done on 10/7.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  123. @Jonathan Mason

    Neither of these two girls (one dead of pneumonia, one still alive) wanted tubes in either nose or stomach. What they wanted was lots of expensive attention, which you can get by starving yourself.

    The various therapies involve lots of talking to well paid psychiatrists and therapists about what to most of us is the most fascinating topic in the world – oneself.

    (You can also get it by self-harming, or various drug addictions, being in and out of hospital with overdoses. But the doctors tend not to love you so much when there are really sick people in need of a bed.)

  124. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    bad things were done a few times in the past

    Done by whom? You can’t even bring yourself to say it. “Bad thing” would be an apt description of say having separate water fountains for black people and white people. But, I think you need a stronger term for, for example, vaporizing 140,000 people with a single bomb. Vaporizing is actually too nice – many of these people were hideously burned and irradiated and suffered slow painful deaths.

    Note BTW that Israel HAS similar weapons but has not used them or even contemplated using them. If Hamas was so equipped would they have hesitated for one moment before destroying Tel Aviv?

  125. No matter how “vile” the imaginary Israeli crimes are, they could not possibly be as vile as what the Gazans did on 10/7. Don’t talk to me about vile after what was done on 10/7.

    Are you kidding us right now?

    Has “10/7” already been added to the tiresome anthology of tales in your religious literature and tradition? Will American public schools have to close on “10/7” every year now? Will there be a “10/7” museum by the Mall in Washington and others in cities around the world? Will there be Oscar-winning Hollywood movies about “10/7”?

    [MORE]

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @muggles
  126. res says:
    @Hail

    Interesting conversation in the twitter thread. Some things which jumped out at me.

    They use a complicated formula which seems designed to baffle rather than enlighten given this.

    The passthrough and elasticity values were just chosen so they would sum to 1 (res: multiply to 2 seems more accurate to me), because they wanted the formula to be trade deficit/imports, but to look like it was more theoretically sophisticated than that.

    Surowiecki says services are excluded.
    https://ustr.gov/countries-regions

    They didn’t quantify anything. They just assumed that a trade deficit with a country is entirely the result of tariffs + non-trade barriers. Oh, and they excluded services from their calculation of trade deficits.

    But I am not seeing that elsewhere? This would be a big deal given the goods/services imbalance in US trade.
    https://www.bea.gov/news/2023/us-international-trade-goods-and-services-december-and-annual-2022

    AI summary.

    U.S. Exports of Services (2022): $1,026.6 billion
    U.S. Imports of Services (2022): $748.2 billion
    Services Surplus (2022): $243.7 billion (exports – imports)
    Goods and Services Deficit (2022): $948.1 billion
    Goods Deficit (2022): $1,191.8 billion

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  127. Ed says:
    @Hail

    I have not commented on Steve Sailer posts for some time, so I’m not sure if I am an approved commentator or not. But this post should get a response, so I will make the attempt.

    First, I have just seen a study claiming that going to “college” in the United States now reduces the lifetime earnings, on a net basis, unless the major is in STEM, some sort of business type major, or property management. A lot of the reason is that most of employers hold a negative opinion of college graduates filling entry level jobs, so a college degree actually reduces the chances of getting an entry level job, unless STEM or absolutely required for licensing or some sort of career track. Even STEM graduates have been reporting reduced employment opportunities.

    Since its a long time since university education has been associated with, well, learning things, we actually are close to seeing the education bubble finally burst. I’m not sure when this happens. One clue is that the Boomers were the last generation to actually benefit from holding a college degree.

    So who gets into selective colleges might turn out to be completely irrelevant. Companies have abandoned any pretense of merit in hiring anyway, that in ten years I can see major corporations and firms drop the college degree fig leaf and just higher directly from connected families and castes. And that is really how its been throughout most of human history.

    But if you care about this, the obvious way to do it would be for the higher educational institution itself create an admissions test, and determine based on its own test which applicants it wants to educate. Which really how it was normally done, outside of imperial America.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @res
  128. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    Funny you should mention this because my paternal ancestors earned their livelihood from catching freshwater fish. More carp than trout and with a net in a pond but same idea.

    But this perhaps does not line up with the stereotype that Jews didn’t do anything but study Talmud and find ways to middle man and exploit the goyim and so did not develop any visual-spatial skills. A lot of Jewish work in Poland (tailor, shoemaker, teamster, baker, miller, blacksmith, etc. – these were all very typical Jewish occupations) was “hands on” and studying the holy books was a sideline to your breadwinning occupation and even then only for a minority.

    I believe the Verbal- Math SAT gap exists even among American born Asians with full familiarity with English. The races are in many ways very similar to each other with large overlap in many traits but they are not all exactly THE SAME nor are we 100% the product of our environment alone.

  129. @YetAnotherAnon

    Thanks.

    are finding that the cost of “special needs” education is bankrupting them.

    This is happening all over the Anglosphere. American state and local governments currently pay about the same per head as the UK councils to educate special needs children, and, depending on the disability, it often costs about the same to continue to care for those people after they graduate, i.e., for the rest of their lives.

    Coincidentally that is only slightly less than the price tag per head as caring for the insane, but governments have solved that budget problem by just dumping those people into the streets where they now count as homeless statistics, but at least the municipal budget doesn’t have an “insane asylum” line-item anymore. Perhaps the special-needs cases will eventually also reach such a pass.

    Also coincidentally, that is about the same price tag per head pre year as for educating a student at an Ivy League college, the differences being that a college student’s costs only last four years, and that upon graduating, the student presumably takes up some kind of productive function, though that’s an increasingly presumptuous presumption.

    Anyhow, it’s ironic that this is an especially Anglosphere problem as the Anglophones should at least be familiar with Copybook Headings, such as “What you subsidize you will get more of.”

  130. @Jonathan Mason

    The cunning thing will be that millions of World Team military will arrive in the United States disguised as soccer fans, and in no time at all, several major cities in the US will be seized, and Canada will cut off the electricity,oil, and water to the northern tier of states.

    LMAO. The MANLY Canuck of The Great White North has been replaced by the metrosexuals!

    A majority of Canadians support stronger gun control laws. Moreover, many citizens are increasingly concerned that President Trump’s threat to annex our country will lead to American-style gun laws in Canada.

    That’s why it’s never been more important to become informed about each political party’s position on gun control and to demand – with your vote as your voice – reasonable gun laws that safeguard our homes, schools and communities from the devastation of gun violence.

    https://twitter.com/Polysesouvient/status/1907468702506689000

  131. @Buzz Mohawk

    Re John McCain: Even my father, a naval officer and Republican, didn’t like him. Dad wasn’t happy when the party nominated the former POW for the presidential race. His words were basically, “Meh, he got himself shot down.” That’s harsh.

    I think that’s really what Trump was getting at. It wasn’t just his disdain for ‘losers’. I think he had heard and half digested, (as is typical for him) that McCain was habitually irresponsible and perhaps in this instance as well.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  132. @Jack D

    If your identified goals are “all or nothing” then nothing is one of the possible outcomes.

    Israel could try actually honoring her own agreements — see if that suffices.

    I suspect that even a bit of that would. After all, when the Palestinians were allowed to live in relative peace after the Oslo Accords, those committed to continued armed struggle swiftly became a marginal and ineffectual faction — something like the IRA in Great Britain, if that. Most Palestinians turned out to be more interested in building decent lives for themselves than in continuing the glorious struggle. They are, after all, only ordinary people — not a nation of heroes.

    It is only continuing Jewish aggression and bad faith that leads to this still going on today. What if Israel had honored her acceptance of the UN Partition boundaries? What if she had allowed the remaining gentile inhabitants of Israel proper to become equal citizens in fact as well as in theory?

    What if Israel even merely agreed to limit herself to her gains prior to 1967? What if she had permitted the actual formation of a demilitarized Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza — as she agreed to do when she made peace with Egypt?

    What if she had abided by her commitments concerning al Aqsa? After all, what brought about October 7th? And who wanted that to happen? And why?

    No one’s asking that the Zionists keep every promise they made: after all, at Versailles they assured all present that ‘a Jewish National Home’ would never be taken to mean an actual independent state — God forbid! Please — just a community with its own schools and newspapers. That’s all we mean.

    But how about trying to keep just one set of promises? What if you tried something other than endlessly planting your boot in the face of your victims and grinding it about while exulting in your power?

    Just for a change.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  133. @Jack D

    Note BTW that Israel HAS similar weapons but has not used them or even contemplated using them. If Hamas was so equipped would they have hesitated for one moment before destroying Tel Aviv?

    Oh please. You’d build gas chambers and import Zyklon B — if only you dared.

    You do everything you calculate you can get away with.

    Witness what happened when Trump was inaugurated — and insisted on a cease fire agreement.

    You signed it — and kept it until he moved on to other things.

    Then as soon as he was otherwise engaged, you broke the agreement and went right back to killing, slathering it all as usual with a generous layer of infuriating lies. Right now you’re even discussing getting South Sudan and Somalia to accept the Palestinians. Apparently, Madagascar would be insufficiently hellish.

    This is what you are. Is it even an exaggeration to say you are invariably as evil as possible?

    It sounds like it must be hyperbole, but I don’t know. Just what sort of hell-spawn are you? How will the Jewish people ever live this down?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  134. @Jack D

    Do you enjoy this? Parsing sentences and using past wrongs to justify or numb yourself from wrongs that you condone now? Wrongs in a microcosm of wrongs that would not even be happening if not for the insane project you verbally defend, one that would have failed decades ago if not for the support of my country?

    A project created by the screechiest little group of drama queens in the world. One that has brought terror, both real and fake, to my land, with the accompanying infringements on my liberty.

    Neurotic, paranoid drama queens landed themselves inside a hornet’s nest, thereby setting in motion generations of suffering, arguing, warring, expense, political manipulation, media deception and control that otherwise would not exist. Israel, Israel, Israel. What a dumb, fucking project we’ve all been paying for in blood, treasure and freedom.

    And you have the gall to say,

    [MORE]

    No matter how “vile” the imaginary Israeli crimes are, they could not possibly be as vile as what the Gazans did on 10/7. Don’t talk to me about vile after what was done on 10/7.

    Are you kidding us right now?

    Has “10/7” already been added to the tiresome anthology of tales in your religious literature and tradition? Will American public schools have to close on “10/7” every year now? Will there be a “10/7” museum by the Mall in Washington and others in cities around the world? Will there be Oscar-winning Hollywood movies about “10/7”?

    Here are just some small slices of the many examples of much more Israeli handiwork, done with the support and approval of the United States of America, now, in present day 21st century, in front of the whole world, all justified by the now-canonized “10/7” :


    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Jack D
  135. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You wanna play that game?

    Also, who did it FIRST is very important in these situations – see 9/11, see Pearl Harbor . The pictures you show represent the FO end of the FAFO equation. They should not have FAed and then there would have been no reason for the FO part. Israel wasn’t bombing any part of Gaza on 10/6.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @J.Ross
  136. @Greta Handel

    “The Establishment depends on Americans who will distract and lie to themselves, too. Sailer figured out years ago how to make it pay.”

    Ba fair. Steve could have been a wealthy Atlantic or NYT pundit were it not for that damn Noticing.

    I’m very grateful to him, even if I disagree about things like The Vax and Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  137. The U.S. Mideast envoy’s recent interview with Tucker Carlson, along with Israel’s creation of the ‘voluntary emigration’ bureau for the Gazan population’

    ‘Voluntary Migration Bureau…’

    What did the Germans call their office? There we go: ‘The Central Agency for Jewish Emigration.’ Founded in July 1938.

    Curiously parallel function. Of course, German measures to ‘encourage’ Jewish emigration had been considerably less forceful than those Israel has undertaken, and German Jews might — or might not — have wanted to go to Palestine.

    It’s going to be a tough sell, getting Palestinians to agree to the South Sudan. Even to Somalia.

    Perhaps still more encouragement will be required. Or screw it.

    Showers?

  138. @Jack D

    ‘Also, who did it FIRST is very important in these situations ‘

    Indeed. But we already discussed who did it first, didn’t we, Jack?

    Do you really want to take a trip down memory lane? Whatever led the ancestors of all those Palestinians to move to Gaza, for example? More recent events, perhaps? 2008? 2014? Where would you like to go, Jack?

    We’re in Disneyland. What’s to be the first ride? What do you want, Jack? You wanted to come here.

  139. @kaganovitch

    “You mean grant it or receive it?

    Ah don’t be silly. no university is gonna grant either me or Kimmy any sort of degree, honorary or otherwise, any time soon.

    Besides she has now passed on from us, alas, and now presides over the Great Big Moby-Dick slash Punk Rock Conference in the Sky. But you can find my commentary here.

    Ars est in artem concelere, yadda yadda something.

  140. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It’s the slippery slope fallacy, but more poetic.

  141. @YetAnotherAnon

    There seems to be an assumption that Steve Sailer would have somehow been a star if he had chosen to write about other things.

    More likely he became more successful by finding his niche and staying in it.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  142. epebble says:
    @Hail

    tarnish US prosperity

    What looks like an act of self-harm is actually necessitated by the lopsided consumption/production capacity of U.S. economy. For about 3 to 4 decades, we have been consuming more than we are producing and making up the deficit by borrowing. In a ‘normal’ country, this would have been fixed via the feedback loop of devaluation. But since USD is ‘world’ currency, that is difficult to achieve without the co-operation of major trading nations*, which are reluctant to allow USD to depreciate i.e. allow their currency to appreciate, for fear of losing competitiveness. So, Trump is trying to do the best he can by inducing a stagflation that will reduce the trade deficits. People without jobs or incomes (and smaller assets) can’t buy much stuff. As a bonus, that will also help Fed lower the interest rates and long bond interest rate may come down without the pressure of mortgage and auto loans.

    * It was done before, 4 decades back:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  143. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Those burnt out cars are more than Hamas can do on its strongest day, but they would be a piece of cake for an Israeli attack helicopter carrying out the Hannibal directive.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  144. J.Ross says:
    @kaganovitch

    McCain used his powerful relatives to ignore an unwritten rule of naval aviation, that if you crash two planes, your third ride is a desk. Guess which crash led to him getting captured. In other words, if the same rules everyone else obeyed applied to him, he never would have been tortured.

  145. muggles says:
    @Hail

    Along the lines of the Hair is a biological inherited trait, but IQ isn’t, I am still seeking an answer to the recently possible matter of:

    what is the name of the “wigged out/electroshock” black female hairstyle?

    You know, the female Afro that sticks out in all outward directions anywhere from 5 to 12 inches?

    That is made possible by glued onto the scalp plastic extensions to which real/fake hair is also attached or glued.

    I have never heard of the name or term for that.

    Asking a pro White mostly male audience here must surely yield a prompt and correct answer.

  146. muggles says:
    @Colin Wright

    Notice how you are led into supporting a series of almost absurdly indefensible propositions. Doesn’t this bother you at all?

    Project much?

  147. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Yeah, that’s the ticket. Hamas dindu nuffin. Arabs could not have brought down the Twin Towers either. What about them Dancing Israelis? Same old tired anti-Semitic shit. It never gets old with the Men of Unz.

    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
  148. @emil nikola richard

    She was not exactly a looker even before becoming fat. BTW, the expression I forgot to mention earlier, it may have been coined or at least popularized by Emil Kirkegaard and/or Edward Dutton, is “spiteful mutants.”

  149. @res

    You must be right. I wonder why I associated it with Asimov. Anyway thanks for correcting my faulty memory. Now I really better dig up the book. The bigger problem is to make the time to read it.

  150. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I hate to bother to comment on this tired topic.

    But are those photos of Gaza, or Berlin in April 1945?

    When you launch a surprise attack on your neighbors, bad things can happen when your army loses.

    Especially when your “leader/leaders” refuse to surrender after being defeated.

    If all you do is retreat and hide in the now defeated Capital City and shoot at the victorious army from apartments and tunnels, and increasingly large mounds of ruins, bad things will happen to hapless civilians you are hiding among.

    That is a well-recognized War Crime, by the way.

    Do you still weep over the many dead and injured Berliners from 1945? Is your point that the Allies should have left a defeated Berlin alone as a Nazi remnant to spare civilians from harm?

    Please explain.

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Colin Wright
  151. Mark G. says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “More likely he became more successful by finding his niche”

    Yes, Steve found his niche and “niche” is a good word for it. Assuming the commenters here are representative of his readers, they diverge quite a bit from your typical normie American. Here in Indiana, most people talk about their hobbies or personal relationships. If they talk politics it is to complain about things like high prices, local crime or immigrants who don’t know how to speak English or drive a car properly. Even there, this is not a regular occurrence. National or international affairs seldom come up. I do not think I have heard the words “Ukraine” or “Israel” ever uttered in everyday life.

    Steve figured out how to appeal to political junkie types, particularly to a particular segment where he could successfully outcompete competitors for their attention. He made a living as a writer, something many attempt but few succeed at.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  152. @Hail

    Two thoughts come to mind. I think this cynical gaming of citizenship via dubious ties semi-frequently comes into play when athletes try to figure out what country they might “represent” in the Olympics.

    IIRC, someone on VDare (don’t recall if it was Brimelow, it could have been given his background in financial journalism) tried to estimate the dollar value of US citizenship. I believe their estimate was in the 6 figures.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Reg Cæsar
  153. @Jack D

    Yeah, that’s the ticket. Hamas dindu nuffin. Arabs could not have brought down the Twin Towers either

    In completely agreement with you. Sunnis are a plague on civilization.

    What about them Dancing Israelis?

    You just had to throw this in. The dancers knew what was going to happen and were taking selfies. They were deported and the FBI files, when released, were heavily redacted. At best, Israel knew the Sunnis were planning 911, at worst they aided them to drag the US into a Mideast war.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  154. @Hail

    I don’t know. On the one hand most economists who study economic history I have read approve of tariffs. On the other the formula for calculating these numbers looks like Elon Musk pulled it out of ass when very stoned.

    The Financial Times not liking it is of no consequence at all. My first impression is all the people yelling the loudest hate Donald the Fat regardless and this is just driving them over the edge; as if they weren’t over the edge before. New edges to go over have been revealed.

  155. @muggles

    Do you still weep over the many dead and injured Berliners from 1945? Is your point that the Allies should have left a defeated Berlin alone as a Nazi remnant to spare civilians from harm?

    Please explain.

    Okay, I’ll ‘splain it, Ricky.

    You and I will not agree in this area. I think the US should have stayed out of the “world” war that Britain and other interests expanded in Europe in the late 30s – early 40s. America helped to divide Europe and give half of it to communists. My country had no business being there.

    And yes, I think what US and UK bombers did to Germany was vile. (As were the fire bombings and atomic bombings in Japan.)

    Why is it that you defenders of war crimes think that I will somehow excuse what you condone, just because my country did terrible things too?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @muggles
  156. If a tree falls in the forest, and Zionists control the media, is there a sound?

    ‘Israeli School Massacre a Wake Up Call to the Entire World.’

  157. @Buzz Mohawk

    Why is it that you defenders of war crimes think that I will somehow excuse what you condone, just because my country did terrible things too?

    I love the logic. I stole a car when I was an adolescent — so I’m barred from interfering if Jack wants to molest an eight year old.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  158. Bat chain.
    Puller.
    Bat chain puller.
    Puller, puller.

    In zones of rust,
    They gild gold
    Sawdust into dust,
    Bat chain puller.

  159. @emil nikola richard

    ‘I don’t know. On the one hand most economists who study economic history I have read approve of tariffs. On the other the formula for calculating these numbers looks like Elon Musk pulled it out of ass when very stoned.’

    You need to start somewhere. Now people can sit down with the US and work out more reasonable formulas.

    Personally, I can appreciate why Japan would have tariffs, and I don’t blame them at all for having them. At the same time, I can see how the same applies to us.

  160. Jack D says:
    @Sam Hildebrand

    Does Mossad make a practice of disclosing top secret information to people who are peddling magazine subscriptions door to door?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Mr. Anon
  161. @Mark G.

    His niche – actually a shtick – is much narrower than “political junkie types.”

    It didn’t take long after his arrival here at TUR to see that Sailer isn’t so much a dissident as a copium denmother for disaffected white guys who skew 40+ in age. In practically all other respects — and, thus, effectively in that one — he narrates or stands silent on behalf of the Establishment.

    What’s the last important thing he’s written or skirted that those two sentences don’t explain?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  162. Dmon says:
    @Hail

    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/02/25/sanctions-on-lawyers-for-filing-motion-containing-ai-hallucinated-cases/#more-8318749

    The court sanctioned the author of the motion (Ayala) $3000, and also sanctioned the other lawyers who signed it (Morgan and Goody) $1000 each, noting that “[a] finding of subjective bad faith is not required to impose sanctions.” It also withdrew Ayala’s permission to participate in the case pro hac vice (i.e., as a lawyer who is not a member of the court’s bar and is admitted just for this case, in association with a bar member). It noted that, “Because of Mr. Ayala’s oversight, Respondents’ clients essentially lost their opportunity to file meritorious motions in limine, as they withdrew their Motions. Without belaboring the point, society has an interest in attorneys’ ethical conduct, and Mr. Ayala’s conduct fell short of that standard.”

    This sort of thing seems to be becoming more commonplace, and slap on the wrist penalties like this are not going to stop it. Eventually, when all information is digital and Big Tech/Media gets through rewriting history, there won’t even be any way to check what’s real and what’s not.

    • Thanks: Hail
  163. Mike Tre says:
    @Colin Wright

    You are god awful at analogies. You’re starting to sound a lot like HA, so I’ll give you the advice that Mr. Anon gives him regularly: Buy a gun and book a flight to Palestine.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  164. @Jack D

    subscriptions door to door?

    Does the FBI make a practice of holding people for eleven weeks who didn’t do nuffin’?

    There is a story there. You guys better make sure it never gets told.

    For as long as you are able, of course.

    …ever notice how Mormons, Overseas Chinese, Lebanese Christians don’t have these sort of problems? Could there be a moral there?

  165. @Mike Tre

    You are god awful at analogies. You’re starting to sound a lot like HA, so I’ll give you the advice that Mr. Anon gives him regularly: Buy a gun and book a flight to Palestine.

    I’ll give you some advice.

    Stick to bowling and posts on You Tube videos.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  166. @Ralph L

    Now there’s a couple of experts for ya’. ;-}

  167. @Jack D

    “…But, I think you need a stronger term for, for example, vaporizing 140,000 people with a single bomb. Vaporizing is actually too nice – many of these people were hideously burned and irradiated and suffered slow painful deaths.”

    140,000 is the high estimate, 70,000 is the low estimate.

  168. @Jack D

    Thanks, Jack. The old Greeks knew their shit. (The modern Greeks, not so much.)

    Since you brought up the subject, I think America could use to start some type of Exorcism program, say for Non-Binary no Bi-Polar , that’d be demon-possessed people (to use the term loosely) like Minnesota Rep Kozlowski (D-Looking Glass).

    I never thought I’d agree with the likes of Bernie Sanders, but I would not be against Federally funded exorcisms. At least it should be mandated for all healthcare plans.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  169. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Haha, only the official maps are “charts”, somehow. Thank you, G.A., for reminding me of that thread – nothing to do with iSteve’s post, but that’s not unusual and often a feature here.

    This is getting bad, but I will have to finish that one tomorrow on my blog, as I really need a couple of solid hours to think. In the meantime, Canadian and Ukrainian flags flying together now, and also a quick post about Hooters Going Tits Up.

  170. You’re the only story that I’ve never told.
    You’re my dirty little secret, wanna keep you so.

    So just for fun the other night, I went out and signed up for an Open Mic at some comedy club. It’s been so long, nobody had any idea who I was, I just sort of walked up out of the blue, got onstage and killed. It was fun doing that, after all these amateur morons, watching people’s jaws gradually dropping as they slowly realized who, or what, really, they were dealing with.

  171. @Hail

    AMERICA’s ASTONISHING ACT OF SELF-HARM

    Trump’s tariffs will upend the global economic order and tarnish US prosperity

    By The Financial Times Editorial Board…

    This would seem to say more about the Financial Times that it does about the wisdom of Trump’s tariffs. How precisely our imposing tariffs that are half of those imposed on us is an ‘astonishing act of self-harm’ escapes me.

    I mean, even we assume that Trump’s criteria for measuring the tariffs we are subjected to might be screwy, it all seems like a fine start to me.

    That can be the basis — and now we can talk. What’s the problem?

    • Replies: @epebble
    , @James B. Shearer
  172. @Greta Handel

    Boy, this exchange is revealing:

    But no more than your trusttheplan whitewash in #60.

    The Establishment depends on Americans who will distract and lie to themselves, too. Sailer figured out years ago how to make it pay.

    Eh, you need to Greta more specific. Your ‘oracular’ huffings are not quite intelligible.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  173. Solicitor General John Sauer was just confirmed by the US Senate; this changes everything…

    William Kirk discusses the plan to allow non-citizen police officers in Washington state as we examine SB 5068, a bill which would permit legal aliens to become police officers and Prosecuting Attorneys.

    The US Supreme Court needs to step up and fix anti-gun rulings like we see in a recent Illinois state court decision.

    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1907913055448772613
    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1907855657342046461
    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1907946303029494030

  174. @Greta Handel

    People are openly rooting for Marco Rubio and goons grabbing a woman off the street for writing an antiwar op-ed in the context of university governance.

    Is that why Rubio (or whoever ordered the arrest) says she got snatched? Seems unlikely.

    And would it surprise you if there’s a complementary book by another scholarly journalist and IDF veteran telling progressives what they want to fear and associating that with anti-Zionism and Islam, too?

    His book sounds like schvitzing cope. I doubt he has any viable strategies to “give Jewish students and their allies the tools they need to rid academia and progressive movements of this pseudo-historical and bigoted movement’s appeal” as the synopsis puts it.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  175. Anon[419] • Disclaimer says:

    The silver lining of Trump being economically clueless and crashing the stock market is that it hurts leftist-captured institutions that depend on market returns to fund their degenerate mission. Ideally, layoffs, and even closures, will follow. Admittedly it sux for normal people whose assets are evaporating.

    • Replies: @HA
  176. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Hey! So you’re this guy:

    Thanks for the laughs. I haven’t seen you in a long time.

    Great PJ selection, BTW.

    Seriously, maybe you are that guy. When I read the Wikipedia bio, it sounds possible, Murray.

  177. @Buzz Mohawk

    It is a shameful activity that is damaging the reputation [e.a.] of my country and my people.

    Really? Who are the sainted innocents tsk-tsking us? Please name names …

    Just as Israel can never again claim victimhood, never again scream, muh, Holocaust!, America cannot now pretend to hold the moral high ground.

    That’s better for both countries, right? Or do you think the USA should be a self-proclaimed “humanitarian superpower” like Sweden once declared itself? Trying (or pretending) to “hold the moral high ground” often leads to fake and gay outcomes. Shirley you don’t want fake and gay outcomes.

    Second, it is the real midwits who simplemindedly get happy about specifics while ignoring the general, more important issues.

    We’re in agreement in the abstract, it’s just that we disagree which is “more important”—namely, a focus on Israel/Palestine vs. a focus on the United States. It’s the same problem with others, like commenter HA and her Ukraine obsession, who are more concerned with the fate of foreigners than with American domestic concerns.

    while the real work isn’t getting done and our principles are being thrown out the window

    That’s pretty vague. What would that “real work” look like in action? E.g., are you going to write to AOC and ask her to ask Trump to divest from Israel? LOL

    there is a real pall falling over speech [e.a] in the one country that is supposed to stand for freedom

    Since Musk took over Twitter and the “vibe shift” occured, the bold claim is out-of-date. E.g., prominent people at rallies (like Musk, Bannon) are asking in German Sign Language if anyone’s seen Kyle, and aren’t being canceled, and are in fact publicly cheered.

    But on back on campus, if you have a problem with Title VI being enforced, argue that it should be repealed, and write a letter to AOC to get it repealed, LOL. Meanwhile Trump is using the weapon VI (million) to ‘protect the Jews’ as a pretext to roger the universities sideways, with possible yuuuuge financial penalties, and to heighten intra-institutional turmoil. Are you not entertained?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Jack D
  178. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    TL/DR

    Pointless, annoying garbage argument.

    Have a nice day. 🙂

    • Thanks: Jenner Ickham Errican
  179. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    So just for fun the other night, I went out and signed up for an Open Mic at some comedy club. It’s been so long, nobody had any idea who I was, I just sort of walked up out of the blue, got onstage and killed. It was fun doing that, after all these amateur morons, watching people’s jaws gradually dropping as they slowly realized who, or what, really, they were dealing with.

    As Kool Rock Chick #2 said, you are “A f#cking legend?!”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-1-2/#comment-7046690

  180. @Achmed E. Newman

    As one who shares a similar College/Post-grad (law school in my case) background, I get Sailer’s discomfort with the Trump MAGA vibe. But like many commenters I realized at some point in the last 5 years that this is war, and when it comes to that, you’re better off sharing a foxhole with a MAGA lowbrow than almost any given conservative intellectual (myself included, probably). But it is tough to be a traitor to your class, wrong-headed (or in the case of Woke-insane) as they are. Also, having prospered at my legal craft for 40 years (enabled in part by a certain reticence about my politics), I can’t deny Sailer his chance at some late financial rewards for his craft. God knows others have been cannibalizing his insight for profit precisely because he was anathema.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  181. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    People are openly rooting for Marco Rubio and goons grabbing a woman off the street for writing an antiwar op-ed in the context of university governance.

    Is that why Rubio (or whoever ordered the arrest) says she got snatched? Seems unlikely.

    “Seems unlikely”? If you wanted to know what happened to this woman and why, it’s been addressed repeatedly here at TUR, including by Giraldi and Unz.

    But based on 200+ comments this year, you apparently confine your reading to Sailer’s HBD tree fort. Why?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  182. @emil nikola richard

    Agreed, Mr. Richard. I don’t know enough about the numbers from Elon Musk, but I’ve had a long argument about tariffs here on this site, and I read part of a book by Alfred Eckes (Opening America’s Market) on the history of tariffs in America. It’s long – the history of having tariffs, that is. There was good conversation here on my site, and Mr. Hail recommended the book and commenter Adam Smith kindly linked us to an online copy.

    Here‘s the .pdf.

    The Financial Times not liking it is of no consequence at all.

    Yep. I picked up a copy recently – maybe the 2nd time in my life – and it was, as the Brits are wont to say, rubbish!

    • Replies: @Hail
  183. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You’re a bigot, stoked and soothed by Sailer for so long that you don’t even see the good in or sympathize with other people.

    See also #180.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  184. J.Ross says:

    Sailer specifically and rightist radio writ large re tarriffs: but things have been going this way for all this time! And he wants to put them that other way!

  185. @Rahuthedotard

    All true. That’s also my take on the matter. I don’t knock Mr. Sailer for running his new substack operation the way he wants, including content-wise. He does deserve some fame and more remuneration for his many ideas that people have “borrowed”.

    I’m just starting to disagree with him more often. Maybe it’s on 5-10% of his specific statements rather than 1% back before the Kung Flu, at least. It wasn’t just that PanicFest thing, but, as of more recently. his Establishment Ukraine War stance, his disdain for good MAGA people, refusal to say (hardly) anything good about Trump directly, and – just remembered this – his claim that Bai Dien was running the show because there is no Deep State – only what he calls the “Deep State”, actually the Administrative State. These are 2 separate entities.

  186. epebble says:
    @Colin Wright

    That term ‘Self-Harm’ is wrong. It is more like swallowing bitter medicine or sacrifice. But no doubt there will be a lot of pain. With 20% effective tariff on all imports, we will see nearly that much jump in prices almost immediately. That means, in the baskets of goods one purchase, an immediate drop of purchasing power. Secondarily, as the cost of imported inputs goes up by 20%, the market shrinks leading to sizeable job losses. There is no running away from stagflation in the near term and if there are retaliatory tariffs by other countries, in the medium term too. The benefits of businesses moving their factories to U.S., if they happen at all, will take years to materialize. Meanwhile, most people’s investments, 401(k) etc., will take sizeable hits – much larger than impact due to inflation. We might have already lost tens of Trillions of wealth in the second Trump era. This will feel like Ford-Carter era of 1970’s.

    Trump tariff policy can cause $30 trillion loss, warns former US Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers
    https://www.livemint.com/market/stock-market-news/trump-tariff-policy-can-cause-30-trillion-loss-warns-former-us-treasury-secretary-lawrence-summers-11743666745906.html

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  187. @Greta Handel

    If you wanted to know what happened to this woman and why

    You’re worked up about it, not me. Seems suspicious you only offered your ‘editorial take’ on why she was arrested, but failed to quote the arresting authority—likely because you don’t have the chops to dispute anything other than your own rhetorical straw men. Which makes you a passive-aggressive pussy.

    But based on 200+ comments this year, you apparently confine your reading to Sailer’s HBD tree fort. Why?

    Hmmm. You can tell what I’ve read or not by my comments? Amazing!

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  188. @Greta Handel

    You’re a bigot

    Ahhh, there it is. Tell us, what shithole country are you from?

    you don’t even see the good in or sympathize with other people

    “Other people”? Again, why so vague? What people, exactly?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  189. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It was fun doing that, after all these amateur morons, watching people’s jaws gradually dropping as they slowly realized who, or what, really, they were dealing with.

    Hmm. Not saying you should, not saying you shouldn’t—but have you ever considered self-doxxing here? (The caveat for beholders being, of course, never meet your weirdos.)

  190. @emil nikola richard

    On the one hand most economists who study economic history I have read approve of tariffs.

    The Chicago school is pretty well known and they are very much anti-tariff.

    It isn’t that tariffs are inherently bad.

    The problem is that it is easy for a trade war to get out of hand.

    You can easily spook the market and erase all of your planned gains from the revenue.

    Trump is really making one of the worst moves possible which is to start multiple trade wars.

    He doesn’t know what he is doing and the markets are mostly betting against him.

    The Financial Times not liking it is of no consequence at all. My first impression is all the people yelling the loudest hate Donald the Fat regardless and this is just driving them over the edge; as if they weren’t over the edge before.

    Is that what they are saying at Fox News? Critics must be Democrats?

    If Harris had passed all these tariffs then the Fox/Newsmax right would be calling her a lunatic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  191. @kaganovitch

    Well if you live on a certain side of a certain street, then kinda sorta, yeah. But only on that street.

    Put it this way, I work in a kind of maybe sorta secret industry only building, yeah we have those and you don’t know about them for that exact reason. All the same you got your actual legal name stuck on a name plate outside your office door. So I’m leaving for the day and some twenty-something Kool Rock Chick says Hey, are you actually Germ Theory I said sure, what can I help you with, she said, No I guess I phrased that wrong, I meant, Are you actually THE Germ Theory, the Germ who did X and Y and Z wait til I tell my girlfriends, they won’t believe it.

    So if you’re THAT sort of nerd, then yeah. But it’s a big IF, right.

  192. @Colin Wright

    I have noticed when arguing with Asians that they tend to be statistics nerds but have trouble understanding abstract philosophical concepts expressed verbally…

    That may simply owe more to a greater familiarity with English than to any genetic difference.

    Right. How many Asians have ever heard of a regatta? Perhaps in China, a legatta, leading to confucian.

  193. @Colin Wright

    And now finally, your expectation that we support these crimes, that we crush all attempts to even protest them?

    Oh nooooo, these poor souls are being crushed—it’s anudda Shoah!

  194. @Hail

    “Anti-racists” claim that race doesn’t exist and then proceed in the next sentence to assume it does. Yes, that inconsistency was noted over 30 years ago.

    Black women will be inconsistent in order to get benefits for their own people. Meanwhile, white intellectuals will be inconsistent in order to screw over their own people. Which do you think is worse?

    And why is Sailer only interested in sneering at these Black women, but never the White intellectuals who pushed a genocide against their own race.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  195. @Colin Wright

    “…What’s the problem?”

    The problem is the costs are obvious and immediate and the benefits are delayed and uncertain.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  196. Mark G. says:
    @emil nikola richard

    “Jeffrey Sachs doesn’t like them.”

    Former Reagan OMB director David Stockman is not particularly opposed to tariffs for revenue purposes but does not think lack of tariffs is a major cause of our trade deficits. A major cause, not the only one but a major one, is the inflationary policies the Fed has followed since we left Bretton Woods and severed the last link to gold in 1970. Our big trade deficits started after that.

    U.S. manufacturing wages in 1970 were 3.35 dollars per hour. With a mild 2% increase a year they would be ten dollars an hour now. Instead, because of higher real inflation, they are 27.50 dollars per hour. By comparison, Chinese manufacturing wages are 5.70 dollars per hour. If you factor in things like the cost of transporting goods across the ocean, if American wages were only ten dollars an hour, we could compete better with the Chinese. The lower inflation that would have led to ten dollar an hour wages would also have led to lower domestic prices so you could easily live on that wage.

    High inflation hurts savers but helps borrowers. The biggest borrower in this country is the federal government so it is pursuing a high inflation policy to benefit itself.

    • Replies: @epebble
    , @James B. Shearer
  197. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    BUBBLEGUM: Banana Guards — SEIZE HIM! Okay, now, let him go. And now, SEIZE HIM! all over again. And now let him go, and now — seize him! Sorry I got it wrong that time, let’s try this again… SEIZE HIM!! I don’t really want anybody to seize anybody else, but man I just like saying that.

    “never meet your weirdos.”

    Probably good advice.

  198. BenKenobi says:

    Hey fellas, just so you know, my last two comments from SS Open Thread #2 & 3 respectively were deleted even after excessive limbo due to my extended absence.
    The whim is strong in this one and given the whitelisting of the usual suspects in the past 3 threads this does not bode well at all.

  199. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Tell us, what shithole country are you from?

    I’m from yours.

    What people, exactly?

    Pretty much anyone who’s not, like those “honorees [who] were a pantheon of ugly human dysgenics. All of their ‘causes’ were about ‘addressing’ dysfunction in the shitty societies they are from.” Which, in my own little way, is why I hang out here talking with the likes of you.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  200. @Colin Wright

    “How will the Jewish people ever live this down?”

    Live what down?

  201. More UK news:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/02/young-women-england-wales-likely-have-just-one-child-35-ons-study

    Girls who turn 18 this year are projected to have an average of one child each by the age of 35 – unlike their mothers’ generation who had an average of one child per woman by the time they reached 31.

    Projections from the ONS suggest that the birthrate in England and Wales will continue to drop, with women having smaller families after having babies later in life than previous generations.

    Young women turning 18 this year are projected to have most of their children after turning 30 years old, in contrast to previous generations who had had most of their children by that age. Women born in 1978 had about half their children by the age of 30, while their mothers (born in 1951) had had three-quarters of their children. The study found that in 2023 the average age for a woman to have a baby was 30.9.

    Figures from the ONS showed that the birthrate in England and Wales had dropped to an all-time low of 1.44 children per woman in 2023, with deaths outstripping births in the UK for the first time in nearly half a century.

    Affordable family formation is dead here. And when you consider that these figures will include various high fertility minority groups…

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/28/uk-house-prices-rise-nationwide-average

    The average UK house price rose by 0.4% during the month, up from 0.1% the month before, according to an early measure from Nationwide, Britain’s biggest building society. The average price of a house bought through Nationwide grew to £270,493.

    The increase meant that prices grew by 3.9% over the last 12 months, although that was slightly slower than the 4.1% annual rate recorded in January.

  202. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Seems suspicious you only offered your ‘editorial take’ on why she was arrested, but failed to quote the arresting authority—likely because you don’t have the chops to dispute anything other than your own rhetorical straw men. Which makes you a passive-aggressive pussy.

    Here’s the MSM report of what Rubio and others publicly said that Unz hyperlinked in his recent “The Zionist Destruction of American Higher Education” article you should check out:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/27/marco-rubio-student-visas-palestine-00005141

    You can tell what I’ve read or not by my comments?

    I said “apparently,” but yeah — and here once again — pretty much.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  203. @Nicholas Stix

    Let’s not stereotype. We can each speak for ourselves.

    I can’t respond to all your charges against the Irgun, but if they drove the Arabs (the term “Palestinians” had yet to be invented) out of Israel, I say, more power to them!

    Nicholas Stix (December 18, 2014)

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Troll: Nicholas Stix
  204. Mark G. says:
    @Colin Wright

    The New American magazine puts out a yearly rating of Congressional representatives according to how closely their votes adhere to the Constitution. Last year Ilhan Omar got 19 out a hundred while Thomas Massie got 99 out of a hundred.

    Now both these individuals are critical of our government’s pro-Israel stance. If someone suffers from an extreme Jew fixation to such an extent this is the main issue of importance to them, they are likely to view both these individuals as on their side.

    I do not think that way, though. I think we face many issues of importance and like Massie more because of his overall stance on all these issues. For expressing that opinion, though, on another part of this website that our position on Israel is just one of a number of important issues I was just accused of being a yarmulke wearing Jew. The commenter doing that has a history of following me around and barking at me like an annoying little dog, spewing insults at me and being obnoxious. I think it seriously hurts the movement to have a less pro-Israel foreign policy by having people like that on our side and that is one reason why we are not successful so far.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Colin Wright
  205. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    Steve’s main shtick was to say things many people know but do not say like Whites commit fewer crimes than Blacks or are smarter than Blacks. His career was in no danger from that.

    Where he really went against the elites running this country was him saying their policy was invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world. I think he eventually decided if he continued in that vein it would hurt his career. Thus, him going along with the establishment on the Ukraine and Israel.

    I do not put the change earlier during Covid. Steve had never given much indication he opposed the medical establishment. So, no real change there when he went along with them on our Covid response.

  206. Pericles says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It’s been so long, nobody had any idea who I was, I just sort of walked up out of the blue, got onstage and killed. It was fun doing that, after all these amateur morons, watching people’s jaws gradually dropping as they slowly realized who, or what, really, they were dealing with.

    You are … Dave Chappelle?

  207. Pericles says:
    @emil nikola richard

    However that may be, I expect it gets the baseball stats right.

    (By the way the NSA has a row in your file they increment every time you type about negro IQ test scores on your computer or mention negro IQ test scores around your phone mic.)

    A column, I suppose? Hey, did you know if you do it enough, the counter overflows and you go back to zero.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  208. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    There was a Turkish film early in the Erdoğan period, Eve Dönüş (“Returning Home”). It was set at the time of the 1980 military coup in Turkey, which incidentally was supported by the USA, Britain etc. In the film an apolitical worker is picked up by the police and tortured. It transpires they have mistaken him for a left-wing militant leader. After about two weeks of torture the police realise their mistake and turn him loose – the chief of the torturers drives up to him in a car as he is walking on an Istanbul street and warns him not to say anything about his time in detention because they can always arrest him again. He goes into a tea shop and encounters his former landlord – he had been behind on his rent and when the worker was arrested the landlord evicted his family. The landlord buys the worker a tea, trying to ingratiate himself with the worker, fearing him a bit now he has been released. A couple of other men in the tea shop see the worker and start muttering about him, “That’s the Red who was arrested. What’s he doing free?” Suddenly a couple of army officers come into the tea shop and tell the two men they are wanted for questioning. One of the men says, “But abi ,” (“older brother” – a sort of honorific in Turkey) “there must be a mistake. We didn’t do anything.” At that point the film ends. As the credits roll there is a list of statistics, such as the numbers of people detained at least briefly during the martial law period, several hundred thousand but I forget the actual figure, the number of people who died under torture, the number who disappeared in custody, the number who were fired from work under martial law provisions etc.

  209. @Dmon

    Attorneys who do that should be subject to professional discipline, up to and including disbarment, from whatever authority is responsible for regulating attorney conduct. Conduct like that violates professional ethical rules such as those requiring diligence and candor to the tribunal.

    Unfortunately those authorities have become increasingly politicized nowadays, so any attorney discipline probably will depend more on who/whom than on any reasonably objective assessment.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  210. guest007 says:
    @res

    One needs to keep up with the latest data. females have higher, on average, SAT/ACT scores than males (the bottom end is just as important as the top end). Girls have higher verbal scores. There is a small and closing gap on the SAT math portion at the very highest end.

    Compare that to boys being held back much more than girls, falling way behind in middle class, dropping out of high school much more often than girls, that the top 10% of a high school class is usually more than 70% female, that 75% of valedictorians are female. Females are much more likely to go to college, much more likely to complete college, much more likely to attend graduate school. Remember, law school, medical school, dental school, pharmacy school are all majority female. And the MBA programs are majority female with many of the top programs still being around 50% male.

    Try looking up data instead of depending on outdated memes.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    , @AnotherDad
    , @res
  211. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    I generally agree here. I don’t know anything about Greg Cochran. He sounds like he’s not too bright.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  212. J.Ross says:
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    I’m pretty sure he has (it may complicate things but shouldn’t that a lot of “white intellectuals” aren’t white).

  213. dearieme says:

    Hats off to Mr iSteve for his new piece on the Sentinelese.

    It’s refreshing to read something intelligent that includes race, language, and culture without the writer feeling obliged to doff his cap, bow to the conventional wisdom, and profess that he’s a civilised chap really.

    • Thanks: Hail
  214. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    Not sure why advocating for my own people makes me a bigot, and not sure you realize that shouting “bigot!” at anyone who doesn’t agree with you is pretty much straight out of the jewish cultural subversion playbook, page 1.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  215. Ralph L says:
    @guest007

    Howard Univ. is only 18% black male. It now has more non-blacks than black men.

    • Replies: @guest007
  216. @Mike Tre

    I strive not to “shout” call just “anyone” anything, and did so there only after the subject asked me to be “more specific. Your ‘oracular’ huffings are not quite intelligible.” Like I said to Nicholas Stix in #201, each man bears responsibility for his own words.

    So, I’m not sure why you’re now jumping in to claim otherwise. Or does Mike Tre endorse those of Jenner Ickham Errican quoted in #197?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  217. @Achmed E. Newman

    “I generally agree here. I don’t know anything about Greg Cochran. He sounds like he’s not too bright.”

    Cochran is plenty bright. Which isn’t the same thing as agreeing with you about everything.

  218. @Pericles

    “You are … Dave Chappelle?”

    Close but nah. But I do remember Dave back when he was a brilliant teenager, and everybody was looking at him and thinking “We have the next Eddie Murphy here, we just have to figure out how to play this” and somehow nobody could — i first met the guy in the waiting room outside Lorne’s office — which gives you an idea. His personal-services tax-corp was, if i remember properly, “Pilot Boy” b/c everybody wanted to do a pilot with him but nobody wanted to roll the dice on taking it to series.

  219. Anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Johnson

    and they are very much anti-tariff…The problem is that it is easy for a trade war to get out of hand….You can easily…and the markets are mostly betting against him…If Harris had passed all these tariffs then the Fox/Newsmax right would be calling her a lunatic.

    IOW, people who are smarter than you are anti-tariff, therefore you’re against them. “If” and “easily could” are tells of a:

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Midwit

  220. @James B. Shearer

    Even here, one can find Jeb!sites among the Zionists.

  221. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    Most of your comments include outright name calling or similar invective. Your reply to me is a complete non sequitur.

    The fundamental disagreement here is this:

    You, Colin Wright, and Buzz feel Palestinians (specifically and more so than other groups) possess fundamental or Constitutional rights to come to the US, occupy a position in school or workforce, and commence to using that position as a staging ground to agitate and advocate for a foreign conflict that is of zero consequence to the average US citizen, even thought it is the US citizen’s taxes that finance these alien provocateurs’ existence here in the US.

    The sad irony that you three (and others) don’t recognize is that the “Palestinian cause” pet moral vanity project of yours has less to do with the Palestinians being persecuted, and more to do with your own (justifiable, to be sure) hostility towards Israel. To put it another way, you’d care a lot less about the Pally’s if it were the Saudi’s putting them to the screws. Further, none of you seem to give a shit about all of the different Christian sects in that region who are and have been under constant persecution, sometimes by the muslim Palestinian majority itself.

    On the other side of this, you have those like me, AEN and JEA, who define this issue as a need for a complete full stop on all immigration and its loopholes: Student visas, work visas, refugees, marriage schemes.. all of it. I don’t care if they are Pallies, mestizos, Chinese, or even the ridiculously high numbers of Eastern European immigrants who arrive here and don’t assimilate, and bring their nasty and ignorant dispositions with them. All of them can go back.

    They don’t belong here, regardless of how you try to twist “muh Constitution” into a pretzel in order to proclaim “no really, Ben Franklin really wanted a bunch of mud people here on the dole talking about how evil the place is!” No, the US is for Western European whites, and preferably, whites who don’t hate themselves and their own kind like you do.

    And the accusation that those on my side don’t see the hypocritical and selective enforcement in immigration policy is just laughably ridiculous. Like what? The heritage white American population of the US, who has sent its sons to die for jewish globalist causes the last 110 years, HASN’T been subject to this same hypocritical and selective treatment throughout the entire socioeconomic, cultural and judicial landscape since the early 1900’s? Excuse me, BUT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ASSHOLE? Heritage white US citizens have been subject to jewish hostility far longer and in a far more destructive way than the Pallys, even while WE HAVE BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO WELCOME THEM INTO THE US AND ACCOMMODATE THEM.

    Among a great long list of other things, one of those destructive things heritage Americans have been taught is to hate themselves, their culture, and to put the priorities of other racial/ethnic groups ahead of their own. You can go ahead and enter yourself into evidence as “Exhibit A” in that regard. You don’t even realize that it is through the jewish efforts of white replacement that Palistinians are even in this country to begin with.

    So I’m a bigot for prioritizing whites over anyone else? Ok, fine, I’m a bigot. But wait, are Pally’s bigots for putting Pally’s before anyone else? No? Typical jewish double standard. You can go fuck yourself.

  222. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Does Mossad make a practice of disclosing top secret information to people who are peddling magazine subscriptions door to door?

    You seem to be conflating the “Dancing Israelis” with the Israeli “Art Students”. They were selling kitschy mall art door-to-door, not magazine subscriptions. And they weren’t really selling art either, because they only showed up at the doors of DEA employees, at their homes and offices. They were spying on DoD facilities as well.

    You can’t really spin that as innocuous. They weren’t a bunch of fun-loving kids on a work-study abroad gig. They were a spy ring. Carl Cameron reported on it in December of 2001 on Brit Hume’s show, but the ADL and others leaned on FOX News to squelch any further reporting on it and to remove it from their archives.



    Video Link

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  223. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well now that we’re being nosey, I will tell you a little bit about life on Fourteen.

    Number one: nobody ever slept. Ever. It was just up all night from Monday morning when you pitched to the host, until Wednesday night when you wrapped the table read and all the Supreme Court Justices went inside Lorne’s office to figure out what was going in. And then it gets worse. And THEN you have to somehow wake your damn self up and write Update. Lorne used to be a good chap and somehow wander around with a fresh pot of coffee and a lot of charming stories. The show gets re-written while it is in progress, while it is airing, the writers are still cutting and pasting and doing god knows what.

    Number two: Chris Farley was a saint. So was Downey, and in his own way Sandler too, but Farley was a comedic and also a personal saint. I’m not sure why the guy liked me, but he did. I can’t tell you how much that guy was an inspiration: my one regret is we worked together on his hilarious Charles Laughton impersonation, but then somehow we couldn’t get it to air.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Corvinus
  224. epebble says:
    @Mark G.

    The biggest borrower in this country is the federal government so it is pursuing a high inflation policy to benefit itself.

    It might not have mattered before, when the debt was small. But with $36 trillion (and going up), even at 4%, interest is $1.5 trillion, larger than DoD budget. That is why I think the government is trying to tap on the brakes to reduce growth and bring down long bond interest rates. If the long bond can somehow be pushed down to 2.5%, the debt spiral may come back to controllable mode.

  225. @Mike Tre

    Broadbrushed attribution (and NAME CALLING) for 600 words, leaving no room to answer my specific question: “Or does Mike Tre endorse those of Jenner Ickham Errican quoted in #197?”

    And if you want to find something else I’ve actually said to refute, we can have an adult, unWhimmed conversation about that, too.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  226. Mr. Anon says:

    MAGA! Trump administration selling access to America for $ 5 million.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougmelville/2025/03/26/at-5-million-each-1000-gold-card-visas-have-been-sold-could-this-pay-off-the-us-debt/

    In related grifting news, I saw an ad the other night on FOX – Donald Trump hawking his “God Bless the USA Bible”. Imagine that – a sitting President appearing in a television commercial hawking his own branded bible (a book he’s probably never cracked since he was in Sunday School). I’m sure the fawning sycophants at FOX “News” will be all for it.

    • Replies: @res
  227. @Achmed E. Newman

    I bring up Marjorie Taylor Greene* a lot. She’s MAGA and she’s got the kind of spirit we could use in a couple of hundred more Congressmen and Senators. She might be considered a bit low-brow, so would Mr. Sailer not like her?

    I completely agree that this is war, we need people with fighting spirit. These assholes are trying to destroy the greatest civilization in history–which happens to be my civilization–with their toxic minoritarian garbage and immigration lunacy. We need to fight.

    I’m 100% on board with trying Mayorkas and Biden for treason. Heck, I’d be more than happy to pull the trap door or fire the rifle or boil the oil myself.

    But … we still want better than dingbattery from our leaders. MTG would be a fine–at home baking cookies for her kids and posting on Facebook. But she lacks brains and rational judgement and should not be a “leader” in our movement, just cause she’s got spirit.

    Give me a nationalist leader like George Washington. He had a comfortable life, but was actually out there–putting his life on the line–fighting for our independence from the imperialist running dogs. A ton of fighting spirit. But not a bozo, but a level-headed clear thinking man.

    More broadly nationalists, conservatives can not win “led” by a bunch of “look at me!” girls. Defending the community, the nation is inherently the job of the responsible men of the nation. If we do not do it–do not have strong, intelligent, level-headed leaders step up to lead–the nation will fail. We know who the enemies of America, of nations, of the West are–they are literally people who can’t shut up, and yap “must have immigration” and sing the praises of globo-homo incessantly. Responsible men must rise up, organize and crush them.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  228. res says:
    @deep anonymous

    Thanks. Here is a Marginal Revolution discussion.
    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2016/02/what-is-the-dollar-value-of-u-s-citizenship.html

    Notable for having many comments from iSteve including a link to what may be (?) your VDare article (written by iSteve). Here is an archive version.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20240822125911/http://www.vdare.com/articles/birthright-citizenship-anarcho-tyranny-and-beverly-hills-nativism

    • Replies: @Moshe Def
  229. @res

    I could have clicked “Agree” too.

    I used to like reading Surowiecki’s “Financial Page” at the New Yorker because he had a layman’s knack for explaining economic or economic-adjacent phenomena, even if his knack wasn’t always successfully executed, and his Page increasingly became merely a venue for his limousine liberal politics.

    What’s notable about his deboonking of the Trump tariffs is that while decrying simplicity in the tariffs as if simple and comprehensible tariffs were bad, his supposed exposé via simplification seems to create as much new murk as new light, so he’s simultaneously condemning simple tariffs as bad while his own implicitly good simplification reduction is not actually so simple. Simplicity: bad when Trump does it but good when Surowiecki does, but then he doesn’t actually do it very well.

    This is kind of that same thing that happened with his Financial Page at the New Yorker. After some initial achievements, he fell into ‘simplicity sophistry’, while surreptitiously side-loading his fashionable politics into a contrived debate. Apparently even the New Yorker got tired of this because they discontinued his Page.

  230. res says:
    @Mark G.

    The New American magazine puts out a yearly rating of Congressional representatives according to how closely their votes adhere to the Constitution. Last year Ilhan Omar got 19 out a hundred while Thomas Massie got 99 out of a hundred.

    Thanks. They make both the Freedom Index (starting 2017) and the Congressional Scorecard (starting 2001) available here.
    https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/

  231. @epebble

    With 20% effective tariff on all imports, we will see nearly that much jump in prices almost immediately.

    It depends; but in general, the increase won’t necessarily match the tariff. For example, I drink a lot of imported wine.

    But at least half the price (if not more) goes to distributors here in the US. For example, a decent but not great bottle of Argentine plonk might sell for $10.00 here. In Argentina, it sells for $2.00. Really.

    So, to oversimplify, that 20% tariff would add $0.40 to cost of the bottle, not $2.00. Say $0.80. After all, the wine won’t still be $2.00 pier side in the US, even if it’s not yet $10.00. And if it’s more, I can certainly turn to Western US wine, which will force the importers to limit any increase as much as possible.

    Obviously, cars and such would be a different matter; but I can buy a Mazda instead of that Toyota I’ve been thinking of — and in any case, I suspect our trading partners are going to come to terms with remarkable speed. Trump has merely turned the terms from ‘please let our goods in,’ to ‘what would be fair? Let’s decide.’

    Figure a 5% increase, overall, in the end. Well, that’s okay. We’ll all be making more money as wages rise here in the US.

  232. @Mike Tre

    You, Colin Wright, and Buzz feel Palestinians (specifically and more so than other groups) possess fundamental or Constitutional rights…

    Wrong with regard to me. Flat out wrong!

    I never have said, and I never would say, that anyone has rights “specifically and more so than other groups”!

    I don’t give a good God damn about Palestinians, and I don’t like you putting words into my fucking mouth!

    My concern is about selective application of government powers on a limited number of people — ONLY AND SPECIFICALLY as service to one foreign country which happens to be Israel.

    It is Israel that is being given preferential treatment “specifically and more so” than other groups!

    GET IT RIGHT.

    You and the others are lost in your specific glee at seeing a handful of foreigners deported, while you don’t seem to give a flying fuck about how or why it is happening and the extreme government strong-arm tactics on what is essentially just speech. What is happening is extreme and uncalled for and sets a dangerous precedent with regard to American freedoms — YOUR freedoms and mine.

    Now I think I really am in a room full of the “lowbrow” MAGA retards they say Steve Sailer hates. Well, count me in with Steve then. Retards suck.

  233. MGB says:
    @Mike Conrad

    If Trump wanted to deport illegals he could send a couple of vans up and down the boulevard in Atlantic City. I’d bet the majority of people working at the lower end of the service industry are not here legally. But he’s fine driving down wages.

    • Replies: @epebble
  234. Moshe Def says:
    @res

    >Here is a Marginal Revolution discussion.
    Corvinus would gape that discussion board in a debate
    Trump set the price at $5,000,000 fairly recently

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @deep anonymous
  235. @James B. Shearer

    If all he’s writing right now is bad stuff about Trump and Vance, nah, he doesn’t sound too bright.

    We’ve got an opportunity right now to fix some things, and these guys, flaws and all, are on our side. If it all goes back to the ctrl-left and Globalists without MAGA getting some real power, we’re as fooked as the UK and EU countries.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  236. @Buzz Mohawk

    What is happening is extreme and uncalled for and is dangerous precedent with regard to American freedoms — YOUR freedom and mine.

    Bullcrap. They’re not Americans.

    You all are right that this whole thing is a Jewish controlled operation. They ARE picking specifically on Palestinians. Were there protests against Russia by Ukrainian students (are there any?), would they be singled out and sent home?*

    I think most of us here understand that. However, the precedent that foreigners that cause trouble in America CAN be sent right on home is a good one. Honestly, all this free speech worry talk, with tons of it on this website, worries me for an entirely different reason. From here on, any foreigner who is here legally at least, no matter how much harm for the country it is that they are here, will claim all sorts of rights and judges will bar deportations.

    Ron Unz & Co. don’t have too much concern about the Population Replacement Programme, which I know, this business is but an drop in a 55 G barrel. OTOH, he doesn’t interfere with what the writers are up to.

    I don’t really think Trump should have started this – there are millions of other scams and purely illegal ways that people are here that deserve more attention. However, don’t get suckered, yourself, into defending people who really shouldn’t be here. They are not “adding value” to America.

    .

    * BTW, I don’t agree with the holding of these people. Once visas are revoked, it’s fair for ICE, CPB, or whomever to come get them and deport them (along with millions of other LEGALLY arrived people who really ought not to be here).

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  237. Mark G. says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Give me a nationalist leader like George Washington.”

    I agree. The first five presidents Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were all great men and we were lucky we started off that way.

    All the presidents after that were at least decent until you got up to Wilson. The beginning of the 20th century saw the rise of the Progressive movement. Starting with Wilson, the Democrat party became the political vehicle for the Progressive movement. The 1924 election was the lone exception when the old fashioned Jeffersonian Democrat John W. Davis was picked by his party to run against Calvin Coolidge. Imagine that, having two choices for president and they are both good.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  238. @Mark G.

    ‘The New American magazine puts out a yearly rating of Congressional representatives according to how closely their votes adhere to the Constitution. Last year Ilhan Omar got 19 out a hundred…’

    I’m certainly not picking Ilhan Omar as a hill to die on. Israel aside, I doubt if I agree with her about much of anything. I merely see the accusations against her as unsubstantiated and motivated not by outrage at the the thought that a future congressmen might have lied once, but by an inability to defeat someone at the polls who is critical of Israel.

    If they did manage to remove her from Congress, it would be a triumph for the Israel Lobby, not for the rule of the law. So I hope she stays. Someday, when Israel no longer exists, we can revisit the issue.

  239. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    my one regret is we worked together on his hilarious Charles Laughton impersonation, but then somehow we couldn’t get it to air.

    Ach, I would have paid to see that.

  240. dearieme says:
    @Moshe Def

    Trump set the price at $5,000,000 fairly recently

    Obvs the value depends on whether you are buying or selling.

  241. @Dmon

    there won’t even be any way to check what’s real and what’s not.

    I’m not so sure, at least in the realm of law. One of the things that distinguishes Law from, say, News, is that the Law has its own curated corpus of official documents, including precedent caselaw, which is after all, likely how the court determined the brief’s AI cases were fake.

    In fact, if AI ever gets its reliability coefficients up, it may become much faster and easier to vet case law citations for accuracy and relevance by using it.

    Luddite law clerks need not fear for their jobs yet, though. AI is still pretty sucky.

    • Replies: @Dmon
  242. Well I hope you Trump supporters are proud of yourselves for backing a felon, former Hillary fundraiser and of course a WWE guest start.

    That really sounds like someone who paid attention in Econ 101 if he even went.

    This is the guy that you thought could start multiple trade wars and that it would *somehow* work out of the US economy.

    China just passed a 34% tariff on all US imports.

    Well that was fun.

    If you still have a trump sticker on your car this is probably a good time to remove it.

    • Replies: @epebble
  243. epebble says:
    @MGB

    No need to waste gas driving up and down anywhere. A beautiful rose garden EO mandating E-Verify will do the trick. That is one thing no one wants to utter. It is the emperor’s new clothes.

  244. @Achmed E. Newman

    However, don’t get suckered, yourself, into defending people who really shouldn’t be here.

    Again, flat out wrong!

    I am not defending those people. I am defending our sovereignty and our limits on government. I am defending the essence of what we are. This operation is being carried out to please Israel, and that is one of the things that is wrong with it.

    My words are not what you flippantly now call “free speech worry talk.” There are continuing moves to further limit OUR freedom to criticize Israel and things that Jewish people do. Israel and Jews are being elevated to special legal status — much as Blacks! and most non-whites and non-males have been. You and the MAGA retards on this site should at least understand that.

    Whatever other issues you just inserted in your comment, say “Ron Unz & Co. don’t have too much concern about the Population Replacement Programme,” or “… any foreigner who is here legally at least, no matter how much harm for the country it is that they are here, will claim all sorts of rights and judges will bar deportations,” are deflections from the important issue, which is: Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. You and the MAGA retards don’t know what you really are condoning.

    • Disagree: Achmed E. Newman
  245. @AnotherDad

    Agreed up through (and past) here:

    But … we still want better than dingbattery from our leaders. MTG would be a fine–at home baking cookies for her kids and posting on Facebook. But she lacks brains and rational judgement and should not be a “leader” in our movement, just cause she’s got spirit.

    I agree with you on all the look-at-me women, as you say. As a matter of fact, the prettier they are, the less trust I have in them. (That’s too bad, because it’s not necessarily warranted). Yes, the Pam Bondies, that Luna lady and others that Gateway Pundit keeps in the limelight, Nancy Mace (not sure if she’s hot anyway) in SC, Nikki Haley (though politically rotten anyway) all of them, are suspect from the get-go. Do they value principles over being seen and liked (and LIKED) by millions? No. They can’t help it, but no.

    Biig HOWEVER here, A.D.: MTG is the real deal. She’s in her late 40s so not hot by definition. You really should watch a video of her calling out the UniParty as all the Congressrats around her were voting for Ukraine money. I can’t find the interview right now by Tucker in which she explains very truthfully how all this works – the phone calls offering every-2-year campaign money in return for votes, etc. She surely ain’t no blonde bimbo.

    That said, I don’t want her as President. We need hundreds of Reps and Senators with her politics and spirit, though.

    .

    BTW, when I was looking for that Tucker clip on my own site, I did get to a post – MTG v AOC, Afterword: Women in politics – that goes right along with what you wrote. It’s a short post – I think you’ll like it.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  246. @kaganovitch

    Oh man, you missed a treat with that one: Phil Hartman in his best straight-man voice, calmly reading the bad reviews from the New York Times of Farley’s ludicrous performance of “Dog Boy,” and then Farley’s outraged responses to his critics. It doesn’t really get much funnier than that.

    Well, we live in a fallen world, don’t we.

    • Replies: @res
  247. @Mark G.

    Well, there were a lot of Presidents in there during the 1800s, after the generations of the Founders, so I could see some argument about a few of them.

    However, your mention of a more intelligent and civil ’24 Presidential election brought me back to that post of mine. Yes, 2 good choices hasn’t been seen since – I wanted to note that there was the 3rd choice, one Robert La Follette out of Wisconsin (of which he won the 13 electoral votes). He was a proto-Commie. From that post:

    La Follette was pretty strong as 3rd party candidates go, getting more electoral votes – that support from his Wisconsin home*** – than Ross Perot did in 1992 – he got none. However, Mr. Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote as opposed to La Follette’s 16.6%. The eminently reasonable John Davis got the lowest percentage of popular votes by any D candidate in history. The South went solid for Davis (did they think we was kin to Jeff Davis?), and New York City went for Coolidge. It was a different New York City… you understand…

    Just look and read about these guys, even the proto-Commie guy there. They were intelligent men. Principles of governance were being discussed, rather than, by necessity now, how quickly America is to be destroyed. None of the 3 of them had dementia or were bombastic egotistical bullshitters. What a country! What a difference a century makes!

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  248. @guest007

    Try looking up data instead of depending on outdated memes.

    First bing brings up 2020 SAT data:
    https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf

    Girls do not catch/outpoint boys in
    verbal
    — catch at top (though boys ahead 95-94 %tile at 650ish)
    — pass until 550–57-58 %tile

    overall
    — catch and pass 900, 24-25 %tile

    math
    — catch 350, 5th %tile
    — pass never

    And this is after the College Board dumbed down the test in 2005. Made it less IQy, eliminating verbal analogies and turning the math section from problem solving to “did you learn HS algebra” in order to be “fairer” to women and minorities.

    Furthermore–as I’ve pointed out a few times–girls are basically mature–young women–when they take the SAT at 16-17, the boys are still … boys, with a few years of brain development yet to go to become men. I got a good roll of the genetic dice and did well–99%tile–on both sections of the SAT, but I was still a few years from being full developed mentally. I’d say I was not into my full adult mental power until around 20 doing my undergrad mathematical physics and from their own out it was mostly learning more stuff and getting wiser about the world but the baseline mental capability was pretty steady–until the slow old age decline of the last 10 or 15.

    Men are–on average–smarter than women. And particular so in anything mathematical or spatial–thingy. Precisely the mental capability that correlates with productive endeavor.

    The educational disaster due to
    — male nature–girls have always been more compliant and willing to do the “sit still and behave” thing–
    — the extreme feminization and enstupification of schools and universities
    — career prospects and “what’s the point”
    with more and more stuff feminized, lots of b.s. jobs created for the girls with BAs–government, etc. but even in nominal engineering and industrial companies–and the most male (engineering and science) career tracks the most subject to H-1B immigration attack; and the demotivating, declining quality/attractiveness/marriageability of young women and ability to achieve, or even see a clear path to “marriage and family” success

    But the fact remains. Men do basically at the critical work our civilization actual depends upon–farming, energy production, power, engineering, manufacturing, transportation, distribution, invention. So this whole “you go grrl!” thing is a path to nowhere, even if the fertility disaster wasn’t a glaring logical rebuke.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @guest007
  249. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If the far right and the far left suddenly find themselves in total agreement over something like “free speech for illegal aliens” or “moral high ground” or other BS concepts, chances are that they are BOTH using these concepts not as a shield but as a sword to go after some mutual enemy, which in this case is Israel and the Joos. Otherwise what are the chances that they would agree about ANYTHING?

  250. res says:
    @guest007

    One needs to keep up with the latest data. females have higher, on average, SAT/ACT scores than males (the bottom end is just as important as the top end). Girls have higher verbal scores. There is a small and closing gap on the SAT math portion at the very highest end.

    Disagree with “the bottom end is just as important as the top end.” I am assuming you meant something more like “the rest of the range is just as important as the top end.” That is more arguably true (and the reason I gave my caveat). Nonetheless, when it comes to the best work, the top end does matter very much.

    One problem with having conversations like this now is the 1995 SAT recentering seriously compromised the SAT as a vehicle for looking at the top end. Two workarounds are looking at pre-1995 data and looking at the age 13 SAT data from the SMPY.

    This paper is the best reference I know of for pre-1995 SAT sex differences. Starting on page 14. In particular, see Table 1.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/j.2333-8504.2002.tb01871.x

    There for verbal we see a male advantage of 10 points for average and median scores. Also a 4 point larger SD.
    For math we see for males 50 points higher mean, 43 point higher median, and 10 point higher SD.

    Do you know of any comparable references for the current SAT?

    Regarding the SMPY there is a relevant discussion here:
    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/tilting-at-sex-differences

    In particular, note that reducing the discussion to M and V ignores the area with the largest sex difference: spatial ability.

    More on sex differences here. Looking at IQ tests. Most notable to me is the discussion of different age trajectories.
    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/sex-differences-again/

    Lastly, to look at the real top end for math let’s try something like the IMO.
    https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/gender-gaps-at-the-math-olympiad-where-are-the-girls/2015/07

    Here are the 2024 IMO teams sorted by # females per country team.
    https://www.imo-official.org/results_year.aspx?column=females&order=desc

    The performance gap is even larger than the participation gap.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad#Gender_gap_and_the_launch_of_European_Girls’_Mathematical_Olympiad

    Unfortunately the IMO hall of fame page appears to be broken right now. That seems the best place to get sex based results.
    https://www.imo-official.org/hall.aspx

    Some data showing top end math sex differences at age 5.
    https://stevehsu.substack.com/p/gender-differences-in-extreme-mathematical-ability

    This is not ability based, but provides an interesting look at sex differences in preferences, choices, and outcomes in the SMPY.
    https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2014/11/gender-differences-in-preferences.html

    Compare that to boys being held back much more than girls, falling way behind in middle class, dropping out of high school much more often than girls, that the top 10% of a high school class is usually more than 70% female, that 75% of valedictorians are female. Females are much more likely to go to college, much more likely to complete college, much more likely to attend graduate school. Remember, law school, medical school, dental school, pharmacy school are all majority female. And the MBA programs are majority female with many of the top programs still being around 50% male.

    In your litany of female superiority, which are not well explained by what I called “feminization of schooling”? In particular (IMO).
    – Being held back, falling behind, and dropping out are all symptoms of disengagement. Well explained by an environment I think suits girls better than boys.
    – Top 10% and valedictorian are both grades based metrics. Grades typically have a significant subjective component.
    – Presence in education beyond HS is more a matter of desire than ability these days. And many men have realized non-college (or non-postgrad) careers are better than the MORE education alternatives.

    I would also add your litany itself provides excellent evidence for “feminization of schooling.” (i.e. MORE females) Can you imagine the cries of “sexism” and “misogyny” if those ratios were reversed? Well, we don’t have to imagine it. We lived through it.

    Try looking up data instead of depending on outdated memes.

    If you are going to be like that at least give LINKS to your data.

    P.S. Is anyone else here amused by me being called out for not looking up data? Hopefully the references above are sufficient response to THAT. If not, follow that first James Thompson link and search for my comments there.

    • Thanks: Brutusale
  251. epebble says:
    @John Johnson

    CBOE (Chicago Board Options Exchange) Interest Rate for 10 Year Treasury (^TNX) is already 3.949

    That is what matters. Every 0.1% drop shaves 36 billion from interest payments from federal budget.

    Trump is pushing hard:

    President Donald Trump says Fed Chair Powell should cut interest rates and ‘stop playing politics’

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/trump-tariffs-jerome-powell.html

    Trade war is just a ruse. The real goal is lower rate.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  252. res says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if those visas include the tax obligations of being a US citizen? If so, seems like an ingenious double dip to me.

    • Replies: @epebble
    , @Almost Missouri
    , @res
  253. epebble says:
    @Jack D

    If Gulag for expressing disagreeable opinions is what is needed to stem the tide of disapproval, may be those advocating for that have to look into the mirror a little harder. If anything, those disagreeable opinions get more sunshine and disapproval may increase. That is not a winning strategy.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  254. @epebble

    Trade war is just a ruse. The real goal is lower rate.

    LOL some pretty creative damage control. Funny I don’t remember Trump saying that the real goal is a lower rate at any time. I do remember him saying Canada should have tariffs over Fentanyl even though his own government admitted that the vast majority comes from Mexico.

    Having a lower rate isn’t going to matter if you cut economic growth.

    Wells Fargo cut its US 2025 gross domestic product growth target to 1% from the 2.5% previously forecast on account of a weak start to the year and the aggressive tariff increases.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-04-04/us-jobs-report-for-march-and-market-reaction-to-powell-speech?srnd=homepage-americas

    So cutting interest while having to borrow more to make up lost revenue.

    What a difference a day makes.

    Hopefully more Republicans will get a clue and realize that allowing reality TV star to start multiple trade wars isn’t such a good idea.

  255. guest007 says:
    @Ralph L

    Howard University is 67% black and and is 72% female. It also has a six year graduation rate of less than 60% for male students.

    https://collegeresults.org/?a_ipeds=131520

  256. @Jack D

    “chances are that they are BOTH using these concepts not as a shield but as a sword to go after some mutual enemy, which in this case is Israel and the Joos.”

    Ah go on, now git along with ye, you despicable blood-spattered Nose.

    Shouldn’t you be busy butchering Arab babies?

    As if the “JOOOOOOOOOOS” had any sort of political enemies here in bought-and-paid-for J ZUSA. Keep dreaming, Joo.

  257. res says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Would it be in an archive (proprietary to SNL) somewhere? Any chance of something like that which never aired surfacing?

  258. guest007 says:
    @AnotherDad

    From https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/average-sat-score-full-statistics/

    Average SAT Score by Gender
    Men have consistently outscored women in the SAT since 2017. However, women have scored higher on the ERW section every year. Men scored higher on the math section.

    In 2024, men scored higher than women in total score by 11 points.
    Men score roughly 20 points higher than women in the math section each year. Women continue to be underrepresented in STEM fields, such as engineering and computer science.
    The scores of people who reported their gender as “Another/No Response” have significantly increased over time. In 2022, they were the highest scoring group by gender for the first time and were again in 2023 and 2024.

    And it is amazing that you consider healthcare and education as not a core part of civilization.

    • Replies: @res
  259. guest007 says:
    @res

    All the SAT did was recenter the score since the SAT test is mean to show where a student stands for everyone else. The SAT does not care about helping MIT or Cal Tech of determining who they should admit since both schools are so tiny compared to public universities.

    Claiming that men are smarter because they dominated at the top 1% level while that gap is shrinking but ignoring that men are much more likely to have the lowest scores never makes any sense. The SAT is much more important to determining who gets to major in engineering at UMich, UT-Austin, Georgia Tech than who fills the 12oo freshmen in MITs freshman class.

    • Replies: @res
  260. epebble says:
    @res

    Yes, if they are U.S. residents. If they remain non-residents and use the Trump card for easy entry and residence/business, then no. That being said, the demand for those Trump cards will likely be in single digits (or even zero).

    Interestingly, the Trump card has a picture of Trump and calls itself Trump card. ‘United States of America’ is mentioned at the top in small types, more as an afterthought. Altogether, it has the appearance of a high roller casino card from one the Las Vegas resorts.

    • Replies: @res
  261. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    LOL I am not obligated to answer any stupid questions you decide to dream up in order to help shape your false premises.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  262. @res

    Yeah, I sometimes wonder if these foreigners understand the serious downsides to US citizenship.

  263. res says:
    @res

    I looked at the Forbes article more closely.

    While Gold Card holders will have the right to apply for citizenship, the program’s design appears to cater to individuals who might not fully integrate into American society. Mr. Lutnick has acknowledged that most buyers will likely avoid it to sidestep U.S. taxation, creating a scenario where wealthy individuals can enjoy the benefits of U.S. residency without fully participating in its civic responsibilities.

    Regarding demand.

    U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick announced the sale of 1,000 Gold Cards this week, raising $5 billion in a single day.

    P.S. I suspect the demographics of the buyers would be interesting.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  264. Mike Tre says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “Wrong with regard to me. Flat out wrong!

    I never have said, and I never would say, that anyone has rights “specifically and more so than other groups”!

    I don’t give a good God damn about Palestinians, and I don’t like you putting words into my fucking mouth!”

    If you say so, Buzz. The implications are all over your words.

    “It is Israel that is being given preferential treatment “specifically and more so” than other groups!”

    OMFG, no shit, Sherlock. No one has denied this.

    “My concern is about selective application of government powers on a limited number of people — ONLY AND SPECIFICALLY as service to one foreign country which happens to be Israel.”

    You’re naive to think this only applies to Israel. Before 10/7/23, you don’t think there is a whole pecking order in regards to what people from what countries get to move to the head of the line of get a lot more leeway when it comes to their actions in the states?

    “It is Israel that is being given preferential treatment “specifically and more so” than other groups!

    GET IT RIGHT.”

    I am right. White Americans first, Buzz. All foreign invaders out. It’s pretty simple.

    “You and the others are lost in your specific glee at seeing a handful of foreigners deported, ”

    Putting words in mouths, Buzz? Not having any sympathy for an obvious trolling agitating POS who gets deported isn’t the same as glee.

    “while you don’t seem to give a flying fuck about how or why it is happening and the extreme government strong-arm tactics on what is essentially just speech.”

    More words in mouths, Buzz. YOU don’t give a flying fuck that he never should have been hear to begin with. Are you too old and weak to swim any further upstream than “muh free speech?” Here’s some news for you: Untold 1,000’s of white men have lost their jobs or worse for exercising their supposed right to free speech. Why don’t you play for your own team?

    ” What is happening is extreme and uncalled for and sets a dangerous precedent with regard to American freedoms — YOUR freedoms and mine.”

    See my previous comment.

    “Now I think I really am in a room full of the “lowbrow” MAGA retards they say Steve Sailer hates. Well, count me in with Steve then. Retards suck. ”

    Hey Doctor, heal thyself.

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  265. Hail says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    a book by Alfred Eckes (Opening America’s Market) on the history of tariffs in America

    I’ve today put up the Alfred Eckes chapter on the Smoot-Hawley controversy, in easy-accessible form. Even the laziest, lowest-initiative people can read it, if hand-delivered to them like this:

    Alfred Eckes’ study on the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930 and its long-lasting civic mythology

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2025/04/04/alfred-eckes-study-on-the-smoot-hawley-tariff-of-1930-and-its-long-lasting-civic-mythology/

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  266. @res

    Ugh, that’s a weird question. The problem with Farley was, he was sort of a magician in a certain way — meaning he could conjure up something on the spur of the moment that was utterly hilarious, but he couldn’t do the same thing a second time six minutes later, you just had to be there at the time.

    I would say, “Do that Charles Laughton thing that you did two minutes ago,” and he would be like, “What?”

    We couldn’t get the damn stuff down on paper fast enough, and even if we did, there was no guarantee that he could do it a second time. You needed a twenty-four-seven police body-cam to capture the brilliance of what that cat did. I once wrote a sketch for him where his only line, and I mean his ONLY single line, was “Okay”. And he brought the house down just saying that one word. It was surreal. He was a kind of magical presence, man do we miss him.

    • Replies: @res
  267. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer asks whether “protection of animal and plant biodiversity” should be “extended to human biodiversity,” citing the stone-age Andaman Islanders:

    North Sentinel Island News

    The Xenophobes’ favorite redoubt is back in the news: are the natives getting soft?

    by Steve Sailer
    April 04, 2025

    A large part of my writing career seems to have been devoted to keeping my readers updated on the latest happenings on North Sentinel Island in the Indian Ocean.

    North Sentinel is one of the Indian Ocean’s Andaman Islands, home to a race of steatopygous pygmy negritos. All the other islands have been contacted and brought into the larger world, typically with unfortunate consequences for the health of the Andamanese.

    North Sentinel, however, is surrounded by reefs that make approaching dangerous. And the North Sentinelese are traditionally formidably hostile toward outsiders, killing a large proportion of visitors, such as Chinese-American Christian evangelist John Allen Chau in 2018 and a couple of drunken Indian poaching fishermen who fell asleep and washed up on the beach in 2006.

    The North Sentinelese are not completely uncontacted.

    Indian anthropologist Triloknath Pandit worked for 24 years from 1967 to win the confidence of the islanders, leaving gifts for them on the beach while dodging their arrows (a National Geographic photographer was shot in the leg in 1974), before finally peacefully meeting them in the shallows in 1991. But the locals made clear they weren’t in the mood for more meetings, so that was the end of that.

    Now, another damn fool has landed on North Sentinel Island. From The Guardian:

    US tourist arrested for landing on forbidden Indian tribal island

    Police say man landed on island in attempt to meet the Sentinelese people – a tribe untouched by the industrial world

    Agence France-Presse in Delhi

    Thu 3 Apr 2025 13.10 EDT

    Indian police said on Thursday they had arrested a US tourist who sneaked on to a highly restricted island carrying a coconut and a can of Diet Coke to a tribe untouched by the industrial world.

    Mykhailo Viktorovych Polyakov, 24, set foot on the restricted territory of North Sentinel – part of India’s Andaman Islands – in an attempt to meet the Sentinelese people, who are believed to number only about 150.

    All outsiders, Indians and foreigners alike, are banned from travelling within 3 miles (5km) of the island to protect the Indigenous people from outside diseases and to preserve their way of life.

    Back in the late 20th Century, the Indian government planned to land on North Sentinel and turn it into a plantation. But concerned Westerners such as Swissman George Weber took up the cause of the North Sentinelese. They became famous around the world after an Indian helicopter was sent to see if any Sentinelese had survived the December 26, 2004 tsunami and found the natives as feisty as ever:

    The North Sentinelese are now role models for xenophobes everywhere.

    There have been two recent movies about them, the 2023 documentary:

    and the 2025 feature film Last Days by Justin Lin (director of numerous Fast and Furious blockbusters), which flopped at Sundance this year.

    Back in 2002, I interviewed the head of the Andaman Association for UPI:

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/north-sentinel-island-news

    [MORE]

    Q&A: Pygmy Negritos of Andaman Islands

    By STEVE SAILER, UPI National Correspondent

    LOS ANGELES, Sept. 6 (UPI) — In an era when we are routinely encouraged to celebrate diversity, perhaps no group of humans on Earth is more diverse yet less celebrated than the tiny but fierce Pygmy Negritos of the Andaman Islands in the Indian Ocean. They provide some of the best examples of what modern humans were like when they first emerged out of Africa dozens of millennia ago. […]

    George H. J. Weber, a Swiss independent scholar, is the founder of the Andaman Association and creator of the encyclopedic andaman.org Web site, which is the leading source for information on these almost unknown but fascinating people.

    Weber took time out to answer United Press International’s questions.

    UPI: Who are the Pygmy Negritos of the Andaman Islands?

    Weber: They are a group living since deep prehistoric times on the Andaman Islands in the Bay of Bengal. Although politically part of India, the islands are geographically closer to Thailand than to India. Until less than 200 years ago, the islands’ sole inhabitants were several tribes of Negritos. They had a fearsome and fully deserved reputation for killing any outsiders they found trying to land on their islands, from would-be traders to shipwrecked sailors. Their islands lie right across ancient sea trading routes, but no outside group has succeeded in establishing a foothold there until in 1858, the British established a penal colony and introduced convicts, jailers and diseases. Genetic evidence hints at a Negrito residence in the islands going back more than 30,000 years, and possibly reaching as far back as 60,000 years.

    Q: What are they like?

    A: Although living in the middle of Asia, they are totally unlike what we today think of as “Asian.” They look more like Africans or aboriginal Australians. Most are small to tiny (that is why they are often called “Pygmies”), and of slim and elegant appearance. The average height for adult men is just under 150 cm (4′-10.5″) and for adult women 137 cm (4′-6″).

    Their traditional technology is the simplest and most ancient still in use in today’s world. It is a technology of a sort that was in use in tropical areas around the world 40,000 or more years ago. In spite of its surface simplicity, their tools are in fact quite sophisticated and perfectly adapted to an uncompromisingly hunter-gatherer way of life. Bow and arrows and canoes are known, as are simple stone tools and basketry of high esthetic value. Most remarkably for a people with a Paleolithic technology and living as hunter-gatherers, they do have pottery — very simple pottery, but pottery all the same.

    Q: The protection of animal and plant biodiversity has become very popular in recent years. Should that be extended to human biodiversity?

    A: That is a hard one. […]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/north-sentinel-island-news

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  268. @Buzz Mohawk

    Retards suck, says Buzz. But it’s a good racket. Living with my elderly mom I end up watching a lot of television. Daytime TV is crowded with black women celebrating themselves at high volume and charity pitches for retarded kids. I spotted the same kid in an Easter Seal commercial and one for Shriners. That kid is a player. Mom says to me why can’t you do that.

  269. @Mike Tre

    I say nuke the site from orbit and haul ass before the Musk/Thiel borg swarm over the Earf.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  270. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    Second City Bureaucrat
    @CityBureaucrat

    The biggest white pill is watching wallstreet chimp out.

    The people who wanted us to believe an ESG index (a measure of how many non-asian minorities you hired and how many environmental patronage schemes you subsidized) was efficient, and that factoring it into investment strategies was a fiduciary duty, are mewling about tariffs imposed by the largest economy on earth

    Versus this, today, from Nathan Cofnas:

    MAGA Communism and the End of America

    by Nathan Cofnas
    April 4, 2025

    […] Two days ago, Trump’s tariffs came into effect. He called this “liberation day” because (as I understand it) he believes the tariffs will restore manufacturing in America and free us from the rest of the world that is “ripping us off.”

    The actual effect of the tariffs will be to halt the American economic juggernaut, discredit the anti-woke movement, pave the way for a left-wing populist like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, stop the right’s momentum in other countries, and bring an end to Pax Americana, which is the masking tape holding the pieces of the world together.

    Historically, the American right was better than the left on economics. But as the Republican Party degenerated into a low-IQ cult of personality, this was unsustainable.

    Trump was elected largely because he was the anti-woke candidate. His executive orders on DEI were a cause for celebration. But the point of fighting DEI is to pave the way for something better—not merely to attack leftists for its own sake. If we destroy America and go back to living in caves, then we will have “won” the war on woke, but that’s not the kind of victory that we should aspire to. The goal is to bring about a better world.

    Here I will explain how MAGA communism is based on lies and delusions, and everything is about to blow up in our faces. [….]

    mob rule by ignoramuses is not an effective long-term strategy to fight wokism

    https://ncofnas.com/p/maga-communism-and-the-end-of-america

  271. Dmon says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I’m not so sure, at least in the realm of law. One of the things that distinguishes Law from, say, News, is that the Law has its own curated corpus of official documents, including precedent caselaw, which is after all, likely how the court determined the brief’s AI cases were fake.

    For now. Some time in the 4th Newsom administration, some DEI law firm will submit a brief full of fictitious cases, and the California Supreme Court will issue a decision that the cases cited in the brief were “fake but accurate”, and that forcing attorneys to adhere to the body of official case law is racist. This will be upheld by SCOTUS in accordance with the precedent set by Grutter v. Bollinger, which established that accusations of racism trump all other considerations, including the US constitution. Chief Injustice Roberts will cast the deciding vote, after Chuck Schumer reminds him of those polaroids from the time he took the Cub Scouts troop to the petting zoo.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  272. @Mike Tre

    The question arose from what you started with me in #212. (It’s nice to be able to cite by numbers that don’t increase with blueberries on top!) Remember?

    Maybe you just needed someone to fling feelings at.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
  273. res says:
    @guest007

    In 2024, men scored higher than women in total score by 11 points.
    Men score roughly 20 points higher than women in the math section each year.

    It is far more interesting to look at this over time and also consider how the distributions (e.g. high end) differ.

    Here is a graphic showing sex differences in the SAT from 1967-2021. See link, I don’t think image is embeddable here.

    [OC] The gender gap in U.S. SAT scores over the years
    byu/triciachong indataisbeautiful

    Points of interest.
    – 2016 overall score increase. Nice stealth “recentering” there.
    – Notice how much the M-F gaps changed after 2016. Real change or the test massaged to improve female scores relative to males?

    Here is another way of looking at the SAT math results by sex. 2015 M/F ratios in 10 point buckets.
    https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/actually-50-years-of-test-scores-do-confirm-that-boys-outperform-girls-on-the-sat-math-test/

    Here are 2016-2023 SAT reports.
    https://reports.collegeboard.org/sat-suite-program-results/data-archive

    AFAICT 2016 was the last year they gave standard deviations by sex (how do you feel about removing data like that from official reports? do you think that helps or hurts the ability to analyze things?) so I will focus on that.
    https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2016-total-group-sat-suite-assessments-annual-report.pdf

    Sex | Critical Reading Mean/SD | Mathematics Mean/SD
    Males | 495/120 | 524/126
    Females | 493/114 | 494/116

    Do you know enough statistics to understand the implications of those SD differences or should I explain?

    Women continue to be underrepresented in STEM fields, such as engineering and computer science.

    Underrepresented based on what metric? Do you think the sex difference in spatial ability is irrelevant here? How about the sex difference in interests regarding people and things?

    Consider what I wrote here (this was in reference to Hispanic-White differences, but applies equally well to sex differences).
    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-forbidden-topic-race-and-iq/?showcomments#comment-6142558

    we have three potential causes in play.
    1. Differences in group abilities.
    2. Differences in group preferences.
    3. Differences in external treatment of groups.
    Any more? Simple noise is also an issue, but skipping that.

    Sex differences were much discussed during l’Affaire Damore.
    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-forbidden-topic-race-and-iq/?showcomments#comment-6142558

    This echoes the point above, but focuses more on the high end (e.g. STEM) and sex differences.

    I think the following priors are in play:
    1. High end differences are due to underlying innate differences in ability.
    2. High end differences are due to discrimination throughout the educational and work environment.
    3. High end differences are due to differing interests causing men and women to gravitate towards different fields. (notice this at least partially comes back to innate differences, but IMHO is less offensive because people are choosing for themselves in the end)
    I think all are reasonable explanation and have been present to varying degrees in different areas over time. But in the current Google example I would rank order them from most to least important as 3, 1, 2. Thoughts?

    More in further comments there. In particular, pay attention to the sex difference in people vs. things orientation. Then consider the implications for STEM interest.

    This is an interesting discussion if one can get past the oh so popular “girl power” and “differing outcomes are decisive evidence of discrimination” narratives which dominate current discourse.

    P.S. Are you still sure bringing up memes vs. data was a good way to frame our conversation? Which of our comments do you think is best represented by each of those characterizations?

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Brutusale
    , @Jack D
  274. @Hail

    Mr. Hail, firstly, thanks for posting this here. I note this is one of the non-paywalled posts, so I can read the full thing and the comments.

    I will have to write a post in praise of Mr. Sailer after all that I and others have written in criticism here. I don’t take it back, mind you. However, this article reminds me why I keep reading. I have enjoyed what I’ve read of this one so far (as I also did read some of his writings about this madness before). No matter what else, Steve Sailer is a great writer! He’s entertaining, informative, and truthful. Who else starts an article like this:

    A large part of my writing career seems to have been devoted to keeping my readers updated on the latest happenings on North Sentinel Island in the Indian Ocean.

    Very sardonic, witty, whatever you want to call that. I like it.

    North Sentinel is one of the Indian Ocean’s Andaman Islands, home to a race of steatopygous pygmy negritos. All the other islands have been contacted and brought into the larger world, typically with unfortunate consequences for the health of the Andamanese.

    He does seem to care about everybody. Not many writers, though, would include the proper terminology. Steve Sailer is not scared of being PIC, now non-Woke.

    Finally, this is not iSteve, but the French press out of New Delhi:

    Indian police said on Thursday they had arrested a US tourist who sneaked on to a highly restricted island carrying a coconut and a can of Diet Coke to a tribe untouched by the industrial world.

    Mykhailo Viktorovych Polyakov, 24, set foot on the restricted territory of North Sentinel …

    Wait, what??

    I gotta write that post on Steve Sailer’s behalf next week.

    One more” The North Sentinelese are now role models for xenophobes everywhere. ;-}

  275. @Jack D

    It’s a level playing field now, Jack.

    If you want to get anywhere, stop circling the wagons.

  276. res says:
    @guest007

    Claiming that men are smarter because they dominated at the top 1% level while that gap is shrinking but ignoring that men are much more likely to have the lowest scores never makes any sense.

    Just because you do not understand something does not mean it does not make sense. I think any informed person understands that men are over-represented among both high and low scorers. I certainly do. Here is one explanation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis

    I think the heterogametic males explanation there is at least a partial cause. I find that term a bit cryptic. They just mean males have one X chromosome rather than the two X chromosomes in females. This means recessive X SNPs in males act as if they are dominant. This can be both bad or good, but bad tends to be more likely (e.g. color blindness).

    Note how this explains the over-representation of men among high scorers even with equal or slightly lower averages.

    The SAT is much more important to determining who gets to major in engineering at UMich, UT-Austin, Georgia Tech than who fills the 12oo freshmen in MITs freshman class.

    I would argue both are important. I would also argue the recentering (both the 1995 official and the 2016 unofficial) hurt the ability of ALL schools to find those with exceptional math ability. Here are 25/50/75th percentiles for the University of Michigan SAT scores.
    https://nextadmit.com/blog/university-of-michigan-sat-scores

    So 780 math is 75th percentile for everyone. I wonder what the ranges for the engineering department look like. Surely being able to distinguish the top 25/10/5/1 percent is worthwhile?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  277. @Colin Wright

    Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan run an economic system completely unlike the Western one.

    Written in 2007

    https://www.fingleton.net/extract-from-in-the-jaws-of-the-dragon/

    To anyone who watches what the East Asians do rather than merely listens to what they say, the evidence is undeniable that the East Asian system is fundamentally mercantilist. This is particularly clear in the case of Japan which was the first East Asian nation to come under sustained market opening pressure from the United States. Although Japanese leaders have constantly proclaimed a sincere commitment to the principle of free trade, they have worked with great ingenuity to frustrate all American market opening efforts. Thus even today Japan continues, in targeted industries at least, to pursue a comprehensively protectionist trade policy.

    The results are abundantly clear in Japan’s current account surpluses. Though largely ignored by the American press since Japan’s financial bubble burst in 1990, these have continued to grow strongly with the result that the 2007 figure, at an estimated $201 billion. For Japanese policymakers mercantilism has thus proved highly effective in building wealth and, by extension, national economic power. The experiences of South Korea and Taiwan offer hints of China’s future trajectory. Both adopted the East Asian system in the 1960s, when they ranked roughly as low as China does today in per capita income. They proceeded to enjoy some of the fastest sustained growth in history. As scholar Robert Wade documented, in both cases per capita income measured in current U.S. dollars increased more than 20 times between 1962 and 1986. If the Chinese economy were to match South Korea’s 2008 income level, it would be by far the world’s largest economy, with roughly twice America’s total output.

    What Fingleton called the East Asian system (he was FT Japan correspondent for 20 years) he now (2022) calls the Confucian Model:

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-confucian-model/

    Much more could be said, but it should be clear that the United States desperately needs to take a closer look at the Confucian model. The conclusion is epochal. A system that rivals Soviet communism in its grim suppression of individualism is now powerfully outperforming American free-market capitalism. The outperformance is most obvious in international trade. On closer examination, the Confucian system’s superior wealth-creating capabilities are evident almost across the board.

    In short, we are witnessing a fundamental revolution in the human condition. The world is transitioning from an era when free societies did well precisely because they were free, to a new era in which authoritarian societies are doing well precisely because they are authoritarian.

    Maybe someone in the White House reads him?

    “For more than forty years, America’s once world-dominating manufacturing industries have become ever more hollowed out. One consequence has been that America’s trade deficits have gone from the merely frightening to the utterly scarifying.

    Instead of robustly building a consensus to tackle the problem, the economists have generally contrived to ignore it. The practical consequence is that America is having to borrow ever-larger sums from abroad.

    Not the least of America’s creditors is the People’s Republic of China. China’s holdings of U.S. Treasury bonds recently totaled $776.5 billion. That’s almost enough to fund a year of America’s gigantic defense budget. Put another way, it is more than twice the total revenues of America’s five biggest pharmaceutical companies.

    All this foreign borrowing has been necessitated by the decline—and in many cases the entire elimination—of America’s once hugely successful manufacturing industries.

    The ultimate indicator is the current account, which is the widest and most meaningful measure of a nation’s trade. America’s most recently reported current account deficit totaled $819 billion. That was up more than 80 per[1]cent in five years.

    The worst of it is that there seems to be no acceptable way out. Devaluation might work, except that the U.S. dol[1]lar is the world’s reserve currency. Most of America’s trade partners want to retain the status quo, and no U.S. president wants to be the one who dethroned the dollar.

    Basically America has been rendered the economic equivalent of a beached whale. No matter which way it turns, it can’t get much traction.

    Little publicized outside the economics profession, a contradiction exists at the heart of modern American eco[1]nomics. On the one hand, economic theorists have long tenaciously argued that the United States wins on balance from free trade. Yet on the other hand, with every year that passes, the protectionist nations have inexorably increased their share of world output—and they seem to have done so mainly at America’s expense.

    As Washington-based international trade analyst Kevin Kearns points out, the extent to which other nations have misled the United States is extraordinary. He comments: “There has never been any adherence to free-trade theory or practice outside the Anglophone world.”

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  278. res says:
    @epebble

    That is so Trump. I wonder what happens to these when a new administration comes in. $5M would be a much better deal if it turned out to be lifetime rather than a 4 year rental.

    See my other comment (and the Forbes article) for the claim they sold 1,000 of them in a single day.

    A little more here.
    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/what-are-the-benefits-of-donald-trumps-5-million-gold-card-how-to-buy/articleshow/119987614.cms

    Donald Trump earlier suggested that those who purchase his gold card would only be subjected to tax on their US earnings and not on their overseas income. This is believed to be a major upside of the gold card and many wealthy people avoid moving to the US because green card holders have to pay global tax.

    Trump is the first one to buy gold card though the program is not for AmericansTrump said he became the first person to buy the gold card and had no idea who would be the second. However, the program is not meant for Americans.

    So it looks like source of income and not residency is the key? That could pay off pretty quickly for extremely wealthy Americans with substantial foreign assets/income if they get the same tax deal. I wonder if we will get to find out who is buying these (I doubt it).

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    , @Corvinus
  279. Jack D says:
    @epebble

    There is no Gulag. The aliens who are being temporarily detained by INS are free to go as soon as transportation to their home country can be arranged and they agree to get on the plane. Nor are they being expelled merely for expressing “disagreeable opinions” but for supported avowed terrorists and enemies of the United States.

    The Houthi flag reads as follows:

    God is the Greatest
    Death to America
    Death to Israel
    Curse be upon the Jews
    Victory to Islam

    Note that Death to America comes BEFORE Death to Israel. Please take these people at their word.

    I can only say that I am “mystified” (not) why certain Men of Unz suddenly have such concern for “freedom of speech”.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  280. @Greta Handel

    Here’s the MSM report of what Rubio and others publicly said that Unz hyperlinked in his recent “The Zionist Destruction of American Higher Education” article you should check out:

    I see you’re still balking like a pussy by not quoting the arresting authorities. Apparently there’s nothing objectionable in that Politico article that you can point out. If their reason(s) for arresting the alien are bad, surely you can quote in full what they said so we can all be appalled by their terrible stated excuses…

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  281. Jack D says:
    @res

    Likewise at MIT the 25/75 for the math SAT is 780/800.

    However, this does not mean that MIT is completely clueless in figuring out who is who among their applicants. They just can’t do it with the math SAT anymore. One of the (few) advantages of the holistic admission system is that people who are strong in math are also submitting achievement test scores, scores from math competitions, etc. Once the students reach campus they are even more able to separate the men from the boys (and girls) and channel them into appropriate high level classes.

    A lot of the recentering, etc. was done for the usual stupid (“anti”) racist reasoning – blacks scored below average on the old SAT so let’s make the test easier and blacks will score higher. This is similar to women’s dress sizes where women don’t like to wear size 12 dresses even if they are fat. So dress mfrs. sew size 6 labels into size 12 dresses and their customers are happy.

    However, liberals are only clueless when it suits them to be clueless. For example, all the DEIversity talk did not not persuade a single liberal to move to the ghetto or to send their children to ghetto schools. When MIT has need for distinguishing people (AFTER they have let in a requisite % of females and minorities and not-Asians) they have no trouble in doing so.

    MIT has also made it clear that they are not at all interested in some sort of rank ordered system where they take the 1,100 strongest math students in America and send everyone else home. Even if the SAT ceilinged out at 1000 (and they are GLAD that it doesn’t) they wouldn’t change the way they are doing things. What the admission people said when I visited is that they regard some level of SAT (as a practical matter 780 unless you are black, in which case it is 700) as indicating that you are capable of doing the MIT curriculum (at least in certain Courses (depts) and once you have passed that bar they STILL have 20 applicants for every seat and then they apply their magic “holistic” system for choosing among those 20 people and rejecting 19 of them. They don’t like you any better because you have an 800 than a 780 (nor does it really make any sense that they would since the difference between a 780 and an 800 is one question wrong on the math section.

    Another interesting item is that while MIT discriminates by gender and race in admissions (even though they claim not to), once you get in people are truly free to sort themselves into different depts. (“Courses”) so the gender and ethnic composition of the Courses is widely different.

    • Replies: @guest007
  282. @deep anonymous

    As a rule attorneys as a class are illiterate computer users and if the computer did something they aren’t responsible. It’s one instance where ignorance is an excuse.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  283. res says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Thanks. I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about something recorded but not aired. IIUC now you meant earlier stages of working on the script and/or practicing.

    Another never aired Chris Farley sketch. Only made it to read-through.
    https://www.avclub.com/chris-farley-never-aired-saturday-night-live-sketch

  284. @John Johnson

    Excuse me sir but in your answers to a comment I recently made here on TUR, you seemed to celebrate the murder and alleged rape of a Texas man who lived in the Donbass. I believe the term you used is “buttraped”. You seem to have mistakenly provided a link to a paywalled article, and I was wondering if you could maybe provide an alternative link to media that would prove the voracity of your rape allegation.

    I am but a humble white man in Africa, and I don’t think a reasonable man like you would expect me to pay for reading an online publication that seems to publish news about Texas just to fact check one rather distasteful allegation? I also think that the responsibility for proving evidence this rather lurid allegation should rest on you, I should not have to go out of my way to google your claims if you seem perfectly capable of performing due diligence.

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/i-cant-produce-anything-interesting-right-now/#comment-7064999

    Respectfully, James.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  285. @Buzz Mohawk

    … the extreme government strong-arm tactics on what is essentially just speech. [e.a.]

    Just like the “mostly peaceful protests” of 2020. Sure, there was speech involved back then, but was it “essentially just [only] speech”? Same thing on these campuses.

    What is happening is extreme and uncalled for and sets a dangerous precedent with regard to American freedoms — YOUR freedoms and mine.

    LOL. You’re making a stupid category error. The arrestees are aliens: By established law, they do not have the same rights as citizens. If you just found that out yesterday, that’s pretty wild. Also, if you disagree with those restrictions on aliens, that’s pretty bad—“Invite the world!”

    Looks like previous ‘invitations’ in many categories are being rescinded:

    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1906785884990505013

    Buzz, this about sums it up—it turns out “Antisemitism!” vs. “the global majority” was a VI-trillion-shekel bill lying on the sidewalk that Trump and friends picked up are now cashing in. Some Jews have noticed Trump’s Jew-jitsu and are not amused:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/trump-anti-semitism-agenda/682285/

    TRUMP’S ANTI-SEMITISM AGENDA ISN’T ABOUT JEWS

    The administration is using the conceit of protecting Jews to protect its policies from criticism.

    [MORE]

    The Trump administration wants you to know that it’s just looking out for Jews. In recent weeks, the White House has cited anti-Semitism as the motivation for many of its controversial moves, whether deporting foreign students who allegedly engaged in pro-Hamas activism or threatening to pull millions of government dollars from Ivy League schools. “SHALOM COLUMBIA,” quipped the White House’s X account, after it canceled federal funding to the university over its “failure to protect Jewish students from antisemitic harassment.”

    But this branding is profoundly misleading. In reality, Donald Trump and his allies have been using “anti-Semitism” as a pretext to advance a radical agenda that has nothing to do with Jews at all—and that most American Jews do not support.

    Take the detentions and deportations. A handful of high-profile cases purportedly pertain to the targets’ anti-Semitic conduct. But most of them do not. In just the past month, the administration’s immigration agents have reportedly held a former Canadian actor for 12 days across three prisons; jailed a Harvard Medical School researcher for transporting undeclared scientific samples for her boss, and threatened to send her back to Russia, which she had fled; revoked the visa of the two-time president of Costa Rica, apparently over his criticism of Trump; and deported hundreds of Venezuelans—including a makeup artist seeking asylum and a Maryland father with no criminal record—to a notorious prison in El Salvador, some of them possibly on the basis of misunderstood tattoos.

    The push to purge outsiders from the homeland also explains the crude theatrics that have accompanied the administration’s actions. Having masked agents arrest the Turkish graduate student Rümeysa Öztürk on the street in broad daylight, sharing cartoons that celebrate deportations on social media, and filming Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem in front of shaved and shirtless prisoners in El Salvador are all stunts that don’t just target specific people, but sow fear among everyone else. Witnessing the recent roundups, many promising young foreign students will not want to risk coming to an American university, knowing that a change in political leadership could mean a sudden change in their status.

    The administration is similarly using Jewish concerns to cloak more aggressive aims in its efforts to defund American universities. Presented as an attempt to protect Jews on campus, these threats are actually part of a much wider war against American higher education, which Trump and his allies perceive as a citadel of hostile cultural power.

    “I think if any of us want to do the things that we want to do for our country and for the people who live in it, we have to honestly and aggressively attack the universities in this country,” then-Senator Vance told the National Conservatism Conference in 2021. Christopher Rufo, one of the most effective and forthright conservative activists against academia, told The New York Times last month that forcing “the university sector as a whole into a significant recession” would be “a very salutary thing,” and that “putting the universities into contraction, into a recession, into declining budgets, into a greater competitive market pressure, would discipline them.”

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  286. J.Ross says:

    Charles Grassley reports on inspector general numbers, huge number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border and we were not even trying to keep track of them.
    [Phptograph of Alejandro MYorkas smiling]

  287. Jack D says:
    @emil nikola richard

    Not really. Legally speaking the attorney remains responsible for everything he puts his name to. If you delegate the task to an incompetent paralegal, you would still be responsibly. If you used an old school non-AI computerized research too such as Lexis and you copied the results down wrong, you would still be responsible. If you did the research in an old fashioned law library and you failed to look in the “pocket part” which updates the printed volumes, you would still be responsible.

    Now it is true that some lawyers are idiots, especially when it comes to computer stuff and they may have not understood that it is possible for AI to “hallucinate” cases that don’t actually exist. However not understanding something (e.g. you don’t understand that cars don’t have the same stopping distance on wet roads as they do on dry roads) does not negate your responsibility any more than being drunk is an excuse.

    • Agree: deep anonymous
  288. Mark G. says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “A system that rivals the Soviet Union in its grim suppression of individualism is now powerfully out outperforming American free-market capitalism.”

    Except we don’t have free-market capitalism. We have a corrupt form of crony capitalism that benefits politically connected parasitic elites. For example, I have already posted a comment here that Fed inflationary policies drove up American wages and made American workers uncompetitive on the world labor market. This inflation from money printing was done so the money could be passed out to favored constituencies.

    So a lot of prosperity in China comes more from bad American policies like that rather than from good Chinese policies. I am old enough to remember how we were going to be surpassed by Japan before that country entered the economic doldrums for twenty years. China’s economy originally grew from the free market reforms introduced by Deng but in recent years Xi has been reversing course and engaging in increased government interventions in the economy leading to things like a big real estate bubble. China has its own set of problems.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  289. I’m on my third margarita again. It’s a warm day. I see we’re all arguing. Can’t we all just get along?


    That’s Rodney King. Some of you here now may be too young to know. If you don’t, look him up.

    There is nothing new under the sun.
    — Ecclesiastes 1:9

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  290. I am wasting my time here.

    Age: 65

    Weight this morning: 176.6 pounds

    Height: 6’2″

    Dick: 7″

    Health: Perfect. The “GOAT.”

    Financial situation: Independent.

    What the fuck am I doing here?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  291. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    That’s a good one, Gen.

    Now, could you please post some more esoteric music selections? You know, to cement your reputation here as an avant-garde man of taste and culture?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  292. @Buzz Mohawk

    No one is forcing you to be here and it sounds like you have issues.

    Did you have your faith in Trump or something?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  293. @Buzz Mohawk

    Now, could you please post some more esoteric music selections? You know, to cement your reputation here as an avant-garde man of taste and culture?

    I misspelled the first band’s name just to trigger your OCD. Kidding!

    Buzz, did you like the tunes?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  294. Mike Tre says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    His (most famous) arrest happened right along the border of Hansen Dam golf course, where I used to golf so much, it’s where I was when the OJ not guilty verdict game back. When the cops were acquitted of using unnecessary force against King, my high school closed down because of the ensuing riots.

    Up and coming funk rock band Sublime from Long Beach, penned this song in the wake of the rioting:

    I’ve long wondered, was the fact that Rodney’s last name was King – as in a clear association with Michael Martin Lufter da Kang- a significant contributor towards the subsequent racial unrest related to his arrest?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  295. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You want good song lyrics? Try these, by Marvin Gaye.

  296. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I enjoy all of your tunes, because I am always open to more art and sounds.

    Remember: I hosted a public TV show that included several musical artists and bands in my home state.

    This does not mean that I “like” every one of your selections, and it should not.

    Mostly, I am grateful to you.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  297. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hit that link – Rubio and a State Department spokesperson are quoted in the article.

    Next you’ll want it read aloud?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  298. @Mike Tre

    Thank your for your comment.

    At that time, my sister was living with a boyfriend who drove a Peterbilt truck, hauling dirt in double trailers. He talked to me about what happened to the truck driver in the middle of the riot.

    Every time something like that happens, a pall of fear falls upon America.

    They hit that driver in the head with bricks or whatever, and it is all captured on video from a helicopter.

    Humans create violence in many situations — just as other animals do.

    Do not ever allow yourself to become complacent.

    Is that the SAT word, complacent? Yes, it fucking is.

  299. @John Johnson

    I need this as entertainment. I am addicted.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  300. @Jack D

    I mostly agree with gay guy:

  301. @Buzz Mohawk

    I enjoy all of your tunes, because I am always open to more art and sounds.

    That’s nice to hear. Yes, I like to occasionally post “esoteric” (and also well-known) music here, usually on topic, for those who feel as you do.

    This does not mean that I “like” every one of your selections, and it should not.

    Agree!

    Mostly, I am grateful to you.

    Likewise, despite an occasionally friendly disagreement—sometimes I’ll throw rhetorical elbows, but it’s not personal.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  302. @Greta Handel

    Hit that link – Rubio and a State Department spokesperson are quoted in the article.

    Next you’ll want it read aloud?

    See, you’re too embarrassed to quote Rubio and that spokesperson: It would conflict with your straw man version of what they said.

    How are you going to defeat Zionism or support the First Amendment or whatever if you’re too scared to quote from a Politico article? LOL

  303. @Buzz Mohawk

    I need this as entertainment. I am addicted.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  304. Brutusale says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Speaking of spirited reps, just when I think the world can’t get any more irritating…

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/schumer-trouble-aoc-leads-him-double-digits-new/

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  305. @Achmed E. Newman

    “If all he’s writing right now is bad stuff about Trump and Vance, nah, he doesn’t sound too bright.”

    You think everybody on the other side is stupid?

    “We’ve got an opportunity right now to fix some things, and these guys, flaws and all, are on our side. If it all goes back to the ctrl-left and Globalists without MAGA getting some real power, we’re as fooked as the UK and EU countries.”

    Sometimes even guys on your side have to be pushed into doing the right thing.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  306. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You boys are struggling without Sailer’s Whimming and wry detachment. So I’ll put a few paragraphs below that you can try to justify as something other than throttling for intimidation.

    What this woman wrote — as a student in a university periodical about university governance — is perfectly mild compared to much in this thread. But because she had the temerity to put her name to it, hails from a different country, and picked the wrong side, she’s being terrorized by your rulers while you cheer for them online. (Yet somehow I’m the “pussy” for pointing it out?)

    Okay, here are the reported statements:

    [MORE]

    “Every time I find one of these lunatics I take away their visa,” Rubio told reporters at a press conference in Guyana. “Might be more than 300 at this point. Might be more. We do it every day.”
    Rubio’s disclosure of hundreds of visas being pulled came as he responded to questions on Rumeysa Ozturk, a Tufts University doctoral student and Fulbright scholar from Turkey who had her student visa revoked this week. A viral video reposted online by officials from the State Department showed Ozturk — who co-wrote an op-ed in a student newspaper criticizing Tufts’ response to the protests — being detained on the street by plainclothes Immigration and Customs Enforcement near the Tufts campus.

    Rubio confirmed that Ozturk’s visa had been revoked. State Department spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin posted on X that an investigation found that Ozturk “engaged in activities in support of Hamas.”

    “It’s just that simple. I think it’s crazy, I think it’s stupid for any country in the world to welcome people into their country that are going to go to your universities as visitors, and say ‘I’m going to your universities to start a riot,’” Rubio said. “We don’t want it. We don’t want it in our country. Go back and do it in your country.”

    • Agree: epebble
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  307. @res

    What are the biggest countries? The demographics of those buyers are probably going to start with Chinese.

  308. @Mark G.

    “U.S. manufacturing wages in 1970 were 3.35 dollars per hour. With a mild 2% increase a year they would be ten dollars an hour now. Instead, because of higher real inflation, they are 27.50 dollars per hour. By comparison, Chinese manufacturing wages are 5.70 dollars per hour. If you factor in things like the cost of transporting goods across the ocean, if American wages were only ten dollars an hour, we could compete better with the Chinese. The lower inflation that would have led to ten dollar an hour wages would also have led to lower domestic prices so you could easily live on that wage. ”

    This seems incorrect. If because of lower inflation the dollar was worth more than this would affect Chinese wages measured in dollars just as much as American wages measured in dollars. So if American wages with the more valuable dollar were $10 an hour Chinese wages with the same more valuable dollar would be $2.07 an hour. And the ratio would be the same.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  309. Pixo says:

    https://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/

    A pretty good case that Jimmy Saville was framed after his death by a huge MSM conspiracy.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  310. According to a NYT report, Trump has begun restoring the gun rights of some Americans.

    Colorado SB 3 has now passed out of the House and Senate and is headed to the Gov’s desk for signature.

    In a challenge to Washington, DC’s magazine ban, today we discuss the matter of Hanson v. DC in which 26 AGs have now weighed in via an amicus brief.

    Tariffs and Firearms.

    https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1908134708233564650
    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1908210483741528252
    https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/status/1908259643320914254

    • Troll: guest007
  311. @Moshe Def

    Didn’t Steve Sailer say that the “Harvard Number” was about $5M?

    • Replies: @guest007
  312. @James B. Shearer

    The problem is the costs are obvious and immediate and the benefits are delayed and uncertain.

    That is an excuse to put off buying health insurance, not an argument.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  313. @res

    “P.S. Is anyone else here amused by me being called out for not looking up data?”

    It’s not much of an exaggeration to say that, of all the people who post here, no one else is more data-oriented than you.

  314. @res

    I don’t understand. Why would Trump, a citizen, buy a visa? Is the card really a visa status, or is it a tax status? I.e., purchase exemption from taxes on foreign income for $5m? If so, that’s a terrible program. The US just shouldn’t collect taxes on foreign income. Other countries don’t. I can’t afford to purchase that exemption for $5m, but the amount of tax revenue the treasury collects from me doesn’t make it worth the effort of processing my tax filings.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Corvinus
  315. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    .
    .

    Why is it that you defenders of war crimes think that I will somehow excuse what you condone, just because my country did terrible things too?

    Wow. You totally ignore the comparison between today’s Hamas Gaza redoubt, and Hitler’s Berlin April 1945. Both places full of civilians occupied by a defeated army that won’t surrender.

    The “war crime” I originally mentioned, is by the way, the crime of mingling your soldiers among civilian populations who become casualties unwillingly. Held hostage by fighters who hide, hit and run.

    In 1945 Berlin the damage was done by Allied bombing and at the end, point blank ground artillery and tanks. German officers would not surrender until after Hitler was dead. Few blame the Allies or the Red Army in particular for those harsh tactics. Defeated armies must surrender or permanent truce.

    The Germans got what Hitler asked for and the Gazans are getting what the Hamas leadership asks for.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  316. @muggles

    ‘…If all you do is retreat and hide in the now defeated Capital City and shoot at the victorious army from apartments and tunnels, and increasingly large mounds of ruins, bad things will happen to hapless civilians you are hiding among…’

    What’s the point of ‘hiding among’ civilians if your enemy is perfectly happy to shoot civilians, even views it as a Mitzvah?

    Is t your contention, for example, that the members of the Jewish Combat Organization ‘hid’ among the civilians of the Warsaw Ghetto? Of what use would such a disguise have been?

    Ditto for Hamas.

    ‘Hiding’ among civilians only works if you’re facing a civilized opponent, with civilized scruples.

  317. @muggles

    In 1945 Berlin the damage was done by Allied bombing and at the end, point blank ground artillery and tanks. German officers would not surrender until after Hitler was dead. Few blame the Allies or the Red Army in particular for those harsh tactics. Defeated armies must surrender or permanent truce.

    Now then. You know perfectly well the Jews kill whether there is resistance or not.

    Look up the death toll in the West Bank if you have any doubts.

    • Replies: @muggles
  318. res says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Why would Trump, a citizen, buy a visa?

    It’s gold, has Trump’s name on it, and cost $5M (conspicuous consumption). What could be more Trump?

    Not sure if it has tax implications for citizens. I was speculating.

  319. @Hail

    I have some quibbles. For example, his argument that GDP per capita gains have not gone to the wealthy is based on an analysis that after tax income distribution is relatively unchanged. Also, his “you can buy anything now” analysis doesn’t address the issue of whether individuals buying smaetphones and $1.25 massive hotdogs at Costco is really an improvement over married people who didn’t have access to those things but skrimped to buy a little house together. There are so many issues tied to that little question. Economic analysis often focuses on how we make money–transition to a service economy–but less often on how we spend money (the structure of consumption) and what that implies for the non-economic aspects of life. Nevertheless, I am afraid Cofnas has a legitimate point about the inability of the country to go back to the economy of 50 years ago, even if that would be better for human flourishing.

    • Thanks: Hail
  320. mc23 says:
    @Mike Conrad

    Those who said he escaped have been fairly discredited but a recent German movie raised fears that he might rise from the dead

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  321. @muggles

    The Germans got what Hitler asked for and the Gazans are getting what the Hamas leadership asks for.

    And the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto got what their fighters asked for?

  322. @Pixo

    Is there a fifty word summary of this half-million word website?

    [MORE]

  323. @Colin Wright

    “That is an excuse to put off buying health insurance, not an argument.”

    Nevertheless it is a political problem. When do you expect substantial benefits to become apparent?

  324. @Almost Missouri

    Also, is New York’s oddly clean performance merely an artifacts of record-keeping differences or statistical manipulation?

  325. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer asks: “Should you send your kid to a bad high school?

    People are noticing his theory on the innovations in California elite colleges’ diversity industry relevant to his interest College-admission Politics. His theory was that, post-2023, elite colleges in California innovated a way to skate past the repeatedly-mandated anti-Diversity rules for individual admission-decisions (including the Supreme Court decision of mid-2023): The colleges are inflating acceptance rates from Nonwhite-heavy high schools, based on GPA.

    Group discrimination, based on high schools, replaces nominally-illegal individual discrimination based explicitly on race The sacred cause of reducing the share of White-Christians keeps its banner aloft:

    Should you send your kid to a bad high school?

    For acceptance into a famous U. of California college like Berkeley or UCLA, is it smarter for your kid to sweat through rigorous Lowell HS or coast through mediocre Mission HS?

    by Steve Sailer
    April 05, 2025

    From San Francisco Gate, a pretty informative about weird trends in U. of California undergraduate admissions — it’s now better to attend a lousy high school if you want to get into a world famous college like Berkeley or UCLA — although the journalists haven’t figured out yet what is actually going on.

    These Calif. high schools surpassed elite schools in UC admissions

    […] New data shows that in recent years, students at several California high schools surpassed the most elite schools in gaining admission to top University of California campuses.

    The University of California system released data this week that included the acceptance rates of all 10 UC campuses for the current academic year.

    In other words, data for applications, acceptances, and enrollments, by race/ethnicity by high school, for the freshman class that started in the fall of 2024. The acceptances for the fall of 2025 that went out a few days ago won’t be public knowledge until probably 2026.

    In examining the data, SFGATE focused on the two most selective campuses, UC Berkeley, which had an 11% acceptance rate, and UCLA, which had a 9% acceptance rate.

    It’s interesting how UCLA seems to have pulled ahead of UC Berkeley in this century on many metrics. Generally, college prestige is extraordinarily stable, so I’m not sure why UCLA has eased ahead of Berkeley. When I got an MBA at UCLA in 1980-82, it was, while being a very nice place, still clearly a notch behind Berkeley in fame.

    In San Francisco, students at Mission High, a public school with a large population of students who are economically disadvantaged or come from marginalized communities, had a higher acceptance rate for UC Berkeley than any other public or private high school in the city, the UC data shows. Of the 78 Mission High students who applied to UC Berkeley this year, 29 were admitted, amounting to a 37% acceptance rate.

    The use of racial preferences in California have been outlawed three times: by California voters in 1996’s Proposition 209, then again in 2020’s Proposition 16, and then by the Supreme Court in 2023.

    But Mission’s success didn’t stop at the San Francisco border. From 2022 to 2024, it had a higher percentage of students admitted to UC Berkeley than any other high school in California with more than 100 applicants, a data visualization by the San Francisco Chronicle showed (SFGATE and the San Francisco Chronicle are both owned by Hearst but have separate newsrooms).

    Note that San Francisco has a notoriously terrible public education system despite its vast wealth and many brilliant inhabitants, as I pointed out in my 2019 article “San Francisco vs. Frisco.” But that hard-earned reputation for bureaucratic indolence and incompetence doesn’t hurt Berkeley applicants from Mission HS:

    During that time period, 99 students out of 257 were admitted to the university for a 39% overall acceptance rate.

    Below, I explain what’s going on.

    [Paywall.]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/should-you-send-your-kid-to-a-bad

    • Replies: @muggles
  326. @Hail

    There are 7 zillion tweets today on whether tariffs are good or bad. Second City Bureaucrat’s tweet was different because he took no position on the tariffs themselves, but rather commented on the ethos of a category of anti-tariff tweeters, and did so in an amusing way.

    Nathan Cofnas is a bright and articulate guy, but he’s not an economist (he’s a biology philosopher, whatever that is), but even if he were an economist, it wouldn’t matter: economics is among the least predictive of sciences.

    Using physics, a physicist can make a prediction that has ~100% chance of being correct. Using economics, an economist’s typical prediction has about same probably of being correct as pure chance does.

    I’ve written before about physics vs. economics (and other social sciences), but reality is even worse. Physics can give you near 100% foresight on its subject with near 100% consensus. Economics can only deliver about 0% foresight with about 0% consensus on its subject.

    These zillions of tariff tweets aren’t worth pixels they’re printed on.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Hail
  327. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    We began our inflationary policy in the seventies and, according to Stockman, Volcker then came in and slowed it. Then Greenspan came in and began inflating again. This was combined with China moving away from pure Marxism so the combination of rising American wages and newly available Chinese cheap labor caused them to be a main beneficiary of Fed inflationary policies.

    There, of course, has always been poor countries with cheap labor but manufacturing did not move overseas before we began our high inflation policies. Why not? Because, while they had cheap labor, we had cheap labor too plus a free market economy. What would be the alternative explanation?

    The best example is America 1865-1915, the fifty year period when we had our fastest economic growth. Yes, we had tariffs. We also were on the gold standard, though, which led to no inflation and kept American wages from inflating. We had secure property rights, which encouraged investment. We did not have over regulation and we had low taxes because of federal government spending only being five percent of GDP. What we have been doing the last fifty years has not worked so we should go back to what did work and made this country the wealthiest one on the planet.

  328. J.Ross says:

    Isn’t it strange
    That ev’ry cultural change

    • Disagree: Hail
  329. J.Ross says:
    @Almost Missouri

    A biology professor is a dude who has memorized a lot of vocabulary and learned one day of chemistry and other than that he’s an economist.

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
  330. Old Prude says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    At least traditional Chinese medicine wont HURT you. Traditional Western medicine was barbaric and harmful. Think bleeding, leaches, etc…

    I had an Arabian horse that developed some kind of issue with her haunch where there was a constant spot of sweating. It went on for almost a year with no improvement. Our vet was dabbling in acupuncture. He tried a technique he called “Circle the Dragon” if I recall correctly. Within days the problem was gone.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @HA
  331. Old Prude says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    What’s that Arab guy doing with Vance’s meemaw?

    AK-47. Commie gun. I won’t have one in the house. My sister gave me a book about the AK-47. By the end I was thoroughly convinced it was engineered by the German weapons designer captured by the Soviets. The fellow the Commies tagged as the inventor, some Russian artillery officer, was a drunk and kept changing his story.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  332. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Yes, that’s me. I had a lot of fun at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. Stephen King stayed there, and he based The Shining on it.

    As I’ve mentioned before, my girlfriend was an actress in their summer theater, and they gave her a room for the season. We thoroughly enjoyed it.

    All work and no play make Buzz a dull boy.

    Oh by the way, the Sundance Film Festival is moving to Boulder, beginning in 2027.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  333. @Mark G.

    “What would be the alternative explanation?”

    There is another piece of the picture I think you’re missing in this analysis. The other big factor was the end of the Cold War, which greatly increased the mobility of goods and to a lesser extent, people. Before the end of the Cold War, it wasn’t feasible to have large trade flows between the US and China.

    Think of it this way. Prior to the end of the Cold War, US big corporate could have tried outsourcing their manufacturing to, say, Africa. But regardless of the pap they tell us and pretend that we are supposed to believe, NOBODY thinks you could run global manufacturing through Africa like they were able to do through China.

  334. @Mark G.

    I agree that our capitalism is by no means 100% “free market”*, but it does have stuff like legislation against cartels – which OTOH are actively encouraged in the Far East.

    “we were going to be surpassed by Japan before that country entered the economic doldrums for twenty years”

    And yet during that time Japan established market leadership in many of the technologies that the modern world relies on – ultra-pure silicon for chip making, carbon fibre for aircraft wings, the tiny bearings for the motors that power drones.

    ” China has its own set of problems.”

    I’ve been reading about “ghost cities” for twenty years now. And China’s problems are nothing compared to ours. They have a pretty homogenous population, work ethic, high IQ, worldwide diaspora well disposed to the Mother Country …

    * under political pressure (because UK people can’t afford to buy houses), UK financial institutions are planning to fix this by … lending people even more !

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/apr/05/mortgage-lenders-looser-affordability-rules-regulator-uk-customers-borrow-more

    “some worry that letting people borrow more will push up house prices even faster”

    You don’t say!

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  335. Something actually worth reading in the Guardian – wonders will never cease.

    Social progress once came hand-in-hand with economic progress. Now, instead, social progress has been offered as a substitute for economic progress.

    For the better part of the last decade, both consumers and employees have observed a marked contrast between multinational brands promoting wholesale social transformation, with bold proclamations for equity and justice for marginalised communities, while simultaneously being some of the single greatest contributors to the decline in living standards across the vast majority of the western world.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/05/marketing-advertising-industry-far-right-activism

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Jonathan Mason
  336. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer worries about the USA’s rise in cancer among under-50s in the 2020s. He suspects one or more of following four things are behind the rise in cancer deaths:

    (1.) Covid (i.e., the Wuhan Terror-Virus of 2020. Cancer being presumably one effect of “Long Covid”);

    (2.) “The covid vaccine”;

    (3.) “Covid-related obesity”;

    (4.) “The general increase in shoddiness in American life during covid”:

    Uh-Oh: Cancer death rates for Americans under age 50 increased in 2024

    by Steve Sailer
    April 05, 2025

    I created this graph from the CDC WONDER database of death rates for “malignant neoplasms” (i.e., cancers).

    Cancer death rates should go down every year due to better medical care. For example, I was diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphatic cancer on my 38th birthday in December 1996. A few weeks later, being on the Internet ahead of most people, I happened to see notice of a local clinical trial for the standard chemotherapy plus the world’s first successful monoclonal antibody, Rituxan.

    So, I’m still here.

    But … from the New York Times opinion section:

    Why Are So Many Young Adults Getting Cancer?

    April 4, 2025

    By Daniela J. Lamas

    Dr. Lamas, a contributing Opinion writer, is a pulmonary and critical care physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.

    […] The rates of what is termed early-onset cancer — cancer diagnosed in those under 50 — are rising. While the overall numbers remain relatively small, these cancers tend to be aggressive. The average person reading the headlines about this may wonder how worried to be and what, if anything, they can do to diminish their risk.

    […] Rising cancer diagnoses among younger adults are not attributable solely to increased or earlier screening. […] Researchers point to multiple potential causes, many of which are related to one another and hard to parse. Unhealthy diets that promote inflammation and cancer are one possibility. There’s also increasing data that suggests chronic alcohol use can cause damaging changes to DNA that can lead to cancer. The rise in sedentary lifestyles and related obesity may have a role. There are concerns over people’s exposures to chemicals in plastic products, though the data remains meager.

    This isn’t a problem that can be solved by avoiding plastic cups. This is about aggregate behavior and exposure. Every cancer diagnosis is the result of many factors — not just junk food or environmental toxins, but also genetics and bad luck. Trying to determine which personal choice to make is deeply confusing. Which is why Americans and the medical community need rigorous scientific research to guide us.

    That is where Mr. Kennedy could step in.

    That was my idea awhile ago [“RFK Jr.: Son of the Sixties,” Nov. 23, 2024]. Obviously, RFK Jr. is not cut out to manage a huge agency, but he might do some good heading a blue ribbon commission into his one or two actual good ideas.

    I originally graphed cancer death rates for age 0 to 49, and found much the same thing:

    And got much the same result: a broad decline for the first two decades of this century followed by a small increase in 2024.

    I worried that the age 0 to 49 result was due to Americans getting older on average so I narrowed the age range to 45 to 49, with the result you see in the first graph.

    Why did death rates from cancer for a particular age group stop going down a couple of years ago and rise in 2024?

    Covid?

    The covid vaccine?

    Covid-related obesity? (To my surprise, getting fatter doesn’t increase your number of cells, just how fat each cell is. On the other hand, being tall like me means you have more cells that might malfunction and try to kill you, like some of mine did in the later 1990s.)

    The general increase in shoddiness in American life during covid?

    Who knows?

    But we need to find out.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/uh-oh

    If reasons (2.), (3.), and (4.) are right, this may amount to Sailer issuing one of his several indirect mea culpas for supporting the Lockdowns in 2020.

  337. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    And if you’re not afraid to hit that [MORE], there’s another detail worth Noticing:

    A viral video reposted online by officials from the State Department showed Ozturk — who co-wrote an op-ed in a student newspaper criticizing Tufts’ response to the protests — being detained on the street by plainclothes Immigration and Customs Enforcement near the Tufts campus.

    I posted something the other day about how the Diffident Right authors of TUR would keep their cameras pocketed if they saw a rendition like this on the street where they live.

    Would you, though, LARP as grip for the ICE film crew?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  338. Mark G. says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “China’s problems are nothing compared to ours”

    Well, they certainly don’t suffer from our woke politics. I consider that to be the major problem for us, though it may be receding a bit with the election of Trump. I am a bit surprised I have not seen much in the way of comments here about the new woke Snow White movie flopping, another sign of receding wokeism.

    China, though, has the same problem of low birthrates and an aging population that the United States and Europe has. They no longer have a large pool of young labor. Wages are going up and manufacturing is starting to shift to other places with lower cost labor like Vietnam or Bangladesh.

    John Derbyshire has written the major issue of the 21st century will be people trying to move from the south into the low birthrate countries of the north, not just America and Western Europe but also Russia, China, Japan, South Korea etc. So far the Asian countries, due to their lack of wokeism, have been able to resist this better. It would be a good idea, though, if the United States, Europe, Russia and China formed an alliance to deal with this. China and Russia do not need to be our enemies.

    • Agree: deep anonymous
  339. @James B. Shearer

    Sometimes even guys on your side have to be pushed into doing the right thing.

    Right. That’s what my blog’s for. I’d like to push some of the people on our side to give MAGA and Trump (Vance too) credit where it’s due. You don’t win by infighting. They are generally on the right track,

    • Replies: @Moshe Def
  340. @Brutusale

    Ha! There’s no love lost between me and Chuck Schumer, no matter what kind of reptilian shape changes he’s been up to (same as Gavin Newscum).

    AOC as Senator from NY? Could she be worse than the Hildabeast even? AOC is about 30 IQ points lower but has a much nicer body. I’d rather see AOC and her “Look at me! I’m a Socialist! How do I look in this raspberry beret?” clown show, honestly, than someone more competent that can do more evil. That’d be Schumer, as it was with the Hildabeast.

    Thanks for the story, Brutusale.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  341. Hail says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Guardian page you linked to recommended this to me:

    I was a British tourist trying to leave America. Then I was detained, shackled and sent to an immigration detention centre

    Graphic artist Rebecca Burke was on the trip of a lifetime. But as she tried to leave the US she was stopped, interrogated and branded an illegal alien by ICE. Now back home, she tells others thinking of going to Trump’s America: don’t do it

    April 5, 2025

    Just before the graphic artist Rebecca Burke left Seattle to travel to Vancouver, Canada, on 26 February, she posted an image of a rough comic to Instagram. “One part of travelling that I love is seeing glimpses of other lives,” read the bubble in the first panel, above sketches of cosy homes: crossword puzzle books, house plants, a lit candle, a steaming kettle on a gas stove. Burke had seen plenty of glimpses of other lives over the six weeks she had been backpacking in the US. She had been travelling on her own, staying on homestays free of charge in exchange for doing household chores, drawing as she went. For Burke, 28, it was absolute freedom.

    Within hours of posting that drawing, Burke got to see a much darker side of life in America, and far more than a glimpse. When she tried to cross into Canada, Canadian border officials told her that her living arrangements meant she should be travelling on a work visa, not a tourist one. They sent her back to the US, where American officials classed her as an illegal alien. She was shackled and transported to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) detention centre, where she was locked up for 19 days – even though she had money to pay for a flight home, and was desperate to leave the US.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centre

    It sounds like the Canadian border officials were the ones who flagged her, perhaps by mistake; but the U.S. side made a bigger mistake. The Trump border-people dumped this woman in a dungeon with Blacks, Mestizos, and (probably) a Chinese scammer or two, and forgot about her for a few weeks. (Maybe they were having their Mossad friends run ultra-deep background checks on whether she had ever criticized Israel or expressed sympathy for Palestinians.)

    Why are the Trump border people detaining White-female backpackers? This is one of dozens of cases of White-Europeans harassed and jailed by these border people, in ways reminiscent of the Cold War or the like. But what is the point? White-female backpackers? (An accompanying photograph shows that Rebecca Burke is a genuine full-White woman; the name is not a misdirection.)

    Who made the decision? Are the Trump border-officials as anti-European as J. D. Hare Krishna Vance?

    My view: Much of the Trump-II agenda is well-intentioned but is being carried out poorly. That’s putting it generously.

  342. guest007 says:
    @Hail

    For cancer, the diagnosis per capita rate is much more important than the death rate. If the diagnosis rate has gone up, the something is happening to increase cancers. If the death rate is going up without the diagnosis rate, then the cause is probably our medical system.

    Also, cancer takes a long time with ten years being close to the minimum in time from some event such as dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima versus seeing increased cancer rates.

  343. HA says:
    @Old Prude

    “At least traditional Chinese medicine wont HURT you.”

    Tell that to the rhinos and tigers.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  344. @Hail

    That’s putting it generously copingly.

    Tee shirt or bumper sticker: Don’t blame me – I voted for nobody!

  345. epebble says:
    @Hail

    One thing to be said about ICE’s newfound xenophobia – it is completely ‘equal opportunity’ – everybody is mistreated equally so that no one can accuse them of racism or ethnic discrimination. They have abused (and are abusing) folks from Canada, U.K., Germany, France, Asia, South of the border, everyone with zest. ‘Good’ thing is these foreigners are getting the hint and are not travelling to U.S. anymore. That will make the airplanes less crowded, hotel rooms will be readily available at good rates and lines will be shorter at attractions.

  346. @Hail

    Steve Sailer had his life saved with that miracle drug he mentioned. Even so, there have been diminishing returns even after the massive money spent via radiation, chemo, and all the rest.

    This is a big plus for starting one’s y-axis at 0. (There are only a few exceptions.). One can see that there is no serious up-tick, actually, so kudos to Mr. Sailer for being graphically honest.*

    So what problem do we have? Mr. Sailer’s been implying that RFK, Jr. will introduce woo-woo stuff that will hinder “the science”. With these diminishing returns from the best and very costly methods we’ve got, I don’t see how it would hurt to have RFK, Jr. introducing some different (non-mandatory!) health care initiatives.

    Regarding your last point, I’d be glad to see ONE, just ONE “I was wrong about …”, even without a mea culpa. After all, it’s his blog, so he doesn’t have to explain his being wrong. Admitting he was would be fair thing and a nice gesture.

    The general increase in shoddiness in American life during covid?

    Right, as in even in the cancer floors at the hospital. The modern post-covid stupidity does not stop at the Wendy’s counter.
    .

    * That’s not to say that zooming in on the y-axis is numerically dishonest, but for readers who don’t really do numbers, it purposely gives an impression that causes alarm.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Hail
  347. @Achmed E. Newman

    For an extreme example of graphical alarmism, see the graphs from these 2 Peak Stupidity posts – Part 1 and Part 2.

    2 graphs of Ice Mass on top of the continent of Antarctica:

    Which one is the real one? Answer below.

    ANSWER: Trick question! They are both the same graph.

  348. Hail says: • Website
    @epebble

    There’ll be plenty more space for the “highest numbers ever” of H1B’ers from India. Sponsored by Elon, “Vivek,” and Hare-Krishna Vance.

    That is, unless any of their low-wage foreign pets have criticized Israel. In which case they’ll get disappeared. The dungeon treatment; or, maybe, sent straight to Yemen to be killed in Mossad-directed air-strikes in these people’s latest boutique war.

    U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

    • Replies: @epebble
  349. epebble says:
    @John Johnson

    OK, we can settle on a neutral ‘analysis’. Being POTUS and not having to worry about reelection and a Congress that likes to pass the buck leads to …

    ‘He Doesn’t Give a F**k’: White House Official Tells Washington Post Trump Has Reached Peak ‘Not Giving a F**k’
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/he-doesnt-give-a-fk-white-house-official-tells-washington-post-trump-has-reached-peak-not-giving-a-fk/

  350. @Mark G.

    “There, of course, has always been poor countries with cheap labor but manufacturing did not move overseas before we began our high inflation policies. Why not? Because, while they had cheap labor, we had cheap labor too plus a free market economy. What would be the alternative explanation?”

    The alternate explanation is that transportation costs have dropped dramatically due to among other things the invention of the shipping container. According to Wikipedia :

    “Malcom Purcell McLean (November 14, 1913 – May 25, 2001)[1] was an American businessman who invented the modern intermodal shipping container, which revolutionized transport and international trade in the second half of the twentieth century. Containerization led to a significant reduction in the cost of freight transportation by eliminating the need for repeated handling of individual pieces of cargo, and also improved reliability, reduced cargo theft, and cut inventory costs by shortening transit time. Containerization is a major driver of globalization.”

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Mark G.
  351. Hail says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    there is no serious up-tick

    The way I’d read the graph is not to look at the absolute up-tick but the lack of a sustained “down-tick.” The trend-line is sustained in a downward direction, ca.1995 to ca.2015. The flattening-out of the curve suggests something began to go wrong, with more deaths than should have happened starting around the mid-2010s,

    Also we should remember these are cancer-deaths, not traffic-accident deaths. Cancer-deaths will tend to be tied to a period years earlier, cancer often taking many years to kill. An accumulative problem. The data in the graph being tied to specific years may not be about those years at all, but about accumulated problems over x years prior.

    A weak inflexion-point in the trend-line ca.2015 means “something may have been going on” already in the 2000s. We face the Deaths of Despair and White Death phenomena.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  352. @epebble

    What specifically do you Agree with up in #307?

    • Replies: @epebble
  353. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    I calculated the age-45-to-49 “White non-Hispanic Only” cancer-death rates, by region, for 2019 and 2024. Here: https://www.stevesailer.net/p/uh-oh/comment/106199793

    My finding: Red-State Whites were hardest hit. In the 2019-to-2024 period, rates of cancer-deaths for White under-50s in the Northeast and West went down at about the same rate as they had in the 1995-to-2015 period. For under-age-50 Whites in the Midwest and South, the cancer-death rates showed almost no decline. They decidedly broke out of the trendline at some point in the past decade.

    This reminds me very much, too, of Charles Murray’s Coming Apart, on the fracturing of life-outcomes in White America between the 1960s and 2000s.

  354. @Hail

    I get both our points, that the downward trend hasn’t continued, which I mentioned, and that there’s time lag. These are per-capita deaths, so it means to me that there haven’t been improvements in the medicine and/or American’s lifestyles. (Pretty sure on the latter!)

  355. @James B. Shearer

    Thanks, James. I was going to mention the same thing, inexpensive container shipping. No matter the upticks in the mid-00s, Bai Dien’s “I did that”, etc., as compared to other goods, oil has remained cheap. (Right now, the silver in 2 silver – pre-1964) dimes will get you more than a gallon of gas, were the cashier not to have his head up his ass about REAL money. The 2 dimes would have gotten you about a gallon in 1964.)

    To think, it’s obviously worth it to ship logs from Canada or the PNW across the Pacific Ocean to China, make it into shoddy furniture, and ship it all the way back to the US, rather than having it made in North Carolina. Let’s change that. Go Trump!

    Secondly, no matter the other reasons brought up, it was that China was not considered an enemy anymore after Mao’s death, and especially a few years later when Deng implemented “Socialism with Chinese Characteristics”, aka, “Ditch the Economic part of Communism” that American Big-businessmen would have thought about doing business over there.

    Before that, even as enemies, America shipped corn to China to help during the starvation periods caused by Chairman Mao. It was feed corn… but beggars can’t be choosers.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  356. Corvinus says:
    @Mike Tre

    Ron is desperately trying to drum up readership for his material, hence his blatant promotion of his own work on the iSteve sandbox.

  357. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “The alternate explanation is that transportation costs have dropped”

    It does not have to be one or the other. It can be both. Embrace the power of AND.

    There would obviously be other reasons beside the inflationary policies of the Fed leading to American wages rising and making American workers uncompetitive on the world labor market for manufacturing moving overseas As I said, if the Chinese had continued to exist under pure Marxism they might still be quite poor. They owe quite a bit to reformers like Deng. Also Sir John James Cowperthwaite introducing a more free market economy in Hong Kong demonstrated the Chinese could prosper under such a system and acted as an example for the mainland.

    Another unfortunate aspect of Fed inflationary policies is that it increased income inequality. The inflation created stock market and real estate bubbles and, since ten percent of the population own ninety percent of stocks and a large portion of the nation’s real estate, they have become much richer. If Trump really cared about the working class and reducing income inequality he would advocate a deflationary policy.

  358. EdwardM says:
    @Hail

    Who made the decision? Are the Trump border-officials as anti-European as J. D. Hare Krishna Vance?

    My view: Much of the Trump-II agenda is well-intentioned but is being carried out poorly. That’s putting it generously.

    Malicious compliance? The bureaucrats who arranged this are probably high-fiving themselves for the negative publicity.

    Or, as epebble says, a conspicuous action to appear non-racist. Like when TSA started, they went out of their way to not provide secondary screening to scruffy smelly bearded Muslims but rather to strip-search little old ladies.

  359. @Old Prude

    AK-47. Commie gun. The fellow the Commies tagged as the inventor, some Russian artillery officer, was a drunk and kept changing his story.

    https://tubitv.com/movies/655379/ak-47-kalashnikov

    [Note: english transcription in YT comments.]

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  360. @Hail

    What’s the estimated Covid deaths in PRC?

    [5:00]

    But why would their mortality from Covid be so much different from other countries?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  361. @Jack D

    There are certain animals that do not breed in zoos.

    Reminds me of the Star Trek where aliens capture Kirk and Y Rand for their zoo and decide that human beings require freedom so much ( I wish) that they will not breed in captivity

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  362. WDCB.org’s Those Were the Days for today features William Conrad, yeah, the fat detective from the 1970s Cannon television series.

    He was actually a radio star in the 1950s.

    Listen live @1PM Central or on their two-week archive.
    https://wdcb.org/archive

    SPOTLIGHT ON WILLIAM CONRAD

    GUNSMOKE (10-16-55) “Trouble in Kansas” starring William Conrad as Marshal Matt Dillon, with Parley Baer as Chester, Georgia Ellis as Kitty, Howard McNear as Doc. Matt and Chester encounter a trail boss whose cattle drive has been beset by a gang of jayhawkers. Cast: Lawrence Dobkin, Barney Phillips, Harry Bartell. L & M Cigarettes, CBS. (22 min) Read the article about William Conrad in the Spring 2025 issue of Nostalgia Digest.
    FAVORITE STORY (10-15-46) “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” starring William Conrad in a radio adaptation of the story by Robert Louis Stevenson, about a scientist who invents a formula that transforms him into a monster. Ronald Colman hosts. Syndicated. (27 min)
    ADVENTURES OF PHILIP MARLOWE (4-11-50) “The Anniversary Gift” starring William Conrad as Marlowe, substituting for star Gerald Mohr. A man hires Marlowe to find the watch he had given to his wife as an anniversary present. With Harry Bartell, Edgar Barrier, announcer Roy Rowan. Sustaining, CBS. (29 min)
    ESCAPE (1-14-48) “Leiningen vs. the Ants” starring William Conrad in the story of a plantation owner in the Amazon jungle, who gets word that a ravenous army of ants are planning to attack. Cast: Lou Merrill, Don Diamond, Lou Krugman. Sustaining, CBS. (29 min)
    CRIME CLASSICS (8-31-53) “Your Loving Son, Nero” featuring William Conrad as the Roman Emperor who made plans to kill his mother. With Lou Merrill as host Thomas Hyland, Betty Lou Gerson, Edgar Barrier, Hy Averback, Martha Wentworth, Sammie Hill. Sustaining, CBS. (30 min)
    SUSPENSE (11-9-58) “Two for the Road” starring William Conrad and Charles McGraw as two television actors whose cross-country trip is interrupted when they are accused of robbery and murder. Cast: Paula Winslowe, June Foray, Howard McNear, Evan Thompson, Barney Phillips, Sam Pierce, Jack Kruschen. Participating sponsors, CBS. (28 min)

  363. epebble says:
    @Greta Handel

    That Ms. Rumeysa Ozturk (a citizen of our NATO ally Turkey) was given USSR treatment for writing an op-ed in campus newspaper. The op-ed was simply advocating divestment for excessive and (way out of proportion), wanton violence upon non-combatant Gaza civilians, including purposeful targeting of women and small children which bears no connection to capturing or destroying Hamas.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
  364. Corvinus says:
    @Mike Tre

    “You, Colin Wright, and Buzz feel Palestinians (specifically and more so than other groups) possess fundamental or Constitutional rights to come to the US, occupy a position in school or workforce, and commence to using that position as a staging ground to agitate and advocate for a foreign conflict that is of zero consequence to the average US citizen, even thought it is the US citizen’s taxes that finance these alien provocateurs’ existence here in the US.”

    No, I oppose the automatic assumption that people who come to the U.S. on work visas or student visas are agitators, violent offenders, and tax eaters.

    “To put it another way, you’d care a lot less about the Pally’s if it were the Saudi’s putting them to the screws.”

    Of course they don’t care a whit about the plight of Palestinians. They’re brown people. Similarly, you don’t care about this group or the dirty Jews who are murdering them. Both groups are a prop for your.

    “Further, none of you seem to give a shit about all of the different Christian sects in that region who are and have been under constant persecution, sometimes by the muslim Palestinian majority itself.”

    Why would they, or you, for that matter? The Assyrians, Arab Christians, Armenians, Copts, and Syriac Orthodox are darker hued folks. To you and them, who cares if they are forcibly displaced or persecuted? They’re f— brown peoples.

    “On the other side of this, you have those like me, AEN and JEA, who define this issue as a need for a complete full stop on all immigration”

    OK, I have also held similar sentiments and shared them on this fine opinion webzine.

    “its loopholes: Student visas, work visas, refugees, marriage schemes.. all of it.”

    Policies, not loopholes.

    “I don’t care if they are Pallies, mestizos, Chinese, or even the ridiculously high numbers of **Eastern European immigrants**…”

    And now that is absolutely anti-white for you to say. You crossed the line. Perhaps the one who has the nasty and ignorant disposition is…you?

    “They don’t belong here”

    Says who?

    “No, the US is for Western European whites”

    Again, says who?

    “and preferably, whites who don’t hate themselves and their own kind like you do.”

    And now we get to the crux of the matter, another great example of the No True Scotsman fallacy. The “true white peoples” are the ones that YOU say, aka the racial litmus test. So any white person who does not meet YOUR subjective criteria is other than white. This is absolutely bonkers on your part.

    “The heritage white American population of the US, who has sent its sons to die for jewish globalist causes the last 110 years”

    You mean that white Americans of European ethnicity has sent their sons and daughters to fight against oppression, whether it be in Europe (twice), in Korea, or in Vietnam. Get it right next time.

    “Heritage white US citizens have been subject to jewish hostility far longer”

    How about asking Trump to declare all Jews as being a threat to white people and our national security, and thus the need to purge them? Because that ultimately is what you support.

    Or let us take it one step further–it’s safe to say you would champion Trump ordering the military to round up any and all illegal immigrants and simply shoot them, including women and children. After all, they are “enemies”, right? In your world, all it takes is Trump to simply designate them as such. He has absolute authority and no accountability to the courts, correct?

  365. Corvinus says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You tell the best made up stories ever. Thanks!

  366. @epebble

    “One thing to be said about ICE’s newfound xenophobia – it is completely ‘equal opportunity’ – everybody is mistreated equally so that no one can accuse them of racism or ethnic discrimination.”

    I suspect that’s intentional. To preempt exactly that charge in the inevitable litigation that ensues.

    • Replies: @epebble
  367. @scrivener3

    This idea brought to mind the famous (or infamous) “Mouse Utopia”:

    Mouse Heaven or Mouse Hell?

  368. @Mr. Anon

    This is late, and I have written about this here before, but:

    I met two of those Israeli “art students” in the year 2001, some time before 9/11 but I don’t remember exactly when.

    I was managing a bank at the time, in a wealthy town, across the street from a Jewish “charity.” I was well-acquainted with the directors of that charity; they and their organization had accounts at my bank. One day one of those directors came to me with two young men from Israel. Those brown, Middle-Eastern-looking young men were “art students” recently arrived who needed bank accounts.

    They were introduced to me as art students.

    — Side note: For all you Israel-defenders who think I am anti-Jew, I have news for you. I have long befriended, dated, slept with, and worked with Jews. To paraphrase Donald Trump, “… and some, I suppose, are good people.”

    Okay, so, my town was a commute outside of Manhattan. I lived in that town too, met and married my wife there, and many of our neighbors worked in the city.

    Normally, I would not have opened accounts myself for those young men, in my position, but my Jewish friend from across the street had brought them to me specifically.

    Okay, so, among other things, I am something of a lover of art. I even took the time in college to take a couple of art history classes. So, I tried to talk about art with these Israeli “art students.” Well, it immediately became obvious that neither one of them knew anything about art. They were deadpan, flat affect, and they had no interest in and and no response to anything I said.

    — Another side note: I have met in other situations young, brown men like them from Israel. One I met halfway down inside the Grand Canyon. I had hiked there twice before and experienced a wonderful camaraderie with people from around the world, but this Israeli was a douchebag. We were alone together, taking a break from climbing out. I introduced myself, and I was confronted with a rude, cold, asshole. He told me he was from Israel. Those young men in my office that day looked and acted exactly the same way.

    Okay, so as I was helping those two young, brown, Middle Eastern-looking men — far outside my normal responsibilities — I tried to engage in conversation about art. You know, art. They were art students, right? Well, they had literally nothing to say about art. I mentioned a few things of interest to me that any mediocre student of art would know about, and I got nothing but blank expressions in response.

    Those guys were definitely not art students.

    I have one or two other, more — what shall I say — “shocking”? No. “Controversial? No. “Surprising?” Yes, okay.

    I have one or two more surprising stories from my own experience about 9/11, but I will not share them. I am careful enough not to. Suffice it to say that I lived and worked then in a place where I met and knew people who could pass on to me certain things that did not reach the light of day through our media at the time.

    • Thanks: Mr. Anon, Hail
    • Replies: @Ralph L
    , @Jack D
  369. Corvinus says:
    @res

    “So it looks like source of income and not residency is the key?”

    It’s both. Pay now, get guaranteed path to citizenship later. I thought we Heritage White Americans do not want any more foreigners in our country regardless of their income status, especially if they are Jewish, Indian, Persian, Chinese, or Eastern European.

    After all, I’ve been scolded by Mike Tre, who insists these groups are unassimilable. Seems to me that you think similarly. Is that the case?

    Besides, I thought diversity programs are on the chopping block by the Trump Administration.

    https://www.claconnect.com/en/resources/articles/25/gold-card-us-citizenship

    “The U.S. continues to be a top destination for foreign nationals due to its robust economy and diverse opportunities. Recent trends indicate immigration increases both supply and demand in the economy, contributing significantly to economic growth.**

    In 2024, more immigration to the United States made faster employment growth possible — without excessive inflationary pressure — by lowering labor costs.** Additionally, the United States offers various incentives for foreign nationals, such as the EB-5 Immigrant Investor Program, which provides a pathway to permanent residency for those investing in job creation in the United States. This program has been particularly attractive to investors seeking to secure a future in the United States while contributing to the economy.

    The proposal aims to supplement or replace the existing EB-5 immigrant investor visa program, which required foreign investors to create or preserve 10 permanent full-time jobs for U.S. workers”

    Although, I imagine those newcomers who bribed–I mean paid legitimately–the government will be required to give those full-time jobs to only white American workers of the proper ethnic background. I imagine the brothers, cousins, or female relatives (after all, women ruin everything) of the “wonderful new people”–Jewish, Indian, Persian, Chinese, Eastern European–will be ineligible for such employment. If so, then these gold cards should be dispensed to foreigners like Pez candy.

    **Isn’t this straight up lying? So why is Trump endorsing a policy that allegedly underscores such obvious falsehoods?

  370. J.Ross says:

    Done with Rand Paul. “Skipping democracy”? What the hell does that even mean? Wasn’t there an election? Didn’t Trump say exactly what he would do at every rally, and there were a hundred rallies? Schumer wasn’t this incoherent. Apparently the pedophile oligarch conspiracy uses physical violence because it works.

    • Replies: @HA
  371. @Mark G.

    “There would obviously be other reasons beside the inflationary policies of the Fed leading to American wages rising and making American workers uncompetitive on the world labor market for manufacturing moving overseas ..”

    But by your own account American wages didn’t raise in real terms only in nominal dollars. And it is the real value of American wages that matters in competitive terms.

    Food used to be mostly grown locally because it was expensive to ship. Hence New Jersey was nicknamed “the garden state” because it grew food for New York City and Philadelphia. Now that it is economical to ship in asparagus from Peru not so much. Similar stories can be told about many industries where cheap shipping has made local production uneconomic. This has nothing to do with Federal Reserve policy.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  372. epebble says:
    @Hail

    H1-B problem (along with illegal and legal immigration) will be easily solved by the incoming stagflation. There was little migration during 2008 and 2020. In fact, there was quite a bit of emigration when all those who couldn’t find a job (and ran out of money) went home. As we return back to Ford-Carter era, immigration will heal itself.

  373. muggles says:
    @Colin Wright

    Now then. You know perfectly well the Jews kill whether there is resistance or not.

    You aren’t Buzz Mohawk who I was responding to.

    But now in reply to my argument you claim that committing a war crime by not surrendering when your military has been driven out of a foreign land and retreating into your own territory and hiding in civilian occupied neighborhoods isn’t a “war crime.”

    Your logic? That the IDF would be killing Gazan civilians anyway even if Hamas wasn’t hiding among them in apartments and tunnels?

    Wow.

    So why did the IDF wait until Israelis were killed and kidnapped to move into Gaza and go after Hamas? If they are simple mass murderers, why now and not 20 years ago?

    There are still hundreds of thousands of Gazans (or millions, not sure) living there. If the IDF wanted to “exterminate” Gazans (as criers of “genocide” assert) then the place would be leveled, and everyone would be dead by now.

    Israel certainly has the ammo and military to do that.

    The IDF has gone to a lot of trouble to avoid killing noncombatants. But when Hamas openly brags about hiding in private apartments, tunnels and occupied buildings, it is hard to avoid civilian casualties.

    Your “Jews are merely bloodthirsty demons who kill without distinction” is absurd and contrary to the facts. It doesn’t matter, you insist, because the Hamas war crime hasn’t increased the death toll.

    Your Cloud Cuckoo land argument fails to impress.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  374. @YetAnotherAnon

    The trouble is that ‘branding’ has become, for the most part, an enormous fraud.

    There was a time, perhaps, when buying a brand meant that you paid a bit more for promotion, advertising, and packaging on the assumption that you were paying that bit extra to acquire something that was reliable and consistent in quality.

    But these days brands have often “gone off”. For example publicly traded companies are sold to private equity funds that continue to use (once) respected brand names while diminishing the quality of the product.

    When I think back to my childhood, there were many well-known products advertised on TV in the UK, for example Oxo, Bisto, Weetabix, Ambrosia Creamed Rice, After Eight Mints, Harvey’s Bristol Cream Sherry, Heinz Baked Beans in tomato sauce, etc. The TV commercials were so familiar that everyone knew these names, even if they didn’t consume them. The profits from these products supported the whole of commercial TV.

    As a teenager I was vaguely aware that you could buy generic or supermarket versions of all these products for less money, but I just assumed it was because you were not paying for the expensive TV commercials and billboards. What I didn’t realise at the time, even though my father kept a grocer’s shop and had one of the first self-service minimarkets in the UK, was that the manufacturers were making excess profits beyond the price of production and a fair profit.

    Now when I watch ITV I notice that none of these products are advertised any more. It is the generic brands and vendors that are advertised, for example Sainsbury’s supermarket, Boots the Chemist, or Domino’s Pizza (but there are never any claims that Domino’s make better pizza.)

    At one time everyone knew that Bisto gravy powder was what you needed for your Sunday roast dinner, because “Bisto browns, season , and thickens all in one.”

    Today any fool would know to mix a generic stock cube, some Worcester or soy sauce , maybe some onions or onion powder or tomato puree, some cornflour, and some meat juices to get the same result or better for a fraction of the price of buying a canister of Bisto. That is the internet for you.

    Sometimes brands are actually worth the wait, for example Toyota, or Le Creuset cookware (comes with lifetime guarantee) or Redwing boots (can be resoled) or Snap-on tools, but mostly they are not.

  375. @Buzz Mohawk

    Oh by the way, the Sundance Film Festival is moving to Boulder, beginning in 2027.

    The Utah Secret Police put the kabosh on the eyes wide shut parties.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  376. muggles says:
    @Hail

    A few years ago Texas adopted a “top 10%” GPA for public high school students for admission to their two large flagship state universities (UT and TX A&M).

    This resulted in some gaming the admissions system by parents who could afford to move or have their kid move into a worse high school so their own GPA could instantly rise in the final year.

    I’m not sure what was done about it. I think they made Senior year transfers harder to do or the GPA had to reflect a longer time span of attendance.

    Jock transfers (for football anyway) had long had a two-year requirement with the first year being ineligible for HS football teams.

    The history of admitting unqualified students to harder schools shows that most such admittees fail to graduate at all. In Texas, students in second tier state schools (or even private universities) can often gain flagship school admissions if their first two year’s GPA is high enough by some criteria.

    This makes sense and ends gaming at the high school level. If you demonstrate high achievement in a less difficult enviroment, you probably can handle classes at better schools overall.

  377. HA says:
    @J.Ross

    “Didn’t Trump say exactly what he would do at every rally, and there were a hundred rallies?”

    You mean all that pre-election talk about swiping Greenland and Panama and annexing Canada? Jared told us that ethnically cleansing Gaza in order to generate beachfront real estate was a good idea, but that also didn’t make it into the agenda until after elections.

    And didn’t Trump’s MAGA loons keep insisting all that tariff talk was just a negotiating tactic and that he’s really not warmonger the libs that his detractors are making him out to be? “Of course you can’t take what he says literally; only the lying media do that. Here, what he REALLY meant to say is….”

    Don’t believe me?

    https://twitter.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1907621008283988321

    It eventually became clear that even those who claimed the ability to stare into those verbal tea-leaves of confusion and see some genius strategy couldn’t agree on what Trump supposedly meant to say, but the morass just allowed the credulous idiots the opportunity to see whatever they wanted to see, like the elliptic utterances of some Delphic oracle.

  378. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hail

    Wow. What they did to that young lady was unconscionable. And this was to a citizen of the UK, a NATO ally and a country we usually loudly declaim to be our closest partner in the World. Well, we used to anyway, until another little nation became our bosom pal, according to those who rule over us.

    Mind you, I don’t believe that hooey that the UK is a good friend, nor do I like or trust the British government, but I have nothing against the British people. And an English lass shouldn’t be treated like a hardened criminal because she bent the visa regulations in about the most innocuous way imaginable. Will the Trump administration be treating Israeli “artists” or “movers” in a similar fashion?

    • Replies: @Hail
  379. @emil nikola richard

    LOL. Well, that won’t happen in my old town. They can have all the parties they want. I plan to be there.

  380. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “And it is the real value of American wages that matters”

    No, it is American wages compared to foreign wages that matters. As I said, American wages went from 3.35 per hour in 1970 to 27.50 per hour now due to high inflation. This makes it difficult for American workers to compete with Chinese workers making 5.70 per hour.

    I pointed out to you manufacturing stayed here before we embarked on an inflationary course but left after we did. I asked you for an alternative explanation for that. The best you could come up with was decreased transport costs. That may be part of it but does not sound plausible as the main factor here.

    We need to be aware here there is a strong reason for some people to engage in obfuscation on this. While the inflation harmed working class people, it helped politically connected elites who benefitted from the extra money being created by the government and passed out to them.

    Our 50 year period of greatest economic growth occurred from 1865 to 1915 in a no inflation era with low taxes and low government spending. This period benefitted the average person. Wealthier people live longer than poorer people and average life expectancy increased by fifteen years in this period. By comparison, Angus Deaton has found declining life expectancies over the last 25 years among working class Whites. Their dire condition led to the rise of a populist outsider winning in 2016 who appeared to care about them, unlike the establishment politicians.

  381. @Jonathan Mason

    Don’t know how to embed a video, but this link goes to “Heinz Baked Beans” by The Who”:

    Heinz Baked Beans

    • Replies: @Ralph L
  382. @Hail

    Maybe, just maybe, this and other stories like it will make MAGAtards think twice about what is really going on here.

    Nah.

    If you’ve ever dealt with TSA/security/government mouth-breathing retarded goons, you know that I mean. Ever since I started writing critical comments here (I mean truly critical of the powers that be, not my previously agreeable comments to Steve) I have magically been taken aside for, cough — “RANDOM” — screening at airports.

    Again and again.

    It is not random.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @muggles
  383. Ralph L says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What, or whom, would Mossad be interested in in suburban Connecticut? Stealing gracious living secrets from Martha Stewart?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  384. @Jonathan Mason

    We use Le Creuset cookware. Nothing compares.

    My father was a large-scale manufacturer of industrial products. He told me, when I was coming of age in the 1970s, that companies like his that made premium brands would sell their over-production to generic companies. Those buyers would then rebrand the products and sell them at a discounted price.

    Customers either did or did not know that they were getting the same, high-quality product at a better price. It was a win-win: My father’s company was able to cut its losses, essentially selling off at cost anything it made too much of, while the lesser companies made a profit by re-selling products they themselves didn’t have to manufacture, and customers of those lesser companies were able to buy good products at an affordable price.

    This is the manufacturing-marketing-sales model that enables the initial manufacturer to meet its quotas without worrying about cost overruns. It works. You see, a large-scale manufacturer has to always estimate how much it needs to produce. It never wants to come up short, so it almost always makes too much. This system is how they reduce their losses.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  385. Ralph L says:
    @deep anonymous

    You should be able to just paste in the youtube URL, and the Unz Miracle Software does the rest, no HTML coding required. Too many videos does embiggen the browser tab, however.

  386. Corvinus says:
    @John Johnson

    “Hopefully more Republicans will get a clue and realize that allowing reality TV star to start multiple trade wars isn’t such a good idea.”

    The stock market tanking due to Trump’s tariffs destroyed $6.6 trillion in value in two days. It’s called a market correction. Trump insisted it’s the fault of investors for panicking over the loss of potential profits.

    Moreover, we Americans are a tough, resilient bunch. This financial nightmare is only temporary. Trust Trump. He says just wait until the EU and China capitulates. Then Happy Days are here again.

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  387. Mr. Anon says:
    @Ralph L

    What, or whom, would Mossad be interested in in suburban Connecticut? Stealing gracious living secrets from Martha Stewart?

    Just because they have an account at a suburban Connecticut bank branch, doesn’t mean they have to stay there. All they need is a bank account and a credit card, and then it’s off to Tulsa or Nashville or where ever to start wandering around in the non-public areas of DEA or DoJ offices. That’s what those Israeli “art students” were observed doing.

    Why were they doing this, one might wonder? One theory is that they were fishing around for computer access. This was 2001, bear in mind, pre 9/11. People wrote their passwords down on a slip of paper that they kept under the keyboard. This kind of social engineering was a key tool for hackers to gain access to computer networks. And it makes a lot of sense to attack the system through far-flung offices in the hinterland, rather than in New York or Washington, as the the whole op-sec vibe is probably laxer. After all, who is expecting foreign spies to be snooping around some government office in Topeka or Amarillo.

  388. @Ralph L

    Funny you should mention that, because my wife and I just drove home this morning — from a walk on the beach and some shopping — along Martha’s old street, Turkey Hill Road. We even commented to each other about it.

    (Martha left town and bought a big place in New York State when she got out of prison.)

    It is not suburban Connecticut that Mossad would be interested in. Suburban Connecticut here is a stone’s throw away from Manhattan. There were people here who were killed on 9/11 because they worked in those towers, okay? Bringing in little, brown spy minions through here makes perfect sense, and they did it. (It is a wealthy, heavily Jewish town, BTW, not that this matters or anything…)

  389. @Hail

    At this point it’s clear that there is no upside to using genetic medicine like mRNA tech for vaccines. It’s still highly speculative and the results are not positive. Good evidence that mRNA vaccines have caused a lot of damage, particularly in youth and young adults. Cardiac problems, immune system damage, and high incidents of cancer. Elite interest in the DARPA developed gene therapy mRNA and how it interacts with the human body on a global scale was behind the disastrous decision to put it into the COVID-19 vaccine.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Mark G.
  390. @Mark G.

    And the US keeping the dollar overvalued. Didn’t help. Same with the UK. Everyone likes things being cheap abroad.

    I live not so far from Stratford – the Shakespeare one. Fifty years ago in summer it was full of American families and the only Chinese were in the (one? two?) restaurants. Now as many Chinese as Americans, and the Americans are more student types.

  391. @Corvinus

    This is a challenge to your beloved neoliberal world order. I hope it succeeds. The “financial nightmare” you describe has been ongoing since kleptocrat government ministers took the knee before the masters of the universe — the globalist or neoliberal corporatists that Steve’s favorite author warned us about.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Nicholas Stix
  392. @Joe Stalin

    It’s an interesting premise, but hard to square with plain old reality.

    I know a few people in China, and those people know more people in China, and of all those people I know of, 0.0% died during covid. Even if they skew younger, that still seems highly improbable if half of China’s population is recently deceased.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  393. @muggles

    ‘…So why did the IDF wait until Israelis were killed and kidnapped to move into Gaza and go after Hamas? If they are simple mass murderers, why now and not 20 years ago?’

    They were doing it twenty years ago as well.

  394. @Mark G.

    ‘…Their dire condition led to the rise of a populist outsider winning in 2016 who appeared to care about them, unlike the establishment politicians.

    What is also true is that Trump — both for better and for worse — is very typically American. Wealth aside, he could be your mildly annoying neighbor. We understand him; he’s one of us.

    This explains both why people love him, and why people hate him. People who really, really don’t want to see white American gentile males reclaim this country can’t stand him. Those who do want to see that think he’s the cat’s pajamas.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  395. @Almost Missouri

    …I know a few people in China, and those people know more people in China, and of all those people I know of, 0.0% died during covid. Even if they skew younger, that still seems highly improbable if half of China’s population is recently deceased.

    What I found interesting was the ferocious government crackdown — which continued long after it became clear the Corona Virus was a decidedly limited threat. Remember all those locked high rises and euthanized pets?

    What was up? There must be some satisfying explanation for it.

    • Replies: @Hail
  396. guest007 says:
    @deep anonymous

    That was years ago and before the Varsity Blues scandal.

  397. guest007 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Actually, many Americans recognize Trump was the worst boss they ever had or the biggest jerk that works for one’s company. That people cannot recognize Trump as a narcissistic sociopath is amazing.

  398. @Mark G.

    “No, it is American wages compared to foreign wages that matters. As I said, American wages went from 3.35 per hour in 1970 to 27.50 per hour now due to high inflation. This makes it difficult for American workers to compete with Chinese workers making 5.70 per hour.”

    If the US hadn’t inflated the dollar Chinese workers wouldn’t be making $5.70 and hour, they would be making $2.07 an hour. In your alternative universe where American wages are $10 an hour do you think oil would still cost $65 a barrel? In fact it would cost something like $23.60 a barrel. The same is true for Chinese wages.

  399. @guest007

    I don’t care about his personality. I care about his borrowing money like it grows on trees.

  400. @Corpse Tooth

    At this point it’s clear that there is no upside to using genetic medicine like mRNA tech for vaccines. It’s still highly speculative and the results are not positive.

    That’s incorrect.

    mRNA vaccines can be quickly updated compared to traditional vaccines.

    That is why the mRNA flu vaccine will be more effective and the anti-vaxx crowd will have an even harder time explaining why it shouldn’t be used.

    mRNA flu vaccines means there will be less guesswork.

    Flu mortality rates will drop and the anti-vaxx crowd will lose even more credibility.

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  401. The Supreme Court issued a ruling delivering a terrible blow to the deep state’s efforts to thwart Trump agenda.

    SCOTUS internal politics was on full display in a recent SCOTUS case and it’s important for 2A advocates to take note.

  402. @guest007

    That people cannot recognize Trump as a narcissistic sociopath is amazing.

    Well, maybe…but we like him anyway! At least we know what we’re getting. Kamala Harris? Seriously?

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  403. @Hail

    It sounds like the Canadian border officials were the ones who flagged her, perhaps by mistake; but the U.S. side made a bigger mistake.

    Completely wrong, Hail. You conveniently left out the following, which was the start of the trouble, and were her error(s):

    She wasn’t thinking about the dismal state of US-Canada relations when she handed her passport to the Canadian border official. He asked what she was planning to do in Canada. Travel, she replied. He asked where she was staying. Living with a man and his family, she said. He asked how she knew him. Becky said they had met on Workaway, and that she would be helping out around the house. The official told her they needed to research what Workaway was. He told Becky’s coach driver to leave without her.

    Workaway warns users that they “will need the correct visa for any country that you visit”, and that it is the user’s responsibility to get one, but it doesn’t stipulate what the correct visa is for the kind of arrangements it facilitates in any given country. Becky had always travelled with a tourist visa in the past – including to the US in 2022 – without any problems. She checked that work visas were only required for paid work in Canada. She had had months to plan her trip, and would have applied for a work visa if it was necessary, she says.

    But the Canadian officials told Becky they’d determined she needed a work visa. She could apply for one from the US and come back, they said. Two officers escorted her to the American side of the border (…)

    Her lack of a work visa was also correctly flagged by the US:

    An hour later, Becky was handed a transcript of her interview to sign. She was alone, with no legal advice. “It was really long, loads of pages.” As she flicked through it, she saw the officer had summarised everything she told him about what she had been doing in the US as just “work in exchange for accommodation”. “I remember thinking, I should ask him to edit that.” But the official was impatient and irritable, she says, and she was exhausted and dizzy – she hadn’t eaten all day. “I just thought, if I sign this, I’ll be free. And I didn’t want to stay there any longer.” So she signed.

    Then she was told she had violated her tourist visa by working in the US. They took her fingerprints, seized her phone and bags, cut the laces off her trainers, frisked her, and put her in a cell. “I heard the door lock, and I instantly threw up.”

    Stories like hers should be disseminated widely, and known by all travelers and (would-be) trespassers: Borders are tighter, and you better have proper visas and permits, otherwise uh-oh.

    • Replies: @epebble
  404. Corvinus says:
    @Corpse Tooth

    “This is a challenge to your beloved neoliberal world order.”

    Thanks for the strawman.

    “I hope it succeeds.”

    What succeeds? The financial stripping of the white lower and middle class?

    “ The “financial nightmare” you describe has been ongoing since kleptocrat government ministers took the knee before the masters of the universe — the globalist or neoliberal corporatists that Steve’s favorite author warned us about.”

    You mean like Trump’s tax cuts that benefitted the wealthy during his first term?

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  405. epebble says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I think she won’t be coming to U.S. for a long time. That would also be good advice to all travelers. No sense getting tangled in aggressive ICE. There are lots of nice countries in the world where you won’t get a heartburn (or heart attack) worrying if your papers are all perfect.

  406. J.Ross says:
    @guest007

    Eat the poison, flat out lying doesn’t work, also look up McKinsey at Boeing.

  407. @Greta Handel

    Okay, here are the reported statements:

    Wow, finally! The statements seem reasonable to me. Do you have any objection to what they specifically said, or just an ongoing vague whinge?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  408. @Greta Handel

    I posted something the other day about how the Diffident Right authors of TUR would keep their cameras pocketed if they saw a rendition like this on the street where they live.

    Would one need a photographic keepsake of the event? Probably not. Do you whip out your camera every time you see the police detain someone?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  409. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “But I do remember Dave [Chapelle] back when he was a brilliant teenager, and everybody was looking at him and thinking ‘We have the next Eddie Murphy here, we just have to figure out how to play this’ and somehow nobody could — i first met the guy in the waiting room outside Lorne’s office — which gives you an idea.”

    Was that supposed to be a compliment or an insult?

    I was out of the country when I first saw Eddie Murphy in 48 Hours, in which Nick Nolte carried him. It was at a German-American Institute (weekly “original version”). The room was full of largely stupid, rich, American kids from places like Tufts who laughed before Murphy even said his lines.

    Many years later, I saw Murphy’s most famous SNL routines (the only one I recall was his Mr. Rogers’ routine), on “Best of” specials, but was underwhelmed.

    Apparently, Murphy’s creative peak was when he was 12. I saw him once on The Tonight Show. He talked about prepping for his comedy act, and writing a list of jokes he was to tell, and wrote at the top of the page, “Don’t forget bugger jokes!”

    (I raised a boy who was once 12, and recall the power of booger jokes over little boys.)

    The other thing from him that I liked, was when he re-made Jerry Lewis’ The Nutty Professor, and did one scene, which I’ve seen many times, in which he played a family of eight, and played every single family member around the table. That’s the only scene I saw from that movie.

    I saw a few comedy specials and shows of Dave Chappelle’s (on HBO) 20 or so years ago that were intermittently funny. The “intermittent” part was because he would alternate funny sketches with ones in which, for instance, the cops would murder innocent black men, and sprinkle some crack around. black supremacist men in the audience would stand and give Chappelle loyalty applause, saying, “That’s the truth, brother!”

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  410. Hail says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    Will the Trump administration be treating Israeli “artists” or “movers” in a similar fashion?

    The difference with these Trump-II people? There’s probably no need for cover-identities for Israel’s spies and sundry influence-agents. They’re likely to be given free reign.

    We have indications they are something-very-nearly directing the Trump-II national-security team. Not just influencing it. (See the Waltz/Hegseth SignalGate fiasco; Israel ordering the USA declare war on Yemen/Houthis, out of nowhere, with mafia-hits against civilian targets; Israel giving the targets, egging on the illegal, undeclared war.)

  411. Hail says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    [PRC-China’s] ferocious government crackdown [2020-2022] […] What was up? There must be some satisfying explanation for it.

    One theory is that China’s Lockdowns were, or at some point became, a gambit to try to get idiot Westerners to “fall for” the Panic and lock-down as well.

    According to this theory, the PRC assessed that Lockdownism and a dark-cloud of Corona-Panic “would” hurt the West more than it “could” hurt China. A giant “influence operation,” meant to get us to hurt ourselves.

    In geostrategic terms, the USA and others of the White-West “falling for” Lockdownism, and net-hurting themselves more than authoritarian China was hurt, would mean China could “steal a march” on us. It would mean China could grab a few extra net years, in the early 2020s, in the larger “China overtakes the West” narrative. Word is, President Xi and his circle are highly interested in this, and the late-2020s is to be the time of fate, the Taiwan Grab attempt (2027).

    The limitations of that China-gambit theory, to explain the West’s Corona-Panic of 2020, are evident enough. A lot of our own elites found it convenient for their own purposes. The China-gambit theory need not exist totally on its own. At early stages, it succeeded in “coopting” some Western elites but then grew beyond it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  412. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    I, too, have added to the zillions of tariff-related pixels. But with material which is more valuable than the average barstool-idiot, social-media talker saying what floats to mind or repeating some talking-point from somewhere:

    I’ve reposted an analysis of the 1930 Smoot-Hawley Tariff, by economic-historian and Alfred Eckes (chairman of the U.S. International Trade Commission, 1981-1990), published in 1995 in an excellent book. Scholarly but accessible. Useful. Timely.

    Eckes examined and rejected the idea that Smoot-Hawley either “caused” or even “exacerbated” the Great Depression. Smoot-Hawley is an important part of U.S. civic-mythology. It gets brought up, constantly, by opponents of the tariffs (which is seemingly almost all of our political spectrum).

    Anyway, here it is, if anyone reading this is interested in a 15,000-word study of Smoot-Hawley and the many myths surrounding it:

    Alfred Eckes on the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930 and its long-lasting civic mythology,” April 4, 2025, Hail To You.

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2025/04/04/alfred-eckes-study-on-the-smoot-hawley-tariff-of-1930-and-its-long-lasting-civic-mythology/

    • Thanks: emil nikola richard
  413. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You’re not just forgetting how this all came up, are you? To save some time this round, I’ll go ahead and quote our statements right now.

    Greta Handel (#74): People are openly rooting for Marco Rubio and goons grabbing a woman off the street for writing an antiwar op-ed in the context of university governance.

    Jenner Ickham Errican (#178): Is that why Rubio (or whoever ordered the arrest) says she got snatched? Seems unlikely.

    Greta Handel (#74): “Seems unlikely”? If you wanted to know what happened to this woman and why, it’s been addressed repeatedly here at TUR, including by Giraldi and Unz.

    So again, now that you have the statements of the “arresting authorities” and other facts, try to justify what was done to her as something other than throttling for intimidation.

  414. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Nah, it’s your turn.

    Would you, though, LARP as grip for the ICE film crew?

    Don’t be afraid — show us the courage of your convictions!

  415. Mark G. says:
    @Corpse Tooth

    “At this point it’s clear that there is no upside to using genetic medicine like RNA tech for vaccines.”

    China used vaccines that did not involve RNA tech during the Covid epidemic. They ended up with lower death rates than the United States.

    If we had used the same vaccines China did we might have ended up with the same or fewer deaths than we did. We still probably would have had high death rates, though. There were many elderly Americans who had followed bad diets which had led to obesity, vitamin D deficiency and various health conditions. I did not fall in this category but unfortunately had a serious accident and got Covid while I was trying to recover from my accident.

    RFK Jr. is on the right track when he says we should focus more on adopting healthy diets and exercising more.

    • Replies: @Hail
  416. @Achmed E. Newman

    Hey, Achmed! I just tried twice to post to your blog, but it didn’t show up either time.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  417. @Greta Handel

    try to justify what was done to her as something other than throttling for intimidation

    Hmm. Are you saying that’s a bad thing? Effective law enforcement presumably has a deterrance feature.

  418. @Greta Handel

    Oops, make that third blockquote

    • Greta Handel (#74) (#186)

  419. Old Prude says:
    @Joe Stalin

    J.S., I have recommended you provide an executive summary of the videos you post.

    “There is no TIME, sir!”

    Do these videos support my hypotheses that the AK was a German design simplified so drunk Russians could make and maintain it, or do they repeat the commie lie?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  420. Old Prude says:
    @HA

    Rhinos around the world love Pfizer.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  421. Here is an iSteve-y theme making it to the more-polite part of the dissident Right:

    Can We Fix Our Demographic Doom Loop?

    Basically talks about “The World’s Most Important Graph” and contrasts it with the fertility collapse in all advanced countries, which the author links to feminism. (Forgive me for some oversimplification; the article itself is not that long, I suggest reading it and not just my summary.)

    • Thanks: Hail, AnotherDad, kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Mark G.
  422. Hail says: • Website
    @Nicholas Stix

    You have to post capital-P, capital-S in the comment-box before anything else, to ensure it appears.

    Example:

    Correct way (will appear):

    PS

    Hello, friends, and thanks for all the Stupidity.

    .
    Incorrect way (will disappear):

    Hello, friends, and thanks for all the Stupidity.

  423. Hail says: • Website
    @deep anonymous

    The article is originally from here:

    https://amgreatness.com/2025/04/02/can-we-fix-our-demographic-doom-loop/

    Most of it is boilerplate-rehash of the type of fertility-decline commentary seen over the past twenty-five years.

    Can We Fix Our Demographic Doom Loop?

    Falling birth rates in rich nations threaten collapse, while poorer regions boom—forcing tough questions on economics, culture, and why modern women choose not to have children.

    by Edward Ring
    April 2, 2025
    American Greatness

    […] Why don’t women in developed nations want to have babies anymore?

    [MORE]

    There is a pundit on X who goes by the name “hoe_math” and bills himself as “history’s manliest and most hilarious sex genius.” He recently released a brief video post on his X account that squeezes several inflammatory explanations for low female fertility into 2 minutes and 14 seconds.

    Oh, boy.

    In a previous paragraph, Edward Ring said social media might be a problem. Now here he is getting into the heart of his argument by citing a social-media troll. The problem with hotshot social-media commentators is that the nature of the craft demands they maximize attention, if need be at the expense of facts.

    This seem to the most-important single line of Edward Ring’s essay there:

    [W]ithout equality laws, it’s very easy for women to find men they respect, and with equality laws, it’s very difficult.

    • Replies: @Hail
  424. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    On the the clash of the cognitively-female vs. cognitively-male minds and life-strategies, in the late-modern and post-modern worlds, I find useful the work of Curt Doolittle and the Natural Law Institute.

    We’ve had a serious “over-shoot” towards systematic, institutional empowerment of cognitively-female thinking. It’s not the sole root of every problem but it overlaps, at least, with most problems. In some decades’ time this may be the obvious-consensus view. It already is obvious to many of us (except the contrarians and the Corvinuses).

    Here are some compilations of political-philosopher Curt Doolittle’s commentaries on the topic “Women” that may be of interest:

    [MORE]

    The Natural Law Institute publishes a book this year, which outlines their proposed constitutional reforms to steady the Western ship-of-state. The book, being in written-word form, is more rigorous than these light, spoken commentaries. For the “Youtube”-style format, though, the compiled video-chats from Curt Doolittle are often excellent.

    https://naturallawinstitute.com/

    • Thanks: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  425. Hail says: • Website
    @Ed

    Thanks for the excellent comment, Ed.

    who gets into selective colleges might turn out to be completely irrelevant

    in ten years I can see major corporations and firms drop the college degree fig leaf and just higher directly from connected families and castes

    This seems hard to believe for me at the elite level. It may be true for sub-elite levels.

    The elite universities (and to some extent I am unsure of, elite high-schools; anti-White-discrimination system or not) are incubators for the elite. They’d have to be replaced with something. What would that be? The USA is far off from a true, explicit caste system that simply declares itself to be, passes on titles and caste-status, and coasts along.

    This is a different question from whether a college degree is a good “investment” or not for the median “buyer.”

  426. Moshe Def says:

    New Comments finally showed up in blue, again
    But, only the ones that had been throttled like Steve on Steroids

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  427. Mike Tre says:
    @Europe Europa

    If the usual suspects are producing that stuff too, then I’m not surprised.

  428. Mark G. says:
    @deep anonymous

    A higher percentage of jobs now are government office jobs or jobs in the education sector rather than in manufacturing, agriculture, construction, or mining than in the past. Having been through the public school system and then going to work in one of those government office jobs, I have observed these types of jobs are just more suitable for women. Females often find these jobs to be quite appealing. When you add in affirmative action that enables women to get promoted over men in these jobs, there is a strong incentive for them to pick the career path rather than the housewife and babies path.

    A problem is that this is not sustainable in the long run. You have the low birthrates and declining percentage of more productive Whites as less productive non-White immigrants cross the border. This leads to declining tax revenues. Since those education and government office jobs filled with females rely directly or indirectly on that tax revenue, the loss of that tax revenue will lead to the shrinking of those job sectors.

  429. Moshe Def says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you, President Trump
    Thank you, future President Vance

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  430. @Old Prude

    Do these videos support my hypotheses that the AK was a German design simplified so drunk Russians could make and maintain it, or do they repeat the commie lie?

    Forgotten Weapons examines your hypothesis by talking to an actual Russkie who’s done a deep dive on the history of the AK-47.

  431. Mike Tre says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “If you’ve ever dealt with TSA/security/government mouth-breathing retarded goons,”

    Yes. The TSA goes back almost 25 years now, and I can remember them pulling little old white ladies out of line for “additional screening” while drunken negroes and covered muslims were allowed to pass right on through those screening checkpoints. Because racial profiling or something.

    So I’m not really ready to believe that it’s the Trump administration that has introduced this brand new concept of over targeting whites in their own lands over obvious foreign travelers. (And before you accuse me of being a pro MAGA-tard or whatever, I challenge you to find a single comment of mine where I proclaim any great love or admiration for him. He talked a good game during his inauguration, but other than that, he hasn’t done much of anything to make working class whites’ lives better. )

    What’s really been going on, is that the US immigration policy has been to facilitate the entry of non Western people by just about any means available for a long long time.

    It appears the matter of Rebecca Burke (while yet another travesty of alphabet agency malevolence and incompetence) somewhat contradicts that idea that only pro-Palestinian brown people are subject to this treatment.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  432. Curle says:
    @Mike Conrad

    Would also appreciate opinions on whether what the Trump Administration is doing with regard to students who dare to criticize zionist genocide: does this outweigh whatever good DJT has done?

    Trump is reminding Arab foreigners that their presence here is conditional. This is a good thing. Now, let’s hope he does the same to any attempting to topple confederate statues or attempting to vote.

  433. Mike Tre says:

    Good news, Trump haters! A judge has ruled that deported MS-13 gang members must be returned to the US!

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/obama-appointed-judge-orders-trump-administration-tto-return-alleged-ms-13-gang-member

    This is how we fight the Zionists! We return homicidal brown people to the US!

    • Replies: @Curle
  434. Corvinus says:
    @Hail

    “In some decades’ time this may be the obvious-consensus view.”

    Key word is “may”. But the views by Doolittle are antiquated. How do you propose to propagandize them when you and him are dead? Who is the budding young philosopher that will be given the mantle to virtue signal, I mean convince, white men and women of their proper place in society?

    But, more importantly, how do you even begin to put any of this philosophy into practice by way of legislation? This is exactly why these sort of discussions do not gain traction with the general public. What politician is advocating the ideas espoused by Doolittle? Is he showing those videos you posted on his town hall meetings or displaying them on social media?

    “It already is obvious to many of us (except the contrarians and the Corvinuses).”

    You mean it’s obvious to your small circle. Do you honestly think that, for example, normie men will be drawn to Propertarianism like moths to a flame? How do you propose to make this happen?

    James Bowery used to comment here. He advocated for sortocracy. Is his view compatible with Propertarianism? Or are there fundamental differences? What say you?

  435. Curle says:
    @Mike Tre

    This is one of those events where Trump can, in the manner of Andrew Jackson, propose to the judge that she send her army to El Salvador to retrieve the deportee.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @Corvinus
  436. Corvinus says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    “I don’t understand. Why would Trump, a citizen, buy a visa?”

    Simple. It was the first one produced. At some point in time, he can sell it to someone for double or triple the cost. Think of it as a rare sportsball card. Someone wealthy will purchase it from his estate and show his snobbish wealthy buddies that he has something unique.

  437. Mike Tre says:
    @Curle

    Exactly, thanks. It does somewhat amaze me that Presidents don’t simply ignore the rulings of these activist judges more often.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  438. @John Johnson

    He and writers like Gould knew full well as to what they were doing which is to undermine Christian creationism while keeping the race taboo.

    It’s the liberal establishment underpants gnome theory on race:

    Huh? Like Buzz I haven’t read the thing in something nearing 50 years, but this strikes me as just wrong.

    “The Naked Ape” and its follow on “The Human Zoo” are pretty obviously on the “sociobiology” side–explain human behavior in terms of evolutionary adaptation–i.e. biology. (I remember the books as mostly focusing on sex, but then I read them when I was a teenager.) Those books considered humanity as a whole and take the evolutionary adaptive environment as hunter-gatherer. So they aren’t wading into race–considering the fast evolution that has occurred since the neolithic revolution, and how it has been divergent.

    But still those books are clearly in the “sociobiology” camp–biological explanations for human behavior–which puts them at odds with all these Jewish anti-biology “scientists” like Gould, who have just-so evolution that slams to a stop with the creation of big-brained modern humans and everything else we see is “cultural”–just a long history of the jack-booted white goyim oppressing Jews, blacks, women, minorities.

    ~~

    Note, I have no idea what Morris actually thinks about race, or divergent evolution of the “Ten Thousand Year Explosion”. The now-triumphant Jewish narrative has dominated, and lots of people do not have the mental capability to do much more than submit. I’m just talking about the books and they are clearly sociobiology and probably roundly condemned by the cultural-uber-alles good-thinkers, certainly those of feminist stripe. (“How dare you suggest that sex roles have a biological basis, that women are not designed to be you-go-grrl leaders. That’s just the patriarchy …. …. …. …. …. “)

    Nor am giving a “must read” call today. I think Morris’ speculations are probably sort of first-order correct on sexuality. But there has been a whole lot of evolutionary work in the last half cen tury including all the modern DNA stuff, so we know a whole lot more and there is a lot more material out there now with more detailed evidence behind it.

  439. @Colin Wright

    This explains both why people love him, and why people hate him.

    There are also a lot of people who don’t love Trump, but hate those that hate him. The TDS suffering crowd consists of some of the most awful people in the world. People like the cartoonishly vile Hillary Clinton, and the people that like her. Bad things happening to those people – to include their mental illness – makes me happy.

  440. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    Christian Goyim is kind of redundant. If you are a Christian you are a goy by definition.

    The Jews don’t rule over the goyim in the West except in your anti-Semitic imagination. You’re just sore that Jews get to participate in the political system on equal terms with everyone and don’t have to wear yellow stars like the good old days.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  441. Corvinus says:
    @epebble

    “So, Trump is trying to do the best he can by inducing a stagflation that will reduce the trade deficits”

    Hence the correct term—self-harm.

    “If the long bond can somehow be pushed down to 2.5%, the debt spiral may come back to controllable mode”

    A HUGE if.

  442. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Israelis are called “sabras”. A sabra is the prickly pear cactus fruit. It is prickly on the outside and sweet on the inside. But an Israeli is not going to expose his soft heart to someone he just met.

    I have met Israelis with that kind of flat affect. It is a cultural thing, part of playing your cards close to the vest. Israel is in a tough part of the world. Israelis can’t afford to go around smiling like blithering idiots and assuming the best of strangers. You can get killed that way. Israel was also founded by doctrinaire socialists/Communists who wanted to get rid of European bourgeois manners.

    In Israeli culture, there is a horror of being made the “freier”. A freier is a sucker, a fool, someone who is the victim of a scam. If in any situation you don’t know who the freier is, that means that YOU’RE the freier, which is not good. This admittedly makes things tough for example when driving no one will ever let you into their lane.

    All of these are not admirable cultural traits. I like Americans open hearted nature better which is why I live here. But they help to explain that the “art students” that you met were probably not Mossad agents either. In fact if they HAD been Mossad agents they would have been a lot friendlier and would have chatted you up more about art.

    So who were the “art students”? Young Israelis are required to do 2.5 years of military service starting at age 17. When they get out, it’s customary for them to travel the world for a while including seeing the USA. You also see them in India, Thailand, every tourist destination. It’s a sort of Israeli rite of passage. For many, they have to figure out a way to self-finance these trips. They don’t have work visas so they often participate in semi-legal business schemes run by other Israelis. They are not going to stand in the subway and sell fruit cups like Guatemalans.

    But they used to do things like selling magazine subscriptions or “art” (crappy massed produced paintings) door to door. The idea that they were “art students” was just part of the kayfabe. You might be more sympathetic to and trusting of someone who introduces himself as an “art student”. The art sellers knew zero about art any more than people who used to sell encyclopedias door to door were experts on knowledge or people who sold vacuum cleaners were experts on physics. ” Hey, I tried to engage them on Bernoulli’s Principle and all I got was blank stares. ”

    Anyway, my point is that you didn’t know squat about Israelis or what those young people were doing there but you jumped right to the conclusion that they were spies.

  443. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    “This is one of those events where Trump can, in the manner of Andrew Jackson”

    Which back then and even now is patently offensive to the rule of law.

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
    , @Curle
  444. @James of Africa

    if you could maybe provide an alternative link to media that would prove the voracity of your rape allegation.

    Excellent typo, bro!

  445. @Nicholas Stix

    ‘Live what down?’

    The worst crimes committed by a First-World nation since the Germans under Hitler.

    Israel is Jews given their head. If that’s what Jews are, so much the worse for them.

  446. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer is skeptical of a claim that pro-H1B oligarch Elon Musk‘s IQ is 110 (biographer’s claim); Sailer gives more credence to a 130 Musk IQ, based on SAT score:

    What Is Elon Musk’s I.Q.?

    Who seems more trustworthy: Steven Pinker or Amanda Hess?

    by Steve Sailer
    April 06, 2025

    _______________

    From the New York Times:

    What Is Elon Musk’s I.Q.?

    It’s of course an interesting question because Musk’s business accomplishments as an industrialist are so astonishing (running two radically different hardware companies in electric vehicles and rockets, plus SpaceX’s subsidiary Starlink, which is doing very well). I can recall driving around Beverly Hills in 2013 and seeing three Teslas. “Wow,” I said to myself, “Teslas are becoming as common in Beverly Hills as Lamborghinis. That’s amazing. I never thought they’d outsell McClarens. At this rate, someday Teslas might become as common as Ferraris!”

    On the other hand, Musk’s not infallible as a tweeter and sometimes falls for obviously wrong ideas.

    The questionable measure of intelligence has now been uncoupled from any test and loosed into the discourse to justify Silicon Valley’s power.

    By Amanda Hess

    Amanda Hess is a critic at large for the Culture section of The Times, covering the intersection of internet and pop culture.

    April 5, 2025

    Harvard cognitive science superstar Steven Pinker is not impressed with Ms. Hess’s essay:


    It’s the usual Amanda Hess kind of thing:

    For months, an internet-wide guessing game has swirled around the question of where Elon Musk’s intelligence falls on the bell curve. President Trump has called Musk a “seriously high I.Q. individual.” Musk’s onetime biographer Seth Abramson wrote on X that he would “peg his I.Q. as between 100 and 110,” and claimed that there was “zero evidence in his biography for anything higher.” The economics commentator Noah Smith estimated Musk’s I.Q. at more than 130, a number gleaned from his reported SAT score.

    I’ll tell you Musk’s SAT score below the paywall.

    A circulating screenshot shows Fox News has pegged the number at 155, citing Sociosite, a junk website. The pollster Nate Silver guessed that Musk is “probably even a ‘genius,’” and theorized that he may not always appear that way because, as he put it on X, “high I.Q.s serve as a force multiplier for both positive and negative traits.”

    When we speculate about Musk’s I.Q., what are we really talking about?

    Not his score on an intelligence test; if he has ever taken such a test, its results have not been made public.

    Musk’s results are public on the pre-1995 SAT, which was one of the best cognitive tests ever.

    Lots of Ivy League grads want to tell you that they got into the Ivy League but not tell you that they got in on what is basically an IQ test.

    … For more than a century, psychologists have debated the extent to which an I.Q. test is capable of measuring a person’s inherent intellect (and if such a thing even exists).

    Actually, the scientific debate was over a long time ago, as Steven Pinker pointed out a decade ago:

    Now, “I.Q.” has been uncoupled from the test itself and loosed in the discourse to lend a scientific sheen to the consolidation of a new political elite.

    Eh, the terms I.Q. and IQ have been used fairly steadily in American books for much of the last century according to Google’s Ngram:

    [Paywall here. Lots below it.]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/what-is-elon-musks-iq

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Almost Missouri
  447. Hail says: • Website
    @Mark G.

    RFK Jr. is on the right track when he says we should focus more on adopting healthy diets and exercising more.

    I’ve heard him talk about various methods to make food healthier, but what is the plan to get people to exercise more?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Mark G.
    , @res
  448. @Hail

    ‘One theory is that China’s Lockdowns were, or at some point became, a gambit to try to get idiot Westerners to “fall for” the Panic and lock-down as well.’

    I’m more inclined to think the Chinese government felt the need to demonstrate it was in control somehow — of the virus, as well as the people.

    Maybe it just couldn’t tolerate the notion of millions obviously having the flu and the all-powerful party saying ‘sucks, man…but we can’t think of anything to do.’

    There’s also the thought that while the virus as it turned out was fairly innocuous, the Chinese may have been aware that it could evolve into a more deadly variant. Maybe they really were desperate to stamp it out.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Wielgus
  449. @Hail

    The way things have been going for a while, everybody will end up exercising more.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
  450. res says:
    @Ed

    I have just seen a study claiming that going to “college” in the United States now reduces the lifetime earnings, on a net basis, unless the major is in STEM, some sort of business type major, or property management.

    I would really like to see that study. I have seen studies showing the ROI for college has been decreasing, but not what you describe.

    Well, this looks close to what you describe.
    https://freopp.org/whitepapers/does-college-pay-off-a-comprehensive-return-on-investment-analysis/

    But if you scroll down to the “Engineering, Computer Science Are Best Financial Bets” graphic we see that only Fine Arts shows a negative ROI for a bachelor’s degree. Even Education is slightly positive.

    The graphic below that “Not Every Major Has The Same Payoff” is a variant by major which is interesting.

    I really like that analysis. They look at both school and major. And even include a comparison with trade schools and two year degrees. It is notable how well some nursing programs do for ROI.

    Looking at graduate degrees it is notable how poorly master’s degrees tend to do.

    Links for digging into their data.
    https://freopp.org/roi-undergraduate/
    https://freopp.org/roi-graduate/

    • Thanks: Hail, Almost Missouri
  451. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Sailer:

    [This Elon Musk IQ essay] is the usual Amanda Hess kind of thing

    Hess:

    For more than a century, psychologists have debated the extent to which an I.Q. test is capable of measuring a person’s inherent intellect (and if such a thing even exists). Now, “I.Q.” has been uncoupled from the test itself and loosed in the discourse to lend a scientific sheen to the consolidation of a new political elite.

    AMANDA HESS
    – born ca.1985, Arizona;
    – May 2007: BA, English and Creative Writing, George Washington University;
    – mid-2007 to early-2014: a long series of writing positions in lesser media;
    – Feb. 2014: Hired by Slate, New York;
    – March 2016: Hired by the New York Times, and remains there as of 2025;
    – “Amanda Stromwall Hess and Marc Aaron Tracy (BA, Columbia; New York Times) were married on Nov. 2, 2019, at Brooklyn Historical Society in Brooklyn, New York. Officiated by Rabbi Matt Green.”
    – one son, born in late 2020, who is being raised Jewish. Amanda Hess writes on her Instagram of how her son loves “celebrat[ing] Halloween, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah.”

    __________

    Count me as unsurprised that this (kind of) woman prattles on, in Current Year 2025, about IQ as a racist-and-baseless conspiracy against common sense, a pseudoscience, a hoax peddled by villains like Steve Sailer, whose aim is to line the pockets of fat-cats.

  452. @Buzz Mohawk

    We use Le Creuset cookware. Nothing compares.

    Staub is as good if not better. In commercial/restaurant kitchens I see Staub much more often than Le Creuset, fwiw.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  453. @William Badwhite

    ‘There are also a lot of people who don’t love Trump, but hate those that hate him…’

    Indeed. That probably describes me. I don’t think I actually like Trump at all — but I loathe his opponents. Anybody who pisses them off can’t be all bad.

  454. @Jack D

    Anyway, my point is that you didn’t know squat about Israelis or what those young people were doing there but you jumped right to the conclusion that they were spies.

    Jack, I did not “jump right to the conclusion that they were spies.” I treated them with respect — and I did a big favor for their sponsor from across the street.

    Furthermore, I don’t think or assume that, for example, the douchebag I met in the Grand Canyon was a spy. So, I’m sure he was just exhibiting the ethnocentric, asshole behavior you are excusing here.

    I have only read about phony, Israeli “art students” in the years since, and they fit the profile.

    So, Jack, were all of the young Israelis we’ve heard about over the years since “9/11” just your innocent “sabras” here in my homeland, living out their “Israeli rite of passage”?

    Your explanation gives perfect cover to practically anybody doing anything. I don’t claim to know one way or the other, but I am an American man who encountered and observed something, and you are making excuses for what I saw.

    BTW, isn’t “Sabra” the name of a mass-produced hummis? Yes it is, and we buy it and very much enjoy it, thank you very much. “I love Israelis.”

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Jack D
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  455. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    On this forum, I’d go with Whamming.

  456. HA says:
    @Anon

    “The silver lining of Trump being economically clueless and crashing the stock market…”

    Dude, read the room. You’re not supposed to notice things like tanking stock markets around here. You might as well opine on the merits of adding Jeffrey Goldberg to a “private” Signal chat. That’s some thin ice you’re treading on. You’re better off just sticking with World War Hair and fat chicks — and hey, how ’bout them Jews?

  457. @Mike Tre

    The ctrl-left most certainly does, Mike. Even on a less important matter than the deportations of alien criminals, which would be the student loan program and moral-hazardous loan forgiveness, President Brandon himself blatantly ignored a Supreme Court decision on the matter. That decision was not just some old precedent either – it was decided recently before specifically due to complaints about the President doing this on his own.

    The other end of it is that Conservative judges can’t get themselves to go above and beyond the rule-of-law and do these things as the leftist judges do. They tend to not be activist when it’s completely unwarranted. In these cases, I can’t really blame them. Conservatives don’t go “above and beyond” to make trouble, well outside their job descriptions.

    What Curle said is a different story. Yes, it’s easy enough to ignore these judges. That’s the way forward.

    Not only that, but Trump is a different kind of guy than the Conservative judges I mentioned. He does go out of his way to make trouble – mostly a good thing from what I’ve seen – and he really enjoys it too!

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  458. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Attaboy!

    Next time around, just own up.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  459. res says:
    @guest007

    That people cannot recognize Trump as a narcissistic sociopath is amazing.

    What percentage of politicians are? Do you think Biden was not?

    This blog post and associated book seem relevant.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/201905/4-reasons-why-we-elect-narcissists-and-sociopaths

    Book reviews indicate it is rather anti-R biased though.

    Not just politicians.
    https://donovanwashere.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-narcissists-sociopaths

    Interesting point in this thread.

    Which presidents were sociopathic?
    by inPresidents

    Regarding Donald Trump, he may be a narcissist, but I don’t think he meets the medical criteria for sociopathy.

    A key trait of sociopaths is a high excitement threshold (meaning it takes a lot of effort to feel a tiny amount of pleasure). Their emotions are generally muted, and are mostly faked to the public.

    Trump has a low excitement threshold. He’s quite easy to arouse.

  460. @Colin Wright

    For you, Mr. Missouri, and Mr. Hail: Regarding this issue, you all might remember that I have contacts in China and here who KNOW China. (I’ve last been there in the Summer of ’23 – probably no reason to go again.)

    Here’s the story of the Chinese re-Panic of ’22, very specifically from late Winter of that year to November. I’ve been linking to my site a lot, so to avoid claims that all I do is pimp my blog here, you could go to the “China” or “Kung Flu Stupidity” keys there and see dozens of posts on the Chinese insanity of ’22. I’ll save myself the trouble.

    I’m talking initially the swabbing of chickens, kitty cats, fish, and trucks, then the more serious locking down of apartment buildings/complexes with people begging for food supplies at some points. The “Big Whites” (term based on their hazmat suits) would bust down apartment doors to get at people who didn’t want to be tested, were found by telephone-contact-tracing to have been “exposed” and didn’t want to get quarantined, and finally, people being sent out of their cities to be quarantined.

    It was pure madness, especially in Shanghai – the first to be fucked with by Chairman Xi and the CCP. Why? It turns out that a previous Chairman (President before Mr. Hu*) Jiang Zemin was still in Shanghai with a whole lot of financial power that was threatening to Mr.Xi. So, Shanghai was picked on first. Things spread – not the disease I mean, but the Orwellian Totalitarian program.

    To me, this was an exercise in Totalitarianism by the CCP over the Chinese people to test out all the new software, hardware, and AI technology.

    The end of all this in November ’22 was spurred on by 2 incidents, a fire in a locked-up building for quarantining out in Xinjiang (I think) that killed a dozen people or so, and then the crash of a bus that was taking people out of the city of Guiyang (Guizhou province) to a quarantine center against their will. Many died there too. (Yeah, bad bus crashes probably happen weekly or monthly in a country that big, but the anger was about those people not having wanted to take any bus.)

    Things blew up then, and masked protesters (for avoidance not of germs but CCP reprisal) got into it with the government. Mr. Derbyshire noted a good point, that since Chinese people watch soccer (“Communist Kickball”, but of course!) and the world cup was on TV with crowds of 50-100 thousand people together with no masks, that the whole thing was a farce was right in their faces. That was too much.

    PS: For those who extoll China – I’m imaging YOU, in particular, Ron Unz – we all saw lots of Totalitarian madness here in those 2 years, but nothing to the extent of China in ’22. (OK, maybe NYC and California for a few months.) We have our guns here. Had some of the stuff that I saw in China, happened here, officials most assuredly would have been gunned down. We’re shooting the .22s for now, just due to 7 cents a round, but that’s just target practice.

    .

    * No he’s not on first base! That’s Chairman Ai ‘Dien Oh.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  461. Mark G. says:
    @Hail

    “What is the plan to get people to exercise more?”

    According to Google AI some of the actions in the RFK plan are: “Promote a workout challenge for voters highlighting the importance of physical activity. Reintroduce fitness into schools and encourage parents to promote physical activity in their children. Emphasize the importance of developing healthy habits and fostering a culture of physical fitness. Share stories of his family’s commitment to physical fitness.”

    Concerning that last, this was a long time ago but I have a vague memory of my elementary school adopting a physical fitness program promoted by his uncle JFK. Back then Americans were already very sedentary, driving everywhere instead of walking and watching lots of television.

    This is just my personal opinion but, based on my observations over the last sixty years, increases in obesity levels have come more from dietary changes than changes in physical activity. We ate a diet higher in fat back then and that provided more of a feeling of satiety than a high carb diet. We ate family meals at set times rather than snacking all day. Portion sizes in restaurants seemed smaller back then. One other factor: all that cigarette smoking back then, while unhealthy, acted as an appetite suppressant.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jonathan Mason
  462. res says:
    @Hail

    I’ve heard him talk about various methods to make food healthier, but what is the plan to get people to exercise more?

    This is vague.
    https://www.medicaleconomics.com/view/rfk-jr-s-make-america-healthy-again-movement-explained

    Emphasis on preventive care

    Kennedy has long advocated for shifting the focus of health care from disease management to disease prevention. The MAHA plan promotes community-based initiatives to encourage healthy eating, regular exercise and routine screenings, aiming to reduce chronic illnesses such as diabetes and heart disease.

    I am not seeing much more concrete. Anyone?

    AI Summary gave these.

    Examples of Community-Based Initiatives:

    – Detroit’s Walk Your Heart to Health: A program promoting walking for health.
    – Huntsville’s We Walk Huntsville: A program encouraging walking in Huntsville.
    – Oregon Walks: A program promoting walking in Oregon.
    – Community Healthy Activities Model Program For Seniors: A program for seniors to engage in physical activity.
    – StrongPeople Strong Bodies: A community-based strength-training program for older adults.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  463. @Nicholas Stix

    I was off this conversation for a while, Nick. Mr. Hail explained nicely for you, or I would have here. This deal is something extremely easy I implemented to cut out a SPAM deluge that was starting to overwhelm the site.

    I’m very sorry that you lost some writing – been there, done that! What we did learn, for most browsers, I’d guess, is if you realize what you’ve done, you can just hit the browser’s back button, see your writing still there, insert the “PS” at the very beginning, and submit again.

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
  464. Hail says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “I love Hispanics!”
    — Donald Trump, May 2016

    The Trump-as-Caudillo theory: Fighting Third Worldization through another form of Third Worldization,” late-February 2025, Hail To You.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @muggles
  465. Also, WDCB.org’s Juke Box Saturday Night for yesterday features Gene Krupa on the air, if anyone’s interested.

    Availible on their two-week archive.
    https://wdcb.org/archive

  466. Jack D says:
    @John Johnson

    He and writers like Gould knew full well as to what they were doing which is to undermine Christian creationism….

    That’s ridiculous. 1st of all , the account of the world being created by God in 6 days is in the Jewish bible and has nothing to do with Christianity per se.

    2nd, no serious scientist has accepted the Biblical account as being literally true for at least 200 years. They were not seeking to “undermine” creationism because to them it was so ridiculous as to be unworthy of serious engagement just as no serious scientist nowadays seeks to “undermine” flat earthism.

  467. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Surely you are aware that there were numerous Israeli “art students” roaming around the country prior to 9/11, several hundred by some estimates. I believe that more than a hundred of them were arrested after 9/11.

    They were not just backpackers working off the books to fund their year abroad. They were trying to, and succeeding in, gaining access to non-public areas of government offices of the DEA, the DoJ, and the DoD. They were showing up at the private residences of employees of those same agencies to peddle their “art” (and, presumably, to gather personal information that could be used to spoof I.D.s).

    There is no innocuous explanation for this. They were not just carefree youths on vacation. They were members of a spy ring. I am not aware of any comparable operation carried out by any other nation. No doubt that we are spied on by Russia, France, China, and others. But none of them seem to be quite so brazen about it as is Israel. A lot of the US Government doesn’t seem to be too concerned with Israeli spies. Not because there aren’t any. They’re just not that concerned. Perhaps they’ve been told to stand down, as Alexander Acosta was told about Jeffrey Epstein.

    A case at Cal Tech illustrates what can happen to a person who raises an alarm about Israeli espionage:

    Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

    https://www.pasadenastarnews.com/2014/11/13/caltech-professor-claims-israeli-spy-infiltrated-jpl/

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @res
    , @James B. Shearer
  468. Jack D says:
    @Mark G.

    Don’t discount the factor of food stamps. Whatever you subsidize you get more of. Back in the day, poor people did not have the money to stuff themselves like pigs. Now they pile the cart high with all sorts of junk food and the gubmint pays for it all. If I knew everything in my grocery cart was free (and on a use it or lose it basis every month) I might be tempted to put more crap in there also.

    I used to go grocery shopping in the ghetto of W. Philly (no “food dessert” – a very well stocked supermarket – the (white) owner drives a Bentley). I would go in there and buy a few modest fruits and vegetables and some other staples. In front of me was always a big momma with her cart piled high with crap and 99% of the time she paid for it with an EBT card. If I ever saw a local paying for their order with actual money it was a shock. Usually this was only if the female was accompanied by a male.

    The food producers, the supermarket owners, etc. all LOVE this just as much as the recipients themselves. If black people went back to eating just collard greens and hog jowls there would be no new Bentleys in the budget.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  469. Mike Tre says:
    @res

    “I am not seeing much more concrete. Anyone?”

    In my neck of the woods, children are actually prohibited from walking to school. Now, I’ll avoid going to into all of the ancillary problems with this sort of central planning insanity, and shouldn’t have explain why conditioning children from the age of 5 to just get in sit down and shut up is a really bad idea.

    So how about eliminating 95% of busing altogether, mandate that children walk to school through the ~8th grade, and increasing the amount of structured physical activity children get in a school environment, daily. Eliminate vending machines and refined sugar from school cafeterias. Bring Ag, wood shop, home ec, and auto shop back into the school curriculum. Require students to clean their own school spaces (as the Japanese do)

    Of course, this requires (lesbian physical education) teachers to get off of their fat asses and actually run a PF curriculum, and principals to manage their faculty. Yes I realize what I suggest is far fetched only in the sense that no one in charge has the desire or will to change anything.

    The point is start conditioning children at a young age to accept the idea of physical activity. Teach them how the body works and how nutrition works. Stop exposing them to “foods” that are addictive and bad for them.

    As for older people in all government jobs, get rid of chairs and convert all of the desks to accommodate standing. I’m sure I could think of more ideas and so can anyone else.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
  470. res says:
    @Mr. Anon
    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Jack D
  471. @Corvinus

    “Which back then and even now is patently offensive to the rule of law.”

    Funny thing. Over the entire four years of the “Biden” regime, Mayorkas opened the borders and allowed the entire freaking Third World to bum rush over the US border. In many instances, they even went beyond that, flying them in at taxpayer expense, creating a phone app to facilitate their illegal entry, etc. Not once did I ever read a comment from you objecting to any of this, even though it was in flagrant disregard of the law. The only reasonable conclusion to draw from this is that you do not give a wet shit about the “rule of law.” For you, it is only a rhetorical weapon to tar your enemies.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  472. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘To me, this was an exercise in Totalitarianism by the CCP over the Chinese people to test out all the new software, hardware, and AI technology.’

    I don’t doubt your description of what physically transpired — it was illuminating — but the above strikes me as an insufficient motive. I still don’t believe governments fuck with their people just to see what will happen. What made the Chinese authorities feel compelled to do this?

    …it’d be interesting to know if they were taking it seriously in their private lives — or were they pulling a Gavin Newsom? Masks and quarantines are for the peasants?

  473. @Mike Tre

    I’ve simply been enjoying of late using the term “MAGAtards” and variations thereon, the way JackeD took a liking to “Men of UNZ.” In 2016 I even linked my comments to Donald Trump’s campaign website, and I’ve voted for him three times. So call me a MAGAtard. What other choice do I have?

    I just have been arguing about a specific case of outrageous behavior that is happening for the pleasure of one foreign people and demographic. There are around 30,000,000 people I would like kicked out of my country, and I would like a moratorium on all non-European, non Christian-heritage immigration.

    But I also would like to see, and can only dream about, an end to kissing Jewish and Zionist and Israeli asses. I don’t like seeing my fellow Americans getting all rah-rah and drippy-dicked about a small number of ragheads — or anyone else who is a legal guest here — being fucked around with. It’s a sideshow and obviously it is working.

    Meanwhile, work continues by the powers that be on limiting freedom of speech and criticism of certain groups and certain subjects.

  474. Corvinus says:
    @deep anonymous

    “Funny thing. Over the entire four years of the “Biden” regime, Mayorkas opened the borders and allowed the entire freaking Third World to bum rush over the US border.”

    —Biden had even fewer deportations than Trump during his first two years in office when not counting rapid expulsions under a COVID-era health measure which was used millions of times to turn people back to Mexico. But, faced with much higher numbers of migrants arriving at the border, he greatly increased deportations – including those of families – in federal fiscal year 2023 and the first five months of the 2024 fiscal year, outpacing Trump.—

    “flying them in at taxpayer expense, creating a phone app to facilitate their illegal entry, etc.”

    You mean a phone app to apply for asylum. Be more precise next time.

    https://abc7.com/amp/post/cbp-app-repurposed-home-allows-migrants-country-illegally-deport-dhs-secretary-kristi-noem-says/16001873/

    “Not once did I ever read a comment from you objecting to any of this, even though it was in flagrant disregard of the law.”

    Never heard about this app before. Looks like the Trump Administration was behind it originally. So, no, it wasn’t illegal or a flagrant disregard for the law.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/it-may-be-the-end-for-the-border-app-that-became-a-salvation-for-migrants-to-legally-enter-the-us

    —CBP One has brought nearly 1 million people to the U.S. on two-year permits with eligibility to work. U.S. Customs and Border Protection debuted CBP One near the end of Trump’s first term as a way for customs brokers to schedule inspections and for visitors with short-term visas to extend stays. The Biden administration extended its use to migrants to replace an opaque patchwork of exemptions to a pandemic-related asylum ban that was then in place.—

    “The only reasonable conclusion to draw from this is that you do not give a wet shit about the “rule of law.” For you, it is only a rhetorical weapon to tar your enemies.”

    Thanks for your projection.

  475. Brutusale says:
    @res

    res smiles, elaborately twirls his pistols, and slaps them back in his holsters.

  476. @William Badwhite

    There are also a lot of people who don’t love Trump, but hate those that hate him.

    bing, bing, bing, bing

  477. @Jack D

    You left out the detail they are sociopaths.

  478. AKAHorace says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    … being ‘threatened’ by a US takeover is silly—if they’re “postnational”, being annexed by the United States should be no big deal for them.

    It looks as if Trump’s threats have ensured that the Postnationals (AKA Liberals) are ensured another four years in power. Before he started threatening Canada, polls showed the Liberals facing one of their worst defeats in history with the Tories easily getting a majority in Parlement. Now things have reversed and the Liberals are talking about forming an International coalition against the States.

    Ed West said it best

    If the last few months has seen a vindication of the Great Man Theory of History, in the form of Elon Musk and Donald Trump, it’s also lent support to the Great Madman Theory of History: many historical events are explained by people making inexplicably bad decisions which prove almost like a deus ex machina for opponents.

    These freakish strokes of luck are as unsatisfactory an explanation in history as they are in fiction – but it does happen, and maybe it’s happening now. It could be that Trump’s determination to alienate every possible ally will come under this category, and that his reckless behaviour will cause a totally winnable war against Woke (TM) to be lost; already the Canadian Liberals, on course for a heavy defeat, have been saved by Trump’s intervention.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  479. Jack D says:
    @res

    Why were they interested in penetrating the DEA of all US gov agencies? What sort of national secrets does the DEA have that the Israeli government would want to know (and which would be against the interests of the American people for them to know)?

    Why are all of these links 20 years old and there have been no further developments? This sounds to me like a lot of smoke but no real fire.

    I don’t doubt that the Israelis spy on friendly governments. The US sure as hell does.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spied-merkel-other-top-european-officials-through-danish-2021-05-30/

    The US lacks the “moral high ground” to complain about our allies spying on us. Everyone spies on everybody.

    In the US, it seems like we have more problems with the enemy within – Americans like Jack Teixeira and Bradley (“Chelsea”) Manning who release our top secrets without anyone even having to pay them.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @Colin Wright
  480. @Jack D

    When the big time comes for you and your compilation book, Jack, this one may be chosen for the dust jacket.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  481. @Colin Wright

    I still don’t believe governments fuck with their people just to see what will happen.

    I do. I’ve seen it. However, there’s more to that motivation than just “seeing”, as in an experiment. They want to see how far they can go, so next time ..

    What made the Chinese authorities feel compelled to do this?

    Authorities are gonna authoritah, as it were. It’s all they know – they are control freaks who think they are akin to gods.

    We’ve saw it here, with Governors, Mayors, etc. all over the place… right about 5 years ago today.

    As for the Gavin Newscum / Chinese Laundry restaurant and all that, yes, I really doubt any of the CCP officials were scared about dying from the Kung Flu either. I think they’d wear the masks in public to “save face”. (Ha, I made a funny!).

    Also, it’s not so weird there to see those medical masks on people there, as Chinese people wore them way before the Flu Manchu for reasons of particulate pollution.

  482. Jack D says:
    @res

    Women continue to be underrepresented in STEM fields, such as engineering and computer science.

    Why are women only considered “underrepresented” in desirable jobs and not in undesirable ones like garbage collector? Why don’t we ever hear about men being “underrepresented” as elementary school teachers or speech pathologists?

    the test massaged to improve female scores relative to males?

    More likely the test “massaged” (made easier) to improve black scores relative to white/Asian and improving female scores was an unintended side effect.

    Except for a handful of STEM heavy schools such as Caltech and MIT that are 55/45 male, most colleges today are majority female anyway (overall 42/58 and if you were to take out the STEM schools the remaining ones would be even more female majority) so they don’t need to be massaging the female scores anymore.

    Among blacks, the gender gap is even worse: Among blacks, black women get 64.1% of bachelor’s degrees, 71.5% of master’s degrees and 65.9% of doctoral, medical, and dental degrees. Black women are probably no smarter than black men but they are more able to conform their behavior to get thru a degree program.

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  483. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    If you’ve ever dealt with TSA/security/government mouth-breathing retarded goons, you know that I mean. Ever since I started writing critical comments here (I mean truly critical of the powers that be, not my previously agreeable comments to Steve) I have magically been taken aside for, cough — “RANDOM” — screening at airports.

    Again and again.

    It is not random

    Your comments here lately have taken on a “all about Buzz” look and feel.

    I’m not a fan of the TSA but when the lovely Muslim nutsos (who many here seem to cherish) began hijacking airliners decades ago, something bad had to stop something worse. Or did you forget about 9/11?

    I have traveled abroad many times since I began posting here and not once have I been given any unusual extra screening (well, once, overseas…) even that wasn’t much.

    I think one of your bad habits (too much drinking) is leading you into the “histrionic” personality disorder.

    No, the government isn’t spying on you. They already know from reading your posts you are just another commentator here with opinions.

    Maybe the TSA agents are just smelling your breath.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Mr. Anon
  484. @Colin Wright

    I still don’t believe governments fuck with their people just to see what will happen.

    I was with you until they shut down the parks and the beaches and told everybody that they needed a reason to be outside their front door in 2020. They found out they could put the entire country under virtual house arrest.

    That might have been the primary purpose for the whole episode.

    By the way the new Adminstration claimed they were going to get to the bottom of the New Jersey drones. I saw a one sentence statement. The FAA knew all about it.

    No shit. Also: we may feel free to speculate why it is that we will not be informed.

  485. @Buzz Mohawk

    Americans getting all rah-rah and drippy-dicked about

    the next target on Uncle Sam’s hit list is, along with distract/divide domestic issues, the essence of Establishment politics.

    All that’s needed is our votes, and that’s all we’re really allowed to contribute.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  486. @John Johnson

    Gene editing technologies used correctly have the ability to enhance human life. You are overlooking the data showing the deleterious effects of mRNA when used incorrectly i.e. as a vaccine.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @John Johnson
  487. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    isn’t “Sabra” the name of a mass-produced hummis?

    Hummis, no. Hummus, yes. Sabra is owned by the Pepsi company nowadays. Formerly it was a joint venture with an Israeli company but there was too much trouble with boycotts, etc. so they sold their half to Pepsi (Frito Lay) in 2024 and now are all American (except for the name. Originally it was call the Sabra-Blue & White company just in case you didn’t know what Sabra meant.

    According to the wiki, Sabra had $1 billion in annual sales by 2016. To parallel the rising consumer demand for hummus, American farmers have increased their production of chickpeas four-fold since 2009, harvesting more than 100 million pounds in 2015, up from about 25 million pounds in 2009. I’m sure it is even more now. So the Men of Unz can dip heartily without worrying that they are enriching any Jews.

    Sabra also contains good old American soybean oil instead of expensive imported olive oil so it is even more patriotic (if perhaps less authentic).

    Hummus is very easy to make in a blender or food processor. I’ve been making it for decades (canned chick peas – a good brand such as Goya work fine, no need to cook the chick peas from dried). When you make it at home you can use “real” ingredients such as olive oil and lemon juice instead of powdered citric acid and you can skip the potassium sorbate. You throw in a few simple ingredients, whirl the thing for maybe 30 seconds and viola, you have hummus that is better than the store bought stuff.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Ralph L
  488. muggles says:
    @Hail

    What about the “thirdworldization” of former President Trump by the Dem/commie political machines?

    You know, where the loser of an election is railroaded to jail and accordingly kept off the next presidential ballot?

    That is the norm there when they bother to hold elections.

    It is also what Putin does (the former, “second world”). Only his former opponents are sent to Siberia first and then die mysteriously from “illness” or something.

    The numerous bogus court cases levied against Trump (and his former aides, lawyers, etc.) were all along the South American model. They mostly failed. The one verdict that was “guilty” by a kangaroo NYC court/judge was so serious that, unlike every other guilty verdict in history, no punishment of any kind was levied.

    Trump hasn’t started any wars, nor has he jailed any of his former political opponents. Their worst fate in a handful of cases was to be removed from cushy federal jobs or losing access to government “secret intelligence” or favored seats at presidential press conferences.

    The Dem/commies tried to keep Trump from running at all. They failed. Now he is more popular than ever.

    Even their psyops efforts to murder him failed.

    Just wait until more of the dirty secrets from the Biden administration are uncovered.

    Then we’ll find out who the “caudillo” really was…

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
  489. @Corvinus

    The financial stripping of the lower and middle class –within white and your favorite non-white populations — occurred during the Ronny Raygun Admin. whence the Wall Street degenerates eyeballed all of that juicy pension money. Will you ever tire of defending piracy?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  490. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Meanwhile, work continues by the powers that be on limiting freedom of speech and criticism of certain groups and certain subjects.

    Are you referring to the mass censorship of non Woke commentary on social media for many years until very recently? Or the non-existence of any conservate/right/libertarian/Republican views or commentators on the government funded propaganda outlets like NPR and VOA?

    Or the total absence of any conservative or even moderate news commentators on legacy media outlets other than Fox?

    The silencing and suppression, and non-employment or even firing of non-Woke professors at major colleges and universities. How many magazines and newspapers are owned or run by non-Democrats or leftists? Any?

    You should be more specific.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  491. @Jack D

    “Among blacks, the gender gap is even worse[]”

    (Emphasis added.) Tacitly assuming “gender gaps” are bad.

    I agree generally with your comment, but quote this to illustrate how pervasive is the indoctrination. I do not believe you actually regard “gender gaps” as inherently bad, where they happen without top-down interference, they typically reflect differences in innate abilities and interests. But we are conditioned to speak in someone else’s language, as I try to illustrate here. It actually is really difficult to catch oneself doing this, and I am not doing it to single you out, but rather, to illustrate the point.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  492. Corvinus says:
    @Corpse Tooth

    “The financial stripping of the lower and middle class –within white and your favorite non-white populations — occurred during the Ronny Raygun Admin. whence the Wall Street degenerates eyeballed all of that juicy pension money.”

    Right, conservative wealthy whites f—- over their brethren. Anti-white b——. They don’t want strict regulations.

    “Will you ever tire of defending piracy”

    Since when have I supported the vampires of Wall Street?

  493. @Jack D

    Hummus is great stuff. Too bad the local place won’t take cash from me for the $3-4 Hummus & Pita bread snack. No cash – no deal!

    I may prompt my wife to see if she doesn’t mind making some of this for us. If she thinks it’s not healthy, no matter the reason or even what RFK, Jr. says about Hummus on tic-tock, then, I guess we ain’t having it!

    • Replies: @Jack D
  494. @muggles

    The other side’s worse!

    Desiccated deflection. Just come out and say that you’re fine with what’s happening.

    • Replies: @muggles
  495. Jack D says:
    @Greta Handel

    Keep in mind that only 27% of food stamp recipients are black. Of course this means that they are enrolled at double their rate of prevalence in the general population but it’s not just for blacks.

    44.6% of adult recipients and 31.5% of child food stamp recipients are non-Hispanic White ( vs. the 47% of children who are still white) so at least some white people get benefits too. Visit any Wal-Mart in a lower class white area and follow the obese women waddling to the cash register and I’ll venture that they will pull out the EBT card too.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  496. @Buzz Mohawk

    Meanwhile, work continues by the powers that be on limiting freedom of speech and criticism of certain groups and certain subjects.

    What do you do, Buzz, watch ATN all the time? (The Anti-Trump Network)

    I mean, this very complaint of yours is one of the areas in which Trump-47 has surprised me greatly by kicking ass and taking names. Whether it’s his weapon to use or not, he’s been using the weapon of threats to stop that sweet, sweet, Federal funding to all the too-many Institutions of America that live off it to crush D.I.E. programs all over the place.

    Seriously, I don’t know where you get your news from. If it’s all from TUR here, well, the anti-all-things-American stance has gotten worse. It’d gotten nearly Fred Reed-like around here. Talk about all the problems, then you see anyone even trying to solve them, and he’s now the crab to drag down into the bucket.

    Here’s my take of the modern Fred Reed (not the old Fred-on-Everything guy) from some years back:

    [Fred Reed mode] America is decaying. There is no unified American culture anymore. There are lots of people mixed together from all over the world. There are bad ignorant Americans that are trying to prevent people from coming in from all over the world. Things don’t work well anymore. The new foreigners are better than those ignorant foreigner-hating Americans at working. America has changed for the worse from back when I was a kid when it was 90% white.

    Trump is a clown. The TV news that I watch all day is full of people criticizing the President for everything and making fun of him. TV sucks. Americans should see how bad their country is on the TV. Trump wants a wall built. Bad ignorant Americans want a border barrier built. Walls don’t work. Americans just don’t want we Mexicans to assimilate and exchange bodily fluids with them. Mexicans don’t want to assimilate and be part of the crass, new, sick American culture that I watch on TV. Mexican culture is better and we have great engineering schools and gated communities. Mexico is better, so Mexicans don’t want to go to America. There is no need for a wall, but they don’t work anyway. Bodily fluids! [/Fred Reed mode]

    I don’t want to hear from that asshole again.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  497. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Couldn’t you just buy a debit card for cash?

    IDK what rules your wife operates by but hummus is pretty healthy stuff in my book, esp. if you make it with olive oil instead of soy. Chickpeas have lots of protein and fiber.

  498. @Greta Handel

    Attaboy!

    Next time around, just own up.

    I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with. Maybe you just like to make vague concern troll posts?

    The law was broken, according to quotes you finally coughed up, and the feds had her arrested. Luckily there was some dramatic video of the event, which could serve to deter other law-breaking aliens from coming here. I guess an anti-American foreigner like you hates it when America enforces its immigration/visitation laws.

    • Troll: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  499. Jack D says:
    @deep anonymous

    Usually the “gender gap” means that women are getting the short end of the stick but the modern day higher ed gender gap actually favors women and especially black women. When feminists demand that we end the gender gap they don’t mean that fewer women should be admitted to college.

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  500. Anonymous[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corpse Tooth

    You are overlooking the data showing the deleterious effects of mRNA when used incorrectly

    Recall, as has been pointed out many times, Johnson is both lazy and stupid.

  501. @Jack D

    I’ll tell her Jack D. said so. ;-}

    I think we’ve been through this before about this cash thing. It’s about the principle and the Book of Revelation, not what’s in my wallet (a debit card and a CC, the latter in my wife’s name because my credit rating is “—-” – unknown value.)

  502. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    Which back then and even now is patently offensive to the rule of law.

    Says the guy, like the jurist, who fails to understand the meaning of jurisdiction. In her defense, she recognized the inanity of her directive and simply declared the objective possible because . . . no reasons offered. Of course that didn’t stop you from making a fool of yourself, did it?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  503. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Sailer left behind some blueberries dingleberries.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  504. Mike Tre says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    ” I don’t like seeing my fellow Americans getting all rah-rah and drippy-dicked about a small number of ragheads”

    Sure, but the issue is brought up by those advocating for these foreign agitators on some warped interpretation of freedom of speech. It’s an over statement to suggest that America firsters simply observing “he has to go back” as getting drippy dicked.

    Conversely, I’m tired of my fellow Americans advocating for foreign brown people to remain here simply because Palestinians/insert-pet-immigrant-invading-group-here have been elevated to some sacred victim group. Millions of white families are getting suffocated by the effects of these disastrous immigration policies and loopholes. And the tactic they (Colin, Greta) use is the same manipulative appeal to emotion that other group of people are experts at doing. These foreign “students” come here, bump a white applicant out of a spot in university, and then use that kid’s parents’ tax dollars to get an education in some bullshit grievance major? Fuck. That.

  505. res says:
    @Jack D

    Why were they interested in penetrating the DEA of all US gov agencies? What sort of national secrets does the DEA have that the Israeli government would want to know (and which would be against the interests of the American people for them to know)?

    An interesting question. One important point is the DEA report was dated June, 2001. Obviously before 9/11 tied some loose ends together. The enclosing report (my link) was dated September 15, 2004. Included again for easy reference.
    https://www.antiwar.com/rep2/MemorandumtotheCommissionandSelectCommitteesbold.pdf

    Some quotes from the DEA report.

    Starting on page 87 we have a list of employees of non-DEA offices approached in the New Orleans Division.

    105. The following offices reported incidents of Israeli students approaching their
    employees at their office or residence:

    United States Secret Service New Orleans, LA

    Federal Bureau of Investigation / New Orleans, LA

    US. Marshals Service / New Orleans, LA

    U.S. Federal Protective Service New Orleans, LA

    U.S. Federal Protective Service New Orleans, LA

    Page 93.

    Washington D.C. Division

    130. On March 5, 2001, a Richmond area ATF Agent and FBI Agent were solicited at
    their homes by two females claiming to be Israeli art students.

    Page 103.

    Tinker Air Force Base

    175. On April 30,2001, an Air Force alert was issued from Tinker Air Force (TAFB), in Oklahoma City concerning a “possible intelligence collection effort being conducted by Israeli Art Students”. On May 16, 2001, U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI), TAFB, and the Midwest City Police Department (MCPD), requested assistance from I&NS Oklahoma City to a location in Midwest City, OK It was indicated that four (4) individuals from Israel had been encountered by the MCPD attempting to sell art in the Midwest City area.

    Volk Field Air National Guard Base, Camp Douglas, Wisconsin

    178. On Saturday, May 19, 2001, at approximately 3:10 pm, two Israeli Nationals
    requested permission to visit a museum located at Volk Field, ANG Base. Approximately
    ten minutes after being allowed on the base, the two were seen on an active runway,
    taking photographs.

    So perhaps a better question would be: why was the DEA the only organization which noticed?

    Exhibit B contains what looks like a most interesting “coincidence” on pp. 114-118.
    “Members of Israeli Groups and Future Hijackers and FBI Suspects in Key Towns and Areas”

    Page 7 has this.

    1. In the months leading up to September 11, 2001, the Israeli DEA Groups1 were spying on the United States.2 They were at the same time keeping Arab groups in our country under surveillance, including the future hijackers and other FBI suspects in the catastrophic
    attacks of September 11. The base of operations for both the Israeli DEA Groups and the future hijackers of the World Trade Center Planes and the Pennsylvania Plane was in and around Hollywood, Florida.

    2. During the same period, the Israeli New Jersey Group was keeping under surveillance Arab groups in Bergen and Hudson Counties, New Jersey, across the Hudson River from Manhattan, including the future hijackers of the Pentagon Plane, whose center of operations was also in Bergen and Hudson Counties. The Israeli New Jersey Group appears to have been aware, before they occurred, that hijackings had been planned by Arab terrorists, as evidenced by their jubilation when the World Trade Center was first struck, by the North Tower Plane. The leader of the Israeli New Jersey Group, who has fled the United States for Israel, is included, along with the names of the hijackers and FBI suspects, on the May 2002 FBI Suspect List.

    From page 9. Emphasis mine.

    In June 2001, the Office of Security of the Drug Enforcement Administration (the “DEA”) issued a long report (the “DEA Report”) describing in precise detail the attempts of approximately 125 or more nationals of a foreign country, most posing as art students, “to penetrate several DEA Field Offices in the continental United States.” Many of these individuals also visited the residences of numerous DEA officials and “other agencies’ facilities and the residences of their employees.” The DEA Report states that “these incidents have occurred since at least the beginning of 2000, and have continued to the present.” They were ongoing activities in the summer of 2001. A copy of the DEA Report is attached as Exhibit A.

    From page 16.

    When the DEA Report was prepared, however, the DEA and the INS were of course unaware of the extensive activities and operations in the United States of the future September 11 hijackers and their suspected collaborators, whom the Israeli DEA Groups appear to have had in their sites as well. Why the Israeli DEA Groups would be engaged in both activities, where their spying on the DEA would clearly raise suspicions among U.S. law enforcement authorities, is unclear. It may well have been an effective distraction of others from or “cover” for their primary objective. This question is discussed further below at p. 43.

    From page 49 (PDF #, paper # 43, referenced just above).

    But in all likelihood the selling of art and (though far riskier) the DEA spying were covers for their more important work of keeping Arab groups under surveillance in the United States. This activity appears ultimately to have led the Israelis to the future hijackers, and forced upon them unwelcome decisions as to how much, and when, they should tell the United States of what they had learned.

    Regarding the overall “why the DEA?” question. This from pp. 14-15 may be relevant.

    The Israeli DEA Groups were clearly spying on the Drug Enforcement Agency, and thus upon the United States. Many individuals in the DEA Groups may have been trying to do no more than sell paintings (albeit in violation of their visa status and thus unlawfully), but the total number of visits to DEA offices, laboratories and residences precludes any characterization of these efforts as a commonplace sales endeavor.30 The DEA Report speculates that the spying by the Israeli DEA Groups was related to an ongoing ecstasy investigation.31 In the course of an earlier ecstasy investigation, the DEA feared its communications systems had been compromised.32

    Back to you.

    Why are all of these links 20 years old and there have been no further developments? This sounds to me like a lot of smoke but no real fire.

    That IS the interesting question here. I suspect we have rather different ideas of why that might be. Perhaps the thorough followup regarding the USS Liberty incident makes a good comparison?

    I don’t doubt that the Israelis spy on friendly governments. The US sure as hell does.

    Agreed. Which is what makes it so “entertaining” when the Israelis (and the US for that matter) deny it.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49678034
    “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has flatly denied a report that his country was spying on the US.”

    Talking about Jonathan Pollard and his hero’s welcome in Israel would just be piling on.

    • Agree: Mike Conrad
    • LOL: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  506. @Buzz Mohawk

    It’s just a lack of manners.

    Behaviour of Israeli tourists
    byu/TommZ5 inIsrael

    Behaviour of Israeli tourists
    …………………………………..
    Unfortunately, i had to witness this. As there is no Primark in Israel, and a clothes are quite expensive, and we are talking about certain category of citizens who are not particularly well mannered; “ugly Israel” representatives come abroad with empty suitcases and 100 euro to attempt to scrab from a poor Primark a whole wardrobe in one sitting. They shout, push, try on every piece in the store, throwing things on the floor, never try minimise the havoc they are causing etc. It is very very embarrassing to most of other Israelis who actually are nice and polite.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….

    I attend a synagogue abroad where we have many Israelis (locals and tourists), and I occasionally found myself eating out with them after being invited.

    I often dread going to eat in restaurants abroad with Israelis, especially ones from sefaradi or ultra orthodox origins.

    The Sefarads I have eaten with would make me cringe by doing things like flicking their fingers to get a waiter’s attention, talking loud, speaking terrible English (using rude words to describe certain wants / needs) and boasting about their army experience in countries that often don’t see our army positively.

    Ultra orthodox tend to come with 4-6 kids, all mostly very loud and badly mannered while the parents completely ignore them (running, screaming, tossing food etc). They also tend to leave a mess behind for others to clean up.

    The worst was when a new Israeli acquaintance openly hit on a waitress. He said “Hey, you know, you look gold “

    The waitress answered “err… thanks”.

    He proceeded “Look, I know you goy, but me no care, you know? Me like all good looking girls”.

    I immediately jumped in and apologized on his behalf. I told her he was drunk (which he clearly wasn’t), and went on to berate him.

    He then laughed and told me to relax, that he’s just kidding and girls tend to like I his way of talking anyway. Like seriously, wtf man? Who tf would enjoy this kind of condescending attitude?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @epebble
  507. @Greta Handel

    distract/divide domestic issues… .

    .. ARE THE issues! The US could (and surely should) stay the hell out of the rest of the world’s business, even if just for the reason alone that THAT’s the distraction.

    The Immigration Invasion is THE existential issue. If we don’t fix (how about mend) that, I don’t care what else gets fixed or not, because it would no longer be my country to worry about. The Commie-style Cult-Rev 2.0 D.I.E. and other anti-White struggle session stuff* are important too. Trump has been doing a bang-up job on both issues, or at least whole-heartedly trying. What, do you all have your ears closed on this? (Well just see my 1st comment on this thread for more items.)

    I honestly don’t care what happens in the Middle East compared to what happens over here. They’ve been going at it way before I was alive, for 75 years now. Trouble in the Middle East as a generic, dog ate the whole broadcast, story has been a joke for quite a while. Trump’s ego, more than anything, thinking after Jimmy Carter tried his best, then this guy, then this guy, HE’s gonna be the one to SOLVE this problem is mostly what’s getting us involved. Hard pressure from Israel too? Sure. But I thought Trump was at this IDGAF stage now…

    .

    * If not the obvious reasons, one should be against this based on D.I.E. and wokeness now greatly decreasing competence levels in this country. I said it before, and iSteve does now too – things are getting shoddier, in all kinds of endeavors.

    • Agree: J.Ross, Mark G., Mike Tre
  508. J.Ross says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    One of the earliest “anti-Semitic” memes online, actually predating 4chan by quite a bit, was undoctored photographs of signs posted in Thai (etc) hotels, flatly refusing to serve Israeli patrons on the basis of previous bad experiences.
    Advice from a Hebrew phrasebook: if you need directions, just stand on the street and bark the word for the place you’re trying to find. If they don’t know they’ll keep walking and if they do know someone will stop and explain.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  509. @muggles

    I’m not a fan of the TSA but when the lovely Muslim nutsos (who many here seem to cherish) began hijacking airliners decades ago, something bad had to stop something worse. Or did you forget about 9/11?

    My understanding is that the TSA shoe-race routine is all B.S. They changed procedures so no one can get into the cockpit.

    But hey: it keeps us safe from Tulsi Gabbard.

    …or did. I bet she’s allowed to run amok now.

    As to silliness overseas, in Argentina I was forced to surrender my tape measure. My wife had to give up a rock she had found.

    I’m trying to picture this…

  510. epebble says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That reads like part of script from Borat. It is unlikely that Sacha Baron Cohen made it out of whole cloth without an insider’s understanding about his community.

  511. @Jack D

    10 Healthy Foods You Can’t Eat on the Keto Diet

    1. Chickpeas.

    If she has him on keto it’s like rule #1 for all the keto heads.

  512. @Colin Wright

    I’ve got plenty of TSA stories and commentary, Colin (see 16 Years of Spreading Democracy – They still hate us for our freedoms(?) for a taste of that), but my favorite might be from the Chinese version of the TSA in Shanghai on that ’23 trip.

    I must have ran one bag through 7 times, as each time the guy found some other little thing and had to run it (like there’s a bomb in my stack of quarters somehow) and the bag again. I used to have all my keys on one keychain, but our newest vehicle, model-year-wise, has a big fat fob, so I have it separate. Well, I didn’t know where that was after this long journey, so I wanted the guy to keep running the bag though until I found that key fob!

    I was motioning him to run it again to help me find my key fob, and making ignition-key motions, as he knew no English and I knew nearly no Chinese. He was of no freaking help! What good are these guys?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  513. @Mr. Anon

    “…They were members of a spy ring. I am not aware of any comparable operation carried out by any other nation. No doubt that we are spied on by Russia, France, China, and others. But none of them seem to be quite so brazen about it as is Israel. …”

    Office of Personnel Management data breach :

    “The Office of Personnel Management data breach was a 2015 data breach targeting Standard Form 86 (SF-86) U.S. government security clearance records retained by the United States Office of Personnel Management (OPM). One of the largest breaches of government data in U.S. history, the attack was carried out by an advanced persistent threat based in China, widely believed to be the Jiangsu State Security Department, a subsidiary of the Government of China’s Ministry of State Security spy agency.”

    “In June 2015, OPM announced that it had been the target of a data breach targeting personnel records.[1] Approximately 22.1 million records were affected, including records related to government employees, other people who had undergone background checks, and their friends and family.[2][3] One of the largest breaches of government data in U.S. history,[1] information that was obtained and exfiltrated in the breach[4] included personally identifiable information such as Social Security numbers,[5] as well as names, dates and places of birth, and addresses.[6] State-sponsored hackers working on behalf of the Chinese government carried out the attack.[4][7]”

  514. @Colin Wright

    Then, as I was walking through one time, I saw the usual manager that I know well (I try to no longer take my anger at the unConstitutionality of it all personally anymore), and he had just found a pistol cartridge in someone’s luggage. We started figuring out what caliber it was, talking 9 mm vs .38 and what guns we each had, very friendly like. It was one round – who cares?

    Do you know, Colin, that something like 50 guns get found in hand luggage each week over the various airports in America? About half are loaded, and occasionally there’s a round in the chamber. It’s just America. What’s the problem? A doctor friend accidentally brought his Glock through – he got a grilling and end up paying a hefty fine later, but he still made his same flight for the ski trip.

    Don’t get me started about the (extremely vetted, back to Kindergarten in the old country) Somalians working for the TSA in Minneapolis, searching through private items and parts of White grannies and toddlers, cause, Freedom! Oh, they work out on the ramp too, with access to all kinds of compartments on planes. Feel safer yet?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Corvinus
  515. I don’t know, but this is beginning to look like a conspiracy, along with ordinary Irish rooting for Palestinians (at least a part of them)….

    Unbelievable

    As an Irish woman I can’t tell you how hard this is for me to watch this video
    ……………………………………………………………
    In the UK they put them in warm Hotels with 3 square meals a day, private health care , free phones and money to live off plus free driving lessons ! Our veterans are living on the streets and no doubt many pensioners will have died this winter ! Shame on our Governments
    …………………………………………………………………….
    The Irish government should be jailed
    …………………………………………………………………………
    I work for one of the main supermarkets in Ireland, as a cashier and my hours have been cut in half because of budget cuts. I’m lucky to earn 200 a week and I’m in my 40’s born and reared here. I see these immigrants coming in all the time with their €1000 euro gift cards and plenty of €10 off 50 vouchers too. Many of them have zero manners and a belief that women are 2nd class citizens. It’s appalling

    And plans for plantation plus pro-Palestinian idiots

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  516. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘…What good are these guys?’

    Silly question. Why would they be working for TSA if they were any good?

  517. @Achmed E. Newman

    Do you know, Colin, that something like 50 guns get found in hand luggage each week over the various airports in America? About half are loaded, and occasionally there’s a round in the chamber. It’s just America…

    Well, I can relate. I lost my pocketknife the last time I flew. Simply hadn’t thought of it…

    I suppose it’s the same with people who habitually walk around with 9mm Glocks in their pocket.

    …Supposedly Americans going into Canada get nailed all the time for that.

  518. @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘I don’t know, but this is beginning to look like a conspiracy, along with ordinary Irish rooting for Palestinians (at least a part of them)….’

    Oh look. A Jew trying to put xenophobia to good use.

    Fuck you. People hate Israel because it’s evil. Nothing to do with how there are too many Guatemalans here.

    • Replies: @muggles
  519. Mark G. says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “The immigration invasion is THE existential issue.”

    Yes, most of the ways 2025 is worse than 1965 are immigration related. I miss the America of 1965. Part of it is old age nostalgia for one’s youth but, except for some technological advances, I think life really was better then.

    In the sixty years since 1965 we have had many chances to fix the immigration system but keep getting distracted by something else. The biggest missed opportunity was after the Soviet Union imploded. We could have focused on the immigration issue then. Peter Brimelow’s Alien Nation book was a bestseller and offered a good blueprint on how to fix the problem.

    We got distracted by a silly Bill Clinton sex scandal, then 9/11 came along followed by the invasion of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Since then something else has always come along to provide another distraction, the most recent being the excessive response to Covid and becoming involved in the Ukrainian-Russian and Israeli-Palestinian feuds. We really need to prioritize finally getting control of our borders and not listen to people who want to put something else at the top of the list of problems needing to be solved.

  520. @Greta Handel

    Score:

    Errican — 1
    Handel — 0

    Thanks for playing, better luck next time. 🙂

  521. Mr. Anon says:
    @muggles

    I’m not a fan of the TSA but when the lovely Muslim nutsos (who many here seem to cherish) began hijacking airliners decades ago, something bad had to stop something worse. Or did you forget about 9/11?

    Something was done about Muslim hijackers after 9/11. They started locking the doors to the cockpit and (in some cases) arming the pilots and – most importantly – passengers on airplanes realized that………..Hijacking = Fiery Death……….and they started taking matters into their own hands.

    Problem solved.

    No TSA required.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  522. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Why were they interested in penetrating the DEA of all US gov agencies? What sort of national secrets does the DEA have that the Israeli government would want to know (and which would be against the interests of the American people for them to know)?

    First of all: Which American government secrets is it against the American people’s interests for a foreign power like Israel to know?

    Answer: All of them.

    Why were the bogus art students interested in penetrating the DEA? Maybe the Israeli government was involved in the Ecstasy business that was being run out of Israel.

    The Agony of the Ecstasy

    “The most commonly heard estimate is that Israeli criminals control no less than 75 percent of the Ecstasy market in the U.S. How did Israel become a central player in this dubious game?”

    https://www.haaretz.com/2004-09-14/ty-article/the-agony-of-the-ecstasy/0000017f-e383-d568-ad7f-f3ebe1a90000

    It’s not like governments are reticent about working with organized crime (e.g. the CIA and the Mafia).

    Or perhaps Israel sought to penetrate the DEA as an oblique way of obtaining access to NSA-derived information, as it seems likely that the DEA was getting surveillance information from the NSA:

    Is the DEA Using NSA Warrantless Surveillance Data in Domestic Drug Investigations?

    https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/is-the-dea-using-nsa-warrantless-surveillance-data-in-domestic-drug-investigations/

    And, as commenter “res” pointed out (and which you elided over), the DEA wasn’t the only agency the Israeli spy-ring known as “art students” was interested in.

    Why are all of these links 20 years old and there have been no further developments? This sounds to me like a lot of smoke but no real fire.

    Or that US Government law enforcement personnel got the message that it’s not good for their career to ask too many questions about Israeli intelligence operations. Just like they now know better than to publicly state what everybody knows – that Israel has nuclear weapons.

    I don’t doubt that the Israelis spy on friendly governments. The US sure as hell does.

    The US lacks the “moral high ground” to complain about our allies spying on us. Everyone spies on everybody.

    Interesting. So we went from “they were just art students” to “why would they be spying on the DEA?” to “Sure, Israel spies on us – of course they do – everyone spies on everyone. What’s the problem here?”

    In the US, it seems like we have more problems with the enemy within – Americans like Jack Teixeira and Bradley (“Chelsea”) Manning who release our top secrets without anyone even having to pay them.

    Or Jonathan Pollard. You forgot one there.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  523. @res

    The DEA, BNND, and the Federal Bureau of Narcotics were ostensibly law enforcement agencies. The FBN was a sister agency to the FBI. The BNND and the DEA really served one purpose in the 1960s thru to the 1990s: network maintenance for the CIA. CIA since its inception created narcotics trafficking networks for intelligence collection, talent pools — spies, killers — and sources of funding for off-the-books covert operations. Maybe the DEA was monitoring the Israeli ecstasy network and found a Mossad covert operation that would be linked to 9/11.

  524. @Mr. Anon

    Israel is dependent on the USA for its survival. The American governmental, institutional, and corporate landscape is riddled with Israeli operatives. Thus the love affair continues.

  525. @Jack D

    And they definitely do not want to increase female representation as sanitation workers. It works just as powerfully in reverse for all the dirty, dangerous jobs where men predominate overwhelmingly, but women generally are not beating down the doors to get a slice of the pie.

  526. @AKAHorace

    … polls showed the Liberals facing one of their worst defeats in history with the Tories easily getting a majority in Parlement. Now things have reversed …

    Oh, so the presumed Canadian shift ‘right’ was all shallow and fake. Good to know!

    Ed West said it best

    Horus, it could be Ed West is a bit a of squish. He should be for a MAGA takeover of Canada, given their fickle nature (some truckers and western provinces excluded).

  527. @Achmed E. Newman

    Trump has been doing a bang-up job on both issues, or at least whole-heartedly trying. What, do you all have your ears closed on this?

    AEN, Greta is a longtime subversive FUD concern troll. Below is some ‘don’t vote guys, nothing you do will matter’ near-election FUD from her first comments under her handle, in October 2020 (she reluctantly gave up years of posting as an “anon” after Ron made it harder for anons to comment).

    Her message to what she calls the “Diffident Right” (ironic projection, coming from a former ‘anon’ reluctantly taking a handle)—nothing matters, apathy is the only way, don’t bother, the Establishment always wins. Notice she never offers any solutions to problems…

    Greta Handel, October 2020:

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/2020/10/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=greta+handel

    When it comes to Washington politics, at this point you should be hopeless.

    Stop sitting in the front row of the Red v Blue puppet show, thinking that your vote does anything but keep it going. If you want things to improve, you need to get up and leave.

    Nah, politicians need new lies. Otherwise even those gullible enough to vote might figure out that it’s just a Red v Blue puppet show.

    Whatever the script, the important thing to remember is that it’s a puppet show. None of these Beltway creatures cares or even thinks about us as fellow Americans. We’re tax aphids and cannon fodder whose dissent need only be channeled and harmlessly blown off in each Most Important Election Ever.

    What we’re seeing again in real time is how easily most Americans are shepherded through Red and Blue doors to the same shearing room.

    Many decent, courageous, and otherwise insightful people still buy tickets to the Red v Blue puppet show, sitting still as each two-year act leads to the next Most Important Election Ever.

    The Establishment doesn’t care which color you pick, or why. All that’s needed is enough participatory assent to channel and harmlessly blow off the dissent.

    Etc., etc. into 2021 and beyond…

  528. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Thanks. I stand by every word.

    Noticeably, you’re now able to do your own research. Did some of these come from threads outside the HBD tree fort where you’ve been holed up from fear, uncertainty, and doubt?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  529. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    “Says the guy, like the jurist, who fails to understand the meaning of jurisdiction.”

    JFC, you’re an idiot. The Supreme Court had ruled that the Cherokee Nation was a distinct political entity with the right to govern its own people and land, and that Georgia’s laws could not be enforced on Cherokee territory.

    The executive branch is required to honor the decisions made by the judicial branch. Otherwise, the President is in direct violation of the rule of law.

    Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), member of the Senate Judiciary Committee: “I think you can dislike the court’s opinion and think they’re wrong on the substance, and criticize them for that, and you certainly can vigorously appeal. . . . I think outright, sort of just like, ‘Oh, we’re just going to completely ignore the decision?’ That, I think you can’t do. Andrew Jackson did that, infamously. He was wrong on that. That was the Trail of Tears. That was lawless. That was wrong.” Newsweek (February 11, 2025)

    Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA), member of the Senate Judiciary Committee: “I don’t agree with all the rulings. It’s often the case that I’ll disagree with an opinion that a court issues, but I don’t attack. I don’t attack, and I don’t intend to attack the legitimacy of the federal judiciary.” Bloomberg News (February 12, 2025)

    So, no, Trump cannot pull a Jackson and say he is able to legitimately and constitutionally refuse to abide by a Supreme Court ruling because he personally opposes it.

    • Replies: @Curle
  530. @Jack D

    I didn’t mean to suggest that you’re a narrow minded bigot, Jack.

    Your inferiors come in many colors, shapes, and sizes, don’t they?

  531. Corvinus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Somalians working for the TSA in Minneapolis, searching through private items and parts of White grannies and toddlers, cause, Freedom! Oh, they work out on the ramp too, with access to all kinds of compartments on planes. Feel safer yet?”

    Just wait until they plant something on you and you are arrested. Then you’ll have even more to bitch about!

  532. Ralph L says:
    @Jack D

    How do you add actual flavor to the stuff?

  533. @Mike Tre

    Fellas, we’re talking past each other.

    Whether Rumeysa Ozturk should have been

    i) here to begin with

    and

    ii) treated as she was for, as Marco Rubio crowed, what she wrote

    are distinct questions.

    If you disagree, please explain why.

  534. @Greta Handel

    You’re done here, twat.

    But if you want more deserved abuse from me, stick around the “tree fort”.

  535. @Greta Handel

    Better question, why are you

    here to begin with

    You must be a masochist. That’s okay, I like to indulge masochists. 🙂

  536. @Greta Handel

    Fellas, we’re talking past each other.

    You already tapped out upthread with a non-response Troll tag:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7069045

    You couldn’t explain why the feds shouldn’t arrest a lawbreaker; you could only vaguely bitch about the arrest optics, which to an anti-American foreigner like you would be concerning no doubt, hahaha.

    • Replies: @Hail
  537. BenKenobi says:
    @mc23

    Easter Sunday is on His birthday this year.
    HE IS RISEN

  538. @Ralph L

    GARLIC. What goes in hummus is a buttload of garlic.

  539. Hail says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    an anti-American foreigner like you

    What is Greta Handel’s nationality, birth-country of grandparents, ethnicity, mother-language, religious-affiliation/religious-ancestry?

    I’d assumed Greta Handel was an American of normal type.

  540. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    You blather but still fail to comprehend. The US has no jurisdiction. The US has no authority now over the deportee. Period. There is nothing the US can or will do and El Salvador won’t send him back. Should he ever find himself back under the jurisdiction of the US, then I suppose the US might . . . might make an effort to get him back in front of the face saving jurist. Don’t hold your breath moron.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  541. BenKenobi says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Fred Reed

    Huh. I forgot about that guy.

  542. @Mr. Anon

    “Or Jonathan Pollard. You forgot one there.”

    Pollard was paid. Although perhaps Israel didn’t have to pay him. But did so in order to increase their power over him.

  543. @Curle

    “…There is nothing the US can or will do …”

    I think there is a pretty good chance they could get him back if they wanted to.

  544. @Ralph L

    It’s very neutral and will work with any number of flavor profiles. There are even dessert hummusi with chocolate and the like. It works very well with Middle Eastern spice blends like Za’atar, Indian spices, various tapenades, hot peppers, etc. (I hasten to add that ‘hummusi’ is a fake and gay innovation and should not be taken as an actual word by you grammar/spelling/usage purist/falangists.)

  545. @Nicholas Stix

    ‘We have the next Eddie Murphy here, we just have to figure out how to play this’ …

    Was that supposed to be a compliment or an insult?

    You have to think like a producer. It’s not about compliment or insult. Eddie Murphy made his handlers a lot of money. Maybe Chappelle would too, if they could ” figure out how to play this”, i.e., “figure out how to get him to make money for us”.

    I don’t have any inside knowledge, but my impression is that the parties’ mutual wariness ultimately led to Chappelle moving forward with a much more home-grown “black supremacist” team and thus to his “intermittentness”, and also to his overall smaller box office than Murphy.

    Maybe Germ Theory can confirm.

  546. @Hail

    Thanks.

    Do we know Musk’s SAT?

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Poupon Marx
  547. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    Musk’s SAT

    Elon Musk, born 1971, took the [U.S.] SAT ca.1990 (I presume after arriving in North America in mid-1989; he entered Queen’s University in Ontario in 1990, later transferred to University of Pennsylvania).

    SAT results:
    – 670 verbal (around top-3%)
    – 730 math (around top-2%)

    The circa-130 IQ estimate, for Elon Musk, looks a safe bet.

    (His EQ, however, may leave something to be desired.)

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Ralph L
  548. Jack D says:
    @Ralph L

    It is all about the quality and quantity of the added ingredients- fresh lemon juice, garlic, Middle Eastern spices, etc. I like to top it with some smoked paprika and good olive oil. Sure if you use soybean oil and citric acid like the packaged stuff these cheap ingredients have no taste.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  549. Ralph L says:
    @Hail

    When I checked my 1977 scores on two different online converters last year, the IQs given were 4-6 points higher than my SAT/10. And not far from Musk on the right tail of the Bell Curve.

    • Replies: @Hail
  550. @Hail

    No assumption required.

    Jenner Ickham Errican #193: Tell us, what shithole country are you from?

    Greta Handel #204: I’m from yours.

    If you’ve the patience to poke down through the entire conversation, it’s clear that none of the details about Rumeysa Ozturk ultimately matter to him, either. JIE is cheering for ICE because he wants the government to protect him from upsetting information, just like Sailer used to do for him here.

    Some people are wired that way, I guess. Another who goes by Chrisnonymous just took to the publisher’s Bugs & Suggestions #3 thread to whine about the changes on this leftover blog site.

  551. @Almost Missouri

    “You have to think like a producer. It’s not about compliment or insult. Eddie Murphy made his handlers a lot of money.”

    That’s sort of the right idea. Personally I think Eddie Murphy was a great standup and sketch performer. His early movies were tiresome to people who don’t have a sweet tooth for sassy-cool-black-guy-talks-back-to-dumb-crackaz; but that’s a big enough audience to make a lot of hits. Eddie Murphy’s first hit movies were sort of centered around one or two “water-cooler moments” that sold the premise — things that people remember and can’t help repeating (Eddie in a jail cell singing along with “Roxanne” on a Walkman, or the line about “I’m a n!__er with a badge and a gun”.) Later on he got more ambitious as an actor, and less funny (I mean, “Boomerang”? really?)

    I didn’t really follow Chapelle’s career closely; while I could see the appeal of it, it just wasn’t a flavor I was personally interested in. All I know is that people tried a lot to develop a series for him but they never worked (back then all the money was in sitcom syndication, sketch shows were loss leaders). That happens to a lot of good comedians who can’t anchor a show because they aren’t a natural leading man, they’re supporting characters (Jason Alexander had the same problem). Or they might be really funny standups but have no acting or dramatic chops, so they can’t stay in character.

    For whatever reason, not every great comedian can be the center of a sitcom. One also gets the sneaking sense that Chapelle has a lot of crackpot ideas about race politics in his head, it could have made him difficult to work with in twenty different ways, but I don’t know. The American standard conception of a “conversation about race” is so sentimental, hysterical, and intellectually childish, and has so many stupid third rails and taboos, it’s easy to get annoyed. Martin Lawrence and Will Smith were both willing to set that stuff aside and just get with the program, and it made them huge. But Chapelle finally got a sketch show to work, and since it was not a ratings hit but a “brand” identity tent-pole show for Comedy Central, he was able to make a deal for a ton of money in sketch where you usually don’t. (Jim Carrey, Jennifer Lopez and Damon Wayans all got their start on In Living Color, but they made their careers off their own identity, not as the star of a sketch show.)

    Anyway I forget why we were talking about Chapelle in the first place.

    • LOL: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  552. @deep anonymous

    Birmingham (UK) city council was effectively bankrupted by an equal pay claim where the activist lawyers convinced the judge lawyers that, while there was no direct discrimination, refuse collectors (aka “dustmen”) were apparently doing the same job as school dinner cooks . Naturally this led to huge rises for the school dinner cooks.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66126558

    “Sally Maybury, a former admin assistant at the council, was one of 174 people who won the ruling at the Supreme Court more than a decade ago.

    The court found hundreds of mostly female employees working in roles such as teaching assistants, cleaners and catering staff missed out on bonuses which were given to staff in traditionally male-dominated roles such as refuse collectors and street cleaners.

    She previously told the BBC: “I felt undervalued and treated as if I was worthless.

    “It was very difficult, I was earning about £18,000, but as soon as I hit £22,000, there were no more incremental pay rises so my salary was kept quite low.

    “I remember one year, my tax credits went up, even though my salary didn’t – that’s just crazy.””

    And now the bankrupt council has to cut the dustmen’s wages. And they’re all on strike.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cdxgv0yy5ept

    Rats, fires and mountains of rubbish as Birmingham bin strike rumbles on

    It’s Monday lunchtime and the scene in some areas of Birmingham today is similar to what it has been since the middle of March – there’s rubbish everywhere.

    Although we are yet to hear from anyone official yet today, Birmingham City Council declared the amount of rubbish on the streets a major incident last week and we are expecting another round of talks between the council and the Unite union – who are representing striking refuse workers – to happen later today.

    As a reminder, the dispute centres around the council’s decision to remove Waste Recycling and Collection Officer (WRCO) roles, which the union says affects around 170 workers who would lost around £8,000 of pay as a result. The authority says claims that affected staff would lose an average of £8,000 per year were incorrect.

    • Thanks: deep anonymous
  553. Curle says:
    @James B. Shearer

    They won’t, they don’t need to and the law provides her no further course of action. The MS-13 member’s interest in staying in the US is negligible at best and he is now under the jurisdiction of another country where he is wanted for crimes and where he would have ended up anyway. They’ve no obligation to cough him up until he serves his sentence assuming he’s convicted and our interest in correcting this error is negligible by comparison. Her honor is just mad that administrative mistakes don’t always work to the benefit of the open borders crowd. If she pushes this further and seeks to sanction the Admin the higher courts will slap her down.

  554. guest007 says:
    @Jack D

    Since the SAT is a normalized test, making it “Easier” does not do anything for blacks since they were still have the same rank among all of the test takes. Making the test harder will spread out the top 1% of test takes but also create a larger lump of students in the middle. 90% of universities are interest in the group in the middle while very few universalities even compete for students in the top 1%

  555. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    I agree with you someone should not be arrested for writing an op-ed. I do not know all the details of the Ozturk case but if that was all she did I would not support her arrest and deportation.

    However, that is not the worst form of censorship in this country. In my army accounting job, I have been able to read about Ozturk and our excessively pro-Israel foreign policy on my federal government computer during breaks or before and after work at Lew Rockwell’s website. That website has never been blocked on my computer.

    The website that was blocked was the anti-immigration website Vdare. Not only was that blocked but the corrupt parasitic elites running this country made extreme efforts to drive it off the internet completely, eventually succeeding. This is the topic that leftists in power most want to silence discussion about. I would suggest those who are concerned about freedom of speech and press discuss this too. If you only talk about pro-Palestinian speech being suppressed it makes it appear you are just concerned about Palestinians, not freedom of speech and press.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Greta Handel
  556. Hail says: • Website
    @Mark G.

    Vdare

    the corrupt parasitic elites running this country made extreme efforts to drive it off the internet completely, eventually succeeding

    Mark, you and others may be interested to know that Peter Brimelow — the Friend of Steve Sailer, cast out of society last year, his VDare website destroyed by prosecutions — has washed up ashore, and taken refuge, on the following digital island:

    https://www.peterbrimelow.com

    _________

    Recent messages-in-bottle communications from Brimelow the castaway:

    – “Pat’s Protectionism Has Risen From Grave [Part 1]: I reassessed Free Trade in the light of Buchanan’s 1998 arguments–which have not gone away, by Peter Brimelow, April 4, 2025.

    – “Pat’s Protectionism Redux [Part 2]: The Geopolitical Case–Who will be inside the walls of Trump’s Fortress America?”,” , by Peter Brimelow, April 7, 2025.

    https://www.peterbrimelow.com/p/hmm-pats-protectionism-has-risen

    https://www.peterbrimelow.com/p/pats-protectionism-redux-2-the-political

  557. Mike Tre says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Not to mention that to date, the entire TSA and how ever many billions it has pissed away, has yet to actually be able to say they caught a single individual attempting a hijacking or sabotage.

    They arrest people who complain about getting their crotches fondled.

  558. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    Should pro Israeli activists be free to travel to Palestine, get on the dole, and write disparaging op eds about Palestine/Muslims/Hamas in their newspapers (if they have any)?

    If not, why not? Free speech is free speech, after all.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  559. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer, wading into the Shakespeare debate, says Richard Hanania‘s posturing against the Elizabethan playwright-poet is a true Decolonizing of Shakespeare:

    HOW TO DECOLONIZE SHAKESPEARE?

    If you are worried that Shakespeare contributes to White Supremacy, the Internet Right has produced your man.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 07, 2025

    _____________

    From Yahoo News:

    Shakespeare’s birthplace to be ‘decolonized’ after British researchers say his work enables ‘White supremacy’

    Alexander Hall

    Wed, March 19, 2025

    Yahoo is using AI to generate takeaways from this article. This means the info may not always match what’s in the article. Reporting mistakes helps us improve the experience.

    The organization overseeing museums celebrating English playwright William Shakespeare’s life is reportedly working to “decolonize” his legacy in the name of battling White supremacy.

    The Telegraph reported that Shakespeare’s Birthplace Trust, a British nonprofit in Stratford-upon-Avon, England, is working toward “decolonizing” its collection of Shakespeare-related artifacts to “create a more inclusive museum experience.”

    … The process of decolonizing Shakespeare’s work reportedly includes researching “the continued impact of colonialism” on world history and the ways in which “Shakespeare’s work has played a part in this.” The effort, which roughly means distancing work from western perspectives, reportedly began after concerns were raised that celebration of Shakespeare enables “White supremacy.”

    The trust has also warned that some items in its collections and archives relating to the iconic 16th century playwright may contain “language or depictions that are racist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise harmful.”

    Shakespeare’s Birthplace Trust reportedly worked on a research project with the University of Birmingham’s Dr. Helen Hopkins, and concluded that praise of Shakespeare as a “universal” genius “benefits the ideology of White European supremacy.” Their research concluded further that “colonial inculcation” spread European ideas about art and used Shakespeare as a symbol of “British cultural superiority” and “Anglo-cultural supremacy.”

    The folks who did the most to establish Shakespeare’s reputation as a universal genius comparable to Homer and Michelangelo were perhaps late 18th Century Germans, such as Goethe. Germans didn’t do a lot of colonizing, but I guess Goethe was a Nazis by descent. Or something.

    Celebrating Shakespeare’s work, the research argued, was part of a “White Anglo-centric, Eurocentric, and increasingly ‘West-centric’ worldviews that continue to do harm in the world today.”

    All over the world, theater kids love Shakespeare.

    One of the solutions proposed by the project is for the trust to “present Shakespeare not as the ‘greatest,’ but as ‘part of a community of equal and different writers and artists from around the world.’”

    My bride and I went to Stratford-Upon-Avon on July 4, 1987. It was 85 degrees F, which is about like 110 degrees in Palm Springs since not only haven’t the English invented air conditioning, but they hadn’t invented the concept of not nailing their windows shut to keep out cold drafts.

    So, we bailed out of visiting the Shakespeare tourist attractions and drove to the Cotswolds, where there was balloon race going on and hot air balloonists were dropping out of the sky all around us.

    Which I would strongly recommend.

    But, there wouldn’t be much reason to go to Stratford if Shakespeare were merely “part of a community of equal and different writers and artists from around the world.”

    The Telegraph also reported that the trust has worked to make Shakespeare’s legacy more international by organizing events like “celebrating Rabindranath Tagore, a Bengali poet, and a Romeo and Juliet-inspired Bollywood dance workshop.”

    It’s almost as if people all over the world like Shakespeare.

    But it drives intellectuals crazy that Shakespeare was better than them. For example, Richard Hanania contends:

    … I could copy Shakespeare’s style and produce something just as appealing …

    And yes, I’d be happy to test this theory myself. If someone wants to do this study with me, reach out.

    To prove it, Hanania emitted what he assumed was a Shakespeare-like rhyming doggerel, not realizing that Shakespeare’s greatest works are written in unrhymed iambic pentameter:

    Man so powerful yet so weak.
    Conqueror of stars yet farts and squeaks.
    Oh man! An ape we know it is true.
    Darwin has revealed me and you.
    Yet we go on, forward still.
    For if not us, then who will?

    Oh, dear.

    Most of Shakespeare’s greatest efforts were in unrhyming blank verse, but Shakespeare also wrote in prose, such as Hamlet’s stupendous prose soliloquy:

    I have of late, (but wherefore I know not) lost all my mirth, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed, it goes so heavily with my disposition; that this goodly frame the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy the air, look you, this brave o’er hanging firmament, this majestical roof, fretted with golden fire: why, it appeareth no other thing to me, than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. What a piece of work is a man, How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty, In form and moving how express and admirable, In action how like an Angel, In apprehension how like a god, The beauty of the world, The paragon of animals. And yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust?

    If you want to decolonize Shakespeare, Richard is your man.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/how-to-decolonize-shakespeare

    ___________

    I ask: What is Richard Hanania ‘s “game”?

    At what point did Richard Hanania evolve into a species of attention-troll, hot-takes, “Internet Right” guy (in Sailer’s words)? — What a shame; what a waste (says I).

  560. @Mark G.

    I agree with you someone should not be arrested for writing an op-ed. I do not know all the details of the Ozturk case but if that was all she did I would not support her arrest and deportation.

    You’re fooling no one except yourself — those are the material details. But rather than confirm them and demonstrate your purported principles, you deflect with But the other side’s worse!

    And, yes, I’m on record here at TUR under Mrs. Brimelow’s excellent essay against the squelching of VDare. But I also suggested that if the Diffident Right had stood taller about free speech in support of other dissidents, they might still be around. Do you want me to fetch that one for you, or can the Army spare the 90 seconds needed for you to find it yourself?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @kaganovitch
  561. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Anyway I forget why we were talking about Chapelle in the first place.” You brought him up! You said Hollywood (SNL?) insiders predicted he could be the next Eddie Murphy.

    Speak of the devil: During that same Tonight Show visit, Murphy recalled that when he was starting out on TV, Rodney Dangerfield said he’d never make it. Years later, Murphy’s king of the hill, and runs into Rodney in the men’s room somewhere (Vegas?). They’re both standing at the pissoirs, and Dangerfield cranes his neck towards Eddie, and says, in his inimitable way, “Who knew?”

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
  562. Hail says: • Website

    With Trump-II pushing towards
    its three-month mark, soon,
    I revisit a little prediction
    made in these pages
    late last year.
    Let’s see:

    The Germ Theory of Disease says:
    [October 29, 2024 at 12:19 am GMT • 5.3 months ago]

    News headline from second day of Trump II admin…

    TRUMP MAKES HISTORIC DEAL WITH CONGRESS: IMMIGRATION TO BOOST BY 30% IN EXCHANGE FOR INCREASED AID TO ISRAEL

    _________

    Assessment

    This semi-facetious prediction turned out to be right, in spirit, on both fronts.

    (1.) We may recall the pre-inauguration “declaration of war on White workers” by Vivek Ramaswamy and Musk. Their demand for millions of H1b coolies per year. How that plays out in “policy terms” by these people remains to be seen.

    (2.) Mr. Germ Theory was too tame in his prediction of a decided pro-Israel turn by these Trump-II people (above the highly-pro-Israel baseline by the Biden people). It’s turned out, so far, that that vaunted “immigration crackdown” by these Trump-II people has heavily focused on opponents of Israel!

    (3.) Then there is the appalling and nauseating Annex Gaza / Gaza Trump Resort / Slum-clearance expulsion of all Palestinians plan, and other things.

    (4.) Then, sticking to form, these Trump-II people a few weeks ago declared an open-ended, “bully’s war” against Yemen.

    They’re spending at a reported rate pf $50-million-a-day, daily for nearing four weeks now, to bomb Yemen. End-purpose, uncertain. It’s just too tempting for pro-Israel demagogues not to bomb Israel’s enemies. The Trump-II watchword is, and remains, “Israel’s wars are America’s wars.”

    BTW, the annualized rate to bully Yemen/”Houthis” and kill scores of its people per day — including brazen, IDF-style total takedowns of large civilian apartment buildings to supposedly get one “missile guy” — the annualized rate is up to ca. $20 billion/annum. About the right sum for a U.S.-Mexico border wall. (Hey, say! The border wall. I seem to remember talk of one. It’s strangely fallen out of the news…)

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  563. @Jack D

    No human should eat soybean oil.

    It is a known endocrine disruptor, and its uncontrolled widespread use in the food supply may be singlehandedly responsible for both the obesity crisis and mass trannyism.

  564. @Hail

    Who needs Sailer?

    Hail, Caesar!

  565. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    “can the army spare the 90 seconds needed to find it yourself”

    What a sneering response. You really know how to win friends and influence people. You have consistently been hostile and antagonistic towards me here even though I mostly agree with you and have been trying to be civil towards you. Your antagonism towards me and others here is driving away potential allies. You do not see that but I do. You and others like you are following a bad strategy and not helping the Palestinians keep from being killed by Israelis. I have said I oppose that multiple times and will not sneeringly suggest you look it up.

    You know, not everything is about you, Greta. You have a pretty big ego, don’t you? I do not know if you are a female but you certainly personalize things like a female. I did not say you should discuss the censorship of Vdare. I said those who support freedom of speech and press should discuss violations of it in the case of Vdare too, in addition to their pet Palestinian cause. I just engaged in a lengthy discussion with such a person here at this website that left me feeling angry at his pompous and condescending attitude towards me. I was thinking more about him than you.

    This subject of censorship goes for other topics too like the suppression of information about negative side effects of Covid vaccines, the Hunter Biden laptop story, cheating in the 2020 election, the truth about George Floyd and so on. It is not just the truth about Gaza that has been suppressed and we should not act as if that is the issue of existential importance.

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  566. Hail says: • Website
    @Ralph L

    I don’t know when exactly the “SAT (Verbal+Math)/10 = rough IQ” stopped being true. It was no longer true by 1990.

    As of the early 1990s, the SAT mean+2SD scores were:

    – Verbal: around 650
    – Math: around 725

    Elon Musk’s SAT scores, at about that time:

    – Verbal: 670
    – Math: 730

    So he was sitting slightly above the +2SD level, slightly higher in Verbal.

    If we peg the average test-taker ca.1990 to IQ=103, the straight-line conversion would give us IQ133 Math and IQ135/136 Verbal.

    There are three caveats I can think of, all of which potentially put downward pressure on that ca. IQ135 estimate:

    (1.) I’m uncertain as to whether Elon took the test multiple times, and/or “prepped” aggressively, what some call “gaming” the test. I don’t know how common either of things were ca.1990; but from what know of Elon he may well be the type to have done so way before Asians made it something more de rigueur;

    (2.) Elon was an English-native-speaking foreigner who arrived in North America the year he turned 18 and entered a university the next year, age 19. Given these factors, I presume Musk took this (U.S.-centric) test at a later age than usual for the huge bulk of ordinary U.S. students (age 17), possibly slightly boosting his score “by default”;

    (3.) High-scores on a test tend to mean “good test taker.” There have been many studies of the correlation between SAT-scores and formal-IQ tests. For higher scores, a downward correction is necessary for the aggregate. Not for every individual, of course, but statistically speaking a high-score on the SAT “overshoots” the same person’s formal-IQ. In other words, the SAT is correlated with IQ but is not an exact proxy for it. We have to apply error-bars to any of these conversions; with higher-end scores, the error-bars will be lopsided towards the lower side.

    These three factors in concert (where applicable) would tend to put modest “downward pressure” on the mid-130s IQ-estimate, derived from my proposed straight-line conversion. Certainly not enough to drop him to IQ110, though, as the one guy proposed.

    • Replies: @res
  567. @Jack D

    All of these are not admirable cultural traits. I like Americans open hearted nature better which is why I live here.

    Ok there it is gents. My fellow Americans, you best be keeping your “open hearted nature” going strong. else Jack D could be folding up his American loyalty and take his lawyering off to the land of the Sabras.

    You have been warned.

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  568. HA says:
    @Hail

    “At what point did Richard Hanania evolve into a species of attention-troll, hot-takes, “Internet Right” guy (in Sailer’s words)? “

    15 Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The Lord hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie. 16 Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth…

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
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  569. @Almost Missouri

    His CS score is quite high. CS = Common Sense

  570. @Hail

    I’d assumed Greta Handel was an American of normal type.

    You may have assumed wrong. Here’s Greta upthread:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7065922

    But because she [Ozturk] had the temerity to put her name to it, hails from a different country, and picked the wrong side, she’s being terrorized by your rulers [e.a.] while you cheer for them online.

    Revealing choice of words. Shouldn’t it be “our rulers” if Greta is American?

    Combined with her sympathy for “hails from a different country”, and wounded pique when I described the various third-worlders mentioned in Buzz’s post upthread as “ugly” and “dysgenic”, it appears Greta strongly identifies with such types, and is likely one herself. OTOH, she could be a Canadian AWFL or some such. [shudder]

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Adam Smith
  571. @Greta Handel

    … it’s clear that none of the details about Rumeysa Ozturk ultimately matter to him, either. JIE is cheering for ICE because he wants the government to protect him from upsetting information …

    It took you multiple requests from me to for you quote the arresting authorities you vaguely alluded to, and even then it was so traumatizing for you to do it that you finally put the quotes under a MORE tag, LOL. And yet you still refuse to address what they literally said. Surely if they’re wrong, it would be easy to refute.

    Why are you upset about that information? Does it destroy your argument?

    I’ll give you another chance: From the link you begrudgingly provided, what did Rubio and McLaughlin say that upset you? It’s easy to blockquote and refute, but apparently you’re scared to even attempt to refute that information…

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  572. @Mike Tre

    More conflating.

    You didn’t like it, but Rumeysa Ozturk was already here enrolled at Tufts. Her persecution only began after and because she and the campus newspaper crossed the Establishment’s line. Those are the material facts of the matter.

    Should pro Israeli activists be free to travel to Palestine, get on the dole, and write disparaging op eds about Palestine/Muslims/Hamas in their newspapers (if they have any)?

    Yes, subject to whim of that newspaper’s publisher.

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  573. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    More mendacity.

    Shouldn’t it be “our rulers” if Greta is American?

    That “your” was used to help distinguish our perspectives, but I’ll accept the editorial suggestion in the interest of clarification.

    Are we done again now?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  574. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Do you not even go back to read your own stuff?

    The quoted statements confirm the reason for her persecution, which you were playing dumb about above. I’m appalled by what they did and your endorsement of it, merely disgusted by what they said.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  575. @James B. Shearer

    If he was guilty of murdering several Salvadorans on Salvador soil there is an amount of money that could be paid to ransom him out of there. The State Department quietly bribes people all of the time.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  576. @Mark G.

    I do not know if you are a female but you certainly personalize things like a female.

    Which of us regularly whines about

    You have consistently been hostile and antagonistic towards me here even though I mostly agree with you and have been trying to be civil towards you.

    ? This isn’t supposed to be an elementary school cafeteria table.

    Perhaps I haven’t been blunt enough. You also regularly reference your job, which comes across to me as a man struggling with his complicity counting beans for Uncle Sam. That could explain the deflection dance around the tyranny inflicted on a graduate student for having the guts to speak up about it. And on that scale, your hurt feelings don’t even register.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  577. Moshe Def says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She sounds like a groyper, so her body, your choice, forever

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  578. @Hail

    Trump has launched a full-scale tariff offensive against China, imposing a 54% comprehensive tariff. This isn’t just about direct trade; it’s a global realignment. Trump’s new tariffs are sending shockwaves through financial markets and governments worldwide, but so far, only China has responded with retaliatory tariffs — a clear sign that the CCP is feeling the most pressure. The new tariffs target not only Chinese goods but also Southeast Asian countries serving as China’s backdoor. The U.S. has closed e-commerce loopholes and warned of even harsher penalties to come. The ripple effects are global — disrupting supply chains, shifting trade balances, and shaking political alliances. Today, we’ll break down what’s happening and why China’s economic and political stability is heading into uncharted territory.

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    , @epebble
  579. res says:
    @Hail

    Thanks, Hail. Some more details. You cover much of this, but this adds references and some more numbers.

    First, the SAT numbers come from Isaacson’s biography of Musk. At the start of chapter 7.

    Musk’s college-admissions test scores were not especially notable. On his second round of the SAT tests, he got a 670 out of 800 on his verbal exam and a 730 on math.

    Interesting spin which makes me wonder if Isaacson knows about the 1995 recentering (he was born in 1952 so he should). “Second round” probably warrants dropping the IQ estimate a bit from what we would think otherwise.

    So your caveat 1 is applicable. I expect 2 and 3 are as well.

    That said, I think there are some issues with your analysis.
    1. People who score +x SD on both subtests score higher than +x SD on the total (many people have a tilted score profile).
    2. Test takers are a selected population (i.e. population IQ is not the right baseline).

    Musk arrived in Canada in June 1989 and entered college in 1990. I am guessing he took the SAT summer/fall of 1989 when he would have just turned 18 (born 6/28/71).

    So that makes Dorans 2002 (the best reference I know for the pre-1995 SAT and the recentering) a good reference for this because it looks at the 1990 reference group.
    The Recentering of SAT Scales and Its Effects on Score Distributions and Score Interpretations SAT
    https://www.ets.org/research/policy_research_reports/publications/report/2002/hsfs.html

    Abstract
    These discrete scores were obtained for all students in the “1990 Reference Group” using 35 different editions of the SAT taken between October 1988 and June 1990. The performance of this “1990 Reference Group”on the original and recentered scales is described. The effects of recentering on scores of individuals and the “1990 Reference Group” are also examined. Finally, recentering did not occur solely on the basis of its technical merit. Issues associated with converting recentering from a possibility into a reality are discussed.

    Table 1 (also mentioned in a comment above) contains means and SDs for the subtests.
    Verbal mean 422 SD 112 making 670 be +2.21 SD (+2 SD 646)
    Math mean 475 SD 123 making 730 be +2.07 SD ( +2 SD 721)

    Those are basically the same as the numbers you gave. The problem is accounting for my issues above. Unfortunately, Doran’s did not include SDs for the combined scores.

    I can’t find 1989 era combined SDs (anyone?) so as a best guess I will scale similarly to what we see in 2017.
    https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d17/tables/dt17_226.40.asp
    SDs: total 195, verbal 100, math 107 so scale by total / (math + verbal) = 0.94
    That gives estimated total SD of (112 + 123) * 0.94 = 221

    Which gives (1400 – (422 + 475)) / 221 = 2.28 SD

    Using that for an estimate with your 103 baseline gives: (BTW, I am giving a digit more than I think significant to avoid rounding issues)
    103 + 2.28 * 15 = 137.2

    Alternative would be to find M and V correlation and calculate combined SD using this: Var(X+Y) = Var(X) + Var(Y) + 2 * Cov(X,Y)

    Now the question is what is an appropriate baseline. In 1989 a smaller percentage went to college and fewer states required the SAT of everyone. So the baseline should be something like “college aspiring seniors in 1989.”

    I’d guess something like 108 giving 142.2.

    This site estimates 144.6 for a pre-recentering 1400.
    https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/oldSATIQ.aspx

    Based on those numbers and the uncertainties involved along with your caveats I would say a fair estimate is in the 135-140 range. What does everyone think?

    This comparison of reference groups may speak to your caveat 2. I’m not sure how to interpret.

    Because the SAT is designed primarily for juniors and seniors, the 1990 Reference Group, as we have defined it, was a cleaner cohort for recentering score distributions. Because the 1990 Reference Group contains scores of seniors who last took the test in either May or June of their senior year, the average SAT scores for this group were slightly lower (approximately 1.5 points) than for the 1990 College-Bound Seniors Cohort. The 1990 cohort means were 424 for SAT V and 476 for SAT M. For the 1990 Reference Group, these means were 422 and 475.

    TLDR: I think the 130 estimate is conservative (likely to be low).

    P.S. One possibility which should be mentioned. Isaacson might have presented recentered equivalent scores. Seems unlikely to me, but would explain “not especially notable.” Would be good to confirm.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
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  580. Jack D says:
    @James B. Shearer

    Sure if the US threatened to nuke El Salvador they would give him back. The question is, does the judge have the authority to order POTUS do to this?

    If not, it goes like this:

    US – “The judge ordered us to ask for this man back, so we are asking you as we have been ordered to do.”

    El Salvador – “No.”

    US to Judge – “We asked for him back and El Salvador said no. This concludes the matter.”

    Look, the Left has been doing malicious compliance with things like laws against affirmative action for decades. The Left invented this whole playbook of abusing executive power because they couldn’t get things past Congress. So it should be no surprise when it gets turned against them.

  581. Jack D says:
    @emil nikola richard

    Yes, but they have to WANT TO. The Judge doesn’t have the authority to order the State Dept. to offer illegal bribes to a foreign power. The Judge wants him back. The State Dept. doesn’t. Maybe the Judge can offer a bribe from her personal funds?

    • Thanks: Curle
  582. @Greta Handel

    But I also suggested that if the Diffident Right had stood taller about free speech in support of other dissidents, they might still be around

    Indeed, if there is one constituency that Leticia James is eager to placate, it’s the dissident Right.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  583. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    “complicity counting beans for Uncle Sam”

    I am not an anarchist and think that having a military is a proper function of government. Do you really think everyone should stop working for the military and leave this country defenseless just to protest the treatment of Muslims? To be blunt, that is ridiculous.

    Instead of dialing down the hostility, you decided to ramp it up. Once again, I oppose this or any other kind of censorship. Do you understand, though, that there is a lot of hostility towards Muslims in this country so this is not solely a free speech issue. Many people here would want to round them up and send them home. They see Muslim immigrants in Europe raping women, engaging in knife attacks, grooming young girls for sex and going on welfare. They see the lack of freedom in Muslim countries. How many pro-Israel protests are there in Muslim countries, Greta? They see Muslims here voting for leftist Jill Stein for president and Muslim leftists like Ilhan Omar and my representative Andre Carson in Congress. Where are all the freedom loving Muslim politicians, Greta? The Cato Institute does a yearly ranking of countries by levels of freedom and most of the Muslim countries are pretty far down on the list.

    I agree with Achmed immigration and DEI are very important issues. I was discussing this same censorship issue with another pro-Palestinian type and he said he was not interested in “petty squabbles” about DEI. If people like that do not care about the concerns of us Americans, why should we care about their pet issue of Muslims being deported? As an American, I understand Americans and Muslims and their ardent supporters are not using the right strategy. Go ahead, though, and keep right on not listening and being hostile and condescending.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  584. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Shouldn’t it be “our rulers” if Greta is American?

    Not necessarily. Perhaps Greta does not recognize the legitimacy of the criminals masquerading as “our rulers” and prefers to distance himself from such association.(?)

  585. @Jack D

    The Jews don’t rule over the goyim in the West except in your anti-Semitic imagination.

    Shall we discuss the funding and composition of the Biden administration?

    Why would you say that we are currently discussing attacking Iran?

    What happens if you’re a student and you participate in demonstrations against Israel’s crimes?

  586. Hail says: • Website
    @Adam Smith

    I have a solution, which I believe will please all parties. A solution which will get to the bottom of the matter, elegantly and foolproofedly:

    [MORE]

    Have someone ask Greta Handel to come off to one side. Offer him some Freedom Fries, brochures for the Trump Gaza Mega-Resort, and videos of missile-strikes on Yemeni apartments interspersed with that Hulk Hogan pro-Trump speech.

    Then ask Mr. Handel this question:

    “Quick, what’s the capital of California?”

    If Greta Handel fails to say “San Francisco,” well, by gum, it’s settled. You’re dealing with an impostor! A bona-fide non-American! Possibly an infiltrator!

    If he starts arguing about the capital of California? The nearest masked DHS thug-squad might take interest. It would, naturally, have to be while they’re on break from their usual DHS duties: stalking anti-Israel protestors, scoping them out, swarming them, abducting them, “vanning” them, disappearing them.

    Example dialogue:

    “Hi, Homeland Security. I’ve got a character here who claimed to be a red-white-and-blue American. But failed to answer that the capital of California is San Francisco. Yeah, that’s right. When can you send over one of your teams?”

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  587. @Hail

    Thanks, Mr. Hail!

    These aren’t quite was I was looking for, but they’ll have to do for now as ChatGPT only does three of these a day on a free account…

    [MORE]

    Cheers!

    • Replies: @Hail
  588. @HA

    Heh! Done it before though: This John Derbyshire post:

    I am NOT the prophet of the Climate Calamity™. Do not follow idols and those who are not official Prophets of the Calamity™. Do not follow false prophets, such as Hananiah, mentioned in Jeremiah 28 – more on the false prophet Hanania here.

    + Here on iSteve. I too quoted Jeremiah 28 also, wondering,

    Is this the same guy? I haven’t been following his tweets, so I don’t know.”

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  589. @Mark G.

    How many pro-Israel protests are there in Muslim countries, Greta?

    That’s a genuinely stupid question when Israel, with the assistance of your employer, is killing Muslims right and left. Next.

    Where are all the freedom loving Muslim politicians, Greta?

    I doubt that they’re any of those, either.

    But your relentless whataboutism refutes nothing I’ve said.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @Mike Tre
  590. @Joe Stalin

    Thanks, Premier Joe. Everyone’s butt sore about the tariffs, cause Muh 401-k! It’s MORE than due time for the levying of these tariffs, both for retaliation against DECADES of unfair trade, but also to make an effort to get manufacturing going again in America. Don’t let the idiots drone on, Ben Stein-like, about Smoot-Hawley having caused the Great Depression.

    Please read Mr. Hail’s recent blog post with a whole Chapter of Alfred Eckes’ book on the topic and his commentary.

    Things like sending one’s manufacturing bas, and losing all that human and physical capital, overseas over 3 1/2 decades don’t get reversed without some financial pain. Being $37,000,000,000,000 in the hole, not counting unfunded obligations. doesn’t get reversed without a lot of financial pain.

    Then, you’ve got a guy that takes charge and makes an effort to reverse things, and all you hear is “No, I don’t really want that now. Let the country go to hell, because Sportsball & Unlimited free bread sticks!” Smoot Freaking Hawley, man!!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  591. @Hail

    It’s almost as if Wokeness is NOT actually going away cause it was just a fad, as Mr. Sailer told us. It might take “some people” to do something about it. Who will rid us of this turbulent Wokeness?

    And, agreed, why DOES Mr. Sailer call this Estimated Prophet Hananiah an “Internet Right” guy? He’s not Conservative and he’s not right.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Mike Tre
  592. @deep anonymous

    IIRC, someone on VDare (don’t recall if it was Brimelow, it could have been given his background in financial journalism) tried to estimate the dollar value of US citizenship. I believe their estimate was in the 6 figures.

    That was Randall Burns, the house “progressive”. I vaguely remember his figure being somewhere around $250,000, or roughly the cost of a modest house in large parts of the country.

    But note, this was for full citizenship. I’m sure simple permission for residency accounts for at least 90% of that value. After all, what, other than the vote, does citizenship get you? The right to own a radio station. (Ask Murdoch about that.)

    Another good idea of Burns’s was to jack up the minimum wage for potential immigrants several dollars above the standard one, sort of a tariff on imported-now-domestic labor. Hell, I would make it double or triple the regular wage. You get the right to offer to work for the lower wage once you fully naturalize, and not an overtime hour before.

  593. @Achmed E. Newman

    I heard Hanania say on a podcast the one time I listened to him say:

    the invention, manufacture, and distribution of the covid vaccine was the greatest achievement of the human race of the 21st century.

    I immediately concluded screw that guy. Apparently him and Anatoly Karlin have a twitter tag team act but I can’t remember anything about it except that it exists. Scott Alexander follows him. I do not believe Hanania is clever enough to have originated the above quote.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  594. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Israel, with the assistance of your employer, is killing Muslims right and left”

    And you think because of that everyone working for the military, including me, should quit working for them. If we do not, we are immoral. If everyone who works for the military quits, then the country will be defenseless against foreign attacks and the citizens unsafe. I pointed that out before and rather than responding you are changing the subject and engaging in evasion.

    Therefore, you are saying protesting keeping Muslims from being deported is more important than keeping Americans safe from foreign attacks. You are not going to get Americans on your side by acting as if Muslims are more important than them.

    I already told you this and you are engaging in evasion on that too. You and other supporters of the Palestinian cause need to show you care about your fellow Americans more than Palestinians and then they may be more open to listening to you. I told you that you are using the wrong strategy. You and other Palestinian supporters also need to stop portraying America as evil and Muslims as lovely wonderful people. With allies like you on their side, it hurts more than helps the Palestinian people. Do you understand that? No, of course you don’t!

    • LOL: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  595. Wow.

    This place depresses me.

    I just finished a great dinner with my loving wife: “Surf and Turf,” baked wild Chinook salmon and beef stewed in Coppola Cabernet. You know, it’s Alaska fishermen combined with The Godfather, LOL

    And I can’t even spell “HUMMUS!” I must be dumb!

    So, after dinner, I come here and find simply depressing arguments. Frankly, at this point, I can’t even tell why I care…

    Namaste, tard-fuckers.

    (Ooh, I’m “histrionic!” Don’t listen to me!)

    Efforts here to estimate Elon Musk’s IQ — by shit heads who can’t shine his fucking shoes! Can you guys honestly even see how ridiculous you are? Has any one of you accomplished even a tiny fraction of what that man has?

    And on and on…

    You all are the fucking peanut gallery.

  596. Corvinus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Everyone’s butt sore about the tariffs, cause Muh 401-k”

    Damn straight, because capitalists tell us that is the way to go to save for one’s future. Besides, Trump’s tariff policy is per usual misguided.

    https://prospect.org/power/trump-bull-china-policy-shop/

    Meanwhile….

    — What is surprising is that the plaintiff in this particular case, known as Emily Ley Paper v. Trump, is represented by the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA), a right-wing legal shop that previously backed Trump’s efforts to expand executive power.

    NCLA is part of what appears to be a growing effort among prominent right-leaning intellectuals and commentators to challenge Trump’s tariffs.

    At the Volokh Conspiracy, an influential right-libertarian legal blog, George Mason law professor Ilya Somin is actively recruiting plaintiffs to file a similar lawsuit challenging the tariffs (Somin has long been a principled libertarian critic of Trump).

    Ben Shapiro, the one-time Breitbart writer who is also a lawyer, criticized Trump’s tariffs as a “massive tax increase on American consumers,” and has gently advocated for Trump to change course. Richard Hanania, a writer best known for his baroque criticisms of “wokeness,” responded to a pro-Trump member of Congress’ praise of the tariffs with “we’re ruled by morons.”—

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  597. @Mark G.

    “Israel, with the assistance of your employer, is killing Muslims right and left”

    And you think because of that everyone working for the military, including me, should quit working for them.

    Well, I would. But what I said to you was

    You also regularly reference your job, which comes across to me as a man struggling with his complicity counting beans for Uncle Sam. That could explain the deflection dance around the tyranny inflicted on a graduate student for having the guts to speak up about it. And on that scale, your hurt feelings don’t even register.

    Your job, your choice. But I’m not going to thank you for your service, especially when you’re sniveling to rationalize the violation of free speech rights of a woman trying to save the lives of Uncle Sam’s victims.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  598. Mike Tre says:
    @Hail

    However long ago it was that this obvious troll gained a bit of attention in the online political realm, I knew immediately that he was full of shit and not to be trusted. How did I know, you may ask. Simply by his stupid name: Hanania.

    Nobody with that name is on my side about anything important.

    I wonder if Sailer would be OK with Shakespeare getting retconned as long as it was determined an ancestor of Denzel Washington was the real Bill?

    • Replies: @Hail
  599. J.Ross says:

    Boasberg smacked down.
    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-849274
    See! Cavemen fighting!
    See! The mockingbird media signal a very slight change of party line on immigration!
    See! Paul Krugman call himself naïve!
    https://archive.is/xg2BU

    • Replies: @res
  600. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    “More conflating.”

    Your non answer is an answer in itself.

    “You didn’t like it, but Rumeysa Ozturk was already here enrolled at Tufts. ”

    I know you don’t like it, but old girl should have never been in the country to begin with. She isn’t fit for the West, and is simply another entitled, midwit grifter. Not to mention she took a spot from a more qualified white US student.

    Why do you like non whites more than whites? Why do you want your country overrun by brown people?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  601. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    There’s nothing to refute. Your brown pets have no leg to stand on and can be deported. Period.

    You’re the one whining about it like a woman. But in nearly every one of your posts you whine about Sailer “whimming” a comment you made 3 years ago:

    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
  602. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Well, I would.”

    Well, then you apparently think it is the proper thing to do. Once again, though, if everyone working for the military quit then the country would be undefended from a potential foreign attack and its citizens made unsafe.

    I am sorry but we in the military are not going to all quit and make Americans unsafe in order to protest Muslims being deported. Also, once again, Americans are not going to take the side of someone like you who cares more about Muslims being deported than their continued safety.

    I am for a noninterventionist foreign policy which would lead to, among other things, not providing military assistance to Israel to help it kill Palestinians. This is not because I care about Palestinians. Palestinians and Muslims in general do not share my libertarian beliefs. I care about American taxpayers. A noninterventionist foreign policy would not require such a large military so we could shrink it and save taxpayers money. I am already saving taxpayers money. I am almost 69. By working well past my retirement age, the government does not need to pay both for my pension and the cost of a replacement worker for me.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  603. @Buzz Mohawk

    “a great dinner with my loving wife: “Surf and Turf,” baked wild Chinook salmon and beef stewed in Coppola Cabernet.”

    Just for you, you almost-likeable drunk-hedonistic-self-regarding Boomer….

    A long while back I got invited up to Coppola’s vineyard in I think Napa (maybe Sonoma? not sure) to have lunch with the Great Man. Never been to an actual vineyard before. When we got there, surprise, Francis had to suddenly cancel, so instead we were treated to a tour of the grounds. Got to see the garage where he keeps his Tuckers (and actually sat in one).

    But the real treat was a visit to his personal library: a converted old carriage house (or maybe a very fancy barn? again not sure, but multi-level) that had all his books and research materials. As luck would have it, I put my elbow on a shelf and bumped into something: I picked it up, and it was his dog-eared spine-cracked old paperback copy of Puzo’s original “Godfather,” with all his margin notes and underlinings and exclamation points and everything! It was just laying around, and not in a case in the Smithsonian.

    He seems to leave a lot of things just laying around, he left reels of film from “Dracula” just sitting on a counter in his kitchen in LA.

    Nice work if you can get it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  604. Is it me or is fertility becoming increasingly eugenic?

    I may be wrong, but it seems that fertility rates are now roughly comparable by economic class. That’s likely a response to the increased cost of living, in addition to rapidly collapsing teen fertility.

    https://twitter.com/StatisticUrban/status/1908970628117610586

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  605. Ralph L says:
    @res

    That was one of the conversion sites I looked at. The Internet wouldn’t lie to us to stroke our egos, would it?

    If Musk were a politician, Isaacson should have asked for documentation before publishing, but I believe Musk is in the 1% in more ways than one, and I’m not.

    • Replies: @res
  606. @Mike Tre

    We seem to be running in circles.

    Greta Handel (#546):

    Whether Rumeysa Ozturk should have been

    i) here to begin with

    and

    ii) treated as she was for, as Marco Rubio crowed, what she wrote

    are distinct questions.

    You and others want to focus on the first, while I want to discuss the second. This is why we’re talking past each other.

    Your two questions at the end are ridiculous and adolescent. I support free speech for all.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  607. @JohnnyWalker123

    Maybe, but

    1) while the extreme lefthand tail (poor) has dropped 0.3, the extreme righthand tail (rich) has dropped 0.35, or about 1/6 more than the poors., but

    2) a more serious quibble is that though the chart gives each category equal weight, in reality there are far more people in the lefthand categories than in the righthand categories, so despite the affluent outperformance, their numbers are relatively minuscule.

    To know what were looking at society-wise, the graph should be by population quintiles or deciles or similar. Were it so, I suspect the entire righthand half of the graph would be compressed into a single mildly well performing category, while the lefthand “under 20K” category would remain in its weighty overproduction.

  608. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Your two questions at the end are ridiculous and adolescent.”

    That’s the answer a non white would give. Those questions are fundamental to the survival of Western Civilization.

    “while I want to discuss the second.”

    There is nothing to discuss. Neither the Constitution nor the 1A grant rights to foreigners to come to the US and agitate on behalf of foreign nations. It’s mentally retarded to even suggest it. You clearly don’t believe any other country should allow it (as indicated by your non answers).

    Like, I should be able to get a student Visa to China and get on Chinese welfare and write screeds about hostilities between N Korea and S Korea and how China is complicit… without consequence? LOL You’re the adolescent here, pal. Accusing people of “bigotry” is just like the negroes that shout racist! because they have no argument.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  609. @Mark G.

    But enough about you and national defense.

    Please state your position on what the government has done to Rumeysa Ozturk.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @Mike Tre
  610. William Kirk discusses the news that broke today that DO and ATF will recall the “zero tolerance” rule implemented under the Biden administration which has resulted in the revocation of more FFLs than in any other period in Amerian history.

    William Kirk discusses what can be derived from today’s list and some other huge developments that have occurred today related to your Second Amendment Rights.

    The ATF just made a major change to one of its most controversial long standing policies.
    https://www.ammoland.com/2025/04/atfs-war-on-gun-stores-ends-zero-tolerance-policy-repealed/

    The Trump Tariff has been widely misunderstood by both the left and the right.

    https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/status/1909391382202269923
    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1908504930215698933

  611. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    You were always going to twist this. If I had said Americans were narrow minded and bigoted you wouldn’t have liked that either.

    I’m glad that Christians and Jews live together peacefully in my country (that being the USA) but apparently you’re not so happy about the Jew part.

  612. muggles says:
    @Greta Handel

    Desiccated deflection. Just come out and say that you’re fine with what’s happening.

    Your alliteration isn’t an argument, much less a coherent reply.

    A claim was made about some kind of “censorship” by Trump or the GOP right but zero details of that were cited.

    Rhetorically, I asked if he meant the numerous instances of Woke/left deplatforming, firing, non-hiring, etc. of anyone who took issue with Woke.

    I gave examples (commonly known) of Woke censorship, one sided news, etc.

    He (and you) thus far hasn’t cited any instance of Trump or “rightwing” censorship, etc.

    This nonresponse to my challenge is in no way being “happy with what’s happening” since I still don’t know what that is supposed to be, happening.

    I don’t support any suppression of ideas by any “side” unless it is calling for violence or harm to others.

    That isn’t the case with Wokies and their political enablers.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  613. @Greta Handel

    That “your” was used to help distinguish our perspectives

    Exactly. You have a foreign, anti-American perspective.

    Are we done again now?

    You sound exhausted. Bit off more than you can chew?

  614. @Greta Handel

    I’m appalled by what they did and your endorsement of it

    Ain’t no brakes on the Trump Train, toots

  615. muggles says:
    @Colin Wright

    Fuck you. People hate Israel because it’s evil.

    This is level of discourse you bring here.

    Even worse than Corvy, most of the time.

    I don’t think Israelis ram cars into crowds in Germany or shoot/blow up groups of civililans on the streets there and sometimes in the US.

    Do they hijack airlines and crash them into city buildings? They never did that even in hostile Arab nations.

    Fortunately very few Muslims are insane terrorists. But far more than “evil” Israelis.

    Culturally they are among the most retrograde groups on the planet, BTW.

    Why do you “hate” Israelis, “Colin” or Achmed or Salim or whatever it really is?

    Did a smarter Jewish kid keep you out of Medical School? Ha!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  616. @Moshe Def

    her body, your choice, forever

    She’s pretty feisty. Could be hot, even. 👀

    Um, Greta, what if we kissed… on the roof of the HBD tree fort? 😘

    • LOL: Mike Tre
  617. muggles says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She has a common disease in this kind of discourse.

    Cynicism masquerading as wisdom.

    A lot of righties have that too. “Greta” I don’t know what swamp she’s from.

    “She”…

    This kind of “argument” is intellectually a cop-out and is usually done to clog the discourse with hopelessness/helplessness.

    “Go home and watch TV”. Etc.

    I suspect many are Chinese being paid to do this. Though I see some similar stuff on rightwing sites where cynicism is worn like a shield against rational argumentation and logic. “Things aren’t now perfect so everyone is corrupt.” etc.

  618. @Mike Tre

    Sailer “whimming”

    I’m starting to miss the whimming.

  619. @muggles

    He (and you) thus far hasn’t cited any instance of Trump or “rightwing” censorship, etc.

    This nonresponse to my challenge is in no way being “happy with what’s happening” since I still don’t know what that is supposed to be, happening.

    Is the filmed ICE seizure of a woman off the street for writing an op-ed in her school’s newspaper critical of its position on Israel’s destruction of Gaza, and the circulation of that video by the State Department via social media, not an “instance of Trump or ‘rightwing’ censorship, etc.”?

    • Replies: @muggles
  620. @Corvinus

    NCLA is part of what appears to be a growing effort among prominent right-leaning intellectuals and commentators to challenge Trump’s tariffs.

    I’m so old I can still remember you citing the abandonment of Trump by the all-important Nick Fuentes demographic as the reason he won’t win the election.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  621. @Adam Smith

    Not necessarily. Perhaps Greta does not recognize the legitimacy of the criminals masquerading as “our rulers” and prefers to distance himself from such association.(?)

    Your question mark is prudent, Mr. Smith: “Rulers” (the plural noun) is value-neutral. Greta is admitting American rulers are different entities than her rulers.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  622. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You all are the fucking peanut gallery.

    and

    This place depresses me.

    After bragging here about your wonderful dinner, life, etc. you come and say this here?

    Tired of defending Hamas are you? (I’m tired of them too, btw).

    You are unique here, lately anyway, in bragging about your personal life and yet come here to comment, sometimes lucidly, but then dismiss us all as inferiors.

    “Sitting in his multistory log cabin in the mountains, eating off golden plates. Yet, ennui has set in again. He glances at his laptop. So tempting. She, the apple of his eye, beautiful, ignores him and searches instead for some fun streaming. He then pops open the laptop, finds the saved icon, and taps to quietly go in. Those silly fools, why do I bother, yet, again…”

  623. epebble says:
    @Joe Stalin

    China says it will ‘fight to the end’ after Trump threatens 50% additional tariffs

    “Since China already faces more than 60% in tariff rate, it doesn’t really matter if it goes up by 50% or 500%,” said Tianchen Xu, senior economist at the Economist Intelligence Unit, suggesting Beijing is prepared for a “full on” trade war with the U.S.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/china-resolutely-opposes-trumps-50percent-tariff-threat-vows-retaliation.html

    If this comes to pass, we may see March 2020 type losses for an extended period coupled with shortages of imported and import dependent goods.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    , @Joe Stalin
  624. muggles says:
    @Greta Handel

    is the filmed ICE seizure of a woman off the street

    No.

    Once again, drama but no actual facts. So what if it was “filmed” or “she was taken off the street’?

    Mere window dressing. Arrests aren’t fun.

    I therefore must speculate that you are referring to some Green Card holder foreigner, maybe a low tier academic or grad student, who may have penned a pro Hamas editorial or something.

    The State Department (not “right-wingers/conservatives”) have deemed Hamas a foreign terror group since some of the people it killed and kidnapped in Israel are American citizens. The State Department has a policy, now, of revoking public advocates of terrorist organizations from US residence via Green Card.

    This the best you got? As I have previously posted here, no foreign country would act differently for a visa holder foreigner who was similarly publicly cheerleading for some group it deemed a foreign terrorist group. No Arab state and probably no EU state would hesitate to boot them out. Arrested and beaten first, in Muslimland.

    Most of those won’t let their own citizens do that. When you are a guest, you shouldn’t preach about how much his neighbor hates the host for good and proper reasons.

    Or maybe you are that kind of guest…

  625. res says:
    @Ralph L

    That was one of the conversion sites I looked at. The Internet wouldn’t lie to us to stroke our egos, would it?

    A worthwhile concern. Mensa qualifying threshold (supposed to be 98th percentile or about IQ 130) for the 1990 era SAT is 1250. That conversion site gives IQ 130.03 for SAT 1250. I think that provides some validation. Mensa cares about getting those thresholds right.
    https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/

    If Musk were a politician, Isaacson should have asked for documentation before publishing, but I believe Musk is in the 1% in more ways than one, and I’m not.

    True, but I would think a tech guy attempting to brag would aim higher. Easy to believe those numbers given his subsequent achievements IMO. I am curious about what he scored on his first attempt.

    More on IQ and SAT here.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/chetty-on-college-admissions/#comment-6085679

    • Replies: @Ralph L
  626. res says:
    @J.Ross

    Boasberg smacked down.

    5-4 with Barrett joining the usual suspects in the dissent (which is most of the text).
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf

    More here.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-trump-deportations-alleged-venezuelan-gang-members/

    Thanks for the Krugman bit.

  627. Ralph L says:
    @epebble

    I’m beginning to suspect that China was always Trump’s primary target with the tariffs, and rightly so. The other countries were included as a smoke screen and for leverage to prevent China from passing goods through them.

    • Replies: @epebble
  628. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer says a tv-show called White Lotus (he calls it a not-very-Woke black-comedy, 2021-, HBO) gives a Sailerian rendering of what Trans-men are like:

    “WHITE LOTUS” DARES TO GO THERE

    Mike White’s fine HBO Max streaming series exposes the long-covered up reality of autogynephilia that has covertly driven so much transmania over the last 12 years.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 08, 2025

    _______________

    Now finishing its third season, Mike White’s ensemble TV series The White Lotus has been a rightful succès d’estime: a high quality, not very woke black comedy about rich people at lovely seaside resorts.

    Not surprisingly, it gets blanket coverage in the prestige press. For instance, today, following the weekend’s season finale, the front page of NYTimes[-dot-com] links to articles about The White Lotus ten times.

    But, the NYT refuses to mention a certain forbidden word to characterize Season 3’s most famous monolog. A few weeks ago, the outstanding actor Sam Rockwell (Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Moon, Three Billboards, George W. Bush in Vice) makes a surprise appearance as an old friend of resort guest Walton Goggins, who is in need of a gun for some no doubt nefarious purpose.

    Rockwell has retired to Thailand, presumably from one of those jobs that exist far more in movies than in real life, such as High-Priced Hitman.

    In a definitely not safe for work monolog (and you may well wish to avoid watching it altogether), Rockwell explains to his old friend, the increasingly goggle-eyed Goggins, that after awhile Thailand’s abundance of cheap whores began to lead his sexual fetishes in new directions:

    Mike White has constructed for Rockwell an over-the-top portrayal of a stereotypical autogynephilic ex-man — intelligent, self-centered, sex-crazed, and ruthless — which is fairly novel in America media during the ongoing World War T. In other words, a lot of ex-men tend to be exemplars of Toxic Masculinity at its nastiest, but nobody who is anybody has dared mention that to you since the Trans push got going in 2013.

    After all, the Trans are, as we all know, the Good People, and skeptics about them are therefore the Bad People.

    Even though a large fraction of the most aggressive trans activists suffer from the autogynephilia fetish, the media over the last dozen years of transmania has kept hidden the entire concept of AGP from moody teenage girls, the main victims of trans social contagion.

    [Paywall.]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/white-lotus-dares-to-go-there

  629. Ralph L says:
    @res

    Steve’s substack on Musk says the 1988 SAT average for college-bound seniors was 904, which seems awfully low to me. Did that many kids on the Left Slope take the test? How many did and didn’t actually go to college because of low scores? I can’t remember when College for Everyone took over.

    Before WW2, you’d think just about everyone going to college would have a triple digit IQ, and the bell curve of test-takers might not be terribly symmetrical.

    • Replies: @res
  630. Hail says: • Website
    @Mike Tre

    Between about late-2008 and mid-2012, Richard Hanania was ingratiating himself with the Sailersphere blog-world, writing under the name “Richard Hoste.” The Hoste persona was assumed to be a typical NW-European-type American. The real Hanania was born August 1985, of Middle-Eastern origin, raised in the USA (but am uncertain if he was born on U.S. soil or if arrived at a very-young age).

    As Richard Hoste published good-but-blandly-inoffensive articles appealing to the Sailer-reading crowd, and similar people, at the time. As Richard Hoste, he got many pats on the head. He makes a number of appearances in the comments section back in the Sailer blogspot days. Then he disappeared for a few years.

    By mid-2015, Hanania was with the “Columbia University Arnold A. Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies.”

    By 2020, he had surfaced, now writing under his own name, with political commentary. At first he entered the scene as “expert who speaks out against Wokeness.” His career in the 2020s soon became entirely about Hot Takes Internet-Guy stuff. What people have called the outrage-economy, or at least the broader attention-economy, drive him on.

    I still don’t know what Richard Hanania’s “game” is. His act evolved in the 2020s, after his re-emergence, by 2022 or so, to be this:

    Wokeness is a problem. No, wait, the bigger problem is right-wing White idiots. They represent the problem of Low Human Capital. They should be mocked and marginalized if we want to save America from Wokeness.

    The only solution is to allow Elite Human Capital, like me, to run things. Keep the illegals; let in more Elite H1Bs to help contain the scourge of Low Human Capital from these bozos out there with a few too many generations in the USA.

    Friends, the way to defeat Wokeness is to contain Whites first. We can manage a non-Woke multi-racial paradise. If necessary, we can establish a dictatorship led by Elite Human Capital. Trust me.

    He is married to a Korean woman of middling type. By appearances, the wife is of the inoffensive “grind” type, with roots in the USA shallower even than his own. The woman is associated with an elite California university but not in any elite position. The arrangement matches up with his newfound political posture and views on the USA and what it is, what it should be.

    ____________

    The Hanania act reminds me a lot of Mike Benz, a man widely seen as a Mossad asset.

    Mike Benz is suspiciously well-connected, and pops up all over the place, but starts out of nowhere. He was first seriously promoted by Tucker Carlson, I think. He manipulated Tucker in the usual way people like Benz do.

    Benz had spent about three years in the persona of “Frame Games” in the late 2010s. He disappeared, and, about three years later, reemerged as a somehow-instantly-accepted “authority on Internet censorship.” He said the “Frame Games” persona had been an “op” to try to turn the Alt-Right away from anti-Semitism, a counter-radicalization project, and that he was a proud Jew (possibly a dual-citizen with Israel).

    Mike Benz is more disciplined in his act than Hanania; but I see a wide area in the center of their “Venn diagram.”

  631. epebble says:
    @Ralph L

    But how does that explain extremely hostile treatment of Canada and Western Europe? They have not been used as a cat’s paw by China. Besides, an explicitly China targeted action would have had much higher political support, both domestically and internationally. Now, we have become the target of international scorn and China appears as the new world leader upholding free trade.

    Mark Spitznagel is a very smart investor who makes a killing in Black Swan events.

    The stock market will go down 80% ‘when this is over,’ says bearish investor Mark Spitznagel​
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-will-go-down-80-when-this-is-over-says-bearish-investor-mark-spitznagel-692f56df

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  632. @Jack D

    “I’m glad that Christians and Jews live together peacefully in my country (that being the USA)”

    What on earth are you talking about?! Peacefully my arse. Every minute of every day of every week, American Jews and their overseas Jewish allies are waging non-stop underhanded covert war against white American Christians, on every front imaginable, in a century-old mad project to eradicate the historic American nation (and largely succeeding too); and Christians simply refuse or decline to acknowledge unalloyed Jewish genocidal hostility and Jewish genocidal WAR, and somehow refuse or decline to fight back. We’ll see if that attitude holds.

    You’re a f#cking monster. (BIRM)

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  633. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Peter Brimelow endorses a (sensibly implemented and managed) protectionist-tariff regime. He puts protectionism, however, in an absolutely subordinate position to immigration-restrictionism.

    Meanwhile, Steve Sailer has declined to comment (?) in 2025 on the tariff controversy.

  634. Hail says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Has Peak Stupidity has been blasted off the Internet?

    THIS SITE CAN’T BE REACHED.

  635. @Hail

    I was a late convert to The White Lotus: I mean gee whiz, a bunch of deeply unlikeable rich people being mean to each other in expensive Tropical Paradise. Yawn. “Billions” with shorts and sandals.

    But I have to admit, it’s generally rather well done, for all that. I mean… well-produced. Watchable.

    But the Rockwell monologue I’m sorry was just terrible in a “quite mad” kind of way. But not the interesting James Schuyler kind of mad, just the stupid cardboard box homeless-guy kind. It seemed utterly contrived (and rather dramaturgically pointless), and bore little or no relation to either meaningful human behavior or a useable human metaphysics, which latter is really the underlying purpose of any serious art. Like the shallow tedious Buddhist preacher, it is a dreary high-school philosophy masquerading as something profound. You see through it in a minute. Actually that whole unfunny Inigo Montoya story line is probably the most unappealing thing in the series.

    Back when he did School of Rock, at least Mike White was funny, and seemed to know his subject.

    Meanwhile even Yellowjackets appears to have gone clean off the rails. This culture is toast.

    Oh well. At least we’ve still got Billie.

  636. Hail says: • Website
    @Adam Smith

    Interesting:

    Well, here we are.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  637. SafeNow says:

    Buzz, thank you for posting your personal menu. I always enjoy these. Sometimes I even get inspired to upgrade my own menu. Mainly I am too lazy, but I still enjoy a great meal vicariously.

    More broadly,I usually enjoy the various personal anecdotes that I read here. This is, to me, a University and Pub, and so I say let’s not forget the “pub” part.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  638. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Please state your position on what the government has already done to Rumeysa Ozturk.”

    I already told you in this very comment thread. I said the following: “I agree with you someone should not be arrested for writing an op-ed. I do not know all the details of the Ozturk case but if that was all she did I would not support her deportation.”

    You are demanding I spend time repeating what I already told you because you want to change the subject and continue to engage in evasion. You are doing that because you are a dishonest person of low moral character.

    Once again, you think people should quit the military, leaving American citizens unsafe from foreign attacks, in order to protest the deportations of Muslims here. You care more about Muslims than Americans. Americans are not going to take the side of people like you. Once again, you are using the wrong strategy and are hurting the Palestinian cause more than helping it.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  639. @muggles

    I therefore must speculate that you are referring to some Green Card holder foreigner, maybe a low tier academic or grad student, who may have penned a pro Hamas editorial or something.

    No need to speculate about Rumeysa Ozturk, who at this point here I’d assumed serious participants were familiar with. The op-ed she co-authored last year and other facts have already been provided upthread for others who didn’t know what they were talking about. So if you want to show us the “publicly cheerleading [for] Hamas” words that justify what was done to her, we can proceed to discuss that. (I’m done playing fetch for now, especially with several conversations going and a three-per-hour comment limit.)

    But no sincere advocate of free speech should brush off how her arrest was conducted and is being used by the government as a warning to others, including native born American citizens. Recall how under Biden the DOJ used a FARA variant of Russiagate against an old anti-war socialist. Would it cost the whiteshirts a wink of sleep or drop of sweat to bring charges against anyone else who wrote, encouraged, or disseminated the Ozturk op-ed, or even objected to what’s been done to her months later?

    The Establishment is blowing up innocents abroad and waging war on dissent at home. Things are now being said and done that, when foreseen by skeptics, Trump supporters laughed off. The joke’s on all of us, and it’s not funny.

  640. @Hail

    I’m pleased Steve watches these shows which are in all the media* for two months, so I don’t have to yet can still have a vague idea of what they’re about.

    * in the UK before White Lotus was Adolescence, and before that something called The Traitors – and remarkably there’s almost as much in the Guardian as in the Daily Mail about them.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/apr/07/the-white-lotus-season-three-finale-review-the-shows-least-satisfying-ending-ever

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tv/article-14579267/White-Lotus-fans-season-three-clues-death.html

  641. @muggles

    “The State Department (not “right-wingers/conservatives”) have deemed Hamas a foreign terror group since some of the people it killed and kidnapped in Israel are American citizens. “

    “Brits” in Israel are returning the favour, but I’m pretty sure Israel isn’t calling them a foreign terror group.

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza

    A war crimes complaint against 10 Britons who served with the Israeli military in Gaza is to be submitted to the Met police by one of the UK’s leading human rights lawyers.

    Michael Mansfield KC is one of a group of lawyers who will on Monday hand in a 240-page dossier to Scotland Yard’s war crimes unit alleging targeted killing of civilians and aid workers, including by sniper fire, and indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas, including hospitals.

    The report, which has been prepared by a team of UK lawyers and researchers in The Hague, also accuses suspects of coordinated attacks on protected sites including historic monuments and religious sites, and forced transfer and displacement of civilians.

    I wonder how many Jewish Brits ate serving in the Israeli forces compared with the number in the British forces?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  642. Mike Tre says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “It’s almost as if Wokeness is NOT actually going away cause it was just a fad, as Mr. Sailer told us. ”

    Wokeness has been a snowball rolling down a mountainside for the last 60 plus years.

  643. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Please state your position on what the government has done to Rumeysa Ozturk. ”

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  644. Hail says: • Website

    Paul Craig Roberts, who turned 86 this past week, agrees with Steve Sailer’s assessment of the second Trump administration (as it nears its 80-day mark). Roberts’ summary of Trump-II so far:

    [A] lot of good initiatives undertaken in a haphazard way that could limit their effectiveness or even result in failure.

    The first time the American people tried to put Trump into the presidency, the chosen one did not know what he was doing and appointed his enemies to his government.

    The second time, his election was stolen.

    The third time he behaves instinctively without thought and design and undermines his opportunity to succeed.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2025/04/07/trump-an-assessment-after-the-first-quarter/

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  645. @Mark G.

    I do not know all the details of the Ozturk case

    because, like most complacent Americans, you’d rather not. Have you read her op-ed? Watched the video of her seizure? Pondered why the State Department is disseminating it?

    [Y]ou want to change the subject and continue to engage in evasion. You are doing that because you are a dishonest person of low moral character.

    Reflect on that today working for Uncle Sam behind a desk, valiantly saving the taxpayers money.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  646. @Mike Tre

    Concise and candid. We need more of that here.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  647. @Hail

    Thanks for this background and also for your alerts about Peak Stupidity being down. I don’t know what happened – I was down myself at the time.

  648. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “…and Christians simply refuse or decline to acknowledge unalloyed Jewish genocidal hostility and Jewish genocidal WAR, and somehow refuse or decline to fight back. …”

    In other words they are living together peacefully just as Jack D said. And if Jews are so hostile why is the intermarriage rate so high?

  649. @muggles

    Hell, let’s cut to the chase. Here’s a link to the (formerly) free speech of Rumeysa Ozturk:

    https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

    If you’re not afraid to look, show us where she touched you, Marco muggles.

  650. Mark G. says:
    @Greta Handel

    Once again, you did not respond to what I said and continue being an evasive little weasel. Whatever the situation is with Ozturk, people who work for the military are not going to quit and leave this country undefended and the people in it unsafe in order to protest what was done to Ozturk. That you would expect them to and attack them if they do not shows you care more about Muslims than the safety of Americans. The American people are not going to take the side of someone who cares more about Muslims than them.

    I am sympathetic to Ozturk and the Palestinians but your inept bumbling here has made me less so. It is offensive for you to engage in personal attacks on me because I prioritize the safety of my fellow Americans rather than quit in order to oppose the deportation of foreigners.

    I am not going to go on with this forever while you change the subject, demand I repeat what I already told you, do not respond to what I say, engage in evasion, and launch personal attacks. If I leave it is not because you “won”. I am not going to continue this forever because I have other things to do that are more important. Once again, when it comes to helping the Palestinians, you are doing more harm than good here.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  651. @Mike Tre

    Right, but at least a few leaders in America have been doing something about it.

    Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida has been killing D.I.E. programs all over the State and putting Big Trans Mouse back in his place. President Trump has been using threats of cut-offs of Federal funding to end D.I.E. programs in Universities, in addition to his rooting out this stuff within the Feral Gov’t.

    How come there are no comments about that here? How come Steve Sailer doesn’t write about these things?

    In the meantime, Mike, this Shakespeare story is yet another example of how the UK has fallen. Instead of an indiscriminate wrecking ball (Peter Brimelow terminology) who is doing a lot of good on our part, England’s got this Orwellian Starmer guy who feels HE can occasionally speak out on immigration and multi-culturalism, but the plebes better shut their damn mouths or go to jail. Even the Kings of olde weren’t this tyrannical.

  652. MEH 0910 says:
    @Hail

    He is married to a Korean woman of middling type.

    Is Richard Hanania married to a Korean woman? Previously it was said online that his wife was named Diana Mendoza (sometimes misspelled as Daina).

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  653. @Mark G.

    I am not going to continue this forever because I have other things to do that are more important.

    Sorry, Mark. We can leave it at that for now.

  654. Moshe Def says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I like what he is doing, and he’s clearly a great popularizer/marketer, but money has just stuck to him like lint to a silicone fuckdoll his entire adult life
    One has to wonder if he is in a Truman Show (and, whether he ever wonders about it or not)
    Relatedly, the money going to Elon stuff is a lot better than it going to a nigger NASA, etc.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  655. Brutusale says:
    @epebble

    The bears are hibernating at the moment.
    https://www.cnbc.com/

  656. Moshe Def says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Outside of the Boomers, attitudes are pretty different
    The Goyim know
    The Golem know
    Hell, even the Soyim know
    Everybody knows

  657. Netanyahu is setting an example for the world in dealing with Trump’s tariffs. To paraphrase Trump: “the US gives Israel $4 billion a year in aid but we still got jewed on trade.”

    Trump should stay the course on tariffs. The world has been picking the bones of US manufacturing for decades, while protecting its own industries with currency manipulation, subsidies and tariffs/quotas.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/stressing-billions-in-aid-trump-refuses-to-commit-to-removing-tariffs-on-israel/

  658. This extended discussion confirms that, for some people, free speech isn’t a matter of principle.

    Have a look back at what side various commenters – including a few also on this thread – took when the hand was up the other puppet:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/what-exactly-is-the-legal-theory-here/#comment-5926291

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  659. @YetAnotherAnon

    I wonder how many Jewish Brits [are] serving in the Israeli forces compared with the number in the British forces?

    Another pair of interesting ratios would be the number of British Muslims enlisted in ISIS, or other Islamic militia, versus the number enlisted to defend the King and Country of Britain.

    These numbers might be a little fuzzier since local grooming gangs and other mafia are arguably a type of ethno-religious militia.

    Both the Jewish and Muslim numbers could be compared to the native British enlistment rate in their own armed services, though maybe historical data would be more responsive since the recent armed services serve no obvious British interest, which, as in the US, is increasingly obvious to the natives who are therefore increasingly disinclined to participate.

    If I recall correctly, a decade or two ago, the total number of Muslims serving the US (or was it UK?) armed forces turned out to be about the same as the number of US (or UK?) troops killed in intra-service Muslim chimpouts. This led an internet wag (Mark Steyn?) to describe Muslim participation in Western militaries as “a wash”, but of course it’s really a massively net negative.

    There are in fact a huge number of Muslim military auxiliaries, contractors, allied units, etc. of the West, but then these wouldn’t be needed if the West weren’t mucking around in the Muslim lands in the first place.

  660. Hail says: • Website
    @Greta Handel

    I’d forgotten about the Justice Department case against the African People’s Socialist Party. The (arguable) legal overstep in charging them as being foreign agents notwithstanding, in the end they got a lot lighter treatment from the Biden people, in 2023-24, than a random anti-Israel protestor gets from the Trump people in 2025:

    Last 3 defendants in Uhuru conspiracy case avoid prison, but get probation

    By Spectrum News Staff | Pinellas County
    Dec. 16, 2024

    TAMPA, Fla. — Members of the Uhuru movement avoided prison time Monday instead of getting sentenced for their role in the worldwide conspiracy to disseminate Russian propaganda and spread discord in the U.S.

    Omali Yeshitela, Penny Hess and Jesse Nevel each received three years of probation and 300 hours of community service.

    A federal judge also ordered the three have no contact with Russian nationals or organizations.

    According to the Department of Justice, from May 2015 to July 2022, the Uhuru members acted on behalf of the Russian government within the U.S.

    In 2022, the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided the Uhuru house in St. Petersburg. They also raided several other properties connected to the group.

    An indictment that followed accused the group of being linked to a Russian national attempting to interfere in American politics.

    The Uhuru group said its support of Russia is a matter of free speech.

    _____________

    A few months before their leaders were charged, these people turned out a respectably-sized activist delegation at the big anti-war rally of February 2023, in Washington DC. See my writeup from that event at the time, which includes explicit reference to the African People’s Socialist Party and their presence in the rally area:

    Scenes from the anti-war rally in Washington (Feb. 19, 2023),” Hail To You, Feb. 23, 2023.

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2023/02/23/scenes-from-the-anti-war-rally-in-washington-feb-19-2023/

  661. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Your mendacious obsession gets weirder with each post. This has already been addressed, e.g.

    Jenner Ickham Errican #193: Tell us, what shithole country are you from?

    Greta Handel #204: I’m from yours.

    To be as clear as is possible in the English language, I am a native born, lifelong citizen and resident of the United States of America. What more do you need to get back to something important, a birth certificate?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  662. @Hail

    Mike Benz, a man widely seen as a Mossad asset.

    Can you explain this to me?

    My main familiarity with Benz is his long explanations of USAID misadventures, which may include Zionist shenanigans, though I admit I can’t bring any to mind to cite at the moment. Anyway he strikes me as an earnest and honest researcher and presenter, so if he’s harboring a hidden agenda, I’d like to know about it.

    Hanania, OTOH, has a law degree and in the past has written a few insightful things, but all his reversals and doublebacking made him an inveterate goofball. There is also some question as to whether he is/was underwritten by USAID.

  663. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I don’t think Steve’s interest in Rockwell’s White Lotus monologue was so much in the art or the acting as much as “here’s a plausible portrayal of a phenomenon that I’ve been harping on for a long time but that the the prestige press refuses to acknowledge.”

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  664. Hail says: • Website

    The art of borrowing Sailer/Sailer-commentariat ideas continues to find practitioners:

    Asian immigration and the signaling model of education

    The elephant in the room of the college admissions grind

    Written by Arctotherium for Aporia Magazine
    April 4, 2025

    There’s a small cottage industry of articles, blog posts, and essays pointing out how much more difficult, time-intensive, and “grindy” upper-middle class American childhoods have become in the 21st century. All of these identify the same cause: elite university admissions are far more competitive. This has led to much more intensive helicopter parenting to stop kids from falling behind in the increasingly important education-status race. It’s not just money. The social decay afflicting America since the 1960s is far worse among the non-college-educated (as Charles Murray showed in Coming Apart) so avoiding downward mobility is much more important than it once was.

    Helicopter parenting has gotten so intense that it even continues into university, turning what was once the start of independent adult life into a further extension of childhood. The effects of this are widely lamented: the pressures of Ivy League admissions are said to be crushing kids into status-obsessed zombies. And the effort it requires from parents is even blamed for falling birth rates. Setting aside the broader societal implications and long-term effects, isn’t making kids unnecessarily miserable for 13 years of their lives bad enough in and of itself?

    One might reply that it’s all worth it. Feeding 30% of kids into the college admissions meatgrinder might be bad, but stagnation is the default state of humanity and avoiding that is imperative. If it takes heroic efforts on the part of 12-year-olds to develop the skills needed to keep technological civilization running, then that’s a sacrifice that must be made. But is that really what’s going on?

    The signaling model of education

    The signaling model of education states that the labor market returns of education are primarily due to signaling, rather than human capital (education making students more productive) or pure selection (highly educated people being paid more because they are more productive for reasons that have nothing to do with education). That is, about 80% of the education premium is attributable to education revealing you have traits that make you more productive than your peers—as opposed to anything you actually learn in school.

    There are a few big lines of evidence for this. First: [….]

    Continued: https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/asian-immigration-and-the-signaling

    __________

    Someone, soon enough, flagged down Steve Sailer. He issued this statement:

    Steve Sailer says:

    [T]he SAT has been particularly prone to whatever it is Asians are doing to score higher. […] My guess would be that we could actually reform the tests to make them less sitting ducks for Asian tiger mothering. But nobody seems to be publicly studying this question.

  665. @MEH 0910

    Is Richard Hanania married to a Korean woman? Previously it was said online that his wife was named Diana Mendoza (sometimes misspelled as Daina).

    Maybe she identifies as Korean? Checkmate bigot!

  666. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    That video is completely ridiculous but it does fit in the E. Michael Jones trope of destructive jewish pornographic propaganda to undermine vulnerable targets. Real people do think like that. Real really screwed up and uninteresting people.

  667. @Greta Handel

    To be as clear as is possible in the English language, I am a native born, lifelong citizen and resident of the United States of America.

    Mmm-hmm. Is that what “your rulers” told you to say if questioned?

    Greta babe, relax. Just because you’re a foreigner doesn’t mean we can’t get along…

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7071267

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  668. res says:
    @Ralph L

    Steve’s substack on Musk says the 1988 SAT average for college-bound seniors was 904, which seems awfully low to me. Did that many kids on the Left Slope take the test? How many did and didn’t actually go to college because of low scores? I can’t remember when College for Everyone took over.

    The Dorans paper I linked above gives averages for the 1990 Reference Group (~1M people) of 422 V and 475 M so 897 total. Note that the IQ/SAT converter I linked gives a 96.15 IQ for 900 SAT. It also gives a 50.66 IQ for 430 SAT. I suspect the low end is off and the SAT is less linear there (because of the asymmetrical Bell Curve you note). Note that the converter was normed with that Mensa threshold (1250 = 130) so should be more accurate closer to that point. Remember that the SAT is normed to the test takers (circa when it is normed). Not the general population.

    The SAT was normed in 1952 and then renormed in 1974 (and again in the 1995 “recentering”). Note that the Mensa threshold dropped from 1300 to 1250 in 1974 (note that is low point of attendance at the link below). That seems odd to me. Maybe the FLynn Effect?

    College enrollment rates took off from about 1974 to 2010.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/236093/higher-education-enrollment-rates-by-age-group-us/

    Before WW2, you’d think just about everyone going to college would have a triple digit IQ, and the bell curve of test-takers might not be terribly symmetrical.

    Agreed. Some data for 1870-1950. 1950 is pretty close to 1974 (there was an increase during the draft for the Vietnam War).
    https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/teacher-resources/statistics-education-america-1860-1950

    Year | % 17yo HS grad | % 18-21 attending college
    1870 | 2 | 1.7
    1890 | 3.5 | 3.0
    1910 | 8.8 | 5.1
    1930 | 29 | 12.4
    1950 | 59 | 29.9

    P.S. Frey 2019 is another useful reference.
    What We Know, Are Still Getting Wrong, and Have Yet to Learn about the Relationships among the SAT, Intelligence and Achievement
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6963451/

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  669. Corvinus says:
    @Hail

    “I still don’t know what Richard Hanania’s “game” is”

    Of course you do, it’s the one you are playing as well. Build your brand. Now that Mr. Sailer isn’t here to whim your comments, you’re free to run roughshod here.

    Regarding Benz, he is a former Trump State Department official and has been promoted by Elon Musk. So it’s highly doubtful Benz is a Mossad agent given his association with Musk and how Benz in his “Frame Game” blamed (checks notes) Jews for controlling the media and for the decline of the white race. He and you are on the same page in that regard. Why punch down on him?

    Regarding Hanania, so what if he is married to a “Korean woman of middling type”? Just means he is not opposed to race mixing, like JD Vance or John Derbyshire.

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  670. @muggles

    I don’t think Israelis ram cars into crowds in Germany or shoot/blow up groups of civililans on the streets there and sometimes in the US.

    No; but they bomb US ships and shoot and kill American children.

    https://www.nj.com/news/2025/04/14-year-old-from-nj-killed-in-middle-east.html

    Do they hijack airlines and crash them into city buildings? They never did that even in hostile Arab nations.

  671. @Hail

    Meanwhile, some of the biggest “domestic threats” to our Constitutional republic are
    • Linuses afraid to put down their flags
    • NPRogressives who hibernate when Team Blue is on the prowl against dissent
    • bigots LARPing as patriotic conservatives.

    What do they have in common? The subordination of free speech to something else.

  672. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Please self-deport from this sporadically adult conversation. There might even be a wholesome, All-American girl out there who digs witless snark.

  673. @Mike Tre

    “It’s almost as if Wokeness is NOT actually going away cause it was just a fad, as Mr. Sailer told us. ”

    Wokeness has been a snowball rolling down a mountainside for the last 60 plus years.

    Agreed. “Woke” is just the same old minoritarian bullshit we’ve been bombarded with–media, academia, government, Hollyweird–for 60+ … now with girls one social media!

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Jack D
  674. @Greta Handel

    Over 8,000 comments in the Jenner Ickham Errican archive, and it appears that practically every one has been posted under Sailer. (JIE refused to answer when asked if he even read anything else on the website.) What some miss most about the old HBD tree fort is the echo.

    This may explain the weird, serial, mendacious replies to me. That’s also another way to think about why we shouldn’t fall for politicians who want to protect us from other people’s ideas.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  675. @epebble

    Peter Zeihan states that it would take 15 years (or maybe 7 years with others working in concert) just to replace China-centric electronics chain.

    [4:30]

    That’s a lot of factories to be build, staffed, engineers designing and stuff to be debugged… sure as hell ain’t going to be getting those people from the South Side of Chicago in the near future!

    Just think, when the US TV industry gave up the ghost i.e. Quasar, little did the USA realize the coming disaster that followed. Heck, even Tektronix oscilloscopes became a CHINESE company.

    • Thanks: epebble, Mr. Anon
  676. Jack D says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The Coppala winery is in Geyserville, Sonoma County, just north of Healdsburg.

    This area was not really much of a wine area before Prohibition. During Prohibition a tremendous business arose shipping wine grapes from the rail head at Healdsburg to eastern cities, especially those with large Italian American populations. This took up so much of the refrigerated (ice) car capacity that the apple growers of Washington complained that the law was being broken. Technically making wine at home was not legal but the Feds had enough on their hands with bootleggers and apparently looked the other way when Luigi made wine at home for his own family. The price of grapes skyrocketed immediately after Prohibition took effect but then people rushed into this profitable new business and soon (by 1924) there was overproduction and the price crashed back down

    During the off season they also sold “grape bricks” which was a dried out grape concentrate pressed into a brick. They came with instructions that said ” DO NOT add yeast or else fermentation may set in”.

    Busch sold a similar malt concentrate with the same instruction on how NOT to make beer.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  677. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    same old minoritarian bullshit we’ve been bombarded with–media, academia, government, Hollyweird–

    “Minoritarian” my ass – you mean “Joo” and you just don’t want to say it out loud (like you usually do).

    Men of Unz are living in the past. Maybe in your salad days wokeness was a Jooish phenomenon (not really – Jews were present but there were plenty of Goodwhites also) but nowadays among the Woke, Joos are on the bad list. Maybe even worse than ordinary white people because of Israel.

  678. I can’t remember – when Steve wrote “why lesbians aren’t gay” all those decades ago, did he mention Lesbian Bed Death? See guys, it’s not (necessarily) you …

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/apr/08/lesbian-bed-death-wife-13-years-since-had-sex

    My wife and I, both women in our 60s, have been together for more than 20 years. We stopped having sex about 13 years ago, due to a combination of getting a dog (who sleeps with us) and her going through the menopause. I had a bit of a lull in my own libido when I went through menopause about nine years ago, but it came roaring back. She is not interested in sex at all and is also resentful that I have a hoarding problem, even though I’m in therapy for it.

    UPDATE – 1994!! – yes, it’s there:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-lesbians-arent-gay/

    Talking of, “it’s dangerous to bring many strange men home”, Albanians in the UK are discovering that Grindr can be a useful source of income:

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/25070334.gang-ringleader-targeted-gay-men-using-grindr-locked/

    The ringleader of a gang of young criminals who targeted gay men using the Grindr app has been sentenced to four-and-a-half years in a young offender institution.

    Over a three-week period last year the group led by Villian Kesel arranged meetings with five men using the dating app and then stole items from their homes or demanded money.

    In the most serious incident the gang’s victim was forced into a car on a Bradford street and detained in the vehicle by four men for about an hour.

    During the robbery the man was forced to transfer more than £600 into a bank account linked to Kesel and he was called “a nonce” and a “paedophile”.

    Kesel, of Buxton Street, near Lister Park, Bradford, admitted four offences of burglary and one offence of robbery on the day of his trial in February this year and the court heard that he had previous convictions for offences of robbery and attempted robbery.

    Aribri Sinaj, 22, of Brougham Street, Burnley, was found guilty at the trial of playing a limited role in one of the burglary incidents and he was jailed today for two years.

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Curle
  679. @Hail

    Black Uhuru were a good band. My copy says “Keith Richard of the Stone” is playing guitar somewhere in the mix.

  680. epebble says:
    @Joe Stalin

    sure as hell ain’t going to be getting those people

    We also have:

    Survey: Gen Zers don’t want to work in factories; they see industrial jobs as low-paying dead ends
    Younger workers appear to have little interest in skilled labor, even as the need for manufacturing and clean-energy talent grows.
    https://www.fastcompany.com/90971832/gen-z-careers-factory-manufacturing-low-pay-survey

    POV: We need more Gen Zers working with their hands
    Jobber’s CEO asks: Why are we nudging Gen Z away from lucrative career and entrepreneurship opportunities right when they need them most?
    https://www.fastcompany.com/90967769/pov-we-need-more-gen-zers-working-with-their-hands

  681. @Joe Stalin

    Peter Zeihan is a military contractor puppet. Does anybody think Donald the Fat’s bosses are going to allow him to downsize the military to something affordable?

  682. @Greta Handel

    There might even be a wholesome, All-American girl out there who digs witless snark.

    Girl, whatever your origin, you obviously dig my snark, because you keep replying with your own snark. Looks like we kinda got sumpn’ goin’ on here. We’re gonna need to Greta room. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

  683. @Jack D

    ‘…Maybe even worse than ordinary white people because of Israel.’

    ‘…Maybe even worse than ordinary white people because of Israel.’

    There you go.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  684. @Greta Handel

    (JIE refused to answer when asked if he even read anything else on the website.)

    Refused? LOL. Here is the exchange:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7064127

    Greta
    But based on 200+ comments this year, you apparently confine your reading to Sailer’s HBD tree fort. Why?

    JIE
    Hmmm. You can tell what I’ve read or not by my comments? Amazing!

    Greta
    I said “apparently,” but yeah — and here once again — pretty much.

    For the record, of course I read other stuff on Unz. You oddly assumed because I comment at iSteve I don’t read anything else. Do you only visit Unz.com? An internet search for “Greta Handel” only finds comments from that handle on Unz. Why do you confine your reading to the Unz tree fort, Greta?

    weird, serial, mendacious

    Yes, that accurately describes your spammy comments (see the blockquotes) :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7069353

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  685. @Greta Handel

    I remember that story (thanks, Mr. Hail for the link to the Pinellas County news source), and I just looked back over our comments there. What’s the problem? I believe iSteve and most commenters’ opinions were that this was part of the years-long Russia! Russia! Russia! fake news campaign designed to distract Trump-45 from getting anything done. (It worked.)

    I see that Uhura BS, and I’m as disgusted with it as I’ve always been. However, even were these people agitating as part of some real anti-American campaign, nobody would be calling for their deportations, because of something you’ve been told here 20 times probably but amazingly cannot understand. Like it or not, Omali Yeshitela, Penny Hess, and Jesse Neve are Americans, at least in citizenship if not spirit.

    I saw no wording about their being exchange students, visiting scholars, indentured servants, errr, H1B visa holders (doubt the latter would have any time for this), or anything else but American citizens.

    As much as I’d like to never hear from them again, I can’t speak for every single commenter, but we think the whole thing is bogus, but were it not, you can’t deport Americans.

    WTF is so hard to understand about that?

  686. @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, I understand it. And it’s craven.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  687. @Achmed E. Newman

    But do you still Agree with what I wrote a couple years ago?
    I’ll put it below for convenient reference.

    [MORE]
    Instead of answering or even addressing his headlined question

    What Exactly Is the Legal Theory Here?

    Mr. Sailer reliably uses the Establishment’s next step in the criminalization of dissent as an opportunity to punch down at “Russian incompetence” and “dimwitted black racist[s].”

    I’ve already posted twice at TUR a link to another report noted by another commenter up in Newslinks the other day:

    https://news.antiwar.com/2023/04/19/bidens-doj-indicts-four-americans-for-their-political-views-on-russia/

    that gets to the “legal theory here”: using national boundaries and criminal lawfare to control what you read, write, hear, or say. (St. Mueller’s altar boy, Andrew “Freedom Watcher” Napolitano, was endorsing it five years ago.)

    So if you hit the AGREE button beneath the comment of someone who turns out to be Boris or Natasha criticizing a Red+Blue politician or urging abstinence from the next Most Important Election Ever, will you be indicted? As publisher of a website facilitating thought contamination of Exceptionalians by foreign boogeymen, can Mr. Unz be charged, too?

    No matter his views on particular issues, any free man will see that this governmental lawfare on personal autonomy is an atrocity, a litmus test equivalent to mandating or coercing COVID shots.

    I hope that at least some of Mr. Sailer’s readers will give this the serious consideration it deserves.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  688. “This place depresses me.

    And on and on…

    You all are the fucking peanut gallery.”

    Absolutely. It’s the natural and expected consequence when Ron Unz placed quantity above quality viz the post-Sailer commentardiat. Astonishingly, the comments to his own articles and – frankly – to every other article on UR outshine the logghoria spewed rond chere. This place merits a full-term abortion in a big way.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  689. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I remember at the time the liberal press in the UK initially started off with how authoritarian China was being, then suddenly a U-turn took place and the same press rather hysterically began demanding stern measures to fight Covid… Not unlike what the Chinese were doing in fact.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  690. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There has always been a problem with “rough trade”. Turing got in trouble when one of his working class rent boys (age 19) told his friends about his swank place and they came and burglarized it. Homosexuality was illegal at the time but Turing was naive enough to file a police complaint about the burglary. In the course of questioning Turing they figured out that he was gay (it wasn’t difficult – he more or less said as much) and arrested him too.

  691. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    See the Woke and the Men of Unz have something in common… they both hate Jews. The Woke and the Men of Unz don’t agree about much but they both agree that Joos are eeebil.

    If the Woke hate Jews, how could Jews be driving wokeness (not counting Jewish anti-Semites, who do in fact exist)?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Corvinus
  692. @Jack D

    During Prohibition, my paternal grandfather Mohawk in Northern California bought “Dago Red” wine from local Italian-American families. My father told me about this.

    Grandpa and Grandma also brewed their own beer and bottled it in their basement at that time.

    My aunt, Dad’s sister, was a classmate of the Gallo sisters, the siblings of Earnest and Julio. Her son, my cousin, founded a newspaper there and eventually became the mayor. I have been to the Grape Festival and watched the parade from his front porch.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  693. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    I don’t know if “living in the past” can be applied to a situation where someone was advocating for it for years but did a hairpin turn because he realized that his agitation could boomerang on him. This isn’t like the passage of time carving out a rock formation, this is more like the criminal got caught and now he insists that he rejects crime.

  694. @Greta Handel

    I agree with what I agreed with then, which doesn’t include your silly slur on Steve Sailer. (He was making some good witty commentary about the stupidity of that particular story.).

    Yes, Dark Brandon and the ctrl-left WOULD HAVE and WILL clamp down on speech against the Regime, so long as we let that happen. Kicking foreigners out of the country, as targeted – only as of yet, hopefully – as it is, for getting involved in American politics is a very good thing. We can spread out from there…

    It’s kind of late now to write under that 2 y/o post, but if you asked the commenters here whether all the foreign visa(or not) holders involved in Uhura should be deported, were there any, we’d generally agree. Of course Brandon would never have done that – his goal was to destroy the country – the more anti-American and/or just violent foreigners here, the better. (You know the Brandon Admin’s goal in this story was to keep that Russia! Russia! Russia! story alive, as did I, Steve Sailer and the rest of us.)

    Fortunately we’ve got someone with the opposite aims in there. Go ahead and drag him down like a fellow crap in the bucket, Greta.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  695. @Greta Handel

    And it’s craven.

    Tell that to the rest of the countries of the world, who aren’t patsies. (Thanks for that term, AnotherDad.)

  696. @res

    The Dorans paper I linked above gives averages for the 1990 Reference Group (~1M people) of 422 V and 475 M so 897 total. Note that the IQ/SAT converter I linked gives a 96.15 IQ for 900 SAT.

    Yeah, this conversion is obviously no good for a 900 SAT in 1990.

    The College Board has some sort of “whole population” %tile tables that looked at once upon a time. To me they seemed pretty conservative–i.e. conservative about how much skew there is in the test taking population relative to the general population.

    My rough take is the obvious:
    — At the elite level it’s pretty much divide by two. I.e. everyone at your level is taking the test, so if you score exactly at the 99%tile–without test prepping your ass off–then you are really a 99.5 %tile guy.

    — But if you’ve got a ho-hum middle of the pack score, then your “real” percentile in the general population, while it jumps more in points, moves less relatively. I don’t know what the numbers are, but I’d suspect at a median SAT score the non-testing population is probably something like 70% below and 30% above something like that.

    It’s pretty hard to figure straight up, because it includes two separate issues:
    — college / no-college, which itself is highly sex-skewed now, with a lot more reasonably smart but not academic guys giving the whole feminized college thing a pass
    and
    — SAT / ACT divergence which means there are a bunch of fairly smarts in flyover country targeting their big state u, who do not take the SAT. (I was targeting schools that wanted one, and others that wanted the other so I took them both. But many people do not need to.)

    ~~

    Personally, I think it would be nice to have some sort of national “school leaving” test that everyone took for some good data on what sort of smarts/capability we have in the population and how it’s changing–which would also help norm the college tests. But I’m kind of demographic nerd.

  697. So much back-and-forth here about arrests and deportations of permanent residents and visa holders.

    The crux of the matter isn’t that we should deport aliens we don’t want here. You won’t find much argument from me about that. Just don’t allow them here in the first place. Fine.

    Many here seem to say those students or whoever “broke the law.” Well, I guess some technically did by doing what many annoying student protesters have done for generations, if you mean occupying campus spaces and buildings and interfering with things. Yes.

    One of them, though, apparently just wrote an op ed in the campus newspaper advocating divestiture from Israel, in protest of what Israel is doing in Gaza.

    In fact, this whole kerfuffle is about what Israel is doing in Gaza, and the reason “our” government is cracking down on it is because “our” government is aligned with Israel. Protests and editorials against Israeli actions are frowned upon, and now “our” government is kicking out whoever it can who does that.

    Commenters here cheer, because they are happy to see people they don’t want here kicked out. They don’t care why, they just think it’s cool. Technically, it pleases them, but…

    … the real reason this is happening is because “our” government supports, enables, facilitates and approves of what Israel is doing in Gaza.

    The heart of the matter is not immigrants here, but slaughter and land-theft there. The plan is to eliminate millions of people who are inconvenient there, and that activity is approved here, and anyone who expresses disapproval who is not a citizen here can be kicked out.

    This has nothing to do with immigration, but some -tards are presenting as if it does. That is what is bothersome.

    The biggest and most deceptive -tards are the ones who will say someone like me is defending Hamas. That is laughable, and it is a trick — predictable, common, and fully in character for whom we are dealing with. I am not defending Hamas or anyone else.

  698. @Corvinus

    Your paragraph on Benz is mostly correct. He is on Team Musk and disseminates accurate information on Musk’s enemies, personages I tend to dislike as well but who cares I’m a nobody. People who appreciate the merger of Team Trump and Team Musk should know that Musk is essentially owned by Team Breakaway Civilization which was spotted in the wild and in the aftermath of the Big One –WW2. TBC combines high-finance and technology that is a synthesis of human and non-human origin.

  699. @Jack D

    Jews were placed on the hit-list by those upper-middle class and higher anti-racist whites who were taught to hate themselves — parents, friends, teachers, the culture. The divide and conquer technique being employed to now target Jews was devised using methods generated by the Frankfurt School. The whole coming back to bite one in the ass thing is appropriate here.

    • LOL: Corvinus
  700. @Buzz Mohawk

    One of them, though, apparently just wrote an op ed in the campus newspaper advocating divestiture from Israel, in protest of what Israel is doing in Gaza.

    I would only add that it’s apparent Rumeysa Ozturk and her eloquent, measured, nonviolent essay* were chosen, and the video of her goony seizure on a public street publicized, for that very reason.

    The Establishment’s war is on dissent, its increasingly favorite strategy since the PATRIOT Act the criminalization of thought.

    * https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

  701. @Buzz Mohawk

    This has nothing to do with immigration, but some -tards are presenting as if it does. That is what is bothersome.

    Buzz, it shows in stark relief that non-citizens have fewer rights than citizens, as it should be. “Because Israel” as an immigration wedge is brilliant because many immivasion advocates and normalizers are afraid to be publicly anti-Zionist (‘antisemitism!’ zomg), so they’re muted in this case. In particular, heads of institutions are caught in the headlights, as the Congressional hearings with Claudine Gay and others entertainingly proved.

    Now, if you believe that some hijabi from wherever was thiiiis close to finally abolishing the state of Israel if not for those meddling Trumpers, then you may be more than a bit delusional. The hijabi is, among other cases, a foil to test/prove statute-based federal plenary power against foreigners, and to create a deterrent to other would-be ‘visitors’. Oddly, despite your angst, I don’t hear you calling for a repeal of the statute(s) that enabled the feds to arrest her…

    Read up in the lefty Boston Review on the “plenary power doctrine” wielded by Trump that has got immivasion advocates and their useful idiots hopping mad:

    https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/the-insidious-doctrine-fueling-the-case-against-mahmoud-khalil/

    The Insidious Doctrine Fueling the Case Against Mahmoud Khalil

    How a century of immigration law has evaded constitutional rights.

    Debbie Nathan

    History, Immigration

  702. @Jack D

    Maybe in your salad days wokeness was a Jooish phenomenon […] but nowadays among the Woke, Joos are on the bad list.

    That doesn’t mean Joos aren’t still woke (aka anti-White), it just means the woke golems Joos nurtured are acting, well, like golems. Tough scene. 🙂

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  703. The Supreme Court denied cert in the Antioch case.

    California has some serious phobias when it comes to firearms and their treatment of suppressors is no different.

    William Kirk discusses yesterday’s press release from DOJ and news that at least two other new ATF rules may be on the chopping block as well.

    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1909758206164849147
    https://twitter.com/hannahhill_sc/status/1909721059584094269
    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/1909728051597803776

  704. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer wants a federal government civil-service exam to come back, believes a handful of competent Trump-II people might make it happen:

    TRUMP ADMINISTRATION DOES SOMETHING SMART

    Only 44 years after the Carter Administration junked the civil service exam because of disparate impact, the White House is trying to get out from under the Luevano Consent Decree.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 09, 2025

    ____________

    Ten years ago I wrote a Taki’s Magazine article on one of the more self-destructive acts in the history of the U.S. government when the defeated Carter Administration intentionally hamstrung state capacity by throwing out the brand new, superbly validate civil service exam in the name of racial equity:

    […] By the late 1970s, the federal government had a superb test, the Professional and Administrative Career Examination, which had been validated for 118 different positions.

    Of course, blacks and Hispanics did less well on this test than whites and Asians. Therefore the EEOC tacitly sponsored a lawsuit and filed it under the name of a Mexican-American plaintiff who had failed the test, Angel Luevano.

    For two years the Carter administration quietly conspired with liberal public interest law firms, the purported opponents in the suit. And as it was packing up, the Carter Justice Department signed a consent decree, approved by a picked judge, junking the civil service examination.

    Finally, 44 years later, the new Trump Administration is trying to get out from under the Luevano consent decree:

    From the Trump Administration’s filing:

    … More than forty years later, the Luevano Consent Decree still binds OPM [Office of Personnel Management] and every other executive branch agency. But OPM has struggled to develop any test that meets the Decree’s stringent adverse impact, validity, and notice requirements. [….]

    [….] Hiring better federal employees by using scientifically validated hiring methods would seem like a really good way to save money on the federal government.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/trump-administration-does-something

  705. Hail says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk

    the reason “our” government is cracking down on it is because “our” government is aligned with Israel. Protests and editorials against Israeli actions are frowned upon, and now “our” government is kicking out whoever it can who does that.

    Commenters here cheer

    If anyone is cheering, it it a profound mistake.

    This thing with Israel/Palestine is a black mark against these Trump-II people: they’ve delivered not mass deportations but self-puppetization: imbecilic, myopic, immoral.

    The often-agitated Fox News host Tammy Bruce (who is an LGBT) was appointed State Department spokesperson, for some reason. She has been consistently delivering gratuitously anti-Palestinian, pro-Israel invectives. She is angry at how bad the evil Palestinians are (or Houthis, or Iranians, or whichever opponent of Israel can be identified). It’s unbecoming of someone representing the USA; and discrediting of the whatever good the rest of this government tries to do.

    By appearances, Tammy Bruce, and many others of these Trump-II people, genuinely believe the USA exists to be a giant auxiliary to Israel. Both U.S. foreign and domestic policy are to roam the globe searching for anti-Semitic dragons to slay. The turning of domestic policy against critics of Israel is an example not of zealous immigration enforcement, but of craven self-puppetization.

    (Steve Sailer may have neglected to criticize the arrest, jailing, and deportations of the anti-Israel op-ed writers. But I may have missed it.)

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @Mr. Anon
  706. J.Ross says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Good catch, I forgot the golem metaphor (this is literally in your own mythology, Jack!).

    Three independent replies, pretty much the same (correct by the way) point. I wonder if AI could collate that, so that if you post 2+2=5 and you get three replies calling you an idiot and twenty saying it’s 4 and one saying it’s 6, that could be briefly summarized the way you can instantly see that you got 24 replies.

  707. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    [The African People’s Socialist Party] turned out a respectably-sized activist delegation at the big anti-war rally of February 2023, in Washington DC […]

    Scenes from the anti-war rally in Washington (Feb. 19, 2023),” Hail To You, Feb. 23, 2023.

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2023/02/23/scenes-from-the-anti-war-rally-in-washington-feb-19-2023/

    Here is the relevant excerpt from my full writeup of (impressions of) the Feb 2023 anti-war rally, in which I mention the African People’s Socialist Party’s presence. Written two months before the Department of Justice under Merrick Garfinkel (b.k.a. Garland) charged the leaders of this little political-action group with sedition. The name of this group had not been in the news before the late-April 2023 indictment:

    [MORE]

    Blacks

    Off to one side, later in the day, a group of what seem to be Black-separatists sets up a small booth. They are dressed in semi-uniforms. A banner indicates they are the “African People’s Socialist Party.” There are four or five people running the table with literature about their political goals.

    A teen Black girl, who I take to be the daughter of the head-man running the table for the African People’s Socialist Party, is grinning. It’s that wide, all-teeth grin — the way only Blacks can grin. She and another of the party-cadre are chatting with people. Someone has said something funny.

    There is not much of a presence of Blacks, and in any shorter version of this report the minor presence by these people would be safely omitted, but the little scene reminds me of a major story of 2019, involving the notorious anti-white Black Israelite group, a so-called Indian elder, a handful of White Kentucky student-tourists, and a dishonest “media” or info-dissemination apparatus. That event, as trivial as it was before getting demagogued on so hard by Woke myth-weavers, occurred within a “long stone’s throw” (or two) of where this minor black-radical group is chatting amiably with people.

    The name and the uniforms of the African People’s Socialist Party may sound menacing, but they are not comparable to the Black Israelite group, which views the Black-Subsahran diaspora as God’s Chosen People, and Whites as satanic. The Black Israelites have an active section in this city and are often seen in certain neighborhoods doing street-preaching, perhaps a little bit of an embarrassment to mainstreamer-Wokeness advocates. The Black Israelites are given wide leeway by local police, and their questionably legal street-demonstrations are seldom, if ever, broken up — at least within the wide areas of leeway they are implicitly given. This is similar in spirit to the policy to not enforce laws against homelessness, a policy turbocharged during the Corona-Panic.

    The pro-Wokeness and pro-War consensus in places like this runs implicitly under the guiding-principle of “Anarcho-Tyranny,” and the attitudes towards the Black Israelites are one little example among so many, as was the policy to allow public parks to become homeless drug encampments with semi-weekly overdose deaths and harassment of passersby. (The Corona-Panic was a stress-test to the system during the Corona-Panic and other times, and Anarcho-Tyranny gained ground during the Panic and because of the Panic.) Even though the Black Israelites are a minor group, the revealed principle is important.

    I haven’t seen any Black Israelites in quite a while, and don’t wish to, but I am reminded of how Black Israelites were the (unseen) protagonists in a worldwide-sensational news-story in January 2019. A group of Black Israelites spent about a half hour savagely racially berating a group of White student-tourists from Kentucky near the Lincoln Memorial, within a quiet-day’s easy earshot of the podium-site at this rally. The students had been left alone to wait at a spot near the Lincoln Memorial, as their larger group rendezvoused from their tourist-doings. They were waiting for their tour-buses. The Black Israelites’ anti-white tirades directed at the White teenagers attracted attention, and after a while a so-called “tribal elder,” a man of dubious origin and character by name of Nathan Philips, wandered in, saw an opening, and jumped into the fun, and confronted the teenagers up close, banging on a drum. Why did he do it? Perhaps he had imagined himself part of a united Colored Man’s Front against the great menace that is loitering white teenagers. The large group of White teenagers did not run off. In fact, most didn’t pay attention and horseplayed amongst themselves or the like.

    The media, or social-media, or whatever we call this process, used an out-of-context video-clip and concocted a story of cruel, malicious White-MAGA-thugs, bullies, surrounding a helpless, saintly, lone American Indian “elder” (as they called him; the tribal “elder” title was a claim which, to use a favorite-phrase of theirs oft-heard in other contexts, was “without evidence”). A few boys had bought the MAGA caps from street-vendors that day. The MAGA hat item always a steady-seller in those years. That was all there is too it. It became a mini-panic. No one mentioned the Black Israelites except a few non-Woke or anti-Woke alt-media types. It seems it also briefly percolated into the Fox News sphere, whose political-commissars greenlighted a counter-attack on the Lincoln Memorial event.

    It all sounds strange, now, the retelling that such a trivial incident like that. Will anyone one century from now believe it was really a big deal, that it become such a huge story at the time? Those of us alive and cognizant in 2019 remember that it was so. But it was a wholly fake story, and in time fell apart with hardly a mea-culpa. Two weeks after the events I’ve just described came the infamous Jussie Smollett Hoax, a very similar kind of story to the Lincoln Memorial media-created hoax I’ve just summarized. The Jussie Smollett Hoax, an adrenaline rush for Wokeness, was maintained to be real for several weeks until also falling apart.

    My reflections and memories of the recent past tell me that by the late-2010s, the Internet-age’s infosphere had become (more than a bit of a) poisoned chalice. That early-2019 story from the Lincoln Memorial ended up with media version divorced from reality, bereft of standards of objectivity, “cut loose” from oversight by responsible reporters. I have to say it presaged the formation of the Corona-Panic one short year later; the Panic relied on similar reality-detachment, and it was able to “dig in deep,” using processes not unlike what I’ve just described.

    In part this is a reason for the turnout problem at this promising anti-war rally. No doubt some are worried about being crucified by “the media,” having observed how it operates. In early 2003, when many hundreds of thousands marches against one of the Iraq wars, the “media” environment was very different.

    The use of Russian flags by this suspicious little group of men who don’t talk to anyone else, here at this rally, is in part more old-style sabotage tactic intended to discredit, the very same tactic no doubt used many times by intelligence-agencies going back generations, and if it turns out the suspicious handful of men were assets of Ukraine influence-operations active here, who would be surprised? That kind of ‘op’ differs from the kind of process that creates the histrionic, screaming environment of social media, but old-style sabotage tactics can still work well.

    https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2023/02/23/scenes-from-the-anti-war-rally-in-washington-feb-19-2023/

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  708. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The Gallos were from Modesto, which is inland around 90 miles east of San Francisco. Healdsburg is maybe 70 miles north. In CA the really good wine country is near the coast where there are cool coastal breezes and morning fogs in a river valley. Inland in the Central Valley (not really a valley, more like a vast flat plain) the endless sun blazes hot so the grapes ripen quickly without much character but you can produce millions of gallons of plonk.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  709. Jack D says:
    @Hail

    What has been going on in the courts is basically a racket where the government colludes with plaintiffs to enter into a “consent decree” or to set bad precedents in the case law.

    One of the basics of law is that there has to be a “case or controversy” before the court – a real unfixed boxing match where both sides do their best to fight it out, may the best man win. This is how the law gets shaped properly. If one party is clearly taking a dive, the court is supposed to recognize that and dismiss the case.

    Unfortunately the courts are in on the scam also. Something like 95% of voters in DC are Democrats so you have a Democrat government lawyer facing a Democrat “public interest” law firm appearing before a Democrat judge.

    Trump has vowed to end this whole collusive system which has corrupted our institutions from top to bottom. One party rule is never good for democracy. For 4 years the Democrats crowed endlessly about democracy and how Trump was undermining democracy but then they put Kamala on the ballot by a totally undemocratic method.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  710. @Jack D

    See the Woke and the Men of Unz have something in common… they both hate Jews. The Woke and the Men of Unz don’t agree about much but they both agree that Joos are eeebil.

    I can see you find it necessary to believe this singularly morbid fantasy.

    Would it be only because thus you can avoid considering the possibility that some of the criticism might be justified? See your ridiculous attempt to assert Jews do not have excessive influence over the policies of the United States.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  711. res says:
    @AnotherDad

    Your rough take seems reasonable to me.

    Here are the SAT Nationally Representative and User Percentiles for Verbal/Math/Total.
    https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/understanding-scores/sat
    Would be interesting to plot those. The big problem I see is lack of sub-integer percent information for looking at the tails.

    The SAT tester pool is biased by two countervailing forces.
    – States which require it (or otherwise have near 100% taking it).
    – ACT country where only 0-5% (or so) take it. Presumably the best students applying to colleges nationwide.

    Would be interesting to plot average score vs. % taking the SAT by state.
    https://www.ontocollege.com/average-sat-score/

    That and some related analysis here.
    https://medium.com/@james.dargan/participation-skews-state-averages-f68969371a01

    Personally, I think it would be nice to have some sort of national “school leaving” test that everyone took for some good data on what sort of smarts/capability we have in the population and how it’s changing–which would also help norm the college tests.

    Agreed. Maybe scaling up the survey sampling based NAEP tests?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assessment_of_Educational_Progress

    Or this?
    https://www.setontesting.com/product/cat-survey/

    Big list of nationally normed tests.
    https://thsc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2021-Nationally-Normed-Assesments-Comprehensive-List-Sheet1-1.pdf

  712. @Wielgus

    ‘I remember at the time the liberal press in the UK initially started off with how authoritarian China was being, then suddenly a U-turn took place and the same press rather hysterically began demanding stern measures to fight Covid… Not unlike what the Chinese were doing in fact.’

    It was all very interesting; the more so as the outbreak really was more or less of the same order of magnitude as previous flu epidemics.

    In fact, I didn’t conduct an epidemiological study, but it seemed to me that the flu around here this last winter was more widespread and more severe than the dread Covid ever was. For all I know it might have been the dread Covid redux — only the powers that be realized they’d best lay off. Nobody was willing to go through that again.

    It’s a thought. Did the Covid ever go away — or did they just give up on pretending to do something about it?

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  713. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    How much is “excessive”? Who determines this?

    Criticism is OK but considering the Jews to be the root of all evil is not.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @J.Ross
  714. How much is “excessive”?

    What we had under the Biden administration was excessive, grotesquely so.

    Without exaggeration, it was comparable to the overrepresentation of the aristocracy in Sixteenth Century courts. I would say, granting marginally greater Ashkenazi intelligence and greater focus, drive, and competitiveness, that a Jewish representation among ‘the commanding heights’ of 10% rather than 2% would be only reasonable. 50-80% is not.

    If nothing else, representation at such levels literally does make you responsible for our problems. If I claim ‘the Jews’ were responsible for the massive and catastrophic influx of illegals during the Biden administration, you cannot gainsay that.

    Do you actually want Jews to be in that position? Is that wise?

    It’s a problem, and if you don’t want others to do something about it, perhaps you should work out what to do about it yourselves.

    ‘Criticism is OK but considering the Jews to be the root of all evil is not.’

    I agree, but it is also not okay to use accusations of antisemitism to intimidate and muzzle all discussion and analysis of what is going on. This last, you yourself attempt to do.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  715. @Corpse Tooth

    “the globalist or neoliberal corporatists that Steve’s favorite author warned us about.”

    Charles Murray? Me?

  716. @Achmed E. Newman

    Well that’s just clear as mud — calling unspecified people some new names.

    1. Do you consider Rumeysa Ozturk an “anti-American and/or just violent foreigner”? If so, tell me precisely what she did or said that’s anti-American and/or violent.

    2. Do you consider the four people indicted in 2023 “anti-American and/or just violent foreigners citizens”? If so, tell me precisely what they did or said that’s anti-American and/or violent.

    Because I consider you increasingly confused and/or evasive.

  717. @Hail

    Now there’s some real noticing. Again I say,

    Hail, Caesar!

  718. @Jack D

    Yes, Jack, I know where the Gallos are from. I was born in that area, remember? And in case you missed it, I have family connections there. I have chosen not to mention specific town names, but I will say that my father grew up in Modesto, which is obvious because of the Gallos.

    My cousin was the mayor of another town where there are vineyards. He published a newspaper there, as I’ve said. He also wrote a couple of books about the history of the area. I was born in yet a third town.

    What the Gallo boys did was build a massive fortune making “plonk” after Prohibition ended. Their family no longer had to sell “Dago Red Plonk” to individual families like my father’s.

    (Also, no one in my family had a chicken farm, but my father had his own engineering company when I was born. Now, are you going to describe to us all how the really good engineering was somewhere else?)

  719. @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    OTOH, it’s been fascinating to read and engage unWhimmed the thinking of Sailer’s remaining groupies on free speech, one of my pet peeves. And it looks like Hail will be bringing in from Substack fresh loads of the copium denmother’s thoughts the way Sailer himself used to harvest The New York Times.

    As long as there’s no lab leak, maybe the experiment should continue.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  720. @Hail

    The UK needs to do that too.

    A relative took the UK Civil Service exam aged 16 in around 1938, passed out third. It transformed his life compared with those of his siblings, catapulting him into the middle class.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  721. MEH 0910 says:

    Steve’s latest biweekly Taki’s Magazine piece:
    https://www.takimag.com/article/o-canada/
    https://archive.is/oZL5n

    O Canada
    Steve Sailer
    April 09, 2025

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @Hail
  722. Curle says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    She is not interested in sex at all and is also resentful that I have a hoarding problem

    Good for her re: her opinion of hoarding. It is a horrible problem for the non-hoarders in the family and it is an overwhelmingly female problem that doesn’t get discussed as a female problem. Bit of a problem means she can’t stop buying things she and they don’t need that clutter up the living space. This bizarre inability to bypass a ‘bargain’ or to get a ‘pick me up’ from shopping is pernicious.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    , @MEH 0910
  723. Mark G. says:
    @Hail

    “Steve Sailer wants a federal government civil-service exam to come back.”

    That would help in the case of higher level government jobs. In the case of lower level jobs, though, we can’t go back to the seventies.

    The reason for that is because of the dysgenic effects of sixty years of our welfare and immigration policies. There are just not a lot of triple digit IQ younger Whites in this country, certainly not enough to fill all the jobs where they are needed.

    You have non-Whites applying for lower level federal government jobs who can’t do basic math or write. I am not talking about an occasional careless spelling or grammar error here. I am talking about writing that you can’t even understand. My boss who does the hiring for my army accounting office has told me a lot of people applying for jobs here can’t even figure out how to fill out the job application form correctly.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  724. Mike Tre says:
    @Hail

    Jewish/zionist influence over US policy: wrong.*

    Foreigners exploiting US immigration/visa laws: wrong.

    So I’m not sure how using the latter against the former somehow makes a right.

    And no one in the US suffers more from this that normie whites, BTW. I don’t see our above pointing that out. It really is amazing how little regard Sailer’s sycophants have for normal Americans.

  725. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    Why are you such an advocate for foreign people to be in this country? Are you of white/European descent?

    If the US is a shithole as you agreed with, why are you here? Why don’t you go to Palestine?

  726. Old Prude says:
    @Curle

    Hoarding is not an exclusively female problem. My brother in law is the worst hoarder in the family, to the point of bringing his wife to tears. The only time I tuned into the old cable show “Hoarders” it featured a black man who slept on a mattress on the floor of his house cluttered – jammed full, actually – of crap. “Just a homeless man with a house” he described.

    Sure, women do love to shop, and love a bargain, but that the “gathering” part of hunter-gatherer. It’s in the genes, the same way a guy can spend all day bass fishing.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Moshe Def
  727. @AnotherDad

    Before we get into anything serious at all about the nature of the SAT, who takes it, who should take it, how it should be scored or weighted, what it should be used for etc., we have to go back to first principles.

    Like everything else in American public discourse, the idea of “college” has been sentimentalized: it is subject, like all other important topics in American discourse, to emotional hysteria, intellectually childish, un-historic, non-historic, and a-historic hermeneutics, and a general sort of silliness worthy of an Ernie Bushmiller “Nancy” cartoon.

    Riddle me this, Batman: what exactly is the purpose of “college”? If *everybody* in our society were to go to “college,” (as some very powerful people have declaimed), then what is the effect on our society? What is the effect on “college”?

    Nobody asks or answers these questions, because everybody is conditioned to think in sentimental terms.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Adam Smith
  728. @Greta Handel

    1) Neither. From what I gather – I honestly don’t care about this Rumeysa chick – she wrote some pro-Palestinian missive or whatever. I already wrote above that, yes, this is targeted for reasons we all know. However, it’s no assault on the free speech of Americans.

    I don’t think Trump & co. made a good call here, but since they have, it’s not a bad place to start to let people know that if you’re a guest in our home, STAY out of American politics! I’d like to see this go much, much further.

    2) I just got done writing that this was a Dark Brandon move to keep the Russia! Russia! Russia! narrative going. However, any Black! group like Uhura is by definition anti-American. There’s a Communist Party USA too. That party* has got every right to be organize, as this is not France, for example, or Germany.

    Yet, if any member of the CPUSA or some Black Power! Party is a foreigner, not a citizen, he needs to be sent home.

    Is this too muddy? Maybe you should clear out the mud from your brain before reading.

    .

    * How about a pro-White Party, Greta, should they be allowed to organize? They haven’t been, but if anyone’s gonna fight this suppresssion of free speech and assembly, guess who the guy might be? (Hint, his hair used to be orange.)

  729. @James B. Shearer

    Do you always ask questions *this* f#cking stupid?

  730. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Putin almost seemed to supply the cure – the start of the “Special Military Operation” knocked Covid off the front page and then off the other pages as well…

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  731. @Mike Tre

    Let me explain this, Mike. Greta is miffed at the iSteve crowd (the treehouse, etc, haven’t heard “OK, Boomers” yet) because it is not like most of the rest of the UR commenter crowd. The articles, as you may see right now, going back to the home page to see more graphics and bigger headlines, are almost NEVER pro-American. I don’t mean the Potomac Regime, as “America”. Most of us have a problem with the Feral Gov’t too.

    Everything on the site besides (formerly) Steve Sailer and John Derbyshire, (formerly) syndicated columnists Pat Buchanan and Michelle Malkin, Ron Paul (still here) is articles that are basically against the existence of America. There is nary a good word said for the American people either. That’s Mr. Unz’s business.

    There are detractors in the comments to this anti-all-things-American on this site, but there is a big crowd that goes along. The personnel on the iSteve threads are a big exception. Many of us remember the good things America was and even the good that is still left. Greta here is not happy about reading any of that. He doesn’t fit in.

    So, Greta, Keep on Truckin’ Bitchin’!

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  732. @Mike Tre

    Why are you such an advocate for foreign people to be in this country? False premise. But you can bring me something I’ve written to explain, elaborate, or renounce for you.

    Are you of white/European descent? Yes. (Answered reluctantly, because that’s been such an intoxicating, toxic distraction around here, particularly in the HBD tree fort. See your preceding question, for instance.)

    If the US is a shithole as you agreed with, why are you here? This is my home. I’m not about to give it up, especially when the Establishment looks to be losing its grip over us.

    Why don’t you go to Palestine? There’s more than enough Levantine cuisine and culture here to satisfy me. And it’s currently a genocidal war zone.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Mike Tre
  733. @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, I forgot Jared Taylor, Greg Hood, and Paul Kersey. Sorry guys! Andrew Anglin, if he’ll write some more, is a bit juvenile, but I generaly agree with him too.

  734. @Achmed E. Newman

    How about a pro-White Party, Greta, should they be allowed to organize? Yes.

    They haven’t been, but if anyone’s gonna fight this suppresssion of free speech and assembly, guess who the guy might be? (Hint, his hair used to be orange.) That’s not a probative question. But as he might put it, lemme tell you something, sorry, but you’re one dumb bunny.

  735. Moshe Def says:
    @Jack D

    >You were always going to twist this.
    To be fair to AD et al, you are kind of a walking, talking Slur, Shibboleth, Canard, and Blood Libel

    • Replies: @Jack D
  736. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hopefully, you’re done shticking to me like an adolescent gnat. Anyway,

    Do you only visit Unz.com? No.

    An internet search for “Greta Handel” only finds comments from that handle on Unz. I’ve explained many times why I adopted my pseudonym here. But I scarcely comment on others because, if they allow comments at all, those publications don’t come close to TUR’s breadth, Mr. Unz’s “very light moderation,” and this robust software we’re provided.

    Why do you confine your reading to the Unz tree fort, Greta? Again, I don’t. You can look over my archive for material by writers like C. J. Hopkins I’ve brought back here.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  737. Jack D says:
    @Moshe Def

    To be fair, you are kind of a walking, talking antisemite.

    • Replies: @Moshe Def
    , @J.Ross
  738. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hail

    The Trump 2.0 administration appears to be totally in the hip pocket of Israel and the Israeli lobby. So much so that it is now gearing up for a massive attack on Iran – an act that would likely land us in a disastrous new war in the Mideast, which would be a negation of a key plank that Trump 1.0 ran on back in 2016.

    This is not in the best interests of the American people. It has, in fact, nothing to do with their interests at all. This is being done entirely for a foreign country and it’s supporters here in the U.S.

    As far as the FOX “contributors” who now staff the current administration go, their jobs have not changed. They were shills and propagandists while they were on-air talent at FOX, and they remain shills and propagandists now that they are on-air talent at the US Government.

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Moshe Def
  739. Mark G. says:
    @Wielgus

    “the special military operation knocked Covid off the front page”

    That may have been partly intentional. We must stop the evil Putin because he is the new Hitler out to conquer the world!

    It was around that time you started seeing large numbers of already vaccinated people getting Covid. We mandated Covid shots to stop disease transmission but they turned out not to stop disease transmission. Also, don’t forget they were hastily approved so we were mandating vaccines where there were no studies of what the long term effects of them might be. Information was also starting to come out that the government was engaging in behind the scenes censorship of information related to the vaccines while spreading misinformation itself. FDA: Ivermectin is for horses!

    Rather than talk about any of this, though, we switched over to talking about the evil Putin, the new Hitler out to conquer the world!

  740. Mr. Anon says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Tektronix: A once great company that sold itself piecemeal to China. MBAs ruined this country economically.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  741. Moshe Def says:
    @Old Prude

    >Hoarding is not an exclusively female problem. My brother in law is the worst hoarder
    Dudes aren’t hoarding, it is part of an unfinished or future DIY project

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  742. @Moshe Def

    “part of an unfinished or future DIY project”

    My wife gave me a card featuring a guy saying:

    “Look, I said I would get the job done, and I’m going to get the job done. There’s really no need to remind me about it every six months!”

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  743. Moshe Def says:
    @Jack D

    I don’t think you’re being fair, though.
    Just here on isteve, I think Kaganovitch is great
    Hell, outside of here, I bet I could name at least 5 more

    • Replies: @Jack D
  744. @Achmed E. Newman

    – I honestly don’t care about this Rumeysa chick – she wrote some pro-Palestinian missive or whatever. I already wrote above that, yes, this is targeted for reasons we all know. However, it’s no assault on the free speech of Americans.

    Rumeysa is a Sunni. EVERYWHERE Sunnis gain political power, they criminalize teaching Christianity to Muslims. How long before we see similar anti Christian laws in Western Europe or even Minnesota, if it hasn’t already happened?

    The people who complain that Jews are flooding western countries with Muslims to weaken white Christian nationalism are the same ones angry that Jews are now deporting Muslims. Take the win. This woman is not our ally.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  745. Jack D says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    So the original argument behind the SAT was that is was going to be a tool to replace the hereditary elite who were attending top colleges with a meritocratic elite. But it turned out that the new “meritocratic” elites were (at least a lot of them) IYI’s – Intelligent Yet Idiot so maybe not really an improvement on the old elite. They had knowledge but not wisdom.

    But wait, it gets worse. The new meritocratic elite were “lacking in diversity” (cough not enough blacks) so the SAT had to be dumbed down or completely discarded and people selected according to new “antiracist” criteria. If you didn’t like the pointy headed meritocratic (cough Jewish) intellectuals then wait ’til you get a load of Tanahesi Coates – instead of Intelligent Yet Idiot you get Idiot Yet Idiot.

    This is like what happened in the Dark Ages when the learned rejected the Greek teaching that hysteria was caused by the uterus wandering around the female body. Why obviously that doesn’t happen – everyone nowadays (1200) knows that hysteria is cause by demonic possession. Things go from bad to worse.

    So where does this leave us? Trump has made clear that he favors a return to meritocracy. I don’t think it is going to be possible (or desirable) to reconstruct the old American (or any new) hereditary aristocracy. DEI was clearly a bad idea. So it may be that the SAT is like what Churchill said about democracy – the worst possible system, except for all the others.

  746. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Trump has made it clear that he prefers negotiation with Iran to war. However, in order to get the best possible deal from Iran, it is necessary to poise the Sword of Damocles over their heads. Biden got nowhere with them because he was incapable of doing this. “If you fail to give up your nuclear weapons research, we will WRITE YOU A STERNLY WORDED LETTER”. Yeah, that’s not gonna work.

    The #1 slogan of the Iranian ayatollahs is “Death to America”. Death to Israel is only #2 on their list. People here are so concerned that a Jew might somehow benefit that they are opposed to actions that are in the direct interest of the US. A nuclear armed Iran is not in the American interest.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  747. @Jack D

    Criticism is OK but considering the Jews to be the root of all evil is not.

    Except you react like Pavlov’s dog any time Jews are criticized, so this sentence is yet another of your endless lies. Also nobody wrote “Jews to be the root of all evil” except you. Chalk up another lie.

    The whole notion of “anti-semitism” is ludicrous Yack. FFS you are what, 2% of the population? If people even notice you that’s because of you. If people notice you and don’t like you? Maybe you should try to fit in a little better.

    That said, I realize you have zero self-awareness.

  748. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    One day you’ll define that word.

  749. @Sam Hildebrand

    Admitting that I haven’t followed the affair closely- I would say you are wrong (not in characterization of Muslims).

    This Turkish student wrote some pro-Palestinian piece in some local paper (or something similar). As far as I know-this is not against your laws. She’s absolutely free to root for Palestinians- and I would add a provocative part- and Hamas (as some people advocate IRA, Hindu nationalism, and white nationalism).

    It’s either free or not free. Never mind what I think of her & her views.

    And somewhere else in this thread I read that foreign students are “stealing places” from locals. In the US- foreign students make up 6% of all students, the vast majority of them being Indians and Chinese. In the UK, in comparison- they are 25%.

    In Harvard, foreigners are 25%; Oxford- 50% (perhaps mostly post-graduate).

    So:

    1. this Turkish woman is, in all probability,  emotionally an enemy of the Western civilization. But- so what?

    2. she is studying some marginal topic

    3. she didn’t break any law. Especially re the controversial topic like the war in Gaza- people differ in their positions. And they are free to voice their opinion- in a normal, democratic country.

    4. If someone thinks that she, as she is, is some demographic, civilizational or security threat to the US- he should have his head examined.

    For an indifferent observer-  this entire affair leaves the impression that Trump’s administration & the whole ruling US elites are truly in Israel’s pocket. And not just Israel’s – extremist Israel’s.

    This all reminds me of that old Voltaire’s sayings about free speech….

  750. Hail says: • Website
    @MEH 0910

    This is Steve Sailer‘s twenty-word summary of his latest Taki article:

    The Fundamental Problem with Nationalism

    With his annexation bluster, Trump is alienating the Canadian patriots we most want for our friends.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 09, 2025

    https://www.takimag.com/article/o-canada/
    https://archive.is/oZL5n

    Sailer uses the phrase “stupid spat” to summarize Trump’s bullying of Canada and the constant torrent of insults. He says:

    aggressive American nationalism, such as Trump’s talk about “annexing” Canada as the 51st state, annoys the Canadians we most want to be our friends

    A main problem the commenters have with his article is that Steve is being loose with terminology:

    Imperialism is not nationalism, is it? Imperialism is surely not just “super-nationalism.” Conceptually they need to be differentiated, to justify their being separate words.

    Avoiding unaided uses of the term “nationalism” in these kinds of discussions is helpful. Always qualify what “nationalism” is meant. Hence why terms like “ethnonationalism” were proposed, and many other variants. The Blumpfian buffoonish blustering bullying has nothing to do with some sort of ethnocultural-ethnonational rivalry, as with the many attempts by Quebec to secede over the generations.

    SteveSailer-Dot-Net commenter Grand Mal Twerkin writes, in this vein, helpfully:

    A nation is a people, not a state, so nationalism isn’t defined by borders, ironically. The Quebecois are a nation, inside and outside of Quebec Province, within the Canadian state[.]

    The Trump-II supposedly-less-serious annexation-threat (against Canada; to say nothing of Gaza and Panama) is buttressed by the evidently-more-serious encirclement threat inherent in the Blumpfian-imperial Greenland Grab plan. But how are any of these expressions of nationalism?

    Another useful word here: “Expansionism.” There are plenty of non-expansionist nationalisms. There are many forms of expansionism, for that matter.

    The concept of Soft Power is unknown to Trump-II, apparently. Likewise to his master-strategic geniuses recruited from the best of the best Fox News has to offer, who insult allies and friends with great gusto.

    AnotherDad says:

    [T]his isn’t really “the fundamental problem with nationalism” it is the fundamental problem with Trump. […]

    Trump is that he basically is a real-estate imperialist. He’s spend his career acquiring and building. He’s not a maintenance guy, success is seeing some new hotel or casino or luxury apartment spring into existence at his whim. Coupled with his narcissism, really “winning” and leaving his mark would be making the USA not “better for Americans”, but “bigger”–changing the map.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/the-fundamental-problem-with-nationalism/comments

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  751. Hail says: • Website
    @Greta Handel

    the Establishment looks to be losing its grip over us.

    What does this phrase, “the Establishment,” mean? What specifically do you have in mind when you think or say or write this word?

    What do you want to replace this Establishment with? Not, I assume, a set of Fox News hosts a different set than the one in now) or others with comparable traits.

    Demagoguery, while an interesting skill, seldom if ever translates into good government.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  752. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer has had a high opinion of the U.S. “Advanced Placement” (AP) high-school classes — and their exams (which, if passed, count as college-course credit).

    He is aggrieved at the moves, emerging from the peak-Wokeness era, to make AP exams “easier.” (It’s in the name of multi-racialist justice.) Here:

    WHY ARE AP TESTS BEING MADE EASIER?

    Beginning in 2022, the College Board has been grade-inflating scoring of its Advanced Placement exams.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 09, 2025

    ____________

    The Advanced Placement (or AP) test is probably the best college admission test that isn’t used for college admissions. If you are going to test prep in the modern mode, while you are being Tiger Mothered, you might as well learn some chemistry or European history.

    Still, the AP is used for other sensible things like getting out of a final semester or a year of expensive college tuition.

    So, while the AP test appears to be not broken, the College Board appears intent on breaking it.

    America has endless self-created problems over the existence of racial gaps. For example, you might not be shocked to learn from the College Board’s report “Understanding Racial/Ethnic Gaps in AP® Exam Performance” that:

    Like other measures, student performance on AP® Exams also reveals gaps by race and ethnicity. Average scores (on the 1-5 AP scale) across all 2022 AP Exams, for example, are lower among Black (2.1) and Hispanic students (2.4) than among White students (3.0) and Asian students (3.4).

    In the U.S., high schools students take millions of Advanced Placement tests each May. These are scored from one to five with a five representing an A on an introductory course at a routine college, a 4 a B, a 3 a C, a 2 a D, and a 1 an F.

    Here’s a graph I made from data in that 2023 College Board report of what percentage of each race score at least a 3 on the top 10 most AP test:

    [Paywall.]

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/why-are-ap-tests-being-made-easier

  753. epebble says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    she didn’t break any law.

    Looks like she did ‘break’ something retroactively.

    U.S. says it is now monitoring immigrants’ social media for antisemitism
    U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services has announced it will begin screening immigrant’s social media for evidence of antisemitic activity as grounds for denying immigration benefit requests. The screenings will affect people applying for permanent residence status, and foreigners affiliated with educational institutions. The policy will go into effect immediately.

    https://www.npr.org/2025/04/09/g-s1-59149/immigrants-social-media-antisemitism-dhs

    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
    , @Corvinus
  754. Moshe Def says:
    @Mr. Anon

    >The Trump 2.0 administration appears to be totally in the hip pocket of Israel and the Israeli lobby.
    Baby steps, but his meeting with Bibi the other day was not like that, especially the subtext.

  755. @epebble

    U.S. says it is now monitoring immigrants’ social media for antisemitism

    Which will result in less Muslims in the country, which is positive. I don’t care what metric is used to limit islam’s spread in the US, in fact lactose intolerance would make a good disqualification for entrance into the country.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  756. Jack D says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    One enemy of the Western civilization who is here studying some marginal topic is (usually) harmless by him or herself (except when he is not – see Mohammed Atta) but a million of them are not so harmless.

    By your own admission, this lady was an enemy of the West, not just Israel. To Muslims, hatred of Israel and hatred of the West are two sides of the same coin. Just because getting rid of her would be helpful to Israel is not a reason not to do it. Even if Israel did not exist (God forbid) the Moslem world would have good and sufficient reasons for hating the West and West has good and sufficient reasons for not wanting Muslim haters in their midst. When the Ottomans attacked Vienna, Israel was not yet a glint in anyone’s eyes. When the Barbary corsairs led attacks upon American merchant shipping, Herzl wasn’t even born yet.

  757. @Greta Handel

    Hopefully, you’re done shticking to me like an adolescent gnat.

    LOL. Babe, you shtuck yourself to me by initiating here:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7062584

    … and separately here:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7062629

    You’re obviously attracted to what I have to say, since you addressed me first (twice) and keep replying. You just can’t help yourself. 🙂

    You can look over my archive for material by writers like C. J. Hopkins I’ve brought back here.

    Likewise, you can look over my archive for plenty of cited material (written and otherwise) from outside of iSteve. Apparently you were just being a twat by asking why I only read iSteve.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  758. Jack D says:
    @Moshe Def

    There are basically two groups that concern themselves about Jews. One is Jews themselves and the other is anti-Semites. No one else cares, especially not to the point of calling themselves “Moshe” on the internet.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Moshe Def
  759. @Hail

    What does this phrase, “the Establishment,” mean? What specifically do you have in mind when you think or say or write this word?

    Nothing cryptic — how it conventionally describes itself will do:

    Wikipedia: In sociology and in political science, the term “the establishment” describes the dominant social group, the elite who control a polity, an organization, or an institution. In the praxis of wealth and power, the Establishment usually is a self-selecting, closed elite entrenched within specific institutions — hence, a relatively small social class can exercise all socio-political control.

    In addition to the concise convenience, it helps prevent a discussion about something like free speech principles being dragged over into the distract/divide/conquer weeds.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  760. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Well, at least I gave this another try and showed you how intellectually honest people answer straightforward questions.

    Buzz off, please.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  761. Mark G. says:
    @Jack D

    “So it may be that the SAT is like what Churchill said about democracy-the worst possible system, except for all the others.”

    Yes, the SAT is probably the best method. However, we need to radically reduce the number of young people going to college and have more of them going to trade schools, entering apprenticeship programs or starting up small businesses. Instead of spending money on a college degree, a young person could put the money towards starting a small business or a down payment on a house.

    For many, college just ends up meaning carrying around a student loan debt they will never pay off. Four years of woke propaganda also creates more Democrat voters. Fewer college students also means fewer leftist professors. Even in cases where the professors are not leftists, they are often just turning out graduates who can only teach the same subject to future students. It has no utility in the outside world. You can get the same education by going to the library and save a whole bunch of money.

  762. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    … so Christian Zionists are antisemites unless they convert?

  763. @Bardon Kaldian

    (1) Send her home
    (2) Send her home
    (3) No she didn’t. You don’t have to break any laws to be sent home. Send her home.
    (4) No, she’s not. Also, she’s of no benefit to the USA. Send her home.

    Yeah, you’re an indifferent observer, because you don’t live here. If I live in your country – what’s it, The Ukraine? – and I’m studying Underwater Basketweaving there, doing a post-doc, in fact, using facilities paid for by Ukrainian taxpayers, and I write some pro-Russian, pro-UK, whatever, letter, and it turns out after someone looked into my visa that I’m really of no benefit to The Ukraine, I wouldn’t have any argument really if they SENT! ME! HOME!.

    What’s is so hard about this to understand?.

    • Agree: muggles, Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Brutusale
  764. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    When the Ottomans attacked Vienna, Israel was not yet a glint in anyone’s eyes.

    Nice needlethreading. When the Muslims attacked Toledo, the Jews were not a glint in anyone’s eyes, because you can’t open the gates if people see you.

  765. @Mr. Anon

    I’ve used their older and their more modern scopes over the years. Great stuff. I cannot claim that the tariffs, if bringing manufacturing home, will result in quality goods anymore. Competence is down in the dumps.

    There was a pretty good debate between Peter Schiff and Spencer Morrison on the tariffs on ZeroHedge yesterday, but I jumped on in the middle. Peter Schiff says there no going back to having good American workers. I don’t know. I can’t say there are many big pockets of quality left in the whole world either.

    I got a car battery charger only 6 months ago with a few LEDs to tell me what’s going on. I can’t trust the damn charger any more than I can this car battery. It’s all junk anymore…

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  766. @Greta Handel

    showed you how intellectually honest people answer straightforward questions

    Sure, sure… You were unwilling to quote your own alluded-to source until I dragged it out of you. Greta, the paragon of “honest” and “straightforward”, hahahaha :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7067985 (and previous)

    Buzz off, please.

    You’re free to leave the “HBD tree fort”, as you disparagingly put it, any time you want. No one is forcing you to be here. You shouldn’t have engaged me if you (claim you) don’t want my attention. But you keep replying, so your preference reveals otherwise. I’m happy to oblige, m’lady.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  767. @Sam Hildebrand

    Less Muslims is OK for any country.

    But, you are well aware that it is impossible to deal with them in such a way. The US is deeply connected with Saudi Arabia, Qatar,..& a bunch of extremist Islamist societies.

    Just- they have money.

    This hijab nut who will leave upon finishing her dumb studies is no threat to American society.

    And as far antisemitism label goes- Trumpian/AIPAC definition of antisemitism is so ridiculous & absurd that 2/3 of the world could be considered antisemitic.

    Heck, according to them I would qualify as a hard-core antisemite.

    • Replies: @muggles
    , @Mike Tre
    , @epebble
  768. @Bardon Kaldian

    And somewhere else in this thread I read that foreign students are “stealing places” from locals. In the US- foreign students make up 6% of all students, the vast majority of them being Indians and Chinese. In the UK, in comparison- they are 25%.

    Yeah, because that includes all students, meaning mostly undergrads, who are there for the social life and will mostly end up at the same Starbucks jobs they had when they started, 4-5 years and $80,000 earlier.

    As for the grad students in fields that matter, look here (from ’21):

    A new report on international student enrollment in U.S. graduate programs in science, technology, engineering and mathematics fields finds that foreign nationals account for 82 percent of full-time graduate students in petroleum engineering, 74 percent in electrical engineering, 72 percent in computer and information sciences, 71 percent in industrial and manufacturing engineering, 70 percent in statistics, 67 percent in economics, 61 percent in civil engineering, 58 percent in mechanical engineering and agricultural economics, 56 percent in mathematics, 54 percent in chemical engineering, 53 percent in metallurgical and materials engineering, 52 percent in materials sciences, and 50 percent in pharmaceutical sciences.

    Oh, and I read this Elon- Muskesque BS next:

    “At many U.S. universities, the data show it would be difficult to maintain important graduate programs without international students,” says the report from the National Foundation for American Policy, a research organization focused on trade and immigration issues. “In electrical engineering, the majority of full-time graduate students (master’s and Ph.D.’s) are international students at 88 percent of the U.S. graduate school programs with at least 30 students, or 149 U.S. universities total. In computer and information sciences, the majority of full-time graduate students are international students at 211 universities, representing 78 percent of the U.S. graduate school programs with at least 30 students.”

    Yeah, there was no such time as 1990 and before… never happened! I’m sounding like Steve Sailer here (on different subjects), I know…

    I may notice different things than what Steve Sailer notices, but I keep my eyes open. American science and engineering grad schools are other countries … mostly 2 of them.

  769. @Hail

    Pfiser Steve is blatantly trolling viz US annexation of Canada: nobody with a near-perfect SAT score hence IQ supra 150 believes that.

    It’s fascinating how really blatant trolling is more effective than subtle trolling: I well remember Steve’s funniest almost subliminal UR trolls provoked nigh zero response whilst his most hamfisted trolling spun up the commentardiat rond chere something fierce to 500+ comments. The same holds true for our President, aka the Troll in Chief.

    Maybe Pfiser Steve decamped for Substack so he could bait a fresh set of suckers 🎣

  770. @Jack D

    This is simplistic.

    We- let’s call us Europeans- know that Muslims are enemies no. 1. All of them. Period.
    But the world we live in is complex, and we cannot behave like that. On one hand, flex muscles on some hijab nut who will leave after she finishes studies she paid for (or were paid for by others) & at the same time hop into bed with Qataris, Egyptians, Saudis, Pakistanis,…

    Give or take, not just all Muslims, but also all 3rd worlders hate Israel (except India for understandable reasons) & a bunch of Evangelicals in Latin America. China and Japan are completely indifferent, but that’s another story.

    In America and Europe, Muslims & Hindus are unassimilable aliens ( I won’t address Africans). For instance, Turks who live 50 years in Germany. Completely alien body. What does a Turk in German high school think when studying a curriculum that includes Goethe, Beethoven,…
    He has nothing to do with this.

    What about Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims,… in America? Or…even many blacks?

    All these games about some big love between Muslims & Jews are fake, we know it all.

    Jews are, plus perhaps some small groups like Zoroastrians, the only non-Christian group that has assimilated into European and American (both Americas) societies. They are Tom, Dick and Harry and learn about Hawthorne and Hemingway in school & are violin players.

    Sure, ultra-Orthodox are the exception, but I’m not talking about them. And they are in the minority.

    Others- I believe my eyes & what my mind has processed.

    Hamids and Viveks remain aliens. They don’t give a sh*t about Scott Fitzgerald or Orson Welles. Chinese, on the other hand, are a dominant minority. Unassimilable. Just look at them in Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines,…. They don’t dive a damn about America. Or Canada. They’re a plague in Vancouver. Some from these groups will engage in terrorist activities, but most won’t. Just- they’ll form parallel societies & will keep on dissolving white societies from within.

    One should be aware that all these types are aliens & potential enemies.

    But, at the same time- the US should remain a law abiding country. And this woman didn’t break any law. And she is not a part of some demographic avalanche- after finishing her studies, she’ll leave. For tons of destructive Arabs, Afghans & Somalis, thank G.W. Bush, Obama and their idiotic Middle Eastern wars.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Colin Wright
  771. Mark G. says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    In the news today, the song “Birds of a Feather” by the musical genius Billie Eilish spends its 35th straight week in the number one position on Billboard’s Hot Rock & Alternative songs chart. Only two songs have been on this chart longer.

    I am taking the afternoon off and am hanging out at the coffee shop. I’m drinking something like a coffee milkshake with peanut butter and bananas blended in. I bet Elvis would like this drink if he was still alive. I am hoping HA will pop up here and go into his Baghdad Bob routine telling everyone how the Ukraine is beating Russia. He can also tell us how the Kursk invasion was a brilliant plan to divert Russians from the eastern front rather than a bone headed move that left the Ukrainians as sitting ducks to be killed off by the Russians.

    Sitting in the coffee shop is certainly more enjoyable than working. Maybe I should retire and start collecting my pension.

  772. muggles says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This Turkish student wrote some pro-Palestinian piece in some local paper (or something similar). As far as I know-this is not against your laws.

    After all the chatter here about “foreign grad students” you seem to remain willfully ignorant.

    If she is a “foreign student visa” admittee to the US, she is here at the discretion of the US State Dept.

    That Department, under a new administration (have you noticed that?) has taken the stance that in response to recent pro Hamas demonstrations, riots, attacks on self-identified Jewish students, etc. that foreign student visa admittees who publicly proclaim support for US govt. described “terrorist organizations” are subject to having their visas revoked and thus, must go home.

    Wherever you are a citizen, I assume that government would take a similar position about a student visa holder doing much the same for their “terrorist group” advocacy.

    US citizens are free to say what they want, short of advocating violence.

    I might remind you and others that the Palestinian slogan “from the river to the sea” is a thinly disguised advocacy of “genocide” for Israelis. How else would they “reclaim” this territory otherwise. This isn’t a slogan for renewed negotiations, is it?

    Funny to see a Muslim woman student defending Muslim terrorists. Most Muslim nations (though not Türkiye) don’t permit women to pursue advanced graduate degrees at home. Some don’t even permit them university admission. Some, like Afghanistan, don’t permit them to learn to read.

    “Sauce for the goose but not for the gander.”

    • Agree: A123
    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  773. muggles says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This hijab nut who will leave upon finishing her dumb studies is no threat to American society.

    Let’s not overlook the fact that many, not all, of these foreign grad students are also or mainly looking for that “Mrs.” or “Mr.” degree from some hapless Americano.

    Few are candid about this, but in reading bios of “experts” or “researchers” from Woke and leftist blogs or publications, many are foreigners who married a US citizen (at least for a while). Thus allowed to remain here as a citizen.

    While nature can take its own course in these, more than a few are carefully planned out in advance.

    I would say it’s especially true of Third World/Muslim females, whose own domestic prospects are generally dim. These female students are smarter than average, after all.

    In conclusion, many of them are not in the “who will leave” category.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  774. Moshe Def says:
    @Jack D

    >One is Jews themselves and the other is anti-Semites.
    If you are an only two kinds of people guy, fair enough
    Sorry that I BTFO your million plus word catalog with a one line zinger
    U mad?

  775. Yeah, thanks so much Ron, I’m sure Sailer is really happy about you turning the ghost of his blog into a pretense for paper-thin Holocaust denial and other edgy theories. Dude, have a Gatorade and chill the fuck out. Absolutely degenerate.

  776. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “the commanding heights’ of 10% rather than 2% would be only reasonable. 50-80% is not.”

    Says who?

    “If nothing else, representation at such levels literally does make you responsible for our problems.”

    Big assumption there. Easy to scapegoat. But that’s your go to with Negroes, so the natural extension to is to also target Jews.

    “If I claim ‘the Jews’ were responsible for the massive and catastrophic influx of illegals during the Biden administration, you cannot gainsay that.”

    Of course we can, because you are making a false premise.

    “Do you actually want Jews to be in that position? Is that wise?”

    So would it be fair to say you want quotas? If so, how would that work? Better yet, what is your specific course of action to keep Jews out of those positions? You’re great at blaming, but now is the time for developing a realistic plan that even nornies can get on board.

    lIt’s a problem, and if you don’t want others to do something about it,”

    So what is this something you propose?

    “I agree, but it is also not okay to use accusations of antisemitism to intimidate and muzzle all discussion and analysis of what is going on.”

    Using your logic, it was not okay for your ancestors then, or you now, to use accusations of whites being “anti-white” (you and others have yet to clearly define this term, with examples) or whites being “race traitors” for not strictly adhering to a racial litmus test.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  777. @muggles

    This is bollocks.

    There are tons of liberal Jewish (American) journalists & TV host shows who are explicit about their opinion that Israel is a terrorist colonial enterprise & has no right to exist at all.

    And?

    Nothing.

    This Turkish woman advocates Palestinians cause & from what I read she wrote some general phrases about support & nothing else. Even “from the river to the sea” is for normal people completely irrelevant. This is a slogan & people shout slogans all the time, never mind what they “actually mean (who cares, the Inquisition is the thing of the past).

    American 100% pro-Israel policy will backfire, sooner or later. Israel may survive only if it achieves uneasy peace with unpleasant neighbors. It may even succeed in establishing greater Israel for some time- only to be erased by 500 million Arabs and Muslims in the not too distant future. They will not remain passive & paralyzed forever.

    Situation like this has no future:

    • Replies: @muggles
  778. @Corvinus

    So would it be fair to say you want quotas?

    That’s one solution. Or Jews could simply be barred from certain fields: media and the law, for example. Jews could be barred from accumulating vast wealth — say, nothing over 100 million dollars.

    I don’t like any of these solutions — but can anyone suggest anything better that is practicable? The current situation is clearly intolerable.

    We saw what we get when the Jews really get to be in charge: the Biden administration. Want to stick with that?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @J.Ross
    , @Jack D
  779. @muggles

    ‘…I would say it’s especially true of Third World/Muslim females, whose own domestic prospects are generally dim. These female students are smarter than average, after all.

    In conclusion, many of them are not in the “who will leave” category.’

    But by the same token, while nothing is guaranteed, those who marry Americans are more likely to assimilate and adopt the values and outlook of their spouse and new in-laws.

    …not that this is a reason to tolerate the trend, but yer basic future suicide bomber is less likely to follow this route.

  780. @Mark G.

    The Trident in Boulder was one of my hangouts:


    When I saw a couple at the next table reading an article I had written, discussing it, that was one of the best experiences I had as a writer. (I had interviewed a woman who worked in the phone sex business.)

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Mark G.
  781. @Jack D

    ‘…Even if Israel did not exist (God forbid) the Moslem world would have good and sufficient reasons for hating the West…’

    Would it?

    That’s an interesting question. Note that at the end of the Second World War, before there was an Israel, the United States was the most popular great power in the Arab World.

    How much hostility was there between the Islamic world and the United States — if not the West as a whole — prior to Israel? Rudolph Valentino and films such as Grass: a Nation’s Battle for Life suggest a decidedly romanticized but amiable attitude in the United States towards Islam — while on the other side of the coin, we were the one non-atheist, non-colonial great power going.

    So no Israel and no doubt there would still have been some conflict and some hostility — but there goes half the fuel. Would we still be butting heads with Iran in a world without Israel? I doubt it.

    No Lebanon barracks bombing, no 9/11, no Afghanistan, no Iraq War, no US troops in Syria…of course the Millenium wouldn’t have arrived absent Israel, but it would indubitably be a more amiable world.

    …and we’d be ahead by several trillion dollars. I could probably have a boat!

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  782. @Buzz Mohawk

    I should add that the place hasn’t changed at all. I was there last summer with my wife, and it was exactly the same, right down to the pictures on the wall. Manet’s Barmaid is still behind the barista.

    The place was there long before Starbucks came to town, or to any other town.

  783. @Colin Wright

    Jack is doing one of his usual things, making excuses for Israel. I’ve made this point before, that if not for the stupid, bone-headed, nutty, insane project called “Israel,” we Americans would have been free of a whole lot of agita, expense, terrorism and restrictions on our liberty.

    Jack sez, “Even if Israel did not exist (God forbid) the Moslem world would have good and sufficient reasons for hating the West…”

    Okay, that’s like saying, “Even I hadn’t poked my shitty little stick into that hornet’s nest over there, those hornets would still not like you.”

    You know, it’s fucking stupid and disingenuous what Zionist apologists tell us in their efforts to deflect our minds and our discourse from the fucking pain in the ass that is Israel.

    We can deal with the Arabs and their sand and their oil all by ourselves, thank you very much.

  784. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    ” False premise. But you can bring me something I’ve written to explain, elaborate, or renounce for you.”

    Really, so you’re advocating for these Palestinian/Turkish agitators is a coincidence? I don’t recall you ever advocating for the imprisoned J6 white American citizens; muh free speech and all. Funny, that.

    “Yes. (Answered reluctantly, because that’s been such an intoxicating, toxic distraction”

    Wrong. Racial/ethnic heritage and loyalty are the number one fundamental necessity for creating/maintaining a functioning nation. Not “fee speech absolutism” or whatever. Why are you reluctant to share your racial background? Ashamed?

    “This is my home. I’m not about to give it up,” You’re confused. By advocating for foreign people to remain here, you are literally advocating your own replacement.

    “And it’s currently a genocidal war zone. ”

    The same could be said of the US actually. You’re either in denial or not equipped to understand that.

  785. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “That’s one solution”

    Wait, so no quotas for minorities in employment, education, and specifically federal jobs, but yes to quotas for Jews. Got it.

    But…you offer no realistic plan. You might as well demand that the rights of (white) women ought to be restricted as well. That will show those bitches AlmostMissouri and GretaHandel who is boss!

    “Or Jews could simply be barred from certain fields: media and the law, for example. Jews could be barred from accumulating vast wealth — say, nothing over 100 million dollars.”

    Again, no realistic plan on your part. Just punching at waterfalls.

    “I don’t like any of these solutions — but can anyone suggest anything better that is practicable?”

    That’s your job. Figure out a final solution.

    “The current situation is clearly intolerable.”

    Would normies generally say the Joos are primarily to blame?

    “We saw what we get when the Jews really get to be in charge: the Biden administration.”

    Even more so with Trump. You’re forgetting Stephen Miller is wielding his yamaka like Oddjob with his bowler hat!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Moshe Def
  786. ‘You know, it’s fucking stupid and disingenuous what Zionist apologists tell us in their efforts to deflect our minds and our discourse from the fucking pain in the ass that is Israel.’

    Happily, the polls imply that Israel really has gone too far now. It doesn’t matter how much you pay a Congressman; he won’t come out for child molestation. If Americans don’t like Israel, it’s adios Israel.

    In fact, obviously I’m fighting to the last Palestinian, but it would be best if Israel didn’t pull in her horns. She should get even tougher! No more Mister Nice Guy! Really rub Joe Sicspak’s snout in what she is. Slap around some priests! Find an orphanage and napalm it.

    …well, okay. She does that already. But more of it! With footage!

  787. Mike Tre says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “This hijab nut who will leave upon finishing her dumb studies is no threat to American society.”

    If she has a functional uterus then she is a threat.

  788. Corvinus says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “We- let’s call us Europeans- know that Muslims are enemies no. 1. All of them. Period.”

    Yes, YOU do.

    “Give or take, not just all Muslims, but also all 3rd worlders hate Israel (except India for understandable reasons) & a bunch of Evangelicals in Latin America.”

    Project much?

    “In America and Europe, Muslims & Hindus** are unassimilable aliens ( I won’t address Africans).”

    JD Vance** would beg to differ.

    “For instance, Turks who live 50 years in Germany. Completely alien body.”

    It’s more nuanced and complicated that you care to admit.

    https://www.dandc.eu/en/article/people-germany-turkish-roots-have-identity-problems-situation-fuelled-turkish-president

    “All these games about some big love between Muslims & Jews are fake, we know it all.”

    Who is this “we”?

    “Others- I believe my eyes & what my mind has processed”

    You mean you are a slave to confirmation bias.

    “Chinese, on the other hand, are a dominant minority. Unassimilable.”

    John Derbyshire and Mitch McConnell say otherwise.

  789. Corvinus says:
    @Mike Tre

    “Racial/ethnic heritage and loyalty are the number one fundamental necessity for creating/maintaining a functioning nation.”

    The problem here is that you are unilaterally creating a racial litmus test, one that ultimately strives to take away a white person’s liberty to make their own decisions about race and culture. It’s rooted in authoritarianism. No thank you.

    My vague impression is that your anger is similar to that of The Anti-Gnostic, who no longer comments here. Too bad. Anyways, on his now shuttered blog from quite some time ago, he let it slip his daughter did some coal burning. His wife, a school teacher, apparently helps out with raising the “niglet” (as he affectionately calls mixed children—what a guy!). He washed his hands of the situation. I imagine his heavy handed ways with his daughter backfired in the end.

    Perhaps you are in a similar situation and hence your bitterness?

    “Not “fee speech absolutism” or whatever.”

    In your opinion.

  790. @Mike Tre

    Really, so you’re advocating for these Palestinian/Turkish agitators is a coincidence?

    You’re wrong. (And “you’re” wrong.) Show me something that I’ve written.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  791. Mark G. says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “The Trident in Boulder was one of my hangouts.”

    Boulder, Colorado? I spent a summer as a child in 1965 living there while my father took geology classes there at the university while he was working on a masters degree.

    I really only remember three things from my childhood sojourn in Boulder. First, Boulder had a lot fewer Blacks than my hometown of Indianapolis. Second, waking up in the morning and looking out my bedroom window and seeing a mountain. Third, drinking a limeade in a restaurant, my first experience with that beverage. I really liked it and still do.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  792. @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘…Jews are, plus perhaps some small groups like Zoroastrians, the only non-Christian group that has assimilated into European and American (both Americas) societies..’.

    ‘Assimilation’ isn’t the term I would employ. In fact, the notion that — at least as far as the United States goes — Muslims are a greater threat than Jews is absurd.

    Witness right now. How hard would it be to expel Muslims? How hard would it be to expel Jews? Which did more damage? 9/11 — or the Biden Administration?

  793. J.Ross says:
    @Colin Wright

    It is true that the Biden administration represented a sort of hilarious need to assume direct control, but the examples of Stephen Miller etc show that there’s Jews and then there’s Jews. As the dialogue in White Hunter, Black Heart reminds, it is the “antisemite” who wants to distinguish between Jews (insidiously enough, to judge on merit), and it is Jews such as Jack D who want to lump in one category, “Israel is one.”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  794. @Corvinus

    ‘Wait, so no quotas for ‘minorities in employment, education, and specifically federal jobs, but yes to quotas for Jews. Got it.

    There you go. But who are you quoting?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  795. Moshe Def says:
    @Corvinus

    > Figure out a final solution.
    Based
    Yall know Corvy is just a contrarian ubertroll, right?
    Probably Steve’s boy

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  796. @Buzz Mohawk

    We can deal with the Arabs and their sand and their oil all by ourselves, thank you very much.

    From 1948 until at least 1988 one of the top justifications for supporting them was they were a forward monitor on those untrustworthy Arab oil guys. Since then they hardly bother with justifying themselves to the likes of you and I. We so do not count.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  797. @Mark G.

    ‘…the special military operation knocked Covid off the front page”

    That may have been partly intentional. We must stop the evil Putin because he is the new Hitler out to conquer the world!’

    If it wasn’t entirely intentional, it may have been congenial. The Biden administration found itself coming up on its first State of the Union Address without much appetizing to discuss. Encouragement of illegal immigration? Rapidly escalating inflation? A questionable election? A transparently senile president? And now a ‘war on Covid’ that clearly was going to only become less popular?

    Bait Russia! Get her to invade the Ukraine! After all, it was easily done — and it gave Biden something to sound presidential about. Remember all those Ukrainian flag pins? Did they make those things up ahead of time?

  798. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    LOL yeah the last refuge of a lost argument is to go after typos. You’re a clown.

    “Show me something that I’ve written. ”

    Thanks for conceding. You lose.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  799. @Mike Tre

    I don’t recall you ever advocating for the imprisoned J6 white American citizens; muh free speech and all. Funny, that.

    The joke’s on you. Here, for example, is a typically squishy Sailer post that both of us found wanting; you posted Agree to the same comment that I supported in a reply. https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-13th-day-of-christmas/
    Put “temple” into a Search of my archive, and you’ll find other expressions of sympathy for those set up and betrayed by …

    Oh, wait, that doesn’t even matter unless I go raging, full bore asshole about foreigners, does it?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  800. Corvinus says:
    @epebble

    “for evidence of antisemitic activity as grounds for denying immigration benefit requests.”

    So the Trump Administration led by Stephen Miller is taking the Uncle Leo approach. Nothing wrong with just making unfounded accusations, right? RIGHT?

  801. @Mike Tre

    All in fun, Mike. I remain willing to defend my actual views.

    But isn’t the last refuge declaring yourself winner of a debate? Your tag team partner likes that one, too.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  802. Corvinus says:
    @Moshe Def

    At least Colin is trying to offer a modicum of substance, compared to your intellectual sterility. No wonder why Mr. Sailer nuked your “commentary”.

    • Troll: Moshe Def
  803. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “There you go. But who are you quoting?

    Stop playing dumb. You oppose racial quotas by the government and businesses for minorities. Yet you seek a Jew quota in education, medicine, and law. But you don’t have a realistic plan. Hypocrisy abounds. Hilarity ensues.

    “Assimilation’ isn’t the term I would employ.”

    Of course you would say that. But it is the correct word to use.

    “In fact, the notion that — at least as far as the United States goes — Muslims are a greater threat than Jews is absurd.”

    Bulls—-. In your world, browns and blacks and Jews are threats on an equal level.

    “Witness right now. How hard would it be to expel Muslims? How hard would it be to expel Jews?”

    It wouldn’t be hard at all. Not according to the rhetoric by AnotherDad and The Anti-Gnostic. Get your gun. Form citizen vigilante groups. Round up the “enemy”. All it takes is a few white patriots to grease the skids.

    That’s what your southern ancestors did when those uppity, lippy Negroes got out of line.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  804. @Mark G.

    I am taking the afternoon off and am hanging out at the coffee shop. I’m drinking something like a coffee milkshake with peanut butter and bananas blended in. I bet Elvis would like this drink if he was still alive.

    Sitting in the coffee shop is certainly more enjoyable than working.

    Sounds like a pretty good day, Mark. Spend your time wisely, which means enjoyably. Get those Eilish tickets if you haven’t already.

    Maybe I should retire and start collecting my pension.

    JIE
    “You’ve got plenty put away, T-bonds, real estate—if I were you I would be smart, I would cut loosa this.”

    Mark G.
    “Well ya know… for me, the action is the juice.”

    Val Kilmer
    “Memento mori, guys.”

  805. @Mark G.

    “That would help in the case of higher level government jobs. In the case of lower level jobs, though, we can’t go back to the seventies.”

    It would help for lower level jobs too. There are differences among the people who apply. Some will make better employees than others even if none of them are ideal. The government should be trying to hire the better ones.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  806. @Corvinus

    “There you go. But who are you quoting?

    Stop playing dumb…

    So reference the quote. Arguing with you reminds me of my twelve year-old daughter intellectually humiliating my five year old son.

    ‘Look. Lydia…’

    Happily, I can overcome my moral scruples on this score. You just keep stepping up to the plate…

    The only thing lacking to make this perfect would for you to be a real big Israel fan.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  807. @Hail

    I voted for Trump (look at the alternative, for Christ’s sake) with eyes wide open. But I have to admit I am surprised and disappointed at this pointless, stupid bluster about annexing Canada and Greenland. All it does is needlessly antagonize potential allies. I don’t understand it.

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  808. @J.Ross

    It is true that the Biden administration represented a sort of hilarious need to assume direct control, but the examples of Stephen Miller etc show that there’s Jews and then there’s Jews. As the dialogue in White Hunter, Black Heart reminds, it is the “antisemite” who wants to distinguish between Jews (insidiously enough, to judge on merit), and it is Jews such as Jack D who want to lump in one category, “Israel is one.”

    The pity of it is the need for skepticism and the consideration of motives. One finds oneself simply unwilling to take a Jew’s apparent allegiance on good faith. For example, is Norm Finkelstein really opposed to the Satanic Entity — or merely a compulsive contrarian? See his sudden denunciation of Boycott, Divest, Sanction if you have any doubts on this score.

    Ben Shapiro is another good example. I never trusted him — but how many did? And of course there are swine like Max Boot, Jeffrey Goldberg, Bret Stephens…

    Jennifer Rubin, David Brooks, William Kristol…

    You can never believe them. So often, they’re trying to play you. Should I actually trust the good Bernie? What about Jill Stein?

    One finds oneself resorting to a good, tried ‘n true — albeit decidedly unpalatable — rule…

  809. epebble says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I can’t decipher that graph. But an interesting thing that forced POTUS to grow up very quickly today was:

    Fox Business correspondent: Trump didn’t outsmart the world, the bond market forced his hand

    Charlie Gasparino on Trump’s pausing some tariffs: “I want to tell you right now that Donald Trump outsmarted the world. Trust me. I’m an American, I support my president. But that’s not really what happened.”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/tariffs-trade/fox-business-correspondent-trump-didnt-outsmart-world-bond-market-forced-his-hand

    My guess is, from now onwards, the long bond market will be the grown up in the house. As is the case in all households that have maxed out their credit. A similar tantrum, say 90 days from now, will be more severely punished by the bond market.

  810. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “It would help for lower level jobs too.”

    You could bring back the PACE exams for higher level federal jobs but not for lower level federal jobs because they were not generally used for lower level jobs. I did not take the PACE exam when I was applying for lower level federal clerical jobs in the late seventies. I ended up finally getting a GS-3 job in 1980. I did a internet check and it appears the PACE exam might have been used for GS-5 and above jobs. I guess I should have made it more clear what I was trying to say by phrasing it this way to begin with. To be honest, I do not spend a lot of effort on internet comments since I do not get paid for writing them.

    If you use exams for lower level federal jobs and the exams are too difficult you will end up not having enough people passing them to fill all the job openings. I think there is still some sort of exam in place where we hire. As I said, though, we get very few competent people to interview so the exam must be very easy to pass. A very easy to pass exam is not much better than no exam at all. A group of applicants is sent to management to interview. If any racial quotas are being applied it is probably being done before the applicants are sent to be interviewed. We had one especially incompetent worker from Bangladesh. I heard a rumor she was sent to be interviewed and then hired to fill a South Asian quota. Believe it or not, she could not speak English so I ended up doing the part of her job that required sending emails.

    Therefore, federal exams might give you better workers than no exams but it will still not give you good workers at the lower levels of the federal workforce. There is fierce competition for high IQ competent people and they can do better than lower level federal jobs. There was a much bigger pool of above average IQ people available, including me, when I was applying for jobs over 45 years ago. To really improve federal workforce quality it will actually require changing the immigration system and welfare system. The educational system also needs to be improved by prying control of it away from leftist teachers unions.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  811. @JohnnyWalker123

    Wow. We await whether the SEC has any integrity. Not holding my breath.

  812. @Mark G.

    It’s a bit coincidental, Mark, that I thought about a post this morning based on experiences one day from another at this local coffee shop. For me, it’s been mornings with my schedule right now.

    Beautiful weather, good friends… but the idiots inside insisted on playing music loud out toward the sidewalk. (I told the guy twice.) It would have been OK, if it weren’t total crap for music, but that was yesterday. Today the other guy in there played some obscure, but classic Billy Joel, like this one. It’s got a complex melody.

    Billy Joel wrote this song LONG before Europe infested itself with Islam and Africa. Vienna is no longer waiting for any of you.

    I think i’ll go write that post now.

  813. @Mark G.

    Agreed with you and Colin, but I’ll add one more thing that I remember from late Winter of ’22. That was the time of the Canadian truckers strike up in Ottawa about the mandatory vax. It got BIG. They got a tremendous amount of support from Canadians, Americans, and elsewhere. There was to be an American trucker rally too – I remember something about the routes, but then if the Lyin’ Press refuses to cover it…

    I can’t say it was all planned out this way, but I believe the Globalists were a might worried about the events in Ottawa getting us peons a little too enthusiastic and riled up. The Ukraine War may not have been started based on these worries, but once it did start, they sure made it into the new biggest story, purposefully leaving the Infotainment PanicFest behind. I remember thinking that there was no reason for that war to be a big story for Americans.

    Today, I saw a guy at the grocery store with his own fancy insulated shopping bag that was in the design of the Ukraine flag. Just amazing what the media can do to people!

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  814. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Trump has made it clear that he prefers negotiation with Iran to war.

    No, Trump has SAID he prefers negotiation to war. What he actually prefers is possibly another matter. Or perhaps it doesn’t even matter what he prefers if he isn’t calling the shots on the issue.

    Anyway, this is a false dichotomy. How’s about we do neither? Neither bully them at a negotiating table nor make war upon them? Actually, why not try normalizing relations with Iran, so they could be like any other backward country we might want to trade with.

    I don’t share your ethnically based obsession with what weapons Iran may or may not have or may or may not be developing. They are a party to the NPT and, according to OUR own intelligence agencies are not trying to develop a nuclear weapon (although it wouldn’t especially concern me if they were).

    https://thecradle.co/articles-id/29632

    Netanyahu has been predicting that an Iranian nuclear weapon is only a year away, or six months, or by lunchtime, or whatever made-up number he pulls out of thin air today, for the last thirty years.

    Israel on the other hand is not a signatory of the NPT and has nuclear weapons. So why are we bent out of shape about the one and not the other?

    The #1 slogan of the Iranian ayatollahs is “Death to America”. Death to Israel is only #2 on their list.

    Yeah, and Miller Lite’s slogan is “Tastes Great! Less Filling!”, and I don’t believe that either. The crowds in Tehran can chant “Death to America” every day and twice on Sunday from now until the Judgement Day and it won’t make a bit of difference to America. What do you imagine they are going to do? Rain down bomb (singular) upon us? If they ever get one.

    This is a case of “Let’s You and Him Fight”. Not interested Counsellor. Fight your own goddamned wars.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  815. Mr. Anon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Tektronix scopes are the best in my opinion. They don’t have all the fancy features that LeCroy or HP (now Agilent) scopes have, and if I were a serious ET I might prefer those others, but Tektronix are the most user-friendly.

    Thier new scopes, made in China, aren’t terrible, but the quality is not as good as it was when they were made in Oregon.

  816. Normally sane Denmark has just joined nutty neighbors Norway and Sweden in conscripting women:

    https://www.dw.com/en/which-countries-require-military-service-for-women/a-72151079

    Finland is holding out.

    Here, the Senate tried this in 2016, Obama’s last full year– not active conscription, but registration. The House told them to pound Middle Eastern sand. Barry might have signed it otherwise.

    Has Trump ever spoken out on this issue? Removing women from combat roles restores the constitutional rationale for the male-only draft. Proponents are trying a new legal tactic– claiming the ERA is now in effect. It isn’t, but so what if it is? Neither being drafted nor not being drafted is held to be a right under our law.

    But keep a close eye on the NDAA, particularly in the Senate.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  817. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Are you really that naive? The ayatollahs signed the NPT so we have nothing to worry about. Anyway they would only have one nuke so what’s the worst that could happen? A hit on NYC wouldn’t kill more than a million. No Iranian never called me a wigger. This is A Level stupidity.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Mr. Anon
  818. @Reg Cæsar

    The girl in center front should be breeding, not drilling!

  819. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    We could start by making them all wear yellow stars.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  820. Jack D says:
    @emil nikola richard

    The US did not really support Israel prior to 1973 and when we did, it was because of Cold War politics. The Russians were backing Egypt and Syria. You are retconning history by backdating American support back to 1948.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Mr. Anon
  821. @Mark G.

    “Therefore, federal exams might give you better workers than no exams but it will still not give you good workers at the lower levels of the federal workforce. There is fierce competition for high IQ competent people and they can do better than lower level federal jobs. There was a much bigger pool of above average IQ people available, including me, when I was applying for jobs over 45 years ago. To really improve federal workforce quality it will actually require changing the immigration system and welfare system. The educational system also needs to be improved by prying control of it away from leftist teachers unions.”

    I disagree with much of this. Low level federal workers don’t need to be superstars they just need to be able to perform their low level jobs which are designed not to be too challenging.

    And how exactly is changing the immigration and welfare systems going to improve the quality of the federal workforce?

    And teachers aren’t that important. You have your smart kids and your dumb kids and trying to teach a dumb kid to be smart is like trying to teach a short kid to be tall.

    If you want a high quality federal workforce the place to start is to try to hire high quality workers. Nothing else is going to help much if you aren’t trying to hire good workers.

  822. @Jack D

    “When the Ottomans attacked Vienna, Israel was not yet a glint in anyone’s eyes.”

    Yeah, just in the Istanbul slave markets, you lying despicable Joooooo.

    Isn’t that how you like to spell it, you Jooo?

  823. @Reg Cæsar

    Unless and until we get it back in our heads that for hot females, breeding IS drilling, childbirth (from hot White men) IS national defense… we’re toast.

    Women are not men. Women have things to do, that men cannot do.
    Men are not women. Men have got things to do, that women should not do, because they already have things that Women should do.

    Only W + W = W.

    In any configuration, W + NW + NW. Always.

    Get that thru your idiot W skulls, ladies.

  824. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    Over 32,000 comments since 2015

    You FINALLY had a good idea! L’chaim, bubbe!

  825. @Jack D

    Are you really that naive? The ayatollahs signed the NPT so we have nothing to worry about.

    No one honestly thinks the Iranians are anywheres near having a bomb, if they did start getting close, we’d know, if they got one, they’d have no means of delivering it, and if they did deliver it, they’d be committing national suicide.

    Israel, on the other hand…

    But here. We can compromise. Both Israel and Iran agree to dismantle all nuclear facilities and submit to a regime of rigorous inspections. That way we can all be safe. Plus, we can legally give Israel foreign aid.

    All better now?

  826. @Jack D

    ‘The US did not really support Israel prior to 1973 and when we did, it was because of Cold War politics. ‘

    Without our support, Israel would never have come into being at all.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @J.Ross
    , @Wielgus
  827. @James B. Shearer

    ‘And teachers aren’t that important. You have your smart kids and your dumb kids and trying to teach a dumb kid to be smart is like trying to teach a short kid to be tall.’

    That’s not really true. Poor schools and poor teachers allow failure and complete ignorance to become accepted as the norm. Obviously, you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear — but you can teach most people the three R’s, and you can get them used to the idea that they have to show up on time and work.

  828. @Colin Wright

    Oh boy, have I got a great f#cking inspirational story to tell YOU. Really, not being ironic, you’ll just eat it up — but it’s weird and indirect, it takes a while to settle in, so I’ll let it sit til later.

    Meantime, the Gospel of Our Lord teaches us to practice mercy and charity, and so in that spirit, here is the lesson of the day for you tone-deaf savages…..

  829. @Greta Handel

    {further reply to Hail (#766)}

    What do you want to replace this Establishment with?

    In a word, less.

    • I’ve been on TUR threads urging people not to vote — especially in “federal” elections — since 2015 because, among other reasons, that’s what sustains the steady increase of the political Establishment’s power in Washington to the degradation of state and local governance. (One of my first warned about the apparent lack of principle and whiff of demagoguery in Trump.)

    • Likewise, I steer clear as much as practicable from the cultural Establishment’s TV, Hollywood movies, Grammy-fied music, social media, professional and “college” sportsball, etc. Living local in that realm, too, reduces its power over us.

    What’s Hail’s answer to the same question?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  830. SafeNow says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks, Reg. Yes, she should be breeding. But not with me in my life. I am old enough to remember the song, “If you wanna be happy for rest of your life, don’t make a pretty woman your wife.” I am guessing there is an entire psychology literature on whether that song is correct. Normally, I would have done a quick search in Psychology Today and reported the result, but it is the middle of the night. And btw, don’t laugh at Psychology Today. It is a good way to get your arms around a subject quickly and impartially.

    p.s. I just posted this and got put out to pasture (moderation). I thought the rule is that if you had 50 comments during 2024, you are good to go.

  831. @SafeNow

    First you get your arms around the subject, and then you drill. That’s how you breed. 😉

    • LOL: SafeNow
  832. One of the few Guardian columnists who’s a Noticer, Larry Elliott:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/09/trade-war-donald-trump-us-china

    Talk of the end of globalisation is exaggerated. Rather, the dawn of a new protectionist era represents the end of a particular model of globalisation, an imagined liberal nirvana in which all barriers – to movement of goods, people and money – would be dismantled.

    This hyper-liberalised dream world has been on its way out ever since the global financial crisis of 2008, and all that was needed was a final shove, which Trump has just administered. From now on, migration will be restricted, supply chains will be shorter, hands-on industrial strategies will be back in favour, trade barriers will be removed only slowly.

    To the extent that this marks a return to the sort of global economy that existed before the hyper-liberals took charge in the late 20th century, this will be no bad thing.

    Hands-on industrial strategies never went away in the Far East, neither did heavily restricted immigration.

    China has gradually been growing in strength since the Deng Xiaoping reforms of the late 1970s, and throughout that period it has been consistently underestimated. It was assumed that China would for ever be a country that specialised in low-cost, high volume goods such as textiles.

    That proved wrong, as did the assumption that as China grew richer there would be unstoppable pressure for liberal democracy. For at least a decade, there have been predictions that China’s economy would collapse as a result of a bursting property bubble. That hasn’t happened yet either.

    See Eamonn Fingleton’s prescient 2007 book:

    https://www.fingleton.net/extract-from-in-the-jaws-of-the-dragon/

    Trump’s tariffs are a response to a policy vacuum that would once have been filled by parties of the left. The failings of the hyper-liberal model – slow growth, rising inequality, the hollowing out of manufacturing – have been evident since Bruce Springsteen sang his laments to lost rust belt communities in the early 1980s.

    The left has proved not just incapable but also unwilling to construct a social democratic response to these failings, preferring instead to fall back on the idea that the global free market was a force of nature that could not – and should not – be interfered with. If rightwing populism is on the march, then that’s because when the call for help came out from communities that felt abandoned, the left was nowhere to be found.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  833. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    You won’t address my points and continue to deflect to among other things grammar mistakes. So, a forfeit is still a win for your opponent.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  834. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    Well holy cow Greta, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time a few years ago to stand up for your fellow white Americans, whether it was out of sincere advocacy for them or just reflexive contrarianism to Sailer I’m not sure, but I’ll take what I can get!

    “Oh, wait, that doesn’t even matter unless I go raging, full bore asshole about foreigners, does it? ”

    This is a silly strawman. Saying they don’t belong here and have to go back is perfectly and sensibly moderate. It’s your jewish globalist conditioning that has brainwashed you into thinking that expelling useless and subversive immigrants is an extremist position. It isn’t.

    You throw around words like racist and bigot as if you’re a co-host on The View.

    But anyway, you should try playing for our team more often. 🙂

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  835. @James B. Shearer

    “teachers aren’t that important”

    Strongly disagree. I dropped history aged 13 because of my teacher, despite having loved it up to that point. Read a vast amount of history since.

    A bad teacher in a subject like maths can actually set your learning back.

    OTOH a teacher who can transmit their enthusiasm for a subject can make a huge difference, which is why 50 years later my German is still “nicht so schlecht”.

  836. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “Low level federal workers don’t need to be superstars”

    I just told you I had to send emails for a coworker because she could not speak English well enough to write a comprehensible email. She was the worst but a number of people now have trouble with English. They also have thick accents so it is hard to understand them on the phone. Even with natives, they often can’t write a comprehensible email. They can’t write clearly because they can’t think clearly. They also write emails filled with numerous spelling, grammar or punctuation errors. They use the wrong words. For example, fund site and fund cite do not mean the same thing so you need to know the difference. They can’t follow written instructions. I already said many of them have trouble filling out the job application form.

    In the case of math, just punching numbers in a calculator is not enough. You need to know what calculations to use and what order to use them in. Also, I have had people sitting with me asking me things like what is seven times nine. I do not need to even spend time using a calculator for that but they do.

    Another email problem is people drunk or on drugs sending out incomprehensible or angry emails. A drunk guy sending out angry emails typing in all caps like they are yelling at the customer is not what you want because you have to then spend time with outraged customers calming them down. Many people do not answer emails. Customers tell me a lot of people here do not answer their emails. Elon Musk sent an email out asking federal workers for five things they did last week partly just to see if the person he was sending the email to was checking their emails and seeing it. In addition to not answering emails, some people do not show up for work on a regular basis.

    I have had customers tell me I am the Sherlock Holmes of accounting because I can figure things out my coworkers can’t. I had a boss bring her kids in and introduce me as the “smart man” in the office. I am 68 and people like me are retiring. I need to emphasize here we have a test for potential employees. As I already said, you can’t make the test harder to get better employees because not enough people would pass it to fill all the available job openings.

  837. @Mike Tre

    You throw around words like racist and bigot as if you’re a co-host on The View.

    That’s demonstrably false, too, but why should I spend any more time wiping off your smears? It’s already clear that you’ve no interest in what I’ve actually said; the misrepresented Greta Handel is among your strawmen. Even in acknowledging the latest dispelling of your ignorance, the conversation’s been reloaded with more of this

    whether it was out of sincere advocacy for them or just reflexive contrarianism to Sailer I’m not sure

    stupid, lazy shit. While you’re at it, look into the definition of “bigotry” — it covers a lot more than you seem at this point to have grasped.

    You should try harder to keep it intellectually honest, Mike. 🙂

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Mike Tre
  838. Brutusale says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One of the best things about the administration’s push to defund the likes of USAID is the future lack of NGO funding that all these useless eaters need to get a job, given their silly degrees.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: muggles
  839. @Mike Tre

    You won’t address my points

    because your obsession doesn’t much interest me. I see immigration more as the neo-feudal Establishment’s tool to continue wiping out the middle class, indenturing the working class, and sucking up the wealth. They otherwise take no side, but cultivate and exploit the race/religion/etc angles to obscure this and keep people voting at each other. See also, Floyd & Chauvin (search my archive with “balsa” for my take, if you want it).

    and continue to deflect to among other things grammar mistakes.

    So it wasn’t a “typo”? Again, Mike, all in fun.

  840. @Mark G.

    “I just told you I had to send emails for a coworker because she could not speak English well enough to write a comprehensible email. …”

    You also said she was some sort of affirmative action hire. There is no law of nature that says the federal government has to hire terrible workers when better ones are available.

    “…As I already said, you can’t make the test harder to get better employees because not enough people would pass it to fill all the available job openings.”

    The test should give a score not just be pass fail. Except maybe for extremely low scorers who should never be hired. And then hire from the top scorers. And you could make the jobs more attractive. Besides raising pay removing the worst workers would help. People perform better in an environment where good performance is valued. And good people don’t like having to cover for workers who should never have been hired and who can’t be fired.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  841. Brutusale says:
    @Mark G.

    As I already said, you can’t make the test harder to get better employees because not enough people would pass it to fill all the available job openings.

    My nurse girlfriend is happy that she’s retiring in two years for that reason. Her department has nine openings for RN case managers that they can’t seem to fill. A lot of the old pros have left since the Covid Craziness, and the quality of the current applicants is abysmal.

    A big part of this was a McKinsey consult; as is their wont, they recommended an increase in diversity. Since Covid, new nursing hires have been 50% minority. Two months ago, the leadership increased their length of stay target (getting patients out the door to free up beds for new patients) by a third.

    Our world is devolving.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  842. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “You also said she was some sort of affirmative action hire.”

    But a lot of the other problems I listed are with people who are not affirmative action hires. Even Whites now seem less intelligent and more dysfunctional than in the past. If you have ever seen that Idiocracy movie where the poor Whites have more children than the White high IQ yuppie couple, this is pretty much reflecting reality. Eliminating affirmative action is a good idea but you need to hire some minorities. The majority of people in this country under the age of sixteen are non-White. They will be replacing us more White Boomers in the workforce as we retire or die off. We are running out of above average IQ Whites and just do not have enough for all the jobs where they are needed.

    Yes, you can rank job applicants by test scores and hire the ones with the highest scores. In many cases, though, the highest scorers will still make poor workers. For the third time, we have tests here and the people doing the best on them in many cases are not good workers after we hire them.

  843. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Are you really that naive?

    I’m not naive at all: I’m not falling for your line of ethnically self-interested bulls**t.

    The ayatollahs signed the NPT so we have nothing to worry about.

    Really? Are they “not worrying” now? Are all those B-2’s on Diego Garcia a cause of “no worry”?

    I recently read where some government or think-tank flack was opining that the Iranians should give up their nuclear aspirations just like Libya did. Honestly. That’s what he said. Yeah, that’s a great example of how beneficial it is to cooperate with the “Rules Based Order”. Ask Muhammar Khadafi how that worked out for him.

    Anyway they would only have one nuke so what’s the worst that could happen? A hit on NYC wouldn’t kill more than a million.

    Right, because that’s the first thing they would do if they got hold of a bomb – those dastardly Iranians – they would instantly fling it at the World’s greatest military power. Because they are just raving spittle-flecking lunatics – the international equivalent of the filthy homeless guy on the subway brandishing a box-cutter and yelling “I’ll cut you!”.

    Look, Jack, you may be required to believe your own people’s little proprietary stereotypes, but the rest of us aren’t obliged to.

    No Iranian never called me a wigger. This is A Level stupidity.

    No Iranian ever called me “Goy”. No Iranian ever undermined my civilization while declaring that they were a “Light unto the Nations” or were “Repairing the World”.

    What would be stupid would be to believe a bunch of goniffs who want to induce us to fight their wars for them.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  844. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    You’re just rewriting history to suit your antisemitism. The Soviet Union was the first country to grant de jure recognition to Israel on 17 May 1948, The United States did not extend de jure recognition until 31 January 1949, by which point the Israelis had already won the war and were the defacto rulers anyway. Nor did the US send the Israelis any weapons. There was private support from American Jews but nothing from the US government, nor would there be for many years. In the early years, Israeli weapons and planes were Czech, French, anything but American. In ’56, Eisenhower took the Arab side against Israel, the UK and France.

    The ignorance of the Men of Unz is breathtaking. Whatever exists now must have always existed. They can’t imagine a different past, one where the State Dept. was dominated by WASP Arabists and antisemites such as themselves who regarded the smell socialist Jews of Israel with suspicion. Yes, those were the Good Old Days and they are not coming back.

  845. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    The US did not really support Israel prior to 1973 and when we did, it was because of Cold War politics.

    The crewmen of the USS Liberty might hold a different opinion. As might the nuclear scientists and technicians at Dimona.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  846. @Greta Handel

    {further reply to Mike Tre (#849)}

    You throw around words like racist and bigot as if you’re a co-host on The View.

    Okay, I felt compelled to double check the Greta Handel archive. As best as I can confirm by searching for the word, I’ve never called you or anyone else a “racist.” My use has, each and every time, been to Notice others’ manipulative propaganda or gullibility.

    But you can keep your 🏆, Mike.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  847. J.Ross says:
    @Colin Wright

    Without support that came from America, yes. The support of the American government as in the age of AIPAC, no, rather the opposite. It is possible but not certain that without Nixon’s completely unthanked intervention, Israel would have been snuffed out (decades after founding). But Jewish gangsters would still have existed and, as after other catastrophes, they would have just done something else.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  848. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    In the early years, Israeli weapons and planes were Czech, French, anything but American. In ’56, Eisenhower took the Arab side against Israel, the UK and France.

    You mean like all those Sherman tanks they had? They may have bought them from the French, but they were American tanks.

    https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/sherman-tanks-of-the-israeli-army/

    Someone was talking about breathtaking ignorance. But don’t worry………..I don’t think that lapse was ignorance on your part.

    The ignorance of the Men of Unz is breathtaking. Whatever exists now must have always existed. They can’t imagine a different past, one where the State Dept. was dominated by WASP Arabists and antisemites such as themselves who regarded the smell socialist Jews of Israel with suspicion. Yes, those were the Good Old Days and they are not coming back.

    A different past? Like the past where Stern Gang goons sent letter bombs to Harry Truman? Yeah, I can imagine that past.

  849. @Mr. Anon

    Thank you for your service. I appreciate how eloquently you’re kicking Jack’s ass out of his bigoted mouth.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  850. @Nicholas Stix

    OK, Nick, I see you put a comment in on Peak Stupidity. I wrote you back there, mostly just to explain that the functionality there is shameful compared to, say, this site. I haven’t done anything with/to the software since ’18!

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  851. @Jack D

    Why must you always lie? Are you simply incapable of honesty? It is a well known fact that President Harry S. Truman was the first world leader to recognize the State of Israel, doing so just 11 minutes after its proclamation of independence on May 14, 1948.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  852. @Brutusale

    The nurse in our family says the floor has gone nearly completely Black! since she started a few years ago. Many of these people would not have made it though the tech school nursing program when she was there, she says.

    Soooo, now they will really push for a BSN, something nursing schools have wanted ($$!!) for half a century. That’s more time and money wasted (because none of it helps one become a better nurse if you’ve already been one), all to weed out some of these people, if possible. Steve Sailer has explained things like this better than I have here.

    The plan now is for her to try for a regular-hour desk job, maybe doing that “coding” for insurance. For this, you need that BSN, which, she is working on.

    Our world is devolving.

    Some might say, it’s approaching Peak Stupidity.

  853. @SafeNow

    I just posted this and got put out to pasture (moderation). I thought the rule is that if you had 50 comments during 2024, you are good to go.

    Somewhere between the last comment thread and this one, I got demoted from auto-approve to “awaiting moderation”. So I guess something’s going on behind the scenes, but I don’t know what.

    See you in the blueberry patch!

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Brutusale
  854. epebble says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    They are even detaining citizens and searching their phones without any reason. Looks like you don’t get any 4th Amendment protection when you are returning from abroad before you enter U.S. If you are politically boisterous, it may be a good idea to leave your electronics at home and may be carry a new burner phone.

    Lawyer for U-M protester detained at airport after spring break trip with family
    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2025/04/07/lawyer-for-u-m-protester-held-at-airport-refused-to-give-feds-his-phone/82978891007/

    Looks like Trump administration doesn’t like attorneys who represent disfavored clients. They are being targeted for harassment so that they don’t take representation of government’s perceived ‘enemies’.

  855. @Mark G.

    “If you have ever seen that Idiocracy movie where the poor Whites have more children than the White high IQ yuppie couple, this is pretty much reflecting reality.”

    Not really, although such families do exist.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/may/30/socialexclusion.economy

    Bank holiday Monday and no school for the Williams sisters – Jade, 12, Gemma, 14, and Natasha, who was 16 a couple of months ago. The extensive newspaper coverage the girls recently endured invariably suggested they were devoted mothers who were happy to spend their adolescence changing nappies and filling bottles. So they will probably devote the whole day to looking after their babies. But, even if they gladly sacrifice the joys of unencumbered youth, early motherhood has reduced the chance they will enjoy the life that most of us would wish for our daughters. They ought, in consequence, to attract the nation’s sympathy. Instead, they have been treated like characters in a Victorian morality play. The Williams sisters have become paradigms of the undeserving poor.

    It is not their casual view of sex that has denied them all claims on our compassion. That is now an acceptable part of life – particularly among people known as celebrities. The Williams family’s crime is being a burden on the state. Salivating newspapers have varied in their calculations of what it costs to keep the family – mother, three teenage daughters and three babies. An average of the estimates works out at £650 per week.

    Clevon and his brood were stand-ins for the ethnic group which must not be called unintelligent, and if they do poorly in exams that’s because of racist teachers and racist society 😉

  856. @Almost Missouri

    Hopefully, it’s temporary and incidental to restoration of the Next New Comment feature after someone pulled too hard unplugging Sailer’s Whimmer, and we can still keep citing back to static comment ##.

    But even so far, this has been like a prison break!

    • Replies: @Curle
  857. @epebble

    Who here will support that, too, especially if the lawyer’s brownish or something?

    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
  858. Jack D says:
    @Adam Smith

    The Soviet Union was the first country to grant de jure recognition to Israel on 17 May 1948,[7] followed by Nicaragua, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Poland.[8] The United States
    extended de jure recognition after the first Israeli election,[9] on 31 January 1949.[10]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel#:~:text=The%20Soviet%20Union%20was%20the,election%2C%20on%2031%20January%201949.

    From your own link:

    The State Department, chiefly in the person of Secretary of State George Marshall, feared alienating the Arabs and their oil. Marshall, whom Grandpa [Truman] greatly admired, went so far as to tell Grandpa that if recognition was granted, he wouldn’t vote for him in the coming election.

    Anyone who posts Happy Merchant memes outs himself as a despicable white supremacist.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  859. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The Israelis shooting up the Liberty is evidence of US support? Why were they shooting up their supporter?

    The Dimona reactor was provided by the French. Possibly the Israelis stole the fuel from the US. Again, this is the opposite of support.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @res
    , @Mr. Anon
  860. Jack D says:
    @Greta Handel

    If you are persuaded by his arguments (I don’t think you are – you already believe the same bullshit) then you are as stupid as he is.

    Do you really trust the Iranians not to use nukes? Any rational person would have told Sinwar that if he attacked Israel on 10/7, he would get himself killed, tens of thousands of Gazans would also die and the whole place would be flattened. But he did it anyway, for the glory of Allah or something. Same thing with Bin Laden – he was signing his own death warrant but he did it anyway, joyously.

    Americans always make the mistake of thinking that everyone is an American at heart and just wants to live peacefully and watch football and drink beer if given the chance. There are people who are motivated by the fanaticism of their devil worshiping religion and who love death, by their own confession. Please take them at their word.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Mr. Anon
  861. Hail says: • Website

    ***SAILER STEPS INTO THE TARIFF CONTROVERSY***

    Steve Sailer today says he does affirmatively endorse trade-protectionism for the USA in our time. Against unfair foreign undercutters, the usual cheap-labor deluge, and the sinister designs of China to ruin White Middle America.

    Sailer says failing to fight China and greedy mega-corporations, on this front, back in the 1990s and 2000s, was a serious failure — a bipartisan failure by the Bush-I, Clinton, and Bush-II people.

    He says, however, that he “lost interest in punditizing about economic questions” some time ago. So his first instinct was to decline to leap into the tariff debate too early. He still takes pains to hedge, but he clearly is in favor of trade-protectionism in our time:

    PROCRASTNATION RULES!

    I successfully kicked the can down the road on writing an ambitious think piece about Trump and tariffs.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 10, 2025

    ___________

    For weeks, I’ve been feeling guilty about not delivering my magnum opus take on Trump’s tariffs.

    But, then again, I’ve never had much of a take on tariffs. (As evidence, note that I have no clue whether the word is spelled tarrifs or tariffs, and constantly have to rely on spell-checker.)

    Having majored in college in economics (among other things), I of course absorbed the free trade orthodoxy.

    But in the later 20th Century, it kept emerging that reasonable leaders wanted to put reasonable thumbs on the scales of trade. For example, the Northeast Asian governments wanted their firms to dominate the world automobile market, and the firms were working hard to deserve that domination.

    Still, many other countries didn’t want to see them fully succeed. Most countries seemed to want to maintain some automobile manufacturing at home for economic, sociological, and military reasons. Even the ideological free trader Ronald Reagan imposed import quotas (a cousin of tariffs) on Japanese car makers, which led them to build assembly plants in the U.S. And the U.S. has had a 25% tariff on pickup trucks for 60 or so years, which appears to be highly popular with pickup truck fans.

    All in all, these kind of pragmatic compromises struck me as fairly reasonable.

    But, while I lost my faith in the economists’ dogma of free trade, I never developed much enthusiasm for tariffs either.

    Also, over the decades I’ve mostly lost interest in punditizing about economic questions. You can make big money by being right about the economy, so the field attracts a lot of competent talent (besides a lot of incompetents as well). Instead, I concentrate on subjects where being right is bad for your career, so I don’t have as much competition (although, I’m happy to say, it is building).

    Still, I wish we had done more back at the turn of the century to slow offshoring to China. Bernie Sanders has, I believe, argued that Bill Clinton giving up some of the Presidents’ power to Congress to impose tariffs on China was taken as a message to American CEOs that the political leadership wouldn’t hold them back from shutting down their American plants and outsourcing everything.

    Jerry Pournelle in 1999 argued for a simple 10% tariff on everything as a defensive way to slow outsourcing, to throw some grit in the gears of the rise of China, but still allow it when the foreign cost advantage got too sizable to ignore. Why a moderate universal tariff? Jerry was concerned about Washington’s history back around the turn of the 20th Century of corrupt sausage-making when it came to tariffs.

    But note that Jerry’s scheme was defensive: to slow the rise of a strategic rival and allow more American factory workers to finish out their careers doing what they knew how to do.

    I thought it made sense back then under NAFTA to treat Mexico as our China, our own low-wage platform for polluting industry, but one that would never ever be a military threat to the US.

    Unfortunately, we didn’t do many things like that to slow the decline of American manufacturing.

    So, now, if we want to rebuild America’s manufacturing might, we can’t just use moderate defensive steps but have to undertake a carefully-considered, broadly supported, multi-year plan to rebuild certain supply chains within the U.S.

    That’s not a bad idea, and the Biden Administration did some of that for particularly strategic industries.

    For instance, they induced the Taiwanese to not put all their chipmaking baskets in dicey Taiwan (legally speaking, who exactly is sovereign of Taiwan?), but to also invest in purple Arizona.

    Similarly, the Biden Administration tried to get a rare earths mine in California reopened and a rare earth refining plant in Texas built, but that has been slowed by the usual environmental reviews. Plus, the Chinese boosted their rare earths production last year to drive down prices to make investment in rare earths outside of China less attractive in the short run.

    You might expect Trump to greatly expand these efforts to other industries.

    In general, though, building new factories in America is a multiyear process. So, if you want the American economy to benefit from tariffs by recreating state-of-the-art supply chains, it would make sense to announce tariffs will be imposed on a future date when industry has had a chance to adjust so as to minimize short-term chaos that might lead to the tariff being cancelled and the whole concept of tariffs being discredited.

    But, on the other hand, enunciating a long-term plan that carefully distinguishes high-priority industries (say, jet engines) from low-priority industries (e.g., socks), building broad support for The Plan, and then sticking with it year after year are not among Trump’s predilections.

    He likes making deals, the more startling the better.

    So, it’s hard to see how imposing tariffs today to reap the benefits years down the road due to massive investments in state of the art factories would happen under Trump.

    It’s not impossible (although highly difficult) for some leader to do this. But Trump’s personality, age, mercurialness, and second-term status don’t seem well-suited to that kind of confidence-inducing long-termism.

    Hence, today, Trump suspended his new tariffs on everybody except China for 90 days. And stocks soared.

    So, I’m glad I didn’t write my 3,000 word essay on tariffs.

    What are your thoughts?

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/procrastination-rules

  862. Corvinus says:
    @kaganovitch

    “I’m so old I can still remember you citing the abandonment of Trump by the all-important Nick Fuentes demographic as the reason he won’t win the election.”

    When did I say that?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  863. @Jack D

    At 11 minutes after midnight on May 14, 1948, the United States became the first country to recognize the independent state of Israel.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Hail
  864. Mark G. says:
    @Hail

    “Steve Sailer today said he does affirmatively endorse trade protectionism”

    Steve did coin the phrase “invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world” to describe the policy our elites were following. That aligned him with the Pat Buchanan paleocons. Trump has also followed the same path.

    I am more of a Ron Paul type of guy than a Pat Buchanan type of guy, which makes me a free trader, but I did vote for Pat when he ran in the primaries. He was right on the very important immigration issue and wanted to keep us out of wars. Buchanan, Sailer and Trump all said our second Iraq war was a mistake. Steve, though, unfortunately wandered away from a Buchanan type of foreign policy by not coming out against our proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine or our military assistance to Israel. Trump is not much better than Steve. Ron Paul is better but is too old to run now. Something like Ron Paulism is probably in our future, though, because his philosophy is the one most likely to lead to peace and prosperity.

    • Replies: @Hail
  865. Brutusale says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Just short of 7K comments, and I’ve been in mods since the new regime began. I must be a repeat scofflaw!

  866. @epebble

    I think that, hard-core MAGA types aside, this all my lead to the increase of authentic antisemitism in the US, with all its pathological manifestations.

  867. J.Ross says:

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  868. @Adam Smith

    True.
    But, it was Stalin’s USSR via Czechoslovakia, that armed a nascent Israeli state & helped it win the 1st existential war. US Jews helped, but they couldn’t do it at such a massive scale.

    These things are so trivial & well known like….what?…. Dolly Parton’s boobs.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Jack D
  869. J.Ross says:
    @epebble

    … yeah, but, this has been normal for years, but with us as the targets (in fact, this is downright merciful compared to, say, what they did to Roger Stone). Quibble: I haven’t heard about this yet. If I do look into it, am I going to find that you have possibly not included all of the relevant detsils? Hmmm?

    • Agree: Sam Hildebrand
    • Replies: @epebble
  870. J.Ross says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    US Jews helped and at a typically superhuman scale. One US Jew in New Jersey had an entire barn full of explosives (he was caught). One US Jew founded the Israeli air force by delivering planes from abroad.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  871. @Jack D

    Do you really trust the Iranians not to use nukes?

    This is the question I’ve been pondering on for a long time.

    Pro- they are apocalyptic fanatics who would want to see fulfillment of millenarian prophecies.

    Con- they’re faking it all the time like, say, Kim the slim. Islamic solidarity taken into account, they could get nukes from Pakistan any time. And use them as a deterrent against American intervention. Plus, that society has been undergoing transformation in the last 20+ years. So, Iran with nukes would mean only that some Islamist elites stay until they are not in power anymore. Nothing more.

    For years I thought they were sincere fanatics willing to sacrifice themselves. But- I don’t think so. Not that they are rational, but they don’t want apocalyptic conflagration. They just like to live on the planet earth & don’t hurry to be catapulted into their version of heaven.

    So- nuclear Iran wouldn’t change much.

    As regards Sinwar etc.- that was a miscalculation. Starting a nuclear war is something fundamentally different.

  872. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    If *everybody* went to “college” then who would do the work?

    • Replies: @muggles
  873. @epebble

    Looks like Trump administration doesn’t like attorneys who represent disfavored clients. They are being targeted for harassment so that they don’t take representation of government’s perceived ‘enemies’.

    Arabs are who TSA should have been targeting all along since 9/11. In the article you linked, this entitled Arab retard actually said this was the first time that the feds had ever went after lawyers, and it is all bad Trump’s fault. I guess all these lawyers had it coming.

    Rudy Giuliani: Giuliani, who led Trump’s post-election efforts, was formally disbarred in Washington, D.C., on Thursday, with the District of Columbia Court of Appeals ordering the penalty based on New York disbarring the attorney in July. The former New York City mayor has also been criminally charged in Arizona for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election—where he initially tried to evade being served—after already being charged in Georgia, and he’s also been sued for defamation by voting machine companies Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic. He was ordered to pay $148 million to Georgia election workers whom he defamed, which resulted in Giuliani declaring bankruptcy.

    Jenna Ellis: Ellis was charged in Arizona after previously being indicted in Georgia and taking a plea deal in that case, and she took another deal in August that requires her to provide “truthful, honest, candid, and complete” testimonies after being suspended from practicing law for three years as a result of her Georgia guilty plea. She was also previously censured for violating rules that bar attorneys from engaging in “dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation,” with the attorney admitting in court she had made “misrepresentations” while representing Trump after the election that had a “selfish motive.”

    Kenneth Chesebro: The attorney, who is described as the architect of the Trump campaign’s “fake electors” scheme—in which GOP officials in battleground states submitted false slates of electors to Congress claiming Trump won—was criminally charged in Wisconsin on one count of forgery, after previously being indicted in Georgia, though he took a plea deal right before his case went to trial.

    James Troupis: Troupis was also reportedly charged in Wisconsin in June; another Trump attorney who helped organize the false electors scheme, the lawyer had previously avoided criminal charges in other states and settled a civil lawsuit regarding the electors plot in Wisconsin in March.

    John Eastman: Eastman was also charged in Arizona, after already being indicted in Georgia and having 11 charges filed against him by counsel for the California State Bar stemming from his efforts to challenge the election results with Trump. A judge recommended in March that Eastman be disbarred and sanctioned $10,000 for his post-election efforts, which the lawyer intends to appeal.

    Christina Bobb: Bobb was charged in Arizona, the first charges the attorney and former One America News anchor—who now serves as an attorney for the Republican National Committee—has so far faced. The lawyer joined Trump’s legal team in November 2020, according to the Washington Post, and the indictment cites a text message that ties the lawyer to the “fake elector” scheme in which GOP officials submitted false slates of electors to Congress claiming Trump won their states.

    Jeffrey Clark: Former DOJ attorney Clark, who faced charges from the D.C. bar for aiding Trump’s post-election efforts from within the agency, broke at least one rule of professional conduct related to his actions after 2020 election, a D.C. ethics committee found in a preliminary ruling, with a disciplinary panel ruling in August he should be suspended from practicing law for two years—Clark was also criminally charged in Georgia.

    Sidney Powell: A judge dismissed an attempt by the Texas State Bar to discipline Powell in February after the bar alleged Powell’s post-election efforts had violated rules for professional conduct, though she now faces a separate disciplinary investigation in Michigan after being sanctioned for her post-election lawsuit in that state. After advising Trump and bringing her own post-election lawsuits in four states, Powell also still faces defamation lawsuits from Dominion and Smartmatic, a reported federal investigation into her organization’s fundraising arm and was criminally charged in Georgia, though she later reached a plea deal.

    Michael Cohen: Trump’s longtime attorney served a three-year sentence in prison and home confinement for tax evasion and campaign finance-related crimes, after he orchestrated a series of “hush money” payments to adult film actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal over allegations they had affairs with Trump.

    Alina Habba: Habba, who’s representing Trump in many of his post-presidency legal battles, has been sanctioned multiple times in Trump’s failed lawsuit against Hillary Clinton; she was first ordered to pay with her co-counsel $50,000 in sanctions and $16,274 in attorneys’ fees to one defendant in the case, and she and Trump were then sanctioned in January for nearly $1 million payable to Clinton, her campaign and other Democratic operatives.

    Cleta Mitchell: Mitchell, who participated in Trump’s phone call in which he urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find” enough votes to overturn the state’s election results, resigned from her law firm Foley & Lardner in January 2021, saying she left the firm due to a “massive pressure campaign” against her from the left to oust her over her associations with Trump.

    Other Georgia Attorneys: Attorneys Ray Smith and Robert Cheeley were also indicted as part of the Georgia case against Trump and his allies, after Smith worked on behalf of the Trump campaign in Georgia and Cheeley pushed false claims of election fraud at a legislative hearing in the state.

    Pending Complaints: Ethics complaints urging state bars and disciplinary boards to investigate attorneys have been filed and remain pending against multiple Trump lawyers who aided his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including Mitchell and Boris Epshteyn, though court records show another complaint against Trump attorneys in New Mexico was dismissed.

    • Replies: @epebble
  874. Hail says: • Website
    @Adam Smith

    a Jewish state has been proclaimed in Palestine

    provisional government

    de facto

    These are highly qualified statements, of course.

    Jack D is right, in this case, to an extent: Many U.S. and Western-European leading men opposed the self-proclaimed, legally dubious, morally questionable “State of Israel,” not least because it was formed through terrorism and through many violations of international law.

    The real reason the State of Israel was able to happen in the way it did — by which it was put on course towards its status as a gangster-terror state with global influence:

    [MORE]

    The general power vacuum everywhere after 1945. They skillfully exploited it, ruthlessly killed enemies, used blackmail, terror, manipulation of foreign powers and the media. (Same old, same old.) They could play the USA and USSR off each other to their benefit, and wait it out to see which side they could make better use of later on.

    We ought not underestimate the empowerment of the Jews after 1945 and their dispersion out of Europe (ca. 1900s-1950s, not just in the 1930s-1940s period). It was an enormous ethno-political momentum. A sense of momentum was the likes of which White Western Christians have been discouraged from having for about a century now (but which we once had).

    From what I’ve read on the subject, Harry Truman personally opposed the machinations of these people. So did George Marshall and others, opposing Israel and wanting to limit these people’s influence. They disliked the Jews as people as they believed they didn’t engage in fairplay, that they undermined institutions, and that they lacked basic social graces (i.e, they were uncouth, loud, aggressive, besides their orientation towards money; they would coarsen a culture over which they gained considerable influence).

    The most troublesome of the Jews, the aggressive Zionists and diasporic Zionist-backers, it was feared, could maneuver political puppets into power (as we see today these Trump-II people). I sense Truman, Marshall, and the others such men as General Patton and a wide swathe of U.S. public opinion and the commentariat, believed it a longer-run possibility that a State of Israel would create endless headaches.

    That was then. The days of the USA as whimpering lap-dog for that regime took decades to really materialize, but materialize they did. In our time, anyone who opposes Israel (in recent decades) has tended to be treated as an oddball — at best. Gatekeepers, of which Jack D is one, enforce the taboo.

    A lot of Sailer readers accuse Steve Sailer of having “gone soft on Israel” around the time he began to get more of a public profile. This may or may not be true; the reason so many Sailer readers believe it, or are willing to consider it, is because they’ve seen it so often; the entire society often seems to operate along these lines. By now, with these Trump-II people gleefully puppetizing the USA for this noisy and problematic State of Israel, it’s quite a far cry from the wary views of the mid-20th century.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Jack D
  875. @Greta Handel

    Who here will support that, too, especially if the lawyer’s brownish or something?

    Count me in.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  876. @Jack D

    The Israelis shooting up the Liberty is evidence of US support? Why were they shooting up their supporter?

    Maybe they don’t like US military surveillance? After all, they threatened to shoot down USAF U-2 spy planes they thought were surveilling them.

    [6 min in.]

  877. @epebble

    Karl Karsada at Inrangetv states to never use any biometric ID on your phone because the government could then force you to unlock your phone; use a password for unlocking.

    • Replies: @epebble
  878. @J.Ross

    https://aish.com/during-israels-dire-need-arming-israel-in-1948/

    During Israel’s Dire Need: Arming Israel in 1948

    David Ben Gurion later declared, “Czechoslovak arms saved the State of Israel, really and absolutely. Without these weapons, we wouldn’t have survived.”

  879. epebble says:
    @Joe Stalin

    What difference does it make when they ask you to use your password to unlock the phone? Besides, they have invested enough (in tools) to circumvent your puny password protection for all but the most robust encryptions.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  880. epebble says:
    @Sam Hildebrand

    To the best of my knowledge, most of those disciplined attorneys were debarred etc., by the judiciary after inquiring into their professional misconduct, like knowingly filing false motions, claiming to have evidence that doesn’t exist or is false etc. That is like a court sentencing you for theft or robbery. Very different from the police shooting you because you are an alleged gang member.

    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
  881. epebble says:
    @J.Ross

    Some more details:

    Attorney representing a student protester detained by federal immigration agents
    https://www.npr.org/2025/04/09/nx-s1-5357455/attorney-detained-by-immigration-authorities

    “Tactical Terrorism Response Team” deployed against an U.S. citizen attorney returning from vacation has a strong ‘1984’ feel to it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  882. @Hail

    China was the hedge that America used to take down ascendant Japan Inc.

    That’s why treacherous old white niggers like you don’t deserve any better.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  883. @epebble

    To the best of my knowledge, most of those disciplined attorneys were debarred etc., by the judiciary after inquiring into their professional misconduct, like knowingly filing false motions, claiming to have evidence that doesn’t exist or is false etc. That is like a court sentencing you for theft or robbery. Very different from the police shooting you because you are an alleged gang member.

    False motions like the 2020 election was stolen? These lawyers were targeted by the left because they defended Trump. The left weaponized the government to punish Trump and his supporters.

    Then this little whiny Sunni has the stones to claim that Trump is setting a bad precedent by using the government to go after opponents, all because he was made uncomfortable at a TSA checkpoint.

    • Agree: deep anonymous
  884. @Hail

    Perhaps Mr. Sailer was waiting to see what Peak Stupidity had to say about it first. ;-} That was from past Tuesday, and your post was from just prior.

    I think he’s right to not get into economics – you may be “proved” wrong, even when, by all rights, you were right.

    Under about the last post Mr. Sailer had on here (which referred to a substack post and maybe Takimag article along with it), I disagreed strongly with his take on deflation. My rebuttal has been slow in coming, but I found a Nov of ’01 news clipping from the WSJ, that I thought I’d long lost which decried not only deflation but even inflation under 2%! My “WTF!” is still in pen there at the top of that yellowed clipping.

    Post coming soon.

    I’ll check iSteve’s post out. Thanks, Mr. Hail!

  885. @Hail

    A table from the chapter on tariffs (Ch. 4) from Alfred Eckes book you presented and discussed in your post on this matter:

    So, don’t anyone tell you that Smoot-Hawley was some kind of outlier and caused the Great Depression 1.0. That happened for a lot of reasons, and the next will too. I’d say the next one should have been MUCH easier to see coming too.

    • Thanks: epebble, Almost Missouri, Hail
  886. res says:
    @Jack D

    Disingenuousness does not become you. Do you want me to explain the larger context which makes those incidents indicative of US support? At least in some important parts of the US government.

  887. @Jack D

    Well, yeah.

    The truth is, there is a whole interesting, non-sentimental book to be written on the subject, but I am a very lazy man and don’t have the inclination to write it just right now.

    Short version is, the whole conceptual idea of “college” was kinda-sorta different back in the mid-20th century when endlessly advancing American prosperity was a given, and all those sons-of-illiterate-fishermen (like my own father) had such high hopes for their sons-of-sorta-literate-garage-mechanics-doing-better-than-they-thought (yeah that would be me). Problem is of course, those conditions no longer apply, but that conceptual future-thinking apparatus remains in place, long past its actual relevancy.

    I am reminded of an episode from my own “college” years (this really happened)…. At Harvard I got an un-heard-of B on the General Mills mass-produced introductory Shakespeare class… at the very same time that my avant-garde Wooster Group-inflected underground deep-thought production of a Shakespeare play was playing to sold-out, lines-around-the-block, we-have-to-add-a-midnight-show performances. Somebody said to me, Well Professor Marjorie Garber thinks that the role of Margaret of Anjou is yadda yadda, and I said Tell her to come here and get a real look at Margaret of Anjou, til then STFU.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  888. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    “You should try harder to keep it intellectually honest, Mike. 🙂”

    Eh, more projection. Boring.

    Brown people have no right to come here Greta, and they can be deported for any reason. Deal with it.

  889. Mike Tre says:
    @Greta Handel

    My god, you’re so obsessed you’re replying to yourself.

  890. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    My understanding from Mr Fingleton’s work is that Japan and China have co-operated quite a lot in the last few decades, and that just as, in the early 20th century, Uncle Sam was the midwife of the new industrialised Japan which sank the Russian Pacific Fleet, Japan is the midwife of modern China.

  891. Mike Tre says:
    @Mark G.

    “Even Whites now seem less intelligent and more dysfunctional than in the past. If you have ever seen that Idiocracy movie where the poor Whites have more children than the White high IQ yuppie couple, this is pretty much reflecting reality.”

    The problem in the US isn’t “low IQ” whites having more kids than “high IQ” whites, it’s any IQ non whites having more kids than whites. Countless remarkable white innovators and or entrepreneurs came from large, poor families. The welfare state has enabled white mediocrity as much as anything else.

    Mike Judge was just going with the Hollywood flow: Targeting rural whites for mockery, even though that opening scene would have been more realistic if the family on welfare were negroes or mestizos.

    For all the truths Idiocracy speaks to, it still, as much as any movie, promotes the same old anti-white narratives that Hollywood demands.

    • Agree: Sam Hildebrand
    • Replies: @Mark G.
  892. J.Ross says:
    @deep anonymous

    For multiple clear reasons, in the near future, the Big Land Fight of the era will be over the arctic.
    Russia is already perfectly positioned.
    We are not.
    Do you even Great Game, bro?

    • LOL: muggles
    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  893. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    The root of all evil, certainly not. They’re the conduit of a significant and gratuitous amount of evil.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  894. Jack D says:
    @Hail

    Gee, was there anything that happened in the period 1933-1945 which might have changed the position of the Jews (and of the rest of the world vis-a-vis the small minority of European Jews who survived that period)? It seems like you may have forgotten about certain unpleasant events which immediately preceded the formation of Israel.

  895. epebble says:
    @Hail

    The Apprentice has started.

    Trade shake-up: Bessent leads on trade as Lutnick plays ‘bad cop’ — and Navarro is sidelined
    The Treasury secretary has emerged as a soothing presence and a voice of reason amid this week’s tariff fracas.

    President Donald Trump this week upended not just his tariff strategy but his trade team

    Former hedge fund manager and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent — the White House’s main conduit to beleaguered financial markets — is now at the helm, with populist Peter Navarro relegated to the sidelines and Wall Street punching bag Howard Lutnick recast into the role of “bad cop,” according to three people close to the White House, granted anonymity to speak frankly about internal dynamics.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/10/bessent-trade-lutnick-navarro-shakeup-00284597

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  896. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    I suppose this represents a concession from a Man of Unz. Would you quantify it for us – if Jews are not the root of 100% of the evil in the world, is it 90%, 50% or what? Jews are around 0.2% of the global population but have won roughly 22% of all Nobel Prizes. Are they responsible for more than 22% of evil?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  897. Jack D says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Not to the Men of Unz. It is necessary to their worldview that the US government has been Jew-controlled since forever. They cannot admit that the Jews are not all powerful and were at the time a weak and struggling minority that barely survived the war and which got no help from the US.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  898. Mark G. says:
    @Mike Tre

    “The problem in the US isn’t low IQ Whites having more kids than high IQ Whites.”

    It does not have to be one or the other. It can be both. High IQ Whites can not be having enough children, resulting in younger generations of Whtes being less intelligent. At the same time, the numbers of low IQ non-Whites are increasing due to welfare and immigration. Like you, I agree the latter is the bigger problem.

    It is true successful Whites have come from poor families. Charles Murray has written, though, with the advent of testing and colleges looking for undiscovered talent that much of the undiscovered talent among poor Whites has already been found. In addition to racial differences in IQ, high IQ can be passed down from one generation to another among Whites.

    I was trying to tell someone that we needed to fix the immigration system and welfare system that is having dysgenic effects on the population. There is accumulating evidence that in recent years average national IQ is dropping. I have seen this referred to as a reverse Flynn effect and also the Woodley effect. I would consider the biggest cause to be uncontrolled immigration of low IQ non-Whites, followed by the effects of the welfare state on non-Whites with the effect of the welfare state among poor Whites and excessive careerism among middle and upper class White females to be the third biggest cause.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @John Johnson
  899. Mike Tre says:
    @Mark G.

    “Charles Murray has written, though, with the advent of testing and colleges looking for undiscovered talent that much of the undiscovered talent among poor Whites has already been found. ”

    I don’t agree with this conclusion. Testing and colleges is all retention and regurgitation. There’s no measure of practical application. Charles Murray, like many of his insulated, snobby counterparts, thinks the US was built in a classroom.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Mark G.
  900. @Jack D

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_dem_Bach-Zelewski

    Erich Julius Eberhard von dem Bach-Zelewski (born Erich Julius Eberhard von Zelewski; 1 March 1899 – 8 March 1972) was a German politician, military officer and high-ranking SS commander. During World War II, he was in charge of the Nazi security warfare against those designated by the regime as ideological enemies and any other persons deemed to present danger to the Nazi rule or Wehrmacht’s rear security in the occupied territories of Eastern Europe.

    Bach-Zelewski told Leo Alexander:

    I am the only living witness but I must say the truth. Contrary to the opinion of the National Socialists, that the Jews were a highly organized group, the appalling fact was that they had no organization whatsoever. The mass of the Jewish people were taken complete by surprise. They did not know at all what to do; they had no directives or slogans as to how they should act. This is the greatest lie of anti-Semitism because it gives the lie to that old slogan that the Jews are conspiring to dominate the world and that they are so highly organized. In reality, they had no organization of their own at all, not even an information service. If they had had some sort of organization, these people could have been saved by the millions, but instead, they were taken completely by surprise. Never before has a people gone as unsuspectingly to its disaster. Nothing was prepared. Absolutely nothing.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Jack D
  901. I come back, and it’s the same few commenters going ’round and ’round. I hope you two/three/four work it all out and solve the world’s problems.

    Hey, at least I know that what I say here doesn’t mean beans, but do y’all?

    And yes, Jack, Jews are responsible for something between 0% and 100% of the world’s problems.

    Blacks! are, on average, pretty stupid and violent.

    Somebody killed two or more of the Kennedys. Not the same somebody, but somebody, crazy or not.

    The Covid episode was awful, wherever it came from, and whichever of our freedoms we gave up for it — with Steve Sailer’s enthusiastic support. There are murmurings of another one… and another one… and on and on, so… well, you know.

    Lot’s of people have been getting killed and maimed in the Ukraine area.

    Lot’s of people have been getting killed and maimed in the Gaza area.

    There is a tariff/trade war on now, and you will pay more for some things.

    Gold is currently selling for $3,187.20 per ounce, and I personally have accumulated a shitload of ounces and kilos over the years, and I am happy.

    Happy shopping, Americans.

    Happy commenting, frustrated intellectuals with things to prove.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @Jack D
    , @Greta Handel
  902. J.Ross says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That is a very suspicious quote for multiple reasons. Even if genuine it’s clearly pandering (“I am so eeeeevil, ha ha ha!”).

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  903. J.Ross says:
    @Mike Tre

    Absolutely, plus the Big Cultural Message for my lifetime has been, “stay home, we don’t want you,” and a comfortable DMV snob like Murray and everyone in his class tolerated that blatant racism because (1) they already had theirs, and (2) they understood it applied to trash, whose own rise would be a black mark to their class.

  904. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Uh, not a math guy (Jews are probably responsible for almost no evil in those parts of Africa where there are no Jews [those arms dealers though]. Greenland is probably completely free from any evil transmitted by a Red Sea Pedestrian), but the whole point is it’s not a concession, it’s pretty obvious, and inevitable. Jews like to boast about being smart and hard working (and often it’s true), but, if they have a greater capacity for effect than the average goy, still nothing is yet claimed about their morality or the eventual character of that effect, and so they can be more effective for good or more effective for evil. Examples present themselves and have done so recently.

  905. Jack D says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The same thing happened on 10/7. One of the dangers of being articulate is that you can convince yourself (and others) of anything, even things that are completely false. Your irrational side tells you that you are in no danger as a psychological defense mechanism (denial) and your intellectual side then constructs elaborate rationalizations for why this is true. Hitler/Hamas would never do X because …. reasons.

  906. Mark G. says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “There is a tariff/ trade war on now”

    It looks like Trump may be backtracking on that some, putting a 90 day pause on them for most countries except China. He appears to be keeping a ten percent tariff on the other countries, though, which does not sound too bad.

    I think we will be backtracking on a lot of Trump’s plans. The plan to end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hours did not happen, did it? We were told everyone in my federal government building needed to start coming in five days a week. Somehow, though, the fact that we have twenty five hundred work stations but thirty five hundred workers did not occur to anyone so that plan has been put on pause. They put a hiring freeze in effect but people Ieaving has left a worker shortage and rapidly accumulating work backlog. No one thought of that happening? There is talk of lifting the freeze.

    Buzz, I like your comments here. I have always thought Steve has the best group of commenters here. You have a good variety of viewpoints among the commenters here in his comment sections.

  907. Jack D says:
    @Adam Smith

    Actually around 300,000? Fuck you. Give me my grandparents back, my aunts and uncles and baby cousins. Give me back all my parents’ friends and neighbors and classmates. Fuck you and your fucking denialism.

    • Troll: Moshe Def
  908. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I wouldn’t call most of the vile mouth breathing Jew haters who inhabit the remains of this site “intellectuals”. Do “intellectuals” move their lips when they read?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  909. @J.Ross

    Not just genuine. One among many.

  910. @epebble

    If you look at Bessent’s wikipedia page you find something I have not seen widely discussed.

    After graduating from Yale University in 1984, Bessent began a career in finance. He was hired by Soros Fund Management, eventually becoming the head of its London office. In this role, he was a leading member of the group that successfully bet on the 1992 sterling crisis, generating over $1 billion in profit for the firm.

    This was approximately the end of the country of Great Britain as any kind of influence apart from City of London banks. There has to be some great commentary in the British press about what is going on with his new prominence.

    • Replies: @epebble
  911. @Corpse Tooth

    Gene editing technologies used correctly have the ability to enhance human life. You are overlooking the data showing the deleterious effects of mRNA when used incorrectly i.e. as a vaccine.

    So where is the data?

    You called it “genetic medicine” so explain exactly as to which genes are being altered.

    Gene therapy is extremely expensive.
    https://www.drugdiscoverytrends.com/how-price-safety-and-efficacy-shape-the-cell-and-gene-therapy-landscape/

    If mRNA is altering genes then why isn’t it used for gene therapy?

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  912. Mark G. says:
    @Mike Tre

    Actually, Charles Murray thinks in the past there were people not going to college who should have been and more widespread standardized testing to find them helped to fix that. These days, though, Murray thinks too many people go to college and there should be more trade schools and on the job learning. I would agree with that. Much of the basic cultural knowledge everyone should know can be imparted at lower levels of education rather than in college, according to Murray.

    https://www.aei.org/articles/are-too-many-people-going-to-college-2/

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  913. @J.Ross

    Assuming your premise is correct, then it stands to reason that it would be a good idea to have good relations with Canada and Denmark (Greenland). Instead of gratuitously pissing them off.

  914. @Mark G.

    would consider the biggest cause to be uncontrolled immigration of low IQ non-Whites, followed by the effects of the welfare state on non-Whites with the effect of the welfare state among poor Whites and excessive careerism among middle and upper class White females to be the third biggest cause.

    I would actually bet that the latter is the largest cause. Welfare among poor Whites has always been exaggerated by conservatives. It’s almost entirely Medicaid and not cash for having babies as they seem to assume.

    There is an underestimation of how many college educated White women are not having kids. The cities are filled with White women working office and government jobs that barely pay the rent. Diversity enhanced areas have all these White women behind the scenes to keep the circus going. They fill out a lot of the assistant manager type positions. Better than minimum wage but no room for advancement.

    I actually don’t think that eliminating welfare would change anything. Intelligent White women have become convinced that anyone can have the kids and society will continue to function. In fact many of them harbor feelings of racial and environmental guilt. Even the ones that are aware of race can have a hard time getting over it and seeking their own happiness.

    In college it was quite apparent that White women were much more vulnerable to liberal messaging. They seemed to get some type of positive affirmation from it. They are much more egalitarian and group minded than men. There are of course exceptions but it was a general observation. Liberal men appeared to be mostly in it for access to women but it never worked for them. They were all friendzoned which made them bitter. Think White guys that were bullied in school and now see themselves as fighting “the man” even though they are just working against their own group interest.

  915. epebble says:
    @emil nikola richard

    Having been a predator once, he probably knows how not to become a prey. He probably sensed a 2025 dollar crisis may do to U.S. what the 1992 sterling crisis did to U.K. May be having him as the captain of The Apprentice team is a good move.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  916. A panel of three Biden appointed judges ruled in favor of the Second Amendment, upholding an injunction of Maine “waiting period” law.

    ATF Personnel changes have just been leaked to the press.

    Kash Patel is out and Daniel Driscoll is in as the interim ATF Director.

    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1910330495910429146
    https://twitter.com/JesseAPaul/status/1910446556953592144
    https://twitter.com/JohnRLottJr/status/1910329873127604292

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  917. @epebble

    The idea is to prevent data fishing by the government agent by simply removing the easy access.

    A Glock sitting on your car seat attracts attention, but the same thing inside a locked cash box doesn’t.

  918. @Colin Wright

    “That’s not really true. Poor schools and poor teachers allow failure and complete ignorance to become accepted as the norm. Obviously, you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear — but you can teach most people the three R’s, and you can get them used to the idea that they have to show up on time and work.”

    There aren’t a lot of really bad schools or really bad teachers in the United States. Or really good schools or really good teachers. Most are about the same. There is much more variation in the quality of the students. So suppose you have one school where the students are doing poorly and another school where the students are doing well. People think the first school must be bad with lousy teachers and the second school must be good with excellent teachers. But is a pretty safe bet that if you switched all the students between the two schools the good students would continue to perform well at the former “bad” school while the bad students would continue to perform badly at the former “good” student.

    Note it is still sensible for parents to want their children to attend a “good” school. But not because of the teachers but because of the fellow students. There is some tendency for students to move toward the class mean. So the worst students are pulled up a little and the best students are pulled down a little. So it is better for your kids to attend a school filled with good students than with bad students. This is more important than the quality of the teachers but not as important as the quality of the student.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  919. @Mark G.

    “Yes, you can rank job applicants by test scores and hire the ones with the highest scores. In many cases, though, the highest scorers will still make poor workers. For the third time, we have tests here and the people doing the best on them in many cases are not good workers after we hire them.”

    How familiar are you with the entire hiring process? Perhaps the best prospects are being discouraged from even applying. How do you know how well your co-workers scored compared to the applicant pool on your tests? And were the tests designed to identify good workers or to be “unbiased”?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Mark G.
  920. J.Ross says:

    [through drywall]
    RON! RONNN! THEY’RE GOING TO SCREW AMERICA, RON! THEY’RE GOING TO SCREW AMERICA BY PASSING THE BIGGEST TAX CUTS IN HISTORY! IT’S TERRIBLE!

  921. Curle says:
    @Greta Handel

    Whimmer

    The internet doesn’t know what this word means and neither do I. Care to share?

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Greta Handel
  922. J.Ross says:

    Houthis bend the knee. Under Bai Dien, Houthis sent our flagship fleeing. Under Trump, they’re begging for the bombing to stop and promising to stop attacking military ships (since Trump was elected, they had already stopped attacking US civilian vessels).
    https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/houthi-united-states-strikes-gaza-blockade-israel-shipping

  923. J.Ross says:
    @James B. Shearer

    And, how dare he talk about the current tests in the current year, at this place?

  924. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    The Israelis shooting up the Liberty is evidence of US support? Why were they shooting up their supporter?

    I don’t know. Ask them. But the US Government sure did cover for them.

    The Dimona reactor was provided by the French. Possibly the Israelis stole the fuel from the US. Again, this is the opposite of support.

    Not if they were allowed to steal it. They’ve stolen a lot more than that too. Like about 800 Krytron switches (formerly used in nuclear weapons) that Arnan Milchan and Bibi Netanyahu smuggled out of America to Israel. Neither of them have suffered any penalty for it. Netanyahu has been given standing ovations by the US Congress. Milchan is a successful movie producer. One of his friends, Roman Polanski made a move – Frantic – where the McGuffin was purloined Krytrons. Of course, in Polanski’s film, it’s some dastardly Arabs who are doing the smuggling. Talk about chutzpah.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  925. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    If you are persuaded by his arguments (I don’t think you are – you already believe the same bullshit) then you are as stupid as he is.

    There’s nothing stupid about my arguments. What would be stupid is being stampeded into a war by people like you.

    Do you really trust the Iranians not to use nukes? Any rational person would have told Sinwar that if he attacked Israel on 10/7, he would get himself killed, tens of thousands of Gazans would also die and the whole place would be flattened. But he did it anyway, for the glory of Allah or something. Same thing with Bin Laden – he was signing his own death warrant but he did it anyway, joyously.

    So? He’s not an Iranian.

    Americans always make the mistake of thinking that everyone is an American at heart and just wants to live peacefully and watch football and drink beer if given the chance. There are people who are motivated by the fanaticism of their devil worshiping religion and who love death, by their own confession. Please take them at their word.

    No, I don’t believe what you say about them. Sure, they’re world-view is foreign and alien to me, but that doesn’t mean they’re crazy. I haven’t noticed any of Iran’s leadership signing up for suicide missions.

    You know what else is alien to me? A little country, and its supporters, who think they can brow-beat and guilt-trip the rest of the World into supporting them, even when it isn’t in the interest of those being brow-beaten and guilt-tripped.

  926. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “Perhaps the best prospects are being discouraged from even applying.”

    You need to come up with your own theory on why that would be the case and tell me what it is. Government jobs are usually quite appealing because they pay more than comparable jobs in the private sector.

    “How do you know how well your coworkers scored compared to the applicant pool?”

    I already told you the applicant pool is worse than the people we hire because my boss tells me about who she rejected and what they were like. Yes, they might throw all the high score tests in the trash. Why would they be throwing all the high scoring White people tests in the trash, though, and sending through the dumb ones? I already told you I have seen a decline in the quality of White hires too over the last forty years.

    You are making me repeat what I already said, typical troll behavior. I checked your comment history. You appear to be a quarrelsome troll who always argues with others, is insulting, almost never agrees with anyone, almost never hits the agree or thanks button on anyone elses comments.

    You will not acknowledge average IQ levels in this country are likely dropping and that is happening because of people moving from low IQ countries to here, the welfare system paying poor people to have children, and feminism encouraging intelligent women to pursue careers and end up as middle aged cat ladies with no children. Do you deny this is taking place because you secretly approve of this and hope no one notices and tries to fix the problem?

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  927. J.Ross says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Polanski has generally been a critic of Israel and Frantic, besides being a great 80s movie and a response to the Stu Klaw allegation that Harrison Ford is a dutiful check collector, really went out of its way to show Israelis as terrorists. The ending has the Israelis and Arabs equated. It’s been years but I don’t recall tht the Arabs are the “bad guys,” it was very clearly more like they’re both the bad guys.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  928. Hail says: • Website
    @Curle

    Steve Sailer, when he controlled this comment-section ca. June 2014 to Feb. 2025, stated his policy as follows:

    COMMENTS MODERATED BY STEVE SAILER, AT WHIM.

    Greta Handel has jocularly suggested either:

    (1.) SS’ process of manually moderating the comments can be objecticized into the concept of a machine-like “Whimmer”; and/or

    (2.) Sailer (often) did not manually moderate the comments at all, but outsourced to an auto-script which he (Handel) calls “the Whimmer.” This system disfavored some people who were “Whimmed” into comment-appearance delays ranging from 12 to 72 hours, or sometimes which vanished entirely. Some commenters were placed on brown-lists for special moderation purposes, or their names tossed into the “Whimmer.” Others were put on white-lists and could post without restriction or substantial delay.

    Some have criticized Greta Handel for “whining about the Whimming.”

    • Thanks: Curle
    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
    , @Corvinus
  929. Hail says: • Website
    @Mark G.

    Steve did coin the phrase “invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world” to describe the policy our elites were following. That aligned him with the Pat Buchanan paleocons

    It’s a shame Pat Buchanan stopped writing about two years ago. It would be interesting to hear from him now, on the trade-protectionism controversy generally.

    (Whether the Trump-tariff imbroglio can be called “trade protectionism,” I’m not sure: its aim(s) continue to be unclear, always subject to arbitrary change and negotiation and made-for-tv dramatic turns).

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  930. Hail says: • Website

    Steve Sailer says the UK garbage-collection industry is under siege by “greedy feminist dogma run amok.” Mandated lower wages for males have led to a garbage/rubbish crisis:

    FEMINIST THEORY HAS TURNED BIRMINGHAM, UK INTO A STINKING RAT’S NEST

    Don’t look to the NYT to explain that to you, though.

    by Steve Sailer
    April 10, 2025

    ___________

    Here’s a classic upside down New York Times article that puts the interesting facts way down toward the bottom with practically indecipherable terseness about the cause of the catastrophe after dozens of paragraphs of human interest trivia about the garbagemen’s strike in Birmingham, UK:

    Welcome to Birmingham, England — Mind the Rats

    A standoff between garbage collectors and municipal officials in Britain’s second largest city has left an estimated 17,000 tons of trash on the streets.

    By Stephen Castle

    Stephen Castle visited Small Heath, Birmingham, joined a resident driving to a garbage and recycling facility and spoke with striking workers.

    April 4, 2025

    A pungent smell of rotting garbage fills the air. Bulging sacks of trash pile high, some spilling their festering contents. And, with vermin plaguing parts of the city, at least one resident has claimed to have been bitten by a rat.

    With its heritage as a manufacturing powerhouse and its proud civic history, Birmingham likes to call itself Britain’s second city.

    Right now, it’s the nation’s garbage capital.

    A standoff between striking refuse workers and city officials has left an estimated 17,000 tons of trash piled on city streets that is attracting rats, foxes, cockroaches and maggots.

    Why is there a garbage strike in Birmingham?

    The answer is actually quite interesting — greedy feminist dogma run amok in Labour-run Britain — but NYT subscribers don’t want to hear that. It gives them Bad Feelz.

    So, the most glancing reference to the cause of this disgusting situation is left unmentioned until this masterfully boring 24th paragraph:

    The origins of the dispute lie in 2023 when Birmingham City Council declared itself essentially bankrupt, partly as a result of equal pay cases brought by workers, and began to implement far-reaching cuts to services.

    The first link leads to an only slightly less opaque BBC article:

    Birmingham City Council is in financial crisis on multiple fronts.

    Equal pay claims of up to £760m are among the bills it cannot afford.

    But since the extent of the crisis was revealed last month, it has emerged the council thought it could originally settle the matter for just £120m.

    It would have happened via what is known as a “memorandum of understanding” with unions and staff.

    But this deal collapsed when the GMB union claimed it had found evidence the council was not properly implementing a crucial job evaluation scheme meant to ensure male and female employees were paid equally.

    You see, bin men, who are mostly men, were paid more by the city than people who held more genteel jobs, which are filled mostly by women, that didn’t involve lifting stinking heavy stuff. That’s supply and demand.

    But in a breakthrough in feminist theory, a judge determined that women in nice jobs should get paid as much as men doing nasty jobs, because women are Good and men are Bad. Or something.

    Handing out backpay bankrupted Birmingham and now it’s hard to hire enough bin men at the new lower wages:

    Lara Brown’s tweet thread explains what’s really going on:

    […] Birmingham Council have been finding ways to cut the pay of those in male dominated professions. […] The council is at a total impasse. They have to make these cuts – if they don’t they risk further equal pay lawsuits. They are bankrupt so they simply cannot afford to bring up the pay of cooks, social care workers, and cleaners instead. […] Refuse collection is tough work. Councils need to pay more in recognition of this. But, the workforce is also around 73% male. So will always be vulnerable to equal pay lawsuits. […] [E]qual pay for similar work, as deemed by a judge, is madness. It will bankrupt businesses and councils, and make it impossible to provide basic services.

    Well, that’s pretty interesting. But you don’t read the first half of New York Times articles to find out interesting stuff because some of that might be stuff you’d rather not know about how Your Team has, say, turned Birmingham, UK into a stinking rat’s nest.

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/feminist-theory-has-turned-birmingham

    Substack commenter Gilgamech says:

    Give the bin men full pay as long as they agree to all identify as women!

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  931. @Mark G.

    “You need to come up with your own theory on why that would be the case and tell me what it is. Government jobs are usually quite appealing because they pay more than comparable jobs in the private sector.”

    The government wants to hire fewer white people. Discouraging white people from applying is one way to do that. Getting rid of the merit tests is another.

    Government jobs may pay more if you are incompetent. I expect competent people can usually do better working for an employer who values competence. The fact that the applicant pool you are seeing is lousy should be a hint that federal jobs aren’t actually that appealing.

    “You will not acknowledge average IQ levels in this country are likely dropping and that is happening because of people moving from low IQ countries to here, the welfare system paying poor people to have children, and feminism encouraging intelligent women to pursue careers and end up as middle aged cat ladies with no children. Do you deny this is taking place because you secretly approve of this and hope no one notices and tries to fix the problem?”

    Where have I denied that this is taking place? It just doesn’t have much of anything to do with whether the government should go back to merit hiring which you seem to be opposed to for some reason.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  932. @Corvinus

    When did I say that?

    My vague impression is that you said that 8/18/2024.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  933. @Curle

    Hail’s reply focuses on the mechanics and is too whitewashy, IMO.

    After years of ignoring complaints and snarky obfuscation (“walking the dog”), Sailer eventually admitted that he moderated on the basis of “quality of commenter [sic],” his own whitewash for amplifying people who flattered his opinions, sent him money, or offered weak opposition while holding up critical, often better comments for hours or days. This, and the consequent attrition of those of us who didn’t want to put up with it, helped him to maintain an undeserved reputation among his largely sycophantic base. Some played (or stayed) dumb about it for years.

    There’s still an unWhimmed, thorough discussion — including a real time proof, starting with comment #90, that documents the favor shown and cover given Jack D and That Would Be Telling in a contemporaneous Sailer thread — at https://www.unz.com/aanglin/biden-has-covid-white-house-mammy-says-that-it-doesnt-matter-how-he-got-it-because-everyone-gets-it/
    Just keep in mind that the upthread, overwhelmingly heterodox blueberries are no longer and only were briefly apparent in the Sailer threads; his chicken$hit tracks were always covered each time someone returned to the page.

    My relentless bitching just may have put me over the threshold for charter membership here in whatever Sailer’s old blog has become.

  934. @Buzz Mohawk

    This one reminds me of Fred Reed, Buzz.

    I waited years for a fair forum here with the gang. If nothing else, the first few new era threads have shown why some found Sailer’s old flypaper so tasty.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  935. You ever see that great movie “Arrival”, where the mysterious space aliens bring humanity to the very brink of mutual nuclear war, in order to teach us the Universal Language which moves back and forth in space-time? The best sci-fi movie in recent times is about…. LINGUISTICS!

    In the same way, this piece is the Universal Language: if you want to win somebody over, then learn to play this. If you have a son or a nephew and you want to do them a favor, then transcribe this for guitar or piano, and make them learn to play it — they will never want for a friend or a girlfriend ever again. I have seen a guy quiet down a rowdy union hall full of hundreds of angry dudes, just by playing this. It stops everything — would probably stop the war in Ukraine if you could get the right people in the right room.

    p.s. I’ll tip youse to a little show-biz trick… always COMMIT. Sir Paul would probably kill me for telling youse this, but the trick to just killing with this song is not to be a great singer, it is to sing it with your entire lungs!

  936. For further discussion…

    Take off your thinking caps for a moment, and just listen. What do these two great songs have in common?

    and then this…

    Let’s all just hope nobody shoots Billie at age 40.

  937. @Jack D

    Don’t overestimate “intellectuals”. I don’t know whether Heidegger was an intellectual, but certainly was a man of intellect. And here he is ..

    • Replies: @muggles
  938. @Corvinus

    The first law on citizenship in the United States limited it to whites only. See the the Naturalization Act of 1790.

    You are not a “radical individualist” anyway. You are just using that lingo here to push anti-Whitism. You aren’t on any Black, or Asian or Latino sites saying this.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  939. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    What do these two great songs have in common?

    You filmed both?

    • LOL: Old Prude
  940. @Hail

    “Whimming” is my new favorite word. I like dropping it in casual conversations. For instance, my neighbor was complaining that his wife was giving him a hard time about taking a week off work to go turkey hunting this spring. I told him she just needed a good whimming.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  941. @Jack D

    Lol! Jews ❤️ blood libels.

    Eh, Shlomo, didja hear the Hubbubites eat babies?

    Oy vey, Moshe, that’s awwwwwful! Welp, that means we get to kill them, take all their shtuff, and shtupp their women.

    It surrrrrrre does, Shlomo!

    Jews: profiting off blood libels since 3000 BC.

  942. @YetAnotherAnon

    Uncle Sam was the midwife of the new industrialised Japan

    Britain and its Jew bankers, who hated the Tsar, were the sponsors of new industrialised Japan which sank the Russian Pacific Fleet:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Japanese_Alliance

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewen_Cameron_(banker)

    Maybe Mr. Fingleton obfuscated that due to who his publishers are?

    Japan, Soviets and America are the midwives of modern PRC.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_direct_investment_in_China#Sources

    But these days Americans like to alone claim credit.

    My original point is that the relationship between America’s takedown of the Rising Sun would-be-juggernaut and Sino-American cooperation is obvious:

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  943. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “The government wants to higher fewer White people.”

    Yes, but for the third time, the Whites they are hiring are less competent than the ones they hired in the past. I do not think they decided to start tossing out high White test scores and start hiring dumber Whites. Also, the affirmative action non-White hires are less competent than the affirmative action hires of the past. I do not think they started hiring dumber non-Whites rather than the smarter ones. I think the dysgenic effects of our immigration and welfare systems is leading to lower average IQ levels and making it harder to find competent people to hire.

    I support merit based hiring. However, even if you’d had merit based hiring over the last forty years, there would have been drops in competency levels among federal workers. You do not just see a drop in competency among government workers. It is something happening nationwide. The percentage of above average IQ Whites is dropping in America. We are slowly headed in the direction of countries like South Africa where the electrical grid goes down or nothing comes out when you turn on the faucet. We need to fix our immigration and welfare systems to improve competency levels in this country.

    • Agree: deep anonymous
  944. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    The British might have given up their Palestinian mandate in any case after WW2 – Zionist terror against British personnel played a role in this – but lack of US support for the British position, mainly because of the already powerful Zionist lobby in the USA, virtually guaranteed the mandate would be given up.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  945. @Jack D

    I hope you are consistent and apply that same logic to Russia, who lost 20-million odd in WW2.

    When they see German bases being used as planning HQ for attacks on Russia, and the NATO front line moving to Russia’s borders, surely Russia are justified in saying “NEVER AGAIN” ?

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk, Adam Smith
  946. @Sam Hildebrand

    Whimmin. Can’t go turkey hunting with ‘im, can’t live without ‘im.

    • LOL: Sam Hildebrand
  947. Old Prude says:
    @Mark G.

    Studying geology in Boulder. Must have been post grad work after getting a BS in geology in Little Rock. Puuuurrrfect!

  948. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I would argue (based admittedly almost wholly on Fingleton’s work, but he was FT Japan correspondent for two decades) that Japan’s flatlining GDP is more apparent in the figures (from Japan’s government) than the actuality. And Japan has every interest in keeping the myth of failure alive – to prevent the US getting upset about the trade imbalances.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/the-true-story-of-japans-economic-success.html

    It is true that Japanese housing prices have never returned to the ludicrous highs they briefly touched in the wild final stage of the boom. Neither has the Tokyo stock market. But the strength of Japan’s economy and its people is evident in many ways. There are a number of facts and figures that don’t quite square with Japan’s image as the laughingstock of the business pages:

    • Japan’s average life expectancy at birth grew by 4.2 years — to 83 years from 78.8 years — between 1989 and 2009. This means the Japanese now typically live 4.8 years longer than Americans. The progress, moreover, was achieved in spite of, rather than because of, diet. The Japanese people are eating more Western food than ever. The key driver has been better health care.

    • Japan has made remarkable strides in Internet infrastructure. Although as late as the mid-1990s it was ridiculed as lagging, it has now turned the tables. In a recent survey by Akamai Technologies, of the 50 cities in the world with the fastest Internet service, 38 were in Japan, compared to only 3 in the United States.

    • Measured from the end of 1989, the yen has risen 87 percent against the U.S. dollar and 94 percent against the British pound. It has even risen against that traditional icon of monetary rectitude, the Swiss franc.

    • The unemployment rate is 4.2 percent, about half of that in the United States.

    • According to skyscraperpage.com, a Web site that tracks major buildings around the world, 81 high-rise buildings taller than 500 feet have been constructed in Tokyo since the “lost decades” began. That compares with 64 in New York, 48 in Chicago, and 7 in Los Angeles.

    • Japan’s current account surplus — the widest measure of its trade — totaled $196 billion in 2010, up more than threefold since 1989. By comparison, America’s current account deficit ballooned to $471 billion from $99 billion in that time. Although in the 1990s the conventional wisdom was that as a result of China’s rise Japan would be a major loser and the United States a major winner, it has not turned out that way. Japan has increased its exports to China more than 14-fold since 1989 and Chinese-Japanese bilateral trade remains in broad balance.

    As longtime Japan watchers like Ivan P. Hall and Clyde V. Prestowitz Jr. point out, the fallacy of the “lost decades” story is apparent to American visitors the moment they set foot in the country. Typically starting their journeys at such potent symbols of American infrastructural decay as Kennedy or Dulles airports, they land at Japanese airports that have been extensively expanded and modernized in recent years.

    Although previously there had been much envy of Japan abroad (and serious talk of protectionist measures), in the new circumstances post-crash American and European trade negotiators switched to feeling sorry for the “fallen giant.” Nothing if not fast learners, Japanese trade negotiators have been appealing for sympathy ever since.

    Clearly the question of what has really happened to Japan is of first-order geopolitical importance. In a stunning refutation of American conventional wisdom, Japan has not missed a beat in building an ever more sophisticated industrial base. That this is not more obvious is a tribute in part to the fact that Japanese manufacturers have graduated to making so-called producers’ goods. These typically consist of advanced components or materials, or precision production equipment. They may be invisible to the consumer, yet without them the modern world literally would not exist. This sort of manufacturing, which is both highly capital-intensive and highly know-how-intensive, was virtually monopolized by the United States in the 1950s and 1960s and constituted the essence of American economic leadership.

    Japan’s achievement is all the more impressive for the fact that its major competitors — Germany, South Korea, Taiwan and, of course, China — have hardly been standing still. The world has gone through a rapid industrial revolution in the last two decades thanks to the “targeting” of manufacturing by many East Asian nations. Yet Japan’s trade surpluses have risen.

  949. Old Prude says:
    @Joe Stalin

    OK, Mr. Stalin, I tried to watch that first video because I had to wait 72hrs to get my wife her birthday present [a SW M&P EZ .380 ACP], so I had some personal interest. Sorry, after listening to the guy blather for a few minutes, I stopped watching. These videos are such a waste of time.

    Mine and yours.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  950. Jack D says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Funny you should say – my dad was an illiterate fisherman (actually he could read Yiddish and Hebrew but he was illiterate in any language written in the Roman alphabet). Actually I think the “sons of illiterate fishermen” thing is still going on. My kids have various friends whose parents were Asian, Mexican, Jamaican, etc. menials but their kids attended Ivy League schools and did well. The Asian ones at least did not get AA.

    I don’t think that that’s the problem with the system. The problem is the “college for all” paradigm. College should really be reserved for a relatively small % of the population that can actually benefit from it. Anyone with SATs below say 500 on either section (this would be around 1/2 of all SAT takers and 2/3 of the blacks who take the SAT) is not really college material and should be channeled into a different form of vocational education.

  951. Mr. Anon says:
    @J.Ross

    I haven’t seen the movie. But my point was that it makes out the Arabs as the ones who desire to get hold of the nuclear weapon components. That is a convenient misdirection, is it not?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  952. @kaganovitch

    Try seeing this from a broader, more principled perspective. What you’re missing is that Letitia James took a different path, but parallel to those trod previously by people like St. Mueller’s altar boy, Andrew Napolitano, right here at TUR. Did VDARE take up for Manning, Snowden, Assange, the black socialists targeted in 2023?

    Sorry for the delayed reply. I wasn’t initially sure that I understood your point, and then forgot about this one.

  953. J.Ross says:
    @Mr. Anon

    No, it’s not, not when Arabs are trying to do bad things, and in the context of the movie the two are equated.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  954. Mark G. says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “What do these two great songs have in common?”

    “Help” by the Beatles and “Birds of a Feather” by Billie Eilish both use variations of the 1-6-2-5 chord progression. The Beatles frequently used variations of this chord progression in songs like “Help”, “Norwegian Wood”, “Hey Jude” and “Let it Be”.

    Billie has said the Beatles is her favorite band. As a child, her mother started teaching her Beatles songs at the age of five. Her family would have family singalongs where they sang Beatles songs. Billie has said her favorite song is “Julia” off the Beatles White Album.

  955. Mr. Anon says:
    @J.Ross

    No, it’s not, not when Arabs are trying to do bad things, and in the context of the movie the two are equated.

    Actual spies who stole American nuclear technology………….Israelis.

    Movie spies who steal American nuclear technology……………Arabs.

    That sure seems like misdirection to me.

    You are being willfully obtuse.

    • Agree: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  956. Did Trump blink when bonds slid?

    Did the vigilantes win?

    If so, he may blink again, which would be a sad, Liz Truss-like way for MAGA to end. If the US can’t battle China economically now, will they be better able in five years? This should have been happening in 2005, not 2025.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2025/apr/11/donald-trump-tariffs-trade-war-us-china-markets-latest-news-updates#top-of-blog

    “The latest lurch down followed US confirmation that the cumulative tariff rate on China was now 145%, leading to more widespread selling of Treasuries with the concomitant rise in yields, such as the 10-year note which jumped to 4.4% and is on course for its largest weekly rise since the turn of the century.

    There is also some speculation that the US moves have resulted in some unintended consequences, with the possibility that a proportion of the selling is actually coming from China, who are moving out of their Treasury exposure”

    “He who draws his sword against his prince should throw away the scabbard”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Mark G.
  957. @Mark G.

    But… I was told that dysgenic fertility has always been Our Greatest Strength™.

  958. Corvinus says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “Did Trump blink when bonds slid?”

    Of course he did. And you and Hail and AlfredNeumann are suckers. Why? Because it’s a grift on his part, you miserable f—-.

    https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/as-stocks-tank-following-trumps-tariffs-marjorie-taylor-greene-sees-an-opportunity-buys-stocks-worth-thousands-of-dollars/amp_articleshow/120207722.cms

  959. @Mark G.

    Thanks, that is a much more technically precise thing than what I was going to point out, which is Caveman Grug simpler: both songwriters are in love with controlled tension, and are willing to wait practically forever with one tonal suspension piled up after another before they finally resolve it. And when they finally do resolve it, the resolution is itself tonally complex, not a simple ritornello.

    Think of it this way: “Heartbreak Hotel” by Elvis/Lieber and Stoller, resolves itself tonally almost *immediately* upon announcing itself. Billie and Lennon wait just about forever to get there.

    The other thing I would say, lyrically, is that they share a certain thematic complex similarity: Billie’s lyrical take is sort of archetypically feminine, John’s is overtly masculine. (“I am strong and determined and forward-moving, yet somehow unable to continue without your necessary girly-girl assistance and support.”)

    One time when I was a youngster, I was standing in the bathroom one morning, shaving. As I was shaving, my girlfriend came in and stood behind me watching, with a big grin on her face. I asked, “What’s so funny, what are you doing?” She replied, “I am standing behind my man — because behind every great man stands a woman!” Some things are just true no matter what.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  960. Corvinus says:
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    “The first law on citizenship in the United States limited it to whites only. See the the Naturalization Act of 1790”

    Right, a product of the times. It was a law enacted by Congress. But in the Preamble, it says “for our posterity”, and given how the national character changed over time, and with the inclusion of different races and ethnic groups into our body politic, those laws changed as well. That is free association in action.

    You are way in over your head here.

    “You are just using that lingo here to push anti-Whitism.”

    No, you’re just throwing around that term. Besides, you have yet to define it specifically and offer particular examples. It’s ok to admit that you lack the intellectual horsepower to clearly articulate it.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  961. @epebble

    I am reminded of the George Knapp Tom DeLonge interview where Tom said if the CIA murdered Kennedy he was sure they must have had a really good reason.

    I don’t understand Finance. I take comfort in the fact that Financiers don’t either except they try and do what the head hoodlum wants. Or what they think the head hoodlum wants. Or what the head hoodlum told them to do yesterday before he had that meeting with the other head hoodlum.

    • Replies: @epebble
  962. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Let’s all just hope nobody shoots Billie at age 40.”

    Here’s a sort of Sailer-flavored fish-hook:

    Genius Irishmen who peaked early, then hit sort of a slump, then died suddenly at 40 while making a comeback…

    Oscar Wilde, Frank O’Hara, John Lennon. Maybe Brendan Behan too if you fudge the numbers a little, but I doubt he was actually recovering.

  963. @Greta Handel

    Are there a lot of people who consider Sailer’s moderation system anti social and hold a bit of a grudge toward “people who flattered his opinions, sent him money, or offered weak opposition”? That definitely works against whatever that German word for cozy is.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  964. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Let’s all just hope nobody shoots Billie at age 40.

    Uh-oh, you done jinxed her!

    More likely cause of early death: mauled to death by her pit bull friends.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-going-to-happen-in-the-la-fires/#comment-6949208 (#153)

  965. @Old Prude

    Studying geology in Boulder. Must have been post grad work after getting a BS in geology in Little Rock. Puuuurrrfect!

    And to cap it off, a PhD at Cornell.

  966. J.Ross says:
    @emil nikola richard

    Gemutlich.
    Has Ron (or anyone) seen the Israel Hayom article? You know or will know the one I mean.

    • Replies: @res
  967. @James B. Shearer

    ‘…There aren’t a lot of really bad schools or really bad teachers in the United States. Or really good schools or really good teachers. Most are about the same… ‘

    In my experience, and I do have some, that’s not really true. Even when schools draw on more or less the same ethno-economic base and student body, they can vary quite a bit.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  968. epebble says:
    @emil nikola richard

    If you search for news under “Bond market”, you see strange headlines that sound like the captain of Titanic reassuring you that ‘we took some ice’. What should one make of:

    The bond market is acting weird. It spooked Trump
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-bond-market-is-acting-weird-it-spooked-trump/ar-AA1CIiXc

    Creaking US bond market signals danger still lurks
    https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/creaking-us-bond-market-signals-danger-still-lurks-mcgeever-2025-04-09/

    Inside Trump’s tariff retreat: How fears of a bond market catastrophe convinced Trump to hit the pause button

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inside-trump-s-tariff-retreat-how-fears-of-a-bond-market-catastrophe-convinced-trump-to-hit-the-pause-button/ar-AA1CCSqr

    How bond market helped make Trump blink on tariffs: ‘I was watching it.’
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/how-bond-market-helped-make-trump-blink-on-tariffs-i-was-watching-it/ar-AA1CHfp9

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  969. @Jack D

    ‘You’re just rewriting history to suit your antisemitism…’

    Au contraire. Either you’re genuinely and grossly ignorant, or you’re arguing in bad faith. Read up on the background of the UN Partition Resolution that permitted Israel to come into being in the first place, for starters.

  970. Corvinus says:
    @Hail

    Looks like the Globalists won the Trump tariff pause. But you keep foolishly believing he is on your side.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-09/billionaires-score-best-ever-day-as-tariff-pause-jolts-market

  971. @Wielgus

    The British might have given up their Palestinian mandate in any case after WW2 – Zionist terror against British personnel played a role in this – but lack of US support for the British position, mainly because of the already powerful Zionist lobby in the USA, virtually guaranteed the mandate would be given up.

    Here, it’s interesting to contemplate what would have happened in such a scenario. Abdullah of Transjordan was a British client — and he was angling to annex Palestine, with the Jews under his protection. He engaged in abortive negotiations with the Zionists in pursuit of this.

    One suspects the British would have been all for it — and absent US support for the alternative, the Jews would have had little choice but to accept.

    What would have happened after that is uncertain — but it’s a safe bet Abdullah never would have permitted the massive influx of Oriental and African Jews that historically occurred after 1948.

    Israel as we know it never would have come into being.

  972. @Old Prude

    These videos are such a waste of time.

    Well, he has a twitter account to explain the legalities of the multitudinous court decisions being made on the 2A.

    https://twitter.com/fourboxesdiner

    So does Washington Gun Law.

    https://twitter.com/GunWashington

    For a quick take, Bearing Arms. and 2Aupdates.

    https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom
    https://twitter.com/2Aupdates

    For the deep dive, Kostas Moros.

    https://twitter.com/MorosKostas

    Yeah, I agree that much of legal mumble jumbo is boring, but let’s face it, the 2A community didn’t create the current situation. The gun controllers with their massive billionaire funding have created the situation; most of what’s happening is reactive and occurring at the state level.

    But certainly, Mark Smith is one smart dude and shows how to argue something,

    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  973. @epebble

    OTOH all of these are TDS sites.

    As a Guardian watcher I can report that “Trump caved”is already a thing, along with the Chinese meme of an iPhone production line staffed by overweight Americans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/11/the-big-lesson-for-europe-trump-backed-down-under-pressure

    I have no idea if he caved or not.

  974. muggles says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There are tons of liberal Jewish (American) journalists & TV host shows who are explicit about their opinion that Israel is a terrorist colonial enterprise & has no right to exist at all.

    And?

    Nothing

    Dumbass.

    I hate to name call here but you are either deliberately lying or are willfully ignorant.

    This entire subject is about foreign student visa holders in the US.

    The fact that some American Jews dislike current Israeli policy towards Gaza and echo the pro Gazan line (as do some Israelis in Israel) has zero to do with the subject of deportation of student visa holders and others who, when public ally vocal about supporting (official terrorist group in question) Hamas recently by the State Department.

    When you are here as a “guest “of the US government, you have to be mindful of that status.

    The Trump administration has taken a different view of that guest status than did Biden and public protest about policies supporting official terrorist labeled groups.

    Does the government of wherever you live have a different view of foreign guests publicly supporting groups they have labeled as “terrorists”? Which have killed citizens of that nation?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  975. J.Ross says:
    @res

    No, this one. Trying to establish if this is a good translation or if this has already been debunked. Tldr systematic child sexual abuse.
    https://williambowles.info/2025/04/11/israel-girls-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-reveal-the-horrors-investigative-report-by-israelhayom/
    Original Hebrew (mysteriously “translate page” fails):
    https://www.israelhayom.co.il/magazine/shishabat/article/17668103
    Interestingly, the method anticipates/parallels MONARCH and rhymes with circumcision. It’s essentially Stockholm Syndrome. Some time in the ancient near-east, someone discovered that a person in a position of total powerlessness experiencing trauma embraces slavery because in their extended deep panic they will accept even their abuser to get them through the artificial crisis. Childhood sexual trauma as a kind of brainwashing.

    • Thanks: emil nikola richard
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  976. epebble says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The all-important 10-year treasuries is touching 4.6% and the 30-year bond is kissing 5%. These are generally considered signs of distress. Corresponding numbers for Germany are 2.6% and 2.9%. Japan 10-year bonds are 1.34%. There is ’emerging market’ feel to U.S. numbers. If we had German rates, our federal debt alone would cost about $600 billion less per year (at Japanese rates, savings would be a cool $1 trillion per year!).

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  977. @J.Ross

    But Jewish gangsters would still have existed and, as after other catastrophes, they would have just done something else.

    But with what effect and to what extent is another matter. I don’t see the bulk of Jews as engaged in consciously criminal behavior.

    Without an Israel, wouldn’t the bulk of American Jews simply have assimilated all the more? We’d still have a JackD here — but his Jewishness would simply have never come up. He himself might rarely think about it.

    Many of the Jews I have known have been more akin to Asian-Americans than mighty warriors of Yahweh. They consciously or unconsciously adopt white gentile norms and imitate white behavior patterns. Go backpacking, take up fly fishing, buy a pick up…

    Modern secular Jewish identity largely rests on identification with Israel and worship of the Holocaust.

    Well, what would be left without Israel? Most ethnicities can point to some collective historical trauma or other. What Poles went through is not enough to make Martha Stewart an advocate for Polishness — and I wouldn’t be surprised if JackD found himself going weeks without thinking about his Jewishness. At any rate, absent Israel surely Jewish identity would be that much weaker.

  978. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You know, it’s fucking stupid and disingenuous what Zionist apologists tell us in their efforts to deflect our minds and our discourse from the fucking pain in the ass that is Israel

    Your intemperate attitude here is getting worse. So, people who support the existence of Israel should just “shut up’? How about supporters of Muslim terrorism?

    The Zionist Jews (some not all Jews) got their “state” post WWII and WWI when the Turks were on the wrong side in WWI. The Brits, who took over Palestine post WWI, decided after WWII that letting persecuted Zionist Jews back to their Biblical homeland was a solution to a problem for them.

    That was in 1948, before you (maybe) and I were born. And before nearly all Gazans were born.

    I am not Jewish, and neither I or virtually all of the Jews I know or have known support “Zionism”.

    But it is now a historical fact of reality. Despite numerous attacks by neighboring Arab Muslim states to displace “Israel” from former Palestine. Israel has prevailed and now is a nuclear armed state. They aren’t leaving.

    Anti-Israel policies by most (not all) neighboring states is mainly used to prop up their local dictatorships by demonizing Izrael to distract citizens from their own horrible governments.

    No one has ever made a cause celeb over the fact that Iran and Saudi Arabia have long claimed that their territories are “holy places” where non-Muslims (or the “wrong kind of Muslims”) cannot visit or live. Certain places there are considered part of their religious heritage and must always be owned by Muslims.

    This is “Muslim Zionism”.

    Non-Jews (Arab Muslims) can be and are legal citizens of Israel and can reside there peacefully. Even Christians. Certain citizenship rights are limited, just like for non-Muslims in Arab nations.

    Why do you care as an American about something that happened far away in 1948?

    Do you now hate Italians for the Roman conquest of Gaul (now France) circa 40 BC for their killing and enslavement of millions of Gauls? After all, it was long ago. Romans either stayed there or eventually left.

    Eventually the Arabs will tire of attacking Israel (like some now) and the entire issue will be moot.

    It’s not our problem whether or not the Romans or Jews barged in some territory and took over before we were born.

    I’m not interested in being a stooge for Arab dictators and their mercenary mafias. Italy and France now get along well, for the most part (some horse trading over the eastern Riveria, now France again.)

  979. J.Ross says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    He didn’t cave, explanation below, but:
    1 — They’re always lying, and lying wildly. So they’re lying again. Stop giving them attention.
    2 — This doesn’t actually look chaotic, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was in a written plan. See explanation.
    3 — There’s a raft of perfectly credentialled, mainstream, non-fringe experts who talked about and advocated for this stuff, see Oren Cass article. This is not completely insane random craziness cooked up by Trump alone, it’s actually standard economics.
    Oren Cass article:
    https://www.understandingamerica.co/p/the-one-word-that-explains-globalizations?open=false
    Explanation:
    Trump made a big opening threat (like he always does every single time the same way and it’s always a surprise) and then gauged the reaction. Good kids bad kids. Good kids fall into line and say they want to bargain. Okay, to facilitate bargaining, the tarriffs are technically still pending but they’re suspended for ninety days. We might let them go into effect, we might bargain but still reject their offer, hopefully we come up with something good. Bad kids don’t want to bargain. No ninety day pause plus now the tarriffs are bigger. In other words, rationality, clearly a plan.
    This is being reported by college graduates as TRUMP FLYING BY SEAT OF PANTS, SURRENDERS TO CHINA, ALL TARRIFFS WERE ON NOW ALL OF THEM ARE OFF.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  980. HA says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “OTOH all of these are TDS sites.”

    Yes, that must because they failed to note — as did our own in-the-know MAGA loons just 30 days ago — that Trump was PURPOSELY TRYING TO CRUSH THE MARKETS BY 20% in order to spur a FLIGHT TO TREASURIES and thereby take money from the rich and give it to the poor. (Because only the rich buy stocks, while the poors and homeless prefer to to invest their big piles of cash in T-bills, or something like that.) I mean, that “sounds right”, doesn’t it? J Ross told us so!

    Alas, the Rothschilds must have read that comment, too, what with their fancy space-laser technology that MTG warned us about (although we’ve already known for decades that they can make it snow in NY in April) and laser-zapped that flight to treasuries by causing treasury yields to go up instead of down. Drats –foiled again!

    “I have no idea if he caved or not.”

    That’s right, now that the strategy has colossally failed, we’re back to “it was always just a bargaining chip, don’t be silly”.

    Of course it was. It’s like when the bully is about to pound your face in at the schoolyard but then sees your big brother walking towards you, and then he starts swearing that he was just kidding around, don’t be a baby, and why is everyone so touchy these days?

  981. now that the strategy has colossally failed

    Not sure about that. Tariffs on one hand, weaker dollar on the other, either way, good for US manufacturing. Trump’s a genius!!!!

    If China were to sell a significant amount of US Treasuries, it could put downward pressure on the value of the US dollar. This could have implications for international trade, as a weaker dollar could make US exports more competitive but also increase the cost of imports.

    • Replies: @HA
  982. vinteuil says:

    Anybody else catch Douglas Murray on the Joe Rogan podcast, going full neocon?

    He comes across as the ultimate caricature of a pompous Brit toff.

  983. @Hail

    The tanned gentleman in the woodshed is the UK Equalities Act 2010, the last bequest of Gordon Brown’s Labour Party administration.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_2010

    https://www.acas.org.uk/equal-pay/equal-pay-law

    By law, men and women must get equal pay for doing ‘equal work’. This is work that equal pay law classes as the same, similar, equivalent or of equal value.

    And in this lies the aforementioned gentleman. Is a dinner lady or teaching assistant doing work of equal value to a dustman or road sweeper? Let a court decide! Brilliant!

    By law, ‘equal work’ counts as either:

    ‘like work’ – work where the job and skills are the same or similar
    ‘work rated as equivalent’ – work that’s found to be equivalent, usually using a job evaluation process. This could be because the level of skill, responsibility and effort needed to do the work are equivalent
    ‘work of equal value’ – work that is not similar but is of equal value. This could be because the level of skill, training, responsibility or demands of the working conditions are of equal value
    Some jobs can be classed as equal work, even if the roles seem different. For example, a clerical job and a warehouse job might be classed as equal work.

    Now we used to have this thing called “the market” that decided wage rates reasonably efficiently – if you didn’t pay enough no one would work for you. Employers solved that by lobbying/bribing governments to bring in people for whom a crap wage and a crap house was still better than where they currently lived.

    This means someone must not get less pay compared to someone who is both:

    the other sex to them
    doing equal work for the same employer or an ‘associated’ employer

    This is a particular issue for councils because they employ a lot of very disparate people doing a lot of very disparate things. So the scope for “equal value” arguing is vast.

    Say a computer analyst works for a financial company and a nurse works in a hospital – his mistakes (assuming he’s not in air traffic control or aircraft software) aren’t going to kill anyone – at worst someone might lose money, while her bad decisions can literally cost lives. Her job is higher value than his. Yet most software bods earn more than nurses, usually quite a bit more. Fortunately for the software guys, few of their employers also hire nurses. I assume Birmingham City Council don’t.

  984. Mike Tre says:
    @Mark G.

    The second comment you cited by Murray somewhat contradicts the first. Even so, the second comment doesn’t prove or disprove anything about his erroneous conclusion that white potential has been tapped.

    Hard not to consider the reason Murray is pushing more trade school is because he doesn’t like keeping company in the hallways with people he feels he is superior to (but relies on when he needs someone to unclog his toilet or fix his HVAC.)

  985. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “So reference the quote”

    JFC, there is no quote to reference. It’s simple—YOU are opposed to racial quotas as mandated by the government and/or by businesses. That is YOUR position. Don’t play dumb or coy. Yet, you want to put in place a cap on the number of Jews in certain occupations. You’re a f— hypocrite.

    “Happily, I can overcome my moral scruples on this score.”

    Since when? YOU endorse a return to white/black segregation.

    “The only thing lacking to make this perfect would for you to be a real big Israel fan.”

    Nope. Not a fan of Bibi’s policies nor how Israel is jackbooting Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  986. Corvinus says:
    @Adam Smith

    “ free association in action…”

    No, that is the enforcement of a court order in action.

    In the first photograph, that is a white man who got beat up by his fellow whites for defending the rights of blacks to go to a school that was to be integrated. Perhaps you get your kicks to use physical force in this fashion. I don’t.

    In the other photographs, the National Guard as ordered by President Eisenhower are enforcing the law, specifically that segregation in public schools is illegal per a Supreme Court ruling.

    All southern states had to do was guarantee separate but equal as mandated in the Plessy case. Instead, they patently ignored it for decades. Hence, the use of the legal system by whites and blacks to seek redress grievances; in this instance, the implementation of Jim Crow.

    Looks like you, Achmed E. Newman, and Mike Tre support the return of black-white segregation. That’s f—- insane.

  987. HA says:
    @Sam Hildebrand

    “Not sure about that. Tariffs on one hand, weaker dollar on the other, either way, good for US manufacturing….”

    You forgot about low gas prices, but yeah, sure. He MEANT to do that. Where have I have heard that one?

    Yessir, that weak dollar is what Trump was aiming for all along. He kept repeating that over and over during the campaigns, didn’t he? “If I win, you are three days away from the best jobs, the biggest paycheck, the brightest economic future that the world has ever seen…” Let me think: if the dollar becomes worth what a dime will buy now and our paychecks go up by five, are we really better off? Of course we are — our paychecks are HUGE. Biggest ever! Yeah, it all makes sense now, just like that flight to treasuries. Or wait, was that just what he PRETENDED this was about so he could fool the Rothschild space lasers?

    I mean, has Navarro been “sidelined” as reported, or is that “fake news” as he claims? When will that great financial guru Ron Vara appear and settle the matter?

    Are all these tit-for-tat trade wars and burning Cybertrucks exactly what Trump was aiming for? Now that I think of it, that reminds me of the one about how when the Russian sanctions set in, Putin trolls were praising the Russian 4d chess grandmaster for finally getting Russia out of the corrupt Jew-financed system. Then again, maybe not. I guess we can’t be sure.

    Certainly that weak ruble that resulted from those sanctions has worked out splenderifabulogically for Putin hasn’t it? It’s helping fuel his war economy, just like the one we’re going to need when we invade Greenland, am I right? Or wait, is the Greenland swipe just another bargaining chip?

    That’s the thing about 4d chess — so many angles! Only the MAGA elites can appreciate the mastery on display. The rest of us just have to settle for “not sure”, which is another thing that has all of a sudden become a feature instead of a bug. That rope-a-dope will-he won’t-he tariff-one-day and pause the next, is exactly the kind of rock solid stability on which a resurgence of US manufacturing will be based. The MAGA people told us so! Or did they? Guess we’ll have to settle for not sure.

    • Replies: @HA
    , @Sam Hildebrand
  988. J.Ross says:
    @J.Ross

    That is, obviously, the tarriffs on the bargaining nations are suspended, the tarriffs on non-bargaining nations are not.

  989. @muggles

    So, people who support the existence of Israel should just “shut up’? How about supporters of Muslim terrorism?

    Yes that would be great. If you are American just keep your mouth shut. It is not our fight. It is their fight. Let them sort it out. Let the toughest assholes win.

  990. @J.Ross

    ‘No, this one. Trying to establish if this is a good translation or if this has already been debunked. Tldr systematic child sexual abuse.
    https://williambowles.info/2025/04/11/israel-girls-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-reveal-the-horrors-investigative-report-by-israelhayom/’

    If it would be true anywhere, Israel would be the place. The stories keep getting suppressed, but they seem to have incredible rates of sexual abuse.

    The Israeli newspaper Haaretz is pretty hostile to the haredim. About twenty years ago, they got going on reporting cases of child rape and incest, etc in the haredi community. For a while there, the stories were coming weekly, if not daily. Really revolting stuff. Fifteen year old boys handing off their six year old sister to their friends, etc.

    Then Haaretz seem to have worked this precise form of publicity wasn’t good for the Jews…or something. At any rate, the stories stopped.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  991. @Corvinus

    Looks like you, Achmed E. Newman, and Mike Tre support the return of black-white segregation…

    I cannot speak for Achmed nor Mike but my modest proposal is to put all the Blacks! squatting in America on ships and take them halfway back to Africa. Blacks! have been a millstone around White America’s neck for far too long. It’s time to solve the problem.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Mike Tre
  992. SafeNow says:

    I had occasion recently to research advice to a young man on the important occasion of meeting the girl’s parents. It’s just what you would expect. Dress nicely, sit-up straight, turn-off phone, bring a gift, and don’t forget that the girlfriend is there too. It struck me as a sad commentary on today’s young people that tutorials are needed for these things. I can see giving subtle advice. Like, if the family is Italian, practice eating spaghetti using a spoon.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  993. HA says:
    @HA

    “when the Russian sanctions set in, Putin trolls were praising the Russian 4d chess grandmaster for finally getting Russia out of the corrupt Jew-financed [banking] system.”

    Oh, look! Right on cue, the same Unz people who were telling us that sanctions would actually work wonders for Putin are telling us how swell those tariffs are gonna work for the US, for much the same reasons…

    PSYCH! They’re saying this is actually a BAD thing. Specifically, “It’s all bad.” Even Grok tells us so, or something. (I guess when Moscow fully stops funding Ron’s back bench of content churners, he can always just let them go and use Grok and the other A-1 stuff McMahon is pushing for to make up for any slack, and good for Whitney to start putting the wheels on that in motion.)

    I guess in the end we just can’t be sure about anything. Or, as the article notes (citing The Toronto Star, “Trump [has launched] the Golden age of Stupid.” Which means the only one who WAS sure all along was Mike Judge. President Camacho, we salute you!

  994. @HA

    Yessir, that weak dollar is what Trump was aiming for all along. He kept repeating that over and over during the campaigns, didn’t he?

    A well started dog is broke from off game, and will tree on its own with 75% accuracy. A few slicks & dens here & there. Even the best hound is gonna slick at some point. It’s more important to understand why the dog is throwing its head up on a slick. A well started hound may have some puppy stuff to work out, but will tree coons. Maybe they ain’t a lock down, stay put & see ya when you get here tree dog yet, or maybe they still struggle on a track that’s bad cold or way too hot. Could be they struggle in bad weather, rough terrain or in the …

    wait I’m on the wrong forum. I only post on two sites, UNZ and a coon hunting site, and let me tell you those coon hunting guys are brutal. Sorry I got confused. Where was I, oh responding to HA. That reminds me, HA are you from Missouri? We have a state park named after your kin:

    With its intriguing history and outstanding geologic features, Ha Ha Tonka State Park is one state park that should not be missed. The park is a geologic wonderland featuring sinkholes, caves, a huge natural bridge, sheer bluffs and Missouri’s 12th-largest spring. The ruins of a turn-of-the-century stone castle overlook these wonders and offer impressive views of the Lake of the Ozarks and Ha Ha Tonka Spring.

    Back to HA’s post. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Trump and his followers are idiots and Trump’s plan to bring back manufacturing never included a weak dollar. Well Harvard seemed to think Trump was pushing for a weaker dollar last July while campaigning.

    July 25, 2024, Opinion: “Donald Trump believes that devaluing the dollar will restore America’s manufacturing sector to its former glory.

    https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/mrcbg/programs/growthpolicy/will-trump-get-his-wish-weaker-dollar

    • LOL: J.Ross, Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @HA
  995. HA says:
    @Sam Hildebrand

    “Well Harvard seemed to think Trump was pushing for a weaker dollar last July while campaigning.”

    Oh, so we’re now supposed to believe what TDS-afflicted Harvard wonks tell us about Trump policies? Good to know. So many angles in that 4d chess, and all that back-and-forth is giving me whiplash.

    But if that’s the case, then let’s hear the rest of his spiel:

    Exchange rates are famously difficult to explain, much less predict, but one empirical regularity across a wide range of currency pairs and historical circumstances is that there tends to be some convergence back to mean whenever the real exchange rate is far out of line. The pace is not necessarily rapid, typically taking around three years for a real-exchange-rate overvaluation to reduce by half, but it is nevertheless quite discernable in the data…This means that there is some truth to the assertion that the dollar is too strong. Moreover, it implies that Trump would more likely than not get lucky with the dollar, even if he does nothing. The same would be true if Kamala Harris wins the presidency.

    The case of Japan – still the world’s fourth largest economy – is a good, albeit extreme, example of this dynamic. Over the past three years, the yen has lost roughly one-third of its value against the dollar, even though cumulative inflation in the United States has been far higher. Japan has struggled to sustain even 2% inflation, while US inflation over the course of Joe Biden’s presidency has been close to 20%. Previously one of the most expensive advanced economies in the world to visit, Japan is now one of the cheapest. The Chinese renminbi has also been falling.

    In other words, we don’t need to simultaneously crush the markets and spike the treasury yields (no matter how much the unwashed masses stuffing their sleeping bags with treasuries over in the homeless shelter are rooting for the latter). Maybe we don’t need a world-wide tariff war either, and who knows, maybe we can all survive without swiping Greenland. Fingers crossed. In other words, the only dopes in this herky jerky rope-a-dope are the ones vainly attempting to defend it.

  996. J.Ross says:
    @Colin Wright

    And that’s just their own children! They’re a major human trafficking hub (as is their science project, the Ukraine). Perhaps you heard recently about Guatemala. Happy Passover!
    I am interested in this point about deeply scarring a person through sexual abuse, not (just) for pleasure, but for control. It just instantly clarifies what circumcision is. It overlaps with so much and confirms and is confirmed by so much. Even terminology echoes — when I got to the line about the destruction of the soul, I immediately thought about Lafayette Hubbard’s “soul cracking” idea, which is the same thing but with an adult.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  997. @Greta Handel

    I’m Jewish so I’m biased, but I can still evaluate things fairly.

    What the far right (which is what I’m presuming you are) don’t understand is that most people inherently don’t give a shit about the Palestinians. Israel could literally start gassing Palestinians en masse tomorrow, live stream it on Twitter, and nobody in Western countries (or any non Islamic country, really) would care. The only people who would care would be perennial losers like yourself and other commentors on this blog. There is nothing you can do that will ever change humanity’s overwhelming apathy towards the plight of the Palestinians.

    And to the Palestinians, you can add the Iranians as well. And really any other Arab/Islamic population. Nobody cares how many of them die.

    So when you criticize Trump for being bad for the Palestinians, you are just screaming into the ether. You are saying Trump is bad because he is killing Yemeni’s, deporting anti Israel activists, prepping for war with Iran and enabling the slaughter of Gazans but for the American electorate, their response is always just gonna be “… and?”

    You are alone. You always will be. Nobody is coming to save you. Your only potential source of comfort is that soon all Palestinians (and then the Iranians) will be dead so you won’t have to witness there suffering any longer.

  998. J.Ross says:

    Even Oryx, a laughably dishonest pro-Ukrainian propaganda outlet, has admitted that the completely pointless Kursk blunder has cost Kiev more vehicles than Russia. Read Simplicius.
    https://t.co/R0MIzniAIT

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
  999. @muggles

    As you already know, Rumeysa Ozturk did or said nothing “supporting (official terrorist group in question) Hamas.”

    Why do you keep rationalizing the tyranny in this way?

    • Replies: @muggles
  1000. Corvinus says:
    @kaganovitch

    So, you don’t know. Thanks.

  1001. @SafeNow

    Like, if the family is Italian, practice eating spaghetti using a spoon.

    I tried that and I failed. I didn’t practice, and her father just looked at me. He’s the one who asked me, “What are you, a Swede?”

    I think it is best to just go with what you know, instead of trying things you don’t know just because you think that is what is expected. That would have been better for me at least. I wasn’t going to fool anybody that I was Italian!

    • Replies: @bomag
  1002. Corvinus says:
    @Adam Smith

    “I cannot speak for Achmed nor Mike”

    You don’t have to. They foolishly agree with you.

    “but my modest proposal is to put all the Blacks! squatting in America on ships and take them halfway back to Africa.”

    Except 1) that’s a pipe dream and 2) that’s insane.

    “It’s time to solve the problem”

    But you don’t have any realistic solutions. I’m not surprised though. You’re not that bright.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  1003. @J.Ross

    It just instantly clarifies what circumcision is.

    Yes!

  1004. muggles says:
    @Adam Smith

    Good point w/ the photo.

    Oilfield work is usually well paid but hard work, long hours much of which is far from home.

    For those willing to do hard work, stay sober and drug free, pay is excellent. No degrees needed other than for higher level managers or superintendents. Even those historically were promoted without needing college. Though that helps nowadays.

    Much of it almost all, is on the job learning, but also many trade skills like welding or even electrical.

    It is a form of mining and like mining, you work hard but can do well. Sometimes dangerous but so is Uber driving.

    Nearly all White but minorities can succeed if they want, usually. Very few women try. Fewer stay with it.

    Nearly all the physical stuff we use is originally mined in some fashioned.

    I spent some time in the oil patch years ago and I never met anyone educated at an Ivy League university. But a lot of Cajuns, Texans, Okies, etc.

    These workers are reviled and distained by the Woke/Dem elites. Like other miners and field workers in construction, they are invisible to media/intellectual elites.

    To the mostly bi-coastal elites, they are invisible Deplorables who need to stay quiet and do what they are told to do.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  1005. muggles says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Also, a Nazi sympathizer, yes?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  1006. Corvinus says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    He did cave. You’re f—- being dishonest if you say you don’t know.

  1007. muggles says:
    @Greta Handel

    As you already know, Rumeysa Ozturk did or said nothing “supporting (official terrorist group in question) Hamas.”

    I know nothing of the sort.

    Evidently the US State Department did believe that. I am not them.

    You could have cited the actual facts given by the State Dept on this, instead of just whimming me with accusations.

    If you believe this act was unfair or unjust, use facts. Not chide me over something “I already know.”

    Personally, I am not a fan of these deportations unless they involve acts which shut down public places and disrupt others. Or attack others (Jews) who they wish to blame for things happening elsewhere.

    However, unlike you I don’t shed tears for public advocates of terrorism. That involves killing American citizens at times.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  1008. Mark G. says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “I have no idea if he caved or not.”

    Peter Schiff said on his podcast Trump did cave. Schiff saw the bond market beginning to crash Wednesday night and thinks Bessant and other Trump advisors went into a panic and talked Trump into suspending the tariffs. Schiff said the same thing will happen if they try it again so, rather than have that happen, the suspension will end up being permanent.

    Schiff had predicted the 2008 crash before it happened and had been predicting enacting those tariffs would lead to what did. Schiff has been encouraging people to buy gold for years. I followed that advice and have made a lot of money.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @epebble
  1009. HA says:
    @J.Ross

    “Even Oryx, a laughably dishonest pro-Ukrainian propaganda outlet, has admitted that the completely pointless Kursk blunder has cost Kiev more vehicles than Russia. “

    OF COURSE Kursk is going to be more costly for the Ukrainians, given that it is an OFFENSIVE operation, and those are EXPECTED to burn through more of everything than would a defensive operation. Didn’t your Simpleton guru ever tell you about the old 3:1 rule that is often cited in such comparisons? So were the Ukrainian losses three times as much as the Russians’ or were they considerably less? Judging by the rough estimate count of lines in your spreadsheet, the Ukrainian losses WERE ONLY 16% HIGHER (869 vs 751) DESPITE THIS BEING AN OFFENSIVE OPERATION, NOT THE 300% ONE WOULD TYPICALLY EXPECT.

    Moreover, let’s remember that these days Russia, is reduced to using MOTORBIKES, and DONKEYS for their “special” little military operations, so yeah, their losses of all those missing tanks they’re unable to scrounge up and send to the battlefield in the first place does make for less of a dent in their equipment loss.

    So all in all, that’s not really the “win” you’re making it out to be, is it?

    This makes about as much sense as the bogus study you cited a few days ago with a sample-size-of-one in which the “victim” died a full year and a half after his COVID shot, and even the authors of the predatory-publishing scam journal in which this “research” was printed would only go so far as to say the vaccine could have “POTENTIALLY played a role”. I’m still chuckling over that one, and from the looks of things, this is par for the course, even down to the fact that Mark G was gullible enough to slap a “Thanks” on it, just like he did last time. Why do you keep assuming that no one will call you out on your idiocy?

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    , @res
  1010. @Corvinus

    Yeah you don’t believe anything you say. You are just grabbing rando “arguments” to justify the ongoing program of white genocide.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1011. J.Ross says:
    @Mark G.

    He didn’t “suspend the tarriffs” and anyone talking about “the tarriffs” without distinction between retaliation and negotiation is not worth listening to.

  1012. @muggles

    Who but a tool or a fool can type “the actual facts given by the State Dept” with a straight face?

    If you believe this act was unfair or unjust, use facts. Not chide me over something “I already know.”

    We’ve already done this dance upthread, remember? Here’s where our last conversation about Ms. Ozturk was left – by you – at #664 a few days ago:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7072081
    Still waiting for you to show us where in her college newspaper op-ed this “public advocat[e] of terrorism” touched you, Marco muggles.

    • Replies: @muggles
  1013. @Mark G.

    “Yes, but for the third time, the Whites they are hiring are less competent than the ones they hired in the past. …”

    That’s what happens when you lower standards, you lower standards for everybody. I believe Sailer had some posts about how an explicit quota system would have been less damaging.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1014. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Achmed. I was able to post a comment with Hail and your instructions, but the youtube URL I tried to post (“Heart and Soul,” featuring Loggia and Hanks) was still a no-go.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  1015. @Corvinus

    ‘”So reference the quote”

    JFC, there is no quote to reference. It’s simple—YOU are opposed to racial quotas as mandated by the government and/or by businesses. That is YOUR position..’.

    I love it. Sort of self-evident truth, is it, then? No evidence is required? OF COURSE you need offer no evidence for your claim.

    Somebody do something. Corvinus has escaped from the tenth century. IT’S A TIME WARP!!!

    But seriously. This is like catching one-two year-old Smallmouths. I mean, it’s kind of stupid — but it is fun.

    Here we go, Corvinus…something bright and shiny. Hey! It’s moving…

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @muggles
  1016. @muggles

    “Non-Jews (Arab Muslims) can be and are legal citizens of Israel and can reside there peacefully. Even Christians. Certain citizenship rights are limited, just like for non-Muslims in Arab nations.”

    But this deal (to become second class citizens) was never offered to the West Bank or Gaza Strip residents. In my view when you conquer a land as Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza Strip you become responsible for the people living there. But Israel wanted the land but not the people and never has accepted that they have any responsibility towards them. So they have done a bad job of ruling them which not surprisingly has produced bad results.

  1017. @Nicholas Stix

    Greetings, Mr. Stix,

    This one?

    I’ve never had any trouble pasting a link (youtube or otherwise) in the comments on PeakStupidity. (Has to be plain text, no HTML code.) Not sure what happened or why you had troubles, but go try again, if you like. Achmed’s site is a little primitive, but it works. You’ll get the hang of it.

    In any case, I hope you have a nice weekend!

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Nicholas Stix
  1018. Mike Tre says:
    @Adam Smith

    “Looks like you, Achmed E. Newman, and Mike Tre support the return of black-white segregation…”

    Reply to the Curved Anus via Adam Smith:

    It’s known as freedom of association, you monosyllabic mouth breather.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
    • Troll: Corvinus
  1019. @Colin Wright

    “In my experience, and I do have some, that’s not really true. Even when schools draw on more or less the same ethno-economic base and student body, they can vary quite a bit.”

    Do the differences show up in the academic test scores? If you have examples of pairs of schools where you think one is doing significantly better than the other with similar quality students I would be interested.

  1020. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “That’s what happens when you lower standards”

    Why would they lower standards and pick lower quality Whites for federal government jobs when they could get higher quality Whites? That is absurd that you would even suggest that. No, they started hiring lower quality Whites because the numbers of above average IQ Whites are shrinking as a percentage of the total White population due to the welfare system paying poor Whites to have children and feminism encouraging middle and upper class White women to focus on careers rather than have children.

    The same thing is happening with non-Whites. The more intelligent ones are not reproducing at the same rate as the less intelligent ones. In addition to this, there is a flood of immigrants coming in from low IQ countries. The result of all this is an overall declining national IQ.

    You really are being a troll here. I certainly hope that you are not really this stupid and are just trying to get me to waste time saying the same thing over and over again. Keep this up, troll, and I will just start using that troll button Ron Unz kindly provided us.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    , @res
  1021. The Trump Administration just won a major ruling in front of the Supreme Court, though the media has reported this as a major loss for President Trump.

    William Kirk discusses HR 38, a National Concealed Carry Reciprocity bill that has made it through markup in the House and now can advance in the hopes of passing.

    Greg Bishop airs some of the debate from Thursday evening where the Illinois Senate approved a measure requiring safe gun storage with penalties for not reporting lost and stolen firearms. [No one hates IL residents like Dems!!!]

    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1910725635304988721
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1910855164619100208
    https://twitter.com/JohnRLottJr/status/1910781440809226579

  1022. J.Ross says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The ending of the movie [spoiler alert] is Ford’s character throwing the item into the Seine and snarling that the opponents deserve each other or are the same or something like that. The Israelis are shown as cowardly and cruel. Polanski has not exactly been a Zionist in his statements in interviews.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1023. @Mark G.

    “Why would they lower standards and pick lower quality Whites for federal government jobs when they could get higher quality Whites? That is absurd that you would even suggest that. …”

    Maybe Steve Sailer can explain better than I can:

    “One other thing to keep in mind is that a stark quota or separate standards for separate groups can sometimes be less destructive to job performance than lowering standards for everybody. If we establish a quota saying that 10% of the Fire Department must be female, or that female applicants only have to be able to carry 125 pound people, that may well kill fewer citizens than applying the 125 pound standard to everybody regardless of sex. Under the two systems of blatant favoritism toward women, male firefighters will still have to meet the higher standard.”

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1024. J.Ross says:

    https://www.jpost.com/international/article-849243
    ATLANTIS failed, DOGE succeeded. The impenetrable Hamas tunnels were built by a Palestinian-American billionaire using USAID cash. Hey Jew! Don’t make it sad! Recall how Bai Dien, had tried to %$#@ you. In a complete surprise, in addition to the JCPOA and the, ah, Bai dien administration “advice” about Gaza, there’s also this. Hey, Mossad. Are you feeling that old assassination itch? I’ll let you have one for free after this. Obviously who we mean, not serving. Every day as an anti-Semite I enjoy three pleasures: [four if you count Jewish female beauty, five if that one news story is true, you know the one, that would be so silly if IDF soldieresses were to tackle me and cut off my oxygen, how silly, hahaha] American Jews don’t speak Hebrew, the man who follows Jewish human interest stories is never bored, and .. Well, hell, I’m toasted. What was I saying? Look, stand by thd Lion.

  1025. Corvinus says:
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    “Yeah you don’t believe anything you say.”

    Once again, anti-white is an empty slogan if you are not willing to fully explain its meaning.

    “justify the ongoing program of white genocide.”

    According to who?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1026. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Once again, anti-white is an empty slogan if you are not willing to fully explain its meaning.

    It’s self explanatory, you stupid douche-nozzle.

  1027. Mr. Anon says:
    @J.Ross

    The ending of the movie [spoiler alert] is Ford’s character throwing the item into the Seine and snarling that the opponents deserve each other or are the same or something like that.

    So? Again, it inverts what actually happened.

    The Israelis are shown as cowardly and cruel. Polanski has not exactly been a Zionist in his statements in interviews.

    Not my point. Words have meanings. Learn them.

  1028. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    To apply what Steve is saying to IQ, that would mean if a job normally requires a 110 IQ but most Blacks can’t reach that level then having a quota of ten percent Black hires and only requiring an 80 IQ for them is better than only requiring an 80 IQ for both Blacks and Whites.

    Let’s imagine that they did say only an IQ of 80 IQ is required for both Blacks and Whites. They would still pick the 110 IQ Whites over the 80 IQ Whites. They would not pick the 80 IQ Whites, even though they meet the 80 IQ requirement, when 110 IQ Whites are available.

    Let’s imagine instead Blacks only need an 80 IQ but we will limit them to ten percent of hires while ninety percent of hires are White and we require they have a 110 IQ. They are not going to hire 80 IQ Whites here either if 110 IQ Whites are available. Under neither of these two scenarios will they hire the lower IQ Whites.

    We are hiring lower IQ Whites than in the past, though, as evidenced by declining competency levels. I just showed you they would not do that if higher IQ Whites are available. If we are hiring lower IQ Whites, it must be because higher IQ Whites are not available in the numbers needed to fill all the job openings. That is because there is a shrinking pool of higher IQ Whites because poor low IQ White females get welfare money to have kids while more intelligent White women are encouraged to pursue careers rather than have children. James, I have told you this multiple times now and will not continue if you can’t grasp it or if I think you are a troll purposely wasting my time by playing dumb and making me repeat myself.

  1029. “Let’s imagine that they did say only an IQ of 80 IQ is required for both Blacks and Whites. They would still pick the 110 IQ Whites over the 80 IQ Whites. They would not pick the 80 IQ Whites, even though they meet the 80 IQ requirement, when 110 IQ Whites are available.”

    I don’t think that is how it works. In fact they design a test that 80 IQ people can pass and just report whether you passed or failed. So 80 IQ and 110 IQ whites get equal credit for the test. But maybe the 80 IQ white is a veteran and the 110 IQ white isn’t. This moves the 80 IQ white ahead of the 110 IQ white. If you have decided the difference between 110 IQ and 80 IQ is unimportant then hiring will be decided by other factors and sometimes the 80 IQ candidate will get the job.

    This was Sailer’s point. If they only test whether you can lift 110 pounds then they can’t give preference to the men who can lift 200 pounds over the men who can only lift 110 pounds. If the government doesn’t use a test that can distinguish between 80 IQ and 110 IQ it is difficult to hire on that basis.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1030. @Jack D

    Thanks for all that interesting commentary.

    Actually I have a rather complicated bone to pick with you, but before I get into it, it sort of requires a bit of background to be set up first. Here is some of it, from the great post-punk guitarist D. Boon of “the Minutemen”, from their utterly brilliant masterpiece record “Double Nickels on the Dime”……

    When you’re dealing with post-punk, it would be a strategic mistake to try and separate the lyrical content from the musical, meaning you have to try and find a way to swallow it all whole.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=minutemen+political+song+for+michael+jackson+to+sing+lyrics&sca_esv=3bea377ccf617f2a&source=hp&ei=Vhb5Z9O1Me7cptQP8KfNoQM&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ_kkZr2JfHvLl4i9pNZBPHiBkGxKq4Ju&oq=minutemen+politi&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhBtaW51dGVtZW4gcG9saXRpKgIIATIFEC4YgAQyBRAAGIAEMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgUQABjvBTIIEAAYgAQYogRIvT1QiApY5ylwAHgAkAEAmAHHAaABgw2qAQQxMi41uAEByAEA-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&sclient=gws-wiz

  1031. Curle says:
    @Jack D

    It seems like you may have forgotten about certain unpleasant events which immediately preceded the formation of Israel.

    Their role as the managerial apparatus of the various Bolshevik terror states?

  1032. @HA

    “OF COURSE Kursk is going to be more costly for the Ukrainians, given that it is an OFFENSIVE operation, and those are EXPECTED to burn through more of everything than would a defensive operation. …”

    This doesn’t exactly refute their point that it was a stupid thing for the Ukrainians to do. If you are already at a disadvantage in what has become a war of attrition because your opponent has a bigger population than you it is unwise to expend your limited manpower in offensive operations without a compelling reason. The only good thing about the offensive from the Ukrainian point of view was that it caught the Russians by surprise. Having done that maybe they should have retreated back to their side of the border rather than trying to defend an exposed position. The Russians have had the good sense to retreat when militarily indicated.

    And is it true that the Russians routed the Ukrainians at the end by sending troops through the shut down gas pipeline? If so it was quite dumb of the Ukrainians to be unprepared for this.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
    , @John Johnson
  1033. Hail says: • Website
    @Adam Smith

    From https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3215:

    Peak Stupidity

    ________

    Heart and Soul – T’Pau
    In Topics: Music

    (Not to be confused with Heart and Soul by Huey Lewis & The News.)

    This song came out of nowhere into my head a few days back. I didn’t realize until I just now looked it up that the song is 38 years old! I don’t know if I’d ever known the name of this British band, T’Pau and definitely I didn’t know the singer Carol Decker. The band was from in Shrewsbury, Shropshire. Now THAT was England, then.

    Heart and Soul is from T’Pau’s debut album Bridge of Spies. The melody of the verses is not so hot and kind of proto-rap, but the chorus is very catchy. You heard it here first… or something. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, Peakers. Thanks so much for reading and writing in!

    Oh, well, I’ve got Huey Lewis’s song in my head now too, so here’s there one. These 2 together give out quite the ’80’s vibe.

    Written and first recorded by the band Exile in 1981, this song was released by Huey Lewis & The News in 1984, 3 years before the T’Pau song.

    Recent comments:

    Nicholas Stix
    Monday – April 7th 2025
    PS

    When I hear “Heart and Soul,” I think of this.

    That’s the late, great Bob Loggia, and a fellow who was a pretty big deal during the ‘90s.

    I can’t seem to get this youtube url to post.

    Moderator [known, to some, as A. E. Newman]
    Thursday – April 10th 2025

    PS: Mr. Stix, this is by far no Unz Review as far as functionality goes. I have spent ZERO time on the software since ’18 or so. I know, I should.

    You should be able to just paste in the link the the song by Bob Loggia. I’d paste it in here myself, but I don’t know which song you were referring to (same name or not?)

    I added your name to your fuller comment and deleted the earlier dupe.

    One more thing: Once a week goes by or so, I don’t see many people writing in under older posts. That’s to be expected with the lack of “New comments” functionality. All you can do is look for the count to go up.

    I’ll write you on TUR to let you know I did at least read this one. Thanks for coming onto this site!

    https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3215

    ___
    ______
    _________
    ______
    ___

    The latest from the Peak Stupidity central office:

    Radio Daze and the Nielson Ratings
    Friday – April 11th 2025
    In Topics: Salesmen | Media Stupidity

    https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3229

    Further thoughts from the coffee shop
    Posted On: Wednesday – April 9th 2025
    In Topics: Lefty Mega Stupidity | Music | Muh Generation

    https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3227

    • Replies: @bomag
  1034. Well just for kicks, for your dining and dancing pleasure….

    I was flying into
    Chicago at night, watching
    The lake turn the sky
    Into blue-green smoke;
    The sun was setting
    To the left of the plane,
    And the cabin was filled
    With an un-earthly glow.

    In 27-D, I was behind the wing
    Watching landscape roll out
    Like credits
    On a movie screen:
    The Earth looked like it was
    Lit from within,
    Like a poorly-assembled
    Electrical ball; as we moved
    Out of the farmlands,
    And into the grid,
    The plan of the city
    Was all that you saw.

    I used to teach that bit in writing classes, as an example of expert observation. Thank you, Liz. Not quite as good as Frank O’Hara, but pretty f#cking close.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Old Prude
  1035. Curle says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The thing I like about O’Hara is the way he portrays the American elite and in Rage to Live presages their greater alienation from the rest of us by ending with the Caldwell Tate’s relocation from rural PA to NYC. The portrayal of fraternity culture if not unique is nevertheless an interesting addition.

    BTW – Buffalo Springfield catching my imagination lately.

  1036. bomag says:
    @Hail

    Thanks; was always intrigued by T’Pau’s Heart and Soul; enjoyed the belted-out chorus in contrast to the mellow stanzas. Heard in an interview is was meant to be a Rap attempt.

    Liked this version of N. Stix’s mention; also has Chopsticks to give us the two most common plinking songs.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1037. Now even UR is using the c-word.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-economic-aftermath-of-trumps-liberation-day-tariffs/

    Trump’s pivot wasn’t a victory, but rather a surrender and a way to save face. Trump tanked global markets and then backed down a day later without getting any concessions from anyone. Thus, it is absurd to say that it is Trump playing 4D chess or that it is his brilliant “art of the deal”, as his press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said. Some are speculating that it was an insider trading scam for Trump insiders to short the markets, but it is also possible that Trump is just winging it and has no plan for how it will work out.

    In term 1, the Trump team was full of people who didn’t want to Make America Great Again. Now they do, but I have some issues with the methodology. To start with, IF firms are to move production to the US, they’ll want a relatively stable business environment. Admittedly it IS early days, but stability so far isn’t a term I’m seeing bandied about.

    The Far Eastern conquest of manufacturing started and continued very quietly, targeting only key industries and technologies (I remember visiting a UK carbon fibre plant in the early 70s – it’s still there, but meanwhile Japan’s Toray have conquered the globe). UK leaders were losing their empire, so didn’t care much about all their shipyards closing.

    https://www.fingleton.net/the-long-arm-of-japanese-industrial-policy-northern-irelands-experience/

    What does Japanese “targeting” mean? The term refers to a pattern for the Japanese state to make common cause with Japanese corporations in a no-holds-barred effort to seize leadership in important global industries. Some tactics are more covert than others and not infrequently they are completely unethical. But we needn’t dwell on this as in reality one of the most effective Japanese tactics was the relatively mentionable one of keeping the yen massively undervalued. To that end Japanese officials organised cast-of-thousands pantomimes aimed at convincing visiting foreigners that Japan was a Third World country and thus posed no threat to the advanced industries on which the West’s economic success was based. Thus although worker productivity in the Japanese shipbuilding industry was broadly on a par with the UK industry, London acquiesced in a hugely undervalued yen. This meant that the wage bills Japanese shipbuilders had to pay were little more than half of UK levels. With a cost advantage on that scale, the Japanese soon had the entire UK shipbuilding industry on the run. Cities like Newcastle, Glasgow, and Liverpool soon felt the impact but nowhere were the consequences more lamentable than in Belfast.

    OTOH I don’t think the US can exactly do a Japan. They had big, open Western markets to sell into. Rebuilding manufacturing will be difficult and will almost require a wartime mentality. Unfortunately a lot of Americans (and even more Europeans) detest Trump and will be wanting him to fail, even at a cost to the US economy.

    Still, as Churchill said, “errors towards the enemy should be lightly judged”. China have been putting off this moment for as long as possible, because with every year the US grew weaker and China grew stronger. At least the Donald recognises there’s a serious problem.

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @epebble
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  1038. “John Lennon and Paul McCartney had ‘erotic component’ to friendship, were ‘turned on by each other’: author https://trib.al/FobwhGh”

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1910757176571732460

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1039. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Everyone just assumed he was pro-white because he talked about race and genetics. But you can talk about those things and be as liberal or even anti-white as can be.

    I first came across Sailer in the 90s and one of the first things that I noticed about him is that he doesn’t have much good to say about whites. Yes, there are some great geniuses among us, but mostly, we are the midwits of humanity, caught somewhere between Asians and Jews, and blacks…. and we certainly all know what he thinks of midwits. Someone like that is not going to be concerned about our well-being, and his strategies are not going to save us.

    I wouldn’t consider him high-brow, either. He likes opera, but that’s about as high-brow as liking theater. Mostly, he just carries on like a teen about silly rock bands or baseball, which is what George Will did to to show that he has the common touch.

    He can get triggered and nasty over minor things, but it’s always towards the wrong type of white. He could just be self-controlled opposition. Who knows or cares?

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  1040. @Mark G.

    We are hiring lower IQ Whites than in the past, though, as evidenced by declining competency levels. I just showed you they would not do that if higher IQ Whites are available. If we are hiring lower IQ Whites, it must be because higher IQ Whites are not available in the numbers needed to fill all the job openings.

    I’ve never had a government job, other than a short time teaching. When I was younger and in college, I did lots of manufacturing and warehouse jobs because they allowed me to pay rent and tuition, and my experience at more than one company is that HR types believe that supervisory and labor jobs are doable by anyone, and that is where they filled their quotas. A white with a 110 or greater iq is going to take a backseat to any kind of minority for hiring and promotions, which is why American workplaces are so chaotic and violent, and American manufactured products don’t compete in many cases.

    These HR and upwardly mobile types are now becoming the victims of the AA that they enforced for everyone else. It’s funny to watch, but it’s also a sure sign that the nation is coming apart and going down the tubes.

  1041. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    What you are saying is they lower the pass score so an 80 IQ White can pass it and it creates a large pool of White applicants and they more or less hire them randomly from among that group. If White IQ were stable over time then the IQ of Whites hired randomly would remain stable. However, the IQ of White hires is dropping, which indicates the White population as a whole has a dropping IQ.

    Yes, the percentage of non-Whites hired is increasing and that is lowering the average IQ of workers hired. They may be able to increase non-White hires by dumbing down the test. I have been telling you, though, within just the pool of Whites hired I am seeing a decline in IQ and competency levels. Also, within the pool of non-White hires they seem less intelligent than in the past.

    There are two separate things going on. The native workforce quality is dropping since smart females are increasingly not having children and the government is giving money to poor low IQ women when they have children, encouraging them to have more. At the same time, we are having a large influx of low IQ immigrants. We need to fix the welfare system, fix the immigration system, and stop encouraging smart girls to overly focus on their career to the extent they never have children.

  1042. Brutusale says:

    Just leaving this here to make things feel a bit more iSteve! Note the pilot, still larping his service.

    https://nypost.com/2025/04/12/us-news/nyc-helicopter-that-plunged-into-hudson-river-and-killed-six-was-damaged-months-before-fatal-wreck/

    Note the owner of the charter service, saying he’d never seen a helicopter lose its rotors in his 30 years in the business.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  1043. Old Prude says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Mr. Disease, I click on your music videos about as often as I click on Joe Stalins 2A videos – with about the same enthusiasm. This dirge is about as satisfying as listening to a webcaster go on about how the court in the First District is biased against the Second Amendment; In some ways worse;

    I don’t expect pleasure from legal discourse, but music is all about taste and fun. This music selection shows poor taste and is without fun.

    [When can we start Thread 4 to talk about how a black pilot’s helicopter came apart?]

  1044. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    You’re flailing.

    Let this sink in—YOU are opposed to racial quotas as mandated by the government and/or by businesses. That is YOUR position. Then YOU have the audacity to propose as a (final) solution to the “Jew problem” in the U.S. via a quota for them in education, medicine, and law. Which is hypocritical.

    But your “solution” isn’t even realistic, and YOU know that.

    And when you are called out on it, you act like a little b—-. Not a good look.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1045. res says:
    @HA

    OF COURSE Kursk is going to be more costly for the Ukrainians, given that it is an OFFENSIVE operation, and those are EXPECTED to burn through more of everything than would a defensive operation. Didn’t your Simpleton guru ever tell you about the old 3:1 rule that is often cited in such comparisons? So were the Ukrainian losses three times as much as the Russians’ or were they considerably less? Judging by the rough estimate count of lines in your spreadsheet, the Ukrainian losses WERE ONLY 16% HIGHER (869 vs 751) DESPITE THIS BEING AN OFFENSIVE OPERATION, NOT THE 300% ONE WOULD TYPICALLY EXPECT.

    Seems to me that there were two operations leading to the current situation.
    1. Ukraine invaded Kursk.
    2. Russia kicked them out.

    So given each side had 1 offensive and 1 defensive operation would one not expect close to parity in loss ratios?

    Does anyone have loss information by date? It seems the hallowed 300% rule did not apply during the Russian offensive phase.
    https://kyivindependent.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-ukraines-kursk-gambit/

    From late February to mid-March, Ukraine has lost 122 pieces of equipment, in contrast to Russia’s loss of 51, which mostly included armored fighting vehicles, infantry mobility vehicles, self-propelled artillery, and tanks, according to Oryx, which tracks Ukrainian and Russian losses through open-source data.

    The estimated overall equipment losses during the battle for Kursk Oblast is 790 pieces of equipment for Ukraine in comparison to Russia’s 740.

    It looks like Ukraine had a surprisingly good loss ratio during their offensive. It turns out surprise is a good thing for military effectiveness. Who would have guessed?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @HA
  1046. Old Prude says:
    @Brutusale

    It looks to me like the tail section came off first. The rotors came off as the aircraft tumble. I speculate there was some kind of catastrophic failure in the transmission linkage to the tail rotor that sheared off the back end of the helicopter.

    I don’t recall any emergency procedure for that.

  1047. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “This doesn’t exactly refute their point that it was a stupid thing for the Ukrainians to do.”

    That depends on what the actual reasons for taking it were. So much helpful advice for the Ukrainians from their so-called allies!! I’m sure they’re ever so grateful. Kinda like the one about how the Ukrainians should update their military with cool NATO-esque tactics (except for the little matter of providing no air cover to speak of, without which no NATO commander would even think of trying said tactics). Or else, how they obviously need to start conscripting young folk.

    So helpful, all this backseat driving!

    The Ukrainaians’ stated reason for the operation was to divert and grind down troops from places like Pokrovsk, which are still standing. The incompetence of the Russian army in allowing the incursion in the first place also gives lie to Putin’s allies and stooges and their talk of the inevitability of Russian advances which may yet prove useful. And the troubles they had during the end had more to do with the US deciding it was a good time to pause all shipments of aid to Ukraine and block any intelligence sharing than anything else. Getting stabbed in the back does indeed make a mess of things, but now that the pause is over (at least until Trump decides again that Russia’s refusal to agree to a cease-fire is again the fault of the Ukrainians) the Ukrainians are breaching into Belgorod for much the same reason.

    While Zelensky continues to hold wide support in Ukraine (more so than his detractors in the White House who wanted to float the meme that he rules against the Ukrainians’ will) his decision to sideline the more US-compliant Zaluzhny with Syrski is one the Ukrainians themselves don’t seem to agree with, and as popular as Zelensky is, Zaluzhny (who is the one who seems to have been involved in the latest push into Belgorod) is even more popular.

    But again, I’m sure the Ukrainians very much appreciate all your helpful backseat driving, more so than any further backstabby “pauses”.

  1048. res says:
    @Mark G.

    Why would they lower standards and pick lower quality Whites for federal government jobs when they could get higher quality Whites?

    Consider the possibility that what you and the hiring managers/government consider “quality” might differ. How many types of official preferments exist in federal hiring? Also consider the unofficial ones (e.g. wokeness).

    But it is hard to know. Which is a significant part of the problem. One which testing could help.

    Some commentary on federal hiring.
    https://federalnewsnetwork.com/commentary/2017/03/whats-wrong-with-the-federal-hiring-process/

    These points seem most applicable to this conversation.

    5) The rating processes, including category rating. OPM mandated use of category rating as part of the Obama Administration’s hiring reform. The idea was that category rating would replace the old “rule of 3” that limited managers to considering the three highest-rated applicants. The theory sounded OK, but the execution has been anything but OK.Because of the first four problems, category rating often produces lists of poorly qualified applicants, dominated by applicants with veteran preference. The problem is not with the veterans, it is with the broken process that does not eliminate less-qualified applicants.Here is how it works (I can point to hundreds of jobs advertised today that have the same problem): An agency advertises a job. It asks one question about basic qualifications (see number 3 above). Then it asks 20 questions about how well qualified the applicants are. Maybe five of those questions are about the critical skills/knowledge the job requires. The rest are filler or things of marginal importance. One applicant can give the highest scoring responses to the trivial questions, and the lowest scoring answer to the important questions. Another applicant can give the highest scoring responses to the important questions, but lower scoring responses to the other questions. There are three times as many those garbage questions as there are important questions. Guess who goes on the list and who is excluded? Right. The poorly qualified (or not at all qualified) applicant goes on the list and the highly qualified candidate is out of luck. I recently sat with a hiring manager and went through all of the questions for a job she was having difficulty filling and showed how a marginal candidate could get 90 points or more. It happens far too often.

    6) Veteran preference. Everyone says not to talk about veteran preference. It is the “third rail” of civil service reform. Touch it and die. That presumes there are only two options — either do veteran preference the way it is done now or do away with it. We should not do away with veteran preference. Giving consideration to veterans because of their service began with President George Washington and has continued in some form ever since. But we do not have to handle veteran preference the way it is done now.The problem with avoiding talking about the problems with the way we currently handle veteran preference is that it ignores one of the issues that complicates the federal hiring process. Every approach to veteran preference in recent decades has relied upon running a process that is supposed to be designed to separate qualified from unqualified candidates, then to determine the relative qualifications of the qualified folks. So far, so good. Then, whether it is with extra points or moving preference candidates to the top of a rating category, we take a process designed to measure one thing (relative qualifications), then we put a thumb on the scale to change the outcome. There are better and less complicated ways to provide veterans with preference in federal hiring.

    Now consider that blacks are overrepresented in the military by about 30% for men and over 100% for women.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/214869/share-of-active-duty-enlisted-women-and-men-in-the-us-military/

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1049. And so now, here is Taylor Swift playing catch-up, so to speak, doing her Billie Eilish impersonation (viz trying to sound emotionally lyrically and musically sincere like she’s a real person and not an entity. I mean, who can fake being Patti Smith? Maybe AI can at this point)…

    The thing I can’t figure out is, it’s so good and so convincing… does Taylor really mean it? Or did she just get her Product Team to do some research on Billie, run a few algorithms and AI scans and say, Yeah, this is what Billie does, here is why actual humans love her so much, and so here is what you have to fake in order to reproduce the Billie Effect?

    Cause we’re all headed down that road, pipples. Unless you can convincingly fake Cheech Wizard, they will fake it for you…..

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  1050. @JohnnyWalker123

    Yeah, you go ahead and keep implying that the Beatles were gay, NY Post writer. You’re gonna find out what “Boomer” means, right upside the head.

  1051. J.Ross says:
    @Old Prude

    Quick summary of /pol/’s immediate reaction: one anon claimed to have flown in helicopters often and it very safe (when white men maintained them). Multiple different anons blamed a diverse maintenance shop. Cf the gripping television series “Air Crash Investigations.” A Magyar anon pointed out that with helicopters, too much can go wrong because of “three axis physics.” Several anons expected that, at least, it happened so fast and so violently that the victims probably felt nothing.

  1052. J.Ross says:
    @res

    As Simplicius points out, Russians have become the masters of recovering and restoring taken-out vehicles, and this advantage is pressed as Russia advances. So Russians not only examine but put into Russian service Western vehicles. Ukraine can’t do this. So the vehicle loss figures are skewed.

    • Replies: @HA
  1053. @Old Prude

    I don’t recall any emergency procedure for that.

    Heh!

    (Sorry. They looked like a nice family.)

  1054. epebble says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    That is an excellent article by Robert Stark with lot of references. Studying that, my feeling is that Trump, unwittingly might have opened a Pandora’s box. If you go back to 2008 crisis, it was crystallized when a few subprime mortgages were foreclosed. Then ‘investors’ found out that their formerly investment grade mortgage-backed securities actually contained a slice of subprime loans. That led to a wholesale dumping of those securities leading to collapse of banks and financial institutions along with millions of homeowners losing their homes and millions more losing their jobs. In this case, the Trump trade war has focused the ‘investors’ attention on the $36 trillion federal debt (increasing at $2 trillion per year), and it may cost nearly $2 trillion in interest payments per year. Suddenly, they are seeing the unsustainability of this progression and want to get out of passing the Hot Potato. This has the potential to go ‘Greece’.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1055. @Corvinus

    That’s an unrealistic solution; a pipe dream. Never going to happen…

    Well, not with that attitude it won’t, Mr. Grumpy Pants.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1056. Curle says:
    @Old Prude

    My guess is music theory could tell us non-musicians something interesting about this song involving words like chord structure, minor keys resolving into major keys, etc. which would be interesting. I’ve noticed over the years that songs using unfamiliar progressions like this one seems to be can doing can end up quickly becoming compelling after multiple listens with their former strangeness turning into their greatest attraction. And he’s already pointed out how the lyrics are distinctive.

  1057. @J.Ross

    A friend of mine learned to fly helicopters many years ago. I’m sure there are videos on youtube now, but back then they showed everyone a slow-motion film video of a helicopter’s rotor blades in motion during forward flight. They are flopping around like mad – they have to, of course, due to varying lift as they come around. He said it scared the living out of most of the people.

    Yes, much more can go wrong mechanically that makes it NOT FLY, compared to with an airplane.

    I got to ride on one only once so far. I was hanging out at the airport in Sedona, Arizona, just talking to some guy who happened to be a helo tour pilot.

    “When are you going up next?”
    “We’re waiting for one more.”
    “I’ll give you fifteen bucks.” (I was joking.)
    “Twenty.”
    “You got it.”

    AND, I got to ride in the front (left seat) of the Jet Ranger, as the other 3 people were together and wanted to ride together in the back. Awesome!

  1058. Mark G. says:
    @res

    Res, I am reluctant to respond to others entering this conversation because it can turn into something where I am arguing with several individuals at once when I do that. I usually do not want to try to juggle that many balls at once. So if I ever do not respond to you, it is not because I consider your comment unimportant, stupid or am evading responding.

    Yes, when engaging in hiring for the federal government I know there are unfair preferences given to non-Whites over Whites. For the Whites they do hire, though, I see no reason for preferring the less competent ones over the more competent ones, except something like veteran preferences. Veteran preferences, though, have existed a long time since the beginning of my career and longer. A drop in competency levels would therefore not be happening because of its recent introduction.

    I also know “competent” is somewhat subjective. In my 44 year federal career, though, I have seen general agreement among management people who the bad workers are. I posted a list earlier of problems I see increasing among those they hire. I really do think that is related to a general decline in average IQ. I will not go into why that is happening because I have already done so several times. I have started seeing references to a reverse Flynn or Woodley effect so others are noticing this. This IQ decline is not just leading to less competent federal workers but a general decline of competence in the whole country as we head in the direction of South Africa.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    , @res
  1059. @OilcanFloyd

    I first came across Sailer in the 90s and one of the first things that I noticed about him is that he doesn’t have much good to say about whites. Yes, there are some great geniuses among us, but mostly, we are the midwits of humanity, caught somewhere between Asians and Jews, and blacks.

    Yup, us whites have never been that smart. Sure there were the occasional geniuses like Shakespeare and Goethe who seemed to come out of left field, and occasional craftsmen like Samuel Harrison, Arkwright, Stephenson, Brunel, Vandebilt, or James Cook, or James Watt, Faraday, Volta, Jenner, Lister, Curie, and those mathematical greats like Newton and Pascal, or members of families of geniuses like Charles Darwin.

    But while the above named were doing great work to advance human civilization, most of our ancestors were servants and soldiers, farm laborers and fodder for the factories of the industrial revolution.

    There is no reason to think that en masse we are particularly smart. When you put a Hillbilly in the White House hilarity ensues.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Mike Tre
  1060. @James B. Shearer

    Do the differences show up in the academic test scores? If you have examples of pairs of schools where you think one is doing significantly better than the other with similar quality students I would be interested.

    My experience was in L.A. — and on the ground, rather than looking at test scores. You’d have to go back to the Eighties, but dig up data on Garfield H.S. (good), Wilson (also fairly good by reputation — never subbed there), Roosevelt (bad), and Lincoln (bad).

    I do know that on the one hand, Garfield had one year where 357 students took an A.P. Test. On the other hand, our math department chair at Lincoln once memorably summarized our test results as ‘the worst at a non-black high school in Los Angeles.’

    I’d guess the differences were showing up.

    As far as junior highs went, I really have no data at all, but Indiana J.H.S. and El Sereno seemed like pretty functional places; Hollenbeck and Irving were zoos.

  1061. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    Let this sink in—YOU are opposed to racial quotas as mandated by the government and/or by businesses. That is YOUR position. Then YOU have the audacity to propose as a (final) solution to the “Jew problem” in the U.S. via a quota for them in education, medicine, and law. Which is hypocritical.

    The word “hypocrisy” has no real word application for most of the quota beneficiaries much less the Jews except as a tool of exploitation against those who still respect the concept and follow it. In twenty years the word will be archaic.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @J.Ross
  1062. @James B. Shearer

    Do the differences show up in the academic test scores? If you have examples of pairs of schools where you think one is doing significantly better than the other with similar quality students I would be interested.

    Also, still no school-wide scores — but I do have one excellent example of an individual teacher making a difference.

    Me! I mostly taught Algebra I, and we had a department-wide final in that. The classes of some teachers scored literally about what one would get with random guessing. My classes routinely scored twice that.

    And, to continue to toot my own horn, this wasn’t just some sort of transitory or artificial artifact either. I overheard an Algebra II teacher commenting that those kids who had had me for Algebra I really knew their stuff.

    Yes, teachers and schools make a difference.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1063. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    “The word “hypocrisy” has no real word application”

    Says who?

    “for most of the quota beneficiaries much less the Jews except as a tool of exploitation against those who still respect the concept and follow it.”

    Anyways, YOU also oppose those same racial quotas. That is the approach taken by the Trump Administration as well.

    The fact of the matter is that Colin is advocating for something that is IMPOSSIBLE to implement in our representative democracy.

    Why don’t you and him collaborate and come up with realistic measures to stop the Jew—after all, you both deep down believe they are “vermin”—from menacing “Heritage Americans”.

    “In twenty years the word will be archaic.”

    How do you know for certain it’s an absolute guarantee?

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Colin Wright
  1064. @Old Prude

    I speculate there was some kind of catastrophic failure in the transmission linkage to the tail rotor that sheared off the back end of the helicopter.

    This info from the New York Post supports your theory…

    The New York City helicopter that crashed into the Hudson River had a mechanical issue months before it broke apart midair and killed all six onboard, including a family of tourists visiting from Spain, according to records.

    The ill-fated Bell206L-4 LongRanger IV aircraft, owned and operated by New York Helicopter, experienced a mechanical issue with its transmission assembly last September, according to Federal Aviation Administration data.

    Records show the doomed chopper was built in 2004 and had already logged 12,728 hours of flight time when it was forced into repair.

    Happy Saturday!

  1065. Corvinus says:
    @Adam Smith

    “Well, not with that attitude it won’t, Mr. Grumpy Pants.”

    Mr. Grumpy Pants is Mr. Anon. You need a refresher on the zany cast of characters at the HbD Tree Fort.

    It’s not about attitude, it’s about action. You talk a good game, but that’s all it is.

    Seems to me you’re unwilling to go out in public and convince white American normies to band together and ship out all of the darkies. That’s what a true white patriot would do! I get it, you’d get your ass handed to you, and deservedly so, but at least it would show your serious about it. That is the way to initiate change.

    I suppose virtue signaling about it in this safe space gives you a sense of accomplishment.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1066. @Brutusale

    Fascinating…


    Sean Johnson, pilot of N216MH.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1067. epebble says:
    @Mark G.

    He just caved to the Big Beautiful Apple. The Forbidden Fruit was too hard to resist.

    Trump’s tariff blitz now exempting electrical goods like phones, laptops
    Customs and Border Patrol issued a new guidance on reciprocal tariff negotiations late Friday
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-global-economy/trumps-tariff-blitz-now-exempting-electrical-goods-like-phones-laptops

    The politics of this is a bit mysterious. The fancy people in intensely blue west coast get a reprieve but the auto workers, farmers and the like in battleground Michigan and red Midwest get shafted.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  1068. @J.Ross

    Do you think the Daily Mail or some other esteemed journalism company will have a story on the workplace demographics of the helicopter maintenance shop? With a rich guy plummeting to death next to Manhattan it seems like they could get substantial buzz with this one. They are choosy about when to do this type story but some of them cannot resist if the buzz gets big enough.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  1069. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    after all, you both deep down believe they are “vermin”—from menacing “Heritage Americans”.

    Here’s a Corvinus challenge, when you want to exaggerate the negative impact of a position you don’t like by restating it in a way that positions it within dialogue used by an purported extreme in a continuum as a way of disparaging the position and speaker why not first use the person’s own words (which are unlikely to have the effect you desire either as stated or in context) and only then move on to your characteristic extremist restatement? Or better yet use the same language as used by the persons or group you pretend to defend? It’s not as if Jews and philo-semites don’t use negative characterizations equal to ‘vermin’. Heck, much of it can be found in the defended group’s religious texts. This will save us from asking whether you intend the use of vermin, which you not the speaker use, to be understood in its Jewish or German usage or some other ethnic context.

    And maybe, just maybe, it will save this comment section from more of your low value contributions.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1070. @Jonathan Mason

    Yup, us whites have never been that smart. Sure there were the occasional geniuses like Shakespeare and Goethe who seemed to come out of left field….

    These people didn’t just come out of left field. They came from the same gene pool that produced the rest of us, and at a frequency that created great civilizations.

    Are average whites so stupid that they don’t deserve to inherit the civilizations that their ancestors played huge roles in building, defending, supporting, and running? Idiots would not have been able to play those roles.

    The problem with the so-called elites that we have now is that they aren’t the geniuses of the past who laid out the civilizations, and they have no appreciation for the people who fought the wars, sailed the ships, farmed the land, swept the streets, built and ran the machines…. A good argument could be made that we would be better off with traditional demographics and better elites. I think it’s obvious that that is the case.

    We’ve never put a hillbilly in the White House, but we’ve definitely had traitors and cosmopolitan idiots installed, and the results have been catastrophic rather than funny.

  1071. J.Ross says:
    @emil nikola richard

    Many anonymous people back at the beginning of the woke issue a few years back asked how long woke could persist once private jets started falling out of the sky. I don’t have the screencap on me, but this directly connects to McKinsey at Boeing, and one anon explained that McKinsey managers were idiot fratboy college graduates who thought not only that their degrees were meaningful but that people without degrees must know nothing. This was illustrated in the various crucial articles about McKinsey at boeing, where they had a harassment campaign to get rid of white maintenance men whom the managers imagined to be overpriced and easily replaced. Good morning, sir.

  1072. @YetAnotherAnon

    Good comment, YAA, but I don’t get “Now even UR is using the c-word.” What is the c-word, first of all? Then, I don’t get “even“. TUR, with the exception of a few writers, most of them gone, is as Anti-American as all get-out. Again, I don’t mean just the out-of-control Feral Beast of a Regime, but the nation and the country of America.

    Ron Unz and his writers NEVER have anything good to say for Americans and the nation. They write with glee about anything that might result in our downfall and that includes anything about Trump, as much as he is the only non-Globalist UniParty puppet we’ve seen in about 4 decades.

    Were Trump’s Golden Age (ha!) really to come, Ron Unz would have another American Pravda article out about him – instead of Chairman Mao, maybe Trump would be compared to Pol Pot or someone this time.

    Oh, and the purported Economics writers here, like Michael Hudson, are imbeciles.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  1073. HA says:
    @J.Ross

    “As Simplicius points out, Russians have become the masters of recovering and restoring taken-out vehicles,….”

    I.e., being forced to use donkeys and motorbikes and “restoring” museum pieces is a feature, not a bug. Good to know. This Simpleton guy sure does live up to his name.

  1074. HA says:
    @res

    “So given each side had 1 offensive and 1 defensive operation would one not expect close to parity in loss ratios?”

    I dunno. — was one side stabbed in the back by Trump in order to effect their retreat? I think that might skew the numbers just a tad.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1075. Moshe Def says:
    @Old Prude

    It also kina looks like a show-off negro ex-special ops was trying to pull a sick 180 before the main rotor came off

  1076. @bomag

    Heard in an interview is was meant to be a Rap attempt.

    Perhaps that’s because she realized she liked to actually sing, like, a melody.

    There are shades of Blondie’s song Rapture, which was pretty close to rap but still had something of a tune. Yes, the chorus of this Heart & Soul is great – it’s still in my head from an hour ago.

    That makes 4 Heart & Souls BTW, so far:

    The Cleftones (Thanks, SafeNow.)
    Bob Loggia
    Huey Lewis & The News (originally by Exile)
    T’Pau

  1077. @HA

    From my perspective, despite all the big talk- the US will gradually lose its significance in Ukraine, read Europe. Simply, while acknowledging US military dominance, European countries will sideline 1-3 pro-Russian states & rely more on their own capacities, with all their strengths & weaknesses.

    The US dominance in Europe is definitely declining, due to many elements too complex to dissect. And it will happen rather rapidly, in the next 5-10 years.

    • Thanks: HA
    • Replies: @Curle
    , @epebble
  1078. @emil nikola richard

    Yes, there could be a “Buzz” about this, eventually. As yet we do not know.

    My wife and I always feel a little bit creepy whenever we travel, and that is because we cannot possibly control certain aspects of our safety. We never know how clean our hotel sheets and towels truly are, for example. We don’t know how good our drivers are to and from the airports.

    No, I have not obtained an ultraviolet light to examine our sheets, but I very well could. I had a “black light” in my bedroom circa 1970, when I was circa age 10 and so, and I collected posters that glowed in ultraviolet light, so I know what can be done at those high frequencies just above the visible…

    Let us be honest: Each and every one of us, no matter how affluent, is still part of this “human mass.” You will sleep on shared sheets at some point. You will eat food mass produced at some point. You DO share this planet.

    That is how it is. Oh, and you DO live among and carry billions of bacteria. In fact, you need certain ones in your gut. My doctor says that I have a profoundly superior gut because I grew up eating real, fucking food. (I also lived literally “on the land” out of a backpack, and I climbed and camped and hiked my fucking brains out as a young man — and that couldn’t have hurt, could it?) Younger generations? Not so much: Weak soy boys and hairy, nose-ringed girls. Freaky, modern creations. Sad.

    Call me a “boomer” all you want, pussies. You are weak (but it’s not your fault.)

    LOL.

    • Replies: @muggles
    , @MEH 0910
  1079. @epebble

    It’s not like I, via Peak Stupidity with dozens of posts including IRS 1040 instruction booklet .pdf pie charts, haven’t been saying this for most of a decade already.

    But, without the orange hair and my own branded red hat, nobody listens! Steve Sailer, AnotherDad. oh pooh pooh, …

    … yeah, I don’t relish what’s coming, and I wish it weren’t on Trump’s watch. He, as you explained here, ePebble, is just illuminating it all with the wide-ranging DOGE and tariffs economic program. Will the “Trump Tariffs!” be the century later rhyming of the “Smoot-Hawley caused Great Depression 1.0!” BS?

    .

    BTW, in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Ben Stein as HS Econ teacher dubbed it “Hawley-Smoot” (Rep, then Senator). Also, at the end of the scene, he discussed the Laffer Curve, some actual natural economics, like Supply & Demand. Too bad the director didn’t show the blackboard, as maybe 40 year-ago movie-goers may have learned something.

    • Agree: epebble
    • Replies: @epebble
  1080. @Old Prude

    There’s a wonderful (because everyone walks away intact) and funny video of a small helicopter just coming into land when the tail rotor goes AWOL. Captioned “how I land rental helicopters”.

    https://t.me/myLordBebo/63912

  1081. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    Looks like I hit a nerve. Good. And to top it off, you go on a tangent meant to distract.

    No, we are staying on point here. This is exactly how you and your buddy Colin Wright (the school teacher, I forgot he had mentioned this is what he does/did) feel about Jews —> they are vermin.

    Jews are the “enemy” of Heritage Americans, correct? Jews are the movers and shakers of everything “anti-white”, right? And deep down if they disappeared from the face of the Earth—along with the Palestinians and the various brown peoples—you’d be gleeful. But you wouldn’t dare gun them down in cold blood or openly advocate for their untimely demise, that’s “uncivilized” on your part. But if others did so on your behalf, well, that’s another story.

    Just own it rather than being a little b—- about it. That would be honest on your part.

    Now, of course, Jews like JackD employ similar terms to describe you and Colin and the MenOfUnz, and he has similar feelings when it comes to the darkies and Palestinians. He should own it as well.

    So whether you like to admit it or not you both are cut from the same cloth.

    • Replies: @Moshe Def
  1082. @Old Prude

    Ugh, you don’t read or write poetry, do you.

    PRO TIP: Do NOT try to write free verse at home! Start out with blank verse, Donne and so forth, then work yourself up to read some Stevens, and only THEN try to read WC Williams and Frank O’Hara.

    Here’s a good (advanced) model….

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/33328/korean-mums

    DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME!

    And don’t do this either…..

    And anyone who’s ever had a dream.
    And anyone who’s ever played a part.
    And anyone who’s ever been lonely.
    And anyone who’s ever been, TORN APART.

    People who have not themselves been actually “torn apart” should not apply to participate in this conversation.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Old Prude
  1083. Mike Tre says:
    @Old Prude

    “I don’t recall any emergency procedure for that. ”

    Racism, my negro.

  1084. Mike Tre says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “Yup, us whites have never been that smart.”

    Compared to who? And it hasn’t been established that you in particular ARE a white person. You have that Hindu pretending to be white vibe like a several commenters around Unz do.

    • Replies: @Moshe Def
    , @epebble
  1085. @Mark G.

    “… Veteran preferences, though, have existed a long time since the beginning of my career and longer. A drop in competency levels would therefore not be happening because of its recent introduction.”

    A long standing policy can have different effects over time as other conditions change. If the veterans preference results in a qualified veteran being hired instead of a qualified non-veteran that is one thing. But if the preference results in an unqualified veteran being hired instead of a qualified non-veteran (or a qualified veteran for that matter) that is another thing with a much greater effect on overall quality.

    There are two reasons the second might be happening more. Dumbing down the initial screens means more unqualified veterans become eligible for the bonus. And there are fewer people in the military than there used to be which means fewer qualified veterans.

    It is my understanding that some government jobs are effectively restricted to veterans. Arbitrarily eliminating most potential applicants at a time when you are having trouble finding good people maybe isn’t a good idea.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1086. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    I’m not grumpy. I simply treat you with all the consideration you deserve: utter contempt and nothing more.

    • Thanks: Curle
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1087. J.Ross says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I did read with confusion that one Vietnamese guy rather Communistically trashing a small Michigan town I had visited a few times and found to not be Auschwitz. It was like that “China, feed America” spot that features brands of canned goods no American has ever seen.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1088. J.Ross says:
    @Curle

    I’ve been thinking the same thing for a while now, I never hear the word applied correctly or even honestly. The real bad guy though is the zero effort teenage contemptuous refutattion-in-one-move schtick that leftoids are addicted to, and which has never worked except inside their heads. That’s the basis of Daily Show style ridicule humor, this is how you lose half your audience.

    • Agree: Curle
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1089. @HA

    “But again, I’m sure the Ukrainians very much appreciate all your helpful backseat driving, more so than any further backstabby “pauses”.”

    I was writing more as an observer than as an advisor. You on the other hand seem to prefer the role of cheerleader.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
  1090. Moshe Def says:
    @Corvinus

    >Men of Unz — Vermin!
    >Jack_D — Vermin!
    Is Corvinus the fairest of them all?

    • Thanks: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Curle
  1091. @Achmed E. Newman

    Sorry, should have quoted it from the article’s sub-heading. C= Cave, as in”Trump caved”.

    I don’t see TUR as being as anti-US as you do. Admittedly Ron Unz writes much that is against US policy, both foreign and domestic, but I’d have thought it was common ground here that the interests of US elites (who have generally run both foreign and domestic policy) have diverged from the interests of the more general US population. So when people criticise “America” it’s usually US elites they are talking about.

    “Were Trump’s Golden Age (ha!) really to come, Ron Unz would have another American Pravda article out about him”

    That’s just human nature and politics – the continual quest for heaven here on earth, surely?

    I read stuff written in the UK in the late 1970s – tail end of pre-Thatcher years – and early 1980s – start of Thatcher years – and the UK governments are heavily criticised, whereas both periods were absolute nirvana for working people compared with what we have now.

    A Brit male on median wages then could easily afford a house(in a non-diverse area) with a stay at home mother in it – on his single salary.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  1092. Corvinus says:
    @J.Ross

    “I never hear the word applied correctly or even honestly.”

    I wouldn’t expect you to. Your statement is confirmation bias on steroids.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1093. muggles says:
    @Greta Handel

    Your prior comment cited here didn’t bother to mention any of the facts, just some article about a Tufts U. academic Senate hearing over the Gazan situation.

    Ms. Ozturk was a co-signer of this op-ed in some Tufts U newspaper criticizing their academic Senate for failing to condemn Israel for their “genocide” etc. etc.

    Quite a rabbit trail you cited.

    But this opinion piece was clearly a public document accusing Israel of “genocide” and other one-sided criticisms. In short, a foreign “guest visitor” praising a terror mafia (Hamas) and crying publicly about what some university professors said in some statement that was made.

    Clear public evidence of pro terrorist statements by a student foreign visa holder.

    So snark away, that’s all you got. Your silly protests simply deflect from your failure to clarify the facts originally and now. But the fact is, our guest here was being rude to her host.

    (As I have stated earlier, I don’t support kicking out student visa holders for supporting terror groups who kill Americans overseas, mere speech. But I’m not the State Department.)

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Greta Handel
  1094. muggles says:
    @Colin Wright

    Wow!

    “Colin Wright” attacking “Corvinus” here.

    Let the battle of midgets commence! (Apologies to actual little people.)

    Like two people flailing away at each other but never actually connecting any punches.

    Let’s keep it civil here, boys…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1095. vinteuil says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    William Carlos Williams, Wallace Stevens…I keep trying & I keep failing.

    In a world with Yeats, who has time?

  1096. muggles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Call me a “boomer” all you want, pussies. You are weak (but it’s not your fault.)

    Hey Buzz, we know it’s All About You here.

    You are, practically, Superman. We get it.

    But who are you addressing here? “Pussies”? Seems a tad er, defensive.

    Maybe you haven’t noticed the demographics here of the iSteve-Unz Commentariat.

    But if there is anyone here under the age if 40 commenting, I haven’t detected it yet.

    Most us are Boomers (can’t speak for the Chinese trolls, or Serbian ones like Kaldian).

    You don’t need to insult us here just to make yourself feel more “manly”. That one gay episode you had in college didn’t turn you into RuPaul, did it?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  1097. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvy throws shit hits wall, repeat.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1098. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    I dunno. — was one side stabbed in the back by Trump in order to effect their retreat? I think that might skew the numbers just a tad.

    Ah – stabbed in the back. The old dolchstoss, eh?

    Neither Trump, nor the rest of us, owe Ukraine anything other than bupkis.

    By the way, why are you still here a-postin’. Shouldn’t you be in a trench, a-shootin’, you slimy armchair-warrior f**k?

    • Replies: @HA
  1099. Mr. Anon says:
    @muggles

    But this opinion piece was clearly a public document accusing Israel of “genocide” and other one-sided criticisms. In short, a foreign “guest visitor” praising a terror mafia (Hamas) and crying publicly about what some university professors said in some statement that was made.

    The piece in question,

    https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

    doesn’t even contain the word “Hamas”, nor is there any praise for it, directly or indirectly. There is condemnation of Israel*, but mostly it is a criticism of the Tuft’s university administration for not adequately considering the opinions of student groups in their formulation of university policy.

    One can argue that we shouldn’t invite foreigners like Miss Ozturk to come to America and study, especially when that area of study is of so little importance. One can argue that we shouldn’t invite in foreign students who will engage in public political debate. But the US government DID invite her on a student visa, and she did nothing to violate the terms of that visa. She committed no crime. She did nothing to undermine the interests of THIS country. She certainly didn’t do anything to merit being abducted off the street by armed, masked men. That was done solely to further the interests of ANOTHER country and it’s lobby here in the U.S.

    *It condemns Israel for genocide, which is plainly untrue. What Israel is doing is not genocide, though a good case could be made that it is “ethnic cleansing”.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
  1100. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “By the way, why are you still here a-postin’. Shouldn’t you be in a trench, a-shootin’, you slimy armchair-warrior f**k?”

    I obviously don’t need to haul all the way to Ukraine to fight Putin’s minions. That shouldn’t need explaining at this point.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1101. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “You on the other hand seem to prefer the role of cheerleader.”

    Because I dare to venture an opinion other than that it was stupid? In any case, if the alternative is the incessant Putin propaganda from the likes of J Ross and other stooges, I’ll settle for chearleader (and given that I’m not seeing much in the way of pushback from you on that front, you’re not gonna impress me that your observations — with regard to Ukraine or myself — are in any way impartial).

    The problem with the Fabian/SamHouston/Washington attrition strategy you alluded to, and that the Ukrainians have largely followed since backseat drivers like you told them they were obviously stupid to spend so much effort on holding places like Bakhmut, is that sacrificing city after city in order to fight another day gives the pro-Putin hucksters like Trump the opportunity to claim that Russian victories are inevitable and that the Ukrainians have no cards and all the other blather about how resistance is futile. I don’t buy that any more than I would have bought into the once -prevalent notion that the USSR would inevitably endure, but others are more easily taken in by said hucksters.

    And that’s why Kursk is, at the very least, a useful corrective, as is the current swiping at Belgorod. It demonstrates that Russia is far from the juggernaut Trump likes to pretend it is. I’ll leave it to others more skilled in such matters to opine on whether its cost was just too great, especially given the other problems the Ukrainians facing, but that is worth mentioning, even if it rankles the so-called observers, dispensers of pro-tips, accuracy metric officials, and all the other self-appointed hall monitors who think I’m peculiarly in need of their helpful advice, even as they continue giving our resident Moscow stooges pass after pass.

    • Replies: @Wj
  1102. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “Dumbing down the initial screens means more unqualified veterans become eligible
    for the bonus”

    They set aside different hiring quotas for the favored groups. Increasing the number of people eligible for the preference does not increase the number of people hired if there is a quota for hires.

    I have seen no indication of an increased hiring quota for veterans. I have seen some signs of an increased hiring quota for non-Whites. That would not explain, though, why there is a deterioration in the quality of White employees.

    You offer up one hypothesis after another without considering for yourself what might be wrong with it. I have been working for the government for 44 years and have been observing and thinking about the government for 44 years. This has led me to believe most of what the government does would be better off done by private enterprise. The military, though, is probably going to have to be provided by government. Unfortunately, the influence of the military-industrial complex leads to excessive military spending. Trump just announced a record trillion dollar military budget.

    At some point I will need to end this with you. When I do, it does not mean I gave up and you “won”. I decided you are not that stupid since you came up with some good comments directed at HA about the harebrained Ukrainian Kursk invasion. I think we are just not going to agree on this topic.

  1103. @John Johnson

    Okay, JJ. I can’t sell you on the potential lethality of an mRNA “vaccine” shot. The FDA is looking to fast-track self-amplifying mRNA Bird Flu injections. Have at it.

  1104. Mike Tre says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “I don’t see TUR as being as anti-US as you do. Admittedly Ron Unz writes much that is against US policy, both foreign and domestic, but I’d have thought it was common ground here that the interests of US elites (who have generally run both foreign and domestic policy) have diverged from the interests of the more general US population.”

    Yes, but that is only one aspect. Have you been browsing the front page of TUR the last few weeks? This website has gone full blown pro-China in regards to the trade tension between it and the US, to the point where flippant remarks about Ron receiving “donations” from that part of the world are no longer something to just laugh at.

    A few years ago the Covid Origin stuff made it clear that Ron Unz had a personal stake in alleviating China from any responsibility or even wrong doing in the matter, and was a chest thumping proponent of lockdowns and injections. It is the only topic in which he has ever employed censorship and banning in order to silence those that disagree with him.

    So it’s one thing to criticize the US government, which is more necessary than ever, but Ron has never been any kind of ally to the white demographic of the US. He mocks what he calls “WN types,” for having the audacity to express their desire to live in a country free of foreigners, endorsed the destructive lockdowns and masks and injections, tries to gaslight everyone into believing mestizos are no more violent and criminal than whites, has nothing to say (that I can recall) about the massive (and actually real) epidemic of middle/working/lower class whites suffering from opioid addiction and drug overdoses that con be directly attributed to the dishonest marketing and peddling of those drugs by Big Pharma and their physician lackeys.

    He also has nothing to say about Europe and the UK being overrun by hordes of murderous and rapey Asians and Africans, or the 10’s of 1000’s of white rape/murder victims that lay in their wake.

    Ron’s website serves a valuable purpose, but it’s important to keep things in perspective: He is no ally to whites.

    • Thanks: bomag
  1105. Moshe Def says:
    @Mike Tre

    >You have that Hindu pretending to be white vibe
    Poojoo
    Hear me out, Men of Unz…
    Indian poople are a Flesh Suit for a Microbial Hivemind in the Gut. These are their Shitgods. It is a Religion of Shit. Shitniggers are thus vegetarian. They don’t even eat any of the stray dogs or cows or goats that they have roaming around. This is to maximize the total volume of Shit. Eating vegetables/fiber increases jeet Shit. And, of course, not eating meat leaves the animals alive to further Shit. Shit for the Shitgods. That’s why everything revolves around Shit for them. (SH)IT IS WHAT THEY ARE. They should be declared a Biological Weapon and banned from the Western Hemisphere

    • LOL: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  1106. @Old Prude

    This music selection shows poor taste and is without fun.

    Music can also be serious, but either way it should be good.

    It has been established that most of TGToD’s rather repetitive music selections are terrible. Perhaps intentionally so, for cheeky trolling purposes. He basically picks his female artists by the criteria of personal “Would bang?”. He knows it, we knows it, it’s a fun(?) running joke 🙂 . Of the bunch of his regular muses, perhaps only PJ Harvey is (was) of some musical interest.

    Compare his Phair (she’s inevitably crap) desultory overly-wordy selection with this punk-turned-rocker Aussie slag and friends reenacting the steppe Aryan invasions west to wipe out the neolithic farmers:

  1107. @vinteuil

    “In a world with Yeats, who has time?”

    Nicely put, very witty and largely correct.

    But it’s a big world, after all, even a big world full of Yeats. This really happened — a 19-year-old James Joyce bumped into Yeats on a Dublin street, and had the gumption to yell at the Great Man: “It’s a shame, you’re just too old for me to teach you anything!” If you don’t yell at Yeats, then you don’t get Samuel Beckett later down the road, you don’t get “Not I”. Or who knows what else later.

  1108. @vinteuil

    A little taste-nugget of reality from back in the 90s, when reality was still actually Real…..

    I’m still on your side — in spite of everything you do!

    I still remember, after years of struggle and living in parks and dealing with blood-covered homeless guys, finally catching a career break and making some real money for the first time. I had to rent a rental car in LA (I’m a New Yorker I don’t drive) and I absent-mindedly turned on the car radio and the very first thing that blasted out of it was Sonic Youth:

    “Hey angel come and play” (Sugar Kane)

    and I thought, Well that’s an omen. For once this is gonna be a good decade.

    Well that illusion evaporated pretty quickly. But not before me and my little gang revolutionized the perception of modern culture. You’re welcome. Maybe. Or maybe you’re gonna chase us out of town, who knows.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  1109. J.Ross says:
    @Moshe Def

    In their case, staying in their own country isn’t a solution, because they’re constantly scamming online and on the phone.

    • Replies: @Moshe Def
  1110. @muggles

    Careful, mug, you’re getting me all excited. Too bad you’re just another boomer. I pictured you younger, in a white tank top.

  1111. J.Ross says:

    Somewhere someone tells black people that the pedestrian having right of way in law means that cars cannot hit them.

    According to Cleveland Police, the 63-year-old victim was walking north on Ridge Road across Denison Avenue in the crosswalk against a red traffic signal.
    “This is a considered a hit skip situation, a hit and run, and our accident investigation unit is investigating it as such,” said Sergeant Wilfredo Díaz with Cleveland Police.
    A vehicle going westbound on Denison with a green light hit Howard around 5:25 a.m., according to Cleveland Police.
    CPD said Howard was then hit by two more vehicles. None of the vehicles stopped.
    A fourth vehicle then hit Howard, who got caught under the vehicle. The fourth vehicle dragged the victim nearly one mile to the intersection of West Boulevard and Lorain Avenue.
    Howard was pronounced dead on the scene.

    https://www.cleveland19.com/2025/04/11/63-year-old-pedestrian-hit-by-multiple-vehicles-dragged-nearly-1-mile-cleveland/

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  1112. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    I obviously don’t need to haul all the way to Ukraine to fight Putin’s minions. That shouldn’t need explaining at this point.

    No, your deranged paranoic belief that anyone who disagrees with you is one of “Putin’s minions” is quite well known around here and needs no further explanation. It is however convenient that you imagine yourself “fighting” these sinister forces when all you’re doing is rap-tap-tapping on a keyboard – convenient in the sense that it explains away your cowardice. If you had the strength of your convictions, you’d go fight for the cause you want to commit the rest of to, you loathsome pr**k.

    • Replies: @HA
  1113. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    But not before me and my little gang revolutionized the perception of modern culture.

    Hol’ up. You managed the Spice Girls? Whoa…

  1114. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I’unno, mate….

    All I’ll add is, I played the exact same banged-up piano in the corner of the room on 14 that was played by George Harrison and David Bowie. Except that I wasn’t very good, and Downey had to yell at me to stop.

    Your turn.

    If you dueled with this cat over RM, then mebbe I’ll sit you at the table.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  1115. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    If you dueled with this cat over RM, then mebbe I’ll sit you at the table.

    Name dropping ain’t no substitute for good taste. Hard believe you’re the same poster lucid enough to post this excellent comment in the Unz Shakespeare thread:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-who-wrote-shakespeares-plays/?showcomments#comment-7037691 (#43)

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  1116. Moshe Def says:
    @J.Ross

    Need to firewall the whole subcontinent (and, probably China, too, especially the way things are going)

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  1117. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ya know, you’re a good guy and all of that. I dig it, and it’s cool.

    But you have to understand…

    when I was a kid, I grew up hanging around a bunch of kids, and all of us just had fun like just a bunch of kids, yadda yadda, but we also knew that *some* of the kids were the children of mob guys, and at some point we just kind of learned how to comport ourselves accordingly.

    Ah’m just sayin’.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  1118. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hard believe you’re the same poster

    Er, “Hard to believe”…

  1119. @Moshe Def

    The “global south” needs to be quarantined.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1120. @J.Ross

    Ohio is the bell weather. If you can drag a dying man and then his corpse for close to mile under your car in ohio you can make it any whrerere.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  1121. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I’m not trying to be mean or grandiose or anything, I’m just stating a simple fact.

    I was not the architect of this — I just considered myself lucky enough to be sitting in the same room as these guys, and not getting kicked out, but the fact remains I was in the room and pitched in — but the plain fact was that our little gang of weirdos revolutionized and changed the entire conception of the public concept of language and the media interface of fake reality with reality. For the entire country. For the entire mass civilization. Steve himself could not do what he does, if it were not for what we did before him. His framework — and yours — is the framework which we created for you, and you don’t even know it. For f#ck’s sake, *we* didn’t even know we were doing it, it wasn’t planned or intentional, it just sort of happened by accident, and after a lot of very violent arguments; we can’t even take credit for it, but whooops, there ya go.

    Some things are better left unsaid;
    I’m gonna spend my days in bed.

    — Sweet

  1122. res says:
    @Mark G.

    Please reread the quoted point 5. Which happened during the Obama administration.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1123. Mark G. says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “The global south needs to quarantined.”

    Steve Sailer has written about the world’s most important graph, the high birthrates of Sub-Saharan Africa. He is aware of the need to keep immigrants from Africa and the rest of the global south from flooding the countries to the north. John Derbyshire has written about the importance of this issue too.

    Focusing on Russia, China or Iran as the biggest threat to the United States and Europe has just acted as a distraction from the real biggest threat, large scale immigration from the south and the liberal elites who support it. Peter Brimelow wrote recently in Chronicles magazine that Trump being the politician who picked up the immigration issue separated him from the other candidates in the Republican primaries and the general election and was the deciding factor in him winning.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1124. Curle says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The US dominance in Europe is definitely declining, due to many elements too complex to dissect. And it will happen rather rapidly, in the next 5-10 years.

    In other words the nation will return to following George Washington’s guidance and abandon that of fantasist Edward Mandell House?

    • Replies: @HA
  1125. @Mark G.

    ‘…Trump being the politician who picked up the immigration issue separated him from the other candidates in the Republican primaries and the general election and was the deciding factor in him winning.’

    He seems to be getting over it, though.

  1126. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    ‘…our little gang of weirdos revolutionized and changed the entire conception of the public concept of language and the media interface of fake reality with reality. For the entire country. For the entire mass civilization…’

    I’m afraid I, for one, didn’t notice much.

  1127. epebble says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Replace ‘Europe’ with ‘World’. When

    came out, there was much criticism. Though by the time

    came out, criticism was muted. Now, in 2025, the things he wrote seem to paint a rosier scenario for U.S. than warranted.

  1128. Mark G. says:
    @res

    I think they would have been doing that during the Obama administration to be able to hire less qualified minorities over Whites, thereby increasing the percentage of minorities in the federal workforce. According to Google AI, the percentage of veterans in the federal workforce has remained relatively stable for the last twenty years so nothing has been done to affect that.

    Veterans are given veterans preferences because they are less qualified than nonveterans. If they were as qualified as nonveterans, there would be no need for veterans preferences. They could get hired through the normal process. If the hiring process was being manipulated in general to hire more less qualified people you would see more less qualified veterans and more less qualified minorities getting hired and fewer more qualified White nonveterans getting hired.

    As I said, though, the percentage of veterans in the federal workforce has remained stable for the last twenty years so they must be using this manipulation only in the case of minorities to increase their percentage of the federal workforce. That means they are likely not using it with Whites in addition to not using it with veterans. However, I see a declining level of competency among White employees of the federal government.

    This declining level of competency of White federal employees I think is being caused by declining levels of competency among Whites in general, the reasons for which I have already given previously. I do not know why, if white levels of competency are dropping in general, they would not also be dropping among Whites in the federal workforce for the same reason. I do not understand the resistance to the idea of this being the case.

  1129. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    but we also knew that *some* of the kids were the children of mob guys, and at some point we just kind of learned how to comport ourselves accordingly

    There’s quiet guys who done nuthin’, there’s guys who done stuff but don’t talk about it, there’s guys who done stuff and do, and lastly there’s talkative guys who pretend they done stuff but actually didn’t.

    You’re not quiet, so you’re one of the last two: Have you a validation, boyo?

  1130. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    … but the plain fact was that our little gang of weirdos revolutionized and changed the entire conception of the public concept of language and the media interface of fake reality with reality. For the entire country. For the entire mass civilization.

    Fuckin’ A. So… not only did you help manage the Spice Girls, you directed Aqua’s “Barbie Girl” video. Which has, as of this timestamp, (check notes) 1.6 BILLION views and 435,258 comments.

    My hat is off to you sir, whoever you are. I am humbled.

    [MORE]

  1131. @Colin Wright

    “I’m afraid I, for one, didn’t notice much.”

    And it is best that way. Keep on truckin’.

  1132. @Colin Wright

    I just have to say, I kinda find it fascinating as an aspect of internet culture, that you have been talking on and off over quite a while with this “person” (m’self) whom you kinda-sorta have gotten to “know”; and I just told you something rather quite shocking — that me and my pals invented the language you’re speaking right now, and that we did it by accident as it were, and that I was there when it happened and so can give you the gory details, and your immediate reaction is not, conservatively, “well, that’s sort of weird, can you elaborate?” it is rather “Oh you’re just so full of sh#t.” I mean, it’s not like I suddenly disclosed that I was a werewolf or a vampire, I said something conceptually peculiar, and your reaction to a guy you’ve been talking to for yoinks was instantly, Oh piss off, not… well, what do you mean?

    Am i, really, just so full of sh#t? Do I talk like a crazy rambling homeless guy in the ER at 4 AM? Lissen, dood, I really don’t give a flying f#ck about whether you think I’m being straight or not; it’s the hermeneutics which interests me.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Colin Wright
  1133. SafeNow says:
    @Mark G.

    Veterans are given veterans preferences because they are less qualified than nonveterans.

    Veterans have been inculcated with a habit of thought to not question the correctness of procedures. Not just because these are orders, but because their philosophy is that smart and experienced people, over time, decided that this is the best way to do something. This is a very attractive trait in an employee. Such an employee, in most jobs, will be more qualified than an applicant with a higher g but also a contentious bent. Certainly easier to work with.

  1134. Curle says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “but the plain fact was that our little gang of weirdos revolutionized and changed the entire conception of the public concept of language and the media interface of fake reality with reality. “

    You were involved with MTV’s The Real World?

  1135. @epebble

    The politics of this is a bit mysterious.

    Once a man solves it, he often stops voting.

    • Replies: @epebble
  1136. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “There’s quiet guys who done nuthin’, there’s guys who done stuff but don’t talk about it, there’s guys who done stuff and do, and lastly there’s talkative guys who pretend they done stuff but actually didn’t.”

    Man, you really got to love the internet. That is the sort of rhetorical strategy I would expect from the runny-nosed kid on the playground in Sunset Park down the street from the Irish Haven whose drunk dad just got let go from the post office in 1979, while I was saving up my paper-route money to buy the first Pretenders record. Who writes this stuff for you, John Hughes’s former assistant?

    Here is what I find funny: you’ve been talking with or to me on and off for quite a while, and though I sort of enjoy being a bit of a jerk here and there, I do once in a while say something slightly interesting, which means I am possibly not completely retarded, maybe. So in the course of conversation I let drop something rather conceptually curious, and rather than saying “Hmm, that was weird, what did you mean?” you and what army let fly with YOU’RE AN ASSHOLE!!

    Let’s say you were a jazz/swing trumpet session player in 1955. Times were good, gigs were plentiful, Frank was king. Then this bunch of British jerks show up around 1963 playing non-blues-based electric music and the girls go crazy and it becomes all the rage and all of a sudden you’re back to washing dishes. Would you say that there was, maybe, a change in the conceptual language of your culture? And if some guy who said he was a minor player in this band called The Rolling Stones bought you a drink and offered to explain to you what had happened, would you call him an asshole?

    You see where I’m going with this. Or maybe you don’t, that is why we have an internet after all.

  1137. @Joe Stalin

    Thanks for all you do, Joe. You are a hero of the Internet!

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  1138. @Nicholas Stix

    Agree. I for one find Joe Stalin’s videos very useful, and I probably would not have been aware of them had he not been posting them here.

  1139. @Adam Smith

    Yes! Thank you, Mr. Smith. Now to the $64 question: Does the following count as HTML or plain text?

    (open angle bracket) iframe width=”560″ height=”315″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF7-rz9nIn4?si=m9ZJ4Pp1_zQ5ZYpa&#8221; title=”YouTube video player” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share” referrerpolicy=”strict-origin-when-cross-origin” allowfullscreen></iframe

    I tried to post it at PS within angle brackets (I just lost “(open angle bracket)/iframe(close angle bracket)” at the end). BTW, I’ve had the same problem posting videos at TUR.

    A beautiful weekend to you, too!

  1140. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    ” Times were good, gigs were plentiful, Frank was king. Then this bunch of British jerks show up around 1963 playing non-blues-based electric music and the girls go crazy and it becomes all the rage and all of a sudden you’re back to washing dishes. ”

    It was probably even earlier than that for jazz. John Wain’s novel Strike The Father Dead has a scene where the jazz band audience are shouting for rock and roll, and to be delivered from those days of old.

    It’s amazing how things can change. The boys a few years older at my school were all into Ray Charles and Aretha, whereas we listened to British blues (John Mayall, Savoy Brown) and incipient heavy metal – LZ, Deep Purple and Sabbath. But we all loved Beatles/Stones/Kinks.

    But that was nothing compared to Christmas 1976, where students went home with long hair and flared trousers but returned in January 77 with ripped drainpipes and short spiky cuts.

    PS – this caving business is getting to be a habit. Isn’t the whole point to bring back tech from the East?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  1141. @J.Ross

    Linh Dinh or Dim Lin, or something. I read one post of his. That was enough to see what he was about.

    It was like that “China, feed America” spot that features brands of canned goods no American has ever seen.

    Was it like Ron Unz claiming China is just the BEST, based on his watching youtube videos made by young Western women having fun there?

    Socially, China has got some real problems now that I’ve been hearing a lot about lately, personally.

  1142. @YetAnotherAnon

    Because before the British Invasion there was Rock’n’Roll – Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee, Bill Haley et al. In the UK it had its own dress style and working class subculture. Pretty crappy wiki article with a lot of pictures from the small 70s revival.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Boys

    I went to see Bill Haley around 1975 – how could you not see a legend? – and out from the woodwork for the show came hundreds of original Teds – a scary bunch, whose women wore no underwear as they twirled in their circle skirts. Great show in every sense.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  1143. @Mark G.

    “That is because there is a shrinking pool of higher IQ Whites because poor low IQ White females get welfare money to have kids while more intelligent White women are encouraged to pursue careers rather than have children.” My experience is that high IQ Whites just aren’t having kids.

    When I was younger, I knew three kinds of high-IQ Whites: 1. Adjuncts, most of whom could not even make the rent without a full-time, live-in lover or spouse. They had no kids.

    2. Tenured or tenure-track professors and administrators. Many had no kids (many were lesbians or homosexuals), and those who had kids with White spouses had under-replacement fertility. And of course, any who had kids taught them anti-White ideology; and

    3. Highly educated Whites who did I don’t know what, also had few or no kids.

    This sort of a world will give you reduced numbers of high I.Q. Whites.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  1144. @Achmed E. Newman

    From most people, this

    Linh Dinh or Dim Lin, or something. I read one post of his. That was enough to see what he was about.

    would be understood as parody.

    No other contributor at TUR approaches Achmed’s pride in his closed mind.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1145. Wj says:
    @HA

    If Russia is not a juggernaut then why the western obsession with funding Ukraine with weapons? I don’t believe they are a juggernaut or that they threaten Western Europe but I do believe they are crushing the Ukes and will continue to do so

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @HA
  1146. When the elites spend generations purposely trying to destroy a group of people, is it really a surprise that there are results? When every aspect of the culture is purposely dumbed down or destroyed, is it really shocking that people appear dumber? I’m not just talking about the idiocy that has been popular culture for 50 years or more. NPR and Public Television that used to be sources of good music and educational programming for everyone now produce rot that competes with the stupidity of MTV in the 80s and 90s.

    I couldn’t know about elite whites being dumber in person, but the elites in general aren’t very impressive. They are doing a lousy job with what was handed to them. I wouldn’t think that turning the nation over to the first 500 people listed in the Charleston, West Virginia phone book would have done worse. Destruction and decline are destruction and decline, no matter who is in charge.

    And if you don’t understand the impact of desegregation and immigration on schools and education, or of AA and immigration on the workplace, then you probably don’t understand what the masses of white Americans have experienced on a daily basis for decades. If the popular culture, public education, and demographics are purposely destroyed and the parents are deliberately held back from opportunities and advancement in education and employment, is it really a mystery that whites are entering the workplace less educated or less prepared? Isn’t that the desired result. Either way, the gap in educational achievement is still solidly in place. Whose fault is it that the elites choose to sideline whites and destroy the nation?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Thanks: Mike Tre, J.Ross
    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  1147. @Mark G.

    “This declining level of competency of White federal employees I think is being caused by declining levels of competency among Whites in general, the reasons for which I have already given previously. I do not know why, if white levels of competency are dropping in general, they would not also be dropping among Whites in the federal workforce for the same reason. I do not understand the resistance to the idea of this being the case.”

    I think that if the declining quality of the workforce is causing problems for the federal government maybe they should try to hire better workers. Which it seems clear they could easily do by changing their hiring process to give more weight to merit. If the general level of competency is declining in the population then it becomes more important to hire selectively. Instead you seem to think that there is nothing that can be done short of improving the overall population. Which is just an excuse for tolerating a lousy federal hiring process.

    When my AC broke a few years ago I got it fixed. I didn’t blame my hot house on global warming. Which would not have been helpful even if global warming did add a little to the indoor temperature.

  1148. Corvinus says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Again, you tell the best fake stories ever on this fine opinion webzine!

  1149. Mike Tre says:

    In bread and circuses news, and in a move I didn’t expect, Donald Trump attends last night’s UFC card with a couple of his grandchildren and a good portion of his cabinet, to include, Musk, RFK, Tulsi, the pajeet FBI director, Rubio, and Senator Ted Cruz.

    It was a pretty good main card however, with only one fight (the main event) going the distance.

  1150. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You watch too much television. It is called programming.

    It can be deleted!

  1151. @Wj

    “why the western obsession with funding Ukraine with weapons?”

    Our ruling elites think (probably correctly) that if they don’t give us an enemy to hate then we might decide THEY are the problem and the reason why we’ve all been getting poorer – see how Occupy Wall Street was changed into Black Lives Matter over five years.

    But “all whites are racist” isn’t a theme to excite whites other than students and feminists. Joe Sixpack needs a hate object. What better target to aim him at than the last major white Christian country?

    PS – with the Brave browser neither the “new comments” or “show all comments for x” feature seems to work correctly.

    • Agree: bomag
  1152. @YetAnotherAnon

    Safari browser here, but new comments, and seeing anything at all in sky blue, has not worked for more than a month, but that’s only for these Steve Sailer Open Threads. The comments for commenter X works, but it’s well behind. I think it’s on a 12 hour schedule or something like that.

  1153. @Greta Handel

    Confucius say: For man whose mind is like sticky rice ball, intelligence is invisible like inside of dumpling.

  1154. @OilcanFloyd

    I wouldn’t think that turning the nation over to the first 500 people listed in the Charleston, West Virginia phone book would have done worse.

    In Clarksburg WV in the county where Stonewall Jackson was born they still have his statue in front of the county courthouse.

    https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Birthplace-of-Stonewall-Jackson-will-not-remove-his-statue-571345431.html

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  1155. bomag says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I think it is best to just go with what you know, instead of trying things you don’t know just because you think that is what is expected.

    When you find yourself in a situation, yes.

    But one should do some aspiring and learning ahead of time.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  1156. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    while I was saving up my paper-route money to buy the first Pretenders record

    Hmm. Bit of an odd purchase for a kid. Almost geriatric, musically. Around that time (’79), something like Van Halen would make more sense…

    Would you say that there was, maybe, a change in the conceptual language of your culture? And if some guy who said he was a minor player in this band called The Rolling Stones bought you a drink and offered to explain to you what had happened, would you call him an asshole?

    Bruh, in a recent thread you wrote this howler:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/my-movie-review-of-conclave/#comment-7015586 (#206)

    But without Captain Beefheart you don’t get most of post-blues, post R n B, modern rock n roll. Everyone who matters studies this guy. You don’t get anything after 70s Stones.

    If you think Beefheart amounted to anything, and that by analogy you yourself in whatever field (avant-garde theater? wot) were the next ‘Captain Beefheart’—that ain’t saying much: The unsolicited ‘clues’ you’ve been dropping about yourself for months (years?) paint a picture of some sort of jester/dilettante/wannabe on the periphery of an obscure performing arts scene.

    At this point, it’s either identify yourself and blow us all away, or be doomed to forever post more zero-punchline boring ‘glory days’ name-dropping. C’mon GT, throw that ‘speedball’ by me, make me look like a fool…

  1157. res says:
    @Mark G.

    Consider the possibility that declining levels of white competency accompanied by it becoming easier to hire less competent people (from quoted point 5 above: “OPM mandated use of category rating as part of the Obama Administration’s hiring reform. The idea was that category rating would replace the old “rule of 3” that limited managers to considering the three highest-rated applicants. “) provides a better explanation than either cause alone.

    I do not understand the resistance to the idea of this being the case.

    I am not sure why it is so common for people to reduce things to false dichotomies and single causes. I find it incredibly frustrating.

    As far as which is more important, consider the following two cases.
    1. Declining levels of white competency with robust hiring practices.
    2. Constant white competency with weaker hiring practices.

    Not sure which would give worse results. Depends on:
    1. How much has white competency declined?
    2. How much are weaker hiring practices being used to (intentionally?) bring in less competent people? In service of another agenda (e.g. wokeness)?

    What does seem clear is that both causes being present is a bad combination.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1158. J.Ross says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    This shouldn’t matter but I assume you’ve already tried the mere address, that is, delete everything from the second “?” back?

  1159. res says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I just told you something rather quite shocking — that me and my pals invented the language you’re speaking right now, and that we did it by accident as it were, and that I was there when it happened and so can give you the gory details, and your immediate reaction is not, conservatively, “well, that’s sort of weird, can you elaborate?” it is rather “Oh you’re just so full of sh#t.”

    Well, I can’t speak for anyone else, but I did not ask you to elaborate because I thought it unlikely I would get a straight answer. Not sure whether that is unfair. The oblique profundities routine can become tiresome (e.g. too often it is used as a vehicle for overtly or covertly laughing at people or otherwise trying to diminish them and elevate oneself). Though IMO your presentation is entertaining enough and contains enough pearls of interest to be worthwhile.

    Two things which make having conversations like that here difficult are:
    – Most of us don’t want to self dox. Making it harder to establish both common ground and what we really have (or have not) done.
    – Many of us have fairly different world views. As an example particularly germane to this conversation, compare what I would call the “art school stereotype” (do you have a better term?) with the “engineering stereotype.” In my experience those two types often have difficulty communicating and place very different values on things. Precisely the reasons both types have room to learn from each other.

    All of that said, I would appreciate an elaboration.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk, bomag
  1160. Corvinus says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “Our ruling elites think (probably correctly) that if they don’t give us an enemy to hate then we might decide THEY are the problem”

    Except for decades people like yourself already know the “ruling elites” are supposedly the “problem”, yet there hasn’t been this sustained effort required to remove them from power.

    Besides, the “enemy” is not the Russian people, but an oligarch with his own Deep State background, a man who curbs internal dissent. He has decided to interfere with the sovereignty of a white nation, who of their own accord seek additional measures in place to protect their borders. No big deal if Russian men end up at the meat grinder in the front lines. So why doesn’t the rough and tumble Putin lead the charge at the front? Besides, Ukraine has had previous, shall we say bad expositions, with past leaders of Russia.

    “and the reason why we’ve all been getting poorer – see how Occupy Wall Street was changed into Black Lives Matter over five years.”

    No, we are getting poorer as a result of company monopolistic practices and Wall Street shell games, with conservative politicians largely to blame for their laissez-faire economic policies.

    Wake the f—- up.

    “What better target to aim him at than the last major white Christian country?”

    By way of pointing fingers at Jews, who ultimately are the source of “white problems”. Easy scapegoat, right?

  1161. @emil nikola richard

    In Clarksburg WV in the county where Stonewall Jackson was born they still have his statue in front of the county courthouse.

    Maybe would should be governed by the first 200 people in the Clarksburg phonebook.

    • Replies: @bomag
  1162. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    When an adult male says “I never hear the word [hypocrisy] applied correctly or even honestly”, they are full of s—-. He is implying that only he knows what the word truly means and its proper application, and that everyone else is wrong when they use it. That’s insane.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1163. Mark G. says:
    @res

    I am not reducing anything to single causes. Do you think our immigration and welfare system of the last sixty years has had a dysgenic effect on the population, leading to declining IQ and competency levels in the workforce, including the federal government workforce. When I ask that, I am not excluding other factors, for example a possible worsening educational system also leading to lower IQ and competency levels in this country. I am just asking if our welfare and immigration systems are having a neutral effect, a positive effect or a negative effect on workforce quality, including both the private sector and the public sector.

    • Replies: @res
  1164. HA says:
    @Wj

    “If Russia is not a juggernaut then why the western obsession with funding Ukraine with weapons?”

    I think it has something to do with the fact that Russia invaded a neighboring country with tanks and bombs. A neighboring country whose borders they had previously signed an agreement to honor. I think it’s been in the news, but I take it you haven’t been keeping up.

    Europe, and the world in general, has had some bad experiences with regard to those kind of landgrabs in the last century — I saw a film about that once and I think there were some Jews in it, or something like that — and there’s a worry that if such behavior is allowed to persist, it’ll incentivize other megalomaniacs some with similarly malign intentions (like, say, a desire to swipe Greenland, though we all know THAT could never happen).

  1165. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “convenient in the sense that it explains away your cowardice.”

    You mean with regard to those ouchy hurty needles? Oh wait, that’s YOUR cowardice. But that being the case, maybe you should stop rap-tap-tapping-and-projecting your terror onto others. Aren’t there some kids on your lawn you need to go scream at?

  1166. res says:
    @Mark G.

    Do you think our immigration and welfare system of the last sixty years has had a dysgenic effect on the population, leading to declining IQ and competency levels in the workforce, including the federal government workforce.

    Agreed about that as a relevant causal chain. But compare that to what you wrote above (I only quoted the final sentence previously). Sure reads as a single cause statement to me.

    This declining level of competency of White federal employees I think is being caused by declining levels of competency among Whites in general, the reasons for which I have already given previously. I do not know why, if white levels of competency are dropping in general, they would not also be dropping among Whites in the federal workforce for the same reason. I do not understand the resistance to the idea of this being the case.

    I have twice now agreed that declining levels of competency among whites is part of the problem. I have seen no acknowledgement from you that hiring practices might be a factor AT ALL (perhaps I missed it though, feel free to show me where you did so). That is why I believe you were (and still are) ascribing the outcome to a single cause. Above you comment about some applicants lacking skills. With good hiring practices that does not matter as long as you still have enough skilled applicants.

    Above you also wrote:

    There are just not a lot of triple digit IQ younger Whites in this country, certainly not enough to fill all the jobs where they are needed.

    I am skeptical of that claim. FWIW, I think the white competency issue has more to do with education and motivation than underlying IQ (as you allude to in your more recent comment). Teaching people things that are untrue and focusing on silliness that has nothing to do with getting things done is bad. Rewarding people in the workforce for those same things (e.g. “diversity statements”) is even worse.

    So let’s return to what seems to be your primary claim.

    I am just asking if our welfare and immigration systems are having a neutral effect, a positive effect or a negative effect on workforce quality, including both the private sector and the public sector.

    I would say negative, but I think the education and societal focus issues I raise are a more important negative effect. And both of those negative effects can be countered to a large degree by better hiring (and promotion, for that matter) practices.

    For comparison, how do you feel about this question?

    I am just asking if current federal hiring practices (both longer term like veterans preferments and more recent like the Obama changes noted above) are having a neutral effect, a positive effect or a negative effect on federal government workforce quality?

    In particular, when compared to the Civil Service regimen used prior to the early 1960s which has been gradually neutered since then. The final sentence of this quote is rather Orwellian IMO. It is hard to argue that most of those measures have been used to work for parity rather than preferences (age being the obvious exception).
    https://burbank.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=1689&meta_id=89402

    After World War II, the rise of collective bargaining in the public sector and the civil rights movement affected the civil service system, bringing the ideas of Equal Employment Opportunity, affirmative action, and equal pay for equal work into the world of personnel administration. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, Equal Pay Act of 1963, Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 all marked the growing inclusiveness of public personnel policies and procedures. These movements clearly spoke to the fundamental civil service ideal that appointments are based on merit established by competitive processes, not on any other factors.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1167. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    You’re a child. Past time you grow up.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1168. res says:
    @HA

    You mean with regard to those ouchy hurty needles? Oh wait, that’s YOUR cowardice.

    Still with that bogus explanation. You really are shameless.

    It has been a while since I asked you these questions. Your refusal to answer the first is telling.

    Are you current on your Covid vaccines? Hypocrite or sheeple?

    • Replies: @HA
    , @Mr. Anon
  1169. epebble says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Just watched this:

    Billionaire investor Ray Dalio is worried about ‘something worse than recession’:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/billionaire-investor-ray-dalio-is-worried-about-something-worse-than-recession-full-interview-237257285807

    He has written a book on ‘Big Cycles’ in world power dynamics.

  1170. @Jack D

    ‘Why were they interested in penetrating the DEA of all US gov agencies? ‘

    The only explanation I’ve been able to come up with for Israel’s activities in the lead-up to 9/11 is that they were bird-dogging for al Qaeda (albeit probably without al Qaeda’s knowledge).

    The art students et al were just trying to get in anywhere; where’s a vulnerability? Then Israel’s asset in al Qaeda could suggest doing x. After all, the operation didn’t have to be 9/11. It could have been a repeat of Oklahoma City. All that was required was that there be a terrorist outrage, that it be successful, and that the perpetrators be Muslim.

    This fits with what actually happened. Al Qaeda executes 9/11. Israelis are caught exulting. The ties to Israeli intelligence are so clear the FBI holds the Israelis for eleven weeks.

    How else does one explain the art students?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1171. J.Ross says:

    “I Was A Teenage Commie Deep-Cover Spy.”
    https://archive.ph/D8ztW

  1172. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    ‘…Am i, really, just so full of sh#t? Do I talk like a crazy rambling homeless guy in the ER at 4 AM? Lissen, dood, I really don’t give a flying f#ck about whether you think I’m being straight or not; it’s the hermeneutics which interests me..

    All I said — and all I am saying — is that I didn’t notice any particular change in the Nineties. I can think of various perceptible transitions that occurred over the course of that decade — but nothing to do with what you seem to be claiming happened.

    Why are you getting upset about this?

  1173. epebble says:
    @Greta Handel

    Looks like the caving was tactical. ‘Uncaving’ will happen, gradually . . .

    Commerce Secretary Lutnick says tariff exemptions for electronics are only temporary
    Lutnick said “semiconductor tariffs” will likely come in “a month or two.”
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/commerce-secretary-lutnick-tariff-exemptions-electronics-temporary/story?id=120752319

  1174. @James B. Shearer

    This doesn’t exactly refute their point that it was a stupid thing for the Ukrainians to do. If you are already at a disadvantage in what has become a war of attrition because your opponent has a bigger population than you it is unwise to expend your limited manpower in offensive operations without a compelling reason.

    How would anyone be able to judge the utility of the attack when neither side releases casualty figures?

    I highly doubt the attack was done at a whim. It was mostly a calculated decision to fight Russians on Russian ground instead of Ukrainian. The Russians are less likely to use their glide bombs in a Russian oblast. In Ukrainian territory they have no care if their glide bombs go off course and hit a neighborhood.

    Defensive tactics work better where the enemy isn’t willing to use scorched earth tactics.

    In any case the usual pro-Russian bloggers (Larry, Ritter, Maryanov) were all completely wrong in their expectation that the offensive would be immediately crushed.

    And is it true that the Russians routed the Ukrainians at the end by sending troops through the shut down gas pipeline?

    No one is claiming that the Russians routed the Ukrainians through a pipeline attack.

    An assault group used the pipe but it isn’t clear as to whether or not it was a success.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1175. Mark G. says:
    @res

    “I have seen no acknowledgement from you that hiring practices might be a factor at all.”

    I told you that the government might be engaging in manipulation of hiring practices to increase the hiring of less qualified minorities rather than more qualified Whites. That would lead to a less qualified workforce overall. So, yes, I am aware hiring practices are a factor in workforce quality.

    If you agree there is a causal chain between our declining workforce competency and our dysgenic welfare and immigration systems we are in agreement. I did not think the person I was having a discussion with was agreeing with me on that or, if he was, he was not making it clear to me.

    I finally just walked off on him. I spend a lot of time engaging in lengthy arguments here which, to be honest, I find unpleasant. Forty years ago I was getting in constant arguments with my wife. One day I realized I did not have to do this and could just walk out the door. I did and my life became more pleasant. I am starting to think of leaving or radically cutting back on arguing with people here. I am 68 years old, have a limited time left here on this earth, and need to prioritize and spend my remaining time mostly on things I enjoy.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @res
  1176. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    You mean with regard to those ouchy hurty needles?

    Again with the needle bulls**t? Nobody opposed vaccine mandates because they are afraid of needles. They opposed them because they are tyrannical.

    If you weren’t a craven, vile piece of s**t, you would understand that. But then you are a craven, vile piece of s**t.

    • Replies: @HA
  1177. @Mark G.

    With the Next New Comment / blueberries software out for repair, I’ve been ripping down to the bottom of the page upon each return, and then scrolling back up the thread.

    I usually recognize you within a few lines.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  1178. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    Employing ad hominem instead of addressing the salient point I made? Look in the mirror first before calling me a child.

  1179. @John Johnson

    “No one is claiming that the Russians routed the Ukrainians through a pipeline attack.”

    See Awful Avalanche:

    “It’s been all over the news, so you may have read about the feat of the 800 Russians who crawled 15 kilometers through a gas pipe to surprise the enemy rear in Sudzha. A feat so crazy you think it never could have worked, and yet it did. …”

    “…The ploy was so successful, it literally drove the enemy into a panicked stampede.”

    “…And it wasn’t even the first time the Russians have used pipes for a surprise attack; and yet the Ukrainians keep falling for this gag every time.”

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @HA
  1180. Mr. Anon says:
    @Colin Wright

    I stated in a comment up-thread (in a reply to that same post by Jack D) a plausible explanation for why these “art students” (i.e. spies) were so interested in the DEA. Also, it should be noted that they were not exclusively interested in the DEA.

    I agree with your hypothesis. Israel was bird-dogging for AQ, smoothing the way for them. Although they may have had more active involvement as well, as Ryan Dawson has described (e.g. placing car bombs in the WTC parking garage, disabling the building’s fire-suppression system).

    The national security state was all but salivating for a major terrorist attack to justify a massive military operation in the mid-east and the normalization of repressive measures in “The Homeland” (a term that nobody ever even used prior to 9/11, by the way). Phillip Zelikow, for example, wrote a treatise about the need for “national myth-making” in order to gin up public support, or rather public acquiescence, for war and repression. In a remarkable coincidence, he ended up directing the official 9/11 inquiry.

    https://corbettreport.com/911-suspects-philip-zelikow/

    The Patriot Act was not written in the weeks immediately prior to 9/11. It existed in a near finished form already back in 1995. Joe Biden even bragged that he had “written the Patriot Act”. Of course he didn’t. That was just more Biden-malarky. It was written by staffers and lobbyists. But his statement indicates that he was proud of the accomplishment. The intention had been to ram it through after the OKC bombing, but there was still lingering public opposition to government overreach after the 1994 election. By the way, the OKC affair was not as the public myth would have it either:

    https://corbettreport.com/requiem-for-the-suicided-kenneth-trentadue/

  1181. Compared to who? And it hasn’t been established that you in particular ARE a white person. You have that Hindu pretending to be white vibe like a several commenters around Unz do.

    Exactly! The white masses compare quite well to the masses of other countries or groups. Only idiots would try to replace the core population of successful nation. The “elites” are the problem.

    It’s also funny that the people who bark about lowbrows and midwits turn a blind eye towards the lowbrow and midwit culture that has replaced our traditional culture. Why is that?

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  1182. A small dispatch from the former United Kingdom:

    Way back in the Thatcher years, or even the Blair years, diversity (at least non-Polish diversity) was reasonably easy to avoid unless you absolutely had to live in a major city. There were huge areas of the UK – pretty much all the rural areas, for example, big chunks of the former industrial North, all of Wales outside Cardiff and a few bits of Swansea – where the only diversity was in the staffing of the Indian and Chinese restaurants.

    Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak, both letting in over a million a year, introduced small market towns to Francophone Africans, and local authorities in high-rent and diverse places like London discovered that they could solve their housing benefit issues – namely that they could no longer afford to subsidise increasing numbers of “deserving cases” to live there – by sending their tired masses out to cheaper places like Llanelli, Neath, Bradford – and Hartlepool, a depressed former industrial and fishing town in the North East.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/west-london-council-homeless-family-hartlepool-b1222198.html

    A west London woman and her 19-year-old daughter are sofa surfing after their local council refused to rehome them unless they accepted a property 275 miles away.

    Soheila Serkani, 45, was told she and her daughter must move to Hartlepool after being evicted from their private rented home last month.

    Hillingdon Council accepted a homelessness duty towards the pair when they became homeless in March, but made only one offer of a new home, in Hartlepool, just south of Newcastle in County Durham.

    After sofa surfing for several weeks while in communication with the council about whether they would receive help, Soheila had to make the impossible decision to refuse the offer over fears the radical upheaval would have a disastrous impact on her and her daughter’s mental health, force her to leave her job and tear them both away from their support network.

    I believe the names are Iranian.

    Soheila’s teenage daughter is autistic and has ADHD. She also has mental health issues including anxiety, borderline personality disorder (BPD), and suicidal tendencies. Soheila herself suffers from chronic depression and anxiety and she fears the radical change of environment will be devastating for their mental health.

    Soheila said she has been extremely concerned about her daughter’s welfare since being made homeless. She said: “For five years she worked with CAMHS (child and adolescent mental health services), and now adult mental health. She depends on me for everything and we’ve been in a state over this.

    “She has a history of self-harm, and I really am concerned about what would happen if we had taken that move. Her support network of friends and family is so important, but they tried to threaten us and make us move hundreds of miles away – it would be devastating for her.”

    I bet the Hartlepool local authority can’t wait to be responsible for them.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @Colin Wright
  1183. res says:
    @Mark G.

    I told you that the government might be engaging in manipulation of hiring practices to increase the hiring of less qualified minorities rather than more qualified Whites. That would lead to a less qualified workforce overall. So, yes, I am aware hiring practices are a factor in workforce quality.

    That is different from explaining (in part) the decline in competence of white employees. You also said this.

    I have seen some signs of an increased hiring quota for non-Whites. That would not explain, though, why there is a deterioration in the quality of White employees.

    What I see is you agreeing hiring practices influence hiring non-whites over whites. But nothing about hiring practices influencing the hiring among whites.

    So do you now agree that change in hiring practices might explain some of the decline in competence in white federal employees? If so, any thoughts on the relative magnitude of the effects due to these causes?
    – Declining IQ among American whites.
    – Education and social changes among American whites.
    – Hiring practices concerning American whites in the federal government.
    – Whites as a declining percentage of the American population for younger ages (smaller pool for selection).

    Your original argument was focused on the first. You acknowledged the second in a later comment. I still have not seen an explicit acknowledgement of the third. I can’t recall if you mentioned the fourth or not (I did not until now).

    My sense is IQ is declining, but slowly and not that much, with the other factors being more significant. But there is room to argue about the relative levels of importance.

    I am especially curious about your take on the Obama era hiring practice changes given those were fairly recent and you have been working there continuously for so long.

    US race demographics by age (circa 2018) here. Most useful plot after the MORE.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/07/30/most-common-age-among-us-racial-ethnic-groups

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1184. @muggles

    Let the battle of midgets commence!

    “Let’s keep it civil here, boys…”

    Hmm…

    Go fuck yourself.

    Oh well. So much for civility.

  1185. @YetAnotherAnon

    It was 1974 – not the London shows here, but “oop North”. As I said, the Teds were out in force, having been pretty much invisible since 1963.

  1186. Mike Tre says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak, both letting in over a million a year, introduced small market towns to Francophone Africans, and local authorities in high-rent and diverse places like London discovered that they could solve their housing benefit issues – namely that they could no longer afford to subsidise increasing numbers of “deserving cases” to live there – by sending their tired masses out to cheaper places like Llanelli, Neath, Bradford – and Hartlepool, a depressed former industrial and fishing town in the North East.”

    This is exactly what Richard Daley started doing as soon as he became mayor of Chicago in 1989: Using Section 8 vouchers to move housing project negroes to the near south and west suburbs (but not so much the near north Suburbs…. funny that). Most of those town were absolutely destroyed within a single generation.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  1187. @James B. Shearer

    That’s not a route and the success of the attack is contended:
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-kursk-pipeline-surprise-attack-/33346763.html

    Ukraine is claiming that it was only 100 Russians.

    The Russians that filmed themselves show a much smaller group.

    In the comments section of the pro-Russian blog you sourced there is clearly disagreement on exactly what happened.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1188. @Corvinus

    ‘…The fact of the matter is that Colin is advocating for something that is IMPOSSIBLE to implement in our representative democracy.’

    I know that.

    It’s regrettable. However, I don’t see a preferable alternative.

    The fact of the matter is that we had a lovely, functional system…that turned out to be vulnerable to exploitation and perversion — albeit more or less unconscious exploitation and perversion — by a group like the Jews of Eastern and Central Europe.

    The Jews of Eastern and Central Europe eventually showed up — and here we are.

    Every successive major immigrant group — the Scotch-Irish, the Germans, the Scandinavians, Chinese, the Irish, the Italians, the Poles, Hispanics — that has come here has altered America in some way, some good, some bad.

    But always, the system has adjusted, and it has continued to function reasonably well, even if it has changed. America is not what it was two hundred years ago — but there it is. Generally, each group has exerted an influence about proportional to its numbers, and if big city police departments became Irish, so what? Life went on.

    With Jews, that has ceased to be the case. They have a wildly disproportionate effect, and an intolerable effect. Unchecked immigration, the encouragement of black criminality, ever-escalating sexual degeneracy, the collapse of the legal system into interminable pilpul, support for the most vile First-World state since Nazi Germany…what do you want? If there was ever any doubt of the effect Jews have, the Biden administration conclusively demonstrated it.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1189. Mike Tre says:
    @Mark G.

    “Veterans are given veterans preferences because they are less qualified than nonveterans. ”

    This is a weak conclusion*. Especially for hiring in law enforcement or other first responder fields. College degree holders are given preferential consideration because they have college degrees. Are they less qualified than non degree holders?? (Actually, they often are! LOL)

    *Unless you are specifically referring to “veterans preference” as a euphemism for minority preference, then it is likely more often the case.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1190. @YetAnotherAnon

    ‘…Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak, both letting in over a million a year, introduced small market towns to Francophone Africans, and local authorities in high-rent and diverse places like London discovered that they could solve their housing benefit issues – namely that they could no longer afford to subsidise increasing numbers of “deserving cases” to live there – by sending their tired masses out to cheaper places like Llanelli, Neath, Bradford – and Hartlepool, a depressed former industrial and fishing town in the North East.’

    Something similar seems to be going on in the mildly depressed Oregon logging town that I now call home.

    Six years ago, when we decided to buy here, one deciding factor was that we were in the town for three days before we saw a black (typically, conferring with the local police about something in the Walmart parking lot).

    Now, I can figure on seeing a couple of blacks any time I run an errand. Aside from illegals being shipped here direct from some African shit hole (look for no socks), they also seem to be getting pushed out of Portland or wherever.

    Oh well. There goes the low crime rate.

    There also, incidentally, appear to be increased numbers of Chinese, other Asians, and various marginally white types. These are disturbing as well — but of course the blacks are what I’m really not interested in putting up with.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  1191. @bomag

    Thank you, bomag, yes. In that situation I had driven two days, with one night’s rest, from Boulder, Colorado with my girlfriend to meet her parents in West Palm Beach, Florida. She had grown up in Brooklyn, and those retired parents had owned and operated a pasta factory in New York.

    I had no warning that I would be eating pasta with the pasta factory guidos in Florida, so I didn’t prepare myself.

    After that sad dinner, we went the next night to dine at The Breakers at a corner table with my girlfriend’s sister and the sister’s lawyer boyfriend. I had no idea at the time where I was or how fancy people think that place is. I was just having dinner at a corner table with friends.

    This, like all of my “Superman” stories here, is true. They were just experiences, nothing monumental or worthy. (I am an experienced writer, so I tend to think that I have a knack for describing things better than ordinary schlub commenters can. Okay?)

  1192. @Colin Wright

    A good guide to a desirable town in the UK would be if the taxi drivers are white.

  1193. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “bulls**t…s**t…s**t…They opposed them because they are tyrannical.”

    But don’t forget the ouchy-hurty part. Those meanie nasty needles!

    Next time, just imagine that the vastly overused asterisk key you have to keep pressing again and again, given the deteriorating quality of the gutter-speak your dwindling brain is forced to make do with in its feeble efforts to construct a coherent sentence, is actually splattering out a big splotchy black and gangrenous spider-vein mark.

    You know, just like the one that the big scary needle makes when it jabs into your pasty flabby skin, causing you to wince in pain. I know it’s been a while, since you go to such inordinate lengths to avoid those situations, but try to remember, if that dwindling brain of yours can. Oh the horror of it!

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1194. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “See Awful Avalanche:”

    So you’re regurgitating what the likes of Awful Avalanche spew out, and still pretending you’re just an “observer”? How was I able to see that from a mile away?

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1195. HA says:
    @res

    “Hypocrite or sheeple?”

    You really think either of those would be worse than being a bedwetting needle-phobe? It’s been three years now — maybe it’s time you got over that.

    At the very least, you should fix your own issues before trying address mine (oh, if there were only some catchy Biblical proverb that encapsulates that advice, but hasn’t been rendered into noise by tiresome hacks who can’t come up with an original thought to save themselves and therefore keep rehashing the same old catchphrases).

    • LOL: res
  1196. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    But don’t forget the ouchy-hurty part. Those meanie nasty needles!

    You really are a f**king retard. In addition to being an odious piece of s**t.

    Next time, just imagine that the vastly overused asterisk key you have to keep pressing again and again, given the deteriorating quality of the gutter-speak………..

    Only when addressing you and Corvinus – such is the company you keep. Construe from that what you may, a**hole. You are addressed the way you deserve to be addressed.

    • Replies: @HA
  1197. epebble says:
    @deep anonymous

    Another ugly incident. We seem to be competing for the ugly contest with Russia and North Korea. China looks heavenly by comparison.

    Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
    Man who says he had previously left and re-entered the country multiple times alleges border officials called him ‘retarded’ and boasted ‘Trump is back in town’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/australian-with-us-working-visa-detained-insulted-deported

  1198. Mr. Anon says:
    @res

    Apparently, “HA” stands for “Horse’s Ass”.

    • Agree: res
  1199. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “However, I don’t see a preferable alternative.”

    It’s not even preferable nor an alternative.

    “The fact of the matter is that we had a lovely, functional system…that turned out to be vulnerable to exploitation and perversion”

    The same way your southern ancestors implemented Jim Crow?

    “— albeit more or less unconscious exploitation and perversion — by a group like the Jews of Eastern and Central Europe.”

    First, this is an opinion. Second, when you taught, did you reference this “fact” to your students? After all, public schools are supposedly indoctrination centers, so didn’t you have a duty to deprogram your classes?

    “Every successive major immigrant group — the Scotch-Irish, the Germans, the Scandinavians, Chinese, the Irish, the Italians, the Poles, Hispanics — that has come here has altered America in some way, some good, some bad.”

    So is your baseline by which you measure change when only European white men with property governed, with slavery intact and women who knew their proper place? Is this how those groups you mentioned then altered the country in a way that it is unrecognizable? Seems to me that you would favor that return to this “ideal”.

    “America is not what it was two hundred years ago”

    That is natural for countries to not be what they once were.

    “Generally, each group has exerted an influence about proportional to its numbers”

    Not African Americans in the South after the Civil War. Besides, each group back in the day remained in ethnic enclaves, with the Irish or Germans gaining control over local and state politics. Yet these two groups remained dependent upon the groups for their power and influence.

    “With Jews, that has ceased to be the case. They have a wildly disproportionate effect”

    Assuming that feminism, civil rights, and labor laws, for starters, were exclusively Jew creations. A host of people from different races and ethnic backgrounds were involved in developing the ideological framework.

    “Unchecked immigration, the encouragement of black criminality, ever-escalating sexual degeneracy, support for the most vile First-World state since Nazi Germany…what do you want?”

    First, this is your opinion, as over exaggerated as it is, that Jews are squarely to blame for these things. Second, there is a myriad of complex, interrelated factors that have led to our current problems when it comes to immigration, minority crime rates, and online pornography.

    Listen , I get it. To you, they are your enemy. You want other white people to feel the same way. Then, you hope enough anger will be generated to the point that Jew power will be minimized, at worst, or removed from our borders, at best. But I look at things realistically, and what you propose is a pipe dream.

    “If there was ever any doubt of the effect Jews have, the Biden administration conclusively demonstrated it.”

    What makes you think what you say is immutable fact, that no one can ever question you?

    “the collapse of the legal system into interminable pilpul”

    JFC, not this again. Europeans, specifically the British, were the inventors of extending into legal thinking and jurisprudence debates the etymology of words, meaning that you can justify anything out of any context, even if the original context had nothing to with the latter justifications based on manipulative cunning, logical fallacies, ad-hominem attacks, and strawman tactics.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1200. Old Prude says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Poetry and music don’t necessarily mix. Set Longfellow to music and it’s a bust…

    That droning stuff you posted is neither poetry nor music.

    Despite all your extensive showbiz experiences, you don’t have any taste in either music or poetry. I still love you, brother. Don’t ever change…

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  1201. Corvinus says:
    @Jack D

    “See the Woke and the Men of Unz have something in common… they both hate Jews”

    Let’s be more honest on your part, Uncle Leo. The “woke”, the Men of Unz, and Jews all have something in common…they hate certain groups of people. Because reasons.

    “If the Woke hate Jews”

    Maybe they just hate what Israel is doing to Palestinians, and especially those particular Jews who act superior?

  1202. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “Only when addressing you and Corvinus – such is the company you keep.”

    Um, YOU are the one choosing to keep company with us. I didn’t invite you, and you didn’t pick up any of that transparently pathetic tough-guy talk from me. Maybe if you could unravel your deep-seated insecurities about needles, you won’t have to spew all that rough and tough swagger in a desperate effort to deflect from the hot salty tears the needle ouchies bring to your eyes.

    Or don’t. Whatever you choose, I’ll see through it like a bad combover. Just make sure that asterisk key is in good shape, and don’t let any of that sputtering sputum and those hot salty tears drip on it. I bet it was made in China, and I’m not sure it was “exempted” the other day when Trump totally didn’t cave in in the last tariff war salvo. So it might get pricey if you ever need to replace it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1203. J.Ross says:
    @emil nikola richard

    5:25 am, communters rushing to work, I wonder if visibility was bad. But surely all of them noticed the bump.

  1204. @Mark G.

    the percentage of veterans in the federal workforce has remained stable for the last twenty years

    Maybe so, but the veterans themselves might not be so stable…

    • Replies: @res
  1205. @muggles

    On a second read, muggles could have been more concise. Doesn’t it come down to this?

    But this opinion piece was clearly a public document accusing Israel of “genocide” and other one-sided criticisms.
    • • •
    But the fact is, our guest here was being rude to her host.

    (Voltaire didn’t really say that critical stuff about rulers, though.)

    In your time spent on things other than this woman’s op-ed in her college newspaper, have you read of any people being ICEd for speech about other topics?

  1206. Anon 2 says:

    Re: Israel

    Israel is not doing well.

    1. Moody’s has recently downgraded Israel’s credit rating from A2 to Baa1,
    citing gloomy business prospects. Israel’s economy is not designed to handle
    a long war. Unfortunately, the war shows no sign of ending. Neither side is
    strong enough to achieve a decisive victory;

    2. Similarly to Russia, thousands of well-educated Israeli Jews are leaving
    Israel, and are not likely to return. There are videos of Israeli Jews who
    have escaped to Hungary;

    3. According to the Israeli government data, about one-third of the Israeli
    Jews are mentally ill.

  1207. HA says:
    @Curle

    “In other words the nation will return to following George Washington’s guidance…”

    Not till we swipe Canada and Greenland and Panama, and come to think of it, Australia is surely better off in our hands than China’s, so we probably need to add that to the list. And don’t forget all those beachfront hotels and gold Trump statues we need to erect in Gaza. Once all that’s done we can go longing for the sweet bygone years when we didn’t hanker after monsters to slay.

    Yeah, leave it to the guy who cries over our toppled Confederate “heritage” (and our shameful disrespect for those who tried to import a bazillion Africans to work their plantations for free) to pine for the good old days when we didn’t meddle in foreign affairs.

  1208. @John Johnson

    You originally said:

    “No one is claiming that the Russians routed the Ukrainians through a pipeline attack.”

    In fact as I showed the Russians are claiming that. Now you say the details are disputed. Fine but the source you linked suggests that the Russian version might be true:

    “But if confirmed, the operation would be the second time in just over a year that Russia has pulled off this sort of cunning ambush to undermine Ukrainian positions.”

    and quotes an Ukrainian as follows:

    “The Russians used a gas pipeline to move an assault company, undetected by drones, and drove a wedge into our formations,” Yuriy Butusov, a prominent Ukrainian war journalist with connections to the Ukrainian military, said in a Telegram post.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @John Johnson
  1209. @HA

    “So you’re regurgitating what the likes of Awful Avalanche spew out, and still pretending you’re just an “observer”? How was I able to see that from a mile away?”

    yalensis is a cheerleader for the Russian side just as you are a cheerleader for the Ukrainian side. As an observer I like to get the view from both sides. Incidentally I don’t think you answered my question about the pipeline attack. Was it in fact a successful Russian operation?

    • Replies: @HA
  1210. J.Ross says:
    @epebble

    That’s terrible but not as much so as when it was used against elderly Trump advisors like Stone and that guy in the airport. Look, the Jews occupy us, they’re our masters, they’re not going anywhere any time soon, this pleases them, it allegedly paves the way for concrete benefits like home ownership and the return of manufacturing, so it’s like that one innocent guy who was swept up along with thirty Tren de Aragua terrorists.

    • Replies: @epebble
  1211. J.Ross says:
    @James B. Shearer

    It is rather mysterious to dispute claims when the line on the map moves. If anything is in dispute, then why aren’t the Ukrainians still where they had been before the audacious pipeline sneak?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1212. Old Prude says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    See?! Now that’s fun!

    It needs some T-34s and Pzkw Mk IVs but otherwise, good!

  1213. vinteuil says:
    @Old Prude

    Despite all your extensive showbiz experiences, you don’t have any taste in either music or poetry. I still love you, brother. Don’t ever change…

    Awww…he has his crazy taste.

    I’m forever grateful to him for getting me to listen to Johnny Cash’s Cover of Trent Reznor’s Hurt. Strong stuff.

  1214. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “yalensis is a cheerleader for the Russian side just as you are a cheerleader for the Ukrainian side.”

    No, as much as I am opposed to Russia’s landgrabs being rewarded, I’m not taking a position on Kursk one way of the other, and explained why, and noted that even the Ukrainians themselves are divided with regard to who is making the decisions. Little distinctions like that matter.

    Whereas characterizing it as stupid without at least acknowledging that there’s more to the assessment than what you so one-sidedly laid out, by following the very one-sided source that you chose to rely on (even though, as J Johnson pointed out, the story doesn’t quite add up) that gives the game away as to who you’re cheerleading for, either directly, or merely as a useful idiot for those who have given up pretending they’re merely observers.

    Again, all that was obvious just from the way you so flew right past the likes of J Ross in your eagerness to snipe at me, which is why I was able to call it early on.

    As for the success of the Russian operation, getting their stooge in the White House to shut off communications and shipments certainly does help throw a wrench in the Ukrainians’ wheels, and is definitely a point in Russians favor. Again, your choice to ignore little details like that make it abundantly clear as to which side you’re actually favoring.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1215. @Corvinus

    I scanned this. It appears to be moronic drivel. If anyone feels I missed anything, let me know.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Corvinus
  1216. @Joe Stalin

    Russia using 1950s truck based on WW2 design:

    Gosh I sure hope that Trump can end the 2.5 week special operation in 24 hours as he claimed. I guess it is just a matter of time before the 24 hours starts.

    My heart of spite will hold on for you Putin! I can’t explain how this helps White people but my spiteful soul shall defend your royal dwarfness until the very end.

  1217. @James B. Shearer

    No one is claiming that the Russians routed the Ukrainians through a pipeline attack.

    In fact as I showed the Russians are claiming that. Now you say the details are disputed. Fine but the source you linked suggests that the Russian version might be true:

    Who is claiming a rout? Do you understand what a rout is?

    https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Rout

    It’s a disorganized and chaotic retreat of the enemy. It doesn’t mean sneak attack or successful attack. A rout is when the enemy completely loses structure and discipline. I see no evidence that a rout happened.

    “The Russians used a gas pipeline to move an assault company, undetected by drones, and drove a wedge into our formations,” Yuriy Butusov, a prominent Ukrainian war journalist with connections to the Ukrainian military, said in a Telegram post.”

    Yes that was an initial comment from a journalist which is still not a rout. A wedge is not a rout and the Ukrainian government maintains that the assault only had 100 members and was ultimately defeated.

    It’s rather suspicious that we don’t have any video of these 800 soldiers.

    My guess is a successful but limited attack that was exaggerated by pro-Putin bloggers for PR purposes. I highly doubt the Russian government could even find 800 gas masks.

    • Replies: @res
    , @James B. Shearer
  1218. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    Wah, wah, wah……….HA wrote some things. Who gives a damn?

    You’re driveling, slight man. Get back in your lockdown cave.

    • LOL: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
  1219. Mr. Anon says:
    @Colin Wright

    @Corvinus

    I scanned this. It appears to be moronic drivel.

    That is immediately apparent from the header: “Corvinus says:”

    • LOL: Nicholas Stix
  1220. epebble says:
    @J.Ross

    I think we should not conflate judicial convictions with mafia tactics. Roger Stone was convicted by a federal court. Criminal conviction in any federal court is a high bar to pass. Just picking a guy returning from vacation for no reason at all except to intimidate him has no analogy to judicial process.

    Roger Stone Found Guilty of Obstruction, False Statements, and Witness Tampering
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/roger-stone-found-guilty-obstruction-false-statements-and-witness-tampering

    Even if one accepts “Jews occupy us”, how does that translate to a CBP inspector going rogue unless the whole chain of command has been corrupted. It is the corruption of entire government that is more worrisome than a random lawyer being harassed.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  1221. @J.Ross

    It is rather mysterious to dispute claims when the line on the map moves. If anything is in dispute, then why aren’t the Ukrainians still where they had been before the audacious pipeline sneak?

    Lines based on what? A wordpress blog?

    Martyanov is one of the most prominent pro-Putin bloggers and he claimed the Kursk pocket collapsed a few days after it happened. Well he was obviously just a tad off.

    There is no global authority on these lines as if it is a board game with neutral referees.

    Bakhmut changed hands numerous times with both sides claiming control.

    I’m not convinced on the Russian blogger’s take on the pipeline attack given the video available.

    It looks like a group of conscripts in a pipeline with limited equipment.

    A well planned assault would have special forces with night vision and suppressors. It really looked like village drunks that had been put in the pipe and told to keep moving. The attack was probably a limited success but I don’t buy for one second that it changed battlelines or had 800 soldiers.

  1222. @muggles

    “Also, a Nazi sympathizer, yes?”

    Heidegger wasn’t just a Nazi sympathizer, he was a bis-auf-die-Knochen Nazi (a Nazi to the bone), who joined the party before von Hindenburg put Hitler in power.

    Hannah Arendt was his Jewish student and lover (some Jews and Nazis—like Fritz Lang and Thea von Harbaugh—needed each other, big time). There’s a moment in Eugene Genovese’s wife’s (Elizabeth Fox-Genovese) bio of Arendt, Hannah Arendt: For Love of the World, in which Arendt met Mrs. Heidegger at a party. Mrs. H, who apparently was unaware that Arendt was a Jew (her Jewdar was apparently broken; Arendt looked plenty Jewish), much less that she was her husband’s mistress, asked the young woman if she’d joined the party yet.

    My undergraduate alma mater, SUNY Stony Brook, had a Heideggerian-dominated philosophy department, which is weird, when you consider that most of them considered themselves men of the Left. And they all visited West Germany, including one of my old profs. And yet, when a Frenchman wrote a book on Heidegger and the Nazis, American academics professed to be shocked. But how could that be? I learned early on, say 1981 (one year in), that he had been banned for life from teaching after The War, due to his Nazism, and a year or two later, I read his 1933 Rektoratsrede (presidential address) at the University of Freiburg, which was the clearest thing he ever wrote, and in which his Nazism was pivotal.

    (Arendt actually became a much more important thinker than Heidegger. He apparently cast a hypnotic spell on students, but there was nothing spellbinding about his works.)

  1223. res says:
    @Almost Missouri

    The best part of the GCT saga is the response to the declining performance. They declared the test outdated and cancelled it in 2020. More details here.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whatever-happened-to-the-uss-bonhomme-richard/#comment-4729748

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  1224. res says:
    @John Johnson

    Who is claiming a rout?

    Here is one. Emphasis added.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20250322140352/https://sofrep.com/news/the-commandos-who-cracked-kursk/

    An amazing vertical envelopment that may never be repeated. Now, the Ukrainian units occupied the blue-shaded spaces. There were many of them between the blocking force and the Russian ground attack. It’s fair to say those AFU troops were routed.

    On March 10, the 155th Marine Brigade broke through to the blocking force from the northwest (their left flank), and the 30th Guards Motor Rifle Regiment and an Akhmat battalion broke through from the northeast (their right flank).

    The flanks were closed, and the pipeline raiders were relieved.

    Sudzha fell shortly thereafter, and the Kursk salient collapsed.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1225. @John Johnson

    “Who is claiming a rout? Do you understand what a rout is?

    https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Rout

    It’s a disorganized and chaotic retreat of the enemy. It doesn’t mean sneak attack or successful attack. A rout is when the enemy completely loses structure and discipline. I see no evidence that a rout happened.”

    The source I quoted referred to a “panicked stampede”. That sounds “disorganized and chaotic” to me. Do you disagree?

  1226. @HA

    “… by following the very one-sided source that you chose to rely on …”

    I cited it to show such claims were being made not that they were true.

    • Replies: @HA
  1227. @OilcanFloyd

    “It’s also funny that the people who bark about lowbrows and midwits turn a blind eye towards the lowbrow and midwit culture that has replaced our traditional culture. Why is that?”

    Occam’s Razor suggests the answer: They hate us and want us dead. Kind of like that New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg declared a few years ago, to the effect that (((they))) will or can replace us.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  1228. I’m a trifle concerned that this is turning into Karlin 2.0.

    AK was very bullish about the SMO, turned out he was incorrect and (Ukraine plus NATO weapons/instructors plus US ISR/targeting) was a lot tougher nut than (Ukraine). Incidentally another planeload of US weapons landed in Rzeszow yesterday.

    So that forum is surely the place for the “is/not/is/not/is double/not double and no returns” posts.

    Steve generally avoided the topic apart from the odd bit of snark about a three-day operation. Perhaps we can keep on topics that the great man (for so he is, we all have flaws and blind spots) would choose?

    Trump and his policies is a much more Stevey topic.

  1229. @epebble

    Even if one accepts “Jews occupy us”, how does that translate to a CBP inspector going rogue unless the whole chain of command has been corrupted. It is the corruption of entire government that is more worrisome than a random lawyer being harassed.

    Maybe you need to translate for us “going rogue” and “random,” and explain why you included them.

    I doubt that you expect anyone to believe that this man and his family were targeted solely at the inspector’s whim.

    • Replies: @epebble
  1230. @YetAnotherAnon

    Perhaps we can keep on topics that the great man (for so he is, we all have flaws and blind spots) would choose?

    A man can look the other away, or he can fail to perceive what he’s staring at. Sailer built his business around the first, but blew it with the second.

    See what I mean?

  1231. @Mark G.

    They should abolish school buses and make children walk to school or use bicycles.

    Build homes with an upper floor so that people have to run up and down a staircase several times a day.

    Have mandatory physical education five times a week in school.

    Make the age for buying fast food the same as the age for beer.

    Build indoor soccer courts within 200 yards of all family homes.

    Ban sugar from bread.

  1232. Mark G. says:
    @res

    “So do you now agree that hiring practices might explain some of the decline in competence of Whites.”

    Possibly. You have to consider, though, that the main purpose of manipulating hiring practices would be to enable anti-White leftists to hire an increased number of less qualified non-Whites over more qualified Whites. There would be little benefit to hiring less qualified Whites over more qualified Whites. So I think they might manipulate things so they could continue to hire the most qualified Whites while giving an advantage to non-Whites over Whites. From my forty years of federal experience, this is how I imagine their thought process would be involving this. However, you could be right that changes in hiring practices might be part of the decline of White competency levels in federal government jobs.

    As for Obama, it was under him that I first heard the phrase “diversity is our strength” repeated frequently. There was a push to hire and promote more non-Whites. Even if they were not doing this, though, the percentage of Whites would be decreasing in federal jobs since the percentage of Whites is decreasing in the population. The government and the private sector is competing for a shrinking supply of competent Whites when it comes to hiring.

    We are running two trillion dollar a year federal deficits now. This is no longer Coolidge era America where a budget cutter could get elected to the presidency. I think we are headed for a serious crisis and it may not be possible to fix things by political means. This includes getting involved in political arguments out on the internet and trying to change the minds of people impervious to reason. Yesterday I went hiking at a state park and then read a book on the history of blues music. I would like to do more of these enjoyable non-political types of activities since I am not sure engaging in any kind of political activity is going to do much good at this point as far as stopping our decline.

    • Replies: @res
  1233. epebble says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Instead of all those intrusive and infeasible measures, I have some simple economic incentive/disincentive plan:

    1. $5 per gallon obesity tax on gasolene

    2. 100% ad valorem obesity tax on automobiles

    3. 50% or $300, whichever is smaller, refundable tax credit for buying a bicycle.

  1234. @YetAnotherAnon

    Trump and his policies is a much more Stevey topic.

    Why has there been no explanation about the failure to release the CIA JFK files before? What is in there that required classification for over 61 years?

    Why has there been no explanation for the New Jersey drones other than “the FAA knew what was going on”?

    If there is anything else Donald the Fat is involved in I refuse to distract myself with it. The strategy is to drive you to distraction. I suppose you can fall for it. This is a freedom that remains.

    I saw a great video a couple days ago. A presentation in a fancy Washington book store by Jefferson Morley on his Angleton book from 2017. Half of it was audience questions. None of the question askers were women or negroes. In 2017 Jefferson Morley thought the Russia investigation was credible. None of the questioners asked about that part. If you have zero tolerance for stupidity I am afraid the internet cannot do much for you. It is going to be there in some form or another everywhere and all the time.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1235. epebble says:
    @Greta Handel

    See my post 1230 on what they did to an Australian man. Instead of simply saying we cancelled your visa and please return home on the first flight, they harassed and humiliated him. This has been going on for so many travelers that many foreign tourists have deleted U.S. from their itinerary. This Mafiaization of CBP did not happen due to ‘Jews’. This is an indication of systemic corruption of government.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  1236. @epebble

    Another crooked reply to a straightforward question.

    At least half of your comments are posted to obscure.

  1237. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “I cited it to show such claims were being made not that they were true.”

    I think you maybe should have led with that, or diversified the claims you were citing, as opposed to declaring from the very start that the incursion was “stupid”. I’m no expert, but I can think of any number of reasons to justify it, whatever the final verdict may be.

    And anyway, at what point in this process of single-mindedly echoing Russian propaganda poiints do the blinkers fall off and you realize that any pretense of objectivity was just a sham?

  1238. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “HA wrote some things. Who gives a da*n?”

    Clearly YOU do, given all the attention you’re giving me. How do you not get that? And you forgot the asterisk this time — maybe I shouldn’t have reminded you that it’s shaped like the ouchie the needle makes on your pasty flesh — so I added it in for you. Or maybe you’re worried about having to replace it, given that Monday is apparently a tariffs-are-back-on day here in MAGA-land and the exemptions were revoked. In either case, you’re welcome.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  1239. res says:
    @Mark G.

    There would be little benefit to hiring less qualified Whites over more qualified Whites.

    Benefit to whom? Consider the following.
    – Less qualified woman vs. more qualified man.
    – Less qualified woke vs. more qualified non-woke (or pick other personal or political attributes).

    Do you think those never favor the less qualified?

    I think the key point here is removing the top three limitation (if I understand correctly) opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1240. @HA

    You mean with regard to those ouchy hurty needles? Oh wait, that’s YOUR cowardice.

    Do you use heroin? If no, why not? Afraid of needles you big pussy?

    • Thanks: Mr. Anon, Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @HA
  1241. @Jonathan Mason

    They should abolish school buses and make children walk to school or use bicycles.

    There are entire communities that don’t have sidewalks.

    You are talking about more kids getting hit by cars just because some parents don’t exercise their kids.

    It would also increase kidnappings.

    Not a viable solution.

    Have mandatory physical education five times a week in school.

    The schools have cut back on PE as a result of political pressure to equalize the results in standardized tests. That has been supported by both liberals and our doofus “public skool unions must be da problem” conservatives. An alliance against the reality of inequality.

    But expanding PE is at least viable. They could take out the social sciences which is half liberal fuzz anyways. My high school psych class felt entirely like an attempt at neutering White men.

  1242. Mark G. says:
    @res

    “Benefit to whom?”

    One benefit of having higher IQ Whites working in a federal government office is so they can be used to cover up the negative effects of hiring Iower IQ non-Whites, thereby enabling them to more easily continue the practice. For example, there have been a number of times the low IQ Blacks in my office could not figure out some complex accounting issue so my boss had me do it instead. In some of those cases the boss was a low IQ Black themselves, having been picked over me and promoted into their position. So there is an incentive to keep a few smart white people around to do the difficult stuff.

    Another thing you have to consider is that the stated public hiring policies might not be the actual policies they use. There are lots of dishonest people working for the government. For example, people in higher management are not supposed to promote their friends or girlfriends into jobs over others who are more qualified. Yet I have seen it happen. This might mean they have a public hiring policy that appears to disfavor more competent Whites but that might not be the actual policy they are using in reality.

    You still might be right, though, that government hiring practices might be resulting now in less competent Whites being hired. I do not claim I am right about everything. I could very well be wrong on this.

  1243. res says:
    @Mark G.

    Another thing you have to consider is that the stated public hiring policies might not be the actual policies they use.

    That is an excellent point. Judging things like that is where your experience is very helpful.

    There are lots of dishonest people working for the government. For example, people in higher management are not supposed to promote their friends or girlfriends into jobs over others who are more qualified. Yet I have seen it happen. This might mean they have a public hiring policy that appears to disfavor more competent Whites but that might not be the actual policy they are using in reality.

    Not sure if it was intentional, but your hypothetical is the opposite direction (policy disfavors competence) from your more concrete examples (policy favors competence, but reality is different).

    Thanks for the conversation.

  1244. @Mark G.

    In some of those cases the boss was a low IQ Black themselves, having been picked over me and promoted into their position. So there is an incentive to keep a few smart white people around to do the difficult stuff.

    Yes and those White people are paid less which makes a further mockery of the entire system.

    There is another aspect to this wonderful creation called Affirmative Action which is that resentment develops against the merit based hires that take the difficult tasks.

    Liberals and conservatives don’t get that the AA system creates these uncomfortable workplaces where certain hires are naturally resented. People with power aka managers don’t have to follow some imagined ethical system of liberalism. Meaning they can fire Bob if they get tired of him being right too often or getting too much credit. This actually puts pressure on the talented to not be so talented. Meaning don’t shine too much or the AA boss will find an excuse to cut you and get a new Bob. This just further drags down the system.

    You still might be right, though, that government hiring practices might be resulting now in less competent Whites being hired. I do not claim I am right about everything. I could very well be wrong on this.

    I’ve known many people in government and this is true for general hires. It however is not true for specialists. They will make Whites compete against each other if something has to get done correctly or requires an advanced degree. But for a general office position they don’t want competent White men. They don’t want Bob getting in such a position and making everyone else look bad. It’s really no different for large corporations. You get these gangs of mediocre workers that don’t want to be overshadowed.

  1245. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    You don’t have anything of substance to reply in rebuttal, so you take this route. Not surprised.

    But I will say that your non response to this is telling.

    YOU–“albeit more or less unconscious exploitation and perversion — by a group like the Jews of Eastern and Central Europe.”

    ME–First, this is an opinion. Second, when you taught, did you reference this “fact” to your students? After all, public schools are supposedly indoctrination centers, so didn’t you have a duty to deprogram your classes?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1246. Mike Tre says:
    @William Badwhite

    She does use it but she eats it and washes it down with airplane glue.

  1247. @res

    Who is claiming a rout?

    Here is one. Emphasis added.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20250322140352/https://sofrep.com/news/the-commandos-who-cracked-kursk/

    That’s a pro-Russian blogger based in America who most likely doesn’t understand the term.

    Not a Russian military or government source.

    Meaning we don’t have anyone on the Russian side claiming a rout.

    We have video of some Russian conscripts inside a tunnel. There is no reason to believe that 800 soldiers snuck in and caused a rout. Quite suspicious that there isn’t video of the aftermath. An actual rout would mean abandoned equipment. When the Afghan Security Forces abandoned their equipment there were multiple videos.

    Most likely scenario is a successful but limited attack that has been exaggerated by pro-Russian bloggers for propaganda purposes.

    • Replies: @res
  1248. @Mark G.

    “One benefit of having higher IQ Whites working in a federal government office is so they can be used to cover up the negative effects of hiring Iower IQ non-Whites, thereby enabling them to more easily continue the practice. For example, there have been a number of times the low IQ Blacks in my office could not figure out some complex accounting issue so my boss had me do it instead. In some of those cases the boss was a low IQ Black themselves, having been picked over me and promoted into their position. So there is an incentive to keep a few smart white people around to do the difficult stuff.”

    But most smart white people would find such a working environment unpleasant and seek employment elsewhere. Another way abandoning merit hiring leads to a general decrease in quality.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @John Johnson
  1249. @Corvinus

    ‘…ME–First, this is an opinion. Second, when you taught, did you reference this “fact” to your students? After all, public schools are supposedly indoctrination centers, so didn’t you have a duty to deprogram your classes?’

    1) I taught math, not ‘my opinion.’

    2) I taught it in the mid-eighties. It didn’t even occur to me to consider Jewishness as a significant aspect of anything until I started paying attention to Israel around fifteen years later.

    The rest is history.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1250. @Mark G.

    ‘One benefit of having higher IQ Whites working in a federal government office is so they can be used to cover up the negative effects of hiring Iower IQ non-Whites, thereby enabling them to more easily continue the practice. For example, there have been a number of times the low IQ Blacks in my office could not figure out some complex accounting issue so my boss had me do it instead. In some of those cases the boss was a low IQ Black themselves, having been picked over me and promoted into their position. So there is an incentive to keep a few smart white people around to do the difficult stuff.’

    This starts a lot earlier. My daughter — who was going to Catholic school, no less — mentioned what was going on as of twenty-thirty years ago.

    It was the ‘group work’ tactic. The class would be broken into groups of four. Each group would have an Asian (or my daughter, or the other smart white kid).

    They would carry the blacks.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  1251. HA says:
    @William Badwhite

    “Do you use heroin? If no, why not? Afraid of needles…”

    How to unravel a comment as colossally stupid as this? Firstly, we’ve already established from COVID itself that I’m not the one scared of the ouchy hurty needles, so if you’re looking for a gotcha to fling in my way, you need to somehow get beyond needles. Did that really need explaining? I know it’s difficult, given how obsessed you are with those pointy little things, and how much real estate they occupy in your brains’ ample fear centers (to the extent that little room remains for rational thought), but come on — make an effort.

    More importantly, unlike vaccines, my doctor has yet to recommend heroin to me (or, really, any other medical directive based on a sample-size-of-one and where cause and effect are connected only by desperate handwaving of the form “potentially played a role”). That’s the key difference between the health experts you and I follow.

    Lastly, I’ve heard you don’t have to use needles to get high on heroin, but same principle applies. There’s just no upside to speak of. Unlike you, I’ve never taken a look at a junkie shooting up on a park bench and said to myself, “Hey, I need to cut me a slice of that.” Whereas avoiding a stint in a hospital bed from COVID or anything else just by way of a simple vaccine jab is some pretty sweet reward for comparatively little risk, especially at a time when ER’s and medical systems are as overstretched as they were during the COVID epidemic. Then again, I don’t sponge off the government for my medical care, and we all know that’s not the case for some of you clowns, so I can see why you’re less particular about your stupid life choices given that the government is there to subsidize them. They say COVID really fogs the brain and in your case, I believe it — looks like you should have gone with that vaccine, after all. Womp womp.

  1252. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    James, I have a response to that but I am not going to continue this with you forever. I already told you I glanced at your comment history. What I saw was you almost constantly arguing with or insulting other people. You seldom agreed with anyone, said anything nice to them or hit the agree or thanks button on a comment. I am 68 years old and have known many people who are overly argumentative and quarrelsome and make life unpleasant for those around them. I want my life to be pleasant in my few remaining years so I am going to cut back on situations where I have to deal with unpleasant overly argumentative and quarrelsome people. I consider the comment sections here at this website to be filled with such people so I will be spending much less time here and more time doing things I enjoy.

  1253. bomag says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Agree.

    Stonewall Jackson was an exceptional person in many ways.

    Quite telling that we can’t acknowledge him but we must acknowledge George Floyd.

  1254. @Mark G.

    “… I consider the comment sections here at this website to be filled with such people so I will be spending much less time here and more time doing things I enjoy.”

    Some people enjoy arguing. Some people don’t. If you don’t enjoy arguing this comments site probably isn’t the place for you.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1255. Mark G. says:
    @Mike Tre

    Well, if veterans are just as qualified as anyone else for government jobs then we can eliminate the veterans preference and they can get those jobs through the normal job hiring process. Right?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  1256. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    Clearly YOU do, given all the attention you’re giving me. How do you not get that?

    Because it’s not true, idiot. I occasionally skim your posts and post an appropriate reply in return – that being contempt and derision, which is all you merit. Tell yourself all you want that people here hang on your every word, if it makes you feel better. They don’t. You are in the same bucket as Corvinus. People here f**king hate you. You’ve earned it. You’re scum.

  1257. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    How to unravel a comment as colossally stupid as this? Firstly, we’ve already established from COVID itself that I’m not the one scared of the ouchy hurty needles,

    Good God, you are stupid. Nobody held the opinion they did about COVID because they feared needles, you idiotic a**hole. What they feared was creeping tyranny. Of the kind pushed by creeping little tyrants like you, you odious little man.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
    , @John Johnson
  1258. Curle says:
    @emil nikola richard

    Why has there been no explanation about the failure to release the CIA JFK files before? What is in there that required classification for over 61 years?

    This.

    https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-753345

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
  1259. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “If you don’t enjoy arguing then this comments site probably isn’t for you.”

    Some people would come here to learn from others. Others would come here to spend time with likeminded people. The fact that you only see this as a place to pick quarrels with others reflects poorly on you. The fact that you almost never have a kind thing to say to anyone here or hit the agree or thanks button on someone elses comment reflects poorly on you. The fact that I pretty plainly told you I consider talking to you to be unpleasant, boring and a waste of my time yet you still do not just quit talking to me reflects poorly on you.

  1260. @Mark G.

    “…The fact that I pretty plainly told you I consider talking to you to be unpleasant, boring and a waste of my time yet you still do not just quit talking to me reflects poorly on you.”

    Whose comments you read and respond to is within your control. Who reads and responds to your comments is not.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1261. Mark G. says:
    @James B. Shearer

    You did not respond to my points that you are here only to pick quarrels with others and are almost never friendly towards others and that this reflects poorly on you.

    Someone should not have to spend time putting another commenter on ignore or leaving this website if they do not want to talk to them. If someone asks you to leave them alone then you need to stop hitting the reply button and saying additional things to them. If you do not do that you are a troll.

  1262. @Colin Wright

    “Me! I mostly taught Algebra I, and we had a department-wide final in that. The classes of some teachers scored literally about what one would get with random guessing. My classes routinely scored twice that.”

    Why do you think you achieved better results than the other teachers? Why did you give up teaching?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1263. res says:
    @John Johnson

    Not a Russian military or government source.

    Meaning we don’t have anyone on the Russian side claiming a rout.

    So now we get to play no true “Russian source.” Disappointing, but unsurprising.

    Let’s return to your earlier comment.

    No one is claiming that the Russians routed the Ukrainians through a pipeline attack.

    An assault group used the pipe but it isn’t clear as to whether or not it was a success.

    Notice the difference? In case not, that would be the lack of any qualification of “No one”.

    There is no reason to believe that 800 soldiers snuck in and caused a rout. Quite suspicious that there isn’t video of the aftermath. An actual rout would mean abandoned equipment.

    “No reason”, seriously? You don’t consider the subsequent collapse of the Ukrainian Kursk position evidence that something happened?

    Are you claiming the Ukrainians did not leave abandoned equipment while departing Kursk? This looks a fairly pro-Ukrainian source.
    https://wavellroom.com/2025/04/02/operation-flow-and-the-ukranian-withdrawal-from-kursk/

    Even so, an 82nd Air Assault Brigade soldier (the formation that engaged the Russians) also reported that although his unit was aware of the plan and repelled Russians that emerged from the pipeline, a number still managed to infiltrate the area of northern Suzdha. He told this was ‘the reason why his brigade was forced to destroy part of its available equipment and withdraw from the eastern flank to the city of Sudzha itself, completely losing contact with part of the troops in the forward positions.’

    So even though spinning the overall success, we still have Ukrainian equipment being destroyed (by Ukrainians, that is usually what happens when equipment is abandoned) as a direct result of the pipeline operation.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1264. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “I’m not grumpy. I simply treat you with all the consideration you deserve: utter contempt and nothing more.”

    Fool, what you said epitomizes grumpy. The glue factory can’t come soon enough for you.

    • Troll: Mark G.
  1265. @James B. Shearer

    But most smart white people would find such a working environment unpleasant and seek employment elsewhere. Another way abandoning merit hiring leads to a general decrease in quality.

    That’s assuming they even get a chance in the environment which in many cases is nil.

    For certain positions they are not going to allow a White guy unless he is clearly gay or disabled. I in fact knew a White guy who was told off the record to not bother applying for certain positions. They told him it was a waste of time and to move or find a new career.

    You guys don’t understand how much of the workforce is controlled by bitter liberal White HR women with an agenda. Both you and Mark are boomers that haven’t been in the trenches of what so many Gud Whites of your generation helped foster.

    These HR ladies already resent the fact that certain technical positions don’t have the rainbow list of candidates like on television. It pisses them off and they will make an excuse to not give Devin a chance in the marketing department. Certain positions are not available for White men. They are just not available and everyone in the department knows it. Meaning everyone working there knows the score. People are not as dumb as our politicians seem to think.

    Conservatives imagine large corporations to be merit based cause “muh private market” which shows their naivety. They incorrectly assume that these positions are at least mostly merit based because there is a bottom line. Well what happens is that you get a bunch of mediocre workers that collude against talented Whites out of group interest. They use the diversity excuse to justify rejecting some White guy. That includes mediocre White men that don’t want a White guy outshining them. They don’t want Devin P Whitey coming in and pointing out where they are dragging the company.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1266. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “Nobody held the opinion they did about COVID because they feared needles…”

    Have we stopped pretending no one reads what I post? Anyway, you keep telling yourself that, as comforting as it must be. I’m sure you’ll at least convince each other that you kept wetting your mattresses over a vaccine that a billion people took (but is still not safe enough for you because you’re just too tender and fragile and special) and all that had nothing whatsoever to do with your abject fear of needles.

    You know, these days they make band-aids with Sponge Bob and My Little Pony on them. Consider buying a pack. Maybe if the nurse stuck one of those on your ouchie, it would terrify you less.

    • Troll: Mark G.
  1267. @res

    Notice the difference? In case not, that would be the lack of any qualification of “No one”.

    Yes well I would think it is common sense to take that as referring to an authoritative source and not some American with a wordpress blog. That is hardly different than “cause some guy at the bar said so”.

    I’ll specify:

    No one on the Russian side with a legitimate connection to the government or military is claiming a rout. I haven’t seen such a claim so feel free to provide one. Until then this smells like pro-Putin bloggers exaggerating an attack for PR purposes. It was a creative and daring attack but I don’t see evidence of a rout or 800 men as claimed. The most suspicious part is that the video from the pipeline shows men with limited equipment. It appears more like a suicide mission with conscripts and not special forces.

    “No reason”, seriously? You don’t consider the subsequent collapse of the Ukrainian Kursk position evidence that something happened?

    I don’t believe for one second that the pipeline attack changed battlelines. Land is taken through a combination of infantry, artillery and armored vehicles. These are massive areas that cannot be taken with lightly geared soldiers. It’s very difficult for infantry alone to remove an entrenched army. Just walk through the woods and imagine how many places you could setup an ambush. A small platoon can tie up hundreds of men for weeks if there isn’t artillery. This was why WW1 was a stalemate. It’s really hard to push forward against machine guns with infantry charges. One burst of a machine gun turns a dozen of your men into bleeding cripples. Then what? Even if you bandage them up you’ll have screaming men that need attention. The enemy gets a turn and might decide to snipe you when attending to them. Isn’t war fun.

    Are you claiming the Ukrainians did not leave abandoned equipment while departing Kursk? This looks a fairly pro-Ukrainian source.

    I am not claiming that. I said that in an actual rout there would be abandoned equipment.

    But abandoned equipment itself isn’t evidence of a rout. Militaries will leave disabled equipment in a withdrawal.

    That newer article you cited doesn’t claim a rout and describes a limited success. That to me is the most likely scenario.

    Most of what happened in Kursk is still a mystery. There is a lot of speculation on the goals and tactics used. No one thinks that Ukraine planned on taking Kursk indefinitely. There are a lot of theories but we probably won’t know the answers until the war is over. We do know that the usual pro-Putin bloggers (Ritter, Martyanov, Berletic) were completely wrong in the unanimous belief that the pocket would quickly collapse. Interestingly the US military advised against the Kursk operation. It’s against US military doctrine to intentionally create a pocket in enemy territory.

    • Replies: @res
    , @James B. Shearer
  1268. @Mr. Anon

    I knew someone who gave shots during COVID and fear of needles was cited daily as a reason for not wanting to get it.

    They were doing hundreds of shots per day and would get a couple people that would chicken out at the last minute over the needle. Or even a pass out before the shot was given.

    Interestingly they had no way of predicting if someone was afraid of needles.

    A big burley biker was just as likely to back out as anyone else. They in fact worried the most about some big guy collapsing over the needle.

    They also would have anti-vaxxers scream stuff like “I AINT GETTING NO DAMN MICROCHIP SHOT” when it was all voluntary. Just people walking by and yelling at them. Sometimes f-bombs with kids around. Lovely.

    So yes I suspect there is indeed overlap with anti-vaxxers. There is undoubtedly a subset of anti-vaxxers that has a fear of shots and wants a justification for avoiding it.

    But I’m not sure why COVID is still such a topic here. The flu shot is actually more important.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1269. @Curle

    According to Jefferson Morley, Angleton himself read a copy of all of Lee Harvey Oswald’s mail 1959-1963 (this was known already by 2017 at the latest) so the the significance of this Efron character seems greatly exaggerated. But thank you for linking the article which is very interesting.

    • Thanks: Curle
  1270. res says:
    @John Johnson

    I don’t believe for one second that the pipeline attack changed battlelines. Land is taken through a combination of infantry, artillery and armored vehicles. These are massive areas that cannot be taken with lightly geared soldiers. It’s very difficult for infantry alone to remove an entrenched army. Just walk through the woods and imagine how many places you could setup an ambush. A small platoon can tie up hundreds of men for weeks if there isn’t artillery. This was why WW1 was a stalemate. It’s really hard to push forward against machine guns with infantry charges. One burst of a machine gun turns a dozen of your men into bleeding cripples. Then what? Even if you bandage them up you’ll have screaming men that need attention. The enemy gets a turn and might decide to snipe you when attending to them. Isn’t war fun.

    Hmm. So you are saying the rapid collapse (after initial stasis, which just happened to end around the time of the pipeline operation) of the Ukrainian salient in Kursk resembled static WW1 trench warfare?

    You realize you just made a case for the pipeline operation being important? One of the ways you break through an entrenched army is by getting troops into rear areas and causing panic and/or disrupting things (e.g. that is a big part of the rationale for paratroopers). If your description of the battlefield was accurate the Ukrainians would still be there forcing the Russians to grind out costly yard by yard gains.

    Here is a timeline of the Kursk invasion circa Feb 2025. Following the initial surprise invasion in August 2024 months of grinding battle as you described.
    https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine%E2%80%99s-kursk-incursion-six-month-assessment

    The pipeline operation happened March 7th giving access to Sudzha near the center of the salient.
    https://sofrep.com/news/the-commandos-who-cracked-kursk/

    A couple of weeks later the salient almost disappeared.
    https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-21-2025

    Current status.
    https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-8-2025

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1271. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.

    I am a Bible believing Christian, but I find myself agreeing with almost everything Mark G says, and his comments are about 80 percent of the reason I visit this website.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  1272. @HA

    How to unravel a comment as colossally stupid as this? Firstly, we’ve already established from COVID itself that I’m not the one scared of the ouchy hurty needles, so if you’re looking for a gotcha to fling in my way, you need to somehow get beyond needles.

    That you think anyone’s objection to the ‘Vid shot is the needle demonstrates your breathtaking stupidity and dishonesty.

    blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID More importantly, unlike vaccines, my doctor has yet to recommend heroin to me

    You should try it. Its good for you. You’ll feel great. Start with a really big dose first.

    blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah blah COVID blah blah COVID .

    Zzzzzz

    • Replies: @HA
  1273. HA says:
    @William Badwhite

    Ah yes, the old “blah blah” nugget. I guess it’s been, what, a week or more since you posted it the last time? You always manage to squirt that one out like ink off a scared squid whenever you’ve nothing better to offer, which obviously happens a lot. (Are cephalopods terrified of needles, too?)

    Yeah, you guys should just keep going with stuff like that and hope no one notices. Maybe toss in a “physician, heal thyself” and some LOL’s if you’re especially desperate. Or else, you could bring up Kursk and Gettysburg a propos of nothing, and hope for a best two-out-of-three, though I see that has already been tried that once in this thread, so maybe hold off on that one.

    • Troll: Mark G.
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  1274. @HA

    Oh look, another 100+ words from your hysterical Gypsy woman.

    Ah yes, the old “blah blah” nugget.

    Oh, I thought you liked repetition, given all your posts saying the same thing over and over, mixed in with “fanboy”.

    Hey gypsy, this will blow your mind – I got the Shingles vax back in December and it was delivered…drum roll please…via needle.

    Seriously though – give the heroin a try. Its good for you.

    Replies: HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
  1275. Mike Tre says:
    @Mark G.

    I don’t have a problem with that.

  1276. HA says:
    @William Badwhite

    “I got the Shingles vax back in December and it was delivered…”

    Oh, you want a gold star? I hope you at least managed to score a lollipop out of it.

    But unless you’re endorsing that heroin from experience — in which case, a whole lot of other things about you and your life choices come into focus — swallowing a Xanax so as to get past your night sweats and bedwetting once every decade or so is not going to impress anyone you’ve overcome your fear of the ouchies.

    • Troll: Mark G.
  1277. @John Johnson

    I knew someone who gave shots during COVID and fear of needles was cited daily as a reason for not wanting to get it.

    Kind of a biased sample there, wouldn’t you say, Mr. Johnson? Those were the people who came in to take the jab. For those of us who didn’t for serious medical, religious, or political reasons (or a combo), you don’t know who is afraid of needles, because we resisted your tyranny and scare tactics and didn’t come in!

    I’m guessing lots of people who were scared of needles were the pussies who didn’t have the brains and guts to resist. How are your clots coming along, HA?

    .

    BTW, even Steve Sailer did this stupid “fear of needles” thing in a few of his blog posts and comments back in the day. That pissed me off, because he’s generally a very honest guy.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
    , @John Johnson
  1278. HA says:

    “I’m guessing lots of people who were scared of needles were the pussies who didn’t have the brains and guts to resist.”

    Finally! At least one of you seems to be catching on. Maybe that COVID fog isn’t permanent after all?

    “How are your clots coming along, HA?”

    Based on actual research, they’re a lot less likely than the ones in those who stupidly chose to ride COVID bareback. Fewer deaths, fewer hospital stays (ask your fellow loon Mark G about that), fewer problems all around. If it were otherwise, there’d be something better to bounce back and forth in your truther echo chamber than “research” to the contrary which turns out to be

    sample-size-of-one [“datasets”] in which the “victim” died a full year and a half after his COVID shot, and even the authors of the predatory-publishing scam journal in which this “research” was printed would only go so far as to say the vaccine could have “POTENTIALLY played a role”.

    But even that bit of buffoonery didn’t bother to ask how much greater the likelihood of a clot is for those who got COVID without any protection, and that’s the relevant criterion. What, did you really think that COVID in the wild is clot-free?

    • Replies: @HA
  1279. Mark G. says:
    @John Johnson

    “You guys don’t understand how much of the workforce is controlled by bitter liberal White HR women”

    I’m a Boomer but I am still working so I know all about the White liberal HR ladies. The majority of White females voted Republican, though, in the last election. What is keeping affirmative action in place at a political level is the majority non-White left.

    This is why you should not focus solely on trying to fix affirmative action. You need to reverse the immigration and welfare policies that led to the large number of anti-White minorities in this country that are helping to keep affirmative action in place with their votes. I am not optimistic, though.

  1280. HA says:
    @HA

    BTW, even Steve Sailer did this stupid “fear of needles” thing in a few of his blog posts and comments back in the day.

    BTW, with regard to who gets to call who stupid around here, I omitted one crucial detail: if one actually follows the link I provided to that sample-size-of-one display of comedy gold from the truthers — again, we’re talking a sample-size-of-one, a full year-and-a-half delay between vaccine and death, and the only connection between the two consisting of weasel words like “POTENTIALLY playing a role” (and on top of that, published in some predatory-publishing scam journal) the J. Ross comment in which it was submitted was given a “Thanks” by the following gaggle of idiocrats: Almost Missouri, Mike Tre, Adam Smith, Mark G., and last but not least, Achmed E. Newman.

    The fact that you yourself were willing to slap a thanks on something that colossally and comically idiotic should tell you all you need to know about why people like Sailer and Cochran remained largely unimpressed by you and your fellow truthers.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  1281. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “1) I taught math, not ‘my opinion.’”

    No, but you gave it to your kids on some fashion about blacks unable to perform well in this subject.

    “2) I taught it in the mid-eighties. It didn’t even occur to me to consider Jewishness as a significant aspect of anything until I started paying attention to Israel around fifteen years later.”

    You mean when you became indoctrinated.

    • Troll: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Curle
  1282. HA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “BTW, even Steve Sailer did this stupid ‘fear of needles’ thing in a few of his blog posts and comments back in the day.”

    BTW, with regard to who gets to call who stupid around here, I omitted one crucial detail: if one actually follows the link I provided to that full blown display of comedy gold from the truthers — again, we’re talking a sample-size-of-one, a full year-and-a-half delay between vaccine and death, and the only connection between the two consisting of weasel words like “POTENTIALLY playing a role” (and on top of that, published in some predatory-publishing scam journal) — the J. Ross comment in which it was posted was given a glowing endorsement of “Thanks” by the following gaggle of idiocrats: Almost Missouri, Mike Tre, Adam Smith, Mark G., and last but not least, one Achmed E. Newman.

    The very fact that you yourself were willing to slap a Thanks on something that colossally and laughably moronic should tell you all you need to know about why people like Sailer and Cochran remained largely unimpressed by you and your fellow truthers. So maybe try and notice and correct your own stupidity before presuming to lecture anyone else on theirs. Were you to do that, maybe people would take what you say more seriously.

    • Troll: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1283. @HA

    … should tell you all you need to know about why people like Sailer and Cochran remained largely unimpressed by you and your fellow truthers.

    I was not under the impression that I’m here to impress Mr. Sailer or this (Greg?) Cochran guy that I’ve never read from. Not my job.

    I like Steve Sailer’s writing for the most part, but I don’t have to agree with him on everything. He took the normie line on both the Kung Flu PanicFest itself (though he got better by the summer) and the vaccine. I didn’t believe him.

    However, I do have a post in praise of Mr. Sailer coming. I was gonna do that today, but between Federal and State income tax, and writing comments on TUR, it’ll have to come manana. Hopefully you won’t have keeled over by then and will be able to read it.

    • Replies: @HA
    , @Mark G.
    , @Corvinus
  1284. HA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “I was not under the impression that I’m here to impress Mr. Sailer or this (Greg?) Cochran guy that I’ve never read from. Not my job.”

    You apparently are here to chide him on his COVID stupidity in spite of the far more egregious display I pointed out to you. Stuff like that makes an impression, regardless of whether or not it’s why you’re here.

    And as I also noted, you’re hardly an outlier, and that stupidity is shared by the gamut of truthers who have similarly continue to whine about how Sailer let them down. In the end, the lot of you are no different from those Berkely school activists who wanted to “restructure” math and science curricula because it was racist and didn’t cater to ther students’ “needs”.

    • Troll: Mark G.
  1285. @John Johnson

    “Yes well I would think it is common sense to take that as referring to an authoritative source and not some American with a wordpress blog. That is hardly different than “cause some guy at the bar said so”.”

    yalensis describes himself as an ethnic Russian (one of whose grandfathers was killed by Stalin) currently living in the US for unspecified reasons. I am well aware he is not totally reliable, his obvious need to believe the Russians are the good guys here leads him astray at times. Which is why you will note I preceded my original reference in comment 1061 to the pipeline operation with “Is it true ..”. I figured HA would give us the Ukrainian spin on the topic. Which seems to be to try to talk about something else.

  1286. Mark G. says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “However, I do have a post in praise of Mr. Sailer coming.”

    There were things about Steve I did not like over the last few years like his support of our proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine, a thing a number of other comenters complained about. One of the other things that a number of commenters complained about was Steve spending time on subjects like sports, music and movies. That was actually one of the things I liked about him. Normal people have multiple interests and talk about multiple subjects and do not spend all their time on political quarrels.

    I have not looked at the latest open thread Ron Unz has set up here and have little desire to. I think a lot of the good commenters were coming here to read Steve and have quit coming since he left. All the attention seeking trolls are still here, though. This has tilted the ratio of good comments to bad ones in an unfavorable direction.

    One of the other reasons I came here was to spend time with like-minded people. I now feel, rather than many such people being here, that I do not have much in common with most of the commenters here. There are just a lot of unfriendly people here who ignore me unless they want to pick a quarrel with me and who I have little in common with. Believers in small government like me might have been common a hundred years ago during the Coolidge era but there are just not many of us around now. That is why we are now running two trillion dollar yearly federal deficits and are heading for a crisis.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1287. EdwardM says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “They” being the state. “Building” all this stuff with money confiscated from you and me.

    Please, with all due respect, take your totalitarian social(ist) engineering and shove it.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1288. MEH 0910 says:
    @Hail

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-refers-ny-ag-letitia-james-possible-prosecution-allegations-mortgage-fraud
    https://archive.is/hF3mT

    Trump administration refers NY AG Letitia James for possible prosecution over allegations of mortgage fraud
    James is accused of listing a home in Virginia as her primary residence and listing her father as her husband on mortgage applications
    By Greg Wehner
    April 15, 2025

    [MORE]

    Federal agency sends criminal referral to DOJ on AG Letitia James
    Apr 16, 2025

    Fox News contributor Jonathan Turley discusses mortgage fraud allegations against New York Attorney General Letitia James in court documents obtained by ‘The Ingraham Angle.’

    Trump urges AG Letitia James to resign amid bombshell fraud allegations: ‘Wacky crook’
    Apr 16, 2025

    Fox News’ Todd Piro reports the latest on the allegations facing New York Attorney General Letitia James.

  1289. @Achmed E. Newman

    I knew someone who gave shots during COVID and fear of needles was cited daily as a reason for not wanting to get it.

    Kind of a biased sample there, wouldn’t you say, Mr. Johnson?

    Well there is a study if you doubt my anecdote.

    Needle-fearing individuals are twice as likely to put off COVID vaccine
    https://oxfordbrc.nihr.ac.uk/treating-needle-fears-may-reduce-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy/

    If you had actually worked with the US public then you wouldn’t at all be surprised. We have a real problem with adults that have childish fears.

    you don’t know who is afraid of needles, because we resisted your tyranny and scare tactics and didn’t come in!

    Tyranny? Another anti-vaxxer that has a hard time with independent opinion. I don’t give out shots and I am not the government.

    BTW, even Steve Sailer did this stupid “fear of needles” thing in a few of his blog posts and comments back in the day. That pissed me off, because he’s generally a very honest guy.

    It’s a well documented phenomenon and you clearly have a hard time with anything less than total conformity when it comes to COVID. You and others seem to forget that this is an open forum and Steve does not have to agree with you on every matter.

    Your local doctor can tell you about needle fear and most likely supports the vaccine. Maybe you should go accuse him of tyranny.

  1290. Corvinus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Flu PanicFest itself (though he got better by the summer) and the vaccine. I didn’t believe him.”

    He was mostly right on those things. I get it. It’s hard to overcome your confirmation bias.

    Given how you and Hail were whimmed by him, I guess you feel a duty to run roughshod here.

    • Troll: Mark G.
  1291. @James B. Shearer

    Why do you think you achieved better results than the other teachers?

    1. No talking — ever.
    2. No bathroom passes.
    3 . You don’t do homework, I phone parents.
    4. Carefully thought out, scrupulously delivered lessons with frequent practice exercises. Points awarded when called upon for answer. Right-2 points. Wrong-1 point. ‘Que?’ – 0 points.
    5. I was always available for tutoring, an hour before school and two hours after school. You had to put up with me smoking after school.

    ‘Why did you give up teaching?

    That’s a long story. Multiple reasons. Worth mentioning that they’d decided to cut me back to one Algebra I class. I’d already decided to move on — but that made it easy.

  1292. @John Johnson

    Sorry, that was your friend giving the shots, not you – I got that wrong. I don’t have any regular “local” doctor to ask. I have doctor friends who I’ve never asked this question to. Maybe I will.

    You and others seem to forget that this is an open forum and Steve does not have to agree with you on every matter.

    No, he sure doesn’t. I didn’t say that. In my most recent post, in praise of Steve Sailer, I made just one little footnote about this.

    That was the only time I recall Steve Sailer being dishonest with his commenters. No, he was pissed that he had a bunch of “conspiracy theorists” and, worse yet, low-brow people. in his comment section. He’s smart enough to know that it wasn’t the ouchies that we were worried about regarding the Kung Flu jab. He was just getting pissed off, something fairly rare for him.

    At this point he is pissed at the virtue-signaling cuck Matt Yglesias, and I don’t blame him one bit for that.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @MEH 0910
  1293. @Achmed E. Newman

    He’s smart enough to know that it wasn’t the ouchies that we were worried about regarding the Kung Flu jab. He was just getting pissed off, something fairly rare for him.

    I never said that opposition was entirely motivated by a fear of needles. What I said is that there is undoubtedly an overlap. Anti-vaxxers that ultimately fear needles and look for a reason to avoid vaccines. I cited a study that shows around 10% of the UK population has a fear of needles. That is not at all surprising given what my friend experienced when giving COVID shots.

    That was the only time I recall Steve Sailer being dishonest with his commenters. No, he was pissed that he had a bunch of “conspiracy theorists” and, worse yet, low-brow people. in his comment section.

    The anti-vaxx movement has long been driven by conspiracy theories.

    They initially believed that the vaccine contained a microchip which was not only impossible but would be easy to spot with a microscope even if the government had somehow managed to surpass current tech and shrink it to that level.

    Anti-vaxxers opposed the vaccine before it had been released and that is public record. How is that a science based outlook? They didn’t call for additional testing or perhaps limited application to high risk populations. They were talking about microchips from day one and wanted it completely rejected by the public.

    They tolerate any conspiracy theory within their ranks. I pointed out many times how it was quite curious that they tolerate the conspiracy theory of the virus being a complete fabrication. Well that contradicts their more common belief that the vaccine is worse than the virus.

    That shows that they were never science based. You can claim the virus doesn’t exist as long as you share the same conclusion which is to reject the vaccine. That shows that their movement is political in nature. They are more tolerant of the theory that the virus doesn’t exist rather than limited use of the vaccine in high risk populations. It adds up to a largely feelings based movement that is driven by conspiracy theories.

  1294. @John Johnson

    “If you had actually worked with the US public then you wouldn’t at all be surprised. We have a real problem with adults that have childish fears.”

    It is perfectly rational to not want a total stranger to inject some unknown substance into your arm. It requires a lot of faith in the workings of the system to overcome this natural aversion and voluntarily allow it. The real problem is a lot of people don’t trust the system anymore.

    • Thanks: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @John Johnson
    , @HA
  1295. Mike Tre says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “It is perfectly rational to not want a total stranger to inject some unknown substance into your arm.”

    Even so, the “afraid of needles” was a complete fabrication dreamed up by Sailer, Unz, and their shameless sycophants in the comments. Nobody that was against the kovid injection was afraid of needles. It is one of the stupidest assertions ever made on topic that was overflowing with stupidity.

    It was all projection of course. Sailer specifically, because he had cancer 25 years prior, was absolutely terrified of the KKKovid and it noticeably eliminated his ability to make observations on the event rationally.

    I mean, the guy was literally hiding out in his closet. He was the coward.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1296. Mark G. says:
    @Mike Tre

    “Nobody that was against the kovid injection was afraid of needles.”

    I certainly wasn’t since I got a tetanus shot during the Covid epidemic. The Covid vaccines were rushed through the approval process so there were never any studies done of the long term effects of the vaccines. It was not particularly irrational to be reluctant to take them because of that.

    This was particularly the case with young people. 99.7% of people under the age of sixty survived the disease. The average age of death for Covid patients in the United States was seventy seven and it was the least healthy segment of people in that age group who died from it. Another group which died from it may have actually died from harmful hospital treatments like ventilators or some of the drugs used in treatment like Remdesivir.

    People do a risk-benefit analysis all the time when making decisions. If you understand the concept of “regulatory capture” you know you can’t depend on government regulatory agencies to make better decisions. Industries being regulated can do things like give politicians political donations or ex-bureaucrats jobs to influence government decisions.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  1297. HA says:
    @John Johnson

    “Needle-fearing individuals are twice as likely to put off COVID vaccine…”

    I think that is a low figure. As is apparent from some of the comments above, COVID truthers are hesitant to admit to pollsters or anyone else that they’re pathetic little crybabies, and will instead offer up any cheap rationalization as the supposed real reason they’re just too special to take the jab.

    They’ll dress up their bedwetting night sweats with grandiose talk about tyranny and authoritarianism (and “research” that turns out to have been based on sample sizes of one and published in some Indian predatory publishing scam journal) and then a comment or two later will happily root for Trump and/or act as stooges and useful idiots for Putin.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  1298. @HA

    Now she’s arguing with herself.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1299. @HA

    They, their, them … more broadbrushed bullshit from this pair of mendacious scolds.

    Like many here, I questioned, learned from others, and decided each day to forego the crapshots. I remain grateful for the information and critical thought available at TUR, notwithstanding the “very light moderation.”

    I challenge either one of you to find in my archive any assertion about COVID or the ensuing dempanic that proved to be incorrect.

    • Replies: @HA
  1300. @Mark G.

    I’ve only noticed a minor change, Mark. Though people had a problem with Jack D. for reasons, though something of a know-it-all, he had lots of well-written comments with good info. There were others, and there are still others. The Steve Sailer comment section was a place to not only argue but also to learn, often about stuff that had nothing to do with the O/P. A few others have left, as I’ve seen their names in the SteveSailer.net threads that I could read and not here.

    I also have a problem trying to get the last word in, but I’ve also realized there are people it’s not worth arguing with. With some of them, I agree on a lot else. (That Truth Vigilante piece of work that I had the long, long argument with is a good example. I think I agree with him about 98%, if one can quantify that.)

    Because we generally agree, I like your comments, of course. I hope to still read from you in the future.

    Believers in small government like me might have been common a hundred years ago during the Coolidge era but there are just not many of us around now.

    Yep, even 30 years ago, the Americans that understood the value of limited government were in bigger supply, even in the US Congress. By 1995 or so, I realized we were headed inexorably in the wrong direction.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  1301. @William Badwhite

    Now she’s arguing with herself..

    .. and losing.

    • Replies: @HA
  1302. @EdwardM

    He’s left the country, so there’s that a least. That Statism has been inherent in Jonathan Mason since he stared writing here – he’s learned absolutely nothing from all the wise people here and nothing from his couple of decades of living in the real South, in the Jacksonville, Fl area.

    Hey Mr. Mason, it’s just what I told you. Your SS check goes very far in Ecuador. When the $ goes down the tubes, you’ll need to live like an Ecuadorean. Are you read for that? (Buy property and/or precious metals.)

  1303. @James B. Shearer

    It is perfectly rational to not want a total stranger to inject some unknown substance into your arm. It requires a lot of faith in the workings of the system to overcome this natural aversion and voluntarily allow it.

    Quite amusing that anti-vaxxers can’t keep a consistent message.

    Anti-vaxxers have told us that the COVID vaccine

    1. Isn’t a vaccine
    2. Alters your DNA
    3. Contains a microchip
    4. Is worse than the virus
    5. Is an unknown substance
    6. Is a vaccine but doesn’t work

    Well which is it? Is it an unknown substance or does it alter your DNA?

    Funny how anti-vaxxers tolerate endless theories on the vaccine as long as the conclusion is the same.

    An unknown substance that other anti-vaxxers will eagerly explain how it works or actually doesn’t.

    Real convincing stuff.

    The real problem is a lot of people don’t trust the system anymore.

    Yes and thanks to anti-vaxxers there is now lower flu uptake by Republicans:
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11675663/

    Which means they are rejecting a traditional vaccine for political reasons.

    Mindless tribalism is in action. Now let’s laugh at liberals for group think.

  1304. @John Johnson

    1 – 6, NOT all the same people, John!

    I should leave out (6) anyway, because that’s true by definition, so long as we start with your claim that an injection that doesn’t prevent the disease it’s named after and doesn’t prevent the spread of such is, YES, still a vaccine.

    (1) and (2) make perfect sense together.

    (4) very likely for most people

    (5). True, unless you believe, Mr. Johnson that YOUR government has told you exactly what’s in there. Well, tell me, what’s in there?

    You forgot (7): The vaccine is of no use to me because since DAY 1, sometime in March of ’20, I have not been worried about getting the Flu Manchu.

    Our family did all get the Kung Flu at one point – no problemo.

    Oh, and my wife, a big Panicker through sometime Summer ’20, refused flu shots after that. The last one she’d had* exacerbated her joint pain.

    .

    * Which she harangued me and my son to get, BTW. We only got it due to $10 gift cards. 10 bucks in 2019 money sure cured our fear of needles!

    • Troll: Corvinus
  1305. @John Johnson

    More of this character’s incessant attribution of every opposing argument to each of those making any of them, and then pointing out the fabricated strawman’s supposed inconsistencies.

    See #332 above.

  1306. MEH 0910 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We never know how clean our hotel sheets and towels truly are, for example.

    This NYC firefighter with severe OCD became obsessed with contamination. He was forced to retire early when he couldn’t bring himself to take the Covid vaccine mandated for NYC workers by Mayor Bill de Blasio:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/nyregion/firefighter-mental-health-ocd.html
    Archived link: https://archive.is/DWZY1

    The Hidden Torments of the Firefighter With O.C.D.
    For years, Timmy Reen hid his mental illness from everyone at his New York City firehouse — until his secret was forced out in the open.
    By Joseph Goldstein
    April 17, 2025

  1307. HA says:
    @Greta Handel

    “I challenge either one of you to find in my archive any assertion about COVID…”

    A safe challenge, I’m sure, given the number of people whose lives are so pointless that they’d pore over some truther’s COVID drivel. Not me — your mighty ouvre is safe from my prying eyes.

    As I said, the last time I decided to see what the just-a-flu-bros were up to (and given the widescrpead acclamation the comment in question received, it can fairly be regarded as an above-average sampling), it turned out to be — and I’ll have to say it again given the short attention spans of those whose minds continue to be fogged by COVID — “research” that was based in totality on a sample size of one, in which the vaccine and the death that followed a full year and a half later were connected by handwaving of the form “POTENTIALLY played a role”. All this was wrapped up in a predatory-publishing scam journal alongside “innovative research” on the Indian gig economy and what goes on at Tata industries.

    So again, no thanks. I’m well aware of the analytical acumen of those telling me to “pay no attention to those spikes in the excess deaths graph”. What a surprise Sailer remained unimpressed.

    Is it unfair of me to judge an entire body of work of an entire group of lunatics on the basis of one stupid comment linked to one stupid research article? Tell that to the idiots trying to make hay of research papers based on a SAMPLE SIZE OF ONE. Sampling error surely isn’t a problem for them, is it? But again, just how stupid does anyone have to be to slap a THANKS on something like that? To the extent your’e trying to step in and defend that kind of thing, I guess that means you, doesn’t it? So there you go — challenge accepted, after all. it turns out I didn’t need to wade through your own personal spew of swill to show you up for what you are.

    • Troll: Mark G.
  1308. I can think of many things that I would like to do other than get jabbed by a needle, but that had nothing to do with my refusal to get vaccinated for covid. I think it was a 7th grade science class where we learned how much time and effort went into developing the polio vaccine, that alone was enough to make me question the covid vaccine. A new vaccine for a previously unknown disease in 3 months made no sense to me.

  1309. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “The real problem is a lot of people don’t trust the system anymore.”

    Anymore? Read up on the cholera riots. Crackpots are nothing new, and at some point — unless you’re crazy enough to believe that all those overstaffed ER personnel were crisis actors, which, come to think of it, is a conspiracy theory a fair number of people around here swallowed whole — you have to weigh that mistrust in a vaccine (that a billion and more somehow managed to survive without sprouting a tentacle or whatever), against having to brave a hospital or ER stay — or far worse — at a time when hospitals and ER capacity was hard to come by. Viruses may be natural (though there were conspiracies about that, too) but that doesn’t make them benign.

    For those who don’t sponge off the government for their medical care (like, say, lil’ Markie G, who passed on the vaccine, because he’s a rebel who demands the right to take charge of his own medical decisions, and thereby wound up with a COVID hospital bill that I’m guessing Uncle Sam just doled out to him alongside his salary), and don’t want to trust their financial future to the tender mercies of GoFundMe, they should have weighed their options better than the COVIDiots did.

    Again, the fact that Sailer and Cochran and people like that weren’t impressed says more about their detractors than it does about them. Yeah, when you decide to go for Facebook medical memes over actual doctors, it does tend to cause a bit of a trust breakdown. Instead of defending the people feeding their doubts with conspiracy memes and plugging research papers based on — I kid you not, just follow my earlier links — a SAMPLE SIZE OF ONE, maybe those are the very people you need to start blaming. You think it’s the system that let us down? Give me a break.

    • Troll: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1310. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    but you gave it to your kids on some fashion about blacks unable to perform well in this subject.

    Proportionately this is indisputable. If you doubt it there are statistics galore regarding comparative Black/other math skills in states that mandate testing of such things for school rating/performance reasons. Don’t ask anyone on this site to find it for you. This is your chance to show you can use the internet in a way that corresponds to your own self regard.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @John Johnson
  1311. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    Dude, they are all n—- in your world.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1312. Mark G. says:
    @HA

    “I’m guessing Uncle Sam just doled out to him”

    You know perfectly well my hospital stay for Covid was paid for by the health insurance policy which I had been paying premiums on for the prior forty years, a policy I had never used meaning that I was just getting back the money I gave them. I have told you that several times. This is one of the reasons why you are a troll, because you are a liar.

    You also know perfectly well that doctors who wanted to provide inexpensive home treatments as an alternative to hospital stays were threatened with the loss of their medical licenses because big pharma thought it could make bigger profits pushing for mandatory mass vaccinations of an inadequately tested vaccine and hospital treatments with a three thousand dollar patented drug, Remdesivir. I have pointed that out to you several times too.

    I seem to remember telling you shortly after the start of the Russian invasion the Ukraine was going to eventually lose its war with Russia because its opponent had three times the population and would slowly grind the Ukrainians down. Your response then was the Russians were already running out of men and having to pull them out of prisons. Surely those prisons must be empty by now and the evil Putin must be out of soldiers. Oh, look here I guess not. He just called up more troops:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36718p52eyo

    • Replies: @HA
    , @HA
  1313. @res

    I don’t believe for one second that the pipeline attack changed battlelines. Land is taken through a combination of infantry, artillery and armored vehicles.

    Hmm. So you are saying the rapid collapse (after initial stasis, which just happened to end around the time of the pipeline operation) of the Ukrainian salient in Kursk resembled static WW1 trench warfare?

    Yes the timing was coincidental. Russia had sent around 60,000 troops to Kursk according to Ukraine along with artillery and tanks. There also was never a rapid collapse. The salient had been shrinking for 6 months.

    Your blogger exaggerated the effectiveness of a single mission for PR reasons. It’s a charming war story.

    You realize you just made a case for the pipeline operation being important? One of the ways you break through an entrenched army is by getting troops into rear areas and causing panic and/or disrupting things (e.g. that is a big part of the rationale for paratroopers).

    No I did not make such a case. The story is contended and one Ukrainian source is claiming that most of them died of methane inhalation.

    Breaking through an entrenched enemy is indeed a useful tactic but 100 lightly armed men would not be able change a massive battle area and we don’t know what happened when they left the tunnel. My guess is a limited success but we don’t know.

    The story is suspicious because there is only video of a handful of conscripts in a tunnel. The Ukrainians film their attacks all the time with GoPros and drone videos.

    The Kursk salient appears to be over but not because of a single tunnel attack. The Russians used hundreds of armored vehicles and tens of thousands of soldiers to dislodge them. That included a few thousand North Koreans. These battles have been going on for nearly a year. It wasn’t some last minute Mission Impossible scenario that changed the outcome. The Kursk Salient started as nearly 400 square miles. This is a large area with woods, neighborhoods, swamps, etc. You can’t just pop out of a tunnel and remove all of those troops.

  1314. Corvinus says:
    @Jack D

    Give them their grandparents back, their aunts and uncles and baby cousins. Give their back all their parents’ friends and neighbors and classmates.

    —At least 37 people have been killed in a series of Israeli strikes, most in areas where displaced civilians have set up tents, Gaza’s Hamas-run civil defence agency says.
    Witnesses in al-Mawasi told the BBC that tents were engulfed in flames following a “powerful” explosion, causing the deaths of dozens of Palestinians including children. One man said he woke to “screaming and panic” and watched as “the flames spread rapidly from one tent to another”.—

  1315. Curle says:
    @Corvinus

    Dude, they are all n—- in your world.

    At least we have an insight to the ugliness that comprises your inner thoughts. If you aren’t simply a troll, and I believe you are, the alternative is worse. You’re a man (presumably) who can’t balance competing ideas of the common good in his head at the same time. You demand over simplification that being the hallmark of a simpleton. It explains your characteristic simpleton’s hostility to freedom of association and immigration controls.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1316. HA says:
    @Mark G.

    “You also know perfectly well that doctors who wanted to provide inexpensive home treatments as an alternative to hospital stays “

    You mean quacks wanting to dispense Ivermectin and other stuff that proved to be absolutely worthless in the treatment of COVID? You mean entrusting patients to be responsible enough for their own treatment when they were too stupid to follow basic COVID medical directives in the first place? The ER’s and hospitals were already overcrammed as it was with people too stupid to take a vaccine and do basic social distancing — how many overflow casualties from all the people opting for your “solution” were they supposed to also be able to care for?

    And I’m sure that insurance policy had no connection whatsoever to your government employment, you having been a participant in it way before Obamacare became available. Yeah, no chance there’s some connection there you’re not telling us about.

    Come to think of it, falling for an article published in some predatory-publishing scam journal focusing on Indian topics is a lot like falling for ol’ Vivek Ramaswamy, no? You seem to have a weakness for tat kind of thing, what with pushing Vivek as a pillar of midwestern conservative thought, along with JD Vance and Gym Jordan — only to later find that what Vivek really wanted to once he got in charge was to replace the likes of you with H-1B hires more to his liking. Whatever happened to old Vivek? Are you still keeping tabs? Those midwestern conservatives sure do seem to like the Indians, don’t they? If they’re not marrying them like JD, they’re rooting for them the way you are? Seriously, what’s up with that?

    • Troll: Mark G., deep anonymous
    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1317. HA says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “.. and losing.”

    Yeah, sure — keep telling yourself that. And the next you presume to lecture the internet about peak stupidity, consider the particularly acute example of it that resulted in you endorsing “research” based on a sample size of one. J Ross isn’t much for original thought and prefers to regurgitate. So there has to be some specific mechanism or network in place allowing something from an obscure scam journal focusing on Indian predatory publishing to make it into his spew.

    All the steps in that network that allowed that bit of nonsense to propagate all the way from India to his cut-and-paste center and then winding up with an endorsement from you and the other COVID bros (a sampling of dimwittery far larger than the sample-size-of-one that that research was based on) — and presumably without anyone aside from me bothering to peek under the hood and see how laughably idiotic it was — deserves some investigation.

    Because THAT is some peak stupidity. To the extent you want to stop propagating that stuff like you did there, and start suppressing it instead, you should do a dissection of how all that came together.

    • Troll: Mark G., deep anonymous
  1318. HA says:
    @Mark G.

    “Your response then was the Russians were already running out of men and having to pull them out of prisons. Surely those prisons must be empty by now and the evil Putin must be out of soldiers.”

    Oh, and with regard to yet another one of your lame attempts to shift the topic to Russia any time you get caught with your pants down, yeah, I’m sure your rehash of whatever my response was is an oh-so-faithful rendition of what I actually said. In any case, you apparently didn’t even bother to read your own link, or you would have noticed that these are basic conscription figures for REGULAR army service, whereas those fighting in the “special” operation in Ukraine are “for-pay” mercenaries. Yes, Moscow lies pretty much all the time, and there is some overlap (in particular when it comes to fighting in parts of Russia — e.g. Kursk) but the soldiers in that article aren’t the ones going to Ukraine. Like I said, next time, try reading the article (not to mention the lame sample-size-of-one scam research you slap a “thanks” on).

    Vice Adm Vladimir Tsimlyansky said the new conscripts would not be sent to fight in Ukraine for what Russia calls its “special military operation”. However, there have been reports of conscripts being killed in fighting in Russia’s border regions and they were sent to fight in Ukraine in the early months of the full-scale war.

    As for the soldiers enticed or press-ganged into Ukraine, those are indeed proving more difficult to recruit as can be discerned from the larger and larger signup bonuses needed to find “volunteers”. You think they’re just upping those bonuses to be more generous? I don’t know how long that meatgrinder will keep churning but focusing on Ukraine’s lack of soldier’s without paying attention to Moscow’s isn’t fooling anyone who doesn’t want to be fooled.

    Again, this is the same lame bait-and-switch-to-Ukraine you pull any time I catch you doing something dumb, so that it happens a lot, but this is another swing and a miss.

  1319. Mark G. says:
    @HA

    “And I’m sure that insurance policy had no connection to your government employment”

    Yes, like most working people I get my health insurance through my employer. It is one of the benefits of my job, something I earn rather than is just given to me. Unlike most people, I went through forty years of paying insurance premiums without submitting any insurance claims. I finally submitted one when I had a serious accident caused by someone else that sent me to the hospital and then had further medical expenses when I caught Covid while I was trying to recover from my accident.

    Another benefit of my job is my pension. This is the pension I have not been collecting the last three years since I turned 65. If I were to leave, the taxpayers would have to pay both my pension and the cost of a replacement worker for me. By staying, I am saving them tens of thousands of dollars a year.

    Over forty years ago when I went to work for the army I took an oath to help defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. We have two large oceans on each side of us and a nuclear umbrella over us protecting us and have little to fear from an invasion. There is no reason for us to become involved in the ethnic or religious feuds taking place outside our hemisphere. If you hate the Russians so much, then you should go over and join the Ukrainian army so you can fight them yourself.

    • Agree: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @HA
  1320. @Nicholas Stix

    Good evening to you, Mr. Stix,
    (I just noticed your comment. Sorry for the slow reply…)

    [MORE]

    Does the following count as HTML or plain text?

    (open angle bracket) iframe width=”560″ height=”315″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF7-rz9nIn4?si=m9ZJ4Pp1_zQ5ZYpa” title=”YouTube video player” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share” referrerpolicy=”strict-origin-when-cross-origin” allowfullscreen>(open angle bracket) /iframe>


    Without the added space after the < symbol this would not work in a comment on PeakStupidity. It would count as HTML and would be blocked. (Like this…)

    Seriously though. You have brought up a couple very good questions about blogworks.php. Let's start with the greater than/less than characters. ("above" the comma and the period)

    If you use html tags in a comment on PeakStupidity much of the comment will (likely) be blocked. The standard greater than/less than characters that are found on your keyboard can only be used if there is a space after the less than character. I often use these alternative characters instead…

    < >

    While they may look like the characters found above the comma and the period (using the Shift key) they are not. They are alternative ascii characters not found on the keyboard. Using these (< >) characters instead of (greater than less than) characters you can simulate html code in a comment under one of Achmed’s posts. (Without the added space.) For example…

    PS:

    🎶 Mister, we could use a man like <s>Calvin Coolidge</s> Andrew Jackson again! 🎶

    won’t show a strikethrough, but it will let Achmed and others know that you are drawing a line through Calvin Coolidge (Like this Calvin Coolidge).

    Another fun tip…
    https://fsymbols.com/

    I use this to add italics and bold (and occasionally some other stuff) to my comments on PeakStupidity.

    An example from a recent comment found under this post
    (Achmed prefers this link while I generally interact with PeakStupidity using this link.)

    You may have to tinker a little with the different character options, but you’ll get it. (I’ve noticed that these alternative characters sometimes look different from one browser and/or operating system to the next.)

    So yeah. I’m a little sleepy, but that’s my quick tutorial about how the comments on PeakStupidity work. I hope they make some sense and otherwise answer your question.

    Happy Friday! ☮️

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1321. @Nicholas Stix

    Does the following count as HTML or plain text?

    <iframe width=”560″ height=”315″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF7-rz9nIn4?si=m9ZJ4Pp1_zQ5ZYpa” title=”YouTube video player” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share” referrerpolicy=”strict-origin-when-cross-origin” allowfullscreen></iframe>

    <iframe width=”560″ height=”315″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF7-rz9nIn4?si=m9ZJ4Pp1_zQ5ZYpa” title=”YouTube video player” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share” referrerpolicy=”strict-origin-when-cross-origin” allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Apparently, these alternative characters (< >) are also helpful here.

    Cheers! ☮️

  1322. @John Johnson

    “Quite amusing that anti-vaxxers can’t keep a consistent message.”

    For the record I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am even up to date on my COVID shots. Although perhaps not for much longer.

    “Well which is it? Is it an unknown substance or does it alter your DNA?”

    It is unknown in that I have no easy way of personally verifying what it is and have to take on faith that all the steps from initial approval, production, transportation, storage, retrieval and administration of the shot have and/or will be done properly and without error. And the vaccine has not for example been sabotaged by some anti-vaccine nut:

    “A Wisconsin man was sentenced today to three years in prison for tampering with COVID-19 vaccine doses at the hospital where he worked.”

  1323. Mike Tre says:
    @John Johnson

    “Quite amusing that anti-vaxxers can’t keep a consistent message. ”

    What’s amusing is that you’re too stupid to understand the most important message: Freedom of individuals to make health decisions absent government/employer/social intimidation and threats.

    But since you are likely not white, and are a suck up to Ron Unz (using his childish anti-vaxxer term) I’m not surprised.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1324. MEH 0910 says:
    @Curle

    https://nypost.com/2025/04/15/us-news/gene-hackman-and-betsy-arakawas-filthy-hoarder-home-where-their-mummified-remains-were-found-revealed-in-disturbing-photos/

    Gene Hackman and Betsy Arakawa’s filthy hoarder home — where their mummified remains were found — revealed in disturbing photos
    April 15, 2025

    [MORE]

    It looks like Betsy was the hoarder.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1325. @Adam Smith

    Hey! That was more than even I wanted to know, and I’m the site proprietor! ;-}

    For Nick Stix, that small piece of software trashes all the possible HTML tags to keep someone from hacking the dBase. As I wrote above, I haven’t done anything to the software in YEARS. Mr. Smith has had fun with the special characters that he’s found, sometimes, as he wrote here, to give himself a chance to write pseudo HTML to provide more meaning.

    However, unlike here, you can’t embed video or images, and you can’t do any HTML formatting of your comments. You can still paste links in, as they are.

    I wanted to spend more time writing posts than software. Time-wise, I can’t do both right now.

    Thanks again, Adam, for explaining.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  1326. Corvinus says:
    @Curle

    “At least we have an insight to the ugliness that comprises your inner thoughts.”

    I’m not the one who designated an entire race as being n—-, YOU are. You’re not even denying it.

    “It explains your characteristic simpleton’s hostility to freedom of association”.

    Feel free to live and work in a whites only community. There are a plethora of them in flyover country. No one is stopping you.

    The issue that you can’t wrap your pointed head around is that your southern ancestors failed miserably to consistently and directly adhere to the basic ruling in the Plessy case—separate but equal. Thus, constitutional and legal remedies were demanded by Americans—white and non-white. That was well within the purview of freedom of association, as well as the rule of law and law and order.

    The fraud you are committing here—that there is only one exclusive way by which freedom of association operates—has been exposed. Cut your losses or continue to get curb stomped.

    “and immigration controls.”

    I’ve stated numerous times on this fine opinion webzine the U.S. ought to significantly reduce immigration. What I object to is the belief that only a certain group of people—northern and Western Europeans—are the ONLY ones capable of assimilation into the body politic and social fabric of the U.S., when clearly the historical record shows otherwise.

  1327. Corvinus says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Sailer eventually admitted that he moderated on the basis of “quality of commenter [sic],””

    Please show us the EXACT comment in which he admitted that.

    “This, and the consequent attrition of those of us who didn’t want to put up with it,”

    Didn’t it ever occur to you that he got sick of you, Hail, Achmed, and others gumming up the works? My vague impression is he was exercising freedom of association and, as a private entity and well within his liberty—his sandbox, his rules—what ideas would and would not be presented. It goes to show there is no such thing as unadulterated free speech. There are always consequences for what we say.

    “helped him to maintain an undeserved reputation among his largely sycophantic base”

    Says the woman who desperately wanted her comments to be shown at a place where the owner of the site was gently telling you that you were a nuisance by delaying your comments to be displayed. Now, with the whimming button turned off, we see what havoc you bring here in real time.

    • Replies: @res
  1328. Corvinus says:
    @Hail

    “Some commenters were placed on brown-lists for special moderation purposes, or their names tossed into the “Whimmer.””

    You were one of them, and for good reason.

  1329. @Adam Smith

    I’m not sure if you know how to use the quote button.

    In an analysis adjusted for age, sex, clinical nursing job, and employment location, the risk of influenza was significantly higher for the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated. A calculated vaccine effectiveness of −26.9%

    Did you think that I wouldn’t actually click the link?

    That’s an unreviewed study of a single clinic. It in fact says that in bold letters:
    This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

    Are you going to suggest that the flu vaccine doesn’t actually work?

    Flu vaccines reduce mortality rates and that has been studied for decades
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9305032/

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  1330. res says:
    @Corvinus

    “Sailer eventually admitted that he moderated on the basis of “quality of commenter [sic],””

    Please show us the EXACT comment in which he admitted that.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anniversaries-matter-to-palestinians/#comment-6192144

    Quality of commenter.

    In response to this comment from Dumbo.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anniversaries-matter-to-palestinians/#comment-6191482

    P.S. Why does iSTEVE takes hours or even days to publish some comments, while other commenters are published instantly? Is it pay to play or what?

    Followed by this exchange/clarification. Liza.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anniversaries-matter-to-palestinians/#comment-6192176

    I should think you meant to say “quality of comment”; even a generally low quality commenter can come up with something worthwhile.

    So this won’t see the light of day until Hallowe’en, maybe, if at all. 🙂

    iSteve.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anniversaries-matter-to-palestinians/#comment-6192187

    Lots of low quality comments get approved when I get around to them.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1331. @Mike Tre

    Quite amusing that anti-vaxxers can’t keep a consistent message.

    What’s amusing is that you’re too stupid to understand the most important message: Freedom of individuals to make health decisions absent government/employer/social intimidation and threats.

    That wasn’t the message and I never supported vaccine mandates.

    The anti-vaxxers were against the vaccine before it was released and they had conflicting reasons as to why it should be rejected.

    They along with RFK were adamantly against the COVID vaccine when it was entirely voluntary and promoted by Trump.

    They don’t have a consistent message on if the vaccine works or what rRNA vaccines actually do. They will tell you that mRNA vaccines don’t work and or are not real or maybe do something else that is icky.

    In fact they tolerate anti-vaxxers that deny that virus exists or claim it is actually the flu.

    When mRNA based flu vaccines are released I guarantee that we will be told by anti-vaxxers that they don’t work and or alter your DNA or perhaps contain a tracker. It won’t be a consistent message because they aren’t actually trying to learn how this technology works. They don’t care.

    RFK’s followers for years told us that the Measels vaccine causes autism and he has since changed his mind. I guess a liberal lawyer from Malibu with zero background in biology might get a few things wrong. Maybe next year he will discover that HIV does in fact cause AIDS and thousands of scientists were not pretending to develop antiretrovirals as part of a grand conspiracy. Imagine that.

  1332. @Curle

    Proportionately this is indisputable. If you doubt it there are statistics galore regarding comparative Black/other math skills in states that mandate testing of such things for school rating/performance reasons.

    Well I knew someone that worked in public schools and I can tell you that mandated testing works as it sets a baseline of standards. These were state based standards that were passed by both Democrats and Republicans. A bipartisan effort that forced changes in the schools. Teachers were basically told that they could lose their jobs if they didn’t meet the standards.

    Well mandated testing forced the teachers to change the grades in order to please the politicians.

    Thank you Democrats and Republicans for fixing this inequality. This is why we pay you geniuses 6 figures with a long vacation. You deserve it.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Mike Tre
  1333. Corvinus says:
    @res

    Thanks.

    Here is a key part of this exchange.

    Liza–
    @Steve Sailer
    I should think you meant to say “quality of comment”; even a generally low quality commenter can come up with something worthwhile.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Steve Sailer
    @Liza
    Lots of low quality comments get approved when I get around to them.
    • Replies: @rebel yell, @Corvinus

    Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer
    Does that include your own staccato grievance or snarky, cagey statements?
    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Corvinus
    Pfizer $teve’s blog comments are reliably low quality and low effort, often rife with typos and confused grammar. The best moderators censor only threats* and spam, allowing all else thru posthaste, lest a comment section grow stale like that boring Russian blogger who nobody misses.
    *most threats originate from the FBI, of course, as a pretext to stifling free speech
    • Replies: @Corvinus

    Corvinus
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    “Pfizer $teve’s blog comments are reliably low quality and low effort”

    Yet you’re still here, leading the pack.

    “most threats originate from the FBI, of course, as a pretext to stifling free speech”

    You’re paranoid. Are Jews in your closet or under your bed?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  1334. Corvinus says:
    @John Johnson

    Speaking about RFK… (Mr. Sailer weeps)

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/13/abortions-cancer-in-firefighters-and-super-gonorrhea-rfk-jr-s-cuts-halt-data-collection-00284828

    The federal teams that count public health problems are disappearing — putting efforts to solve those problems in jeopardy.

    Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s purge of tens of thousands of federal workers has halted efforts to collect data on everything from cancer rates in firefighters to mother-to-baby transmission of HIV and syphilis to outbreaks of drug-resistant gonorrhea to cases of carbon monoxide poisoning.

    Then there is this. Will RFK’s most ardent supporters NOTICE?

    https://www.propublica.org/article/measles-vaccine-rfk-cdc-report

    Leaders at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ordered staff this week not to release their experts’ assessment that found the risk of catching measles is high in areas near outbreaks where vaccination rates are lagging, according to internal records reviewed by ProPublica.

    In an aborted plan to roll out the news, the agency would have emphasized the importance of vaccinating people against the highly contagious and potentially deadly disease that has spread to 19 states, the records show.

    A CDC spokesperson told ProPublica in a written statement that the agency decided against releasing the assessment “because it does not say anything that the public doesn’t already know.” She added that the CDC continues to recommend vaccines as “the best way to protect against measles.”

    But what the nation’s top public health agency said next shows a shift in its long-standing messaging about vaccines, a sign that it may be falling in line under Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime critic of vaccines.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1335. Corvinus says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Indeed. Fascinating. Thanks for remembering him most properly.

    Before attending and graduating from Southern Utah, Johnson grew up in Chicago and was a technician with the Navy Seals. He later repaired helicopters aboard the USS Ronald Reagan and was part of naval operations rendering aid in Japan after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

    The company was investigated twice before for safety incidents. Furthermore, the cause of the crash has yet to be determined.

  1336. @Corvinus

    Yet you omitted my reply to Sailer’s admission, reminding everyone to “bookmark” it:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anniversaries-matter-to-palestinians/#comment-6192480

    Note, though, that Corvinus of course replied to me at that time (which I’ll not bother to read).

    You really are struggling to find your place in the unWhimmed tree fort.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  1337. Corvinus says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Yet you omitted my reply to Sailer’s admission, reminding everyone to “bookmark” it:”

    Oh, no, I knew that you, as a vapid, insecure woman, would do me the solid to remind me of the exchange. You would think your grudge toward iSteve would not control you psychologically, but I was wrong. It clearly has been consuming you.

    “You really are struggling to find your place in the unWhimmed tree fort.”

    My comments were not whimmed not like yours, and for good reason. But, yes, the interlopers who used to be corralled by Mr. Sailer are now squatting and shitting like a feral cat everywhere.

  1338. @Corvinus

    It’s gonna be four years of a White Comancho cabinet.

    Just no way around it.

    • Replies: @Curle
  1339. @John Johnson

    “The anti-vaxxers were against the vaccine before it was released and they had conflicting reasons as to why it should be rejected.”

    So what? Different people are allowed to oppose something for different reasons.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1340. @John Johnson

    The anti-vaxxers were against the vaccine before it was released and they had conflicting reasons as to why it should be rejected.

    What do you mean by “rejected”? By whom?

    They along with RFK were adamantly against the COVID vaccine when it was entirely voluntary and promoted by Trump.

    Yes, against taking it ourselves and against HAVING to take it.

    Plenty of us anti-mandatory-vaxxers also thought and think that it has and will harm other people. However, I don’t know anyone who has said that other people should be prohibited from taking it (excluding kids).

    So, what does it matter to ya’? This vaccine made us give up and cry, “Live and let die.”

    What does it matter to ya’?
    When you gotta job to do,
    you got to do it well.
    Gotta give the other fellow helllll…

  1341. @Greta Handel

    Posting this here if for no other reason than to keep track of it: https://thehumanist.com/features/articles/when-artificial-intelligence-meets-emotional-intelligence/

    An article posted in Newslinks by Priss Factor providing an additional, increasingly creepy reason to disconnect from the technological/informational Establishment to the extent practicable.

  1342. @John Johnson

    A single clinic…

    With 53,402 employees…
    And 43,857 (82.1%) vaxxers.

    Are you going to suggest that the flu vaccine doesn’t actually work?

    I am suggesting nothing…

    I am telling you point blank that the so called “flu vaxx” does not prevent infection nor does it prevent the spread of infection. In fact, the risk of infection was significantly higher for the retards who took the poison needle than it was for the people who abstained from the poison needle.

    Summary Among 53,402 working-aged Cleveland Clinic employees, we were unable to find that the influenza vaccine has been effective in preventing infection during the 2024-2025 respiratory viral season.

    In an analysis adjusted for age, sex, clinical nursing job, and employment location, the risk of influenza was significantly higher for the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated state (HR, 1.27; 95% C.I., 1.07 – 1.51; P = 0.007), yielding a calculated vaccine effectiveness of −26.9% (95% C.I., −55.0 to −6.6%).

    But hey. Whatever. Go get boosted. Again. (And again.) (And again.)

    It’s time for the vaxxies to take their medicine. Again.

    Don’t forget to take your medicine because it’s time to take your medicine. Again.

    ☮️

  1343. Curle says:
    @MEH 0910

    And those pictures reflect average American female these days based on my sample size. I’m not sure she deserves the charge of border, but it is awful and annoying and they all deny the accusation.

  1344. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    Well I knew someone that worked in public schools and I can tell you that mandated testing works as it sets a baseline of standards.

    In other words we now know with greater specificity what we always knew, but that doesn’t increase performance but only incentivizes lying at least in my local school district. Adopting practices for burying the results and/or hiding the downward curve of the baseline in schools with growing Black or Mexican student populations is what has happened in my area and no it hasn’t raised standards. Standards are declining or increasing depending on the demographic change in the school district. What is being buried in liberal states is that schools with high percentages of Blacks and Mexicans continue to underperform other ethnic groups. The little trick one school district in my area does is to highlight those ‘minority’ schools where Asians are displacing Blacks and to brag about increasing ‘minority success’. Correspondingly they burying the downward results where Blacks or Mexicans are replacing Whites or Asians.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  1345. AKAHorace says:
    @Mark G.

    Mark,

    the problem with many of those that comment here is that they are more interested in taking others on the thread down a notch than debating or learning about anything. So you end up with long threads to determine if people have spent the last 10 years being arrogant and wrong, or are being paid by the Israeli govt to comment or are only posting here because they are cowardly losers or …..
    Even if you settled any of these questions who would care ?

    Ignore those that are rude and just engage with the polite minority. This can be difficult as the natural instinct is to yell back at those who insult you and overlook those who raise important points quietly.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  1346. Mike Tre says:
    @John Johnson

    “Well I knew someone that worked in public schools and I can tell you that mandated testing works as it sets a baseline of standards. ”

    HAHAHA! Yeah, ok. Guess what Genius, EVERYBODY knows someone who works at a public school. I even have a daughter who is a senior at a public school! So my imagined expertise trumps yours, buddy boy!

    There is more mandated testing now than ever before (and now the public schools charge a fucking fee for some of these tests) and students’ academic performance is worse than it has ever been. Part of this is because instead of hiring men to teach, we now hire 23 year old ditzes to “teach”, and the other part of it is we have more students than ever who are naturally incapable of the coursework.

    DDG, what is the average reading comprehension of a black American HS student?

    DDG AI assist answer: In 2019, only 6% of 12th-grade Black(sic) males were reading at the proficient level, and only 1% were reading at the advanced level. This indicates significant challenges in reading comprehension among high school Black(sic) Americans compared to their peers.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1347. Mike Tre says:
    @AKAHorace

    “the problem with many of those that comment here is that they are more interested in taking others on the thread down a notch than debating or learning about anything. ”

    And there are a great many commenters here that like to stroke their own egos and post with shameless arrogance, so taking them down seems like a justifiable balance.

    I’m not picking on Mark G, who makes some good points, but when he starts bragging (often) about how he is “Saving the US tax payer money” by not retiring from his cozy, make work federal job that he’s had for 50 years is, whether he realizes it or not, a bit insulting and lacking in self awareness, and will prompt others to address it.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @AKAHorace
  1348. Mark G. says:
    @Mike Tre

    “his cozy, make work federal job”

    I do accounting work for the army. Having an accounting system is important to keep taxpayer money from being diverted into improper purposes or to find and fix mistakes being made like the same vendor being accidentally paid twice or not at all. Vendors would be companies like those who provide heat, light, water or building maintenance on army bases. I also am involved in accounting for the army paying for soldier travel expenses and, in the past, reservist pay.

    If someone is an anarchist then me working for the military would be a valid reason for them to say I was doing something wrong by working for it. Most people are not anarchists, though, and understand you need a military for defensive purposes. If you look back over all my comments you can see I have opposed wars of aggression like attacking countries or engaging in proxy wars against countries that have never attacked us like Vietnam, Iraq or Russia. If everyone resigned from the military because we were engaged in such wars then there would be no military at all and we need one so I stay.

    I am currently 68 years old. Most federal workers my age are retired and relaxing at home all day. My friends and family, the people who care about me, think I should retire. By staying, I save the taxpayers money since they do not have to pay for both my pension and the cost of a replacement worker as would happen if I were to leave. My management likes me being there because I am a good worker and am an experienced worker who helps new employees. About a year ago, my boss said I was the only person working under her who never caused any problems for her.

    I stayed out of trouble with the law my whole life, avoided getting any females pregnant and then running off and leaving them with a child to support, tried to vote for politicians who believe in the limited government principles of the Founders, and worked for an organization where I took an oath to help defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.

  1349. @James B. Shearer

    The anti-vaxxers were against the vaccine before it was released and they had conflicting reasons as to why it should be rejected.

    So what? Different people are allowed to oppose something for different reasons.

    It conflicts with their appeals to science.

    They were against the vaccine before any studies were released and then they later took the position that all studies showing its effectiveness should be ignored. They told us that VAERS was all a big pharm conspiracy that can’t be trusted and then they sourced it for myocarditis.

    It’s all very contradictory and shows political motivation first and foremost.

    If I was truly against some Chemical A in our food supply then I would not want to be part of a movement that allows the position that the chemical may not exist or may actually be an engineered bioweapon.

    I would not want such spurious and contradictory messages to undermine a valid concern.

    Such messages would show a political movement based on competing theories and not one that is serious about looking at the evidence.

    Imagine giving a lecture on Chemical A and then your colleague grabs the mic and says it is a bioweapon and then another says that it’s impossible to make such chemicals. You wouldn’t want them on your side if you truly believed that Chemical A was causing harm.

    We still have anti-vaxxers at Unz that deny HIV and COVID can be seen with an electron microscope. They not only reject the vaccine but modern technology.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1350. AKAHorace says:
    @Mike Tre

    And there are a great many commenters here that like to stroke their own egos and post with shameless arrogance, so taking them down seems like a justifiable balance.

    The more the thread becomes about who is stroking their own egos and arrogant the less it is about political or social issues. I also have trouble following the quarrels between posters because I keep forgetting who is who, this is probably the case for most people who read this occasionally. The discussion thread thus becomes about the posters rather than the subject, and drives readers away.

    Steve Sailer is someone who many influential people read, even if they don’t admit it. So an intelligent discussion thread with well written posts might end up changing public opinion.

    I suppose now that he has left it does not matter as much though.

  1351. @Adam Smith

    Ran out today, pretty early, so:

    Thanks
    Agree

  1352. @John Johnson

    “It’s all very contradictory and shows political motivation first and foremost.”

    How much pressure to exert to get people to take vaccines is in fact a political question. There is a saying “politics makes for strange bedfellows” which means people with little in common may agree on some political question. This is normal and expected.

  1353. @Mike Tre

    HAHAHA! Yeah, ok. Guess what Genius, EVERYBODY knows someone who works at a public school.

    That is definitely not the case at Unz. I’ve been lambasted here for marrying a White woman. Some of the leading posters here in fact take the position that White women should not be married.

    We have quite a few Anglin type White nationalists that hate White women and also idealize a mass murderer of Slavs in the Kremlin. Does it make any sense? Of course not. It is really a spite based movement and nothing that has to do with the best interest of White people.

    There is more mandated testing now than ever before (and now the public schools charge a fucking fee for some of these tests) and students’ academic performance is worse than it has ever been.

    Most of my post was sarcasm.

    The state set basic standards and the teachers changed the grades in response.

    I was saying that they changed the grades as in they cheated.

    The politicians of both parties patted themselves on the back.

  1354. @Adam Smith

    I am telling you point blank that the so called “flu vaxx” does not prevent infection nor does it prevent the spread of infection.

    No one has claimed that a flu vaccine can 100% prevent infection. That’s an intellectually dishonest position taken by anti-vaxxers.

    The flu vaccine reduces symptoms which reduces infection rates. If you aren’t coughing as much or have a shorter duration then you are less likely to spread it.

    The flu vaccine keeps people out of the ER:

    New Study Suggests Flu Vaccination Likely to Have a Substantial Public Health Impact, Prevent Millions of Medical Visits
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/whats-new/2023-2024-study-prevent-medical-visits.html

    So your position is that the flu vaccine doesn’t do anything? 10s of thousands of scientists are all lying? Does the MMR vaccine work?

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  1355. @John Johnson

    My position is that the flu vaxx spreads disease and harms people’s natural immunity making them less healthy. Recently vaxxed people should be placed in quarantine for about a month after each jab.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @HA
    , @John Johnson
  1356. HA says:
    @Mark G.

    “Yes, like most working people I get my health insurance through my employer.”

    And there we have it. So next time, stop with the pretense that your so-called “entitlements” are anything other than yet another example of government doling money out to those in the in-crowd.

    “Over forty years ago when I went to work for the army I took an oath to help defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.”

    Did you put your hand on the Bible? Oh wait, you don’t put much stock in that kind of thing as I recall. Weird how despite that oath, you wound up stooging for so many Indian causes, like Ramaswamy, and the journal that published that crackpot sample-of-one “research”. Hey, you wanna guess a country where Ivermectin and a whole lot of generic medicine and other “inexpensive treatments” come from? Come on, you’ll never guess.

    And by the way, how many of these “inexpensive home treatments as an alternative to hospital stays” just happened to involve ouchy-hurty needles? Obviously not the one involving horse paste and not the one with the aquarium cleaner. Hmm, I’ll go ahead and try to guess that one myself and say it’s probably a number pretty close to zero. Am I warm? And if so, can we also stop with the pretense that these home treatments you’re so desperate to find have any other commonality than avoiding needles?

  1357. HA says:
    @Adam Smith

    “In an analysis adjusted for age, sex, clinical nursing job, and employment location, the risk of influenza was significantly higher for the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated.”

    You already tried to scam us with that one, didn’t you? Isn’t this the same as when you tried to get people to believe that kids who took the regular flu shot were three times more likely to be hospitalized than other kids? That one was easy to knock down, too.

    No originality, these anti-vaxxers. They find one scam and just keep repackaging it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1358. HA says:
    @Adam Smith

    “My position is that the flu vaxx spreads disease and harms people’s natural immunity making them less healthy.”

    I have no doubt that getting a small vaccine-sized dose of the full disease makes a person less healthy — after all, vaccine recipients typically spend the next day or two with flu symptoms, albeit mild ones.

    But that’s not the point, is it? The relevant comparison is between that small dose and the FULL-BLOWN WALLOP OF ACTUAL FLU that they’re otherwise likely to catch in the wild. You think that direct hit from the flu makes you healthier? The whole reason for getting the vaccine is that the full-blown case makes a whole lot of people DEAD — is that really not unhealthy enough for you?

    The actual research that directly compares vaccinated and unvaccinated after catching the flu shows that the former are less likely to have serious issues, even if they get a breakthrough case.

    A 2021 study showed that among adults hospitalized with flu, vaccinated patients had a 26% lower risk of intensive care unit (ICU) admission and a 31% lower risk of death from flu compared with those who were unvaccinated. [article contains links to the research studies on which the summary statements are based]

    And that was a pretty bad year, whereas years in which they have better luck at matching the strains in the vaccine (which obviously need to be guessed at in advance of the flu season) to what’s out there come flu season, the reduction is more like 40-60% (op cit.).

    A 2018 study in New Zealand showed that among adults hospitalized with flu, vaccinated patients were 59% less likely to be admitted to the ICU than those who had not been vaccinated. Among adults in the ICU with flu, vaccinated patients spent on average four fewer days in the hospital than those who were not vaccinated.

  1359. @HA

    ‘…You already tried to scam us with that one, didn’t you? Isn’t this the same as when you tried to get people to believe that kids who took the regular flu shot were three times more likely to be hospitalized than other kids? That one was easy to knock down, too…’

    Well, vaccinating kids — and for that matter, just about everything we did with respect to kids — was really pointlessly self-destructive.

    In a rational universe, the teachers could have gotten vaccinated if they felt like it — otherwise, doing nothing would have been a vast improvement.

    • Replies: @HA
  1360. HA says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Well, vaccinating kids — and for that matter, just about everything we did with respect to kids — was really pointlessly self-destructive.”

    Wrong virus. I know the just-a-flu bros have really poor reading skills, but come on — pay attention. The comment was actually referring to the regular flu, i.e. influenza, and the whole point of the study it referenced was to show that for certain kids (e.g., those with asthma or other respiratory or immunocompromised complications) the vaccine was not just “not self-destructive”. On the contrary, it is more correctly regarded as a life-saver. It was those “problem” kids who were disproportionately likely to get the flu vaccine (because their pediatricians insisted on it), and yes, because of their complications, they were still more likely to wind up in the hospital with flu afterwards than kids who didn’t need to bother with a flu shot in the first place. That’s true enough.

    But what lying scumbag anti-vaxxers want to leave out is the fact — as determined from a much larger study — that even though these sicker-than-average vaccinated kids did indeed wind up in the hospital with flu at higher rates than unvaccinated kids as a whole (most of whom had no such complications), they still did that at lower rates than sicker-than-average UNvaccinated kids, and their death rates were lower as well, when those two specific vaccinated/unvaccinated groups were compared.

    I.e. you have to pay attention as to what you’re actually comparing, and it’s wrong and misleading to just compare a bunch of kids with asthma to the population of kids at large who don’t have those kinds of complications. Those stupid enough to fall for that trick wind up similarly believing that COVID vaccines for young males cause more deaths from myocarditis than they prevent. That was also a widespread meme among the just-a-flu bros for a while (and probably still is), for the same reason: because it was immunocompromised and diabetic and asthmatic kids who were disproportionately more likely to line up for the COVID jab.

    But when actual drug trials were carried out, the researchers had to make sure that similar groups were compared when determining vaccine efficacy, and they didn’t find any such COVID-hurts-more-than-helps skew, even among young males.

  1361. @Adam Smith

    My position is that the flu vaxx spreads disease and harms people’s natural immunity making them less healthy. Recently vaxxed people should be placed in quarantine for about a month after each jab.

    So we would then expect the flu to be rare in areas without the vaccine, correct?

    Do you believe the Spanish flu was spread more by flu vaccines or military crowding?

    A Vaccinated Man Has Been Emitting Virulent Polio for 28 Years

    Do you believe the Polio vaccine works?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1362. @John Johnson

    Do you believe the Spanish flu was spread more by flu vaccines or military crowding?

    Malnutrition? I’ve wondered if the Spanish Influenza had a greater impact on Germany than on her opponents — simply because her troops were rather poorly fed by that stage of the war. Ever seen any photos of German prisoners from 1918? Poor little fellers…

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  1363. Curle says:
    @John Johnson

    Ironic you would use a clip from a movie about the downside of dysgenic breeding to criticize the president taking substantive action to reverse the consequences of his predecessor’s dysgenic immigration policies.

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  1364. MEH 0910 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    At this point he is pissed at the virtue-signaling cuck Matt Yglesias, and I don’t blame him one bit for that.

    I thought that Steve had fun with his Will Stancil vs Matthew Yglesias post last week, which unfortunately came out just as commenter Hail, who had been doing a good job posting Steve’s Substack material here at Unz Review, happened to take one of his usual commenting pauses:

    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/stancil-yglesias-is-a-scientific

    Stancil: Yglesias is a scientific racist!
    And Nikole Hannah-Jones, author of the “1619” grift, is so exhausted by white men like Yglesias mentioning that blacks are over-represented in the NBA.
    Steve Sailer
    Apr 16, 2025

    Meanwhile, over at BlueSky: Will Stancil is accusing NBA fan Matthew Yglesias of being a Richard Hanania-style scientific racist. You see, Yglesias not only believes that blacks tend to be better than average basketball players, but Yglesias also is aware of the fact that Balkans tend to be long on basketball talent as well!

    Case closed!

    Guilty as charged.

    Anyway, I myself thought that Steve’s Substack post was fun, as I find anything involving Will Stancil to be hilarious.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  1365. @Curle

    Ironic you would use a clip from a movie about the downside of dysgenic breeding to criticize the president taking substantive action to reverse the consequences of his predecessor’s dysgenic immigration policies.

    I was making fun of Trump’s cabinet choices like a liberal lawyer and a Fox TV host. Not that far from the staff of idiocrasy.

    Let me know when Trump builds the big beautiful wall that he promised us in his first term.

    We have an additional 100k+ Haitians because Trump left the Rio open.

    I don’t support open borders and I also don’t support vaccine policy from a liberal lawyer who didn’t know when flu vaccines were developed. He blamed flu vaccines for a pandemic even though they hadn’t been invented. That’s on record.

  1366. @Curle

    Correspondingly they burying the downward results where Blacks or Mexicans are replacing Whites or Asians.

    The whole system of public education is organized around raising black and hispanic scores to average, and nothing is working, not even cheating. On the surface, helping children is a good thing, but it’s devolved into something as hideous, expensive, and destructive as affirmative action. How much is enough?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1367. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    It might well have done – being run-down and malnourished generally gives you less chance of fighting off a disease. Having said that, the Spanish Flu had oddities – it seems to have been more fatal to the young, especially those around 20 or so, the males of this age group being the fighting soldiers in many cases. Whereas the Kaiser, in his late 50s, survived the disease, and Franz Kafka, in his mid-thirties and already suffering from TB, survived the Flu though it is possible it permanently weakened him and contributed to his death five or six years later.

  1368. @Wielgus

    ‘…Franz Kafka, in his mid-thirties and already suffering from TB, survived the Flu though it is possible it permanently weakened him and contributed to his death five or six years later.’

    It did succeed in nailing some other Austrian artists. Both Klimt and Schiele died of it.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1369. @OilcanFloyd

    ‘…The whole system of public education is organized around raising black and hispanic scores to average, and nothing is working, not even cheating. ‘

    Now that I object to. You won’t catch me arguing for unrealized black potential, but the whole Garfield High/Jaime Escalante episode demonstrates that it is perfectly possible to improve Hispanic academic performance.

    You could even argue that the episode also demonstrates that there is an entrenched educational bureaucracy dedicated to continued failure. Here, an observation I made during my teaching days is relevant. Teaching low level, remedial classes is a lot less work than teaching algebra et al. It’s a pain in the ass coming up with lessons that will clearly communicate relatively complex arithmetical concepts — and if everyone does all their homework, you’ve got to look at it all.

    And if you’re an English teacher… Which would you rather do? Check off the fifteen word search puzzles that got done — or read through thirty awkwardly written, really rather unoriginal essays running to ten pages each?

    Teaching can be an extremely easy job. In by eight, out at three, nothing to take home…

    But that assumes something about how much will be taught to the students.

  1370. @Colin Wright

    “…and if everyone does all their homework, you’ve got to look at it all.”

    I believe lots of teachers don’t.

    And I was wondering, were the algebra classes you taught elective?

  1371. @Jack D

    ‘I don’t think that that’s the problem with the system. The problem is the “college for all” paradigm. College should really be reserved for a relatively small % of the population that can actually benefit from it. Anyone with SATs below say 500 on either section (this would be around 1/2 of all SAT takers and 2/3 of the blacks who take the SAT) is not really college material and should be channeled into a different form of vocational education.’

    There’s also the point that at to some extent, what we call ‘college’ now used to be known as ‘high school.’

    Consider this bit from Hemingway’s Wikipedia page:

    ‘…Hemingway went to Oak Park and River Forest High School in Oak Park between 1913 and 1917, where he competed in boxing, track and field, water polo, and football. He performed in the school orchestra for two years with his sister Marcelline, and received good grades in English classes.[6] During his last two years at high school he edited the school’s newspaper and yearbook (the Trapeze and Tabula); he imitated the language of popular sportswriters and contributed under the pen name Ring Lardner Jr.—a nod to Ring Lardner of the Chicago Tribune whose byline was “Line O’Type”.[9] A remembrance garden in honor of Hemingway was erected in front of the high school in 1996.[10]

    After leaving high school, he went to work for The Kansas City Star as a cub reporter…’

    Word for word, you could replace ‘high school’ with ‘college’ in that passage and get the bio of most literary luminaries of the post- World War Two era. It used to be that if you graduated from high school, you had about the education you’d today expect a B.A. from your average state university to have.

  1372. @James B. Shearer

    ‘I believe lots of teachers don’t.

    And I was wondering, were the algebra classes you taught elective?’

    My impression is that it was more or less elective. Kids would be put into algebra if it seemed appropriate. If they objected, they would be reassigned. My usual course load was one geometry class, two algebra classes, and two of whatever-they-were-calling-basic-math-that-year.

    One of many reasons I left teaching is that that was about to change. The district superintendent had handed down an edict that allninth graders were to take algebra.

    Well, a lot of them just weren’t remotely ready for any such thing. If you don’t even have a solid grasp of arithmetic with at least whole numbers, you’re not going to be able to pass any algebra class worthy of the name. I had a few students like that as it was. ‘F-S-S.’ Work habits satisfactory. Behavior satisfactory. Fail.

    What’s the point of that? Who does it benefit?

  1373. @James B. Shearer

    I believe lots of teachers don’t.

    I had better things to do than grade homework myself: as it was, I was putting in 50-60 hours a week. My system with grading homework was something like the following.

    If it was an obvious joke, 0 points.

    If apparently intended in all seriousness, I’d check three answers.

    Zero or one right: one point.

    Two or three right: two points.

    What English teachers did I don’t know.

  1374. @Wielgus

    “… Having said that, the Spanish Flu had oddities – it seems to have been more fatal to the young …”

    There is a theory that older people had some immunity from earlier exposure to a similar virus. According to wikipedia:

    “… In 1918, older adults may have had partial protection caused by exposure to the 1889–1890 flu pandemic …”

    • Replies: @res
    , @HA
  1375. Now that I object to. You won’t catch me arguing for unrealized black potential, but the whole Garfield High/Jaime Escalante episode demonstrates that it is perfectly possible to improve Hispanic academic performance.

    My point wasn’t that hispanics don’t have more upside than blacks, or that hispanics can’t improve. My point is that the system places heavy emphasis on uplifting and promoting blacks and hispanics at the expense of everyone else, and that doing so is as destructive, wasteful, and purposely harmful as affirmative action. That much is obvious from my experience.

    You could even argue that the episode also demonstrates that there is an entrenched educational bureaucracy dedicated to continued failure

    I agree, and I don’t think you even have to argue about it. Raising standards clearly goes against the dumbing down of everything that is essential to making the system run as it’s supposed to run.

    Teaching low level, remedial classes is a lot less work than teaching algebra et al.

    Try special education where almost everyone qualifies these days.

    Whatever hispanics are capable of, I’ve never seen a neighborhood or school where they have taken over from anyone but blacks improve. Not even close. And they don’t belong either.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1376. @MEH 0910

    I thought that Steve had fun with his Will Stancil vs Matthew Yglesias post last week, which unfortunately came out just as commenter Hail,…

    Indeed, he seemed to. I cannot read through too many tweets without getting sick of that whole stupid form of communication. I did like the comment from AnotherDad (who I’ve just strongly disagreed with elsewhere) in which he compared this Yglesias piece of work to this Stancil piece of work. AD says that Yglesias is smart but very disingenuous, while Stancil is just a clueless dumb fuck.

    The battle between them, from my reading of the SS post, is about who is the most virtuous in his lying about HBD and who is lying in a too unseemly manner. Steve Sailer pushes the UT – the Unseemly Truth – still a big no-no among this waste-of-life twitter group.

    … who had been doing a good job posting Steve’s Substack material here at Unz Review, happened to take one of his usual commenting pauses:

    I admire Mr. Hail’s discipline in being able to take these 1-2 week breaks off the internet. I am not so strong.

    Have a good day, MEH.

  1377. Mark G. says:
    @Colin Wright

    We got off the topic of vaccines onto the interesting side topic of the Spanish flu but there is an important aspect of vaccines which I have not seen made clear sometimes when discussing them. The alternatives presented are getting the vaccine and not getting the disease and not getting the vaccine and getting the disease. There is a third possibility, though: not getting the vaccine and not getting the disease. By making that choice you can avoid any negative effects of both the disease and the vaccine.

    We know now that the Covid vaccine itself does not cause large numbers of deaths but we did not know that at the time it came out since it was rushed through the approval process and there were no long term studies of its possible negative effects. People were doing a risk-benefit analysis based on their estimate of them getting Covid, the unknown long term effects of the vaccines and the unknown long term effects of getting the disease. This risk-benefit analysis by individuals was interfered with by the government, which may have pushed mass mandatory vaccinations at least partly to increase big pharma profits. After all, big pharma does donate money to politicians and are not doing so for purely altruistic reasons.

  1378. res says:
    @James B. Shearer

    Thanks. Imagine what the 1918 death toll would have been without that earlier exposure for most older than 29 (!).
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22148/

    ”1 In the “registration area” of the United States—those states and cities that kept reliable statistics—the single greatest number of deaths occurred in the cohort aged 25 to 29, the second greatest in those aged 30 to 34, and the third in those aged 20 to 24. More people died in each one of those 5-year groups than the total deaths among all those over age 60, and the combined deaths of those aged 20 to 34 more than doubled the deaths of all those over 50 (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1921).

    More on 1889.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

    The 1889–1890 pandemic, often referred to as the “Asiatic flu”[1] or “Russian flu”, was a worldwide respiratory viral pandemic. It was the last great pandemic of the 19th century, and is among the deadliest pandemics in history.[2][3] The pandemic killed about 1 million people out of a world population of about 1.5 billion (0.067% of population).[4][5]

  1379. @OilcanFloyd

    My point is that the system places heavy emphasis on uplifting and promoting blacks and hispanics at the expense of everyone else, and that doing so is as destructive, wasteful, and purposely harmful as affirmative action.

    Tell me about it. When I got a position as a regular teacher, forty years ago, I had a fresh-off-the-boat Asian girl in Algebra 1, Duong Thoung (or thereabouts.) She was lost, and I graded like Genghis Khan on a bad day, especially my first year, but she battled through to a D+.

    The next year, she had me for Geometry, and got a C.

    Now, had she been black, or Hispanic, she would have been on the affirmative action gravy train. UCLA here I come! And while I don’t think she was going to be womanhood’s answer to Albert Einstein, she would have been bright enough to take advantage.

    And isn’t this the profile of whom affirmative action was supposedly going to help? The disadvantaged with potential?

    But she was Asian. No magic escalator for her!

    Try special education where almost everyone qualifies these days.

    I subbed special ed once or twice back in the day. Small classes and competent TA’s, so it always worked out, but…

    It could be unnerving. You see, my usual M.O. as a disciplinarian was sort of calm and rational. ‘Look, if you don’t stop doing x, I’ll do y, and if I do y, your day will get worse. So how about if you stop doing x?’

    That usually worked — but it assumed my interlocutor was rational and capable of controlling his behavior. Sometimes you’d look into the eyes of one of those special ed kids and realize that in his case, such assumptions were unfounded.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  1380. @Mark G.

    ‘The alternatives presented are getting the vaccine and not getting the disease and not getting the vaccine and getting the disease. There is a third possibility, though: not getting the vaccine and not getting the disease.’

    In the case of the Corona Virus, the vaccine didn’t prevent you from catching the virus — it merely purported to ameliorate the symptoms.

    Since nothing I saw made me think the Corona Virus would be markedly worse than the usual flus, and I’ve always weathered those easily enough, and I was hearing a few too many horror stories about the side-effects of the vaccine, for me it was a no-brainer. Skip the vaccine and see what happens.

    And in point of fact, I had some lingering but very mild cold-type thing, and my wife did test positive for the dread Covid (without any clear symptoms), and they declined to test me on the grounds that if she was positive, I almost certainly would be as well, so…

    I guess I had it. Five people around here had it that I know of, including two seventy-somethings, both in decidedly poor health. Only one of the five had an actual, clear symptom: a temporary loss of any sense of taste.

    I remain unimpressed. After all, in our brave new world, you can’t believe a damned thing you’re told. You have to go by what you see — and the above is what I saw.

    Oh, there was that and a whole lot of irritating, useless, and socially destructive restrictions. I mean, fuck me. They materially and tangibly made my life worse for about two years there — and as far as I can see, accomplished nothing. Just about everyone who was going to die of the Corona Virus probably did so regardless.

  1381. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “There is a theory that older people had some immunity from earlier exposure to a similar virus. “

    That has been cited for numerous epidemics. Exposure to Spanish flu is itself hypothesized as one reason why the 2009 swine flu epidemic also did not disproportionately affect older adults

    A significant proportion of elderly individuals carried pre-existing immunity (due to cross-reactive anti-HA antibodies) to the influenza strain that was responsible for the 2009 pandemic… This may be due to the similarities between the 2009 H1N1 virus and the 1918 Spanish Flu virus, as viral descendants of the 1918 Spanish Flu virus continued to circulate until the 1957 pandemic (Skountzou et al., 2010, Xu et al., 2010). The suggestion that immunity was due to previous infections that occurred decades earlier implies that this form of cross-immunity is likely to be lifelong (Yu et al., 2008). The consequences of pre-existing immunity can be seen in the age distribution of infected individuals in Japan in the 2009 pandemic, where only a small proportion of the individuals who sought medical attention were elderly…

    Anti-HA antibodies…yeah, right. As if. Good luck with that. But from what I could tell, this wasn’t some sample-of-one crackpot article like the ones the local COVID experts seem to favor, so it may actually be legit.

  1382. @Mark G.

    “The alternatives presented are getting the vaccine and not getting the disease and not getting the vaccine and getting the disease. There is a third possibility, though: not getting the vaccine and not getting the disease.”

    There are four alternatives:

    Take the vaccine and not get the disease.
    Take the vaccine and get the disease.
    Not take the vaccine and not get the disease.
    Not take the vaccine and get the disease.

    With leaky vaccines like COVID and flu, there is a substantial probability of taking the vaccine and getting sick anyway. When you combine that with the side effects of the vaccines, I say a big no thanks, I am not taking that shit. I have not regretted it since then. They can take their vaccine mandates and shove them up their asses.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
    , @John Johnson
  1383. HA says:
    @deep anonymous

    “With leaky vaccines like COVID and flu, there is a substantial probability of taking the vaccine and getting sick anyway.”

    And a substantial probability that your breakthrough case of COVID will be significantly milder than what you would experience by catching COVID with no protection. Same as mentioned above in the case of regular flu. Same with plenty of other kinds of protection — you can still get a broken rib from a bullet even if you’re wearing a Kevlar vest; you’re just significantly less likely to die.

    Of course, all this has to be adjusted for age and health of the individual. A vaccinated 90-year-old is still more likely to be felled by COVID than an unvaccinated 30-year-old. That being said, if, like the rest of the COVID truthers around here, you melt with sniveling cowardice at the very thought of a needle, you’re likely not as tough as you want to pretend you are, and therefore are in more need of protection than you’re willing to admit.

    But alas, they’ll probably need to find a vaccine for stupidity in order for COVID truthers to come to terms with all that, which means they’re out of luck.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1384. @HA

    “…That being said, if, like the rest of the COVID truthers around here, you melt with sniveling cowardice at the very thought of a needle, you’re likely not as tough as you want to pretend you are, and therefore are in more need of protection than you’re willing to admit.”

    So you don’t think there are many (if any) anti-vaxxers with tattoos?

    • Replies: @HA
  1385. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    “So you don’t think there are many (if any) anti-vaxxers with tattoos?”

    You mean in addition to being pathetic drama queens, some of them might also be also pathetic size queens? Color me shocked.

    Tattoo needles are very different from hypodermic needles. You can find diagrams and videos of both on the internet that show the differences. It’s very possible to have a fear of “regular” needles, but be very cool with the needle(s) of a tattoo machine. Tattoo needles go very shallow and don’t penetrate very deep.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1386. “You mean in addition to being pathetic drama queens, some of them might also be also pathetic size queens?”

    Just this once, and against my better judgment, I am wasting my time and responding to one of the all-time worst trolls on this board. You, HAsbara, may be the biggest drama queen on this board when you are not competing with Corvanus. No doubt you will segue into yet another hysterical “Putin troll” diatribe after you tire of this completely idiotic notion that “anti-vaxxers” are afraid of needles. As if the real issue were not the dangerous, toxic materials being injected through those needles. Your “fear of needles” taunt qualifies as the stupidest assertion I have ever seen on this board. And you have some stiff competition.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
  1387. @Colin Wright

    I subbed special ed once or twice back in the day. Small classes and competent TA’s, so it always worked out, but…

    I taught special education because that is all that I could get in the small town where I lived, but the model you experienced has pretty much given way to co-teaching and inclusion. Class sizes are usually 30 kids per room with up to half being special education cases. And sped cases aren’t what they used to be, since just about everybody qualifies that tries. My experience is that 10 to 15 percent of students in a school qualify because money is involved, and most are just behavior problems jammed in under dubious qualifications. I was fascinated with my truly autistic kids and the few smart kids with actual learning disorders, but most of the kids that I taught were just dumb, ill-behaving, and impulsive.

    Many sped kids move frequently, so I saw kids and paperwork from all over, and the problems are nationwide. The worst kids I got were transplants from California. The kids were way behind, and the paperwork was ridiculous. We had to start from scratch in both cases, since nothing made sense.

    I grew up near a Lockheed plant in Georgia, and we had lots of kids coming and going between California and Georgia schools. It was obvious at the time that California schools were better. I don’t think that’s the case now.

  1388. HA says:
    @deep anonymous

    “You, HAsbara, may be the biggest drama queen on this board…”

    No, you’re apparently confusing me with the genuine drama queens who have had a multi-year meltdown over their fear of a COVID needle that any number of geriatrics and asthmatic children have managed to endure as part of their annual healthcare regimen. Evidently, you still can’t get over that, so the clock is still ticking.

    Now THAT is some drama-queen-sized fragility. That, I submit, explains your flustered rage at anyone who sees you for they pathetic crybabies you are, and dares to call you out on it.

    “As if the real issue were not the dangerous, toxic materials being injected through those needles. “

    As the previous commenter noted, any number of you brave and virtuous “rebels” with your sleeve tattoos and goatees and your beer guts have no problem injecting any number of chemicals into your skin and lymph nodes, which explains the tattoos. You also claimed to be immune to the far more dangerous and toxic viruses floating in the wild and working their way into your bloodstream, even though they wound up killing many more than the vaccine did . An alarming number of you kept spouting that line right up to the point where someone sane in your vicinity noticed you were turning blue and sent you, like your fellow COVID expert Markie G, into the ER and hospital system and (at least for those of you whose medical care isn’t lavishly compensated by Uncle Sam, as Markie was eventually forced to backhandedly admit) the GoFundMe charity medical circuit. So impressive!

    You know the more I think about it, the more I realize that earlier quote about tattoo needles is also the perfect catchphrase of the COVID truther movement, whether or not they tried to hide their terror of needles with some superficial ink. The crack about how “It’s very shallow and doesn’t penetrate very deep.” Yeah, I’ll bet the typical COVIDiot has heard that phrase time and again since adolescence — not just with respect to the quality of their arguments, but in other settings, too, if. you get my drift — and at some point they internalized it and it has become a way of life for them in one way or another. It explains the shallowness of their COVID crackpottery, and it also explains their views on women, and probably any number of situations in which they’ve had to endure the “doesn’t penetrate very deep” putdown. What a burn.

    Is that what’s really causing all this, little guy? The fact that this goes way beyond the COVID thing? Sorry, it still doesn’t make the bedwetting over needles any less accurate.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @John Johnson
  1389. Mark G. says:
    @HA

    “into the ER and hospital system”

    I was sent into that before I got Covid. Someone caused me to be in an accident. Fortunately, a woman saw me staggering down the side of the road covered with blood and got me into her car and to the ER. After treating me, I was transported back home because I was unable to drive in order to recover at home, caught Covid while I was trying to recover my health and went back in the hospital.

    I had gone over a year without Covid before my accident. While in the hospital with Covid, my nurse told me I was one of the few Covid patients there. She said everyone in a high risk category, mostly old people in poor health, had already caught the disease and been hospitalized.

    Therefore I was a untypical Covid case: a normally healthy person who had a serious accident and then got Covid. Most people, when doing a risk-benefit analysis on whether to get an inadequately tested vaccine, would not factor in highly unlikely occurences like someone else being negligent and seriously injuring them. Many people were not allowed to do their own risk-benefit analysis during the epidemic on whether to get an inadequately tested vaccine, since the vaccines were often mandated to help boost big pharma profits. Working for the army, I even had to get the vaccine a few months after I had already had Covid and had natural immunity from that, with the alternative being losing my job.

    • Replies: @HA
  1390. HA says:
    @Mark G.

    “I had gone over a year without Covid before my accident.”

    Wow, you’re telling me those lockdowns we had in place in the year before vaccines became available DID work after all? Is there anything at all the COVID truthers managed to get right? I guess not.

    “Many people were not allowed to do their own risk-benefit analysis…”

    You mean, given all the boneheaded choices the I’m-too-special-to-be-jabbed crowd had already made, you’re puzzled why those in charge of allocating hospitals and ER’s and ambulances and other scarce medical resources decided that they already had enough problems to deal with? Another shocker.

    And remind us again, how much of this supposed “risk-benefit analysis” applied to all these allegedly “inexpensive home treatments as an alternative to hospital stays” involved jabs with a needle? I guessed zero — is that about right? “Deep anonymous” (who I’ve already sussed out is anything but deep) wants us to believe that you lot were wetting your panties over the “dangerous and toxic materials” in those vaccine needles, but we all know that’s a lie. Because when it came to horse paste dewormers and aquarium cleaners, you had no problem ingesting any of that. You couldn’t get enough of it. The operative word, however, is ingesting. We all know if Ivermectin (or whatever other Indian-based “solution” or sample-size-of-one “research” you always seem to wind up boosting) required a syringe and a needle and injecting for optimum effect, you would have never come near it.

    When you’re mature enough to admit your mistakes and stop pretending they were ever based on risk-benefit analysis — as opposed to being yet another rhetorical Rube Goldberg machine whose sole objective was to allow you to tuck your tail between your legs and dodge that needle — maybe then people will take you more seriously. Until then, you’d better hope Elon and the efficiency Gestapo allows the continued existence of the insurance system our government runs for employees like you \ that keeps generously picking up the tab for the stupid medical decisions that put you into the hospital in the first place, even though that COVID needle was free by then, and if not at-home, then probably within walking distance, and yet, and even so, you decided to pass on it. So much for your risk-benefit analysis.

    • LOL: deep anonymous
    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1391. Mark G. says:
    @HA

    “Wow, you’re telling me those lockdowns we had in place in the year before vaccines became available did work after all?”

    No, as I just said there were large numbers of Covid patients in the hospital I stayed at earlier on in the epidemic. The lockdowns did not keep them out of the hospital. Therefore, the lockdowns did not keep me out of the hospital. What kept me out of the hospital was following good health habits. It was only later on after the negligence of someone else caused me to suffer a serious injury that impaired my health that I caught Covid. By the time I was in the hospital, there were few Covid patients there.

    It is because of feeble and ineffective arguments like yours that the majority of voters stopped listening to you and the other big pharma shills. RFK Jr. is heading up HHS and will attempt to implement reforms. There is a general understanding that because of what is known as “regulatory capture” the big federal health agencies have come under the control of big pharma and have been promoting policies designed to maximize big pharma profits rather than improve the health of the American people.

    • Replies: @HA
  1392. HA says:
    @Mark G.

    “No, as I just said there were large numbers of Covid patients in the hospital I stayed at earlier on in the epidemic. The lockdowns did not keep them out of the hospital.”

    No one said they were foolproof, especially given the sheer number of fools out there who decided they were too cool for those, too. But the truthers kept yammering on an on how we lost more people to COVID in the second year than we did in the first. That being the case, it’s way too convenient to blame the vaccines for not working when, as it turns out, the COVID deaths were disproportionately occurring among boneheads like you who were too scared of needles to take them in the first place, but no one said the truthers weren’t mendacious weasels trying to have it both ways.

    “There is a general understanding that because of what is known as ‘regulatory capture’”

    General understanding? As in cherry-picked chatter gathered from the truther echo chambers? As in unsubstantiated conspiracy theories cobbled out of sample-size-of-one scam research? I know you people way better than you think.

    And I’m not claiming my fear-of-ouchy-needles explanation covers every single truther out there. People are complicated, and exceptions can always be found. But given how lame the counter-arguments of the how-dare-you-call-me-out-on-my-bedwetting-fear-of-needles crowd are proving to be — like the one on tattoos, or your inability to come up with a single one of these supposedly superior treatments that didn’t coincidentally and oh-so-conveniently also allow you to avoid getting jabbed — I’d say the hypothesis works a whole lot better than some crackpot sample-size-of-one “research” published in some Indian journal of “innovation”. And as I’ve repeatedly observed, you and a fair sampling of other truthers clearly have no problem giving that a thumbs up. Anyone who doubts me can click on that link.

    That means it’s a little late in the game to be crying hot tears of rage about the quality of my analysis. You’re already shedding more than enough tears over those ouchy-hurty needles — you should just stick with that.

    • Troll: deep anonymous
  1393. @Colin Wright

    Teaching low level, remedial classes is a lot less work than teaching algebra et al. It’s a pain in the ass coming up with lessons that will clearly communicate relatively complex arithmetical concepts — and if everyone does all their homework, you’ve got to look at it all.

    Teaching can be an extremely easy job. In by eight, out at three, nothing to take home…

    I’ve known a few teachers and never heard of someone getting out with the kids.

    My friend taught 3rd/4th grade math and hated it. He wasn’t allowed to just grade papers and call it a day. The state was on their backs and he had to keep changing his lessons. It was a constant juggling act of how to keep most of the kids moving forward. Do you repeat the lesson that most kids really didn’t get or go to the next one? What about the ESL kids? Which ones need extra attention? Should he try to use more Spanish in the next lesson or work with the aid?

    Definitely not a case where he could just pass/fail a bunch of worksheets. That would bring the wrath of the admins who only hired him because it was rural and they couldn’t find any diversity hires.

  1394. @deep anonymous

    With leaky vaccines like COVID and flu, there is a substantial probability of taking the vaccine and getting sick anyway.

    What is a leaky vaccine?

    I searched two different biology dictionaries and no such term was found.

    Maybe you could explain that for us.

    • Replies: @res
  1395. @HA

    The text you quoted came from a reddit thread titled “I want a tattoo but I have a fear of needles…any advice?” which makes it clear that many people who are afraid of needles are reluctant to get tattoos for that reason.

    From a tattoo provider :

    “Anyone who has ever had an injection understands that getting needles inserted into the skin is not pleasant. Tattoo needles are smaller than syringes, but when you get a tattoo between 1 and 20 of these needles are inserted into the top layer of your skin thousands of times. …”

    • Replies: @HA
    , @EdwardM
  1396. res says:
    @John Johnson

    Maybe you could explain that for us.

    Google, etc. are your friends. Here is how one academic paper defines “leaky vaccine.”
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7058279

    Vaccines vary in their protective properties [1,2], and although some completely block infection, others only prevent disease symptoms but not infection or onward transmission. The latter are termed ‘leaky’ or ‘imperfect’ vaccines.

    Here is a historical review of the term.
    Thirty-five years of leaky vaccines
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/194/4/918/7808376

    Over the past 35 years, the term “leaky vaccine” has gained widespread use in both mathematical modeling and epidemiologic methods for evaluating vaccine efficacy and effectiveness. It generally means a multiplicative reduction in the probability of being infected if exposed.

    My understanding is that “prevent disease symptoms” may be either complete or partial. The key characteristic of “leaky vaccines” is that they permit some level of infection and transmission.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @John Johnson
  1397. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer

    I didn’t claim that tattoo needles were “pleasant”. Only that they’re superficial. As thin and fragile and “special” are those skins of the COVIDiots (which is presumably why they’re so terrified in the first place), the tattoo artist doesn’t go beyond it, and to the extent it’s extra thin, I suspect he adjusts his technique accordingly.

    Here’s another sampling:

    Ive passed out from an IV before. Currently getting a sleeve done. Different pain but does not make me want to pass out.

    It’s definitely a different kind of pain,

    I just got my tattoo and it’s pretty painful lol but you get used to it,

    My experience with the pain was that it hurt… But it wasn’t an ever-increasing pain like you experience with an injury or a deep-puncturing medical needle.

    I have 11 tats & the needles never bothered me but having my blood drawn sends me reeling.

    Personally, I think the wiping is the hardest part most of the time. (They have to wipe the ink and blood away as they work.)

    I already stipulated that there are always going to be exceptions to any model, and the same goes for the fear-of-needles hypothesis. I’m also not saying the typical COVID truther’s bedwetting fear of needles is based on anything rational or concrete, or that it is something that one can reason with. Of course not. Barring the occasional exception, it’s inherently stupid and infantile and irrational and it resides solely in their feeble little minds. Anyone arguing otherwise has not been paying attention.

  1398. EdwardM says:
    @James B. Shearer

    Speaking of tattoos, the hot thing seems to be tattoo parlors on cruise ships. I have been on a couple cruises, and naturally every once in awhile the ship hits turbulence and knocks passengers around. That’s part of the fun.

    I am of the opinion that only a moron would get tattoo anyway*, but doing it on a ship seems to multiply the stupidity.

    *I can make somewhat of an exception for people in the military who do it for pride and comradery, but, still…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @HA
  1399. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    John Johnson: Maybe you could explain that for us.

    Google, etc. are your friends. Here is how one academic paper defines “leaky vaccine.”
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7058279

    Vaccines vary in their protective properties [1,2], and although some completely block infection, others only prevent disease symptoms but not infection or onward transmission. The latter are termed ‘leaky’ or ‘imperfect’ vaccines.

    Here is a historical review of the term.
    Thirty-five years of leaky vaccines
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/194/4/918/7808376

    Exhibit 550 that John “Conventional Wisdom” Johnson is both lazy and stupid.

  1400. @res

    My understanding is that “prevent disease symptoms” may be either complete or partial. The key characteristic of “leaky vaccines” is that they permit some level of infection and transmission.

    Most vaccines do not completely prevent transmission.

    The original vaccine for smallpox did not prevent transmission. It makes you far less likely to die from smallpox.

    The “leaky vaccine” in relation to COVID is an anti-vaxx argument that implies the vaccine doesn’t work.

    It’s a misunderstanding of vaccines and the different type of viruses that they target.

    Anyone that was expecting the COVID vaccine to be a “one and done” was misinformed. It was a coronavirus like the flu and was expected to mutate. There may have been mixed messages from the government but that doesn’t validate ignorance on the part of the anti-vaxx crowd.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  1401. @HA

    As the previous commenter noted, any number of you brave and virtuous “rebels” with your sleeve tattoos and goatees and your beer guts have no problem injecting any number of chemicals into your skin and lymph nodes, which explains the tattoos.

    The anti-vaxx crowd would have had more credibility if they argued that only high-risk groups should get the vaccine.

    It was the >75 unvaccinated crowd that was clogging up hospitals.

    One of our local hospitals stopped taking patients due to a lack of beds while anti-vaxxers were telling us that it was all an MSM conspiracy. They would point to an open hospital and claim that there aren’t any problems. Well an open hospital in one area isn’t evidence that none of them are having bed shortages.

    Rural hospitals especially have limits and simply aren’t designed to handle a pandemic. They can actually overload from the flu. A hospital in a very pro-Trump county in Idaho had to close its doors over COVID and the director was getting death threats from anti-vaxxers who were certain that she was lying.

    • Replies: @HA
    , @res
  1402. @EdwardM

    I am of the opinion that only a moron would get tattoo anyway*, but doing it on a ship seems to multiply the stupidity.

    Why is it such a big deal?

    I get not wanting tattoos in certain places for jobs but I don’t get the anti-tattoo attitude that seems to be prevalent here.

    Do you get bothered by seeing a barista with tattoos? It’s practically all of them now.

  1403. HA says:
    @John Johnson

    “The anti-vaxx crowd would have had more credibility if they argued that only high-risk groups should get the vaccine.”

    I agree, but as we’ve just witnessed, their irrationality now allows them to have it both ways, in typical MAGA 4d-chess fashion. If the lockdowns didn’t work, or were themselves “leaky”, let’s forget that it was precisely the tantrum-throwing crybabies too cool to wear masks who disproportionately made them leak. And if even more people died during the second year, in which vaccines were available, let’s also conveniently forget that those dying (or winding up in the hospital like our resident COVID expert Markie G) were disproportionately too stupid to have bothered getting a shot. Brilliant!

  1404. HA says:
    @EdwardM

    “I am of the opinion that only a moron would get tattoo anyway…”

    I agree that the preferences of tattoo wearers — who ipso facto are disproportionately unlikely to be useful guideposts when it comes to making wise and rational life choices — are unlikely to amount to anything.

    That being said, the COVID truthers are not known for their rational life choices either, so there’s that.

  1405. I agree that the preferences of tattoo wearers — who ipso facto are disproportionately unlikely to be useful guideposts when it comes to making wise and rational life choices — are unlikely to amount to anything.

    When was the last time you went on vacation?

    I was at a resort not long ago and half the women under 30 had a tattoo. The girl ankle tattoo has become pretty standard.

    This was a 95% White resort and the rooms started at $200 a night.

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    , @Achmed E. Newman
  1406. HA says:
    @John Johnson

    “I was at a resort not long ago and HALF the women under 30 had a tattoo.”

    “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize HALF of them are stupider than that.”

    –George Carlin

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  1407. @John Johnson

    “…There may have been mixed messages from the government but that doesn’t validate ignorance on the part of the anti-vaxx crowd.”

    There were plenty of ignorant people on the pro-vax side as well. Like for example having too much faith in vaccine effectiveness leading them to argue that essentially all the people dying from COVID at one point were unvaccinated when in fact many were vaccinated. Some fairly obvious wishful thinking was involved (that is I am vaccinated so now I have nothing to worry about).

  1408. res says:
    @John Johnson

    The anti-vaxx crowd would have had more credibility if they argued that only high-risk groups should get the vaccine.

    You mean something like this?
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-dim-age/#comment-6475785

    You might consider the possibility that one can appreciate the benefit of the vaccine for high risk individuals (and others who believe the cost/benefit tradeoff is favorable for themselves) while opposing mandates.

  1409. I keep looking in when we’re told there’s a fresh batch of new comments, but ISteve Open Thread 3 has become HA’s and John Johnson’s memorial echo chamber to Sailer’s pro-vaxx nonsense.

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  1410. HA says:

    “has become HA’s and John Johnson’s memorial echo chamber to Sailer’s pro-vaxx nonsense.”

    According to my ctrl-F feature, by the time I first mentioned COVID in this thread (more than a thousand comments in), it had already been previously mentioned about 44 times. FORTY-FOUR TIMES.

    And if the COVIDiots know that two people will be enough to show you up as the pathetic morons you are, try finding some other topic to obsess about, preferably something you didn’t bungle as badly as COVID. (And while you’re at it, if you don’t like being made to look like asses, stop passing around and slapping “thanks” on sample-size-of-one COVID “research” published in some Indian scam journal — because I don’t plan to stop making fun of that any time soon. So why must you insist on making that easier for me?)

  1411. @HA

    A snarky quote but I simply don’t think it is logical to believe that you can still make assumptions about tattoos.

    It’s probably similar to two piece swimsuits. I’m sure there was a time when only sluts wore them.

    Face tattoos however are still a warning.

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  1412. @Greta Handel

    I keep looking in when we’re told there’s a fresh batch of new comments, but ISteve Open Thread 3 has become HA’s and John Johnson’s memorial echo chamber to Sailer’s pro-vaxx nonsense.

    Oh gosh two people are threatening your precious assumptions. Open forums truly are terrifying. Sailer had the opinion of your family doctor. Is that so awful? Does he have to agree with you on everything?

    Maybe move along to one of dozens of anti-vaxx websites that censor any unwanted information.

    I honestly don’t care if you get the vaccine and the mandate was dropped years ago. It’s anti-vaxxers that keep bringing up the subject as if they are stuck in an X-files episode.

  1413. EdwardM says:
    @John Johnson

    Tattoos used to be an expression of one’s individuality, a form of rebellion. Now it’s the opposite, a trite conformity such as posting edgy personal missives on social media. The fact that half of young women seem to have them (seems like more than that at a typical Las Vegas pool) doesn’t credit their owners in my eyes.

    • Agree: HA
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  1414. @EdwardM

    I definitely don’t see it as rebellion.

    People that are completely covered in tattoos are more likely to be attention seeking. If anything I view them as conformist for wanting constant affirmation. But I also acknowledge that some people like the sleeve look. I think it is overdone but oh well. I also think it is a bad idea for Whites in places like Arizona to get tattoos. They just look awful after a bunch of sunburns.

    There is probably a cyclical trend like everything else with this being peak tattoo.

    Right now the 70s porn mustache is back in style. I saw like 3 in a row the other day. I probably would not have noticed but my wife pointed out the trend.

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  1415. HA says:
    @John Johnson

    “Right now the 70s porn mustache is back in style.”

    Not at all the same thing. When it comes 70’s porn-staches and 80’s MembersOnly jackets or 90’s grunge-flannel is that a few months or years later, when the fad has worn thin, you can shave it off or stuff it all back in the closet, and maybe take them up again at some point ironically, at some future Halloween or costume party.

    Not so with the stupid back tattoo that was all the rage at one point. By the time you realize that what you once thought was cool and edgy is now just tiresome and trashy and overdone, your recourses are few. The tattooists will tell you, no problem, just come back in and double down by getting ANOTHER splotch of ink to cover that bad boy. (Apparently, two wrongs DO make a right in tattoo-land.) But seeing the ever increasing number of geriatrics these days with their saggy sun-damaged skin and worn down tattoos, there’s an upper limit as to how often that works.

    The other alternative is removal, and however painful and bothersome it may be to pay someone to be the walking billboard for their artistry (which is something that they should be paying YOU for), tattoos hurt far more coming off than they do coming on.

    We all make stupid life choices at some point in our lives, especially when young. Smart people have the intelligence to pick, when it comes to their stupid choices, something that can be remedied with nothing more onerous than a shave or a costume change.

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  1416. @HA

    Not so with the stupid back tattoo that was all the rage at one point. By the time you realize that what you once thought was cool and edgy is now just tiresome and trashy and overdone, your recourses are few.

    I don’t think most people getting tattoos think they are cool or edgy.

    I think tattoos are just in a cycle. Something that waxes and wanes and not so much a trend that people are trying to follow for the sake of acceptance. When some chick gets a rose on her ankle it isn’t to fit in. It is more of a style thing that is permanent. Most of those girl tattoos you only see at the pool.

    We all make stupid life choices at some point in our lives, especially when young. Smart people have the intelligence to pick, when it comes to their stupid choices, something that can be remedied with nothing more onerous than a shave or a costume change.

    Smart people in America constantly make terrible decisions that have permanent ramifications. I wish they would get tattoos and hang out at a pool instead of rallying around awful candidates and failed ideas. In fact I would say it has nothing to do with age as I would rate boomers as the worst. One of the smartest people I know is a boomer who had his political opinions wiped after many years of Fox News. He once had a lot of nuanced thoughts and tried to listen to all sides. He now tells me that Israel should just go ahead and wipe Gaza off the map for self-defense.

    • Replies: @HA
  1417. @John Johnson

    I don’t think people are referring to the small one-off ankle, back of neck, or thigh tattoos here. People have half their arms or half their whole bodies covered.

    I was in a place today where dozens of smoking hot college girls were coming and going. One walked by with back, arm, leg tattoos, hell, I don’t even know because I stopped looking at her because it was so off-putting. Why ruin otherwise beautiful skin and an otherwise nice body like that? It’s plain stupid.

  1418. HA says:
    @John Johnson

    “I don’t think most people getting tattoos think they are cool or edgy.”

    They could also be angry about Mom and Dad’s divorce, or about what their creepy stepbrother kept trying to do, or be insecure about any number of things I would not presume to belittle or dismiss (as stupid as I think is the notion that a tattoo will fix that). Some of them want to celebrate their divorce.

    If any of that sounds like something you want for yourself, then I’ll say different strokes for different folks. I respect your right to make choices I consider cheap and vulgar. As for me, when divorcee moms decide to glom onto a trend, it’s a clear jumping-the-shark signal, but I’m not a GI or an actual Maori warrior, so tattoos were never expected of me. Maybe when I see people able to make lifetime commitments to relationships and upholding their principles with the same dedication needed to permanently scar your skin with some ink, I might change my opinion. As it is, I see the degradation in actual commitments and the increased popularity of cheap superficial skin-deep commitments as connected. I want something better than that.

    The ancient Jews forbade tattoos. They shunned the practice of tattooing one’s devotion to one’s God, or any other one-and-done procedure, and instead, commanded every Jew to bind leather straps on himself for his decorations, so as to feel the pinch each and every time they pray and renew tha commitment. I admire that. (Of course, they then totally reversed that admirable principle when it came to circumcision, but I’m not a fan of that either.)

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