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The Geneva rendezvous of two presidents remains an enigma. Why did they meet at all? They agreed that nuclear war is bad for all; fine! Didn’t they know that? Did they check on their partner’s soul, did they look into the eyes? Now we have some answers, based on conversations with my Israeli friends who had the advantage of hearing both sides, the Russians and the Americans. Our loyal readers deserve to know what actually happened in Geneva.
In brief: Biden came to tell Putin that the US is in good shape, has recovered from the pandemic, its economy is better than the Chinese one, and that he is in charge. The meeting was quite peaceful; Biden was rather mellow, while Secretary of State Blinken was in attack mode; he argued with his own president and tried to boss him about. The Russians were prepared for worse, much worse. They thought that the meetings of Biden with the G7 and with NATO would lead to a crescendo in Geneva, and were relieved to learn that this meeting was not a presentation of a united Western position towards Russia.
Prologue: A Preparation to the Summit
Putin gave an interview to NBC’s Keir Simmons. The idea was to prepare for the worst that could happen at the summit. Another man would tell Simmons to f*ck off after the first few questions, but Putin endured his immoderate rudeness and insults with a smile, like an Indian brave captured by enemies. He never descended to rudeness. Simmons spoke to Putin as Tim Sebastian on the BBC’s Hard Talk would; the Romans might have spoken thus to a king brought in chains to Rome. Putin endured all, and he became mentally prepared for rough treatment in Geneva. It was not necessary, in the end. The summit passed much better than the Western media expected.
I believe that the world needs Russia, not because it is wonderful, but so that the world does not fall under the iron heel of the Pentagon/CIA/Wall Street/NY Times. Russia is a guarantee of diversity. Marx in his days supported the colonisation of California; he thought it would be progressive. Trotsky, in his time, denied Marx, saying he would support the backward Indian chief fighting a progressive coloniser. Marx was on the side of progress, but I think Trotsky was right, fuck progress, diversity is more important.
At the summit
The only subject Biden spoke about on behalf of the united West was Belarus. He said the West had agreed to punish Lukashenko for the airliner landing and the dissident arrest. Putin replied without hesitation: Russia fully supports Belarus. They did what they were allowed to do by international law; they were within their rights. And nobody can punish Belarus without Russia’s consent.
On Ukraine, Putin ‘lectured’ the Americans (Blinken’s word). He said that Russia would agree to US participation in the Normandy process (this is a mediation process by Russia, Germany and France) but Merkel and Macron aren’t willing to let the US in. Biden said that the US could help to implement the Minsk agreements. (The Minsk agreements were signed between the Donbas and Kiev in the aftermath of the military defeat the Kiev army suffered at the hands the Donbas. By these agreements, Ukraine would become a federated republic with greater powers devolved to all its provinces including the Donbas. The Donbas would then reintegrate within the Ukraine. The Minsk agreements were never implemented, for Kiev by different subterfuges refused to devolve its powers. Russia wants the Minsk agreements to be implemented, and Putin called it the only way to settlement in the Ukraine). Biden’s words annoyed his Secretary of State Blinken. He said: it will be a waste of time, no need for us to get into it.
Referring to the Afghanistan withdrawal, Biden made an unexpected request. The US asked for temporary military bases to be established in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, for twin purposes: (1) to facilitate the withdrawal of US troops and (2) to keep supplying the Kabul government with arms and ammunition after the withdrawal. This request was (almost) unexpected, but Putin promptly refused it for the following reasons. Such bases would invite the ire of the Taliban, leading to them being necessarily attacked, and that these two states would be drawn into war. This is unacceptable for Russia, as Russia has military obligations there, and these states are very close to Russia proper. In addition, China would consider the placement of military bases near China’s border a hostile act.
Biden stressed the temporary nature of such an arrangement. Putin could say there is nothing as lasting as a temporary arrangement. He flatly refused. This is probably wise: Russia withdrew from Afghanistan in 1989, and there was no reason to import the Afghan war into old Soviet territory in order to please the old adversary. Putin could also have added that the Uzbek constitution explicitly forbids the placing of foreign bases on its soil, for good reason: when there was a US base in Uzbekistan, it was used by the Americans to promote pro-American political leaders who stood in opposition to the then president Mr Karimov. But Putin didn’t go into it, to avoid the impression of passing the buck to the Uzbek leader. The buck stops at the Kremlin. His reference to Chinese interests made a lasting impression, the Americans say. In 2001, the very same Putin allowed the US the facilities to attack Afghanistan and transfer equipment via Russia. Twenty years passed, and Putin had learned that playing up to the Empire carries no reward. Then he helped the US, as a payback, the US instigated the Chechen rising and terror attacks. Putin said so in Munich, in 2007.
The Biden team tried to surprise and pressure the Russians regarding Syria. Even before the summit, the US team tried to attach to the three declarative paragraphs of their joint declaration (quite vague and meaningless by themselves) a very meaningful fourth paragraph. It actually called for the perpetuation of the present-day Syrian disorder, for the perpetual break up of Syria, covering it with insincere words about attending to humanitarian needs. There were through-border arrangements at Bab al-Hawa used by the US and its allies to resupply the Islamist rebels in Syria and to withdraw them in case of need. Through these arrangements, Americans removed the ISIS fighters and moved them to Afghanistan, so they would fight the Taliban. Preserving these arrangements would lead to the permanent separation of the Idlib enclave. Russia was against it, and so the Russians stated and explained in the UNSC (UN Security Council).
As this subject will come before the UNSC on July 10, Russia intends to veto (if necessary) any resolution that would perpetuate this open gate into Syria. Syrians are indeed in need of humanitarian help, but the Syrian government is much better prepared to deal with crisis and the distribution of aid than the Islamist fighters who steal everything and sell the stuff at Turkish markets. Putin said that. He could add that if the US is concerned with Syrians’ well-being, it might lift the sanctions that starve Syrians. Syria is under Western sanctions that forbid even the import of food, medicines and fuel. In addition, the US steals Syrian oil and Iranian oil on its way to Syria. US appeals about the humanitarian crisis in Syria remind one of the father-killer who asks for mercy as an orphan. There would be no crisis in Syria if the West had not supported the Islamist rebels and sanctioned Syria to death.
Putin didn’t go into it. The Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov proposed to set up negotiations for the whole of the MENA (Middle East – North Africa) area, including Syria and Libya. Within such a framework, the question of Bab al-Hawa could be discussed. He also suggested that the West should stop trying to remove President Assad. However, the US side refused this suggestion. No agreement was reached, and Biden referred to it in his press conference, repeating all the hypocritical regrets about the Syrian crisis.
The sides discussed cyber-security, too. As we know, Biden proposed a list of 16 items of critical infrastructure that should not be attacked by hackers. The sides should arrest all hackers who interfere with these items. Biden didn’t try to blame Putin, whether personally or Russia as a state of hacking the US infrastructure. Biden stressed that he was referring to individual rogue hackers who do these things. Putin replied that actually the US territory is the main source of hacker attacks, with Canada a distant second. (Russian territory keeps the fifth or sixth place in this ranking). Putin said that Russia received ten US requests for assistance in connection with the hacker attacks; all ten were responded to and dealt with. At the same time, Russia lodged 45 requests last year and 35 requests this year referring to US-based hacker attacks on Russian assets. All of them remained unanswered. The US simply never responds.
Biden referred to China, but without (as was usual for Trump) anti-Chinese vehemence. He said that the US economy is much stronger than the Chinese one; that they have recovered from the Covid crisis. He expressed his commiseration to Russia that she shares a thousand-miles-long border with China; that should bother the Russians immensely, he said. He repeated this statement at his press conference. The Russians were amazed by this naïve attempt to draw a wedge between Russia and China. Putin said that China is a friend of Russia; their friendship is not aimed against the US, but it was caused by the previous US administration’s efforts to antagonise both Russia and China, by declaring Russia an enemy. At his press conference, Putin said that Russia is not worried about Chinese aircraft-carriers, for their border is mainly on the land; and anyway China has so few carriers compared to the US that it is not worthy of mention.
Speaking of the economy, Putin said that US companies suffer in the Russian market because of the US sanctions. He suggested establishing a bilateral commission to promote economic relations. Biden looked at this favourably, but he switched the subject to three Americans who are now in Russian prisons, one for spying, one for financial crimes and one for a drunken brawl with police. They should be released, said Biden, for business to progress. Putin retorted that the US kidnaps Russian citizens in third countries and extradites them to America to be tried in American courts.
Biden referred to Navalny and to the political opposition in Russia. Putin retorted that the Capitol demo (Jan 6, 2021) participants have been prosecuted and expect long terms in the US jails. How can you compare, said Blinken, these internal terrorists who stormed the Capitol with peaceful opposition. Putin could have shown the videos of peaceful entry into the Capitol, when the protesters were waved in by police, he could also show the videos of wild attacks on the police by Navalny supporters in Russia; he referred to this in his press conference.
Biden referred to the Arctic, in rather favourable (to Russia) key. Blinken intervened and accused the Russians in militarising Arctic. Putin objected. He said Russia is against the militarisation of the Arctic; Russia repairs its military infrastructure in the Arctic that existed in Soviet days and has been decaying ever since. The Russians suggested to reconvene regular meetings of the Chiefs of Staff that were held until 2014, to deal with the question. The American side did not respond to this suggestion.
The sides agreed to return ambassadors to Moscow and Washington, respectively. It remains to be seen how this will go. Before the Russian ambassador had been recalled home for consultations, he was cold-shouldered in Washington. He could not reach American officials; due to Kremlingate, they were afraid to meet with Russian diplomats. If this attitude continues the return of the ambassador will be of little use.
The sides agreed to continue their negotiations in July; probably cyber security and other topics will be discussed then. Putin suggested that a summit of the five UNSC permanent members be arranged; this is his old idea that he has voiced many times, but it was not well received by the Biden team. The summit didn’t produce any tangible results; however, the presidents have met. Biden was lucid and coherent. He is likely to last and survive many of those who spoke of his dementia. He was also quite friendly to Putin; the role of ‘bad cop’ was taken by Blinken who was accompanied by Victoria (“f*ck EU”) Nuland.
Biden’s reference to his mother’s words was quite reasonable and well received. Biden quoted his mother saying that unintentional conflict could be worse than deliberate; meaning that Russia and the US should try to avoid unintentional conflicts by means of meetings and negotiations. This is also the Russian view. Biden got tired rather fast, and the summit was adjourned before time.
Press Conference
After the meeting, they had their respective press conferences. Unusually, the press conferences were totally separate, and held in different locations. American and other foreign journalists attended the Putin conference; they asked impertinent and offensive questions. Putin answered every question. Russian journalists weren’t admitted to the Biden conference. Biden was asked questions that had been worked out in advance. There was not a single daring or even difficult question. Did Putin promised to behave? – this sort of question. None of the hard-boiled questions the US journos asked Trump. Biden had the extra advantage of speaking after Putin, so he knew what Putin answered.
Biden had for his conference a trump spot overlooking Lake Geneva; thus he had the advantage of a good picture. Putin was to speak first, in a tent, without a view. On the other hand, Biden stood under a scorching sun and sweated a lot; Putin had air conditioning. Putin was not afraid to answer any questions, did not mumble, and answered harshly, but not rudely – although some questions begged for reciprocal rudeness.
Apparently, the High Contracting Parties have not agreed on anything, which is already good. The Western media expected that Biden would drag out Putin, he would repent and promise to behave himself. It did not work out. The arrogance of the American side was striking at every step. It was quite difficult for the Russian president, although he is strong, energetic and easily finds the right words. He had no sycophantic media as Biden had. Biden became angry at a question and suggested that the journalist should change his occupation. Putin kept cool.
Probably most embarrassing was the opening of the Biden Press Conference when he spoke of America’s commitment to democracy and openness. I heard such speeches when I was forty or fifty years younger, but now they sound improbable. Alas, the US is not the free country it was once upon a time. However, the summit concluded without tragic consequences, which is already good. Life is going on.
Summit Aftermath
In Russia, there was one drastic change. If before Putin’s voyage, Russia was quite peaceful and content, immediately as the great man went away, Moscow descended into a spasm of vaccination fever. Moscow Mayor Mr Sergei Sobyanin, who ordered a very severe lockdown in spring 2020, turned back to his bad old ways and began enforcing vaccination. Until June 16, vaccination was a perfectly voluntary affair in Russia; available to all willing but nobody was forced to vaccinate. At the beginning of June, Russian officials said the pandemic was behind us. Putin explicitly said nobody should be forced to vaccinate. And apparently only 9% of Russia’s adult population went to get a jab. People were quite content and managed all right.
All that changed in one day. Now there is non-stop propaganda for vax; in social networks, influencers preach hate to those irresponsible people who refused the jab. They are called “murderers”; many employers intend to fire their non-vaccinated workers. Moscow again introduced QR-codes for restaurants. In the city of Nizhny, non-vaccinated couples can’t get married. In the south, churches and mosques were closed to worshippers. The switch is so sudden, so brutal and unexpected! At the same time, flights to Turkey and other holiday destinations have been resumed after a long break. The Euro 2020 football matches go on in the filled-to-its-capacity stadium of St Petersburg; the city applied to have more matches of the final games.
The subject of vaccination or Covid was not discussed at the summit, so we can’t say that it was a US initiative. Apparently, Covid Masters had noticed that the Russians have it too good. Dr Alexander Ginzburg, the head of Gamaleya, the Sputnik V vaccine developer and producer, advised people to revaccinate in order to save themselves from the Indian variant, the fearsome Delta, even if they are vaccinated.
I can offer an additional explanation. The Russian upper classes want to fit into a European way of living. Peter the Great, the first Russian Emperor, was so fond of European ways that he fought with the beards the natives used to grow. He even chopped the beards of disobedient boyars with his mighty axe, the stories tell. The Russian upper classes wore wigs; they accepted tobacco smoking in the 18th century and gave it up at the end of 20th century. The fashion was always fiercely enforced. Perhaps now the people of Moscow with their tendency to follow European fashion decided to accept vaccines and masks.
Another explanation connects the change to vaccine output. The production output was quite small; though it was enough for those willing to vaccinate, it won’t be sufficient if all Russians would like to take the jab. Now the output capacity has grown; and the vaccine can’t be stored forever, it has to be used. This could be a plausible explanation: desire to utilise the produced vaccines that could not be sold abroad as the West effectively blocked sales of Sputnik and other Russian vaccines on its territory. They wanted to keep the market for Pfizer and Moderna, instead of sharing the market for the greater benefit of the population.
(A similar development occurred in Israel, where they had a million of ready vaccines near their final validity date. They tried to give them to Palestine in exchange for newer vaccines in September, but the Palestinians refused for they could not use them within one week of validity. Then the Israelis decided to vaccinate children.)
Putin never got involved in the covid restriction measures. He didn’t go as far as President Lukashenko who just ignored Covid, but he never called for lockdown or for mandatory vaccination. It was delegated to local authorities, and they usually were sufficiently prompt, especially in Moscow. Perhaps the Mayor took the initiative into his hands while Putin was engaged elsewhere. Putin is a powerful leader, no doubt, but he is not an omnipotent ruler of Russia. He has to consider other opinions and positions, too.
Bear in mind that China also has a similar drive. For a year, it was considered the Chinese had beaten the virus down. It was possible to vaccinate but few did. In March 2021, one million Chinese received a jab; now 700 million got at least one shot. And in China, too, the authorities have made life miserable for those unwilling to accept. The Ukraine, however, has no vaccination. They refused the Russian vaccine; the West never provided them with Western vaccines. But nothing especially bad happened to the Ukrainians. Instead of vaccination, they treat covid with Ivermectin, and their results are better than those in neighbouring (vaccinated) Poland.
Anyway, in Geneva the presidents didn’t discuss Corona crisis or vaccinations; so apparently the present Russian rush for vaccinations was not directly connected with the summit, just with the Putin’s temporary departure, along the lines of “When the cat’s away the mice will play”. This is quite a relief: I was worried that the vaccination increase was a Western demand. Now we know it was not.
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Excellent update. Thank you.
So, the US had a non-productive summit with Russia, but it didn’t cancel any naval exercises in the Black Sea. Only today the UK, Royal Navy provocatively sent HMS Defender on a “freedom of navigation” evolution within 12 miles of Sevastopol. Is the UK acting as the US attack dog here – actually much more like an attack puppy TBCH. As far as I can recall, there is no part of the UK coastline that is on the Black Sea.
(For info: I served 22 years in the afore-mentioned Royal Navy)
Russia should have sunk the floating tub of shit!
Unless these Assholes realise the pain that will be incurred by their provocative actions, then they will not stop.
“Biden was rather mellow, while Secretary of State Blinken was in attack mode; he argued with his own president and tried to boss him about.”
The Secretary of State obviously considers himself to be above Biden, if he is openly and aggressively arguing with Sleepy Joe at such an important Summit.
Maybe Tony should change his name to “Abraham”. It’s much more Jewish and very presidential sounding:
Abraham Blinken
Many thanks to Israel and his insiders for giving us a ringside seat at what really amounts to a political circus. Putin and Lavrov were the Ring Master and Lion Tamer, while Biden and Blinken were simply unfunny clowns……
“Biden made an unexpected request. The US asked for temporary military bases to be established in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, for twin purposes: (1) to facilitate the withdrawal of US troops and (2) to keep supplying the Kabul government with arms and ammunition after the withdrawal.”
This request of Russia could only come from an arrogant, obnoxious mix of one part supreme chutzpah and one part demented delusion.
Biden may be trolling with his Alzheimers schtick…. ““How would it be if the United States were viewed by the rest of the world as interfering in their elections and everybody knew it?”
Uzbekistan is the country of orchards an vineyards . Fertile land.
Good solid factual article. I like it very much.
I agree, this simple list of topics and positions has greater information content than the combined newspaper columns I’ve read in western media.
The US and UK were testing Russia’s resolve and Russia’s response capabilities.
Foreign ships may not approach Crimea closer than 12 miles without Russian permission. The UK warship penetrated about 1.8 miles into the 12-mile Russian zone to see what would happen, and it was chased away. A U.S. spy plane monitored the event.
It would have been gratifying to see that UK ship blown out of the water, but why should Russia engage in a shootout when ZOG nations are committing suicide as fast as they can?
ZOG nations are using “woke” filth to destroy themselves socially and culturally. Everywhere you look there is BLM supremacy, tranny supremacy, and anal fanaticism. Kids in American schools are no longer taught reading, writing, and how to add 1+1. Instead, white kids are told that they are evil racists, and black kids are told that they are “victims” of the white kids. And all of them are exposed to pornography and tranny depravity, right in the classroom.
When parents complain about this at school board meetings, they are arrested, and the school boards suddenly declare their own meetings to be “unlawful assemblies.”
ZOG nations are also being destroyed economically by their mindless greed — e.g. Blackrock’s campaign to reduce all Americans to lifelong renters.
ZOG nations are also being destroyed politically by the boundless corruption of politicians.
ZOG nations are also destroying themselves physically with vaccine mandates, and with garbage food that sustains an epidemic of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and metabolic syndrome.
Again, why engage in a shootout with an idiot that is about to collapse altogether? Every day ZOG gets weaker, while China and Russia get stronger.
Remember how people hoarded toilet paper at the start of the pandemic hoax? We will see that again, only a thousand times worse. One day very soon, China will cut off all exports to the USA. The shelves in Wal Mart, Target, and many other stores will suddenly become empty as Americans hoard whatever they can.
As everyone panics, someone will say something “woke,” and the floodgates will open. The pendulum will swing to the other side. Liberals will be hunted down and exterminated.
Russia and China will watch all this with amusement.
In the top picture, Biden looks like he’s thinking, “where am I?” Putin’s expression’s saying, why am I here?
China and Russia should announce that they’re having naval manoeuvres in the North Sea to really aggravate Nato.
These meetings are just theatre, a circus where the clowns are in the audience (“In Soviet Russia, the clown is you”).
Does anyone believe that “senile children-toucher” Biden decides anything?
He probably doesn’t even get to decide which brand of adult diapers he must use.
That would be a daft reaction, sort of trap the Germans ran head long in to in 1914 and 1939. Putin is good at sidestepping such traps.
Thanks for these insights. Putin was very patient with western journalists, actually his coolness is impressive when facing directly offensive questions from agitated journalists. These western journalists are so serious, they look so incredibly self-righteous, one tends to think they really are feeling those intense emotions instead of just projecting their careers.
This article neglects to mention that each side brought 400 experts to negotiate directly. Everything in this article is window-dressing.
The real negotiations took place among these experts. The meeting was held because the Americans are waking up to the fact that advances in Russian weapons mean that the Americans have lost that particular race.
The fact that Russia was able to mobilise so many troops so quickly when Ukraine was threatening to invade the two independent republics was a big shock to NATO. Most of these Russian troops have returned to their bases – but they left their heavy weaponry behind. NATO would have taken many months to do an equivalent mobilisation. The Russians would have seen it coming and cut off the North Atlantic with their undetectable submarines.
America negotiated from a position of weakness. The faction in the US that prefers a conflict with China has become dominant. The (((Neocons))) have lost a whole series of conflicts – Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Georgia, Armenia, Belarus – and they have lost much of their credibility.
I suspect that the Russians have been assured that Ukraine will not join the EU or NATO (same thing). The US will largely stop meddling in Ukraine, Belarus, Syria, Georgia and Armenia. These are now within the Russian “sphere of influence”. We will see how events unfold. Of course, the CIA and others will keep on trying to undermine this agreement.
The British are aware of this. They are floundering and trying to keep the US onside. Fat chance!
At the same time, they are hinting that Boris Johnson wants to meet Putin and they are provoking the Russians in Crimea. Totally clueless. 🙂
“Biden White House ditches Ukraine military project”
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Johnson-Putin summit possible if Russia ends ‘malign activity’, defence secretary says
Russia says it chases British destroyer out of Crimea waters with warning shots, bombs
Doesn’t seem to be very productive for Russia to go along with American schemes since the US always uses them to gain a one sided advantage. Everything is always a lure of some sort. The American media just used this to endlessly repeat the same propaganda talking points they’ve been using for years, Putin’s a dictator, he poisons opponents, he interfered in US elections, and so on. Force may be the only thing Americans understand, part of the primitive American mindset. Insofar as the vax stuff goes, who knows what’s going on behind the scenes. Maybe the Americans are set to release some more bioweapon viruses under the ruse of new ‘variants’ emerging.
Two cheers for the Nazi regime in Kiev.
Considering what we Brits did off Crimea yesterday, maybe the Russians should sail a warship through the Solent – that’s the stretch of water between Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight. When we had a naval fleet that mattered, it would gather there on important occasions in sight of the naval base.
I doubt very much that China will be cutting off exports to the US so long as they are paid for, more probably the US will be the one disrupting trade relations.
Apart from that point I agree with you.
I see absolutely no reason for your optimism in that regard.
A bit of a contradiction.
I want that swamp scum to croak asap so that Kamalawala gets in and accelerates the needed destruction/extermination of the diversity/affirmative action ‘woke’ movement.
Two live Jooz. NEOCONS must be destroyed by any and all means.
So this is the Zionist version, ha!
The one real superpower.
Outside of the Second Coming of our Lord, for the sake of the planet America and Russia should destroy The Zionist Entity and imprison for life/silence all elite Zionists, including Christian ones.
I wasn’t aware of Ukrainians not being forced to take the shot and their use of ivermectin. Will they be the great survivors of the coming cytokin storms? Or will the pro-vaxx cohort survive and Ukraine emptied of its population? I’ve been convinced by the arguments of the anti-gene therapy scientists and will remain in the control group. It’s good to hear that at least 1 White country is ducking the shot. We’ll see who survives.
While I do not disagree with the substance of your comment.. I find it difficult to resolve that you attribute to America what is attached to and is solely USA and its governed dependents. Biden is a member of the USA. The USA governed Americans and the USA are (include but a small part of all Americans) two very different groups of people: (340,000,000 USA governed people vs 527 governor persons). In size, in power, in purpose and in understanding the two groups are vastly different; yet collectively they comprise but a small part of America?
America stretches pole to pole, from N. Canada. to Cape Horn. enclosing many different people groups, governed by different nation states. So the American Continent host many, of the 256 different, nation states. Nation states are the crucibles that differentiate, separate, blend and use the mental and physical behaviors of 8 billion people who live on the planet earth.
The nation state is bounded by a set of permeable membranes (akin to a biological cell). The boundary membrane filters are controlled by rule of law from within, and by resistance opposing external forces seeking to gain entry from without. Goods, Information, People and Services (GIPS) flows between these boundaries are controlled by rule of law but private and non governmental interest seek to direct the GIPS traffic between the different nation state jurisdictions. Behavior and thinking of the governed are controlled from within, with result that the governed are differentiated mentally and regulated physically to conform to the wishes of those who have the power to control how the awesome powers of the nation state are used.
It is this within nation state manipulation that conditions governed humanity to make war between nations. The MSM supports the rule of law differentiation processes, domestically, it filters, restricts and allows arriving and departing information. From within, manipulation involves propaganda the governed public is allowed to see. Internationally, the national boundaries filter incoming GIPS arriving from foreign other places which are governed by other nation states. In short, MSM and the rule of law, and use of force inherent in each nation state supports the global differentiation processes that the Oligarch have used to kept separated the 8 billion humans that occupy planet earth. The result of nation state differentiation has been governed hate groups easily directed by propaganda and rule of law to attack other hate groups.
Powerful greedy interest use these nation state differentiated masses to achieve their selfish purposes., mostly they do that, by enslaving the awesome powers of a nation state to their private or greedy purpose. Minds are controlled and behavior is regulated by MSM propaganda and rule of law.
The US is weak. There is no indication that the US is negotiating from a position of strength or has any realistic leverage against Russia. Ideologically, the US is in a double-bind. For it to regain its former status is to reject the cultural-Marxist edicts against merit and excellence. For it to reject cultural-Marxism is to explode at home. There is nothing more satisfying than to watch stupidity masquerading as morality or intelligence reap its just reward.
Shlomo Yahuda Jabotinski would be a better name for Blinken. Anyhow, the US is one potty nation and is paying the price for its hubris. Exceptional nation, my ass.
Except that Putin loves Israel. No question about that.
Clarification:
The USA uses sanctions to constantly increase its economic war against China. This has forced China to seek alternative sources of raw materials, and alternative customers for China’s goods. Sanctions have also forced China to become more self-sufficient. Every day China becomes economically stronger and more self-sufficient, and more technologically advanced.
Meanwhile, every day, ZOG nations become economically weaker. Already they have almost zero self-sufficiency.
When ZOG’s economic war approaches a shooting war, China will no longer need to export to the USA, and China will stop exporting to the USA. China will weaponize an embargo.
This will cause economic chaos in the USA, since the USA has already sent most of its manufacturing to Asia. Average Americans will engage in panic hoarding, thereby causing the shelves in Wal Mart and Target, etc to become empty overnight. We saw this last year with the toilet paper craze. And that was only one product.
Just before World War II, the USA stopped exporting oil to Japan, causing economic chaos in Japan. China will do the same to the USA on a vastly larger scale.
As panic grips America, Black crime will explode as ever before. Liberals will continue to blame everything on “white supremacy,” “homo-phobia,” and so on. Wall Street will continue to play financial games, rather that engage in industrial capitalism. Democrats will blame “racism.” Republicans will blame China.
The end of the USA will be sudden. Some ZOG nations will collapse. Some will ally with China.
I respectfully disagree. Because the USA has sent most of its manufacturing base abroad, the USA has the world’s biggest trade deficit. The USA is a parasite on the world, and cannot stop relying on imports from its global host, including China.
Nor can the USA parasite suddenly develop its own manufacturing base, since “wokeness” has crippled American society, and since Wall Street does not care about manufacturing. (Wall Street only cares about financial games.)
Democrats are already destroying blue states, since Democrats only care about lining their pockets, and about using “wokeness” and election fraud to stay in power.
The USA is insane to threaten China while utterly depending on China.
But that’s ZOG.
ZOG (i.e. the Judaic ethos) is a cancer that cannot stop.
ZOG has doomed itself.
“while Secretary of State Blinken was in attack mode; he argued with his own president and tried to boss him about.”
Blinken is an Ashkenazi (aka Fake Hebrew). And the Fake Hebrews have a real problem with Russia.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/judaica/the-ashkenazim/
Anytime there is a story in the MSM that event “X” took place, there is another piece that asserts that “Y” took place and “X” is all false. Of course the vendors of each scenario insist with “proof” that their version is the correct. From those two interpretations of events we then have an explosion of heads with a whole other bunch of theories, opinions, forecasts and predictions. If a major player picks his nose behaviour specialists and body language gurus are called in to interpret this and the effect on his truthfulness. The poor sucker addicted to his computer screen must have a permanent vertigo by the end of each and every day. We now live in a world where the shit is up to our eyeballs.
Anyone with any sense should avoid MSM and people need to do more of their own thinking especially about the things that affect them in their part of the world.
I dont know whether the US will abandon Ukraine. However, the US is notorious for using, promising and supporting other regimes when it suits them and dumping them when it suits Washington. Second, while I am no global strategist or political wizard, I really dont know why the US would continue to tamper in the affairs of Ukraine. The country has been affiliated with Russia for centuries. This is as ludicrous as Russia supporting Canada against the US. I think the Ukraine without the US will be a better place. America has a way of destroying all it touches and that destruction as we can all see has now visited the homeland.
Given these 2 observations I think it is highly likely the US will dump Ukraine. Its what the US does.
That is why people respect Putin and despise the US. Russia stands with her allies while the US use their allies like whores.
Actually if Joe had is wits still about him, would we have a Blinken? Biden was a mere crony corrupt politician. Damn good at it. However he was never an avowed leftist. Dr. Jill has benefited immensely from the Biden graft machine. I do wonder if she has the brains to take on Biden’s Bolshevik cabinet? Apparently the cabinet wants to take on both Putin and flyover America with its tranny, gay, and diverse military. Bolshies do love to murder masses. And yes world, we all have to rely on Dr. Jill to keep the cackling camel the whore and kosher mass murdering wannabes at bay just by keeping Joe upright and babbling. Fun times.
“The (((Neocons))) have lost a whole series of conflicts – Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Georgia, Armenia, Belarus – and they have lost much of their credibility.“
They have no credibility at all, but they will never let that stop them.
The Secretary of State obviously considers himself to be above Biden, if he is openly and aggressively arguing with Sleepy Joe at such an important Summit.
Blinkers gets his instructions from Tel Aviv not from Joey. His job is to ensure that Sleepy Joe stays awake long enough to understand those orders and to obey. Hence the conflict between the two. In the end Blinkers was no match for Lavrov. This is also the second time he has been incompetent in dealing with a major power. If Jews are so smart what happened to him ? Or was he chosen because he was stupid and hence more easily controlled by his handlers ?
Joe on the other hand is the paper bully caught outside the school yard. In so many of his ad hoc speeches he brags about his younger days and what a tough hard ass he was. Then he went out into the street and met a real gangster, a killer according to Joey. Its all fun and games to be a loud mouth in the classroom and another thing when school is out. Joe is no match for Vlad in any way shape or form.
The whole thing was a clown show and a humiliation. Blinker and his Jew stooge should have stayed at home. Instead they went to the circus and joined the performers.
The US is in the hands of the three stooges, Blinkers, Joey and Kam with the worse yet to come.
Was just a “fuck you I don’t respect your claim of sovereignty” move by the brits.
At the least I’m sure there are good ways of disabling a ship via non lethal means if needed to stop it moving, maybe taking out the propeller/ rudder etc..
Sometimes humiliating your opponent has a better effect than escalating things through force.
The Iranians showed this just after the Iraq war when the Brits again entered their waters illegally. They arrested and held them for a few days, showing humiliating interviews of them acting unprofessionaly disheveled female crew smoking and criticizing their gov.
The brits never tested the Iranians again
This is the real “summit”.
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Shamir is a little confused.
You can have diversity of thought, but there are certain limits that cannot be crossed.
A nation is an extended tribe. At the lowest “atomic level” it is a family. The family extends outward in radiating concentric circles, where the people have genetic, cultural, and historical ties.
Nation States that survive long term, are people groups that are ethnically close, going back deep into history. They know where their fathers and fore-fathers are buried, and are not confused about their place in history and time.
Basically, Trotsky was full of crap, and so was Marx.
Money is fungible (meaning it has legs) but that doesn’t by definition also mean that people are fungible.
Trotsky and Marx are downstream of economics. Finance International wants to export its “capital” to make gains, and it wants to import people to make gains (lowered cost of labor).
There are plenty of cases in history where this notion of fungibility are refuted. During America’s high tariff era, the American System of Economy was predicated on lifting up American Labor to a high value, not degrading it with unskilled immigration.
During NSDAP economy, Hitler had no reason to immigrate people, instead he upgraded the labor of the German people.
During this upgrade, the people of Germany (and before it in America) were not deracinated and diversified.
Nobody can deny that Germany of that day was a first rate scientific power, and obviously they had diversity of thought, but did not need diversity of people.
The impulse to empire, is greed. Holders of Capital or special interests want more, more, more. Something like Billy Idol. She want more.
One impulse in America was the excess production of farm goods. The farmers wanted to export their crops to make more money.
It is only a Fascist country with a highly educated and moral elite, trained to understand economy and sociology, that can overcome the impulse to empire.
Fascist leaders put their foot in the ass in wannabe oligarchs or special interest groups that want to self aggrandize.
American farmers wanted to export their crops to get “more” and they want to immigrate cheap labor to get “more.” Some ass kicking is required to prevent unwanted diversity, diversity which ultimately is a nation wrecker.
The past president of the United States ; and the current president of the United States both happen to be “infirm” individuals who were incapable of serving in the Military because of physical difficulties . Both of these individuals have mediocre mentalities. ; but diciplined. Both these men happen to have important advisors who are Talmudic to their core”. The West is doomed.
Strangely enough.
Putin walked into the lions den to tame the lions but only found Jackals attempting to nip at his heels.
Or, with the help of Israelis the Russians and Americans have made a secret pact to screw China and to show it’s on board Putin gave a go-ahead to the Moscow mayor to Vax everyone.
I see absolutely no reason for your optimism in that regard.
Thank you. It is not often that I am considered to be an optimist. 🙂
But let’s look at events and see how they are panning out.
1- There is little doubt that Ukraine has been dumped.
2- Events in Belarus are being wound down. They dumped their agitator Protasevich.
3- The gullible Armenian pro-American diaspora were shocked when NATO member Turkey supported the invasion by Azerbaijan of their historic lands. The Russians saved Armenia once more. Now, the Armenians are turning towards Russia for succour. Better late than never.
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China is following the logical path of economic development. It is developing new markets for its goods to supplement and replace the US market. These are China’s own domestic market and markets in the nations it partners with and develops as sources for energy and raw materials. China is working towards the point where it will no longer accept payment in US dollars at which point no number of F-35’s, aircraft carriers, or tranny troops will be able to keep the Empire credible.
More confusion from Shamir:
Russia’s diversity is a weakness.
The Atlantacists/CIA targeted the Chechen region did they not? They recycled petrodollars out of Saudi to build Madrassas, to then promote Wahabbi/Takfiri ideology.
The ideas was to inflame the Muslim regions, and then have Takfiri foot soldiers, while America runs “air cover” with no-fly zones.
The soft Muslim underbelly of diversity is a weakness in Russia. Fortunately the restive Muslim regions realized the error of their ways, only after Putin went after them viciously, chasing them even to the “out-house.”
The Russian state has loudly proclaimed that the “Russ” were the progenitor of Russia, and that Orthodoxy is an inherent part of the polity.
Diversity is a nation wrecker. Nation states are a collective of people that get along and have language, borders, race, religion, and history in common.
Russia isn’t a guarantor of diversity, they are constantly fighting it. Our (((friends))) nearly took down Russia in the 90’s using similar tactics that destroyed Germany with the hyperinflation in the 20’s.
Putin also ejected the (((Oligarchs))) by taxing them and removing them from government. Russia became less diverse. Many of the oligarchs went to London, the seat of finance capital and diversity.
How’s that diversity working out for London?
The iron heel of the Pentagon/CIA/Wall Street/NY Times is pretty simple… it is Atlantacist/Finance Capital calling the shots.
The iron heel is the diversifying ne0-liberal project that fundamentally is about greed for capitalized in-groups, and to hell with nation-states, where laboring people within want to protect their borders, language, culture, religion and race.
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I’d love to see it too but is such optimism warranted? Or necessary?
Nobody owes their chair to the American President; all are directly appointed by their Deep State sponsors / oligarchs, and feel themselves accountable only to them…
Not to worry, more drag queen shows should keep moral high and hone that fighting Esprit De Corps
https://www.infowars.com/posts/u-s-air-force-base-says-drag-queen-show-was-essential-for-morale/
Except that it miserably failed on the most important point – Covid
– I’m pretty sure the lack of Covid talks shows a degree of collusion about it. The US would like to push the vaxx madness and they have their Russian oligarchs to do it. However, the US government is vehemently opposed to discussions of deliberate virus release, while the Russians have openly admitted that possibility, they have also complained about the US bio-weapons labs around their country. The Russians agreeing not to rock the Covid boat during the summit amounts to collusion.
– A whole lot of meaningless talk to conceal the apparent Russian caving on bio-weapons. If the Russians follow woke “European fashion” they’ll end up dead like the EU itself – the Russians know it – ergo, they aren’t following fashion, they are very deliberate about it and it’s bad news.
I’ve seen Putin insecure and infirm only when he talks about Covid. Something tells me, he can’t rely on his medical advisors and industry. This is a big deal.
The fifth column Atlantacists in Russia have not been squashed. They are alive and kicking.
Classes can be an in-group. The Russian upper-classes, if they are greedy and want “materialism” of the West, they will operate selfishly.
They won’t be a good ruling class, working for the benefit of their “tribe,” but instead will be self-aggrandizing by linking themselves to other countries. By cutting out their own nation’s people, they are traitors and should be treated as such.
For example, wannabe oligarchs in the 90’s grabbed Russian natural resources and then attached dollar debts to said resources/assets. Minerals such as platinum were exported, so the increment of production was gained elsewhere, and did not benefit Russian labor. Russia was reduced to hewers of wood and drawers of water for foreign economies, while an Atlantacist Comprador elite arose.
The problem? Russia today isn’t illiberal enough. They haven’t learned the harsh lessons of the 90’s. Russia’s government hasn’t summoned the will to put down the Atlantacist fifth column. Putin’s “illiberal” approach is one of not pushing too hard, not confronting the cornered RAT on the balcony, or the rat might turn and bite. Perhaps his long view might prevail, but I think he is under-estimating the internal enemy, with Mosow’s Covid hysteria being a case in point.
i suppose the israelis were american translators. flies on the wall, & for that, i am grateful. i respect & read israel shamir always…but on his closing remarks regarding covid19 i am disappointed. putin cares for russian citizens, first, some years ago, probably @ least 3yrs ago by now, that americans were taking blood samples of russians, they had in fact advertised & paid for these samples. he questioned @ the time to what purpose. i expect he suspected to what end & from that time period onward russian military & medical lab workers were on alert. i believe that’s why sputnikV was ready so quickly after the chinese declaration. the delta strain is more deadly, & contagious. it’s possible putin knows something regarding this strain, we do not. what we do know, or are quickly learning, is that biowarfare is going to be the war of choice & that nuclear war will be the demented empire’s last goto.
This is a better news article than 99% of the News currently available elsewhere.
Yes. The only reason why the USA has lasted this long is that US dollars have been accepted worldwide since the end of World War II. The US government creates infinite dollars out of thin air, and the Federal Reserve creates infinite dollars as credit.
Infinite dollars let the USA buy things from everyone worldwide who accepts dollars. As a result, the USA has the world’s biggest trade deficit. The world sells goods to the USA in exchange for dollars that have no physical existence. This has made the USA the biggest parasite in world history. (Israel is a parasite on the US parasite.)
The US dollar is now being replaced by Chinese renminbi and other currencies as China becomes more and more powerful.
Financial articles written by Americans claim this is not so, but they are liars. The liars also boast that the US economy is still larger than China’s economy. When they say “economy,” they include Wall Street paper games, which is not the real economy. It is a financial economy. China’s real economy is larger than the USA’s real economy.
As for the U.S. military, it is crippled by “wokeness,” with tranny supremacy, anal supremacy, and black supremacy. Plus, the USA has no manufacturing base. When US dollars can no longer buy manufactured goods from abroad, the USA will be finished.
Many conservatives comfort themselves by condemning China, which caused none of the problems that are destroying America. NONE of them.
Already we are seeing a shift in international relations. For decades there had been a blood feud between Iran on one side, and Arab nations of the GCC on the other (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE). This blood feud is now easing as the GCC Arab nations hedge their bets. They know that ZOG is getting weaker by the day, and they are making deals with Russia, China, and Iran.
ZOG is finished.
ZOG is Joe Biden, fraught with dementia as he nears death.
Just talking about oil, China imports almost all it uses. and it’s easier to shut down the Chinese ports on the South China Sea than the multiple ports around the US. Closing the South China Sea would also quickly close down of good portion of Chinese industry.
Conclusion that the US is in a good strategic position vs. China – and that’s not counting its overwhelming superiority in deliverable nuclear weapons.
So the US may go for it – and count on Chinese capitulation (granting license to loot the place, the same as they did with Yeltsin’s Russia). The short term balance seems to favour the US.
Clarification:
When I say that “liberals will be hunted down and exterminated,” I do not mean “We will have revenge.”
I do not mean, “We will have sanity again.”
Quite the opposite.
I mean that as society collapses, the USA will go into panic mode. Average Americans will be concerned only with getting food. Any trans-mutant, butt cowboy, or black criminal that stands in their way will be slaughtered and eaten, not because of morality, but because of hunger.
This is not optimism. It is simple logic.
In all cases throughout history, the masses submit to any abuse until they begin to starve. There are many reasons for revolts, but the trigger is always hunger. When food becomes unavailable or too expensive, the masses revolt.
What really pushes people over the edge? What exactly makes people truly willing to risk their lives to revolt? What is the universal rule?
Answer: hunger. When average Americans cannot feed their own children, they will exterminate any “woke” maggot that stands between them and food.
The mob is fickle, and it turns instantly like a school of fish, or a large flock of birds.
Right now the mob supports trans excrement, feminist filth, and anal supremacy.
However the mob will reverse the instant it becomes truly hungry. It will devour whatever stands between it and food.
Jun 20, 2021 Joe Biden ‘struggled to even communicate’ amid ‘clear cognitive issues’
Joe Biden “clearly has cognitive issues” and recently “struggled to even communicate” when talking about Russian President Vladimir Putin, says Sky News host Sharri Markson.
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Apr 22, 2021 Russia launches Crimean exercises on Ukraine border in a show of force
Russia launched major military exercises in Crimea on Thursday under the personal supervision of Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu as part of a show of force on Ukraine’s southern border that has prompted intense concern in Kyiv and the West.
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I think what you mean is that Capitalism treats Capital as a commodity in the same way it treats Labor as a commodity. Marxism also treats both Capital and Labor as commodities which are alienated from each other. That’s the fundamental flaw of both Capitalism and Marxism in that they treat both Capital and Labor as commodities, i.e, fungible objects that can be traded, bought or sold in a Market which serves as the mechanism to alienate both Capital and Labor from each other. Capitalism and Marxism form two sides of the same ‘Modernist’ coin as Capitalism pits Capital against Labor while Marxism pits Labor against Capital.
What’s missing is the role of both State and Society in the formation of Capital and the administration of Labor. As people live in a Society with their own Culture and participate as citizens of a Nation with their own History, it’s impossible to alienate either Capital and Labor from both State and Society.
Rhine Capitalism and the Nordic Model treats Labor as inalienable from Society by providing the Welfare State to take care of German and Nordic peoples, respectively. This German/Nordic form of Social Capitalism is very different from the Anglo-Saxon form of Laissez-Faire Market Capitalism which became the subject of Karl Marx’s critique Das Capital whose ideological solution does nothing to resolve the alienation of Labor by Capital but merely inverts the alienation by pitting the ‘Dictatorship of the Proletariat’ against Capital.
Confucianist Socialism and the East Asian Model treats Labor as inalienable from Society by providing not only the Welfare State to take care of Chinese and other East Asian peoples but also the Developmental State to create the economic opportunities for Chinese and other East Asian Enterprises. This East Asian Model differs from the Nordic Model in so far as the role of the State in the economic development of the Nation which is absent from the Nordic Model. In other words, the East Asian Model presupposes the moral duty of the State to create economic opportunities for the Nation as well as to provide for the social welfare of the people.
Putin is the only true statesman on the world stage, the others are gnomes, dwarfs and pedofiles and Putin knows that Russia can kick the ZUS ass if it ever comes to that, as Russia now faces a ZUS military that is LBGTQ subverted.
The US government borrows infinite dollars which are created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve based on the credit of the US government.
There fixed it for ya.
Diversity – like variety, opposite to uniformity
I mean coexistence of different ways of life and cultures on planet Earth, not within one city, as you misunderstood me. Diversity – that Chinese and Russians and Brits and Zulu are all different and live in their home countries with their own culture without being homogenised by Hollywood.
many russians live in israel. putin is fully aware of what happened to russia prior to the revolution, the war, the years after & the tragic rape. he has lifted russia from despair to now being the supreme military in the world, & the people once more proud & protected. russia has a bright future. putin has aligned russia with china, iran & the axis of resistance. patience is key. all will come to pass. putin doesn’t have to challenge or take on israel, the axis will do that when the time comes. putin will continue to bring reason & work to deliver justice & well being in ways the us can no longer fathom. there is a new world dawning & putin understands his task is to avoid nuclear war, if he can manage that all else will fall into place. @ this point all russians know nato/israel are not agreement capable. this is the foundation of all negotiations.
I’m with you there, moi.
I keep hearing from Putin and Co that Russia has ‘great relations’ with Israel. Well, we all know that great relations with Israel means you basically let Israel do what it wants, or you do not have ‘great relations’ with Israel. Israel respects no one. The downing of the Russian surveillance plane in Syria by Israel proved that beyond dispute. Turkey got its economic ass handed to it when they downed the Russkie plane along their border at the beginning of Russia’s involvement in Syria. And that was for one single pilot being killed. What punishment did Putin mete out to Israel for killing around a dozen highly trained surveillance specialists in cold blood? Nada. Why, he even publicly backed Netanyahu in his election bid a few cycles ago.
Israel’s power comes mostly from money and blackmail. Putin has no need for zionist money. But there is this: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna13743946
Ask yourself a simple question: what would you think if Creepy Joe Biden, while on the campaign trail, had grabbed a young girl’s blouse, pulled it up to her nipples and began uncontrollably smooching the young child’s stomach? And then said afterward, that she was so cute he wanted to ‘squeeze her like a kitten’?
I want to believe in Putin on so many levels, and I still do, I will admit. But many things about him leave me confused and concerned…..
Bidet and Blinking as “Jackals”?
Yeah, I can go with that. ‘Clowns’ is too nice, actually. Kids love funny clowns.
But these two clowns are no laughing matter at all…..
The US still has ‘trainers’ in Ukraine, is selling/giving them weapons, no?
Since USA has been imposing sanctions and embargos on so many countries it would only be fair that these countries respond in kind. Considering how much evil and mischief USA has done in the world they deserve sanctions and embargos more than anyone else. Indeed it would be interesting to see USA under a global embargo, or even a partial one, including seizures of USA’s overseas assets – the sort of thing it does to others.
The pussy president of the USA has his legs crossed like the little girl that he is.
The man president has his legs spread like he is challenging the pussy!
That photo says it all.
The rest is just filler. Biden could not offer anything because as a pussy he’s just a puppet.
Putin ruled the roost.
Blinken pissed around in the shit at the bottom of the cage…as useless wankers always do…
Thank you, Mr. Shamir. Always lucid, always fair.
Just ‘maybe’ the vaccine drive is because: a) the Delta is dangerously deadly, and b) vaccines save lives, even of those who are not convinced, or of the people they have contact with. I understand those two simple truths are hard to grasp for anti-vax ideologues. That is their own problem entirely.
As we know government the world over always has our best interests at heart and only the smartest, most honest, moral individuals are in charge. They’d never do anything out of greed or stupidity. The swine flu vaccine fail of the 1970s never happened, thalidomide never happened, they really know their stuff. It must be nice to have the heart of a child and trust those in charge. I’m going with the scientists who have made well reasoned arguments against the gene therapy experiment. My ancestors survived the bubonic plague, the black death, smallpox and barbarian invasion. We’ll see what happens.
The Russian plane was shot down by Syrian forces albeit while defending against an Israeli attack, Putin’s response as I recall was to give Syria the S300 system.
The WuFlu vaxxes are so safe, in America big pharma has been given indemnity by big gov.
Antibeast, your comments are always well formed and thoughtful.
Instead of saying, “I think what you mean,” try this: Do you mean to say?
When you use the phrase “I think what you mean” is putting words in somebody’s mouth, which they may not have meant. It is a form of false logic, which I don’t believe was your intent.
The term fungibility is not something that average people think about, hence my attempt to make things simple and understandable.
When money transfers beyond a nation’s borders, it is in error and outside of one of the iron laws. The iron law is that all money at source is law. A sovereign nation state cannot extend its law beyond its borders. One of the impulses for empire is to extend the law, and to use force/war, to then impose debts on “others.”
Anything beyond the border is international law. Ergo, any money circulating beyond a nation’s border is to be something other than national money, e.g. dollars, or Yuans, etc. Instead an international money is required, something like Keynes Bancor, or Gold -Flow.
Or, reduce international trade to movement of goods only and keep national money sequestered to trading banks as Schacht did in NSDAP Germany.
I’m not seeing too much difference between the Kaiser’s model (Copied from the American System) and your claims about Confucianist Socialism and the East Asian Model.
National Socialist Germany did all the things you are claiming for the East Asian Model. State credit was injected into the commons, industry, and into schools, public health, etc.
Do you mean what is missing is the “proper role” of both the State and Society. There is always a a role for the State in society. The Anglo-Saxon model is basically finance capitalism, which tells lies. The big lie is that national money is fungible, that it can be transmitted beyond a nation’s borders.
This big lie is also behind “Economic Hitman” tactics as described by Perkins. A comprador elite in South America will stick a dollarized debt hook into the mouth of its citizens, meanwhile the dollars that spun off of the debt instead channel into elite pockets. The future cannot pay the dollarized debts, and then the country is harvested and transferred to Wall Street.
We are generally in high agreement, but be careful to not put words in other people’s mouths.
‘Clown show’ may have been too generous.
‘Shit show’ seems more appropriate, now that I think about it.
Thanks for the reply.
I saw a photo of Putin sitting at the same table as that cow.
I couldn’t help wondering what Putin must have thought of that.
Here was the very skank who imperiously and unilaterally decided who the president of Ukraine was to be, (Jewish banker) after spending five billion tax payer dollars to promote “democracy” in Ukraine.
For four years we heard nothing but ‘Putin is subverting our democracy! and ‘hacking our elections!’
All horse shit of course. And exactly the thing that the ZUS was actually doing to Russia. Alongside sending weapons to the leaders of the anti-Russian coup it had installed in Kiev, fomenting wars on Russia’s borders, and generally acting like an international asshole on the world’s stage.
And then they plop that rancid cow at the same table as Putin.
I wonder if John McBloodstain were still be-fouling the planet (rather than happily rotting in its dirt), if they’d have sat that rat at the table with Putin.
ZOG’s statecraft is as nuanced as a taking a shite on your living room rug.
God help us, the world has no idea how grateful it should be that a true and great statesman like Vlad Putin exists. A man like him comes once in a century, if you’re lucky.
Yes, you are absolutely correct, the Israelis used their plane to draw the fire of the Syrian batteries, and then got the hell out of there before the impact, leaving the Russkies to get the hit and die in flames. Terribly cowardly, and 100% planned in advance. With friends like that……..
As for the S-300s, apparently the Russians have very heavy strings attached, such that they are simply not employed to stop the Israelis in their strikes on the supposed Iranian targets in Syria, and really seem more to protect the Russian forces from ever getting nailed again like that. A ‘gift’ with such ‘strings’ attached, is really no ‘gift’ at all. But Syria is doing pretty well anyway with the older Russian equipment they have, and have repelled many of the missile attacks from Israel anyway. (But it sure would be nice for once to unleash the power of the S-300 on the actual Israeli jets launching the missiles, rather than trying to stop the missile barrage, which, sadly, allows some to get through and kill/maim/destroy with seeming impunity.)
But let me be quite clear: what the Russians have done in Syria with so little hardware and men, is simply stunning, and Syria owes its continued existence as a viable state to the intervention of Russia, and of course, an even greater debt of gratitude to the Iranian and Hezbollah forces protecting Syria, as well. Iran and Hezbollah have lost many, many good men fighting for Syria, and like Russia, are owed a debt of gratitude that the Syrian people and their leadership warmly acknowledge.
Thanks for a nice reply!
Cheers!
“The Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov proposed to set up negotiations for the whole of the MENA (Middle East – North Africa) area, including Syria and Libya.”
For the whole…?! Who the fuck are all these vermin?
Whitevil scum of the earth and their imperialist shenanigans… and I certainly don’t mean only those loser slavoids, as the quote above seems to imply. I mean, all of them.
Now, what is it about whitevils which make these animals such necrophiliacs? For just the most recent example, consider the following…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57592243
Children!!
Every whitevil who subscribes to such satanic supremacy (and many such vermin here) must pay most dearly for the evil their accursed forebears and their current peers have caused.
I pray their much deserved comeuppance is suitably horrific for all the death, destruction and suffering of billions around the world, caused by these animals.
If you spent 22 years in the RN, why do you use Yankee spelling?
Insane. INSANE. I no longer care what happens to the US government. KILL IT. Russia, China, Argentina, someone, anyone, everyone! Destroy it totally. Then nuke Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
Certainly it’s easy, especially easy to talk about on RU … and the USA could actually do it in the wink of an eye … the Pentagram has extensive and detailed plans to do just that, after they have wound up their victory parade in Afghan etc … the USMC is just itching to storm those beaches and liberate Taiwan, they reckon it will be a cake-walk …
Just like Mogadishu for example …
And the secret Pentagram plan, which you must keep it to yourself, Miro, because an obviously veteran strategist like you knows that loose lips sink ships, is — the USA will set up a Global Ma-Jongg Tournament and their experts know that Chinese are addicted to Ma-Jongg, even prizes of a week in Disneyland, how can the Chinese resist ? And while they’re hooked on the M-J, America will strike with … full force.
This strategy has all the brilliant American military minds that have achieved such success and made the US forces so irresistable … Gen Westmoreland, Coalin Powell, Insane McCain, MadDog Mattis … it’s a cert, just can’t fail.
All over by Christmas, you can count on it.
The explanation is that, along with a fresh diaper, Biden gets a big cocaine suppository before important occasions. While the wondrous drug temporarily clears some of the mush from his decaying brain, the effect wears off fairly quickly. His handlers must then put a “lid” on the day, as we have seen so many times.
Hopium is bad for your mental health. Seek treatment immediately for your addiction.
It appears that Russia and China are still just reacting to hostile foreign personalities and their actions rather than developing the mindset of controlling the hostiles and curtailing the hostiles’ activity. One wonders when, if ever, the Russians and the Chinese will summon the courage to form a proper united front against The Evil Empire.
They need to inform US ambassadors bluntly that the USA is going home unconditionally. Since Americans are childish, obstinate people, it would be helpful to provide them with a project plan explaining all of the steps of the withdrawal of the United States of America from Asia and its littoral waters. Just developing such a plan would be a good step forward toward cultivating the resolute commitment to chasing the USA out of the eastern hemisphere. Another good step forward would be to abandon the United Nations to the ZOGs. That would leave three rotting countries—France, the UK, and the USA—on the Security Council.
So what’s getting in the way? In the case of Russia, I suspect that Putin’s mind is a colony of the sons of Israel. So he does not comprehend the existential threat to all of Asia posed by the sons and their ZOGs.
China, on the other hand, does not have in its territory a toxic presence of rabbis comparable to that in Russia. Nor does China have the crippling legacy of a national religion which is, at bottom, a slavish fawning over a Semitic supremacist. However, the Public Property Party hangs a great poster or painting of Marx over the stage at its party congresses or something like that. So once again, we find colonized minds where, instead, the situation calls for sovereign thinking. Like Russia, China is a long way away from the end of its career as controlled opposition.
Is what the British did in the Crimea today June 24, 2021 considered unintentional or deliberate?
China could sell all of the U.S. bonds it holds and create havoc in the Treasury Market. First you will have massive inflation, then you will have a massive spike in interest rates. When rates go up the cost of government goes up. Serious belt tightening inf not collapse would be forced on the USA or it would suffer hyperinflation. Either way it would not be good.
As Mark U note I agree with just about everything else you say.
Golitsyn would have said this this the long-game of the Perestroika deception being played out. It has been argued that the Russian KGB repositioned themselves and their assets to take back over Russia after Perestroika/Glasnost played out. Simultaneously, U.S. overextended itself economically and militarily by thinking it was the unipolar power that won the Cold War. While this occurred the slow demoralization of the U.S. played out as the legacy of Soviet inspired Grampians took hold in the USA. And here we are. China Russia become stronger while giving the U.S. enough rope to hang itself.
I clearly substantiated my claim in other comments that I made above in this thread.
If your comment was meant to be witty, it failed.
What is it exactly you wish Russia had murdered a large number of your former colleagues for?
“But nothing especially bad happened to the Ukrainians. Instead of vaccination, they treat covid with Ivermectin, and their results are better than those in neighbouring (vaccinated) Poland.”
Are there any public data on this?
The attacks on ivermectin are intensifying.
The good new must be starting to get out.
I had to laff when I read Yasha Levine railing on about Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, and ivermectin, accusing them of being right-wing media trolls or some such nonsense.
It’s getting bad out there . . .
With respect, I disagree. Please let me explain…
First of all, the “national debt” is not to be confused with private debt like mortgages, car loans, student loans debt, credit card debt, and so on. Private debt is disastrous. It’s how bankers and financiers keep everyone in debt slavery.
The “national debt” is different. It is not a crisis. It is not a problem. It is simply money that people have deposited in Fed savings accounts by purchasing Treasury securities. This money is called a “debt” because it belongs to depositors. It is on loan to the Fed, and it has nothing to do with the US government’s ability to keep creating dollars out of thin air.
If you deposit $100 in a regular bank, then the bank is in debt to you for $100. Your deposited money is on loan to the bank. It’s the same when you deposit money with the Fed.
Put another way, a Treasury security is exactly the same as a Certificate of Deposit at a regular bank. You deposit an agreed-to amount of money for an agreed-to time, for an agreed-to rate of interest. Your money is on loan to the bank. At the end of the agreed-to term, the bank returns your money, plus interest. You can reclaim your money early from the bank, but you will forfeit the interest.
The Fed could “pay off” the national debt at any time, simply by giving depositors’ money back with interest, which the Fed would create out of thin air. However there is no need to do this, since the “national debt” is not a problem (unlike private debt, which keeps the masses in slavery).
Various investors have deposited $28 trillion in Fed savings accounts. About 4% of that money ($1.095 trillion) was deposited by China. That money belongs to China. If China sold all its Treasury securities, this would have no effect on the securities market, and no effect on the “national debt.” China’s securities would simply change owners, and China would walk away with $1.095 trillion, denominated in dollars or in some other currency. China has no need to do this.
What would crash the securities market is if the US government tries to confiscate China’s $1.095 trillion that sits in Fed savings accounts. The whole reason why people deposit money with the Fed is that people’s deposits are absolutely guaranteed, since the Fed can never run out of dollars. If the Fed fails to honor its commitments, and starts to confiscate money, then all Fed stability will be lost. All trust in the Fed will be lost. Game over.
China understands all this. Indeed, one reason why Westerners are slaves of Jews and bankers is that most Westerners refuse to understand money and banking. They refuse to understand how Jews and bankers control the scoreboard.
China does not refuse.
The following is a true story…
When I was about five years old, I saw my father reading a newspaper. As he perused an article, he said something that I was too young to understand.
“Ha” he said with a chuckle. “The only person a Jew can’t cheat is a Chinaman!”
From the minute he stole the election I said “every world leader will shun him because they all know this could happen to them.”
He is the scourge on the world stage and this will only increase.
He and the whore from San Francisco will be ejected by March 3, 2022.
Even the old boyfriend who stole two elections in CA for her said about VP “Don’t do it”
Because Willie Brown is a pro and he knew what they were going to do and how this would end for her.
Nothing is “deposited” at the Fed, the money is spent by the government on their favorite pet projects and wars. “Purchasing Treasury securities” becomes banana republic money printing when the Fed monetizes the debt. It’s even worse than that, but let’s stop here, these alone guarantee a crisis, it’s not far off.
Sir,
diversity is the spice of life, as variety was given to mankind by Providence – taste and see that the Lord is good! declared Saint David the king of Israel. Psalm 33 (34):8.
the problem is when mischief makers take an idea from one subject and apply it to where it does not, should not belong. Einstein’s relativity about motions applied to morality brought barbarity. diversity of opinion was turned into gender confusion. it’s endless …
everyone says he has a right to do whatever. This is a false right as no one willed himself into existence. we belong to Him Who created us in His own image. (Genesis/Bereshit) therefore, we have an obligation to obey our Maker. in modern speak, the Almighty has a right to be worshipped!
ps. was there a remote chance the two Christian leaders discussed about the ongoing genocide against Christians all over the world? pardon my naivete.
https://www.yonkerstribune.com/2021/05/biden-we-will-speak-out-for-religious-freedom-for-all-muslim-people-by-raymond-ibrahim
In one sense you are correct. Money is not “deposited” at the Fed, since money is not physical. Nor is money “deposited” in any bank. Dollars, like points on a scoreboard, are 100% mental entities with no physical existence. “Money” is a system of ledgers. We can represent money with numbers and symbols, just as we can represent points in a scoreboard with numbers. But the numbers and symbols are not dollars or points.
Therefore we humans speak of money figuratively.
When I buy a Treasury security, my money is said to be “on deposit” at the Fed. It’s the same with my money in regular banks.
If you have never bought a T-security, then all of this will be new to you.
Meanwhile the money spent by the U.S. government on wars and pet projects is separate from Fed operations.
.. and Putin wants as many of the 1M of them as possible to stay there.
As the Israeli Zionists’ primary backer inevitably withdraws into its domestic troubles, they’ll find themselves in an untenable position and another Diaspora will begin.
A rump Israel populated largely by Russian, mostly secular Jews (and maybe quite a few non-jewish expat Russians) with a much subdued Zionist imperative could make peace with its neighbours and serve well as an unsinkable aircraft carrier for Russian forces to guarantee stability while the M.E. re-writes its security calculus.
In addition to their Syrian & (possible) Sudan bases, the Russians are developing ties with Egypt and Libya. Turkey will fall in place, and Greece is also open to cooperation. Add to all that a strong foothold in the former Israel, and Russia cements itself in place as not only guarantor of security in the Eastern Med and across the M.E., but as arbiter of the flow of Eurasia’s energy.
In short, Russia has many parallel interests in keeping warm ties with Israel.
You were caught lying about Israel downing a Russian airplane in the same comment where you tried to smear Putin with insituations. You need some more training, it was too obvious.
Government debt is not a deposit, it is not people bringing their money to the bank for safekeeping, it is the government going out asking for money by offering interest, i.e. it is a deficit entity requesting loans from surplus entities to spend on basic needs such as paying salaries, paying benefits, funding wars. Also, fiat currency does not mean that money can be printed at will out of thin air. They don’t know how much money they can create that way in the current circumstances so they keep printing but they will find out quite soon what were the limits.
Yeeaaah but those unlimited dollars will run out of value.
OK. Sorry about that.
But let me elaborate further on what I mean by the ‘alienation’ of Labor from Capital which Marx wrote in Das Capital. During the first Industrial Revolution in England, Labor was indeed ‘alienated’ from Capital which came from the British financial capitalists who had amassed their Capital from the African slave trade. That money was made by ‘monetizing’ the lifetime value of African slave labor treated as a fungible object or commodity which was later invested in the cotton textile mills in England. Note how the fungibility of those monies which entered the London Stock Market became Capital ‘alienated’ from Labor. That Capital was the by-product of African slave labor in the Americas which was then deployed to exploit or ‘alienate’ (in Marx’s term) the Labor of the English Working Class as documented by Engels during the first Industrial Revolution in England. In other words, White Labor in England was also treated as a fungible object or commodity in the same way that Black Labor in the Americas was in that they were both ‘alienated’ or exploited by Capital, the former in the cotton textile mills in England while the latter in the cotton plantations in the American South.
In Germany, Bismarck embarked on a very different model for the second Industrial Revolution which was based on investing in the Social Capital of the German people. That meant the creation of the Welfare State to provide for the social welfare of the Germany people, technical universities to instill technical knowledge amongst German workers, banking/financial Institutions to channel State Capital for public works and industrial enterprises, etc. The fundamental difference between Bismarck’s Rhine Capitalism and England’s Anglo-Saxon Capitalism is the role of both State and Society in the Industrial Economies of Germany and England during their respective phases of the Industrial Revolution. Even to this day, the Germany Industrial Economy is powered by the German Mittelstand which consists of family-owned mid-sized companies and SMEs as shown in the graph below:
In summary, both Capital and Labor were ‘alienated’ from each other during England’s first Industrial Revolution without either the State or Society playing any role in the Market. In contrast, Bismarck’s Rhine Capitalism created the Welfare State to benefit German Society while investing in public works and Social Capital to benefit German Industry. In other words, Germany’s model of the second Industrial Revolution did not alienate either Capital or Labor from each other as the German State played the key role in creating the Welfare State to benefit German Society as well as to channel State Capital for public works and Social Capital for technical universities to benefit German Industry. The German Mittelstand represents German Social Capital which forms the backbone of the German Industrial Economy to this day.
Yeah, I read your substantiation. Not impressive. So, when will liberals “be hunted down and exterminated”? Your reply:
Those average Americans, so called, are not members of the fickle mob supporting various degeneracies. You described the latter people as a school of fish and a flock of birds which will reverse direction when they become hungry. These, you insisted, will wipe out the “maggots” even through the maggots are part of the mob and carrying water for the mob.
Now let’s think about those average Americans, whatever that means. Why wouldn’t they go on a rampage against the supply chains which extend from farms to markets? As many kooks are fond of saying, they have “all the guns”.
Except that they don’t have all the guns, and they won’t. Supply chains from farms to big cities, where Caucasians are minorities, will be protected very well through government intimidation and ultraviolence, and our liberals control institutions with the muscle and the tools needed. Take for example an urban militia called the Chicago Police Department. Whom, exactly, do you think its employees serve and protect? The war department on the Potomac is awakening [heh], and the generals and admirals will know which divisions, platoons, etc. are woke enough to cooperate with woke factions of the “National” Guard. We can be sure that they will be remain well fed. With full bellies, they can be put to use against “average Americans”, as you may conceive of them, and Bipartians will not hesitate to do so.
You need to understand also that the notion of “average Americans” is itself dubious. It’s anchored too much in the demographics of a day that’s receding into the distant past. Given the low birth rates of so-called heritage Americans and vast replacement migration and colonization during the past 110 years, you ought to think instead of average subsaharan Americans, average Latin American Americans, average Caucasian Americans, average Islamic Americans, average urban Americans, average bootlicker Americans, and so on. Caucasian Americans comprise about 70% of the population, and maybe half of these are Democrats, “Progressives”, etc. Most of the rest are conquered, scattered, delusional people.
Pentagon Insider Warns Joe Biden Against ‘Major War’ With China in Open Letter
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-insider-warns-joe-biden-against-major-war-with-china-in-open-letter/ar-AALp0pU?ocid=msedgntp
This is familiar story, rejection/suppression of information or opinion, followed by accusation of guilt by association. TPTB are well practiced at keeping their audience herd in the fold.
Excellent catch – and I bet you’re right. I recall when the US needed Arabic speaking translators for interrogating Iraqis following the Invasion, Israelis were used since they had long experience in doing this and were far from squeamish. Only trouble was their translations could at times be quite creative – and you knew where the transcripts were bound to end up.
If Russia did that, Johnson would call out all the fireships in HM Navy’s to sail out to deal with those Russians once and for all.
Still on the subject of leaky translators at the summit I might add that, since the majority of Russian speakers in the US are Jewish (remember the huge “Russian” influx of the late 1970s – Sakhaov’s delightful inlaws, taking refuge from persecution?), it’s predictable that they will be available to serve. This may help to explain why most Americans and Canadians have such a poor opinion of “Russians”.
Apparently the Russians dunnit already six and a half years ago:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/11/gary-north/russian-plane-disabled-us-warships-missile-defense-system/
BoJo is the type of Imperial imbecile who imagines that he can recreate the Crimean War, and lead the New Charge of the Light Brigade himself.
Establishment of the CoDominion?