Agreed. Nothing good can come from the District Of Corruption. Separation is the ONLY way forward.

The Republicans have totally blown a slam-dunk midterm election with their idiotic total abortion ban rhetoric and the ignorance by many voters that the SC ruling was about state control. Those states are full of women who are totally pissed off and will punish the “team red”. They should support the 15-week window for legal abortion and try to make it national, but they won’t. You don’t take back a legal Right after it has been in effect for 40 odd years just before national legislative elections. DUH!

Hey, why do you like killing babies so much? Are you Satan, aka “the prince of the world�? Let me know!

everytime I read/hear/watch the news …I wonder did the GOP went out an conducted a survey to find out the best talking points to LOSE the midterms. The GOP seems choosing those campaign issues that DEMs/Soros/Deeptate want them to pursue. The GOP ignores the winning issues for Youngkin in VA, DeSantis in FL, Abbot in TX, lake in AZ.. The GOP is not worried about losing they are worried about winning which they dont want. The GOP/Rinocrats have completely abandoned Fiscal responsability, the Afghanistan Withdrawal and the 13marines killed, the CRT, skyhigh inflation 10%+, high foodprices, housing crisis, homelesness, crime ridden cities, gas prices, drag queen schools, lgbt sexual mutilations, the Ucranian Bail out, and WORST of all the illegal unconstitutional J6 committee/ and its political gulags in DC, lastly the illegal/unconstitutional Mar/a/Lago Raid..thats the DEms spitting on your face and daring the GOP to do something about it. The Roe/Wade decision did not END abortions in America it send it bacak to the states..the GOP has embraced the whole WOKE agenda. The GOP lost in Alaska, GA, because of outside millions, and dem mobs that voted illegally, along with UNcertified Mail Ballots, in the Red strongholds..announcing thinsg to come. And the GOP just bent over and took IT..In his last speech Biden the healer openly declared WAR (civil) on Trumpism/MAGA…so the next election are NOT GOP vrs DEMs.. it is MAGA/RED America vrs WOKE RINOCRATS

GOP voters are just as idiotic as D voters. Both are like dogs in heat. No matter how many times they get f***ed they roll over and beg for more.

Just remember what George Carlin said: “If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let you do it”

Too many Republicans have befallen a form of mass formation psychosis regarding the worshipping of the fetuses of strangers. It is truly bizarre.

But, when you dissect the actual (attempted) arguments Repub citizens make regarding a woman’s right to manage, or end, a pregnancy you find their “views” aren’t really about the potential baby.

No, it’s far more about obnoxious virtue signaling, hoping their stance will help get them into heaven and wanting to shame women for having sex (and blaming her entirely for an unintended pregnancy. While a sage statement I read last year declared, “all unintended pregnancies are a result of irresponsible ejaculation”. Now, isn’t that the truth?)

It’s the evangelical “Christian” ministers and powerbrokers, who control the craniums and influence the voting of alot of their brethren, that put the screws to the Repub Party a few decades ago and have forced the issue high on the R’s list.

But, there is no actual upside for the R party if a great many states almost entirely outlaw abortion access. So, if there’s ever a perfect example of, “Be careful what you wish for” …this is it.

I’ve come to feel that what is happening is inevitable. If you look at history, you can see nations often go through cycles in which they start off as poor, become wealthy, the wealth leads to decadence, the decadence leads to decline , the decline leads back to poverty. While they are declining some other nation is often rising. Why would the U.S. be exempt from that?

There’s a saying, “don’t put all your eggs in one basket”. I’ll still vote but also take nonpolitical actions. There is still an occasional political victory for freedom such as the Supreme Court blocking national Covid vaccine mandates but not enough political victories to reverse things.

A book I like is How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Browne. Harry says the government can’t really control the entire population because there are too many of us and the government is incompetent. Harry quips that in the future the government will have a TV camera in every room to watch us but most of the TV cameras won’t work. I’ve worked for the military for 40 years and most people don’t have any idea how incompetent they are. A lot of people were surprised by the bungled Afghanistan withdrawal, but I wasn’t surprised at all.

The Republicans have totally blown a slam-dunk midterm election with their idiotic total abortion ban rhetoric and the ignorance by many voters that the SC ruling was about state control.

Agreed, though I would add that the voters’ ignorance on the topic has been carefully cultivated by the MSM, as is their usual practice.

Ilana Mercer is full of BS inherited from her South Africa’s cesspool of apartheid, where a few millions White European extremists ruled over more than 30 millions defenceless native Black people. Mercer should bury her head in the sand and stops opening her mouth.

Why should I give up part of my country to the defectives? They don’t grow anything or make anything. They will never leave the productive ones alone. They live in cities that are doomed relics of 19th Century technology. Las Vegas and 6-Flags will soon have theme parks called “Downtown”. The urban cores will be dumping grounds for the useless. “Secession” is for fools.

Worry about the swarm of “Illegals”. Compton, California is the model. That municipality was ~100% Black with ~100 homicides/murders per year. Then a mostly Illegal Hispanic population (and their gangs) were allowed to settle that wasteland. The Hispanic gangs drove the Black gang-bangers into other nearby ghettos. Profit for the property owners and grift for the pols.

Except most American cities are not one large ghetto like Los Angeles. Most cities are surrounded by functioning suburban and rural communities. When the Illegals drive the ghetto people out of the cities, guess who will be your new neighbor.

That is a reason that they want to restrict firearms amongst the “normies”. If people defend themselves and their families, it might disrupt the cleansing of the cities and all the profit and grift that will come from the new population of the Illegals. If you try to secede, they will make the ghetto population a parting gift.

If you want to ever sleep again, fix the Woke/Ghetto problem, or start putting bars over your windows and doors.

America reminds me of a dead but massive tree that I was trying to topple, this summer. It was surrounded by other massive trees in a forest, so when I cut it down, it didn’t fall, but merely leaned against other large trees. It was a danger to anyone walking a path on my land, so I kept trying unsuccessfully to topple it, throughout the summer, without it falling on myself. I first cut segments of it off at the base, with a chain saw, but every cut caused it to fall down six feet or so, in an unpredictable direction, but always then leaning in a different direction against the healthy trees around itself. Every cut was a danger to myself, so I attached a thick cable to pull it down with a come-along, but it didn’t budge it, even with many thousands of pounds of torsion on the cable. A few days ago, I finally figured out a safe way to cut it, by leaving it with a 90% cut that would allow me to use the torsional cable to break the segment off to fall in a predicable direction. After three of these cuts, it fell. Its mass was so large, it just shook the ground.

America is much like this dangerous dead and massive leaner tree. Nobody wants it to fall, but it’s a rotten leaner, harming the trees it leans against and risking people. When it does fall, as all rotten aged trees must eventually fall, it mass is so great, it will shock everyone with its fall.

Ilana Mercer certainly values her privacy. Internet searches won’t discolose her age, and unless the search is extended, her religion. Her daddy was a Rabbi who had to leave South Africa because of his anti-apartheid preaching and activism. Daughter Mercer takes a somewhat different view, opposing only “petty” apartheid. She’s quite OK with Big Apartheid.
Don’t Believe Michelle Obama
https://www.ilanamercer.com/2011/06/don-t-believe-michelle-obama/

The Apartheid-era, traditionally Western legal institutions, however flawed, were preferable to the Rambo Nation’s “rehabilitated� institutions, riven as they are by tribal feuds, fetishes, and factional loyalties.

Dirty, stupid and dangerous N*ggers of Africa just aren’t capable of Democracy.

South African born Canadian citizen Mercer is a great cheerleader for US racism.

Yes, Robert E. Lee was a great American.

Praised these days by the blonde-ambition faction of the Republican Party, the Radicals were stars of America’s own Reign of Terror over the South, at the end of the War Between the States.

The woman is stroking modern white peckerheads. She has many essays praising Whiteness. And of course damning the dirty, stupid, and dangerous N*ggers.

That’s the picture heading the article with this marvelous remark:

Thus, theoretically, “Women have the right to screw and scrape out their insides to their heart’s content.� With a proviso: Americans who oppose abortion must be similarly respected in their rights of self-ownership. Taxpayers who oppose the procedure ought to have an equal right to dispense of what is theirs—their property—in accordance with the dictates of their conscience.

Yes, Mercer equates the right to have an abortion to the right not to pay taxes of any kind. A Libertarian Nutcase argument, but it works well in her present employment.

My growing suspicions about this author were confirmed when I read her glowing report of the way the White refugees (from the evil Russians) of Ukraine were faring.

Those fleeing and those welcoming them with open arms are all almost exclusively of the same Slavic European racial groups, sharing similar habits, habitat, and history. It’s both natural and easy to welcome people so like you into your midst. For their part, grateful Ukrainians are already begging their benefactors not for handouts but for . . . jobs. Clearly, in homogeneous, smaller societies, the trust quotient and fellow feeling among people is high.

Ah, but what a nice change – wonderful White People who just want jobs!

The Apartheid state wanted the destruction of Iraq, Libya, and Syria, and is now refusing to allow the NATO project of destroying Russia to end.

I see Mercer as a professional agitator/propagandist, and very probably a Hero of the shithole state. Her work is to destabilize the US so the Zionists can more easily attain their goals. Keeping us at each other’s throats can work wonders that way.

Britain’s Iron Lady Mrs Thatcher is not a good baseline for measuring the decline of female political leaders because she almost certainly had Asperger’s Syndrome which meant that her brain resembled that of a neurotypical male brain rather than the NT female brain.

Also being Aspie her faculties of Will and Understanding were tightly entwined and so long as her Understanding was not shown to be wrong then her Will was the typical unyielding iron will that many Aspies (of either sex) manifest. Thus all the emotional protests and displays of outrage at her policies were like water off a duck’s back.

You suck. If you love abortion so much, go be a liberal.

Too many people forget that the “Dissident Right� is still supposed to be on the right.

Ilana Mercer: “… both the progressive ego in the anchor’s chair (Lemon) and the rightist intellectual (Hanson) are acolytes of the secession-sundering Church of Lincoln.”

There’s another “Church of Lincoln” on the right, and Thomas DiLorenzo, to whom you link, is one of its founders. Just like Paul Craig Roberts, let’s note that he’s an ECONOMIST, not an historian, who by artfully and selectively quoting Lincoln, deceives many into thinking that Lincoln was a hard-core racist who desperately wanted to deport all the negroes, didn’t favor making them citizens or giving them the vote, and that the Civil War had nothing to do with ending slavery, but was only fought to preserve the Union. All of that is completely false.

The absurd crusade by so-called “conservatives” like PCR and DiLorenzo to rehabilitate Lincoln in the eyes of the racial right is borne of the same bizarre racial masochism that leads Republicans to defend the embryos of the non-whites who are replacing them. There isn’t much that is more ridiculous than a white racist who has a high opinion of Lincoln, yet there are a lot of them. Lincoln, regarded by many as the greatest Republican, was every bit as much an enemy of the white race as any non-white, and did more to make America into the multi-racial stew pot it is today than any other American president. The Republican party was conceived as the anti-slavery party, and their current love of the enemy’s embryos is only a replay of their nineteenth century love of negroes. They haven’t changed at all; still anti-white after all these years They are true Christians who have that characteristic Christian need to abase themselves and prove their virtue by loving their racial enemies.

Informal secession is fine.

Just as long as n0body gets the boneheaded idea of dusting off “state’s rights” again.

We do not have 50 state capitals, we have 50 mini-Washingtons. At any signal to tighten the screws on their own people not one of the 50 will resist the temptation. Despite showing a bit of spark now and then over trifles they are no better than the Federal and my guess is they envy them.

Why don’t you call both parties treasonous and demand their proscription? Call anyone a traitor who votes for either party and demand new parties that will adhere to some basic concepts of constitutionality to be written out.

Any candidate for any office who will not submit to these constitutional principles is a traitor whether within or without office. It is time to constantly work to delegitimize both parties. People should come to think it an embarrassment to vote for either and search for or create alternatives.

As it is America’s parties treat the public like dirt. This point should be made and often. If the people are sovereign then they are very much king. These politician’s attitude amounts to lese-majesty and must be rebuked. The matter is no longer just of elections. Criminal politicians must be challenged and brought down by whatever means are available in whatever forums or situations invite and permit action.

Revolution would be nice, but the government still has a powerful army. Other means to make politicians fear the people must be found. The first step is for the people to convince themselves they need to be feared. The second step is to bring that fear home to office seekers of all stripes.

Completely agree, 100%.

Excellent points, all.

I was shocked to see how quickly the “conservative red states� made abortion under any circumstances nearly impossible. During my career I worked with quite a number of females who had the misfortune to become the victims of sexual violence, both at the hands of strangers as well as friends and family members. In many of these “conservative� states, the circumstances of a pregnancy resulting from sexual violence no longer matter; abortion is not a legal option.

I have also noted that in these “pro-family,â€� “pro-lifeâ€� states, the laws concerning health insurance are crafted so that it’s legal to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions – often written by the same anti-abortion zealots in state legislatures. So if a woman discovers her baby would be born with Downs’ Syndrome or another deformity and would rather end the pregnancy, tough luck – not an option. But when the newborn turns out to require specialized, lifelong medical treatments or has other expensive medical needs? Again tough luck, because insurance companies say “your problem, not ours. Not paying you a cent.â€�

It amazes me how many people I know fall for this issue’s emotional appeals without ever bringing reason to bear. I am nobody in America but in my own circle, I increasingly feel like I am the last one exercising a sound mind when the issues come to the fore.

I guess “abortion is a sacrament of the Jewish religion,” as they themselves say. It’s kinda weird this urge to kill fetuses in the womb.

Ms. Mercer mentions “Big Pharma”, but does she know that they have a lucrative business with fetuses – i.e. fetal stem cells for all kind of medicines, cosmetics, vaccines, not to mention treatments to “increase longevity”?

This is what the real story about fetuses and “abortion rights” is about, but no one discusses that.

But of course the abortion issue is artificially used, like many other things, to divide people against party lines. In general, it shouldn’t be an issue. Just make it illegal and tell sluts to shut it.

You won’t get away with voting; the US is run by a single party divided into two teams pretending to be opposites.

Elections, which so many people are passionate about, are a sham.

In every US election campaign the same comedy is played:
– “Ohhh, Democrats are pure evil, vote Republican. ”
– “Ohhh, Republicans are pure evil, vote Democrat. ”
– “Ohhh, don’t vote third party, you risk losing the Democrats (or the Republicans) and that would be disastrous; vote usefully. ”

In every election many disgruntled former Democratic (or Republican) voters vote Republican (or Democrat) hoping that it will change.

But nothing changes, it’s even worse every time because these two fake opponents are pursuing the same agenda.

In every election, US voters fall into the trap.

So, vote for a third party, whatever it may be, without worrying about the end result.

I.M.: “Even if the GOP sweeps both chambers, in November 2022, and nets the presidency in 2024, as it did in 2016, nothing much is likely to change for you and me.

I.M.: “every Republican president since and including Herbert Hoover has increased the federal government’s size, scope or power—and usually all three. Include regulations and foreign policy, as well as budgets approved by a Republican Congress, and a picture begins to emerge of the Republican Party as a reliable engine of government growth.�

Its all just about the tried and true “good cop /bad cop” routine. The Repubs supposedly being the “good” cops. A scam, or a farce, no less.

We’re now all supposed to vote for “the lesser of two evils”, ie Republican socialism , falsely labelled as “free market capitalism” [what a joke], instead of the more “in yer face” full on Democrat socialism/communism.

No one on either “side” ever even talks about an across-the-board, overnight shrinking of the federal government back to its original constitutional limits, as Harry Browne indeed did way back in 1996 and 2000, least of all any Republican windbag. https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn’t_Work

Song verse:

“This governments grown too big for its boots
We’ve got to cut it back down, back down to the roots
Its taken most all of our freedoms away
There ain’t much freedom left in the US today”

Chorus: “I’ve got to start me a new revolution
And get back to the old constitution
I’ve got to stand up and fight for the whole Bill of Rights
Its time to start over again”

From song: “New Revolution” :https://soundcloud.com/onebornfree/new-revolution-the-harry-browne-song-new-mix-081522-mix3

Regards, onebornfree

This author, originally from South Africa and the daughter of a prominent Rabbi, tries to blend in with the crowd. Those who dont know her background should dare to ask why never condemns/ed Israeli brutality towards Palestinians.
And she has the audacity to claim, in her writings, that Israel is a great democracy?
May be for white Jews.

Republicans are an arm of the UniParty
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BINGO – As for myself, I don’t only mean that I’m not going to vote anymore, but I’m going to campaign against anyone voting in these rotten, corrupt so-called “elections.”

Todd Beaner was an amazing white man. But he should’ve let them blow up the US Capital.

Like the moron who falls for the emotional appeal of the rape/incest line ignoring that far less than 1% of all abortions are performed for that reason.

The woman is stroking modern white peckerheads

Dr. Freud here, with some advice. People will assume from your unmanly attack that it stems from resentment toward beautiful women. What healthy man cares about their politics or ethnicity anyway? In the future, try not to embarrass yourself in the company of those white peckerheads who make you feel so inadequate by projecting the “stroking� that you do onto others.

The DNC is even better at helping Republicans: (1)

Backed by a blood-red background and two soldiers shrouded in darkness, the president condemned half the nation as insurrectionists who pose a “clear and present danger� to the United States.

The language was deliberate as it was divisive. “Clear and present danger� is a legal doctrine created by the Woodrow Wilson-era US Supreme Court to curtail the free speech of Americans. At the time, an antiwar activist was jailed for advocating draft resistance during World War I.

It almost like they are intentionally undermining Not-The-President Biden.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://instapundit.com/540395/

The optics alone of Biden’s speech are disastrous, making Biden look like John Hurt in V for Vendetta:

Video Link

Republican Strategy for Winning: Defend the Enemy’s Embryos

Excellent point.

The crypto-establishmentarians at Fox News are dissembling about the change that is a-coming. Even if the GOP sweeps both chambers, in November 2022, and nets the presidency in 2024, as it did in 2016, nothing much is likely to change for you and me.

Anyone who doesn’t understand that is doomed to failure and disappointment. This country is almost entirely under the control of the Deep State. By the end of this year, the goal will be all but completed.

Great, Ilana. You know all you need to know about the party of Lincoln and Grant when you remember that Gerald Ford refused to meet Solzhenitsyn.

Unbelievable. Mercer runs through a (true) litany of all the Uniparty’s errors, deceptions and crimes. But then she somehow concludes with siding with them on abortion, and scolding us on the victory.

Get tossed, Ilana. Is she just another shill in disguise?

LOL! “…the UK’s Iron Lady, the great Maggie Thatcher…” Give me a break. This is the great lady who insisted on pushing through a poll tax – house rates – leading to the UK now having some of the highest local tax-rates in the west; the great lady who first touted the ‘green’ agenda in order to crush the miners’ union – among others; the great lady who closed most of the coal mines in the UK – along with destroying all the jobs and infrastructure – and instead imported coal from low-cost, cheap-labour, overseas markets; the great lady who sold off all the essential utilities – water, gas, electric, rail – to the highest bidder and left the country and its people at the mercy of ‘the markets’, and now leaving the poor UK citizens with some of the most costly utility and transport bills in the west. Give me a break.

Donald Trumpstein = Nope
Guido DeIsraelis = Nope
Joe Biden or any other retard (((Democrat))) = Nope

The (((Uniparty))) is made up of crooks, lazy grifters who never worked a day in their life, draft dodgers with bone spurs, pedophiles, sexual deviants, racist anti White Devils,homosexuals, transexuals, cross dressers, men with hands as soft as a woman’s hands, and every one of them suck Jew cawk for 30 pieces of silver.

But, when you dissect the actual (attempted) arguments Repub citizens make regarding a woman’s right to manage, or end, a pregnancy you find their “views� aren’t really about the potential baby.

Republican Credo: Every conception should be carried to term….
there will be plenty of time later to brutally kill or hideously maim the result, in a needless, senseless war.

It’s the evangelical “Christian� ministers and powerbrokers, who control the craniums and influence the voting of alot of their brethren, that put the screws to the Repub Party a few decades ago and have forced the issue high on the R’s list.

Yes, religious fanaticism and dogma are the banes of civilization. One can have, morals, integrity, and all the good things professed by the religious…without the albatross.

But, there is no actual upside for the R party if a great many states almost entirely outlaw abortion access. So, if there’s ever a perfect example of, “Be careful what you wish for� …this is it.

Excellent point.

Maybe they’ll hanged from lampposts and burned alive… hope springs eternal!

The finance system utilized by Western cultures is a Ponzie scheme, which is why they destroy other countries and promote the acceptance of refugees instead of rebuilding infrastructures and economies that would negate the desire or necessity for people to leave their own countries.

China can compete because they have increased the living standards of their massive population, which produces considerable wealth, a portion of which the government can use to participate in international markets.

Because of the quality of communication, government by representation has become obsolete. Also, because of higher living standards, most people can enjoy their lives without any need of supervision, which also diminishes any need for government (other than for health, education and welfare, where they are associates of corporate abuse). The only way they can justify their existence is to create conflicts that only they can resolve.

There is no Uni-party. There are entrenched individual politicians, from both parties, who have no function other than to enrich themselves from tax-payer money.

There are many countries that have multiple political parties that influence government policy. The MAGA Movement is holding a royal flush. The circumstances and timing to become a political party (with or without President Trump) competing against the Democrats and Republicans, is now. If they don’t outright win in 2024, they would at least prevent a majority for either party, and force a coalition that has to make We The People policies priority.

Ilana Mercer certainly values her privacy. Internet searches won’t disclose her age, and unless the search is extended, her religion.

LOL and yeah, I tried to ‘Google’ her too and very little information came out. Thanks for the info, another poster had the same bio on her therefore VERIFIED.

The uniparty works for today’s money elite.

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

Age Restrictions no one younger than 45 or older than 70.
Under 45 = not enough life experience.
Over 70 = go retire already.

But nothing changes, it’s even worse every time because these two fake opponents are pursuing the same agenda.

In every election, US voters fall into the trap.

The Deep State doesn’t care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the two parties as long as their important issues are advanced (wealth and power). As a matter of fact, it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting. In fact, we live under a plutocratic oligarchy.

The Deep State does not care what U. S. citizens want. They know that most U. S. citizens are inane fools and will believe anything. Most U. S. citizens would rather watch America’s Got Talent, Dancing With The Stars, or The Masked Singer than be informed about important issues.

Hey, why do you like killing babies so much? Are you Satan, aka “the prince of the world�?

Mercer is a woman. She doesn’t like killing babies. But since feminists and other trash insist on killing their own spawn, she has no objection. And I agree, Republicans shouldn’t be so insistent on stopping them. I actually advocate abortion, I’m a big fan, given the human feminist trash that gets them, killing their filthy spawn. As I always say, more abortions in, fewer feminist democrat trash out.

@14 AntiDem: The genuine right is pro-White, not anti one branch of the uniparty.

@20 Dumbo: “They Shall Not Divide Us!” declares the sanctimonious virtue-signaling political loyalist.

@31 KenR: Interesting to lean that more Juantaviouses and Shaniquas equals a victory for White heritage Americans.

As soon as I heard the news that the Supreme Court had issued the ruling to overturn Roe vs Wade and send the abortion issue back to the states, the first thought that crossed my mind – was the timing of that decision and how it would probably benefit the DemoNrats in the mid-terms.

I asked myself this question: If this Supreme Court is anywhere near deserving of the claim that it is a majority conservative court – then why didn’t this abortion case be postponed until after the mid-terms?

Assuming that the IQ’s of these allegedly ‘conservative’ justices are higher than 2 digits, sheer common sense would suggest that they should have been able to understand that the smarter, more strategically tactical move to make would be to not issue this ruling until the mid-terms were behind us, thereby depriving the diabolically evil, baby killing DemoNrats this issue to fearmonger the millions of recklessly irresponsible and chronically promiscuous bed hopping liberal tramps who use abortion as a dependable method of contraception into voting for them in the mid-terms.

Then, after thinking about my own question for a while, I began to suspect that the timing of this decision was not an act of brain dead stupidity. It was a deliberate attempt by this phony and fake conservative court to give the DemoNrats an ‘assist’ for the mid-terms.

I’m not accusing every ‘conservative’ justice of being a wolf in sheep’s clothing; I am fairly certain that one or maybe two of them are legitimately opposed to abortion for the right reasons. But, the closeted liberals who pretend to be conservatives knew this about them and knew they could capitalize on their fellow justices to con them into making this ruling, and then not being savvy enough to realize that they were helping to lend an assist to the DemoNrats.

Because of the quality of communication, government by representation has become obsolete. Also, because of higher living standards, most people can enjoy their lives without any need of supervision, which also diminishes any need for government (other than for health, education and welfare, where they are associates of corporate abuse).

Yes, successful countries will eschew Democratic and Representative forms of government in favor of Meritocratic governments

It’s over. There is no hope. If you have children, you should poison or smother them, instead of letting them be raped to death and eaten by negroes and/or having them mutilated and enslaved by judeo-marxist pedophiles, which is their future otherwise.

The (((feminists))) used to say : “If men could have babies, abortion would be a sacrament”.

Well, now men can have babies : denying that can cost you your job. And as a result, abortion is a sacrament indeed.

Abortion is not even an issue with all the methods of birth control out there.

Comedy gold is the Jew media telling us that many sheboons have abortions. Rotflmmfwao. There was a she boom in Florida that popped out about 13 babies before she hit her mid 30s. All fed and clothed by the gubmint. The only women receiving abortions for the most part are White females. Anyone remember how (((they))) were telling Whitey that the planet was being overpopulated back in the Seventies and how we were headed for an Ice Age??? LMAO. Next thing you know (((they))) will be telling us that a woman escaped a concentration camp and was raised by wolves. Lolol. Oh wait, (((they))) actually tried that…… My bad.

Those states are full of women who are totally pissed off and will punish the “team red�.

Thanks for the report from Cuckistan. They play the long game and win, we worry about the next election. Too many with too much stuff to lose even now.

September 25, 2021 “Shrink the World’s Populationâ€�: Secret 2009 Meeting of Billionaires “Good Clubâ€� Is Worldwide Depopulation Part of the Billionaire’s “Great Reset”

For more than ten years, meetings have been held by billionaires described as philanthropists to Reduce World Population culminating with the 2020-2021 Covid crisis.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/secret-may-2009-meeting-of-the-good-club-billionaire-club-in-bid-to-curb-overpopulation/5742626

Billionaires got richer during Covid lockdown.

Victor Davis Hanson mistakenly and appallingly keeps calling “succession� (sic).

I noticed that, too, and think I’m going crazy because both highly educated people like Hanson and semi-literates say “succession” instead of the proper “secession” when speaking about the subject. It’s kind of like some people say “pacific” instead of “specific”.

I lost a little more respect for VDH for bashing Joe McCarthy but he just does what conservatives do in bashing historical figures whom the left hates. The virtue signaling never seems to end.

I wonder how long before VDH and other consertives will be bashing Jefferson and Washington for being slave owners. VDH is also a Putin and Russia hater of the first order but nary a word about Jewish oligarchs who are driving America over the cliff or the misdeeds of the state of Israel.

Joe McCarthy was a hero who was attempting to purge the federal government of the far left communist swine that was then taking root and which has now become what is popular called the American “Deep State”. If anything people warned McCarthy that he grossly underestimated the number of communists and commie sympathizers working in government.

Supposedly “right wing” woman upset that women may not be able to murder their inconvenient babies anymore? Well, I’ll be. Nick Fuentes is right about women.
>paleolibertarian
lol
lmao

Add this to the list of depredations.

Biden’s Most Enduring Legacy?
THURSDAY, SEP 01, 2022 – 07:45 AM
ZeroHedge

If you had asked me about CBDCs [central bank digital currencies] two years ago, I would have said, “Yes, China’s rolling them out. Europe is coming along not far behind. The U.S. was still maybe three or four years away because the U.S. is taking a much more studious approach.�

But that’s changed under Biden, who has fast-tracked their development. We’ve moved fairly quickly from what I would call the research phase to an implementation phase. The Federal Reserve is working with MIT to work out the technological kinks, which shouldn’t take long.

[…]

The government wants to use the banking system for a lot of other things. They might want to freeze your account, they might want to seize your assets, they might also want to put an expiration date on your money.

Imagine you get paid and the government tells you, “That money is going to evaporate or disappear if you don’t spend it in the next six months.� How’s that for a stimulus program?

Libertarians, even the saner ones such as Ms. Mercer, have a pathological attraction to contrarian hot-takes.

“Abortion is OK b/c kills Demon-rat babies?” Really?

As an open racist and anti-Semite, I already occupy higher ground morally and rationally. I simply want White people to have their own nations with power solely vested in White people.

No need to abort anyone’s babies – just disentitle and disenfranchise non-Whites (including Jews).

—Search for solutions outside of politics and against it, such as in informal acts of secession, which, alas, Victor Davis Hanson mistakenly and appallingly keeps calling “succession� (sic). This mistake Hanson made on August 19, on Fox News, at the 4:00 p.m. Pacific slot. And again, to Tucker Carlson, on August 31st, while maligning both patriot Joe McCarthy and secession (or what he calls “succession�).—

Fascinating observation. Because if true it is another item of evidence supporting my intuition regarding Hanson – that he is a highly educated, warmonger psychopath. Because there used to be a theory, fifty years ago or more, that psychopaths had trouble distinguishing or processing homophonic words such as Son and Sun. Was Hanson, by saying “succession” alluding to “Suck sessions?” I’m joking just a bit but it’s very interesting. Thanks.

You don’t take back a legal Right after it has been in effect for 40 odd years just before national legislative elections. DUH!

SCOTUS does not establish rights such as they did with abortion. Show me where abortion is mentioned in the Constitution. And don’t try to argue that it’s in the nooks and crannies somewhere. Abortion was never mentioned in the Constitution so under the 10th amendment it’s a matter for the states to decide which was the case before the Roe decision in 1973.

The ignoramuses in this debate are the people who don’t understand the concept of federalism and states rights and think that new rights can be established by the U.S. Congress by majority vote or by the SCOTUS. There’s a Constitutional amendment process for that.

And I’m not an anti-abortion extremist. I think it should be available under certain circumstances and in certain cases but sadly the facts and historical precedent were on the side of the anti-abortionists in their case before the SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade.

(((far left communist swine?))) You can say racist Jews , anti White and anti Christian Jews or better yet Jewish Extremists/Jewish Supremacists.

Try it, you’ll like it.

ilana and David Vance tackle the staggering decline of the quality of female political leaders.

There should be no female political leaders.

As soon as I heard of the Supreme Court decision, I suspected that the Stupid Party had overreached. Keeping abortion legal nationwide is THE main issue for millions of women, who constitute the majority of voters. They refuse to allow it to be returned back to the states and are now more motivated than ever to go to the polls to defeat the Stupid Party, led by stupid Senate leader Mitch McConnell, who recently said that his party needs to select better candidates, (RINOS like him for example?). The American-created war on Russia in Ukraine and the growing American police state don’t even register.

The biggest irony is that, if the democrats keep their Congressional majority, they will codify abortion into federal law next year. Will these anti-all-abortions radicals be rejoicing then over their permanent minority status?

…who by artfully and selectively quoting Lincoln, deceives many into thinking…

This is most interesting. I guess I was starting to believe the pro Lincoln business, too.

Incredible insight from a (((woman))) who along with her (((father))) destroyed White South Africa and handed the country over to black terrorists funded by jewish communists…

I was shocked to see how quickly the “conservative red states� made abortion under any circumstances nearly impossible.

It’s because, years back, those states had passed “trigger laws” whereby those laws came into effect in the event RvW was overturned. That’s why it happened so fast.

It amazes me how many people I know fall for this issue’s emotional appeals without ever bringing reason to bear.

Reason? That would be fabulous. I might even be half-content if they just had facts, which they don’t. I’ve read so many online articles over the years and the comments below them evidence the most epic ignorance. They are written by adults who have barely the faintest clue of how reproduction works. They display such by sometimes screeching about “life begins at conception” (implying that nothing should intervene after that) while they quite obviously have NO CLUE that it is not known when conception occurs! Doctors estimate when a pregnancy began – they don’t know and the woman doesn’t know.

Then, the ignoramuses meltdown when they are informed of that and it derails their position so they start lashing-out. They are simply a version of woke Democrats whom I have long called – shrieking toddlers.

I believe their ultimate motivations are as I stated above: mega virtue signaling, building chits to get into heaven (lol) and trying to shame and control women for having sex. Notice that all three of those are focused towards themselves and what they get from their strident and uninformed stance. Yeah… funny how that works.

Here are the rates at which US women of different races hired “doctors� to kill their babies, if or if you prefer fetuses, in 2016 or 2017. Abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44:

10: White Non-Hispanic
16: Other Non-Hispanic
18: Hispanic
27: African (“Black non-Hispanic�)

https://www.guttmacher.org/infographic/2017/abortion-rates-race-and-ethnicity

It’s not so much “white feminists� murdering their babies before birth, then.

And profited off it by writing a book about Whites being butchered.

GHOULISH and downright disturbing. SICK.

…there will be plenty of time later to brutally kill or hideously maim the result, in a needless, senseless war.

Exactly.

And, not only that, people seems to be entirely ignorant of the fact that people around America make the decision every day when someone else will die (an actual living person not a potential one) . They do it via not supplying medical treatment or life support to an ill person or by removing it.

Correct, they can only do that with previous, legal permission having been provided by the person about to die but, who says the Doctors assessment is correct or that the tests were accurate OR, and here are some biggies, that the deciding family members have the intellectual and emotional abilities to accurately assess all of the medical information / probabilities, that they aren’t influenced by inheritance or by ill will towards that sick person? ALL OF THAT can come into play and it’s almost a certainty that at least some of it will. Why no uproar about those killings? That’s what they are.

Then, there’s a whole world of ugly in the organ donation business. I’m talking legit, hospital-based donations. Some Docs dispute the very diagnosis of “brain dead”, did you know that? But, it is often claimed and, Katy-bar-the-doors, if the “brain dead” person’s name is on a state list of voluntary organ donors because the hospital will know that and that is who will be at most risk of having their organs harvested via getting the distraught family’s permission. Happens every day. Why no uproar about those very profitable killings? (fresh, youngish organs = big bucks)

Brandon Gives Primetime Speech Saying It is Impossible to Rig an Election, Half the Country are Violent Extremists
Andrew Anglin September 2, 2022

pic.twitter.com/6Q5CAtXXqN

— Alan Andrews (@aandrews2011) August 31, 2022

They don’t respect us

And they refuse to serve us.

They know we won’t do anything about it.

Have we not just lived through three years during which the Pharma State has consolidated power as never before? On pain of taking the Covid jab, the state has de facto established license to shutter a subject’s business, deny him freedom of movement, quarantine, fire, and separate him from loved ones. Arrests of political opponents without due process have become more common in police state America than in Apartheid-era South Africa (which, as chronicled in Into The Cannibal’s Pot, was unsurprisingly legalistic and by-the-book).

This is a great article, but I just don’t fathom why Mercer always cheerleads for Israel, which had the most draconian covid restrictions and covaxx mandates in the world. Maybe her hatred for Palestinians trumps her feigned outrage about covaxx in the only demoNcracy in the Middle East?

Gatekeeper Jewess.

It will never end until the inevitable blowback.

Yet amid the collapse of the American civilization, the republicans are most concerned with preserving the enemy’s embryos.

It should be illegal for a woman to be so good-looking and so wise.

Chalk up White Conservatives’ strange stupidity to superstitious unreason, and chalk that up to Pharisee Saul/Paul & Co. who came to Europe to peddle snake oil with clearly the worst of intentions.

Yes, defending the enemy’s embryos is exactly what these superstition-poisoned buffoons are about…. Thanks to the sagacity of Margaret Sanger, whose Planned Parenthood made abortion oh so available to the lowest-IQ, highest-crime-rate demographic in America, blacks used Roe-guaranteed abortion as birth control, preventing their numbers from being at least twice what they were.

Mind you, blacks (a) wage a frightful, ongoing war on Euroamerica, inflicting an annual average 540,360 (2017 DoJ stats) violent black-on-White crimes–1480 per day; (b) vote overwhelmingly for the Marxists (in ’20, 92% voted for Dementia Joe after Trump repeatedly crowed about all he’d done for “African-Americans”); (c) cost a pile of money for social welfare. They do all this with a pop of 40+ mill. Just imagine what they’d have done–or, more relevantly, will do–with 80+ million in population.

And who are the other enemies whose embryos the civnat dupes strive to preserve? Well, they include liberal, leftist White women, the mothers of future Antifa/Black Lies Matter race-traitors. That is, if they’re not mudsharks! And so many of them are. So White Conservatives, probably a majority of them, lol struggle to protect the growth of a profoundly anti-White electorate and a proliferation of anti-White militants, many of them mulattoes.

Dazzled by visions of spending eternity with Jewsus and Pharisee Paul, these Conservatives don’t seem to see, and don’t care if they do see, that it’s their political and racial foes who’ve done the aborting! Their women, Conservative Euroamerican women, haven’t believed in it. So abolishing abortion won’t result in an expansion of Conservative elements and Whites who don’t hate themselves, but in that of blacks and leftists and mulattoes.

Someone may retort that it’s because of Judeo-Christianity that Conservative Euroamericans don’t abort. Well, one doesn’t have to be among the faithful to reject abortion for one’s own people, since numbers matter and without reproduction the race dies. But in any case, people whose heritage and civilization are under threat of destruction should let the would-be destroyers cull their own numbers while they, the endangered, avoid doing likewise. It doesn’t take a Sun-Tzu to see to prevent one’s enemies from committing suicide or limiting their power to harm one, is tantamount to being at war against oneself.

https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/white-americas-latest-defeat

https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/white-partisanship-roe-vs-wade

You are peering through her veil. She might be an Altright honeytrap.

In this link she looks awful pretty with hardly a quake in her voice. Not like someone claiming to sound the alarm bell about the collapse of our society:
https://barelyablog.com/watch-from-iron-lady-to-party-girl-individualism-vs-feminism/
Let’s give her a shoutout: ilana@ilanamercer.com

What Ilana calls the UniParty another author has been calling for years the “Repucratic” Party, which I think is a better name. See,
https://newswithviews.com/repucrats-for-the-new-world-order/

By the way, idiot Biden just called Republicans semi-Fascists. He is right. If you add the semi-Fascists in the Democratic Party you’ll get a full Fascist organization. Currently, they only need the charismatic leader. They tried Obama, but he was a total failure. May it be Newsom?

Out of buttons, but thanks.

On the accompanying current essay to this one – CDC: Vaxxed and Unvaxxed on Equal Footing – was a sobering example of the agitprop going on at this site.

the Jewish CEO of Pfizer
the Jewish CDC Director Rochelle Walensky
White House COVID-19 coordinator Jeff Zients (Jewish)

These were totally unnecessary additions to the essay, and in my opinion they served two purposes.

First, they planted the notion that JEWS are responsible for COVID.
The second reason is a bit more subtle, and likely the real reason for the endless Jew-hating around here.

Creation of a growing number of people who blame Jews for everything from their ingrown toenails to an unexpected snow storm increases solidarity in an already tight-knit group.

American Jews are like any other group. Conservative/Liberal. Bright/stupid. Decent/Monster. But the existence of a growing number of people who hate them with a passion will drive them together and silence any dissenters. Folks who might otherwise say something about the Nazi-likebehavior of the shithole state will find it prudent to keep their lips zipped.

The murder of that Dugin girl in Russia may have been a similar instance of “creating solidarity”. All the Russian security forces had to do was to stand back and let the murder happen, and instantly the disagreements of the Russian people about Ukraine grew fewer.

Creating Group Solidarity might be the number one reason for all the Hate-The-Jews stuff seen around here. If so, Mercer and many others are doing good patriotic work on behalf of a monstrous little nation.

Morgan is a pompous blowhard and, far worse, an inveterate liar. In other words, he wants you to believe that Thomas DiLorenzo’s character is as vice-ridden as his own.

I respectfully suggest that you read The Real Lincoln and Lincoln Unmasked for yourself. You can actually listen to the former, in its entirety, for no cost at Amazon if you sign up for a free trial of the Audible Audiobook program and then cancel. (Whether you stay or cancel, you get to keep the book and the software needed to listen to it.) It should take well under an hour for you to discover the extent of Morgan’s dishonesty.

As for the commenter in question, consider this: in an inherently anonymous forum, Morgan is one of a number of people whose ego is so desperate for constant reinforcement, whose hunger for credibility is so insatiable, and whose capacity for incisive thought is so lacking that leaning heavily on his “credentials” becomes his default resort. One might reasonably ask him in what field he is “doctorally” credentialed—feminist or minority studies? one of the other pseudo-sciences? perhaps even Biden studies? Whatever the answer, it’s worth noting that, in the area of academic credentials, Morgan makes for an interesting contrast with Dr. Thomas DiLorenzo, who promptly invites people he meets, in person and online, to call him Tom. But then, he’s only an economist.

“Thus forging pockets of civil society independent of politicians has become all the more urgent.”

Urgent point given biden’s hate speech.

Why do you like having humanity’s enemies breed so much? Are you Satan, aka “the prince of the worldâ€�? Let me know!

Are Ilana Mercer and Laura Loomer brother and sister?

Anyways she’s right, abortion is the ultimate form of democrat population control.

All these red states that are banning abortion are going to turn solid blue in 18 years.

Will these anti-all-abortions radicals be rejoicing then over their permanent minority status?

Don’t you see that you yourself, along with millions of other cheerleaders for abortion, had already acquired permanent minority status several decades ago? Still, those you are quick to call radicals—despite their having a far more nuanced appreciation of the present situation than those who despise them give them credit for—will politely make room for you on the couch here in the slave quarters of Jewish America. Everyone must pay for his own (((wi-fi and cable connections))), however.

We have arrived at in time in history for a new republic to emerge from the ashes now simmering throughout western civilization. Far away from suffocating toxic swamps of DC and surrounding alphabet outback’s are the only possible alternative to the hellish future now in our mist’s.

If they can murder and slaughter millions of innocents and laugh, using proxy armies for blood letting, they’ll have no remorse removing millions more who stand in the way of GlobalHomoZOG/BIGsRxMIC3BLM world power.

You don’t need to be a Wizard, seeer, visionary, psychic or time traveler, the signs are everywhere. Most refuse to see it.

It depends on your values. If you think that winning an election is more important than stop killing babies, you have a point.

My opinion is that the victory of Republicans is not worth that much. Even if it mattered that the hypocrite wing of the Uniparty wins against the sincere wing of the Uniparty.

But it does not matter either way. Having four years more of tweets is not worth killing babies.

And your real enemies are not the masses of Democrats. These guys have two neurons but they cannot stand any fight. Your enemies are the elites and its clowns, the Uniparty. Voting is only a farce

TLDR. Summary of your comment: “The essay said the truth but I don’t like this truth to be said. I prefer for it to be hidden”

I’m no fan or supporter of abortion, but I’m not going to get in the way of Dem cultists and the choice for which they will answer to God.

From the ashes? We aren’t anywhere near the ashes.

Agreed that, to anyone paying close attention and being honest about things, the writing is on the wall – the decline and destruction are obvious. But, we aren’t even close to a new republic emerging because the actual bonfire hasn’t even begun yet.

We’re on a slow burn, so far, and that’s why most can’t see it. You have to admit that TPTB have been fairly clever about it, as I figured they would be. It will either continue on this way…a slow grind downward… or, at some point, there will be an intended cataclysmic event that will ratchet the USA and the West downward so seriously that enormous changes can be made. Like introducing Central Bank digital currencies amongst other suffocating controls.

As bad as Thatcher was, she would not sell off all public assets. at bargain basement prices. to the tribe. That is why she was ousted and replaced with John Major. Even Blair sold off parts that Thatcher wouldn’t. In assessing Thatcher, like Canada’s Trudeau v1.0, it’s not that they were “good”, it’s that those who have followed have been appallingly bad. The same could be said for Reagan.

ZUS is far too big, and has way too many niggers and squatamalans. And the elections are rigged. Secession is the only option.

We should offer the west coast to China and Alaska and Western CANADA to Russia in return for some help. Because the AI deepfake that just gave a speech in the name of Biden is right. Americans will need a lot more than infantry rifles.

When Texas secedes they will need s-400s, artillery, rpgs, all sorts of defensive weapons.

Zionist

uniparty….

explains all.

“I just don’t fathom why”…..

because the Issacson is a Zionist agent

operating in America. And like others of her kind,

equally concerned with keeping the “Right”

Jew-safe.

Hello, Pierre. I am relieved to read your information. Those books – I am going to buy one of them for a family member for Christmas. Thanks for telling me about the Audio Book, I didn’t even know there was such a thing available.

Re abortion. It is inherently wicked, but whether it’s completely legal or completely illegal, I don’t give a hoot anymore. Just by way of a wee story which I guess does not mean much: years ago I subscribed to a prolife magazine. I was yakking to the editor (or was it a regular contributor) there and she said she had an abortion and though she thoroughly repented, she said that if a close friend was determined to have one, she’d go there to the clinic with her and hold her hand during the killing because it was so traumatic (and her friendship so deep). As I live and breathe. I just went silent, couldn’t respond one way or another. Years later, I still don’t know if I should’ve said, “You do know how full of shit you are, don’t you.”

This doesn’t look like a slow burn. Many of these fires are man made, many intentionally.

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:adv;d:2022-08-27..2022-09-02,2022-08-27;@99.8,0.0,2z

Your comment indicates a very low level of insight and intelligence. Come and live in black-ruled South Africa. Revel in black freedom. Experience black apartheid. Enjoy black incompetence. Soak in black crime adventures of murder, rape, robbery, hijacking and corruption. Come and live with the poor black defenceless natives. They are more oppressed than ever before. They suffer more than ever before. Until then, keep your mouth shut.

Republicans are most concerned with preserving the enemy’s embryos.

Yikes! The US is a commercial state that wants to keep labor costs low. The baby bust with tight restriction on immigration would cause inflation (rising cost of labor without concomitant gains in productivity). Or at least that is the way business’s tame economists see it.

They are all zionists. Democrats and republicans.
The wasp love the killers of Christ.

Question:
Who started the idea of killing children every once in a while?
So called israelis or the Wasp?.

That really is another striking similarity.

Any self respecting White person would have abandoned Trumpstein after Eric Trump made that disgusting comment about David Duke. Imagine if Eric Trump had said the same thing about “reverend” Al Chimpton. Speaking of Al, why did Al not serve any jail time for the Tawana Brawley rape hoax?? Did the “reverend” make a public plea of forgiveness to the Lord and Whites for his racism and lying?? I know the ” reverend” gotz his own show and the older he gets the more he resembles a starved large mouth bass.

White middle class to poor Whites, the Uniparty HATES you and they have for a long, long time, gladly sending your children off to fight in some Jew war. You fought in the wrong side in WWII, America, and IF you were too stupid to realize this when (((Hollywood actor))) was at the helm in the Electric Eighties, than by God, you should have figured it out by now unless you have the IQ of an earthworm.

Pierre de Craon: “Morgan is a pompous blowhard and, far worse, an inveterate liar. In other words, he wants you to believe that Thomas DiLorenzo’s character is as vice-ridden as his own.”

LOL, notice that little Petey with the Crayons is only capable of scrawling a personal attack, and can’t refute a word of what I said. Maybe he thinks that smearing the walls of this forum with his own feces will dissuade others from thinking about it. Just as DiLorenzo and PCR seemingly are determined to do whatever it takes to rehabilitate Lincoln, even at the cost of falsifying history, Petey prefers to stink up the place with his childish diatribes rather than come to grips with the Christian roots of white racial masochism.

Southerners tried the separation thing, but didn’t understand that Abolitionism was only a tool the Puritans/Yankees were using in their war against normal white people. The Puritans liked to see themselves as a new Chosen People, but the Southerners didn’t realize that the Yankees saw them as Canaanites.

99% of the commentators on this site know nothing about the realities of American Politics. They could not even win a student council race in grade seven or a seat on City Council in down town Detroit or Buffalo let alone running a campaign for Dog Catcher of some hill town in Kentucky.

Republicans = controlled opposition. Worse than worthless, traitorous.

Dazzled by visions of spending eternity with Jewsus and Pharisee Paul, these Conservatives don’t seem to see, and don’t care if they do see, that it’s their political and racial foes who’ve done the aborting! Their women, Conservative Euroamerican women, haven’t believed in it. So abolishing abortion won’t result in an expansion of Conservative elements and Whites who don’t hate themselves, but in that of blacks and leftists and mulattoes.

Most of the so-called Church Fathers were extreme Jew-haters. So how does their adoption of Christianity represent a subversive Jewish infiltration of the western world?

… she said that if a close friend was determined to have [an abortion], she’d go there to the clinic with her and hold her hand during the killing because it was so traumatic (and her friendship so deep). As I live and breathe. I just went silent, couldn’t respond one way or another. Years later, I still don’t know if I should’ve said, “You do know how full of shit you are, don’t you.�

You recount an all-too-familiar story, Liza. In the course of my life, I have been acquainted with several men and women who have been in precisely the “reluctant support” situation you describe. I regret to say that a bit over forty years ago, I myself was once such a hand holder. The “justifications” proposed at various times by the editor, by my various acquaintances, and by me were all, as you say, full of shit.

The theological term for this conduct is “material cooperation in an evil act.” Of course, if one repents and does penance, God forgives. Recovering from the distinct sense that one has been a coward is another matter entirely. The memory may serve a useful purpose if it keeps one from being a coward again.

(((far left communist swine?))) You can say racist Jews

I identity Jewish power and influence as much or more than most posters on Unz. The parenthesis you added is fine. Jews have always been disproportionately involved in communist and far left wing movements and are often the leaders of them.

In the case of BLM they have negresses as public proxies but behind the scenes it’s a kosher operation with Susan Rosenberg calling the shots and raising money mostly from other wealthy Jews. If Jews ever lose power over BLM then the media will either become more neutral or somewhat hostile as they did with the NAACP once Jews were shown the door.

Without Jewish leadership and connections the NAACP has been mired in financial and sexual scandals and is a shell of its former self.

That’s right. Female political leaders lead us right into hell.

I once met Ilana’s father, Ben Isaacson, when I lived in South Africa. I had just discovered Ilana’s writings on the internet and was intrigued to know what he thought of her. He made a face and said she was a great tragedy in his life and that he officially had disinherited her after she eloped with an American Christian rock musician (Mercer). But like a good Jewish girl Ilana always longed for her father’s love and always put him on a pedestal even after he disowned her.

Here are some links about Ilana’s Rabbi father:
https://thestrugglerabbi.com/
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2012-09-05/ty-article/where-does-jewish-moral-responsibility-end/0000017f-e18d-d38f-a57f-e7df02470000?_amp=true

https://www.sajr.co.za/rabbi-ben-isaacson-a-maverick-soul-finds-rest/
When the late Suzanne Belling was appointed Isaacson’s biographer, he regaled her with colourful stories of a life well lived, anecdotes of trips to the south of France, love affairs, adoring groupies, and tennis games in the searing tropical heat with the Palestinian Liberation Organisation’s representative to Zimbabwe.

But that wasn’t the story that his family wanted told, and so the book was edited, re-written, and stripped bare of its life. When the toned-down version of the book was submitted to the establishment for a foreword, the response was less than enthusiastic. A book on the angry biblical prophets, would be so much more appropriate, they thought.

So resultantly, we were deprived of a unique glimpse into the life of the most rebellious rabbi to have ever graced the pulpit in South Africa.

Photo of the family when they fled “evil apartheid” South Africa for Israel. Ilana’s the little girl on the bottom left:

….the Christian roots of White racial masochism.

Mais oui!

But the snake-oil-drugged masochists, if they still embrace the Judeo-Christian theology and eschatology along with the altruism, think they are blessed and choosing infinite joy over infinite torment. And the secular among them, embracing a liberal morality that’s essentially Judeo-Christian altruism minus the theology and eschatology, think they are moral and decent. Masochists are the last things they’d conceive themselves as being.

Well, snake-oil salesmen must attribute great things to their wares, must they not, or consumers won’t agree to their price.

Uniparty=treason nails it!

The goper party is a sick joke filled with ball less eunuchs.

The dimos, well we know what they are.

Us vs them is a Jewish trope, it isn’t a Christian trope. As a believer in the word of God revealed in the gospels, I consider that everyone is entitled to be given a chance to redeem. I don’t wish my opponents dead, I wish that the instinct of life triumph over the instinct of death. Ilana Mercer’s vision is definitely antithetical to my vision. If I adopt the same attitude towards my opponents that they have towards me, I can’t win, the devil wins.

George Galloway, the Scottish left winger, said somewhere he was not anti-Semitic. He traveled on a tourist visa from Jewish household to Jewish household in South Africa plotting insurrection against the South African “minority Government”. Now they were not plotting placards and street marches.

Thank you for the info on Ms. Mercer. Personally, I have mixed feelings about her but I do respect her and she has written some excellent articles. The one she wrote back in January of this year was very memorable. In it, Ms. Mercer artfully contrasts the Jan6 mostly-peaceful ‘riot’ with the summer of looting and mayhem by negro thugs and Democrat insurrections (sorry, no link.)

Unfortunately, Ms. Mercer is programmed to excuse Israel, no matter what. This is typical among Jews. As Kevin MacDonald notes: “The best deceivers are self-deceivers.”

PS- Ilana’s mom looks like a total shiksa. Who knows….

PPS- We are constantly reminded about all these prominent people wh0, it turns out, may have had one Jewish grandparent or something; implying that it was the small amount of Jewish DNA which produced exceptionalism in this particular goy.

Yet it’s just as common for a prominent and well-known Jew to have English or French or German blood. In fact, most highly successful Jews look very European.

I can agree. That blaring triumphant whistle in an in your face manner is self defeating. It suggests that we don’t care about the real life issues confronting a pregnant woman.

However any suggestion as is made by the author and so many here that we should be murdering people because they don’t agree with a conservative point of view is a tad mind blowing. And we should utterly reject any suggestion that killing children in the womb is an acceptable means of removing future opponents or opposing current opponents.

I prefer we take

“it matters how we treat the least of these” as a reflection of sound moral standing, even if we want to strangle them for every false, crazy, nasty, disgusting word they utter.

laugh

there but by God’s grace go I

It’s not so much “white feminists� murdering their babies before birth, then.

Hey dumb-ass, I said nothing about ‘White feminists”, although THEY are the race traitors and a dozen other pejoratives. *I* said “human feminists”, period. What’s with the quote “WHITE feminists”? I never said that. Orcs are trained at birth to be feminists. asians, hispies, indians, as soon as they land here become White-hating feminists. All it takes is a college education. And they all kill their filthy spawn. Throw in the blacks and their abortions? SCORE!!!!

RC, do better. You’re better than that. Feminists, White, Black or indifferent, they’re all filthy regardless. You’re a WHITE knight, coming to the rescue of White feminists everywhere. Just know they hate you.

It’s not about emotional appeal. It’s about a bedrock constituency, the Evangelicals, which the Republican party cannot afford to lose. Weaken on the issue of abortion and they stay home. Similarly, the Democratic party is dependent on the Black block vote and a faction of leftists who are variously Green, democratic socialist, radical feminist and outright Marist and communist. These people might stay home too. In either case, the party that loses its base is guaranteed to lose any national election or any statewide election in a politically divided state.

The result is, each party has to play to it most extreme factions to survive. Republicans to abortion. The Democrats to unlimited abortion and affirmative action forever.

uniparty hits the nail on the head. We have so many clowns in politics it breaks my heart. It seems to me that the only Republicans with any cahunas are the women: Greene , Bobert, Noem etc. Maybe they have more of a vested interest in the future of this country I.E. children and aren’t as likely to be swayed by the Hebes.

Republican’s go to issue is not defending the enemy’s embryos, it’s defending Ukraine’s borders.

Meritocratic government will bring about most hideous entrenched bureaucracy imaginable. Truth is, no one knows what merit is, and as you go down the chain, it becomes murkier and murkier who the the “best” qualified for anything is. Let’s say you own a ball team. Maybe the Giants. If is often pretty darn clear who should play centerfield for the Giants. On the hundreds of teams further down the chain, maybe there isn’t one best person. Not even one best person for the situation at that moment.

What meritocracy allows is for some group to define the characteristics they possess as the best for the situation when in fact there is no certain best. Am I saying that meritocracy leads to oligarchy? Especially the local ones, called guild oligarchy.

Recently, I saw an interesting defense of autocracy. The argument was, the autocrat has toi be very sensitive to the true needs of the body politic. The point was, also, that if things go wrong, you only need to replace one autocrat, not a whole legislature as in a parliamentary system or multiple legislatures, multiple governors, a president and the judiciary to change the system as in the United States. Rarely in the American system do all of the stars line up.

Most of the so-called Church Fathers were extreme Jew-haters. So how does their adoption of Christianity represent a subversive Jewish infiltration of the western world?

That Judeo-Christianity was a Jewish infiltration of the Western World is beyond doubt. All the original proponents and missionaries were Judeans–ethnic Jews and even Jews in religion, though parting with traditionalists, crucially over who the Messiah was. The very idea of a messiah is quintessentially Jewish. The god of the proselytizers and all future Judeo-Christians is the Judaic god of Israel. The Judeo-Christian messiah, their savior, is the Judaic god’s son. All his disciples were Jews, including the writers of the books constituting the New Testament, while the Torah and whole Hebrew bible are integral to Judeo-Christianity as its “Old” Testament.

That their opiate wouldn’t render Europeans (above all the Romans, whom Judeans fanatically hated as the profane occupiers of what they considered their God-promised land) promptly docile was evidently unanticipated by the founders…. Also, the creed they imparted contained the sinister Judaic notion of collective, congenital guilt; and accordingly, in future, European dullards would condemn the whole Jewish nation for lol “killing Christ.” But such facts mean only that the best-laid schemes of mice and men oft go astray.

The fact that the Jewish founders set in motion things which backfired on Jews doesn’t mean that their purpose was not to harm the goyim. I believe that Judeo-Christianity is the most damaging Jewish assault ever on EuroCiv, but its authors weren’t omniscient and unerring.

In any case, when you say the Church Fathers were Jew-haters, you can’t mean they hated all Jews. They hated and rejected some Jews. They brown-nosed other Jews, as have all Judeo-Christians ever since. They didn’t hate–they revered and followed–Saul/Paul the Pharisee of Tarsus, who said some very critical things about Jews who rejected his messiah, but was himself a Jew and said so with evident pride several times in the NT and answered his own question “Of what value is being a Jew?” with “Much in every way! First of all, the Jews were entrusted with the very words of God [Romans 3:2].”

For Pantheos’ sake, lol, the Church Fathers worshiped a Judean carpenter of the Tribe of Judah, a scion of the House of David, King of Israel.

So in hating Jews they rejected only some Jews. They bought snake oil from others!

Two other points:

1. You reproduce what I posted–

Dazzled by visions of spending eternity with Jewsus and Pharisee Paul, these Conservatives don’t seem to see, and don’t care if they do see, that it’s their political and racial foes who’ve done the aborting!

Can you deny that it’s Judeo-Christianity, a Jewish concoction, which has induced White Conservatives to have such a problem with abortion? A problem even with their deadly enemies using it?! And do they not believe in immortality and heaven, which Jewsus and Pharisee Paul have enabled them to enjoy?

2. If there were Church Fathers who hated the nation from which they derived their passport to Eternal Bliss, was it perhaps because they were nuts, like Augustine, or Tertullian who said “Credo quia absurdum est” (“I believe because it’s absurd)–men so screwed-up in the head as to be capable of the sickest unreason? What does Nietzsche say in his The Anti-Christ (from Aphorism 44)?

[The Jews’] after-effect has falsified mankind to such an extent that today the Christian is able to feel anti-Jewish without realizing he is the ultimate consequence of the Jews.

The emphasis is Nietzsche’s.

Well, Washington wanted absolutely no party (though he ended up grouped with what was to be called the Federalist Party), and Jefferson a one governing party system : the Democratic Republican party, today’s Democratic Party, of which he was the founder and director. Both hated heated political debates and wanted decisions to be taken unanimously and professionally, like the management board of a company, among that fraction of the gentry that would specialize in defending the interests of the nation identified with that of the upper fraction of the landowning gentry. At that time about 10% of the male white anglo-saxon or Jewish (the constitution had been declared to be secular and religiously neutral under the latter religion’s financial pressure : otherwise no Catholic or pagan was to be allowed) population of voting age possessed the minimum of property value to prevail of their right to vote, and these votes were taken not at all to decide about the great orientations the country would take, but just as a safety mechanism to prevent an intruder from without that gentry (therefore a presumed traitor) or a “tyrant” (the word then did not mean a dictator but any leader with the ambition to redistribute property or proceed to an agrarian reform) from gaining an official function. The ideal they had was the Roman Republic but with checks and balances protecting it from any take-over by a tribune of the plebs that might turn into an emperor. In other words the initial intention of the Founding Fathers was an oligarchy of the 1% biggest landowners.

Lucius Vanini: “Masochists are the last things they’d conceive themselves as being.”

“Masochistic” describes Christian behavior perfectly, whether they want to admit it or not. Christianity is a pain and death cult based upon the excruciating death of a probably fictional rabbi. In accordance with its doctrines, Christians want to imitate his sufferings, so they think the more they torment their flesh the more morally superior they are. Some, like the flagellants, enjoy whipping themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant

Flagellants are practitioners of a form of mortification of the flesh by whipping their skin with various instruments of penance.[1] Many Christian confraternities of penitents have flagellants, who beat themselves, both in the privacy of their dwellings and in public processions, in order to repent of sins and share in the Passion of Jesus.[1]

Other early Christians stared at the sun until they went blind. Still others demonstrated their hatred for life in even more dramatic ways, and are still venerated as saints for it to this day. Consider the early Christians Simeon and Alypius, men who spent the majority of their lives living on top of a pillar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon_Stylites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alypius_the_Stylite

He erected a pillar beside the church and lived atop it for the majority of his adult life. Two monasteries were built beside his pillar, one for monks and one for nuns, and Saint Alypius served as spiritual director of both. It is claimed that, after standing upright for fifty-three years, Alypius found his feet no longer able to support him, but instead of descending from his pillar lay down on his side and spent the remaining fourteen years of his life in that position.[2] Alypius died in 640, at the claimed age of 118.

In light of the hatred these lunatics have for life, one might wonder why modern-day Christians are so opposed to abortion. After all, if they hate life, shouldn’t they love ripping a fetus apart? But if you think about it more carefully, their reasoning becomes clear. If the point of life is suffering, as they believe, then it’s nothing less than a divine necessity that any child conceived must be carried to term. That’s the only way it can be made to suffer completely, for a full lifetime. Thus, to a Christian, every abortion is a tragedy, because it represents a lost opportunity for increased human suffering. From their point of view it’s a calamity!

I agree with you to a point – abortion is to conservatives, especially religious ones, what blacks are to liberals – an opportunity to virtue-signal and pat oneself on the back about one’s moral goodness (snort). Pro-lifers rarely talk about sexual self-restraint anymore, which is the root of the problem of unwanted pregnancies, but accept spawning bastards and living off of the taxpayer as legitimate lifestyles. Back in the 1980s, conservative individuals and groups talked about defending “traditional morality” (how sincere they were is another question) and favored marriage or giving a baby up for adoption in the case of an out-of-wedlock pregnancy. Don’t hear the term “welfare queen” anymore, possibly due to the anti-abortion obsession of what passes for conservative nowadays.

Good grief, I wasn’t referring to actual fires.

However, if you change the year on the date display in your link, you’ll find that plenty was burning brightly, worldwide, in Aug of 2021 and 2020, etc. etc.

Weak sauce…

Why would you fight a bunch of maniacs to convince them to have children? Couldn’t we compromise, and say we are pro-choice on mRNA shots too? They take the shots and have abortions. It’s a win-win.

Don’t forget this bunch, who started out as mere flagellants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy

The Skoptsy referred to themselves as the “White Doves” (белые голуби). Their aim was to perfect the individual by eradicating original sin, which they believed had come into the world by the first coitus between Adam and Eve. They believed that human genitals were the true mark of Cain, and that the true message of Jesus Christ included the practice of castration, that Jesus himself had been a castrate, and that his example had been followed by the apostles and the early Christian saints.

And the women of this sect had their breasts cut off.

Today, there’s a variant of the Skoptsy, the “transgenders”.

This is one goofy world.

Meritocracy is not about deciding “who”. Meritocracy is about bringing together people with proven expert, technical and specialist knowledge to find a consensus concerning the where, when, how, why and what the best possible, reasonable and constitutional plan of action or legislation should be. How many representatives just “go along with the party line”, and raise their hands without even knowing about or reading about what they affirm, and without considering their constituents? The People now have more access to information and ideas, and are not as dumb as the “Powers” hope them to be. The United States was founded to be an autocracy, the autocrat being the Constitution; the Constitution representing one unit of people, Americans.

Yes, she is a racist. So what? She saw what happened to South Africa and it likely did not inspire a great deal of confidence in the conviction that race is a social construct.

Only a fool can still believe that the rainbow nation will any day now become Wakanda.

Personal experience with the destructiveness of far too many black people will turn anyone into a racist.

That was a lot of wind hasbara.You get paid by the word now?Christ is Lord.And He is not Jewish.He did fight the Pharisees with all His might.The Israelites were White.Your ancestors,the ones you smear our Lord with were Turkic Mongol brutes with hook noses.All the old depictions of Genghis Khan or Turkic leaders show the nose.Christ had flaxon hair,ruddy complexion and beautiful features.Nice try but the anti-Christ bit always gives you IDF boys away.

Oh hasbara.The Lake of Fire is where you’ll spend eternity and you know it.James 2:19 says even the demons know God is real and tremble.No hater of Christ Jesus can possibly be the friend of the White race.You are an enemy of the Cross and your Father is Satan the liar of all liars.Please put some more Black crime facts so us dummies will think you are one of us.You are a dilettante in the art of deception.Christ is Lord.I rebuke you in the name of Christ, foul Jewish demon.

Meritocratic government will bring about most hideous entrenched bureaucracy imaginable.

As opposed to Democracy or a Republic? LOL

Recently, I saw an interesting defense of autocracy. The argument was, the autocrat has toi be very sensitive to the true needs of the body politic.

Under a Meritocratic system, there is a hierarchy, not just one autocrat. Leaders are chosen at the local level and successively larger levels of the population, at the top are a group of leaders chosen for merit alone.

But you apparently want a system where our idiot masters are elected by the idiot populace.

In other words the initial intention of the Founding Fathers was an oligarchy of the 1% biggest landowners.

Then their intentions were fulfilled.

And I would add: don’t put too much stock in a candidate’s party affiliation (i.e., Democrat, Republican or other party) or what he says or promises.

Find out WHO he or she is, what his or her real actions have been in the past, what interests he or she represents, WHO is funding him or her.

Thank you

I don’t agree with most of what you write, but you are very eloquent and worthy of a thoughtful response.

In any case, when you say the Church Fathers were Jew-haters, you can’t mean they hated all Jews. They hated and rejected some Jews. They brown-nosed other Jews, as have all Judeo-Christians ever since.

This is the point with which I take issue. The Church Fathers like Augustine and Chrysostum were deeply hateful of Jews. A convert to Judaism and expert on Christian history, Paula Fredrikson, wrote a book proclaiming Augustine as a hero because his contempt for Jews was such that he preferred them to suffer eternal exile and degradation rather than killing them outright, as other Church Fathers apparently advocated. (She’s pretty hot, so count this as a big win for Judea!):
https://www.bu.edu/religion/people/faculty/bios/fredriksen/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LMEYOU/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i5

The New Testament reports that James, brother of the Lord, was head of the Jerusalem Church, which was considered the Mother Church at the time. Peter Paul and other apostles seem to bow to his authority. Even Josephus writes that he was respected by all Jews because he was very devout and never deviated from Jewish Law despite his faith in Jesus:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James,_brother_of_Jesus


https://www.jpost.com/blogs/truth-beyond-price/resurrecting-james-brother-of-jesus-and-the-temple-454183

There is some controversy who this James (real name Ya’akov) was. And even those who concur that he was Jesus’ biological brother (non-Catholics) will sometimes argue that the authority of the Apostles was superior to his own. He never appears in the Gospels so it is puzzling how he came to run the Jerusalem Church at all. And Catholics almost completely ignore his prominent role in the Book of Acts in their total allegiance to Peter as the “first Pope” and leader of the whole movement. (Called the Primacy of Peter and the doctrine of Petrine Succession for all future Popes, all based on Jesus’ words to Peter in Matthew 16, where he changes his name from Shimon to Peter (rock) and says “upon this rock shall I build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.”

At any rate, James established a Jesus movement that was faithful to Jewish Law. Jesus prophesied that during the coming Roman siege of Jerusalem, there would be a brief lull during which he exhorted his followers to flee. This is precisely what the followers of James did (James had been martyred earlier by the Jewish High Priest). So it seems that Jesus went to great lengths to see that the movement initiated by James would survive the Roman destruction of Jerusalem.

All this is a preamble to understanding how great was Augustine’s hatred of the Jews (which Paula Fredrikson claims was still less than the animosity and contempt of other Church Fathers) when he branded the movement established by James as a heresy and authorized the use of violence and murder against its adherents.

You are correct that the Church Fathers revered Paul, but he seems to be the ONLY Jew they respected. And they went to great lengths to dissociate Paul from Judaism so as not to hinder their reverence for him. Some historians claim that up to 50% of the Jews living in the Roman Empire ended up converting to Christianity, but I cannot think of a single Jewish figure who was respected as a Church Father let alone had a position of leadership in the early Catholic Church. And this process of alienation intensified up until the time of the Enlightenment when Protestant Christian leaders like Wesley and especially those in the American colonies began to revise their views of Jews and embraced an early form of Zionism foreseeing an imminent return of Jews to their ancestral homeland. This is the movement that you rightly note respects Jews and, today, completely supports the Zionist Agenda.

Traditional Catholicism was very anti-Semitic, as were the various branches of Orthodox Christianity. Putin’s friendship to Jews and Zionists is a BIG anomaly from traditional Russian attitudes to Jews. See this book for a harrowing account of Jewish life in Russian and Eastern Europe up until the Russian Revolution:

Dr. Robert Morgan: Christianity is a pain and death cult based on the excruciating death of a probably fictional rabbi.

Yes, though I can’t imagine how the rabbi Jewsus could not be fictional. Just glance at his resume’. The “only begotten son” of a jealous god (“begotten”? Was Yahweh or Jehovah a good lay, maybe with a dick as big as South America?). Born, nevertheless, of a virgin. Walked on water. Fed a multitude with a little bit of grub (unless those few fish were bluefin tuna, which the disciples, all anglers, caught by trolling off Haifa). Turned water into wine. Cured the disabled and chronically ill with a touch or a word. Raised the dead. Rose from the dead. Told Peter to catch a fish with a coin in its mouth, and sure as hell Peter did–first cast! Suffered on a cross to save us from things called “our sins,” thereby “vicariously atoning” for our wickedness, though the deal is off if we fail to believe and kiss His ass.

I can’t believe in the historicity of such a person, can you? We might as well credit the historicity of Rumpelstiltskin and Jack and the Beanstalk. Trouble is, I stopped believing in Santa Claus a long time ago.

Funny how the Greek and Roman Paganism is called “mythology”–and rightly so–while equally absurd, far-fetched Judeo-Christian mythology is still in many quarters received as lol “Gospel Truth.” There are no Ages of Enlightenment, only fashions in credulity.

To your enumeration of holy sickos I’ll add the early Church Father Origen, who cut off his own nards lol. Well, I suppose he was being rather consistent, inasmuch as Judeo-Christianity is the anti-body, down-on-sex superstition par excellence. (That’s another reason why the cult is sick: it associated sexuality with “sin” and shame, unlike the Pagans, who celebrated it as divine–enthused and awed, as I am, by the true and utter miracle of reproduction which for me has always left no doubt of Cosmic Creative Intelligence, which many call “God”). He didn’t want to be led into temptation lol….

But I think that, in another and more telling way, Origen’s story further attests to the sick nature of historical Judeo-Christianity, corroborating what you say. You see, Origen alsodid something that smacked of a relatively sound mind. He asserted that the will of an all-loving and all-powerful God must prevail in the end–that in the end all His children, including Satan, would be saved and made blessed. Origen’s logic was impeccable here: his conclusion rigorously followed from such premises. An infinitely loving Father will want to do an infinity of good to his children, and, being omnipotent, cannot fail to do it. Yet Origen was never canonized. He was, I believe, even viewed as a damnable heretic.

And who was canonized? A much worse psycho-neurotic–Augustine, whose lifelong self-torment over some pears he’d stolen when a boy was mental health itself compared to his doctrine of predestination. Origen was sick enough to castrate himself, but not enough to think that the existence of an omnipotent all-loving God was compatible with babies predestined to suffer everlasting agony…. Uh, but Augustine became the man, while Origen is permanently the guy on the outside looking in. I guess the Holy Brotherhood liked Augustine’s positing of the very maximum of suffering, while they were put off by Origen’s putting a cap on it and even predicting a happy end for literally everybody. Barf!

Yes, you’re right, Doc. These creeps and ghouls have been addicted to a dark pain-obsessed cult. A half-century of de-programming couldn’t retrieve them.

Exhibit z (we’ll have to add letters to the alphabet to denote all the pieces of evidence): What exactly is the point of everlasting punishment, eternal damnation? What gets done after the first 10 million of millennia? The sinner is rehabilitated? No, that can’t be it, because the punishment never stops–but if the sinner does finally see the light, then the infinitely loving God is actually the worst Demon imaginable. Well, everlasting penalties and rewards are, of course, figments; but the fact that the faithful believe in them without batting an eyelash suggests–no, shouts–that Judeo-Christianity as creed and institution has been wall-to-wall psychopathology.

I’m an ideological foe of all the Abrahamic superstitions, which include Judaism and Islam. To the extent they’re really credited and aren’t just snake oil cunningly peddled by charlatans, they’re all case histories of psychopathological derangement; but Judeo-Christianity seems the least healthy of them.

I just love it when people make my argument for me. You might want to know, I call myself a Platonic idealist. Your ideas are straight out of and are a mirror of the Republic. Plato’s Republic.

You need to read the book. Or at least Books I through IV. Plato was very clear, the ideal society he was describing was something that did not and could not exist. He discussed, he plainly said, in order to illustrate the principles of justice, by which he meant, social justice.

Frankly, I think you know more about how to boil water than you do about political and social theory. Your theory, on the ground, builds exactly the kind of overbearing bureaucracy of which I spoke. It can’t do anything else because, Realist, we are talking about the human race here.

Now that I think about it, you also need to read an old book called The Peter Principle. According Laurence Peter, the author, everyone rises to one level beyond their capabilities and then peters out. The end result is that the top positions in every hierarchy end up filled by mediocrities who then remain in those positions for long tenures. How in your utopia is it going to be any different?

Another important point is that historians claim that a large number of people in the Roman Empire were interested in Judaism. Some estimate it from 10 to 20%. These were the people called “God-fearers” in the New Testament. They would attend the synagogue on the Jewish Sabbath and celebrate the Jewish holidays. They had voted with their feet but not yet with their male member.

These were the people Paul was eager to address when he traveled around Asia Minor and Greece. He always went to the synagogue first and many of those God-fearers were taken by his message that they could enjoy the blessings and salvation of Judaism without undergoing the rigor of some of its commandments.

There also were a number very prominent rabbis in the Talmud who were Roman converts. The famous Rabbi Akiva supposedly married a former Roman Empress.

Whether you like it or not, many people in the Roman Empire were interested in a religion that provided more dignity of daily life and hope after the grave. The Roman cultic religions did not do these things. Please see the following links from Presbyterian scholar William Barclay about the appalling degradation and corruption of Rome at the time of Nero:
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/dsb/revelation-17.html
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/dsb/revelation-18.html

I can’t believe in the historicity of such a person, can you? We might as well credit the historicity of Rumpelstiltskin and Jack and the Beanstalk. Trouble is, I stopped believing in Santa Claus a long time ago.

Good thing you mentioned this. The historicity of Jesus and the writings of the New Testament are accepted by not only most Christian Bible scholars but also by many secular historians. See this superb video:

Furthermore Santa Claus is a nickname for Saint Nicholas, who was a genuine historical figure from early Christianity and is considered the patron saint of children. There’s no reason not to believe that his spirit still impacts the Earth, especially at Christmas time. Catholics and Orthodox Christians believe that the Saints in Heaven are able to pray for us and evoke special Divine Providence in our lives down here on Earth:
https://www.biography.com/religious-figure/saint-nicholas

I predicted Trump would lose in 2020.

Aside from Democrats’ voting shenanigans, I said Don Trumpleone had done diddly-squat: no Wall, no jailed Hilligula, no returned troops, no end-of-aid to Israel, etc.

All his 300-D chess was bluster. He thought tweets and holding do-nothing/feel-good rallies meant something.

He didn’t kibosh SMG (Social Media Giants) or defend his online supporters from being censored. All he did was help Israel and legal/illegal minorities.

He did nothing for Whites, especially White men.

The mad Mar-a-Lago MAGA mastermind surrounded himself with “obamanations” and other enemies. Instead of sending troops to seal the border and quash antifa insurrectionists, he dawdled. Democrats on the other hand…love ’em or hate ’em…ACT-ACT-ACT! They know this is war and so break rules at-will.

Republicans are all-talk/do-nothing pussies: McConnell, Ryan, Graham, Gowdy, Romney, etc. Even the good ones (Gohmert, Jordan, Cotton, Grassley, Paul, etc. ) just talk.

Republicans hold endless “Thank you for that question, Senator” hearings that do nothing.

And end up angering their base. There’s only so many times you can hear about outrages, then see nothing done about them, before you suspect Republicans are just passive pussies who pose, posture, and pontificate like ineffectual pabulum-spewing Poloniuses.

Why are no Congressperps chaining themselves to prison doors to spring Jansixers?

Why are no Republican leaders at the border with guns?

Why are traitorous turtles like McConnell, concerned only about his next lobster/steak dinner, still in positions of power?

In the current culture war, Republicans are mere reporters, cataloguing all the outrages they let happen. They are Boy Scouts facing off against Democrat Charles Martels, Wellingtons, and Pattons.

Right-leaning social media platforms are filled with commenters mewling, “We must do something!” and “We must hold these bums accountable!” and “Truth will prevail!”

They all DO nothing.

Worse are bible-thumping nitwits who spew shite like: “Have faith in the infinite Passion of bachelor Haysoos…whose mommy was boinked by an angel. He, Himself, was a wino hanging around whores. And urged us, His Followers, to not oppose evil, but be stool-munching, cheek-turning cowards. Amen.”

FACT: Nothing will change if Republicans keep the Senate and take back the House this November. It’s just too late. There are too many loony, CRT-crazed Lefty citizens now. And foreign faggotsos who hate the USA. And too much debt. And too little national unity.

Democrats like boneheaded Biden call for “unity” while shitting on half the country. They call for peace while winking at actual terrorists like BLM-SPLC-Antifa-etc. They’re like feminists who yammer about “equality” while demanding more-more-more perks for vaginates who shit on men (who take it!).

Jews like Nuland-Schumer-Nadler-Blumenthal demand war with Christian Russia.

Jews like Mayorkas and Garfinkel/Garland want the USA borderless and filled with “diversity”…things they oppose when it comes to their true country, Israel.

And all the while, whenever anyone proposes uniting and fighting back, they get told: “NO-NO-NO! That’s what the Left wants.â€�

As if bullies ever stop on their own!

Should the US have not united and fought against Japan-Italy-Germany in WWII because that’s what Tojo-Mussolini-Hitler “wantedâ€�?

Bob Ingersoll talked of ‘the stupid lives of the saints’. Ingersoll had a knack for withering witticisms such as these. Baron d’ Holbach spoke of saints such as these as ‘an inundation of madmen’. Holbach writes that saints such as these were at best useless to themselves and others and at worst menaces to society.

In Roman Catholicism, suffering is deemed meritorious. It makes up what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ, as Saint Paul puts it. It augments one’s position in the post-mortem Jehovitic theme park in the sky. It can be used as a coin so as to release the dead from Purgatory.

Christopher Hitchens called Roman Catholicism: ‘a cult of death and suffering.’

One Atheist recounts how he took a child of his to an historic Spanish Mission Church. There was a room full of crucified Jesii which made his child run from the Church screaming and crying in terror. Spanish Churches in particular love to have extremely graphic and gorey crucifixes.

Christianity is “your crucified rabbi cult� as you once so beautifully put it.

the worshipping of the fetuses of strangers.

Yet feminists want American/European men to protest the killing of female fetuses in China, India, and elsewhere. Hah!

a woman’s right to manage, or end, a pregnancy

And a man’s right not to be a father. “Paper abortions” for men: “Your choice, your obligation, Sista!”

wanting to shame women for having sex

PROJECTING!

It’s #ImaSlut2 bints who demonize/mock male sexuality while lauding Kamala “giving head to get ahead” Harris. They also cheer twats who use casting couches to advance their careers over men. And urge Twitch Thots to use sex to get rich. And salute huge landwhale black ham-planets who twerk their immense odiferous poons, toxifying the environment with Eau de Tuna stench.

blaming her entirely for an unintended pregnancy

As feminists tell men: “She KNEW parenthood was always a risk!”

“all unintended pregnancies are a result of irresponsible ejaculation�

All unintended pregnancies are the result of women not using the Pill: the aspirin held between their knees.

evangelical “Christianâ€� ministers and powerbrokers…control the craniums and influence the voting of alot of their brethren

And feminists teach vaginates to be vulgar, irresponsible, pump-and-dump cockcarousel-riding holes…until they hit The Wall.

there is no actual upside for the R party if a great many states almost entirely outlaw abortion access.

B-b-b-because Democrat dictators hate democracy?

“Be careful what you wish for�

Tell that to feminists who age into cronehood surrounded by cats, anti-depressants, and empty cartons of wine.

Or younger twats who choose careers over kids, aging into solitary solitude instead of being surrounded by families.

FACT: In the future, bints will be drafted to fight on frontlines with other vaginates until they “finally do their fair share” and fill HALF of all military cemeteries.

Also, good luck to pedestal’d pudendates when men finally get fed up and stop farming, driving trucks, repairing plumbing, re-stringing fallen power lines, and doing all the other dirty-dangerous-deadly jobs slits now take for granted.

Very true.
Great message to the gullible and useful idiots who get on fist-fights over who is gonna put them on all four.
“God’s chosen” now rule the planet thanks to the wasp politicians and their followers.

This is a fantastic comment. I agree with everything except this paragraph:

Worse are bible-thumping nitwits who spew shite like: “Have faith in the infinite Passion of bachelor Haysoos…whose mommy was boinked by an angel. He, Himself, was a wino hanging around whores. And urged us, His Followers, to not oppose evil, but be stool-munching, cheek-turning cowards. Amen.�

1. Have faith in his crucifixion and Resurrection.

2. He offers infinite love but God’s patience is not infinite and the opportunity for salvation will be withdrawn at some point.

3. Mary was not boinked by anything but conceived supernaturally through the Holy Spirit, which is not an angel but part of the Godhead.

4. Jesus was not a wino but drank judiciously. He did not hang around whores but whores and tax collectors hung around him.

5. He most definitely told his followers to oppose evil through their prayers and their righteous living. He told them not to repay evil in kind, but to overcome it with good.

6. All of his Apostles took martyrdom rather than give up their faith. I don’t think that’s cowardice but Supreme courage.

Now here’s the big loophole. St Paul says that the government wields the sword in order to establish order which is ordained by God. So when you have a society that is Christian, it most certainly can wage war as part of legitimate governmental function.

I believe that the generals and soldiers in the Confederacy were devout Christians. Certainly Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson were reputed to be very devout. Putin is sending his army into Ukraine with all the blessing of the Russian Orthodox Church. The CIA did its most vicious regime changes in Latin America and Asia in order to prop up Catholic regimes (many of the CIA leadership were devout Catholics).

Christians certainly are capable of being fighters. The problem is they don’t have any leaders today. I’ve often wondered about all those guys in the NRA defending our freedoms. It seems the only freedoms they will defend are the freedom to buy guns and ammunition and shoot them at the range.

The historicity of Jesus and the writings of the New Testament are accepted not only by most Christian Bible scholars but many secular historians

Wow! That Christian Bible scholars accept the historicity of virgin-born, walking-on-water Jewsus makes all the difference. Now I can believe! Thank you, brother in Christ! I’m saved!

They accept the New-Testament narratives too? Well, I guess that makes the Babble infallibly true, like preachers have assured me. Now I can believe the one about the fish with a coin in its mouth. How, d’ya think, did the Christ know there was a fish with a four-drachma coin on its tongue, so that he was able to tell Pete to catch it so the taxes might be paid (Matthew 17:27)? Guess that’s what it means to be omniscient God?

Since the Hebrew Babble and Torah are also integral to Judeo-Christianity, I suppose we must believe that the Creator vouchsafed his Truth to the nation of Israel, eh? And the one about that guy who lived to 950 and saved all the Earth’s air-breathing creatures in his boat? (I’m mystified, though, how he found his way to Australia to pick up kangaroos and koala bears, then navigated to North America to get pairs of bison and grizzly bears, and then, after the waters receded, brought them back to their respective continents….) And the parting of the Red Sea? And the sun stopping for Joshua so he could wipe out Israel’s enemies on that battlefield? Sure! Why the hell not lol?

Uh, but how much does such belief depend on faith? Y’see, I don’t do faith. Faith is willful belief; it’s believing for no better reason than that one wants to. Me, I assent only because compelled to by reason and evidence–and even then I know I know very little, but at best have mostly probable belief.

When you’re able to demonstrate that Jewsus was the only begotten son of Jehovah, that he was virgin-born, raised the dead, and vicariously atoned for your sins on the cross, do get back to me, so I can be blessed like you. Just try to get proof outside the Babble, because bullshit is in endless supply and anyone can write things without their being true: just ask Hans Andersen and the Brothers Grimm.

Oh and secular historians have believed in Christ? How many of them believed in the person your book tells of? They believed he walked on water? Rose from the dead? Fed a huge crowd with a bit of food? A Jesus separate from these inanities is a critter quite different from the one of whom the lol infallible Word of God tells. A moralizing carpenter named “Jesus,” a mortal with a reputation for wisdom and probity, ain’t the same as a divine Redeemer who’ll soon kick Satan’s arse……..

Besides, millions of educated people once believed the Earth was the center of things. They didn’t think the planet was in motion around the sun. They were wrong, it seems. In any case, I’d never trust any historian who said the Vicarious Atonement was an historical fact lol.

Furthermore Santa Claus is a nickname for Saint Nicholas, who was a genuine historical figure from early Christianity….

Yes, I knew that. But I was talking about the fat man dressed in red who spends most of his time at the North Pole–the jolly “ho ho ho” guy who comes down one’s chimney with presents, parking his reindeer on the sidewalk. Different fellow entirely, except in name.

You might want to know, I call myself a Platonic idealist.

Actually, I don’t want to know. But it does sound like some hippy shit from the ’60s.

Find out WHO he or she is, what his or her real actions have been in the past, what interests he or she represents, WHO is funding him or her.

After that don’t vote. Democracy doesn’t work.

Liza: “Don’t forget this bunch, who started out as mere flagellants. … Today, there’s a variant of the Skoptsy, the “transgendersâ€�. This is one goofy world. ”

Yes, you’re right. I should have mentioned the Christian fascination with amputating genitals. Marshall Applewhite and the Heaven’s Gate cult is a better contemporary example of modern Skoptsy however. Transgender people lack the metaphysical motivations characteristic of religious fanatics, and their desire to have the other sex’s genitals isn’t at all the same thing as the latter’s insistence on having no genitals. This Christian hatred of their own bodies and desires is part and parcel of the Christian hatred of Nature generally. In the Christian worldview, Nature is the domain of Satan, full of temptations and obscene lusts. For example, it is only in the wilderness that Christ comes face to face with Satan; Adam and Eve acquire original sin from a talking snake in the Garden of Eden, and so are driven out of it. As your link puts it:

They believed that human genitals were a mark of original sin, and that after the expulsion from the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve had the halves of the forbidden fruit grafted onto their bodies, forming testicles and breasts. Thus, the removal of these sexual organs restored the Skoptsy to the pristine state before the original sin. The Skoptsy maintained that they were fulfilling Christ’s counsel of perfection in Matthew 19:12[4] and 18:8–9.[5]

Of course, in Darwinian terms, such crazy beliefs may have enhanced the fitness of the group even while making individual adherents miserable. In the pre-Christian world, man lived at peace with Nature, and his gods were personifications of its various aspects. I suspect that Christianity’s revolt against Nature was instrumental in causing, in a roundabout way, the emergence of modern technological society. It seems to me that the idea that Nature is something to be subjugated, controlled, improved upon, or vanquished altogether appears in the Western mind only after classical civilization was overthrown by Christianity, and that this way of thinking was necessary in order for technological civilization to develop fully. Man’s estrangement from Nature is a hallmark of the modern world, and was likely an indispensable prerequisite for its creation.

No hater of Christ Jesus can be the friend of the White race. You are an enemy of the Cross and your Father is Satan the liar of all liars…. I rebuke you in the name of Christ, foul Jewish demon.

Oy vey, you found me out. Putz! An dey tole me at de Mossad trainin school dat awl de goyim is schnooks. Go figyah.

Hey Satan ain’t my abba. It’s Beelzebub. Satan’s my uncle, du schmuck.

I vas eatin my suppah o’ borscht and matzo balls, an sippin my Manischewitz, when I get dese cawls from Moe at de ADL an Abe at Mossad, bote sayin you vasn’t fooled so Shut down de operation–de goyim know

I agree that the self-mutilation of Origen is grotesque. But please understand this was only done by certain spiritual leaders aspiring to celibacy. The Christian masses never did this sort of thing. And there’s plenty of eroticism in Christian culture.

You’re correct about a Darwinian element. But it’s very perverse. Usually the smartest and most gifted people were encouraged to go into the priesthood or the monastic orders. They never reproduced. They believed in elevating the more mediocre people through education. And those mediocre people are the ones who reproduce biologically.

Now contrast this with the Jews. In their culture the elite scholar rabbis are provided enormous dowries by the rich parents of beautiful girls. These rabbi scholars have enormous families of 5 to 10 children. So in Judaism the Darwinian selection is for super scholarly hyperintellectual people.

Now compare the two cultures and you can understand where we are today. The Jewish global leadership overseas military and security services made of macho goons.

FACT: In the future, bints will be drafted to fight on frontlines with other vaginates until they “finally do their fair share� and fill HALF of all military cemeteries.

Bint is daughter in Arabic. Is that why you are using this weird term for female?

Tell that to feminists who age into cronehood surrounded by cats, anti-depressants, and empty cartons of wine.

LOL!!! 🤣 I know someone exactly like that. A 64-year-old working woman slaving away at a job she hates because she can’t afford to retire yet.

The truth is that she prefers her cats antidepressants and wine to any man. I think at a certain age women don’t enjoy sex at all. The problem is men do almost to the end. That’s why older men marry younger women because the old crones can’t put out and don’t even want to.

Transgender people lack the metaphysical motivations characteristic of religious fanatics, and their desire to have the other sex’s genitals isn’t at all the same thing as the latter’s insistence on having no genitals.

I disagree. Transgendered people are completely sterile because the genitals they acquire are fake appendages without any biological vitality. I advocate calling them TRANS-SEXUAL MUTILANTS.

You know anyway. You’re broadcasting your ignorance.

Cupcake – You need some strong medications or, at the least, deep psychological therapy.

Quite simply, you are off your ever-living rocker and exist in a self-created la-la land. Good luck…

I think at a certain age women don’t enjoy sex at all.

It requires a good lover and there are too few of those around. Many men have little real understanding of female anatomy or how to best make sex something worthwhile for her. Those that do know, don’t complain about the lack of sex in their lives or bother critiquing the sex lives of others. Capiche?

The problem is men do almost to the end.

Another extremely simple explanation as to why. Do you need me to provide it?

And remember: Republicans are an arm of the UniParty

And remember: The UniParty is the IsraelParty.

In the pre-Christian world, man lived at peace with Nature

Then how would you explain the very old, pre-Christian practices of removing male foreskins, not to mention subincision, flaying, etc., all to prove manhood. Maybe it is a matter of opinion, but that is not my version of man living in peace with Nature. Of course, there were peoples everywhere who never did do these things, but countless tribes have been “modifying” genitalia for aeons. And they are still at it. I wouldn’t be too quick to condemn Christians in this matter, even though a good sized subset of them (evangelicals) do love imposing garden variety “circumcision” on their hapless male children.

You do imply that it was Westerners under the influence of Christianity who first desired subjugation of nature, but it looks as if non-Western peoples came up with this first. Any group of “humanity” (?) would have to do more than hunt, gather and eat monkey meat on a stick over a fire in order for us to claim that such practices make people at one with Nature, starting with respect for the normallcy of genitalia at birth. In my books, anyway.

Just my opinion, as per usual.

Anon[242]: “I agree that the self-mutilation of Origen is grotesque. But please understand this was only done by certain spiritual leaders aspiring to celibacy. The Christian masses never did this sort of thing. And there’s plenty of eroticism in Christian culture.”

It seems to me that Christianity has always been sexually repressive, and so I’m not sure what you mean when you say there’s been plenty of eroticism in Christian culture. Where is the Christian counterpart of, say, the Kama Sutra? Is there a specifically Christian pornography? If so, I’ve never heard of it. Whatever “eroticism” we can attribute to Christianity is so sublimated as to be almost sexless, and to posit a sexless eroticism seems a contradiction in terms. While it’s obviously true that the mass of ordinary Christians didn’t remove their own genitals, the repressive Christian attitude towards sex in many ways served the same purpose. For example, the celibate priests and chaste nuns you referred didn’t reproduce, and so in effect they did cut their genitals off. One could say the same thing about a great many among the Christian laity.

Anon[242]: “You’re correct about a Darwinian element. ”

Just to be clear, I wasn’t referring to the putative eugenic or dysgenic social arrangements you mention. What I meant to suggest is that the emergence of technology advantaged the white race in its struggle for survival vis-à-vis other races, enabling it to eventually dominate the others by incorporating them into its technological empire. If this is viewed as good, Christianity was a plus. However, the subordination of the white race to the Jews, which you seem to lament, I also see as a consequence of that same repudiation of Nature in order to establish a technological empire. I think Jews only have the role in that empire that white people allow them to play; whatever power they have is what white people allow them to have.

Anon[242]: “Transgendered people are completely sterile because the genitals they acquire are fake appendages without any biological vitality. ”

I guess you haven’t heard that due to the wonders of modern technology, MtF trannies can now give birth to healthy babies.

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/03/groundbreaking-womb-transplants-allow-transgender-women-to-have-their-own-babies/

Of course, the objection could be made that these people still are sterile, because the baby wouldn’t come from the tranny’s own genetic material. That isn’t necessarily true though, since it could be the case that an MtF tranny might have saved his own sperm before undergoing surgery and then used that sperm to fertilize a donor egg. It could even then carry the child to term in its own body, and in that sense be both father and mother to the child.

The supreme irony here is that Christianity, by giving rise to the technological system, has created conditions like this that accumulate to cause both cultural collapse and a crisis in faith. It seems that in direct proportion as science and technology rise, faith declines. Technology is reshaping the culture and is now in the process of painting Christ out of the picture. It’s science and not Jesus that works the miracles these days.

Thank you.

Il piacere e’ mio.

Always a pleasure to tell the truth about a foul Sklavenmoral, from which EuroCiv has suffered immensely, and only in spite of which became great.

I’m grateful that there are people like you with enough intellectual integrity, not to mention healthy instincts, to recognize ideological poison.

Well, the issue might be that some assume nature is perfect. In my view, that’s a pretty massive assumption and just not true.

Frankly, if one wants to really assess human anatomy, clearly and practically, plenty can be found disadvantageous with regards to it. One such thing is that piece of skin on the male member. Removing it while a small baby will save that male and definitely his eventual female partner(s) from assorted bacterial issues and disease. That’s the point of doing it and it is a valid one.

The other two things you mentioned were not common, to my knowledge, and are just a part of the extensive collection of “medical” experiments throughout human history.

Frankly, if one wants to really assess human anatomy, clearly and practically, plenty can be found disadvantageous with regards to it. One such thing is that piece of skin on the male member. Removing it while a small baby will save that male and definitely his eventual female partner(s) from assorted bacterial issues and disease. That’s the point of doing it and it is a valid one.

There’s a growing anti-circumcision movement in America and Europe that would dispute everything you write in this paragraph. That piece of flesh is extraordinarily sensitive and removing it reduces the sex experience by about 90%. Nobody believes that hygiene mandates circumcision. A Jewish anthropologist wrote a book denouncing forced circumcision:

I used to be a young earth creationist, but I came to the view that the natural world is indeed hostile to human life. Humans can only thrive in organized societies. This is exactly what American Christianity works against by denouncing any kind of social movement as communism and basically worshiping rich people and telling everyone else to suck it up and wait till they die for some heavenly compensation for their earthly sufferings.

This is why I no longer attend any church. American Christianity is simply a handmaiden to right wing billionaire oligarchs. They have zero true understanding of society and economics. They’re well paid mouthpieces by the Kochs and Buffets of the world.

The fact that the Earth we live on and the universe we live within is highly complex and would seem to be intelligently designed, does not mean that they are favorable to human life. The Christian claim that humans created death by some kind of act of disobedience in a mythical garden by mythical ancestors named Adam and Eve is something I have totally rejected. It’s the ultimate blame the victim mentality and I think is the source of all abuses by organized religious leaders. It’s why Catholic priests abuse children and why Jewish rabbis countenance organized crime and mass violence against gentiles.

The underlying reason is that they consider the rest of us sinners without dignity or human rights and deserve what’s coming to us. While the religious leaders, God’s Chosen, can make occasional slip ups with a wink and a nod from their Creator. And even worse they can countenance Joyous Genocide Holy Holocaust and Sacred Slaughter. There’s nothing more exciting for people than to find Divine sanction for their lowest impulses. I know because I used to be part of fundamentalist Jewish and Christian communities.

Anyway there’s plenty of evidence to show that the natural world is hostile to human existence and is far from perfect. That you would choose the foreskin of the male member as your example is pretty incredible. Maybe your imagination is about as puny as that member?

The Church Fathers like Augustine and Chrysostom were deeply hateful of Jews…. Traditional Catholicism was very anti-Semitic, as were the various branches of Orthodox Christianity.

Judeo-Christians can hate Jews all they want. They can detest, abominate, loathe Jews. They can froth at the mouth from hatred of Jews. They can hate Jews so intensely that they suffer strokes.

They still derive their creed from that same nation. If the nation of Israel were subtracted from history, Judeo-Christianity would go with it. It would go “Poof!” Gone! Can you say that of Hinduism? Buddhism? Zoroastrianism? Aztec Rain-God worship?

And, again, have any Judeo-Christians hated that scion of the House of King David of Israel, that Bethlehem native belonging to the Tribe of Judah? Did even Augustine and Chrysostom hate him? Did they hate his disciples and original apostles, men they believed divinely inspired and authors of holy scripture? And the Virgin Mary too?! Hmm, I knew they were nuts, but not that nuts.

And the fundamentalist denominations, some of whose adherents vituperate Jews–do such Judeo-Christians hate Moses, Isaiah, Elijah, Jeremiah, David the psalmist, Solomon the proverb-maker, Ruth, Esther, Zephaniah, Job, Jonah, etc., etc.? Do they hate persons from whom they’ve derived things like the “Ten Commandments,” the prohibition of homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22), and scriptural passages allegedly prophesying the Judeo-Christian Messiah and Savior? LOL I hardly think so.

And howsoever these religionists feel about the nation of Israel, they nevertheless share with it the Torah, the Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible–i.e., the Old Testament. Which means of course that their superstition is in some measure an extension of the earlier Semitic religion. Of what other superstition can that be said? Does even Islam, whose Qur’an discusses Hebrews and their creed, incorporate these ancient Judaic texts, as Judeo-Christianity has?!

Lol is that what Pharisee Paul was thinking when in Galatians 2: 14-16 he wrote–

….I said to Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles….even we have believed in Jesus Christ….

[L.V.: The emphasis in “who are” is the KJV’s.]

Lol and these are Nietzsche’s–

The whole fatality [Judeo-Christianity] was possible only because there was already a related, racially-related megalomania, the Jewish…. The Christian is only a Jew of a ‘freer‘ confession.

….their [the Jews’] after-effect has falsified mankind to such an extent that today the Christian is able to feel anti-Jewish without realizing he is the ultimate consequence of the Jews.

[L.V.: the emphasis is Nietzsche’s; and the latter passage of The Anti-Christ is from Aphorism 24, though elsewhere in this thread I erroneously said it’s from #44, while the first passage above is from #44.]

Well, it’s pleasant to see that the son of a Lutheran minister, and the grandson of two Lutheran pastors, as Nietzsche was, can find his way back to human decency.

In any case, it’s funny how on one hand far-Right Judeo-Christians hold that Jews are a race, a non-White ethnic group–but then, to try to avoid the obvious fact that members of that race founded their creed, these same Judeo-Christians suddenly represent Jews merely as religionists who deny that Jewsus was the Messiah and who prefer circumcision to baptism…. They want to have it both ways, but they can’t!

Well, funny is a word that describes Judeo-Christians to a T, though unfortunately their superstition isn’t only silly but sinister. To my mind the other true believers in Abrahamic garbage, Jews and Muslims, are jokes too (perpetual children inhabiting a world of figments, fables and conceits, willfully believing wildly implausible things not anywhere near being demonstrably true); but none of them is so ridiculous as Judeo-Christians asserting that their creed has nothing to do with Jews. As I’ve said elsewhere, I think of such J-C’s as well-hooked catfish lashing and twisting but never able to throw the hook, and as little children punching and kicking the ground, crying “It ain’t so! It just ain’t so!”

Well, the issue might be that some assume nature is perfect. In my view, that’s a pretty massive assumption and just not true.

This would hinge on one’s definition of “perfect”. I say that it is perfect. But it is hard to comfortably cope with, so dumbass humans invented, and force on others, countless behaviors and practices to try and get around it. Of course nature win out, all the time, yet we continue to remain ignorant of what’s really happening underneath it all. “Why am I suffering so much?”. So we invent even more nonsense to get around the rules of the game. Hmmm, maybe slicing off body parts will do the trick…

Your comments as usual are erudite and eloquent.

Of course you are correct that Christians revere all of the Old Testament figures. However they don’t really think of them as Jews as much as Hebrews. In fact the book of Hebrews in the New Testament is the one that lists the so-called heroes of faith from the Old Testament. Christians think of Jews as the modern offshoots of the Judean race who rejected Jesus and the church and struggled to survive after the Roman destruction of Jerusalem. That’s my essential point about Christian anti-Semitism.

Of course if you think that all of those Old Testament heroes are also bogus, then I can see your perspective a lot better. Maybe in a sense Christianity versus Judaism is like a Hebraic civil war. And you no doubt would say whoever comes out on top still subscribes to the dangerous absurd and destructive myth, correct?

You didn’t answer my point about large numbers of people in the Roman Empire drifting towards Judaism. People are aware of their approaching mortality and tend to become depressed and neurotic about it. My interpretation of the story in Genesis 3 called the fall of man, which claims that man brought death into the world by some kind of sin in a garden, I reinterpret from a more Buddhist perspective. Namely that man became aware of his mortality, that was always the state of life on this tragic planet, and in doing so brought awareness of death into the world. I also think that all sin and neurotic behavior is the result of our fear of our mortality. So our awareness of death is what causes our sin nature to manifest. I think this is a really good explanation for what otherwise sounds like an absurd story in the bible.

What philosophy do you subscribe to that offers people a measure of dignity in this world and hope after the grave? I saw your website about the European Family. I saw those 60 or so photographs of beautiful women from every country in Europe. I noticed you even had one labeled Ashkenaz which I assume refers to European Jews correct?

The women you display certainly are beautiful. And it’s a tragedy that European history has been so marred by warfare and violence. Maybe Charlemagne was the last great European ruler who nearly unified the entire continent. I think the Jewish bankers and financiers have exploited European rivalries and encouraged warfare between them. Look at Ukraine and Russia. Basically similar people similar cultures similar religions slaughtering each other. Of course the Jewish elites in America and our military industrial state are very happy with this lucrative arrangement.

So lacking an overall Emperor who can forcefully unify all the disparate European countries, I don’t see what hope there is. You are a starry eyed idealist. And even all those beautiful women aren’t just innocent flowers. Most women are amoral creatures who sit on the sidelines looking for a reproductive champion to mate with. They also like people who are rich. That’s why someone like the ultra-European beauty Ivanka Trump not only married a Jew but even converted to that religion. All those European beauties you display on your website could care less about European culture. Ultimately their interests are purely selfish. They want a strong and rich man who can take care of them and provide for their children. And I bet any one of them would jump at the chance of marrying a rich Jew.

I’m not a Marxist but I think Marx was correct that economic relations constitute the essence of the human condition. Perhaps this is my biggest objection to Christianity, which tries to whitewash the problems of systemic economic and political corruption and browbeat you with messaging about Jesus the saints sin heaven and hell, which I think are all distractions from the important issues of money wealth and power. Certainly the church, for all its feigned abhorrence of wealth, is obsequious and bows to the rich and the powerful.

But as I said in the beginning, you are very eloquent and I enjoy reading your comments because they certainly force me to think more about things.

God Zeus Jupiter Thor Bless You

You are all over the place conflating all manner of things – not able to maintain a linear dialogue.

There’s a growing anti-circumcision movement in America and Europe that would dispute everything you write in this paragraph…….Nobody believes that hygiene mandates circumcision.

You, and they, are entirely incorrect and, obviously, very uninformed. Strange how so many people come at this issue with primarily emotionalism instead of facts and reality. The conversations about this topic virtually always devolve stupidly because of that.

You want to look at facts then, I can talk with you but, I also have to advise that the site host is not a fan of this topic so any dialogue probably wouldn’t last long.

Nature isn’t perfect, animals aren’t perfect, people aren’t perfect, the Earth isn’t perfect, etc. It’s false premise; that’s the problem.

The issue isn’t humans testing, tinkering and trying things – we should be doing that. The much bigger problem is how stupid humans are in thinking they understand something when, in reality, they have few actual facts about it. Like this topic, where many simply devolve into emotionalism. That’s the lunacy.

… maybe slicing off body parts will do the trick…

Yes, indeed, it has helped substantially in preventing health problems for both men and women. I’m going to guess that you don’t even know specifically why. Hhmm, problem there….

In 2016 the world was told what plans the cabal has for the christian dumbos of the world. It was an hour long theatrical peformance, a main feature of the Gotthard tunnel opening ceremony in Switzerland . The symbolism of the coming brutality and barbarity is quite obvious. Nobody in the audience even blinked however, and the media swallowed it whole with unbridled silence. The latest Brandon show, and its satanic symbolism, put all that symbolism into direct words for the benefit of the intellectually deficient. Also recall the wall murals in the Denver airport, or the UN Security Council hall. Talk about sautéing the frog for the Last Supper..

Here is the link to the tunnel ceremony

Video Link

You are forgetting that both Christianity and the One God fantasy, along with its later “evolved” version called the Communism, were invented by the Jews for a single purpose: to reduce the Man into voluntary slavery for the exclusive benefit of the inventors. Both concepts rose on the fertilizer of good intentions and unlimited promise, and for that precise reason were, and invariably still are, accepted by Man as valid, true and applicable. It was the Katolikos (ancient Greek for “universal world order”) as originally invented by Eusebius of Caesarea who cut his balls off himself, and later Karl Marx, who was born without a decent pair, and had to cut his balls only semantically, institutionalized the Man into Religion. In modern semantics religion became the “politics”, but the tradition of treating the Man as witless animals for the exclusive benefit of its shepherds and chamans is on display every day right in your face on all channels simultaneously. Call it “evolution”, or more precisely “same shit, different day”.

Liza: “Then how would you explain the very old, pre-Christian practices of removing male foreskins, not to mention subincision, flaying, etc., all to prove manhood. Maybe it is a matter of opinion, but that is not my version of man living in peace with Nature.”

It’s a matter of degree, of course, and in his struggle for survival, I would be the first to admit that man has never lived in perfect peace with Nature. To use any kind of technology at all represents a revolt against Nature, since if the natural were always sufficient, there would never be any need to modify it. In this way even such quotidian items and clothes and shoes could be characterized as a revolt. But it seems to me that there’s a very great difference between a highly technological society such as the one we live in today, in which Nature has been reduced to an inert thing, a mere instrumentality, and classical civilization, in which Nature was alive with gods that needed to be propitiated and worshiped, and that the Christian view of Nature played an important role in causing that shift. Genital mutilation or removal is a part of that. As I see it, circumcision in Christians is a junior version of skoptsy practice.

Liza: “You do imply that it was Westerners under the influence of Christianity who first desired subjugation of nature, but it looks as if non-Western peoples came up with this first.”

That the Industrial Revolution started in Christian lands is simply an historical fact, and that it led to a technological empire where modern life the world over is dominated by technology is another. I put forward my theory as a possible explanation for these things.

Man’s predicament is that he finds himself in a hostile world; a battle of all against all. And not only is the world constantly trying to kill him in all kinds of ways; the dump truck of existence has dumped him off with his heart full of raging desires that demand to be satisfied — the desires of the body to eat and drink and reproduce, to love and be loved. The wellspring of all of these is the desire to keep on living, to satisfy which he is willing to pay almost any price. He is forced into association with others just to survive, and must conquer or be conquered.

As I see it, the Christian religion has worked synergistically with these forces of evolution in order to desacralize Nature. Phenomena such as genital mutilation have to do with the taming of sexual desire, particularly so with Christians, who mostly regard the sex drive as prurient. Also, it’s a way of marking and reinforcing group membership; a primitive technique to master the sex drive and use its energy for other purposes.

MarylinM: “You are forgetting that both Christianity and the One God fantasy, along with its later “evolvedâ€� version called the Communism, were invented by the Jews for a single purpose: to reduce the Man into voluntary slavery for the exclusive benefit of the inventors.”

A voluntary slavery? I can agree with this, for the key question is why whites went along with the God fantasy, and continue to go along with it voluntarily. But the answer I proposed — that in this way we can account for the origin of the technological system, and that Christianity played an essential role in the desacralization of Nature which was a prerequisite for it — doesn’t leave Jews as the exclusive beneficiaries. White people too have “benefited” from technology in that it has allowed them to establish their dominance over all the other races of the world; at least, if that was indeed a benefit. As I see it, the fact that technology entails a loss of freedom is an inherent problem with technology itself, and not the result of Jewish conspiracy.

As I see it, the Christian religion has worked synergistically with these forces of evolution in order to desacralize Nature. Phenomena such as genital mutilation have to do with the taming of sexual desire, particularly so with Christians, who mostly regard the sex drive as prurient. Also, it’s a way of marking and reinforcing group membership; a primitive technique to master the sex drive and use its energy for other purposes.

This is correct but it applies to Jews not Christians. Saint Paul told gentile converts to Christianity not to circumcise themselves. Circumcision remains almost the exclusive domain of Jews Muslims and certain African tribes. It has nothing to do with Christianity. I don’t know why you keep saying otherwise.

All of those cultures are extremely fertile and I believe circumcision promotes early marriage and frequent intercourse with a high birth rate because the circumcised males are deeply traumatized and seek the comfort of the woman’s vagina to heal their wounded organ. This is a form of psychological manipulation to promote family formation and high birth rates.

But again traditionally it has nothing to do with Christianity.

The purient attitude to sex that you mention has nothing to do with the New Testament. This was the unfortunate legacy of Augustine who clearly was highly neurotic about sex. (We also can thank him for authorizing the use of torture and murder against so-called heretics and other deviants from the faith.) But in the New Testament Saint Paul writes clearly that a married couple are meant to share each other’s bodies in ways that are mutually pleasurable. That is hardly a jaundiced view of sex. Paul did write that it’s easier to be single because you are spared much hardship in caring for family and can devote yourself to purely spiritual matters, but he admits that this is a rare calling not attainable by most people.

The liturgy of the Catholic Mass — especially in the Eucharist ceremony — is quite respectful of nature, speaking of its blessings that created the bread and wine of the ceremony. Think back to the Middle Ages with all those peasants toiling in their fields with huge cathedrals towering in the background that they worshiped in every week. I think Christianity found a good balance between nature and technology.

Having practiced Orthodox Judaism, I witnessed that its attitude to nature is truly repugnant. The Talmudic system denigrates unlearned peasant Jews calling them Amay HaAretz, literally “people of the land”. It exalts hyper-intellectualized legalistic snobs who shun honest labor.

It’s doubly ironic that the Christian Zionists support a society that is high-tech and almost completely avoids agriculture. Almost all agricultural products in Israel are grown by Palestinians. And yet the Christian Zionists talk about the restoration of the Holy Land. All of those controversial Jewish settlements that we hear about are exclusive bedroom communities for technocratic Jews to commute into Tel Aviv or Jerusalem to work in their offices. Those settlements are cut off from a meaningful relationship with the land, which again is almost the exclusive domain of the Palestinian people.

So I would agree with you that Judaism in its Talmudic version deems nature an enemy and regards it with contempt. Part of the problem is the story in Genesis 3 fall of Man which claims that nature is an enemy and accursed because of man’s sin.

However in support of your theory I have read stories of encounters between Native American tribes and Catholic Jesuit missionaries who tried to integrate them into their culture. And the Indian tribes would say “We have a perfect society. We live in harmony with nature and with each other. We don’t want your values or your money.” And they would ridicule the Europeans for having filthy cities filled with drunks and sick and homeless people dying in the streets.

“We have a perfect society. We live in harmony with nature and with each other”

Except when torturing and slaughtering other tribes. Which it would seem was almost a full time occupation with the aboriginal peoples.

Also, how would the Indians know that Europeans had filthy cities filled with drunks and sick and homeless?

Anon[126]: “Circumcision remains almost the exclusive domain of Jews Muslims and certain African tribes. It has nothing to do with Christianity. I don’t know why you keep saying otherwise.”

Until quite recently, an overwhelming majority of American males were circumcised. That’s to be expected in what was and remains the most Christian country in the world. I understand that the rate is much lower in Europe.

Laumann et al. (1997) used data from the National Health and Social Life Survey.2 That survey questioned men who were born from 1932 through 1971. Laumann reported that the overall incidence of circumcision in U.S. born men was 77 percent – ranging from a low of about 31 percent in 1932 to a high of about 85 percent in 1965 and declining to about 77% in the last year of the survey.

http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/#:~:text=Laumann%20reported%20that%20the%20overall%20incidence%20of%20circumcision,the%20survey.%20Graph%20by%20Laumann%20et%20al.%20References

The US rate is dropping now because the prevailing medical consensus has shifted to the opinion that it can’t be medically justified. Circumcised still outnumber the intact though.

Perhaps there’s something to the conspiracy theory that circumcision was pushed by American Jewish doctors in order to make it harder for the goyim to identify Jews in the general population, but that seems contradicted by the fact that in the nineteenth century it was pushed mainly by white doctors (notably Kellogg of Kellogg’s cornflake fame, among others), who advocated it as an anti-masturbation measure. Victorian hysteria about sex appears to have been a substantial influence. (LOL, there’s that Christian prudery again!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_circumcision#Masturbation_concerns

Anon[126]: “The liturgy of the Catholic Mass — especially in the Eucharist ceremony — is quite respectful of nature, speaking of its blessings that created the bread and wine of the ceremony. Think back to the Middle Ages with all those peasants toiling in their fields with huge cathedrals towering in the background that they worshiped in every week. I think Christianity found a good balance between nature and technology.”

There is a big difference between just being “respectful of nature” and worshiping river gods and forest sprites. This liturgical respect for nature seems to mirror the Christian respect for the body as “the temple of the spirit”. It’s actually a backhanded way of devaluing each. According to this way of thinking, there’s nothing valuable about Nature in itself. The Christian is taught to think that the only value Nature has is as a means of obtaining items to be used in Christian ceremonies. Likewise, for Christians, the body isn’t important in itself, but only as a vehicle for the “soul”, which each Christian is supposed to imagine he has.

But you do raise a good point in the last half of the above paragraph. The desacralization of Nature wasn’t instantaneous. It gradually emerged over the course of centuries with the extinction of folkways and pagan beliefs. With the fall of Rome, the West entered a technological Dark Age that lasted almost a thousand years. It lasted until around the 14th century, when for a variety of reasons still not clearly understood, people began to question tradition. Why the technological impulse took so long to re-start isn’t known. Maybe it awaited the re-discovery of classical literature, as some scholars have proposed. Or it could be people collectively decided that a thousand years of waiting for Jesus to return was long enough.

Just to bring the discussion back on-topic. Great column, ilana! This is one of your best in recent years. Really gets to the heart of the matter, as far as what’s really important. Always glad to see a reminder about the evil of the tyrant Lincoln. I always enjoy your column, and I’m glad to see that you have so many fans, judging by all the warm & perspicacious comments you receive.

Lincoln was our greatest president; he saved the Union, he built the transcontinental railroad, and he freed the slaves, just as Ilana’s family worked so hard to free the blacks in South Africa.

The question is whether Ilana can be consistent about anything. I don’t think so and therefore I don’t think she deserves any of our attention.

For Pantheos’s sake! You broached and asked so many questions that if I responded to them all there’d be “10,000 words” under my name in the reply header. So I must limit myself to several.

I’ll deal first with what you said at the very end, so as to banish a seeming misunderstanding:

God Zeus Jupiter Thor Bless You

Great! One guy has me pegged for a Talmudic Jewish zealot, and now you suppose I’m a polytheistic Pagan. Well, I appreciate your at least associating me with ancient European and Indo-European religion, because European and Indo-European are what I am from crown to soles, and what I love being; and I like the implication that I have enough of the old Pagan mettle to revere bad-ass macho deities like Zeus, Jupiter and Thor.

However, as my pious exclamation at the top insinuates, my thing is pantheism. Further, those obviously mythical deities are anthropomorphic gods, like Jehovah and Allah, and I find anthropomorphism incredibly dumb. My own style of religion not only eschews it but is wholly consistent with science and reason.

This isn’t to say my creed doesn’t acknowledge miracles. It’s just that the miracles aren’t crazy stuff like turning water into wine and raising the dead, but, e.g., the growth of the titanic Sequoia tree from an acorn; the development of a trillion-celled organism in the womb; the spawning salmon finding the very gravel bed in which it was hatched, after being years at sea and thousands of miles away, and without education, maps, GPS or compass. If such things ain’t divinely marvelous, what the fuck is?!

[Christians] don’t really think of [Old Testament figures] as Jews as much as Hebrews.

Jews and Jewish can denote only religion, but they’re also used to mean an ethnicity and, often in the mouth of anti-Jewish Judeo-Christians, even a race. And it’s clear that Jewish, Hebrew, Israelite and Judean all refer to substantially the same West-Asian, Semitic people. Certainly there’s been admixture from the very early days, but genetic studies show that even today’s Ashkenazim, heavily European especially in maternal lineage, still have very substantial West-Asian heritage as well. Of course, Rightist Judeo-Christians often trot out the Khazar Hypothesis, which has never made sense and has been thoroughly debunked in any case.

Christians think of Jews as the modern offshoots of the Judean race who rejected Jesus….

Well, I think they’re essentially right. Trouble is, that “Judean race who rejected Jesus” also included the men who founded Judeo-Christianity, wrote the NT, peddled the snake oil in Europe. It even included the carpenter who lol turned out to be the Judaic god’s son…. Nor is there any reason to think that the Judeans–(Judean being, by the way, the Hellenization of the Hebrew word for Jew–yehudah–with the Romans adopting that Hellenization) were not in substantial degree descended from those earlier Semites one reads of in the OT. According to the tale, Jewsus himself was descended from the bold, bad Israelite David, or was a member of his tribe (Judah).

Also, I think you’re focusing here on the anti-Jewish J-Cs, to the exclusion of those who conceive today’s Jews as the holy Chosen People–chiefly the imbeciles known as Christian Zionists. The latter seem to think the Ashkenazim and Sephardim are identical to the Semites who received the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” at Sinai (but who, the Christian Zionists don’t usually add, soon thereafter invaded Canaan and, starting with Jericho, mercilessly slaughtered every human creature in the large number of cities they stormed: Cf. the Book of Joshua).

You didn’t answer my point about large numbers of people in the Roman Empire drifting toward Judaism.

I don’t recall your making that point. In any case, though I know of instances of Romans attracted to the older Judaic religion, it was of course the Judeo-Christian cult which came into vogue in the declining Empire. And that’s no mystery. People’s creeds, especially the moral parts thereof, rigidly correspond to where the people are on the path of evolution or devolution–of power or decadence. Swadharma is everything. The declining Roman Empire was a very sad place. So many of the people were slaves, and “free” citizens were beset on all sides by despotism, over-taxation, plagues, barbarian invasion, civil wars, poverty. Judeo-Christianity is a religion of consolation, an alluring opiate for losers and sufferers and the lowly: it said to the decadent and suffering masses, “This world is evil, and so are the people who thrive in it; but a Messiah who loves you will come soon and sweep it away; and, if you’ll just believe, you’ll be exalted and ecstatic forever in the next world, while those evil bastards who oppressed you will get their just deserts…. Those who are first in this world shall be last in the next world–in fact they’ll be punished forever.”

In other words, Judeo-Christianity naturally appealed to people mired in weakness and decadence. (And also to powerful elements, e.g. Constantine, Theodosius, who wanted to ensure and add a dimension to their tyranny over these waifs.) Now, the old Romans of the Republic–the steel-hard Herrenmenschen who whipped Carthage and the Cimbri and Teutones, would’ve lol immediately enslaved anyone who told them they should turn the other cheek and bless their enemies, or they’d have thrown him into the amphitheater to get whacked by a pissed-off bear lol.

What philosophy do you subscribe to that offers people a measure of dignity in this world and hope after the grave?

I wouldn’t know what philosophy could impart dignity to persons whose swadharma doesn’t already feature a natural dignity. (Swadharma: a Sanskrit word which I understand as “one’s constitution as conditioned by everything that’s led up to oneself.”) As for hope after the grave, I don’t know what’s after the grave and am inclined to think there’s no “after the grave.”

Look here, Anon: I could talk of philosophies that have appealed to my nature; but, if I did, I’d make this reply interminable and not just very long. Let me just say that at present I’m most concerned with trying to help preserve EuroCiv and the Europe-descended, and so I’d prefer Whites to have a religion like William Luther Pierce’s Cosmotheism or Ben Klassen’s Creativity–both of them “White-Racialist” and pantheistic. Judeo-Christianity is simply contra-indicated for a Pro-White Movement–self-abnegating, race-neutral, consistent with the myth of equality, doctrinally inimical to self-love and in-group preference and fierce resistance….

Maybe I’ll respond to your other questions at some other point; but now I’m trying to write a piece for my website. All the best.

Great response. Thank you. You’re a fantastic writer. I hope you will respond to the email I sent to your website at some point.

e.g., the growth of the titanic Sequoia tree from an acorn; the development of a trillion-celled organism in the womb; the spawning salmon finding the very gravel bed in which it was hatched, after being years at sea and thousands of miles away, and without education, maps, GPS or compass. If such things ain’t divinely marvelous, what the fuck is?!

Total agreement and well stated.

You truly are an idealist. Good luck creating your pantheistic new world order in Europe. It seems to me Europe has always relied on anthropomorphic religion of one kind or another. First the Greeks then the Romans then the Christians. Even the great Charlemagne work together with the Catholic church in rome. Maybe Napoleon and Hitler would have broken out of the religious shackles. It’s no coincidence that the Catholic Church considers Napoleon one of its most wicked enemies.

Also you avoided my point about all those beautiful European women on your website who would happily marry old ugly but rich Jewish men. Look at Kissinger with his wife Nancy. She liked his money and he liked her big boobs.

Also, all those deities I mentioned in my earlier comment are not to imply you are a polytheist but rather my impression is they all represent the same unitary God in different cultures. Isn’t that correct?

George Carlin lived a sad life- can you imagine a woman loving a moaning little man like that? and he was nowhere near as funny as he thought.

But at least he did not support Michael Vick’s choice to torture innocent dogs, like some elderly ladies did.

When the BLM bowel movement started chanting their mantra I replied NO LIVES MATTER. When Reslug m0r0ns cancelled Roe versus Wade I stated how many more feral ORCs & ANTqueefa vermin would be destroying public & private property if Roe wasn’t implemented?? Why are conservatives so consumed w/ saving the lives of future Dem0cr4p voters?? Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” – Napoleon Bonaparte.

Face it the west is finished

It’s the last stand that they feel they can claim a universalist moral high ground on since they gave up everything else.

“right” is based on Nature. Genetics. Getting rid of (culling) defective genes is a good thing.

….all those deities I mentioned in my earlier comment are not to imply you are a polytheist but rather my impression is they all represent the same unitary God in different cultures. Is that correct?

Well, Zeus and Jupiter are respectively the Greek and Roman names for the same Indo-European god. And Thor is like them in that he’s a lightning-thrower, but unlike them in that he seems to rank lower in the Germanic Pantheon than Odin or Wotan, whereas Zeus/Jupiter seems to have been considered the father of the gods and supreme.

You truly are an idealist.

I don’t regard myself as an idealist. If I am, then so is every other person who practices White or European advocacy.

Like all other White Nationalists or “Europatriots,” I do have my own individual approach to the issues: for instance, I stress the theme of European homogeneity; I think Europeans need solidarity and the kind of exclusive loyalties we see in nuclear families. And this has a solid basis in biological reality. The Europeans are a Family, much more homogeneous than any other continentals. Genetic studies are unanimous in attesting to the striking (as Pult et al, 1994 has it) homogeneity of Europeans, suggesting, as said study states, “a recent common ancestry for European populations.” Coop at al, 2013 (“The Geography of Recent Genetic Ancestry across Europe”) states:

….individuals from opposite ends of Europe are expected to share millions of genealogical ancestors over the past 1000 years.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23667324 From Ireland and Iceland to Russia!

Ironically, there’s a custom among blacks to call one another brothers and sisters, while Europeans are more prone than most groups to see divisions within their ethnic/genetic cluster. Fact is, Sub-Saharans are much more genetically diverse than Europeans are! Europeans, Whites, are the people who can with the most reason call one another brothers and sisters.

Of course, I can’t singlehandedly get Europeans and Whites worldwide to feel and act like a loving family, but I believe that advocating familial awareness among Whites is an under-exploited recourse, and that if I can influence any number of Whites to lean more toward family-feeling than they would otherwise, and to perhaps influence others that way, I’ve done something of value for the Cause….

Nor does one’s having a particular approach mean that, as regards most basic issues concerning Whites/Europeans, one can’t stand shoulder to shoulder with people of different approaches. To a very considerable extent I can agree and act with people from whom I radically differ on important points. Though Anglin thinks Judeo-Christianity an inestimable treasure and I consider it toxic snake-oil, there’s very much we can agree about and strive for together, because, whatever else he is, Anglin is pro-White. Actually, I can feel solidarity with, and loyalty toward, any White who isn’t anti-White…. Even then I’ll prefer him or her to members of the other mega-clusters….

As for the rotating picture gallery, the 57 pictures representing Europe’s tribes, I have it there partly because I believe it’s possible to cultivate a male European’s love of the European Family by showing him pictures of reproductive-age European females. I tend to believe that doing so can reach him on a very deep level, one deeper than any usually reachable by words. I think so because it’s worked that way with me. While always partial to Whites/Europeans, I found myself loving them more after frequenting White-Nationalist websites which regularly showed attractive reproductive-age European women. I felt a definite exaltation at seeing those pictures (something more than sexual, by the way), and increasingly desirous of helping ensure that “the beauty of the White woman will not perish from the earth.” I knew that what I felt was what the meme-makers intended; I was grateful to them and now, years later, applaud them for it; and I knew I’d want to do a similar thing if ever I’d have my own site.

It helped inspire the kinds of feelings described here:
https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/hail-diversity-and-the-forbidden-love?blogcategory=essay

What did Confucius say? “One picture is worth a thousand words”?

That some of the women shown would marry a rich, old, ugly Jew like Kissinger for his money, I don’t doubt.

Say, Anon, there’s been a problem with the message system at my website, and so if you did send a message as you said you wanted to, the reason why I haven’t responded is that I didn’t get it…. The problem was the domain server’s fault, but, since I was late in seeing it, I’m sorry if you spent any considerable time and effort on writing the message. I apologize. You’re a serious thinker, and your work shouldn’t go for naught.

I was looking forward to reading what you had to say, and hope you’ll try again. All the best!

The Republicans have totally blown a slam-dunk midterm election with their idiotic total abortion ban rhetoric….

Well, I don’t know that they’ve blown the victory, but certainly they’ve lessened their chances for the kind of walkover that we need–more in that it will check the Marxists than that it will enable the Repubs–so many of them RINOs–to save Western Civ.

And to think that Roe-guaranteed abortion was immensely to Conservative (White) America’s advantage, inasmuch as blacks used it as birth control and it was heavily used by Leftist White traitors, the Marxist-voting mothers of future antifa filth and many of them mudsharks as well. To thus shoot themselves in the foot, superstition-drugged Conservatives have made the achievement of things they actually need (e.g., an end to the invasion over what used to be the Southern border) more difficult of access…. I’m full of rage toward those dupes of Rabbi Saul. https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/white-americas-latest-defeat

The only way to get people to do things flatly antagonistic to their own interests is to get them to believe that they’ll be rewarded in ways vastly exceeding whatever drawbacks attend self-abnegation. And that’s what’s happened to these Conservative suckers. They’ve been lol convinced that if they’re “unselfish” and they treasure black and commie fetuses they’ll be blissful for all eternity in another world. That’s the post-dated check for which they’re sacrificing real advantages and real protection in the real world.

As for the rotating picture gallery, the 57 pictures representing Europe’s tribes, I have it there partly because I believe it’s possible to cultivate a male European’s love of the European Family by showing him pictures of reproductive-age European females. I tend to believe that doing so can reach him on a very deep level, one deeper than any usually reachable by words.

Yes this is a very effective approach. All those women look like contestants (and potential winners) in any beauty pageant. But did you really mean to include “Ashkenaz” in your pantheon of European beauties?

I did feel a terrible sense of sadness looking at those beauties about the immense amount of bloody warfare that has marked European history in the Christian Age (the last 2000 years). What is your explanatin for that? Mine is very cynical: that women provoke men to fight for reproductive privileges and sit patiently on the sidelines waiting for a reproductive champion to emerge. I believe for all their beauty, women are the cause of most strife in the world. Like Helen of Troy, the bring out the worst in male behavior. Women are ruthlessly amoral creatures who drive males into incessant fighting and warfare.

I got an email from you for a new blog piece. If I respond directly to that email, would that work?

Since we’re talking about Europeanism, perhaps this comment is appropriate. I’d be interested in your thoughts:

Video Link

I’ve been reflecting more on Charles’ very moving speech and tribute to his mother the Queen. It was a very thoughtful eloquent and moving speech. He has a few peculiar mannerisms that I find a bit annoying but the content and delivery of the speech was powerful.

And this led me to reflect on the differences between America and England. I can’t think of a single politician in our country who would be capable of speaking with even a fraction of the eloquence that Charles expressed in this talk. Our political system is like a vulgar barroom brawl. It’s the ultimate darwinian jungle and struggle for survival where everyone is pitted against everyone else. Even a president isn’t secure in his position and is constantly plotting for the next election. And if he feels secure in office he’s scheming to see politicians from his party prevail in upcoming elections. There’s no peace and stability in the American system. It’s just an ugly free for all of constant fighting squabbling rancor and animosity.

I’ve always suspected that the American Revolution was a mistake. I think Christians are particularly hard-pressed to justify it. I know that American Christians love to put the founding fathers up on the pedestal as fervent fundamentalist Christian believers, but everyone knows that’s completely false. If anything Christians should pay more careful attention to what Peter and Paul wrote in the New Testament about submitting to the ruling authority and accepting the power of a king over society. From this perspective it’s easy to see the American revolutionaries as a bunch of thugs and ruffians. I don’t think there’s any Christian justification for the revolutionary war. And certainly in the aftermath the American political system is revealed as a dysfunctionally ugly corruption.

Perhaps that Catholic document of the 19th century Syllabus of Errors is correct after all. We Americans like to think we’re superior to Communists but in fact the American French and Russian revolutions are all part of the same movement to reject monarchy and Divine authority. No one can doubt that politics in America today has become completely dysfunctional and fallen into the sewer. Who can justify multi-billion dollar presidential campaigns? Who can justify all the dirty money pouring into Washington? Everyone knows that the lobbyists write all the laws and the politicians are there to rubber stamp them and then to be paid handsomely for their efforts. American politicians are simply legalized bribe takers.

The election cycle is constant and unending, invading our space and our privacy like an obnoxious reality TV show. Every two years there’s an election for the house of representatives. This means that as soon as someone’s elected he’s already plotting for the next election campaign. This is a gigantic scam. Nobody actually discharges any duties or governs our country responsibly. They’re all too busy feathering their nests in Washington.

The Senate system is set up as a way to undermine popular democracy. It duplicates everything the House Representatives accomplishes with the privilege of undermining all of those legislative advances. This bicameral system is unbelievably wasteful both in terms of resources devoted to endless election campaigns and the fact that the two houses are locked in enmity paralyzing politics in our country.

Now a commie demoNcrat might say “Charles cuts a good image and delivers an eloquent speech, but what else would you expect from someone who grew up in a life of privilege coddled with tutors with homes across the country castles and paid for vacations?� And I can hear that point. However there’s also a fundamental difference between someone like Charles and Donald Trump with his vulgar barely articulate oratory. Or an American black rapper music star with his completely vulgar disgusting lyrics and his serenity destroying music. Yes a lot of privilege goes into creating someone like Charles. But we all have to ask ourselves is it worth it for a society to devote resources to cultivating a leader like Charles or should the most vulgar elements of society be permitted to rise to the top where they are free to determine the fate of so many people as well as to undermine the popular culture?

If there were way to have a monarch without the terrible corruption of his extended family demanding government support monthly allowances castles to live in across the country that would be ideal. It’s the broad corruption of the English nobility that’s disheartening to people. This corruption seems to show up everywhere you have a monarch such as in Saudi Arabia where the thousands of princes live lives of unfathomable luxury. Is there a way to have the benefits of a monarchy without its corruption?

One of the great blessings of a monarchy is that someone like Charles can feel relatively secure in his position and therefore can cultivate higher aims and purposes. Whereas as I said before even an American president never feels secure in office and is plotting the next election or campaigning for his fellow party members. The partisan vulgarity of American politics drags us all into the sewer.

I am willing to state boldly that the American Revolution was a mistake for multiple reasons and we never should have left the British Empire. And if you compare the eloquence of someone like Charles with the vulgarity of Donald Trump and the bumbling incompetence of Joe Biden, there should be no doubt which system has more virtue.

God bless King Charles and God save America.

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”– Napoleon Bonaparte.

I tend to recall someone saying, “Never murder your enemy when he’s committing suicide.” It probably wasn’t Sun-Tzu, but then you wouldn’t need a brilliant strategist, only some common sense, to arrive at such a maxim.

Yet these pious Conservatives have done something far more outrageous. They’ve stopped their enemies from committing a kind of suicide, not to let them die but to let them live in greater number….

Well, it’s all of a piece, isn’t it, with loving one’s enemies, and blessing and praying for them, and returning good for evil!

Getting rid of (culling) defective genes is a good thing.

Clearly. And to think that abortion–which idiots want to abolish–is something which heirs of defective genetic heritage have done and are doing freely, of their own accord, without risk or effort on the part of abortion’s beneficiaries, who include the said idiots.

….did you really mean to include “Ashkenaz” in your pantheon of European beauties?

I don’t regard the bulk of Jews as racially different from ancestral Europeans. I see only ethnic distance. But there’s some ethnic distance between all of Europe’s tribes. There’s ethnic distance between Swedes and Greeks, but no White Nationalist I know of thinks those two European nations belong to different races. Racial distance is what exists between blacks and us, and between Mongoloid Asians and us.

As regards the Jews, anthropology backs me up. The overwhelming majority, especially in the West, are Ashkenazim, 81% of whose maternal lineage has been traced to ancient indigenous European women (Richards et al, 2013); and while the Y-DNA, the paternal heritage, is mostly from West Asia, at least one genetic study (Nebel et al, 2001) found that even Middle-Eastern Jews are closer in Y-DNA to West-Asian Indo-European groups like the Kurds and Armenians than to Arabs.

In sum, the Ashkenazim have a trainload of European and Indo-European heritage, and accordingly that shows in their cranio-facial morphology, hair, skin tone, dentition, etc. That’s why White Nationalists who insist that Jews aren’t White are forever running to Wikipedia to see whether public figures with certain names are White or Jewish. They don’t see that if Jews really were of another race there’d be no need to consult Wikipedia. None of them needs to do so to learn that Whoopi Goldberg isn’t White.

Since we’re talking of women, was Lauren Bacall non-White? Elaine Stewart? Hedy Lamarr? Luise Rainer? And how about today’s Scarlett Johansson and Winona Ryder? If anyone says these actresses were/are not Caucasians, not White, all I can say is that either that person needs eye surgery or I do. But at any rate I know these women were/are cast as non-Jewish Whites and they haven’t needed wigs or face paint or fake noses, things that Halle Berry would require to be half-believable.

The Ashkenazim are not Khazars and though they’ve a West-Asian element it’s not non-Caucasoid, and in any case there are Caucasoid West-Asian and Mediterranean-African elements in millions of Europeans, ancestry that doesn’t make them non-Caucasian. See “Jews’ Racial Nature” and “Caucasian Cousins Worldwide”–

https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/jews-racial-nature
https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/caucasian-cousins-worldwide

When I talk like this, other White Nationalists think I’m whitewashing “the Jews.” But it’s got nothing to do with anything except anthropological reality. In case anyone has doubts about that, let me say in bold letters that Jews are doing everything that so-called antisemites accuse them of doing. Cf. https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/jews-samson-syndrome

….women are the cause of most strife in the world. Like Helen of Troy they bring out the worst in male behavior.

Well, I’d say that they’ve certainly had a role in most strife, in that they’ve shared their men’s desire of territory and resources and dominance; and then too they have often been the prize for which males contend, as in Helen’s case and in that of the Sabine women whom the early Romans abducted, triggering a war with the Sabines. Then again, Plutarch says that it was the Sabine women, the very ones who were carried off, who brokered the peace between their Sabine kinsmen and the Romans, with whom they were happy; and the two Italic tribes became one nation. (Uh, the Romans thought out their caper before they executed it, and were sagacious enough to take only the unmarried, mostly virginal Sabine females–not any wives lol: so Sabine fathers and brothers could eventually be reconciled to the theft, thinking in fact that their daughters and sisters had fared pretty well, especially in that the Romans sweetened the deal by granting them substantial rights.)

But men fight over a jillion things on which they place value: the female is only one of them. Also, I think women inspire men to do constructive things as well, such as in the fine arts.

At any rate, we look at life very differently. I don’t consider women’s instinct to mate with dominant males an evil thing. That’s the way the world works. Natural selection. That’s what Heraclitus means when he says “War is the father of all things.”

As for contacting me through the website, you might try what you suggest, or use the usual route by going through the website. Anyhow, try with just a couple words first. The domain-server people said they’ll resolve the problem, but I haven’t had any messages and they’ve screwed up before.

God bless King Charles….

I can see you’re much more of a “form over substance” man than I. Even then I don’t suppose this mascot (not monarch) is eloquent so much as capable of reading a teleprompter like Tucker Carlson does.

That fellow is in effect as much a king as I am the Grand Duke of China. He’s a figurehead, and has politics I detest. He mentions here, or rather reads, how other cultures have invaded Britain: that’s what’s happened, though his script didn’t say invaded; and it’s less a matter of culture than of race…. As far as I know, that person has never objected to the dilution of the great English nation by Afro-Caribbeans, Sub-Saharans, Dravidians from South Asia, and non-White Muslims.

Sorry, Mevashir: not a figure who inspires my respect. (Actually, I was half-inclined to think you were joking by talking so reverently.) Enoch Powell–now that’s my idea of a great English political figure. He warned of and resisted the imposition of aliens on glorious Britain. And Viktor Orban is my idea of a great European leader–defending as he is his country’s European nature and heritage.

And, by the way, did you know Charles is a climate nut? And has he spoken out against the transgender myth, in view of which little kids in Brighton are taught that boys have menstrual periods too? Has he spoken out against Cambridge U’s rewarding of that Dravidian-Indian professor, who after saying “White lives don’t matter” was not only defended by Cambridge but promoted from associate to full professor?

American politicians are simply legalized bribe-takers…. the American Revolution was a mistake for multiple reasons and we should never have left the British Empire.

A resounding yes to the first proposition, and a perhaps to the second.

I’ve always thought Americans outrageously overestimate the nobility of their empire (that’s what the USA is–not a nation, though it started as one). I think they’re funny when they talk about how free they are. What I recall a Russian Soviet saying to an American–“You think you’re free while we at least know we’re not”–seems pretty much the truth. Americans are free to do what government allows them to do, and that isn’t nearly as much as many of them suppose. They can’t even own landed property (unless there’s somewhere in the USA without property taxes): I, a dual USA and Italy/EU citizen, have had several American properties in my name, but the only house and land I’ve ever really owned–where I didn’t pay rent to a government–has been in the West of Ireland.

Regarding your comparing Trump unfavorably to that English mascot, I must say that since Trump undertook to build a Wall, did deport invaders, did cut off funding for CRT and opposed the 1619 Project, did defend monuments to European and Euroamerican heritage, and now still condemns both the incredibly sinister transgender myth and the demonization of Whites, I must think him worth 100 Charles’s. And I don’t gives a fuck if the motherfucker don’t talk good, if he stands for good shit.

As for your

Lucius,

Good reply. I’ve since reconsidered my earlier enthusiasm about Charles. He speaks well and presents a good image. But all the criticisms you mount against him are valid.

I don’t like all the pomp and circumstance surrounding the Royal Family and all of the sinecures claimed by their thousands of so-called nobility. But it is nice that there’s an institution all the English can admire (at least in theory). We don’t seem to have anything like that in the USA.

About your previous comment about the different tribes of Europe, the only institution that provided a minimal sense of unity to that continent was the Catholic Church. This is why I call you an idealist, because you discount the reality of human evil.

The forces against unity — such as male aggression competition for female sexual favors and the lust for material comfort by women — easily overwhelm the forces for unity. And only a powerful institution like the Catholic Church can somewhat attenuate these destructive forces.

You seem to be in denial of these harsh ugly and brutal realities of human nature. Display all the fair-skinned beauties from across Europe that you want, and there are still no grounds for unity apart from a powerful external organization that forcibly imposes it.

Napoleon Hitler and Stalin all tried to impose an alternative kind of unity on Europe but ultimately they failed. And your vision also will fail. Too bad because it’s a nice one but it flies in the face of the underbelly of human reality that will never allow your idealistic vision to come about. I suggest you devote your considerable talents to a more attainable goal.

Respectfully, Mevashir

This thread seems to have become a private conversation between you and me. If I didn’t know this is Unz, I’d suspect that some shadow-banning is going on. Or maybe we’re boring everyone else–and actually we have strayed from Mercer’s very apt arraignment of Conservatives for defending their enemies’ embryos (!!!!).

On the outside chance that someone is looking on, I’ll reply. Not to convince you, mind you, because you seem to have swallowed Judeo-Christian snake-oil; and no one who’s done that can live much in the real world. Nietzsche is so right when he says

Christianity…. a form of mortal hostility to reality as yet unsurpassed [and which] is at no point in contact with reality….

So out of contact with reality that influenced persons like you judge natural selection as “human evil”!

This is why I call you an idealist, because you discount the reality of human evil.

No, fella: it’s not that I’m an idealist and you’re a realist. It’s that we have a different opinion of events and processes. A difference of opinion based on different swadharma.

Earlier you asked me if I knew of a philosophy that makes for human dignity and hope after the grave. I know of no such philosophy (nor give a shit about “hope after the grave”). But to anyone able and willing to learn, and in this matter that doesn’t include you, I’d recommend a deep familiarity with Nietzschean philosophy. If you studied the latter, you wouldn’t see what you like to see, because Nietzsche would tell you that there is no path suitable to everyone; but a person not wearing blinders can be guided by him out of the morality morass. As that great Deutschlander and “Good-European” says, there are no moral facts whatever. Morality as truth is the purest load of bullshit ever to come out of Eurasia.

Valuation is never objective reality; it’s subjective, perspectivist, relative to the valuer. Moralities tell us very little about life and the world, but they say everything about the believers in them. Moral judgments are opinions based on what people are.

Where fighting over women is concerned, men who have been strong enough to defeat other men and take their women have tended to think it’s good, right, splendid! Genghis Khan included among his “the sweetest things in life” the conquest of one’s enemy and “clasping his wives and daughters.” On the other hand, weaker men not capable of that, but rather liable to be conquered and to lose their women, have tended to judge it evil….. Lol, well they would do that, wouldn’t they.

And which group has been right? Neither! Lol neither is right, but only entertaining different opinions from different perspectives.

In the gross decadence of the modern West, you and millions of others endlessly fret and agonize over “man’s inhumanity to man.” Well, the Vikings didn’t. They loved this life, this actual world, not despite its conflicts but for them. They loved it and its conflicts so much that they looked forward to an extension thereof after death. They believed that if they were bold and fierce warriors they’d go to Valhalla where they’d fight every day, slaying and sometimes being slain, but in any case going every evening to the feast of heroes, there to gluttonize, get drunk and jump on a curvy blond Valkyrie. Similarly, other vital, life-loving Pagans, like the Egyptians would be entombed with weapons, even chariots, for use in the next life–because how could one be happy without such things?! I love and honor their memory for their utter psychological health, their love of life and this world.

The Viking was a crude brute, you say? Unevolved? Well, he’d have likely said that you are devolved–decadent, a weakling, a coward, a slave by nature. Who’d be right? When Attila, King of the Huns, harangued his savage warriors before the Battle of Chalons, he mentioned the joys of the coming battlefield and said he’d throw the first javelin. You would consider Chalons an example of the brutal and harsh realities of human nature. That’s your opinion. To the Huns and their vassals who fought Chalons, war was something than which nothing was more exciting, enlivening, ennobling….

Now, while the Huns’ valuation of fighting was no more intrinsically right than yours, but only relative to who they were, it must be said that at least their opinion didn’t jar with the nature of life on this planet. Fact is, we aren’t made in the image of a god of love but are part of a Nature, an Animal Kingdom if you will, among whose hallmarks are competition and predation. And to bring Nietzsche in yet again–

….intrinsically, an injury, an oppression, an exploitation, an annihilation can be nothing wrong, inasmuch as life is essentially (that is, in its cardinal functions) something which functions by injuring, oppressing, exploiting, and annihilating, and is absolutely conceivable without such a character. —from aphorism 11, The Genealogy of Morals

Again, Anon/Mevashir, swadharma is everything…. It determines perspective. And withdrawal of moralic acid lol from your psychophysical system, together with big doses of testosterone, would certainly alter your perspective!

Ah, but ideological snake-oil peddlers–among them the Roman Church, the greatest criminal syndicate in history, wildly successful through falsehood and psychological terrorism–always tell us that there are a RIGHT and a WRONG written in marble tablets in the sky: a Right and Wrong after which we must pattern our lives in terms of pursuit and avoidance, so as to secure the maximum of well-being while avoiding the maximum of woe LOL…. Such snake-oils always aim at control; they’re a form of predation, though they may, as in Judeo-Christianity’s case, demonize predation; and they enable the Roman Catholic Church to accumulate immense worldly power and wealth in the name of Christian humility and voluntary poverty LOL….

I’ll answer your other points, ol’ fella, if there’s a sign of life here from some other commenter and it relates to our points. Otherwise, I think we’d better cut our dialogue short, because I see no prospect of either of us changing the other’s opinion of the value of life.

Correction: the last part of the quotation from The Genealogy of Morals (in comment #187, reply to Anon/Mevashir) should read:

and is absolutely inconceivable without such a character.

[Ilana Mercer is] quite OK with Big Apartheid.

Really?! Aw Pantheos, I love her!

She has many essays praising Whiteness. And of course damning the dirty, stupid, and dangerous n*iggers.

She’s getting more impressive as you talk of her! And she certainly knows the critters you pity and patronize–as does anyone acquainted with blacks’ global IQ, scholastic and violent-crime levels, you utter fool.

P.S. That her father was or is a Rabbi doesn’t make her less White than she is, which is fully.

Interesting to learn that more Juantaviouses and Shaniquas equals a victory for White heritage Americans.

I get your point and I agree. Actually, it’s a terrible defeat for White Americans, a shooting themselves in the foot, an “own goal.”
https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/white-americas-latest-defeat

But, trouble is, the only Whites who consider it a victory are those who don’t desire or even think about specifically White victories! These asses who overturned Roe are civic nationalists, and are so mainly from the Judeo-Christian superstition, which consists with the notion of equality, with its all “souls” being equal in the sight of a god.

All but a very few believing Judeo-Christians avoid White Nationalism, naturally gravitating to civic nationalism with its absurd assumption that all human groups are interchangeable. And even the few exceptions are counterfeit when put to the test. E.g., a J-C like Rockaboatus will talk as though he’s a White Nationalist, a true partisan of Caucasians. But he’ll work for and rejoice over abolishing abortion, so there can be twice as many Juantaviouses and Shaniquas, and the violent black-on-White crimes in America can go from only 1480 per day to 2960, while the overwhelmingly Marxist-voting black electorate can be twice as large.

That’s why the existence of so many J-Cs on the Right is such a problem for actual Pro-Whites. I wouldn’t know how to solve the problem, because there are so many of them, and they’ll vote for people like Trump and DeSantis who are of some substantial value to us…. the trouble is they ordinarily won’t go farther than that, and won’t see the war as racial above all. They won’t put their race above their superstition, and whenever these two things conflict, expect a betrayal of race.

The Judeans who peddled this virulent opiate long ago, knew their business.

Dear pro-lifers,

If your mother, or the mother of your children, was pregnant and so sick she thought she should not continue, are you going to wave that ‘baby killer’ moniker in her face like you’ve won something? Or let a jewish or muslim doctor decide if she is sick enough to obtain a procedure? Also you know in your heart and mind that wealthy women with resources will always be able to obtain any procedure she desires, it’s just women of the working class subject to enforced virtue. Some preacher or politician taught you everything you need to know about reproduction…