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I would like to see a design upgrade—a reader-centric website with good graphics and typography. Off the top of my head, the James Clear site or newsletter is a good example of minimalistic, clean, and readable design. https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits
Here’s an actual article: https://jamesclear.com/stay-on-the-bus
Ron, looks like the Search function isn’t working. When I search for articles by any author for the dates 2024 to 2025 I get the message “No results found.” I’ve noticed this for a little while. Thanks!
The last two articles I’ve read (“Contradictions and Certainties”) are displayed with a right margin MUCH too large, truncating graphics and shortening text lines excessively. Never seen this before on this site.
How about adding a thumbs up/down for articles?
1. The website is very slow to refresh pages
2. When I rely to someone and post the response, I am at the bottom of all the comments, awaiting moderation check off. I then want to return to where I was to continue to read comments after the one I responded to. So I click on the comment authors name which returns me to the point I was at. But if I don’t wait 5-10 seconds before doing this, I will jump to where I was but then be immediately returned to the new comment at the bottom of the page. Then I have to do the click again and it will work the second time.
3. When I make a comment, which is awaiting moderation and then return to the page at some future time (I keep many pages open in tabs), I then have to hit F5 to refresh the page. When I do this, I expect that when the refresh is completed, that I will be returned to the comment I had previously made. But this is rare. Most of the time, I am returned up-page to some previous comment I made or to a reaction I made to some other commenter. This is annoying and I then have to scroll down to where I left off, which is my last comment.
4. Would be nice to have additional reactions (the yellow block single words). How about ‘Shrug’ for not important or whatever?
5. Would be nice to have image storage provided by TUR. With the other free services, images get lost from TUR responses/threads when the service deletes images tied to disposable or temp accounts.
6. Would like to see 5 comments/hour allowed on a single thread.
Mr. Unz,
Post-Karlin OT267 has passed 900 comments and needs replacement when you have the opportunity.
Many Thanks
PEACE 😇
I do not speak for Mr. Unz, but I believe I can shed light on a couple of your suggestions.
Chances of this are near zero.
A link to a copyright violation or other inappropriate material generates little liability for the site. Hosting such an image is potentially much more legally problematic.
It would also require new code and additional system resources.
IIRC — Increased posting tempo was introduced and rescinded a year or two ago. It allowed the flamers to flame war each other more enthusiastically, while yielding little additional high value content.
PEACE 😇
No. It’s perfectly fine. Ron Unz wants to provide lots of reading material with easy access. The best way is to link to it as much as possible from one busy main page like this. (Then, too, you can see most of it on the RH sidebar when you’re reading any article.)
The best thing is: No ads and crap jumping around trying to sell you something!
Finally, I know this may be in contradiction to the JamesClear (2nd) article I just read from your link, but I get used to things, and if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Hear, fucking hear. The computer world is far too into ‘improving’ things.
If I get into a car, I don’t want to discover the engineer thought it would be exciting if he switched the brake and the gas. Nor do I want to find out that the significance of the black and white wires has changed since the last time I wired something.
I want things to goddamned work, and that’s all. I don’t want to understand what you just did. That’s not why I’m here.
Exactly, Colin! In an old post, Software as a tool, I explained this very same thing. Excerpt:
I wrote that 7 years ago. Time flies. Since that date, I have not updated the O/S on this computer.
The linked images from Anglin’s last post (Mimetic Monday) all get cropped on the right side for me. Using Chrome on a desktop.
Archive Steve Sailer’s blog since he’s no longer posting to the Unz Review.
Agreed, but also, how about this? If Mr. Sailer is really done here, then do as with the Russian guy, and have a thread once a week*. We commenters might want to still converse there. I suppose each thread could be cut off at some comment count, but they trickle off anyway, so just do it weekly. (Or iSteve could throw in a quick post to get it started each time.)
Yes, your commenting system is THE BEST.
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* I see that Karlin’s is even less frequent, but didn’t this start at about weekly?
I’d actually been thinking of suggesting the exact same thing if Steve has indeed stopped posting here.
Things have worked out fine with the “Karlin Community” over the last couple of years and it would be easy enough for me to implement the same sort of thing for the “iSteve Community” if they were interested.
I obviously don’t want to have to moderate the comments or get someone else to do that. So what I was thinking of doing was setting things up so that all longtime isteve participants have their comments automatically approved. That would prevent interlopers from joining in and disrupting the style of the discussions with their very different sorts of views.
Anyway, when I have a chance, I’ll leave a note on the current isteve thread and see what people think of the idea.
You might want to consider running this article by Elizabeth Nickson
https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/give-us-back-our-fuing-money-how
It’s a great article.
Mr. Unz,
Addition of the “AI Summary” button has created a site formatting bug. Article text is being pegged to the left side of the screen as if the system is intending to display 3-column format.
The undesirable wrap is aligned to the left edge of the AI Summary button in the top of article bar. Presumably that indicates that a “column” command exists there and is not being closed correctly.
Scrolling further down page so that the bottom bar of article bar appears with the Gab and AI Summary buttons causes normal site formatting to resume. This would seem to confirm that the issue is in the top of article bar.
Many Thanks.
PEACE 😇
Mr. Unz,
New articles are not exhibiting this bug. I will post again if the issue returns.
PEACE 😇
Mr. Unz,
Post Karlin Open Thread 268 is slowing and becoming unstable.
A new one would be appreciated.
The “column formatting” bug returned in this post.
https://www.unz.com/article/the-world-after-gaza-w-pankaj-mishra/
All text in the article body is trapped to the left of AI SUMMARY button in the top button bar.
PEACE 😇
Mr. Unz,
Should the new post Karlin OT be #269? Not, #268-2?
PEACE 😇
IOW, secure the HBD tree fort and keep any new people like me out? That last sentence is hard to reconcile with TUR’s announced purposes.
If you’re going to disrespect your principles of open discussion with “very light moderation,” why not require Mr. Sailer to continue his own Whimming?
I was able to fix this problem, by turning down the Zoom percentage in the browser.
It would be helpful if there was an instruction page on how to use html in this “Leave a Reply” box, besides the useful <b>, <i> and <blockquote> buttons. Adding “Embed Link” and “Embed Image” buttons to the “Leave a Reply” box would also make commenting easier.
Also, some html renders in the Preview, but not after you publish. This is what I inputed below and it rendered in the preview (except the “underline”), but will probably not render in published form:
Seems reasonable on the face of it.
Now you’ve caused me cognitive dissonance.
Mr. Unz,
Post Karlin OT269 is approaching 900 comments and is performing poorly. A new thread would be appreciated. Thanks.
PEACE 😇
On second thought, if Steve Sailer is just reposting his Takimag articles to the Unz Review (as it seems to be the case right now), then wouldn’t it be better to rebrand him as a columnist?
In the last few days, any X/Twitter posts I’ve tried to embed here result only in the publication of links to each post.
I’ve seen evidence of this in Priss Factor’s posts as well.
Just curious as to what might be happening. Older embeds still appear as they originally had when first posted.
The most recent iSteve post was well past 800 comments, so I’ve gone ahead and created an Open Thread as I’d promised:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-1-2/
Moderation is a problem which is hardly unique to TUR. Reddit’s solution is to create communities with designated moderators – often just power users who are inclined to that sort of thing. (That’s how I understand it, at least.)
Perhaps Ron could consider nominating some frequent isteve commenters to moderate his new community “roughly in the style as Steve would have” or to, even, suggest topics/threads.
It would be nice if there were appeals system for when that moderation proves too heavy-handed (or not heavy-handed enough).
Though maybe that’s all too complicated. It would be nice to have a thoughtful and non-woke Reddit alternative…
Apparently, Twitter has made some unfortunate rendering changes at its end. I’ll have someone look into it and see if anything can be done.
It’s possible that a wave of angry responses will force Twitter to change things back again.
Dear Ron,
On the Steve Sailer Open Thread, how come some new comments are blue, and others are white? To see the new white comments, I have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the thread.
Whitewashing Sailer’s disgraceful Whimming, perhaps?
Mr. Unz,
In order to live up to the masthead “Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media” will one of your top two stories for Monday be about Erdogan’s arrest of Imamoglu?
• Coverage is scant.
• It has direct bearing on Turkish HTS in Syria.
• It could impact Türkiye’s membership within NATO.
Populist sources are doing better than the mainstream, but not by much: (1)
There must be better coverage…
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://instapundit.com/710192/
Do “[p]opulist sources” include breitbart.com, from which you scraped & wiped onto TUR’s Newslinks Poll: Majority of Gazans Would Relocate if Allowed a few hours ago?
Thanks for letting me know that Breitbart has an article about Imamoglu. I went ahead and added it to the Newslinks collection for you.
Your assistance is appreciated.
PEACE 😇
Mr. Unz,
Any chance eligibility for commenting on the new open forum could be expanded?
E.g.
(1) 1,000+ past comments anywhere on TUR, and/or,
(2) 50 comments on Steve Sailer’s blog over the past 3 years.
Yes, self-interested request.
As always many thanks for running perhaps the most open forum on the entire Internet.
So, mulling over the Foreign Policy actions of Trump in the past month, I can’t recall a time when My admittedly modest hope: No more global hegemony, have been so exposed as idiocy. That made me wonder just how many more have seen the light, and that raises the question of : Wouldn’t it be good if Unz.com had a polling feature to get a sense of these things?
Dear Ron,
Just now, I clicked on “11 New” on the Steve Sailer Open Thread 1. All the new comments were in white, not blue, and the browser didn’t go directly to the new comments. I had to scroll down to the bottom and read them from the bottom up. If the new comments are in blue, the browser goes directly to the first blue one. Am I making myself clear?
Okay, I slightly loosened the restriction to 50 comments since January 2023.
If that’s not enough to get auto-approval, you can leave sufficient moderated comments that are acceptable enough to be approved, and gradually reach that 50-mark. Admittedly, the approval of moderated comments is sometimes a little slow.
The iSteve commenters had always expressed concerns that the “crazy commenters” from the rest of the website should swamp them.
Hmmm… I’m not sure about the problem but I’ll try to take a look when I have a chance.
Hello, Mr. Unz. I’m in agreement with Desanex on the bug – however, it’s gotten wackier (no comment numbers), but that makes me figure you are in the middle of working on this. Thanks.
Also, I want to thank you for something that makes your site much better for me, which is the prevention of the embedding of tweets, at least on the Open Thread for Steve Sailer that we are talking about. (Is it the same now for ALL posts?) It’s much due to my having so much stuff loaded in memory – probably 200 tabs right now ;-{, but the page loads right away now with no jumping around as tweets get uploaded. Often at 700-800 posts or so, the page used to have to reload, and then, even with your stuff working nominally, I’d lose all the info on new comments.
That leads into my next thing: Will you add a new SS thread soon? I thought it was to be weekly, though you never said that – I did. I assume he’s done writing here.
But why should the publisher of this (“very lightly moderated”) website coddle people that childish, even after his departure? Are you just trying to hold on to their traffic?
I recently tried to add the Unz Review to a podcast app, and the search function refused to admit that there was any podcast with “Unz” in the title. I eventually added your podcast by manually entering the RSS feed, but I suspect that is beyond the capacity of most civilians. In other words, it looks like the podcast search providers might be shadowbanning Unz.
I don’t know if that is a fixable problem, but I thought you should know about it at least. The search providers in question here were “Apple Podcasts” and “Podcast Index”.
Mr. Unz,
This may (or may not) help in troubleshooting.
For some time certain commenters, notably “@Sean”, always appear as white background without the “new” blueberry characteristic.
Has the enhancement for post-Sailer OT automatic approval added names to a table that has included @Sean for some time?
PEACE 😇
As others have said, including the highly respected commenter “called” Desanex:
The (new) Steve Sailer Open Forum discussion-thread has lost its former functionality of highlighting new comments in blue. The page/thread opens as a normal URL. One has to jump around to look for new material. The “new comment” functionality has vanished.
This applies to these threads:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-1-2/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-2-2/
Okay, I’m tied up with a few other things, but I’ll take a look at it and try to fix that strange problem when I have a chance.
Here is a suggestion.
Refrain from posting your own articles on the Open Thread that serves as Sailer’s sandbox. You already have
your designated place.
Maybe you pulled too hard when unplugging Sailer’s moderation software.
Dear Ron Unz,
I respectfully request to be blocked from commenting on this website. Also, how can I download all my comments? I am the only one who will ever read them again. Feel free to delete all of it.
Sincerely,
Kumbaresu.
Achmed E. Newman commented: (1)
I concur. Those of us with “non-premium” mobile devices also have issues with embedded tweets/Xeets causing excessive load & crashes. This has been a problem on the post-Karlin OT’s for some time.
Please do not re-enable embedded tweets. Current TUR performance & system behaviour is an upgrade.
If someone wants to present text and graphics from an X post, it is not hard to copy/paste that content with much lower system load.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.unz.com/announcement/bugs-suggestions-3/#comment-7051294
Mr. Unz,
The current post-Karlin OT made it to 1,200+ comments, but it is beginning to slow. A new one would be appreciated.
Many Thanks.
PEACE 😇
Dear Mister Unz, what about an RSS feed for individual authors, or does it already exist? Example: https://www.unz.com/author/ron-unz/ .
Dear Mr. Unz,
Thanks for the Sailer open threads. Unfortunately, the discussion there is not very interesting. I wonder if it would be possible to write a script that would scrape the first paragraph of text from each of Sailer’s Substacks and post it along with a link to Substack as the intro to a new open thread on TUR. This is how Sailer himself used to manage commenting at TUR on the articles he wrote for Taki’s mag. Or, if that is too cumbersome, it could be a once-a-week scrape and post of the week’s Sailer Substacks. Or maybe a long-time commenter would be willing to do something similar manually.
It’s never been more so, although some may not like it.
Sailer’s purported dissidence is using race to play copium denmother for disaffected white guys skewing 40+. In practically every other respect — and, thus, effectively in that one — he endorses or stands silent on behalf of the Establishment.
This had been obscured to some extent because the man abused his “at whim” moderation privileges to coddle commenters who amplified his lukewarm takes (and, apparently, a few others who sent him money) while suppressing those who refuted them. Now that the playing field is level, open discussion has shown an increasing number of us what his shtick is really about. (And without the Whimming, we can refer back to comments by number, as those no longer tick upward with each upthread blueberry emerging from heterodox purgatory.)
Let things play out for the time being. A couple of the “long-time commenters” are already “scraping” his Substack posts, but even one of them is apparently becoming, pardon the cliché, red pilled about Steve Sailer.
And Chrisnonymous has been participating, including this revealing comment less than a week ago:
What some people really miss about that old HBD tree fort is the echo.
Today, a tranche of new comments in blue boxes appeared in Sailer Open Thread No.3. The system auto-jumped to them; the “New comment” and “Next new comment” features returned. but only for these few. Some of them date to 3 or 4 days ago.
The problem looks to be that auto-approved commenters are not having their comments appear in blue boxes. The old system functionality looks to still exist for manually-approved comments. This is, naturally, be relatively more of a problem when comment-numbers in a thread gets into the hundreds.
For years now, whenever I try to register THANKS for a Newslink, I’m told
The screen for these oddities resembles that for the cutoffs when I’ve already hit the three per hour comment limit on a thread.
Reported previously, but maybe this has since been figured out or the additional details will help. Thank you.
There is need for a new Sailer Community Open Thread:
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– Steve Sailer Open Thread 1 (March 16 – March 28, 2025): 1,095 comments
– Steve Sailer Open Thread 2 (March 26 – April 3, 2025): 806 comments
– Steve Sailer Open Thread 3 (April 1 – April 11, 2025): 1,052 comments
(average over the period, March 16 to April 11 = 110 comments per day)
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https://www.unz.com/author/steve-sailer/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-1-2/#comments
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-2-2/#comments
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comments
Sorry for the delay, but I was tied up on other things. I’ve now finally tracked down and fixed the problem.
This week is the 30th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, a subject you once discussed in a fascinating piece about mysteries of the 1990s. Would you ever consider doing a deeper dive on this topic? Last year I attended a presentation by Charles Key (https://www.charleskey.com/blog/oklahomabombing), who was a member of the Oklahoma legislature at the time. In his lecture, Mr. Key did not indulge in theorizing about the event. Rather, he merely pointed out numerous important questions that government investigators either completely ignored or failed to provide plausible answers to. Mr. Key led his own investigation, cataloging the known facts, raising many of the important questions, and highlighting what appear to be critical gaps in our knowledge. Mr. Key published a final report of his work that might be a logical starting point for anyone, including yourself, who might be inclined to delve into the matter (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CX97T14C).
As a very, very small favor, could you change the title of Steve Sailer’s 4th Open Thread to read “4” instead of “3”? I can see this getting confusing later on.
The URL’s end with 1-2, 2-2, 3-2, and 3-3. I’d assumed that 2nd number- all 2’s until now, represented the 2nd writer with an open thread – Karlin being the 1st with no 2nd number. In that system, this latest thread ought to have 4-2 at the end of its URL.
Not a big deal at all, but thanks.
Mr. Unz,
The post Karlin OT has passed 1,000 comments and could use a refresh.
Many Thanks.
PEACE 😇
Thanks for taking care of that, Mr. Unz.
I have approved comments that do not show up in my personal timeline.
Example:
Comment 212:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/open-thread-3-2/#comment-7064548
Should at the time of writing show up at the top here, but doesn’t.
https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Pericles
Same issue with comment 211 in the same thread.
Your archive for Richard S Dunn shows 11 books and several articles. What is not clear is that Richard Sherwood Dunn, whose republished dissertation in the experimental analysis of behavior (psychology department at the University of Florida) is included as one of the 11 books, is not the same author as the Richard S Dunn who wrote the other 10 books and all the articles, and was chairman of the history department at the University of Pennsylvania. The middle name of this Richard S Dunn is Slator.
Correction to my comment:
Your archive for Richard S Dunn shows 7 books and 11 articles. What is not clear is that Richard Sherwood Dunn, whose republished dissertation in the experimental analysis of behavior (psychology department at the University of Florida) is included as one of the 7 books, is not the same author as the Richard S Dunn who wrote the other 6 books and all the articles, and was chairman of the history department at the University of Pennsylvania. The middle name of this Richard S Dunn is Slator.
Mr. Unz,
Post Karlin OT 272 has passed 1,000 comments and could use a refresh.
The Sailer OT probably could use a new thread too.
PEACE 😇
The RSS feed has only ONE entry on it for Tuesday, for PCR!
No new posts today so far. Is Ron OK?
Wow a lot of smarty pants comments!
My comment is further down the cerebrality scale.
Yeah it is unbecoming on upscale, high SA websites but how about some Merch?
I cannot find an ‘American Pravda’ t-shirt on the web.
Nylon, dark blue with dark red letters would be nice.
Ya gotta sell yourself.