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For those interested, here are my two most recent articles, both on Donald Trump and his surprising new tariff proclamations:
- President Donald Trump and Chairman Mao
The Unz Review • April 7, 2025 • 3,800 Words - Donald Trump’s Looney Tunes Trade Policy
The Unz Review • April 14, 2025 • 3,800 Words
I’d also very strongly recommend this long discussion at the Hong Kong Asia Society by Prof. Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia University:
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The one third from the right is a Rocket Scientist entrepreneur only fans model.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14621665/conspiracy-fake-HAND-Blue-Origin.html
I used to date this lady in my youth, one of the very first lady astronauts:

Stefanyshyn-Piper was raised in the Ukrainian cultural community of Minneapolis–Saint Paul, is a member of Plast – a Ukrainian scouting organization,[6] and speaks Ukrainian.
The Daily Mail is always on the job. Yesterday they reported the mission logo is an upside down baphomet.
The electric blue in the image does make it look like a photoshop job. The Daily Mail is doing yeoman work kind of as shown in this video. Message is at the beginning then later Clorinda at ~ 4:17.
Did you ask her about Project Paperclip?
Nah, I knew her before she got involved with NASA. Besides, she was born in the USA. Her mother was of German descent, but I don’t think that she had a scientific background, a housewife as I recall.
You dated a housewive? Easy there old man…:) And you accuse others of godlessness. But I give it to you she was quite shapely, the Ukies are a good stock…
Hitting the palinka too much lately, even during the daytime?
I was clearly referencing Heidi’s mother you Do Do Bird:
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They say that NASA sent up the first lady astronauts with bandoliers of 100 tampons because nobody knew what would happen up there, and they wanted to take the worst Earthside example and add a safety factor.
(And I could go into more details but won’t)
Clif High testifies that he has spoken with bug alien life forms here on earth. If you pay close attention you realize that he was under the influence of psilocybin mushrooms during the episode but he just slips that part in there. The bug aliens are the bad guys in his cosmic warfare narrative.
Putin was presenting the hostage family he believes he saved. Their grandmother was also released in November 2023, which is from the government’s pressure, while the Amazon software engineer Trufanov was released in February. .
Putin says awkwardly thank you to Hamas and they are saved because of result of the relations between Russia and Hamas political leadership.
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In its meetings with Hamas, Russian government and religious authorities, has just moved this family higher in the Hamas priority list for release and probably made Hamas feed them more food.
Hamas doesn’t want to damage its relation with Russian government, which still formally recognizes political relation, so they were releasing hostages from families with Russian passports in a better condition.
So, Putin’s pressure helps Hamas release the family and feed them more, but also probably also other hostages are not released because in the agreement Hamas only releases specified number of hostages.
The similarity of Meloni and Macron seems like an example of unimportance of voting in many European countries.
She markets as “right-wing” while Macron markets as “centre”.
But real policies of Macron and Meloni are difficult to see very different.
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There differences which seem to exist are more in terms of symbols.
Macron wanted a different statement about the G7 about the importance of the right to abortion, while Meloni doesn’t want this statement.
Meloni criticizes some of the German funding for NGOs which help immigrants, while Macron doesn’t criticize Berlin in this area.
The US releasing millions of needles into space was not a bungle, but an act of great foresight. Next, we only need to send up the bales of cloth for these amazonauts to sew.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_West_Ford
Who knows, perhaps open heart surgery too? But alas, the copper needles have diffused long ago…
You get around Mr.Hack: all ages and full female representation of the Nazi alliance, good for you. I have no idea what palinka is, another one of your romantic interests?
Did you ever see Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country? Haven’t seen it in a great many years, but IIRC, there is a scene with
That is to say nothing of the internal pressure changes and the way fluids tend to shift towards the head in space, or how the heart beat changes.
Or how small pieces of feces tend to get lost and float around. Or how the immune system experiences changes.
I would not want to undergo space surgery personally.
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The “Nazi Alliance”? Maybe I’ve got you pegged wrong, maybe you find your inspiration from a tube of model airplane glue? 🙂
I knew it! Macron is the woman in the relationship…:) But the real policy is very simple: keep everything the same and march eastward. That has been the policy of the Euro elite for hundreds of years. They don’t have much imagination and are scared of their people. Then they get beat by Russia, quickly put in place a few social policies, wait a generation or two….and start all over again.
Meloni seems more normal but she is also a total fake – trained opposition. She talks a lot like all Italians, waves her arms, then plays dead. She is not that different from Duce but with better facial control. If she sends Italians to fight Russia she may end up like Clara Petacci…
Don’t play stupid, Germans and Ukrainians (Galicians) were the core of the Nazi alliance. So the offspring of the two is quite symbolically interesting…:) I think the Freedland woman in Canada is the same.
I don’t think that I’ve seen this film,but will be on the lookout for it as it looks interesting. I’ve always enjoyed Magritte’s “floating” masterpieces:
Actually, Hitler was taking his orders from Stepan Bandera in this alliance. 🙂
Speaking of floating things, the new Fantastic Four has a Silver Suffragette.
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Again, I really hate SciShow because it is so woke (tattooed presenter, WTF?!), but this is a good example of common medical wisdom for years being what I would call blatantly and obviously wrong about something. (I.e. that urine is sterile.)
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The fascist parents the CIA imported tended not to tell the children anything about realpolitik and substituted American propaganda. I knew a couple of the children when they were grown and they were nothing like Freeland appears. When I found out about the American Bandera memorial and such I was unpleasantly surprised. I thought all of that was behind and it was a Brand New Day for them.
When you start over, do that. Start over. Forget old enemies. You will acquire new enemies plenty soon enough.
Gypsies like Gandhi drink the stuff as a tonic. We should ask Singh about piss drinking.
Short faced bear. One of the less friendly extinct megafauna.
How can you tell? The CGI on Silver Bint (*) is horrific. Could the grotesque, gargoyle like characterization be a Trans allegory?
Cast interviews reveal that both Invisible Woman and Human Torch have been updated to appeal to the nonexistent “modern audience”.
Casting Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards was a terrible decision.
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As we see with Minecraft, a poor film can rake in box office.
If Disney can shut cast up, Fantastic 4 might break even with $550-600MM at the box office. Large number of tickets pre-sell before wide spread, honest reviews warn people off.
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Another potential momentum killer is the launch of Ironheart 3 or 4 weeks before FF4
Why is Disney releasing this anywhere near another project. Yes. It is on Disney+ streaming, so few will directly see it. However, memes spread faster than fire. This is a risk they do not need.
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(*) I only heard this term a few years ago, but it is really useful.
Family myths require having an enemy, myths holds communities together. Galician-Ukies had some leeway because of the Bolshie issue so they more openly embraced their fascist past. Germans hid it but it’s coming out with vengeance – the Merz guy is as much as saying Germany will refight WW2, this time by genuflecting to the Jews who may or may not care, and with UK-France on his side. These people are literally crazy.
Myths are dreams that went public…dreams are messy and incoherent with a few kernels of truth. At the end nobody understands what it was all about. The shrinking group of core-Ukies is searching for perfect justice. Great, except it leads to a lot of dead people all around and still no “justice”. See Shakespeare for how it works…
It is also a thing in Nigeria. Of course, those are very diverse places – and I am not sure which tribes in Nigeria, but I do wonder in passing whether Badenoch and Sunak both are connected to the practice by a few short generations.
And supposedly Buddhists in Myanmar and Zoroastrians. (Was it the original Iranians who brought the practice to India?)
Anyway, it probably makes more sense than ingesting mercury.
Please explain what happened between dating her and now dating/rooming 90 year old man.
Lord Robert Skidelsky
Re: Below Linked Video
Mild mannered Glenn Diesen is the Clark Kent of Russia pundits. With room for some respectful disagreement, Lord Robert Skidelsky provides an excellent must watch summation of what’s wrong with the Collective West.
The exact opposite of BBC puff pieces with the likes of pro-Kiev regime lobbyist William Taylor. On the Beeb, Taylor suggests that Steve Witkoff has been duped by the Russian government. Ironic given how the BBC’s coverage subconsciously dupes people who uncritically rely on it.
Contrary to Skidelsky, Russia hasn’t bombed Ukraine to smithereens. Compare to the WW II Allied bombing of Germany and the US bombing of Japan. Thereafter, the US was able to maintain a relatively good standing in the two former Axis countries. Look at the situation in Georgia today, relative to Russia and the EU.
In its early stage, Russia’s limited Special Military Operation got the Kiev regime to negotiate a settlement. Anglo-American neocons and neolibs worked against that goal. Since then, the Kiev regime and its key backers haven’t fared better than Russia. Russia can make a strong case that it gave peace a chance much unlike how some others are more trigger happy when they choose armed conflict.
For you fitness buffs:
https://www.gq.com/story/strength-training-vs-cardio?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us
That’s cruel. Upon second thought, it was mentioned that said roomie had a pressing health issue. I’ve limits on jesting on such matter.
Do people really care what actors say? I could see it influencing some people, but it is hard for me to believe that it could ever explain a bomb.
A sex swap on something that looks like a still of a morph effect from the ’80s is pretty weird. Hard to explain. Was it women in Disney or the director wanting to put his own stamp on it? Will Mr. Hack still watch it?
yes, that was pretty unexpected. I wonder if that would be the biggest gross for a live-action video game movie.
But I would suppose it was some sort of nostalgia trip for people for people who spent many youthful hours on the game. Maybe, they were looking for the social experience but the audience being fans, but if it really was a bad movie, it seems kind of sad. It is like it was a success because the culural void today is so great. It is hard to imagine such a thing 20 years ago.
Guilty people often like to falsely spread their guilt around.
Slovakia was a Nazi ally who sent 10,000s of troops in support of their ally and who actually paid the Nazis to kill their Jews (no one else did that IIRC). They did this out of opportunism and their descendants brag about how clever it was – Slovaks did not suffer like the Poles, who unlike them, dared resist the Nazis.
Fico and you (who seem to be his follower?) are the spiritual descendant of those pro-Nazi Slovaks of World War II. Now Ukrainians are playing the role of Poles, opportunistic Slovaks (and Hungarians, another Nazi ally turned Putin ally) are trying to gain advantage through links with Putin, hoping that similarly-minded allies in the West come to power. Orban hopes that he can grab a piece of Ukraine if he is lucky, same as what Hungarians did during World War II. This is another example of history rhyming.
Rachel Zegler shows that actors can damage projects. Stating that the film will not follow the source material will reach those who care about the original work. She was so vocal about deliberately damaging the brand, even international audiences stayed away from Snow White.
Will this one magazine article by the cast of Fantastic 4 by itself tank the film? Probably not. However, if they keep generating negative publicity IMHO the box office damage will be considerable.
It is hard to scientifically prove either way. Intuitively, antagonizing those who care about the source material is a bad move. The rise of social media increases the spread and magnifies the impact when actors make mistakes.
I think it is the top box office for live-action game adaptation. However, there are few movies to compare against in such a tightly defined space. Inflation adjusted, Angelina Jolie’s Tomb Raider is probably the closest competitor.
Mario Brothers was less expensive and more successful. 3d animation is a good option for making characters with the correct look.
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According to one of these comments, some of Karmelo Anthony’s donors were in Liberia
https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1912266299276665314
Rubio says the US is about ready to throw in the towel on Ukraine peace negotiations.
Is Trump’s fabled “twenty four hours” almost up?
Will this threat to end negotiations move the Noviops to do something wacky on the Russian negotiating side (Dmitriev)? Alternatively, will sensible people inside Ukraine be forced into making a strong move against the current regime?
Will the US immediately expand military support for Ukraine (in hour 25), joining in a coalition with the other death wish countries?
Now that Trump has gotten this Ukraine peace idea out of his system, will Tory Nuland resurface?
Bandera was a monster and his movement’s crimes against civilians are inexcusable, but the overall cause (liberation of Ukrainians from 1930s Polish nationalists and from Bolshevik killers) was nothing to be ashamed of, unlike in the case of most other fascist movements. Bandera’s fascism had a strong anti-colonial aspect to it, and his people fought both Bolsheviks and Nazis (the latter reluctantly and after a failed alliance, but still). Irish nationalists also flirted with a German alliance during World War II, if the Nazis had successfully landed on the islands there would have been a high chance of an Irish ally.
So it would be logical for Banderists to hide the specific crimes, while supporting the general movement.
Croats’ fascist wartime government was even worse than Bandera’s movement, but Croatian-Americans seem to be as nationalistic as Ukrainian-Americans.
They (not only Banderists, but also non-Banderist Ukrainians such as my grandparents) came not as economic migrants or people fleeing a discredited past but as political exiles with nothing to be ashamed of about that. Given the national nature of the struggle, to preserve the culture and language. I recall reading that intermarriage rates of Ukrainians in the West are far lower than amongst most European immigrant groups. Freeland and Mr. Hack’s -ex are exceptions though even products of mixed marriages tend to be able to speak Ukrainian. My kids do. Ukrainian-Americans are not rootless, but have roots in both countries and have been pro-American. There are a number of Ukrainian-American military veterans, for example, and until Trump Ukrainian Americans tended to strongly vote Republican.
There was a kid from my high school whose parents were Germans from Danzig and Konigsberg. Mom came over as a little girl but father, a lot older, was barely old enough to have served in some teenage military formation at the very end of the war. Nasty people. The parents had a 1930s copy of Mein Kampf in Gothic script on display in their house. They used to yell at him silly things like watching Monty Python (they called it Jewish subversion), they praised people like Farrakhan and Jesse Jackson and were generally opposed to American Whites (Blacks and Arabs, like Germans, were viewed by these people as fellow victims of the Jews and Americans). They hated America, but came here because they hated West Germany even more. It was an interesting snapshot into the authentic mentality of 1930s Germans, preserved in North America like old Gaelic ballads have survived in Appalachia. I haven’t kept in touch with this kid much longer than after high school, I suspect that if alive his parents would be fans of Putin and would have supported his war in Ukraine.
Please provide some citations on this.
Remember, the Fake Stream Media routinely creates propaganda by taking a single clip out of context and misportraying it as the opposite of what actually meant.
Putin recently spent 5 HOURS with Witkoff in Saint Petersburg (1).
IMHO there are no signs that a sudden change is coming in Trump’s stance.
The budget provides $0.00 in direct assistance to Kiev aggression. And, Trump is trying to find a graceful way to disengage from this mess without alienating European governments.
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/15/envoy-steve-witkoff-gives-topline-review-following-5-hour-meeting-with-vladimir-putin/
Looks like the Belgians invented drive-by shooting in 1890’s already!
Japan is producing miscegenation propaganda now.
https://twitter.com/politicalawake/status/1912865347352273292
At the presser, he was wearing glasses and a bow tie.
https://twitter.com/Yung_Spengler/status/1913195100101882229
@Mikel (from previous Open Thread):
The tragedy of losing a loved one is the same, whether the killer intended to kill them or not. Having a loved one burn to death in an apartment fire caused by a person carelessly forgetting about a lit cigarette would be as horrific as one killed by a deliberate arson, but we are discussing the killer and not the victim, so intent matters.
How do you define “political motive?”
Is killing someone while conducting self-defense from a a violent invading and rebel force that has already killed and promises to continue killing a purely “political” motive? I think that sort of thing transcends politics.
Before it became clear that the rebel leadership was in the building at the time of the attack, it certainly looked like a war crime. Bombing a random civilian building, no military target, would qualify.
But the rebel leadership turned that building into a legitimate military target by placing themselves there. If anyone committed a war crime it was them for doing so.
Nonsense. Bombing and strafing a building with the military leadership in it had a high (though obviously not 100% ) chance of killing them. The rebel leaders were lucky to have escaped.
Just as I said, the French were also involved.
This is what I wrote: “Do you think that the 30,000 French civilians who were killed during the Allied liberation of northern France were murdered by the Americans, Brits and Free French forces”
[estimates of civilian deaths go higher, up to almost 60,000]
While most of the bombing was done by the Americans and Brits, the Free French also bombed targets in France and killed French civilians, though fewer than did the Americans and Brits.
I did not “make stuff up.”
It’s an interesting story, with close parallels to the Donbas war. Including with attempts to minimize civilian casualties by Poroshenko, as by the Free French bombers. Poroshenko’s forces killed only 2,600 civilians out of a population of 6 million during almost 2 years of warfare against Russian invaders and their local rebel proxies.
I’m not sure how many of the 30,000-60,000 French civilians who died during the liberation of northern France were killed specifically by French bombers. I’d guess at least a few hundred, perhaps a thousand or two. The French are not eager to list this number.
Note that the article writes about causing fewer civilian casualties, or minimizing the number. So French did kill French while liberating France. It is a sad inevitability in war. Blame rests on those who started it – Germany in France, Russia in Donbas.
https://francehistory.wordpress.com/2024/05/16/the-free-french-air-force-and-the-liberation-of-france-in-1944/
Bomber crews faced even greater moral dilemmas, knowing that they were not only bombing their own country but potentially killing innocent French civilians.
Some justified their actions by arguing that if they did not do it, other allied airmen would and would be less motivated than the British and Americans to be careful. Others opted to accept greater risks to themselves by conducting raids at lower altitudes so that they would be more accurate and cause fewer civilian casualties.
Such was the case in the raid on the power stations at Chevilly-Larue near Paris on 3 October 1943 led by French Lt-Col de Rancourt. He instructed that the first 4 aircraft would release their bombs at very low altitude, while the other 8 would drop theirs from an altitude of no more than 1500 feet (450m). He emphasised the importance of minimising French casualties, ordering French crews that they must not hit civilian homes on any account.
Some simply accepted that they needed to bomb targets in France as part of the combat against the Germans for the liberation. Others, such as Jean Maridor, who flew with 612 squadron from RAF Perranporth in attacks on Normandy in December 1941, expressed their concerns about the potential dangers. He thought about families getting ready for Christmas.
Come again, I’m not following? How exactly am I and or my “ex” and Freeland exceptions? Exceptions to what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_and_the_Beast
There’s only 12 stories and they all have been told a million different ways.
They are exceptions in that intermarriage with non-Ukrainians wasn’t so common among Ukrainians, at least of that generation.
My 93 year old roommate and best friend recently passed away, that’s what happened. There, do you feel more enlightened now?
Terrible trailer. And why does the invisible woman look like Kamala? Triggering.
The power going out all over the Eastern Seaboard of course made me think of New York City 1977.

The Dwarkesh Gwern interview is worthwhile in transcript form. The podcast interview with avatar and impersonation reader being ridiculous is just who they are. They still are in the drunk afterglow of the arrival of ChatGPT3 which I guess could be the biggest all time nerdgasm so far.
https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/gwern-branwen
OK. Maybe in another 50 years they can figure out that a neuron, one neuron, has a big whopping supercomputer on the inside of it.
Zvi has a post just on the Sam Altman interview. Sam now has a legal gay marriage and a legal baby, genetics of / for baby not provided in his post. Sam claims his child will never be as smart as an AI. No update on when he gets his seven trillion dollars.
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/openai-13-altman-at-ted-and-openai
Or more accurately stated:
Trump and Putin see a future where geopolitical and economic alignment can be very beneficial for both Russia and the United States; they just need to find a way to promote the idea that Trump’s Russian appeasement policies are designed to counter Zelensky’s supposed aggressive start of these hostilities, something that over 70% of Americans find to be misleading and part of Trump’s inherent derangement syndrome.
Do they still have steroid growth hormone guys on their cover? I haven’t seen one in awhile. How about the gila monster venom?
Everyone notices that Mikel never gives practical and realistic alternatives.
What can a defender do when faced with the fact an existential threat is using human shields?
The issue is even more clear with genocidal Hamas. Islam is to blame for the death of their coreligionists expended as human shields.
Palestinian Jews must fight to protect their children from murderers. What other practical & realistic option is there?
Excessive philosophical purity is often a vice, not a virtue. Mikel is not the only commenter here with this serious character flaw.
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Aarne–Thompson–Uther Index tale type561M: miscegenation propaganda to promote replacement migration.
There is a lot of foreign money flowing into Japanese productions now, but it is interesting to see that NHK made this.
@Pericles
Would be funny if instead of going in a woke direction they went in the opposite direction and had Sue Storm use her invisibility and force field when she was walking past a certain demographic on the street.
You do realize that Ramirez backs Ukraine’s defensive military actions 100% and that he has no compunctions to ridicule Trump?
Perhaps, you should find somebody else to help you promote your partisan messages?
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9weLK2AJ9JEt2Tt8f/politics-is-the-mind-killer
Since 2007 Eliezer Yudkowsky has decided we should bomb big AI data centers for humanitarian reasons.
Sorry for your loss.
No familiar with that venue. The posted article makes sense, regarding all around fitness meshing strength training with cardio activity.
Trump said it’s Biden’s war. As long as Trump militarily supports the Kiev regime, it’s his war as well as a co-belligerent. He’s not a mediator, but a party to the losing side.
One disagreement with Alexander Mercouris in the below video. Trump wasn’t mistaken to have attempted negotiations to end the NATO proxy war against Russia. His methodology has been off. This doesn’t mean Trump’s attempt will ultimately fail.
One faultline is his overly stated optimism for ending the conflict soon. There’re significant differences among the adversaries which make it unreasonable for a quick end. Trump gives his detractors something to tap dance on.
Another faultline was appointing Keith Kellogg to initially lead the negotiating process. Upon being made a chief negotiator, Kellogg exhibited an extreme ignorance of realities pertaining to Russia’s economy and military capability – something that was evident with him beforehand.
Shortly thereafter, Kellogg was seemingly replaced by Trump’s friend Steve Witkoff as evidenced by Witkoff’s presence at the first high level Trump administration-Russian government meeting in Saudi Arabia, with Kellogg sidelined.
Kellogg hasn’t completely left the scene, saying that a French-British presence on Kiev regime-controlled soil should be no big deal and accepted by Russia. Kellogg’s penchant for being off the mark is clearcut. As the side winning and likely to win the NATO proxy war against it, Russia has made clear its opposition to any troops from NATO countries on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR.
On the flip side, Witkoff is scorned by the Kiev regime and its main backers in the EU and UK, as well as their fellow travelers in the US. He has underscored unpleasant realities for that grouping.
Recalling a prior era, Mercouris notes (as I have) the Nixon administration accepting reality by reaching an understanding with North Vietnam at the protestation of South Vietnam.
Within the present Trump administration, Trump, Vance and Gabbard, along with Witkoff exhibit some independence from the misguided neocon-neolib anti-Russian slant.
On the surface, it’s good for Trump to have different views within his administration. It’s up to him to make the right call.
Brent Seales believes they will image 100 scrolls this year (think this corresponds to the number of “complete” or nonfragmentary scrolls.). Estimates they will eventually be able to read 90% of it.
Seales suggests the possibility of recovering scrolls in the Black Sea. Frankly, I suspect this is crazy talk. Anaerobic does not mean zero bacteria and salt water probably is a sort of solvent.
There are shades of grey. When the European Empire was running Team Biden, they were extracting ~$10 Billion per month with minimal restrictions on Führer Zelensky’s aggression. Under Trump, the direct funding is headed to zero and there are many more limitations.
Putin has to see that as huge improvement. He also is sufficiently politically savvy to see that Trump’s 2nd term has exceedingly slim margins in the House and Senate. Also, Putin is aware that Trump has many political balls in the air, and Kiev is only one of them.
Getting nominations through the Senate is not easy. While having less influence this time around, they still had sufficient leverage to push in some of their choices. Kellogg was fairly obviously a Senate not Trump selection. Mike Waltz is another odd choice that makes more sense as a quid pro quo with the Senate.
A sense of urgency can propel negotiations forward. Without such motivation, they can drag on interminably. Everyone knew that “Day 1” was an aspirational, not practical goal.
The real hope for accelerated timing was Kiev aggression running out of external support. Germany, France, and the UK all have economic issues at home. They really cannot afford to fund Führer Zelensky. Yet, as we have seen in the German debt deal, they are going to try anyway.
This leaves Trump more positioned as ‘broker’ rather than ‘participant’. If Europe keeps their puppet in the field, America cannot force Merz, Macron, and Starmer to stop. Putin sees this limitation, and realizes publicly pushing Trump would be counter productive.
It looks like QCIC’s source had the story 180° backwards. Here is a better read on Rubio’s stance: (1)
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/18/secretary-of-state-marco-rubio-says-u-s-willing-to-walk-away-from-ukraine-conflict-decision-in-days-not-weeks/
You can play with your mythical rhymes, it all amounts to nonsense talk by childish people. Galician Ukies were the most loyal Nazi allies – they helped to run the camps and killed a lot of Poles, Jews, Russians,… on their own. A sick group to celebrate – as they are celebrated in Ukraine today, Bandera streets, stadiums, statues…
I am not sure our WW2 behavior was all that clever, but it was the only thing we could do – with some modifications on the margins. Normal people are not suicidal and opt to live. Running at machine-guns is simply stupid. Today very few Euros will volunteer if the Brussels madmen send them to fight Russia. I doubt more than 10% of eligible Poles would do it. Are all of us now clever?
Ukies seem an exception, a throwback to dumber times. But we have been over it and you can’t ever agree for it would devastate you. So go on about their “heroism”, it’s harmless.
My comment was based on a ten minute segment of Rubio answering reporter questions on the tarmac and did not include any MSM editorializing as far as I could tell; I think it was largely free of deceptive editing. My impression is this clip was from yesterday. He mentioned Witkoff’s meeting.
My impression is that Rubio was telling both sides that if they want the US to help broker a deal they need to make positive moves immediately as in a couple of days and this needs to be followed by substantive progress within weeks, though he realizes a full negotiation will take much longer.
His words seemed to be intended to pressure both Ukraine and Russia, mostly Russia. More importantly it looks like Team Trump is beginning to socialize the idea that the USA is at risk of walking away from the negotiation immediately to worry about other statecraft challenges. He mentioned something to the effect that the combat in Ukraine is a stalemate that neither side can win.
One of Helmer’s recent pieces has an interesting quote from Lavrov. He stated there are now many Russians who do want the sanctions to end too soon. Intriguingly, the Western sanctions against Russia are doing for the Russians what Team Trump is trying to do for the USA with tariffs and increased defense budgets. Another piece of the larger puzzle in my opinion is the general vacuum created by the collapse of the Soviet Union was at least partially responsible for the unnaturally rapid and extended growth in the Chinese economy.
The US are not acting as an honest broker but as a vulture preying on a victim. The US is not even abiding by basic international and moral law.
We don’t need your fake “brokering” which is essentially siding with Russia at this point – we already know what Russia wants, we don’t need you to help them get it, better that you step out entirely then.
But then you move on all the way, be honest. Step away from the “minerals deal” (robbing of a victim), and quit meddling in European affairs. Don’t count on our future support.
Don’t pretend it was just an issue of intelligence or historical contingency – there was plenty of ideological support for the Nazis.
How come you don’t have the same standards for the Balts then? The Balts were in an ven shittier position than the Slovaks. You have double standards – one set for your own (if you’re in fact Slovak and not Jewish), and another for other occupied nations. I know why, it’s just that this debases your statements.
They’re fighting not just for their land and freedom but for their lives – they would be killed and tortured under Russian occupation. Fighting for survival is not dumb – you’re not smarter than evolution.
I think if the Trump Peace effort is sidelined that is de facto support for the NATO and Western European military buildup against Ukraine. It will require public firing of some US government warhawks to convince me otherwise. I doubt Russia is surprised, though. It does put some pressure on their timeline which has been “as long as it takes” for two years. Of course Trump stirring the pot of world trade could make some countries behave differently with respect to the Ukraine conflict.
The text you quoted is similar to what I was trying to convey. I forgot about Rubio’s comment, “This is not our war” since it is the BIG LIE. The USA led the expansion of NATO, led the dismantling of the nuclear arms control framework, put US missile bases in Eastern Europe and led the meddling in Ukraine and other FSU countries. Sure Britain and France helped, but they are just cheerleaders in many respects. I think the risk of this mess escalating to nuclear weapons remains high until someone important in our government acknowledges the leading US role in driving this process and creating this bloody crisis. This might be with some “coded” tacit acknowledgement which loses the least amount of face, but breaks the ice to allow this mess to be repaired. Maybe Team Trump will be strong enough to do that in year three if we make it that far.
Alternatively, the main reason I can see the RusFed possibly capitulating sooner is the longer the fighting continues the more powerful the military political block becomes. They may already be too strong for Putin to control as he apparently was able to do in the past.
Did he say this to Putin or Lavrov?
What he needs to understand is that this is a real European war where one of the parties is a revanchist, imperialist minded Russia which is being backed by China. This is a real war – not some deal making session, the kind they have in New York real estate circles.
You don’t threaten Russia, you act. But there seems to be no will to even hurt your besties even slightly. Buddy buddy.
It will fail.
About the same as in UK, France, Belgium or Czechia. It was the zeitgeist of that era. In Slovakia it had a clerical tinge, similar to Spain or Bavaria. But it was a minority view.
The Baltic states were very different: they murdered their minorities and formed SS units on their own. We didn’t. That’s a huge difference. We were told to send Jews to the Polish labor camps and Germany charged us for the train tickets – Germans are weird that way, petty accounting and lots of paperwork. We have also throughly removed the WW2 fascist sympathizers and nobody would dream of naming streets after them or having statues. While Latvians have an annual Latvian Waffen SS march. It’s very different. (I am a Slovak Lutheran, and none of my people were involved at all – the clericals disliked us, they were Papist and we are traditionally pro-Czech.)
Obviously not. You can pretend and make up scary stories but it’s on its face a lie. Nothing would happen to any Ukies if they had stayed normal and friendly with all neighbors. But you will have to repeat it not to feel horribly stupid about the unnecessary war that the Ukies (with NATO) provoked and are now losing.
In my opinion Rubio’s words are supportive of your general position, though everything is cryptic. If there is no public backlash against Rubio from Trump himself this will be a green light for Western Europe to continue accelerating their support for the Ukraine project. It is all very Machiavellian and hard to predict. However, this could lead to a reverse Article 5 trap where the Western Euros get in over their heads and expect the US to bail them out and Trump says, “Hell no, this is not our war.” By “reverse…trap” I mean that Article 5 is often viewed as a tripwire to escalate a conflict up to World War 3, whereas the reverse situation is that a conflict leads to NATO being disbanded.
This would require a deeper look to check if it’s true. Each of these countries had a different situation, the UK was never occupied by Germany and the UK has a different geopolitical position. Normally, I would sympathize with Slovakia, but not in this case when you attack Balts and Ukrainians (which most Slovaks never used to do before).
Of course it was the zeitgeist, nobody knew what would happen. But then this particular aspect would also apply to the Baltic States and Ukraine. Then you can’t throw the “Nazi” around as liberally as your side does.
I would have to check this to get more detail to see what was really going on – I do not trust your word for it, sorry.
That’s just not true – first, the Baltic States were in a much more difficult position than Slovakia, because they had already been occupied and ravaged before by Stalin. Their militaries and a large portion of the elite had already been destroyed. A repeat of that was being threatened by the returning Soviet invasion. It is dishonest to ignore that very important factor.
Second, if not for the German occupation, which became very strict and oppressive, very quickly, within months essentially, there would be no formation of SS units. It was not “on their own”, we had our commanders but they were under the Germans. It was not like in Norway with the Nasjonal Samling and even there, they had strict German oversight. Later in the war, when things became harder for Germany, mobilization of Latvian youths was carried out by FORCE, avoiding being mobilized could result in execution.
And with all that Latvia still had forces that fought against both the German and Soviet occupations – those were Latvian nationalists. Lithuania didn’t even have the SS units because they pushed back (and many of them were executed for this).
Btw, are you aware how many pro-Nazi officers the Russians had? And the overall number of Russians who volunteered with the Nazi SS – wasn’t it something like a million, no?
Anyway, do not veer away from the original topic – as a Slovak you’re not in a good position to call others “Nazis” or “Nazi collaborators” or what not.
Obviously yes. A big yes. Just look at what is going on in the occupied territories – full of torture chambers and killings. Or living in constant fear. More importantly, as a Slovak – e.g., someone who has never dealt with the Russians and their Asian friends and servants directly – you don’t understand that laying under him will not necessarily save you from death. We, Balts, learned that lesson in 1940-1949. We know, you don’t. You get killed, exiled, oppressed even if you do not resist – or rather it is guaranteed in that case. You fail to understand how different things are for Russia’s neighbors vs other countries further away such as Slovakia, Czech, Romania, Germany, etc. If they had gotten closer to you or if they had more need for you, you would’ve suffered the same fate.
Thankfully, the Ukrainians have more strength to withstand Putin’s aggression.
You have a strange definition of “normal and friendly”. Why didn’t the Czechs stay “normal and friendly” with the Germans? Why didn’t the Russians stay “normal and friendly” with the Poles in the 17th century?
People will never willingly give up their identity. Russia wants sheeple, and Russia fears any neighbor who has agency and is conscious of his identity (Russia calls this “Nazis”). Only they themselves are allowed to have agency as they are the “great” ones. While simultaneously they don’t even have a strong ethnic identity left. Maybe that’s why they cling so hard to their inflated “greatness” (the same might be true of “Americans”).
You’re simply a Russian shill, so I don’t expect you to understand or recognize this.
NATO should have been disbanded 30 years ago. It’s every country in Europe and mostly a country not even in Europe all allied against one country in Europe. It is absolute stupidity.
I’m sure you can get a 40000 word explanation out of Chat GPT that would make perfect sense to Kamala Harris but most of us know about garbage in and out.
Europe doesn’t need a “green light” from anybody to continue helping Ukraine.
I don’t even blame the US for failing – this is a very difficult struggle, that started probably even before Ivan Grozny. And Trump’s expectations were delusional from the get-go.
The US had a chance to make a difference in 2023 when Zaluzhny was “standing 80 kms from Melitopol” and asking for the weapons – the US chose not to help then and a breakthrough wasn’t made, even though Ukraine was doing quite well back then (without even having half of the weapons they have now – timing is everything in war, the US stalled Ukraine’s advance for “balancing” reasons). Right after the successful Kharkiv operation, when Russians were expelled, the US stopped assistance for 8 months. So this is a choice that the US made. If salvaging a genocidal Russia is more of a priority for the US than the security of Europeans, then this is where our roads part.
The coalition of the willing is not NATO. That of course brings up the question of what does the US bring to the table for the European security?
All that is asked of the US is to not interfere on the Russian side. The US has already come very close to that. Trump and Putin are allies. The US should rethink this position.
I think if the Trump Peace effort is sidelined by Western European intransigence that is de facto rejection of Kiev aggression and the European Empire’s military buildup against Ukraine.
There is no indication that Trump’s administration has any plans to support Globalist elite escalation. Absolutely nada no facto.
It is the BIG TRUTH. This is EUROPE’S Folly, not America’s war!
• European Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel tanked the Minsk Agreements
• European Scholz and European BoJo undermined the Istanbul deal
Nothing is 100%. Under Obama, more than a decade ago, creatures like Victoria Nuland were making things worse. However, the *recent* key decisions that created and escalated the fighting were driven by Europeans (not Americans).
America, under Trump, will regain national honour and prestige by walking away from Europe’s Folly.
The deep state turned Team Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal into a fiasco that left American troops dead. Trump’s disengagement from Ukraine must head off resistance designed to discredit good policy. The plan will be gradual to avoid risks from establishment malice.
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Mr Martyanov and Mr Cosman having fun with the Trumphouse tech guy Kratsios’ claim that the US has technology that can manipulate time and space:
Not as loyal as Hungarians and Slovaks. Galicians allied with Germans because the Soviets has murdered 10,000s of them. Slovaks and Hungarians had no such excuse. It was just pure opportunism. As it is now, allying with Putin.
How can ne tell who is most like 1930s Germany? Just look to see with whom Hungary and Slovakia ally.
Galicians were not involved in the Nazi concentration camps. The Ukrainians working in those camps were primarily Soviet Ukrainian POWs. Red Army men. The kind of Ukrainians you prefer. Like this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk
Demjanjuk was born in Dubovi Makharyntsi (formerly Kiev Governorate, presently Koziatyn district, Vinnytsia Oblast), a farming village in the western part of Soviet Ukraine
Exactly. You became a Nazi ally and exterminator of Jews because for your people it was “normal” in comparison to refusing Nazi demands, resisting the Nazis, and being killed by them, as “abonormal” Poles did.
Kratsios’ Kay Fabe. Have you seen that Eric Weinstein thing where he believes what he was told that the CIA has its own laws of Physics?
RFKJr might want to go after the stupidity crisis after he does obesity.
There’s a guy on the internet that has been on like 50 podcasts who has a perpetual motion machine and he has a video that proves unidentified flying plasma objects sucked MH317 into other dimensions. I heard later he has the U.S. government did it with secret weapons to teach the chinks a lesson but I didn’t hear that episode in his research development.
Are you really that historically unaware? How about Vichy and the very collaborative French? How about Degrelle and his rule in Belgium? You are playing dumb.
I don’t trust yours, you are quite willing to deny the obvious that can easily be checked. E,g. Latvian fascists murdered minorities and leftists on their own – even before Germans got settled in. So did the Ukrainians in Lviv-Galicia. You obfuscate by omitting core historical events – Latvia was a fascist dictatorship from 1934-40 (Ulmanis)…
Who would that be? Latvia had a Waffen SS division fighting against Russia and Latvians in the RTed Army (Latvians were quite the commies in their day). Are you saying there was a “third force”? Where? Who were they?
How do you know? I haven’t seen a single report – there is minor local abuse as there is in Ukraine, but not what you describe. BBC and DW tried to write articles about the “abuse” and it was some guys who took government computers put in jail (temporarily), few people unable to travel, small stuff. Where do you come up with “killing”?
You exaggerate ad absurdum so one can’t take you seriously. And you are one-sided, Ukies have done more than their share of abuse and killing.
The war is about the NATO expansion to Ukraine (stopped now) and the normal European-like rights for the huge Russian minority in Ukraine. You have nothing to say about those two real causes so you b…shit with “torture” and “identity”, stuff that is so subjective and hear-say that it means nothing. Address the stupid NATO plan to expand to Ukraine and the banning of the Russian language – are you afraid to do that?
Kratsios studied humanities, Martyanov and others like Berletic always looks at the educational background of leaders or journalists when judging how seriously they should be taken. It sounds like common sense to me, the argument is that a STEM background seems to provide better preparation for high office or for doing analysis. Think of an airhead politician like Analena Bearbock as another example, she studied political science.
I like YouTube these days for many reasons, one of them is to try and spot trends and patterns in the suggested videos on the feed. Lots of YouTubers seem to make content that repeat themes that gather higher viewer numbers, the weird science stuff too, like bad takes on history such as Nazi weapons that never existed and AI generated “historical” photographs.
Like where I live it’s becoming a trend to have multiracial YTers go to Orania to make a video about how shocked they are at a town in Africa full of white people. There’s a new video by a different channel on the theme every now and then, usually with a thumbnail of them making an emotional soy face. Also look at how many YT channels only do videos on how pathetic or evil China is, year after year for some of them.
I don’t know what you think you are discussing but I am discussing the carnage of civilians in armed conflicts so no, from the relevant perspective (that of the victims) the intent of their butchers matters very little. Why should I care more about the mind streams of the animals who launched 2 missiles to downtown Sumy at midday than about the children and innocent people that they killed? I really couldn’t care less what goes on in their minds and how they justify what they did.
Occupy your own mind analyzing the intent of that scum if you want but don’t involve me in that analysis.
This is something I have always found tragically funny. When you guys start justifying the killing of innocent civilians all you do invariably is use political terms. Sovereignty, nation, national interest, national security, right to defend national borders, legitimate actions, government’s duties,… abstract concepts removed several steps from the natural action of one human defending himself or his progeny from an attack. But for some reason very often you are not even aware of the political nature of your justifications. It’s what kingdoms, empires and nation-states have been doing throughout history so you lose perspective of the nature of your arguments and treat them as immutable laws of nature. Well no, it’s been several centuries since the start of the scientific revolution and nobody has discovered anywhere any natural law establishing that the cosmos would collapse if people who fail to solve their differences peacefully stopped killing other people who are not part of that dispute.
This is the Netanyahu fig-leaf: the Hamas militants don’t come out in the open to fight us wearing uniforms so that we can dispatch them all in one day from the air, therefore we are entitled to level their cities and kill women, children and elderly to our heart’s content.
Bullcr*p. Throwing a small unguided bomb to a huge concrete building and strafing it had near 0% chances of killing anyone in particular hiding inside it but was guaranteed to cause a carnage among the many civilians outside, which is what happened. The very outcome of the action, with zero fatalities inside the building, proves how I am right and you are dead wrong, no more debate needed. And that is assuming that the pilot even knew who was inside the Lugansk Administration building at the time, which is unknown because the Ukrainian government always denied being responsible for the attack.
Sounds like the opposite of Putin’s, Poroshenko’s and Netanyahu’s philosophy. Even in the last months of the Donbas war, with Zelensky commanding the operations, the OSCE reports showed that the Ukrainian army continued to kill more civilians than the rebels, even though they were both entrenched in inhabited areas and used similar counter-battery and mining tactics. As we’ve seen later, none of the parties conducts itself in a particularly humanitarian way at all but it’s just logical that people are much less prone to kill their own kin than outsiders, as your own passage shows. Btw, returning to the purely political aspects, how much can one talk of a “defensive” operation when one sends an army largely comprised of outsiders, sometimes from many hundreds of km away, to quell a rebellion of local militias and their allied co-ethnics from across the border that also kills thousands of innocent natives? It reeks of the Operación Especial Norte launched by the Spaniards against us. Thousands of armed outsiders sent to pacify a rebellious region. But their own Constitutional Tribunal ended up declaring it unlawful.
It’s even more peculiar today – Fico apparently owns shares in those Slovak defense companies which send their equipment to Ukraine (probably both sold and as donations). But he still wants to attend the May 9 event in Moscow. Wouldn’t it be funny if a drone flew into the Red Square that had been provided by Slovakia? That would really be some grotesque spectacle with Fico standing there, greeting his own drone.
I wonder if when Slovaks sided with the Nazis, if they were still purchasing oil or metals from Stalin…
Yes, the Premier loves surprises.
You are either with us or you are with the terrorists.

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Each country has slightly different circumstances. The ones you mention are Westerners – they are culturally closer to Germany. Of course, it doesn’t justify collaboration with the occupying force from the point of view of the constitutions of those states but it is different than what Slovakia did – you actually helped Germans invade Poland…
We were part of Ostland and we had a Gauleiter, we were not allowed to have our own government, you were literally a client state of the Third Reich with your own authoritarian leader. You were in a more favorable position because you mattered less – not on the border with Russia, so no need to control you more, and also Germans needed you to “divide and rule” vis a vis the Czechs.
As I said, it was closer to the Norwegian Nasjonal Samling with Quisling. Of course, the circumstances were complex and somewhat tragic (more so for the Czechs and especially the Poles) but you are in no position to accuse others (even if such accusations mattered in 2025), especially those who had been ravaged by Stalin and those who were in more precarious circumstances due to their sheer geography. You were sheltered.
Unfortunately, the head of Latvian fascists was put in the Flossenbürg concentration camp and was never in power.
No, you do – you ignore very important events that happened just a couple of years earlier.
Hahahaha, Ulmanis imprisoned the head of our fascists (a very small group) and drove him into exile. He was far from a fascist, not even Italian style. You believe every authoritarian is a fascist? Or is it just the antifa in you talking…
Yes, there was a third force, it was a group of nationalists. There were even some nationalists who fought the Germans at the very end, during the period of the Kurland pocket. You should know that the official position of the state is that there were two occupations and both were illegal and harmful.
There is research by international human rights orgs and a lot of evidence by Ukrainians themselves. There is a network of torture facilities in the East, at least it existed in the first two years of the war. It is run by the Russian secret services. The Russians were cleaning out anyone who sympathized with Ukraine very carefully. I wish they hadn’t but this matters to them a lot – they do not have a real nationality of their own, so they are jealous that others have a strong identity that is not subordinate to theirs.
I’m not striving to “be taken seriously” especially by Sovoks and pro-putinists on some obscure website. What matters is that all of this evidence is gathered and taken seriously at international criminal courts, purely based on facts and forensic evidence, not what you or I say.
The problem is that Russians anywhere within the so called former Soviet Union are not a normal or what is termed “a traditional minority” in the context of the EU law. And even the EU law can be interpreted in different ways. Why should European law apply to Russians if they did not create this law, did not create the type of rule of law characteristic only to the European civilization and that they themselves despise this law and despise the EU by calling them “fags”? More over – when they themselves broke all these international laws by invading Ukraine and killing so many Ukrainians? Do you ever care about the minority rights in the RusFedia? What about the rights of the Finnic and Turkic peoples?
Besides – Ukraine is not in the EU, and most importantly – international law no longer holds after what has transpired after 2022. It is clearly visible in the actions of the current US administration.
Japan wants to quadrupole its cultural exports by 2033. Seems overly ambitious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=mL9xeD-Roy6PIZ-N&v=t0r_ofpMtiw&feature=youtu.be
I remember the day the UAF bombed the Lugansk city administration building. I watched the video. I remember the women dying in the parking lot and the bystanders crying for help and cursing the murderers. I also remember how the Ukrainian nationalists joked about the “air conditioner explosion”, just like they joked about the “grilled potato bugs” after the Odessa incident. They truly dehumanized their Russian-speaking co-citizens (I won’t call them co-ethnics) they literally saw them as less than human, enjoying their suffering and deaths.
Nowadays, Alex Parker is posting similarly disgusting comments about the dying Ukrainians on Telegram. Alex described his own story once; he is a Russian born and raised in Kiev, when Maidan happened he was in his late twenties (IIRC). He watched as Ukrainian nationalists joyfully sang about hanging his kin, then he witnessed the coup supported by the « peaceful NATO » and the « democratic West ». He heard of the Odessa incident and saw the insane gloating about the death of the pro-Russian militants. Finally, he watched the Lugansk bombing videos, read the Ukrainian nationalists comments, quit his job, left everything he had in Kiev and went to Donbas to join the pro-Russian militias to kill Ukrainians. And killing some he did until he got wounded, was healed, but got disbanded by his commanding officers (he was with Bednov IIRC). Then he witnessed the Wagnerites eliminate the local charismatic war leaders that did not agree with Surkov’s strategy, including Bednov. Alex moved to Moscow and witnessed the Noviop Moskvabad lifestyle, so far removed from the Russian Realm that he was fighting for in Donbas. Finally he emigrated and became a bloodthirsty ultranationalist blogger who posts the darkest memes supporting the murder of Ukrainians (including POWs and civilians) and deriding the Noviop RusFed.
Alex became a genocidal sociopath. He no longer feels the pain and suffering of the peaceful, oftentimes misguided, civilians who die in this war. He enjoys their suffering, like the ultranationalist Ukrainian mob enjoyed the suffering of the Odessa, Kharkov and Donbas “Moskali” in the spring of 2014. He celebrates the death of the Ukrainian children, just like the Maidanite enjoyed the death of Donbas children. He dreams of a “purification of the Russian Realm” through violence, and the complete destruction of Ukraine, just like the Maidanite crowd dreamed of the purification of Ukraine and the complete destruction of the “Moscovites”.
Alex is a pur, undiluted and unfiltered dialectical byproduct of the Maidan. Without Maidan there would be no Alex Parker. Without the Maidan there would have been no Odessa incident and no insurrection in Donbas. There would have been no conflict in its present form, no war. Those who danced and sang on Maidan to the tune of “hang the Moskal from the branch”, those who posted the memes about the “grilled larvae of the potato beetles” when they shelled Donetsk, those who supported the “promise them whatever today, we will hung them later” attitude of the new government in Kiev and its oligarchic backers, those people have created Alex Parker. Alex Parker is their ugly image in the mirror.
And yet, some people still don’t understand that hatred only produces more hatred. That violence is easily started but is difficult to stop. That once the demons of the Civil War have been awakened and released, it is hard to put them under control and put them back to sleep. That Civil War often leads to foreign intervention. These people still justify the Maidan, they glorify it and minimize the suffering of the Donbas people. These people are blind to the fact that “what goes around comes around “ and that oftentimes those “who’ve sown the wind have harvested the storm”, that the side of the conflict that they support created the problem in the first place. Sad…
It seems likely that countries that had been part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until 1918 would be more in the sphere of German cultural influence than France. I think before the Allied victory in 1945 and the Cold War division, the cultural and political configuration of Europe into spheres of influence and similarity will have been different.
A new Simplicius article that covers a few of the usual points. Also the Trump administration threatening to walk away from peace negotiations. The question is, are they abandoning Ukraine, or distancing themselves for political reasons whilst continuing support for Ukraine under the table through their European proxy?
https://simplicius76.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web
I also remember what you describe about 2014, I saw it through alternative media like LiveLeak a while later, during my first experiences outside MSM narrative. Before that I held pretty standard Western liberal beliefs, like thinking that it was clever stuff to talk about Putler and drunken Russian commies.
As my views changed I formed an emotional rapport with the Russian Federation as the good guys versus the evil Western hegemon. Things like the Arab Spring being exposed as a NATO proxy war and the emergence of ISIS and the Islamic State reinforced this idea of Russia trying to stop the carnage within modest means.
I’m still stuck with this emotional attachment, but trying to temper it and also trying not to have a stereotypical view of Ukrainians. I realize that I am part of what you would call commentators with no dog in this fight. I had no idea back then that the Ukraine war would become so destructive and I try to moderate the frivolousness of my earlier views. I did not even believe that there would be a war considering Russia’s energy advantage over Europe through Nordstream 2.
Speculation about this war and geopolitics in general is necessary I feel as a way to deal with uncertainty about the future. Also understand that I live in a violent place where war is not uncommon, and peace is often more dangerous in many circumstances than war because of crime and racial tensions. I mean no disrespect.
I salute those who go thru hell with a level headed morality.
Many, if not most and perhaps all conflicts aren’t simple matters of 100% good versus 100% evil. Before, during and after WW II, the USSR, UK and US had clear ethical issues.
Nonetheless, there’s the matter of determining who is the more just.
Trump has a weak hand with other priorities. He wants to maintain the best possible appearance in conjunction with his core views.
We all need to have some “embodiment of good” that is fighting the “just war” against some “embodiment of evil”. Life is more complicated, it’s all shades of gray. I have written many times that in this war in Ukraine, there are no “good guys” and there are no “bad guys” either. Both sides are responsible for the ongoing destruction, both sides better stop and think about how it happened. Putting all the blame on the khokhols or katsaps/moskals is naive. They’re in it together, один (не братский) народ. The real question is how did it come to this and how to avoid it elsewhere. Because what happened there could also happen elsewhere.
There are no such people. Hell is a place where one gets lost for a while. But it’s possible to go back to a better place by renouncing hatred and ignorance. It’s a difficult thing to do.
Will Poland get hate speech laws?
https://twitter.com/PoleConnection/status/1913472716482429053
I’ll try and remember your message the next time I speak to two of my cousins. One who is forced to hide in his vegetable cellar whenever the Russian bombs get close, and the other one who just last week had to witness 11 neighbor’s houses totally cratered less than 1 kilometer from where he lives.
Why don’t you continue your very moralistic story in the context of Russia’s recent denial of halting the current hostilities for one month with the goals of creating a more permanent peace? Clearly, both sides aren’t equally responsible for this missed opportunity.
Trump made his intent to separate from Kiev aggression transparent via his budget allocating ZERO for direct assistance. He has also gone after back door routes like USAID. Who could misunderstand such clear signals?
China is Trump’s #1 strategic priority. Pushing Russia towards China is an obvious policy error. Sadly, Europe is not America’s proxy. If they were, he would simply order them to stop.
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Kiev aggression is driven by external support. What is the world wide total over 2 years? IIRC over $400 billion. Trump taking a huge chunk out of that cash flow should have caused Kiev to take negotiations seriously. Knowing that they would have much less in the future is a strong motivation to cut the best deal now. So what is stumbling block?
Führer Zelensky is Europe’s proxy.
This should surprise no one. The best off ramps that could have prevented or ended the armed conflict were blocked by Europeans — Merkel, BoJo, and Scholz. Germany is committing national suicide by escalating. To gain the ability to issue more debt, they amended their constitution to include carbon neutrality by 2040.
The Ukrainian people need to get rid of Europe’s proxy, Führer Zelensky, and install negotiation capable leadership. Unfortunately, he just cancelled elections for another 3 months. There is no mechanism to change the status quo.
It looks looks Germany, France, and the UK will cause negotiations to fail. I would suggest caution with the term ‘abandon’ as it carries connotations that may not apply. Instead I suggest this will lead to American ‘disengagement’.
There will not be a visible cut and run scenario. The deep state would try to create another Afghanistan style fiasco. Instead U.S. intelligence staff and their gear will be taken out in secure batches over time.
Also, there may be some full price, cash upfront sales. With F-16’s in service, America cannot cut off necessary spares. What would that do to the internationalized F-35 program?
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Conservative Treehouse gives a good summary (1), which I shared above at #60.
You may also enjoy their write up of the Paris meeting: (2)
The site is not mine. I link to it to offer it some free promotion. It is usually solid.
In this case, they may be a bit too optimistic. Merz and Starmer are recently elected and seem fairly committed to dumping money into Kiev aggression. Germany’s AfD and UK Reform will continue to gain strength. However, early federal elections that would empower anti-war parties seem unlikely.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/18/secretary-of-state-marco-rubio-says-u-s-willing-to-walk-away-from-ukraine-conflict-decision-in-days-not-weeks/
(2) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/18/rubio-witkoff-and-kellogg-meet-with-french-president-macron-ukraine-and-uk-delegation-to-discuss-outline-of-ceasefire/
This war started in 2013.
You remember the silly funny little rhymes about москаляку на гиляку and кто не скачет тот москаль ?
Which rapidly became одна нация, одна мова, одна краина – це Украина ?
Then included the UPA slogan Украина понад усе?
Where was the first place they started these ?
Was it Drogobych in Western Ukraine ?
What was the place that the armed ultranationalist militias invaded and overtook the Regional City Administrations first, was it in Galicia ?
Как аукнется – так и откликнется…
When the Southeast raised in protest against this ultranationalist agenda, and used the same tactics that Ukrainian nationalists used in the West of the country, the illegitimate post-Maidan government attempted to stomp down on the Russian-speaking opposition. It lead to insurrection, then Civil War and finally proxy intervention by RF and NATO. Only eight years later, after several attempts to fix the situation through negotiations, did it all end up with an outright Russian invasion.
This war didn’t start in 2022 Mr Hack.
And yes again, both sides are wrong and they both should do everything for this insanity to stop.
This war better stop this year because twelve years of conflict is long enough.
Повоевали идиоты и хватит, поубивали, попогибали, по домам пора. До дому – до хаты, детей рожать да растить. Строить а не разрушать…
Why should the Ukrainian people “get rid” of Zelensky? They voted him in, and his current popularity is high. Besides, there’s a clause within the Ukrainian constitution that allows that elections can be postponed during wartime. To follow your advice, is to follow the advice of Putler’s quisling, Donald Trump. If he doesn’t watch it, it’ll be Trump that will soon be evicted from office. I wonder what his approval rates are currently within the US?
But only one side has recently walked away from the negotiating table. With your supposed stance of “peace at all costs” I’d think that you’d want to condemn this recent development very vociferously. Yet, all we get from you is a luke warm whimper of disapproval. 🙁
Russian morality:
Songs and poems are an excuse to kill, and if someone kills in response to songs and poems the two sides are equally guilty. Both sides are the same, the singer and the killer.
A convenient morality for those whose side are the murderers.
The first people who killed in 2013-2014 were the Russians. In Donetsk, in Luhansk, and in Odessa.
But those pro-Russian murderers, who started the killing, weren’t the ones who started it, according to Russian logic. People who sang songs were the ones who started it.
A murderous people collectively, it is best to keep them on another side of a border, but they insist on a union.
So if the war didn’t start with the Russian invasion in 2022, it started when Russians started killing Ukrainians in 2014.
The pre-Maidan government lost its legitimacy in 2010 when it illegally and undemocratically undid the results of the parliamentary election (which the Orange coalition had won) and gave itself a fake parliamentary majority (which no no had voted for), which then passed a lot of fake laws including new election laws that insured that the “Blue” side would control parliament even if they lost the popular vote.
The government that came into power after Maidan consisted of the parties who won the 2012 popular vote and would have controlled the parliament had the fake parliament not changed the election laws.
RF didn’t walk away from that the negotiations’ table. And Ukraine didn’t agree to negotiate on US terms.
Also, there were negotiations in Minsk and Istanbul, where did these negotiations lead to?
Nowhere…
As long as the hatred and will to harm are there, no reasonable agreement is possible.
Again:
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.01.budd.html
First one needs to understand that a mistake was made, second one needs to understand that one was misled, third that misleading was possible because of mind’s delusion, fourth one needs to rectify one’s mind, fifth one needs to rectify one’s actions. Only then peace and harmony come back to those who embraced hatred and violence. But oftentimes they die, suffering from the negative consequences of their mindset before the healing process is completed. One should always hurry to heal one’s hatred towards others. Death would not wait for one to do that…
But you didn’t remember that the Luhansk bombing followed the killing of Ukrainian border guards by Russian forces commanded by people who were in the building in Luhansk that was bombed.
You didn’t remember that the first person killed in Odesa was a pro-Ukrainian protester, murdered by pro-Russians for the purpose of dispersing the Ukrainians and taking over the city as they had previously done in Donetsk (where they also murdered a Ukrainian protester and then succeeded in conquering the streets). In Odessa, the balance of forces was quite different than in Donetsk, and the Russians lost. And the Ukrainians cheered that they had won in Odessa following the murder of Ukrainians, after having lost in Donetsk.
You didn’t remember that the Ukrainian gloating followed Russian gloating that they would soon take all of “New Russia.”
How convenient.
You present yourself as objective, and I think you are honest and sincerely believe that, but in reality you are blinded too.
People do not become “genocidal sociopaths” in their late 20s. This Alex Parker was always such, he only made excuses as such creatures do. The Russian cause in Ukraine naturally attracts psychopaths, sex criminals, and other unsavory people.
You speak of karma, and believe that suffering indicates who has been most guilty of something. Perhaps you should reflect why the biggest sufferers of this war are the people of Donbas, who have been killed by the Russian state far more than by the Ukrainian one, and those who have suffered least are the ones from Galicia.
Why do you think that is?
AP be very careful with your Russophobia. You have Russian family connections. Your children are partly Russian. The more you feed your Russophobia and the more you risk experiencing very negative consequences. But of course you can always keep with your casuistry and sophisms. It suits you well, it makes you feel a first tier Ukrainian. It feeds your ego…
Russians are neither worse nor better than Ukrainians, but Russians did not start the hatred. Your Western Ukrainian kin did. They poured this hatred among the Ukrainian people and poisoned their interactions leading in 2013 to a violent and disgusting conflict ending in an outright invasion in 2022. Your Galician folks are the main culprits for what is happening now. You should tone down your rhetoric and reflect on that before it becomes problematic.
There’s this Russian joke that goes like that:
« Идёт хохол с ружьем по хутору. Соседи спрашивают – ты куда? Он в ответ – москалей стрелять. Они говорят – а если они в ответ тебя пристрелят ? Он – а меня за что ?»
I hope you understand, but if you don’t there’s nothing I can do about it. Life will eventually make you realize what’s wrong with your support for that war.
Because they betrayed their motherland. But they didn’t do it in 2014. They did it in 1991. They should never have supported the separation of Ukraine from Russia. It was the right thing to do for the Galician Uniates, not the Novorossian Orthodox. So Galicians did the right thing in 1991, but the Southeastern Ukrainian russophone population made a monumental mistake. Galicia should have become independent, like the Baltic states are. Novorossia and Crimea should have been integrated with RF in an Eastern Slavic confederation along with Belarus. It would have been much better for everyone concerned.
But Ukraine did give its endorsement of a 30 day truce, to be used to start real negotiations. And Russia has officially bowed its way out:
https://www.daynews.tv/2025/03/13/russia-rejects-30-day-ceasefire-as-us-pushes-for-peace/
AP’s characterization of you as being “blinded” makes sense. No matter what, you still seem to see things through the prism of just another Russian chauvinist. Why don’t you take the time to try and counter AP’s list of Russian original malfeasances within Ukraine, instead of hiding behind pretty sounding sophisms?
When you render judgments on Putin, Poroshenko, Netanyahu you are discussing not only the victims. So when you discuss such people, intent matters.
They are not removed at all in the case of a country that is literally being invaded. Violating borders means killing people on other side of the border that you invaded. National security means stopping those killers.
Except Poroshenko did not level cities from the air but attacked one specific building with weapons that did not even destroy the entire building, thereby minimizing civilian casualties.
There is plenty of footage of cities leveled by the Russians or the Israelies. Show me the entire cities or entire housing blocks leveled by Poroshenko in 2014-2015.
A bomb and machine gun fire had a good chance of killing people who were not hiding but meeting inside.
That’s like someone falsely claiming that flipping a coin always results in heads (in reality the probability is 50/50 heads or tails) is proven right if as a result of the coin flip it happens to be heads.
Are you seriously going to claim that it was a complete coincidence that the Ukrainians happened to send a plane to bomb one specific building at one specific time right when the rebel military leadership was meeting there?
Obviously the Ukrainians were tipped off.
The three do not have a unified philosophy.
Putin, unlike Netanyahu and Poroshenko, attacked first. He initiated the aggression and as a result he (like Hamas in Israel) is ultimately responsible for the carnage that followed. Netanyahu and Poroshenko responded to being attacked and their actions served to protect their people from invaders who were killing them. And the invaders were operating out of populated areas, so some civilian deaths were inevitable.
Poroshenko, unlike Putin and Netanyahu, did not engage in massive indiscriminate bombing of entire neighborhoods, killing 10,000s of people. It’s quite telling that the example you keep bringing up involves Ukraine sending a plane to hit one specific building at a specific time when it held rebel leaders, resulting in the unwanted deaths of 8 civilians. They didn’t even try to destroy the entire building with a massive bomb or artillery hit. Compare to Gaza, or Sumy, or Mariupol, etc. etc. Entire buildings and blocks leveled.
So to summarize:
Putin both initiates war and death, and applies death on a large scale with many civilian casualties when doing so. He is like Hamas or other aggressive terrorists, or 1930s warmongering dictators.
Netanhayu does not initiate war and death, but when it comes to him he responds by applying death on a mass brutal scale with many civilian casualties. He is like World War II-era Americans or Brits.
Poroshenko did not initiate war and death, and when it was brought to him he responded in a measured way, with relatively few casualties. A modern European or American (sometimes).
And Mikel who doesn’t consider intentionality thinks that all three are the same.
In 2021, something like 7 civilians were killed by the Ukrainian side and 2 by the Russian side. Those numbers are too low to draw definitive conclusions.
Another dozen or so were killed by landmines.
The frontline went by two large cities under Russian control (Donetsk and Horlivka), and none under Ukrainian control. The largest Ukrainian-controlled city, Mariupol, was about 30 km from the front line. So that would easily explain the discrepancy in killings.
But they did, and why do you think that they voted for independence from Russia? Maybe the Galicians held a gun to their heads?
The fighting in Ukraine is the current hot spot in the West’s long-standing project to destroy Russia. It is not clear the Ukraine mess can be resolved unless the West is willing to walk away from this project in a broader sense. Talk is cheap so the US needs to clearly demonstrate this intention with real action. In other words, Russia is not simply going to forget about the US dismantling the nuclear arms control framework, US emplacing missiles in Romania and Poland and greatly expanding NATO. They are also not going to forget about Western wars specifically waged or stirred up to weaken Russia, including the Balkans, Georgia, Syria, Nagorno-Karabakh and also any Western role in the DICh [arguably Iraq 1 should be on the list]. The West has a lot of damage to either repair or at least disavow before Russia can trust them. All of this talk about Ukrainian negotiations seems to ignore the fact that the West is completely untrustworthy from a Russian perspective. Not slightly untrustworthy, but completely.
Team Trump has no way to back up any major promises which are made to achieve any concessions from Russia. It is obvious to everyone there is a lot of political turmoil in the USA. The previous Presidential election was probably stolen and given to a zombie puppet. A very visible and nearly successful assassination attempt was made on the Presidential candidate and no substantial retribution was applied to the security forces who allowed this to happen. The point is that the US seems to be on the verge of chaos. We are probably not, but it is something that a Russian negotiator must factor into the process.
There are a few moves Trump could make which might be useful, but they are probably political suicide at the moment. Maybe if Trump has a few big wins in the next year he can circle back to Ukraine negotiations. Unfortunately, it is not clear how the MIC/DeepState people behind this entire anti-Russia project will react to Trump trying to undermine their life’s ambition to crush Russia.
Three substantial steps Trump may consider to create some good faith would be to restrict Ukraine’s access to US satellite data, unilaterally recognize Crimea as a permanent part of Russia and agree in a general sense to a new nuclear arms control framework. The last one is very difficult at the moment.
My wife is half-Polish and spars with her Russian relatives also (as do many other Russians living in the USA).
They are 100% on the side of Ukraine, as are many ethnic Russians in Ukraine such as the spouse of one of my cousins in Ukraine. Alex Parker is just a psychopath and always was. Those psychopaths and moral degenerates are the types who support Russia.
There is a lot good about Russia and Russians, but its political culture is beastly and murderous. Even a brilliant and well-meaning person such as you demonstrates this with your “two sides are equally guilty” approach when the same side started the killing in 2014 and invaded in 2022.
It’s why there needs to be a strong armed border between Russians and other Slavs.
It is not “casuistry and sophisms” to point out that Russians started the killings in Odesa, Luhansk and Donetsk, while Ukrainians stated the dancing and poetry.
And to marvel at how even a very intelligent and thoughtful Russian seriously believes that this killing is somehow equal to songs and poetry about Moskals.
Dostoyevsky mentioned a law of blood. He wrote that the one who hates is the one who was bled, not the one who bled the other. Russians (including under their Georgian master) started mass killing of Ukrainians. In Western Ukraine, 10,000s were murdered by them in 1939-1941. Far fewer than the number starved to death and murdered in Soviet Ukraine in the 1930s, but still this was unprecedented.
If that were true, the Galicians would have seen karmic justice from 1991. Instead they created the most pleasant place in Ukraine, and even now suffer the least. They will probably end this war being better off than before it began.
About Karma and Donbas being punished while Galicia being okay:
I actually agree with most of this, but you are wrong about so-called Novorossiya.
Odessans are okay, it is Donbas specifically that has suffered enormously. So if karma is the guide, it was only the Donbassers who should have left Ukraine and stayed with Russia in 1991.
So the divide is not linguistic but ethnic. Odessans are mostly ethnic Ukrainian, Donbassers from the Republics have a slight Russian majority.
Instead they stayed in Ukraine and did nasty things for 25 years such as preventing Ukraine from joining its polish brothers in the West, imposing would-be dictators like Yanukovich, and generally corrupting the entire country.
Of course, another interpretation could be that Donbassers are being karmically punished precisely because they prevented Ukraine from joining EU and NATO in the 1990s or early 2000s when it was possible. Had they not done so, Ukraine would have been safely in NATO, and their people would not have been burned alive by Russian bombs or raped by Chechen marauders. They would have been happy. But instead they voted for Yanukovych and prevented ties with EU and NATO.
These are reasonable steps.
There are potentially vulnerable intelligence staff and equipment on the ground in Ukraine. Permanent removal would likely be in small groups over time to prevent the possibility of a false flag or other potential issues.
Bilateral agreements had to end as China would not come to the table while they could free ride on them. Chances of a 3-way deal are fairly poor, but preliminary discussions including the CCP could take place.
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Other things that could help:
There are some assets that could be released and sanctions eased. However, these are small on the U.S. side. Most of the restrictions are European.
Improving Russia’s access to U.S. dollar institutions would help in terms of financial transactions. It may be possible to undercut some EU limitations.
PEACE 😇
At the time, most people in the Soviet Union were very naive. Because they were isolated from the wider world and lived in an artificially constructed ideological system (a bit like what the West would become if the Wokism prevails for a few generations). In a sense, we were ignorant fools and didn’t know what we were doing. Ignorance is at the root of all evil because it prevents us from being able to realize the full extent of consequences of our actions.
Southeastern Ukraine was very developed on industrial scale and when compared to other regions of USSR, had a somewhat better standard of living. During the Brezhnev era, the Dnepropetrovsk Nomenklatura clan accrued a lot of power on the federal level. Ukrainians (including the Russian speaking ones) started looking down at Russians on social and economic levels. They truly believed that as soon as they would become independent, they would have a much better standard of living. Будем как Франция…
The Donbas miners were the « elite of the working class» according to the official narrative. They received salaries that were way higher than that of the average Russian worker on the other side of the border. They had a lot of privilege, such as the free Azov / Black Sea resort vacations, early retirement etc. For reasons unknown, they thought they would be even better off under capitalism. To some extent, same attitude was also found among the other Ukrainian manufacturing sector workers and the peasantry. They thought that economically and socially Ukraine would be better off without the Union. Ukraine was supposedly « feeding the lazy drunk Russian muzhiks » (that were the exact words of a Russian speaking Ukrainian that I knew well).
That was the Масло зъили москали, сало зъили москали attitude that many shared at the time. That’s why they voted for the independence and betrayed their brothers and their family links. In a sense they did it for the proverbial « 30 silver shekels ». And the consequences are dire. They’re paying the full price now.
I don’t disagree, but I am being careful before being optimistic. One of the possibilities I consider is the idea of continuity of agenda as suggested by Brian Berletic. It holds that that USAID’s function has become part of US statecraft, the same things will continue being done. DOGE is just a way of making a process that spans previous US governments more efficient.
You really do have this need to be on the « right side of history » and to naively believe that you are a « better person » and a better Slav / Ukrainian than the « beastly Russians ». Alright, if you need it, have it. But remember, hatred is a disease and as with any disease, there will be negative consequences. 🙂
People have the same problem with the various leaders. They’re either saints, or fiends in human form. If the official story takes one version, revisionists rocket to the opposite extreme and pat themselves on the back for their cleverness.
It gets tedious. Hitler wasn’t unalloyed evil — but that doesn’t mean Blessed Hitler of Linz is any more accurate. Ditto — albeit in the opposite direction — for Roosevelt and Churchill. There was a lot to be said for both — perhaps particularly for Roosevelt. That they weren’t all goodness and light and wisdom doesn’t demonstrate that they were darkness incarnate.
In general, we as humans all have subjective preferences that are not based on objective reality. Sometimes it leads to conflicts…
But can happen.
Kiev regime didn’t honor the ceasefire against attacking energy infrastructure. The Black Sea ceasefire was thwarted by the EU/UK not okaying clearance for Russian agriculture and fertilizer payments and insurance for transport vessels involved in that process. There’s also the matter of policing clandestine Back Sea shipping of arms to the Kiev regime.
Russia has again proposed an Easter truce. As for an unconditional across the board ceasefire, when in the history of armed conflict has the winning side agreed to such? That move serves to benefit the losing side only.
Plenty of stories like that beforehand of Kiev regime shellings. Ive heard them from people who identify themselves as Ukrainians . Yesterday’s hero Nadiya Savchenko acknowledged this. Partly explains her fall from grace.
USAID had two functions as a vicious, anti-democracy institution:
-1- Funnel money to serve the ambitions of IslamoGloboHomo (including elements of the CIA). This was structured to prevent effective oversight allowing anti-American activities to continue, even if elected officials were in opposition.
-2- Provide a direct source of graft for DNC elites and their families. The more money they received via USAID funded NGO’s, the less likely they were to ask questions.
In the short-term, take the wins for what they are. Large numbers of bad programs have been stopped.
While Trump is definitely sincere, he is term limited. If MAGA is not re-elected, or is compromised from the inside, your concern is real.
PEACE 😇
Shades of Franjo Tudjman.
The side that happens to start killing and happens to start invading is the wrong side.
If you can’t recognize that I can’t help you.
And Russia has a pattern of doing that to its western neighbors.
We disagree that the USA had to end nuclear arms control agreements with Russia in order to create new agreements which included China or that this was actually a sincere part of their plan. I consider this perspective unbelievably shallow and an attempt to make excuses for one of the biggest military-diplomatic policy mistakes in history. Maybe this broken framework can eventually be used to foster tri-party treaties. That will be great but was not the reason the West decided to pressure Russia in this way.
There is no way something as bad and as large as USAID just stopped. We can hope it has been hobbled and pruned back. Maybe we will find out.
Palantir has direct links to the White House as do other In-Q-Tel mega projects. You can’t seriously help MAGA goals if you are a rube.
Those are the types of images and details that you suddenly had to get from obscure Russian/Ukrainian channels if you wanted to get unfiltered information and have some clue of what was really going on. It was a watershed moment for me, when I fully realized how biased our MSM is.
Compared to what’s happened later, the Lugansk massacre was almost insignificant but it has plenty of value because it was all captured on video (CCTV and passersby phones) so we know exactly what happened and how the various actors reacted. It showed the full extent of Kiev’s barbarity and mendacity and, as you say, it must have caused lots of hatred among the locals, fueling the spiral that brought us here.
You know the place and circumstances incomparably better than me but, from my vantage point, this all looks like a terribly sad chain of events that didn’t need to happen. Independent Ukraine looked from the very beginning like a patchwork of regions, suddenly forming a unified country but with big ethno-linguistic differences among them and a strong east-west divide. On top of that it never managed to reach any decent level of prosperity and saw itself lagging behind its neighbors amid rampant corruption. People seemed to get tired of this backwardness, that one of the sides blamed on the other ethno-linguistic group (as is usual in nationalist disputes), and the revolution/coup, rebellion and civil war all followed from there.
As for Russia, I think that many decades of communist-materialistic ideology coupled with the anarchic 90s don’t go in vain and the Kremlin rulers, headed by an ex KGB agent, acted exactly as you would expect, in the ruthless, cruel and equally mendacious way that they were brought up in.
But perhaps the most tragic aspect of this war is that it was criminally stoked from outside and I don’t believe it would have reached the horrors we’re seeing if it hadn’t been for the ridiculous policy of the West of blindly siding with one of the tribal sides at every point of the escalation.
Yes. This complaint is all the evidence anybody needs and if they were clever they would not bring it up. These guys are not the Vietnamese that is for sure.
Ukraine set this all in motion by joining the Western pressure campaign against Russia. Many intelligent people knew that this alliance against Russia was extremely dangerous. Others such as yourself thought it was worth the risk. Considering the Cold War which was just ending this was not an innocent or subtle move.
Battle of the Nations
Denmark Norway
Latvia Poland
Holger Rune and Casper Ruud are the two greatest names in tennis. They also are top players! Ostapenko requires muting to watch the video.
Jonathan Mahler Busted
Re: https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2025/04/14/the-new-york-times-presents-russia-for-dummies/
Good job by James Carden with some additional points for Mahler and his like-minded kin to maybe ponder. The following are excerpts from Mahlers’ article, followed by my replies.
Re: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/12/magazine/trump-russia-putin.html
Excerpt –
Zelensky admitted to never intending to honor the Minsk Accords the Kiev regime signed. In the week leading up to the Russian Special Military Operation, Kiev regime forces dramatically increased their shelling on rebel held Donbass territory as confirmed by OSCE observers.
Stoletenberg acknowledged that a warlike situation was already evident on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR for a good few years prior to the SMO, with NATO arming and training Kiev regime forces.
Upon assuming the presidency in 2019, Zelensky drifted away from his preference for ending the Donbass conflict and improving relations with Russia. He won the Ukrainian presidency decisively against Petro Poroshenko, who at the time was supported by the Banderite nationalists.
A full review of the Oval Office meeting shows a disrespectfully combative Zelensky dishing out anti-Russian/anti-Putin propaganda, followed by his interrupting JD Vance’s call for diplomacy. Zelensky got a well deserved and long overdue rebuke.
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Israel and Hungary also voted for that resolution. Most UN states didn’t vote for that pro-Kiev regime/anti-Russian statement. Who on Russian TV referred to TG as a “comrade”? How many times has this been said at that venue? Sleazy nouveau McCarthyism on the part of Mahler. Regarding foreign policy, Gabbard has been among the most, if not the most sane person in Trump’s administration.
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No mention that the Steele Dossier was proven to be anti-Russian crock, along with the disingenuous attempt by the Biden administration to suggest that the Hunter Biden laptop issue was a Kremlin orchestrated disinformation campaign. In more recent times, Keir Starmer’s party blatantly meddled in the last US presidential election against Trump.
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Classic cherry picked anti-Russian bigotry, along the lines of Banderite propaganda, depicting a historically evil Russia. (Refer to Bernadine Bailey’s 1969 published book. Richard Sakwa mentions a certain Eurasia Review article on that work in Sakwa’s Frontline Ukraine book.)
America’s freeing of the slaves occurred around the same time of the serfs being given freedom in Russia. Problems for both still existed. Russian serfdom wasn’t racially based unlike US slavery. During the US Civil War, Russia showed a clear preference for the Union, with France and Britain preferring the Confederacy.
Russia had a revolution in 1905. Had there been no WW I or had it started a few years later (when Russia would’ve been better militarily prepared), the Bolsheviks would likely haven’t usurped power. Instead, a gradually peaceful and more democratic process could’ve prevailed.
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Many Americans have a secondary at best interest of Russia, which results in many of them being subconsciously duped by the mass media they uncritically rely on. Contrary to what Mahler suggests in his piece, there’re left of center Americans who’ve similar takes to the right of center types underscored by The NYT staff writer.
Anglo-American mass media at large has generally shunned informative point-counterpoint exchanges on Russia related matter.
Are you self identifying as a rube?
You cannot help MAGA goals if you preemptively surrender. It is not rational to expect 100% of absolutely everything instantly.
The first battle against USAID has been won. It is shutdown and its staff fired. Next comes the sunlight part of the exercise where we keep obtaining details about what they funded. Ideally we will see claw backs and maybe even some prosecutions.
Winning one battle does not guarantee winning the war. Obviously, USAID was not the only bad actor in the U.S. government. DOGE will keep going to find other pockets of deep state malfeasance to excise.
PEACE 😇
As previously noted, an independent Ukraine within its dubiously drawn Communist boundary could’ve existed if it remained militarily neutral and respected the pro-Russian community.
Not doing so is what led to the armed conflict. NATO rejected Russian overtures for membership, while being top heavy with anti-Russian advocacy.
Reminded of the goon who was gunned down in Odessa. The Kyiv Independent describes him as an “activist” without noting his violent manner. Some comparative media:
https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-activist-demyan-hanul-shot-dead-in-central-odesa/
https://www.rt.com/russia/614211-odessa-murder-demyan-ganul/
New deck of most wanted playing cards for Luigi wannabes.
There really aren’t that many people out there who want to be Luigis. Right?
It’s very tiring to see you repeating Kremlin narratives and talking points time and again.
Putin and Poroshenko could have perfectly decided that killing thousands of innocent people (the very people they claimed to be protecting at that) was not a price worth paying to respond to the provocations they both felt were so intolerable. But they both decided against it and consciously ordered actions that would inevitably result in huge loss of life and human suffering.
Every time you come up with arguments to justify what one of them did you’re just making excuses that the other one could perfectly use, verbatim, to justify his own decisions. So much so that Putin has used exactly every excuse of yours I have highlighted above. That’s what he told Tucker.
For a thorough analysis we should also include in the debate Attila’s, Napoleon’s and Genghis Khan’s intents, among so many other historical figures who engaged in the killings of innocent people. Perhaps the leaders of the Tollense tribes as well. But I don’t know how many times I’ll have to repeat that I’m not interested. Each of them would use different language, adapted to the culture of their times, but it’s all just cheap talk to hide what really lies behind: primitive simian behavior. As you keep admitting yourself, once war breaks out, barbarity ensues and innocent people almost invariably die in large numbers. That’s all there is to it.
You just want this state of affairs to continue. I want for humanity to continue evolving and for perfectly avoidable horrors like Sumy or Lugansk to follow the fate of once undisputed norms like slavery or torture.
This is the kind of silly statements that sap my energy to continue debating any topic with you. Throwing a small, imprecise bomb and strafing a huge concrete building had a “good chance” of killing someone inside it, even though, as expected, it miserably failed to do so. Why? Because AP repeats it enough times in order to fatigue his interlocutors into submission and that’s the whole extent of his argumentation.
I have debated the old topic of means versus ends multiple times since I was a teenager. It was a hotly debated subject, for good reason, where I grew up. And quite frankly, the debates I had at that time were much deeper than this. For starters, many people in Euskadi were fully aware that they were defending armed action for political reasons and didn’t shy away from admitting it. They were influenced by the materialistic philosophy of the Left at the time and argued that violence is the inevitable driving force of social changes. Or that small nations don’t have any other choice but terrorism to free themselves from their oppressors. All tremendously unpersuasive for me but the more intellectual types had read plenty of ideological material and wouldn’t waste their time arguing against the laws of physics and common sense like you are doing here.
RF invaded in 2022, the conflict started in 2013. That’s a 9 years period during which the solution should have been found. That is why I say that both sides are wrong, not because I somehow try to justify the invasion, but because I firmly believe that the conflict itself should have been avoided or at least solved before the invasion.
The conflict occurred because there were deep rooted tensions in the Ukrainian society. These tensions should have been taken into account and managed skillfully during the initial period of Ukrainian nation-building. Viacheslav Chornovol has adequately assessed the situation in 1990 when he wrote about the structure he envisioned for the future Ukrainian state. He wrote that it should be a pluralistic confederation because it was impossible to make Ukraine a unitary state with just one culture, religion and language.
Unfortunately, most Ukrainian nationalists did not understand the value of the approach that Chornovol advocated. They preferred to enforce a unitary cultural and linguistic policy on the very diverse regions of Ukraine. As a consequence, маемо шо маемо.
Ukraine should have been a bridge between EU and RF it should have benefited from its economic links with both sides, it should have used its cultural, linguistic and religious plurality to build an adaptive society. Instead of this, the Ukrainian dimwit politicians opted for an identity mostly based on negating their common past with Russians. Украина – не Россия, кто не скачет то Москаль.
Nothing strong can be built on negations. You need affirmation as well to know what to build. What is the positive goal of Ukrainian statehood? What’s the endpoint, the telos of the Ukrainian nation-building?
Dying under a Russian bombing in Toretsk to take back Crimea and force all Russian-speakers there and elsewhere in Ukrainian territory to finally switch to the мова?
Is it worth the price?
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You are absolutely correct and I just have nothing to add. It is exactly as you described.
Pretty sure we still have plenty of torture. Slavery is only frowned upon. We don’t see it reported but your Trumps and your Putins have diplomatic relations with Big Men who have slavers under their org if you dig deep enough.
You should get a dog. The Pyrenean Mastiff looks like a good specimen shepherd dog.
It looks similar to the Caucasian Ovcharka:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Shepherd_Dog
This one is a star.
https://twitter.com/1Nicdar/status/1912845622698295299
We know God loves us, because he gave us dogs.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://news.sky.com/story/missing-toddler-who-walked-7-miles-alone-through-wilderness-is-led-to-safety-by-dog-13350027
How can you write such a nonsense…without the US help since the 2014 until now (not to mention the EU warmongers help), what the hell could corrupt Ukraine do against Russia? Can you see the Kiev greenman has been daily begging for help allover the places. Ironically, without help the Ukraine would not be in this mess dying for the NATO existence. What was wrong with neutrality and autonomy for Russian speakers?
Russia was stalled by the fake Minsk agreement – NATO slimy morons buying time. Now the problem for the peace agreement is more complicated for Russia. Russia cannot sign agreement with Ukraine alone but there must be an agreement with the sponsors of this bloodbath, namely US (specifically Republican die-hard neocons clan and DNC clan) and the EU political elite (with single digit support).
We tend to be keenly appreciative of the merits of our own point of view. Our ability to appreciate that of our adversaries varies.
There’s a strange Chinese military axiom that one should always leave one’s opponent a route of escape. Strictly from a military point of view, that’s nonsensical; but taken more widely, there is much to be said for the idea that one should leave one’s foe a place he can retreat to while keeping whatever he truly has to have — be it land, resources, security, or even just self-respect.
Much of the reason the Ukraine War is dragging on ultimately comes down to a willful failure to realize that. Similarly, the Israel-Palestine conflict continues because — all their lies notwithstanding — the Jews will not permit the Palestinians a tolerable national existence.
Conversely, the Mexican-American War ended with little more than lingering national resentment on the part of Mexico because — while we stripped Mexico of a great deal of territory — none of it was essential to Mexico’s continued national existence. Similarly, in the successive victories that established a unified Germany, Bismarck strove to limit his demands to those that his opponents could accept without fatal internal consequences. He wasn’t completely successful in the case of France, but that’s because he was overruled by his generals.
Hitler might well have done much better if he had been prepared to accept that there would necessarily have to continue to be national Slavic entities of some kind. Instead, he pursued policies that left his adversaries no choice but continued resistance. It was perhaps the most indefensible part of his programme.
This is fodder for feeble minded by simpleminded. Russia – as an inheritor of the Soviet Union – enabled Ukraine independence not for aspiring to become a member of Russia’s biggest enemy club NATO.
The circling foreign vultures were allowed by Ukraine corrupt ruling elite to direct the Ukraine hostile foreign policies towards Russia for easy bribes. Without the public input they rejected the geopolitical player Russia red line demands of Ukraine neutrality and autonomy for Russian mistreated minority. Those demands were not only rejected but arrogant engagement in escalation against Russia took place (14000 ethnic Russians killed in Donbas). Listening to Garden of Eden snake advise on the NEUTRALITY and AUTONOMY instead of advise from the big brother, is ultimately responsible for the carnage that followed.
The two have a key difference:
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The situation in Ukraine offers vastly more geographic scope. A new border along current lines would give both sides what they need to survive and prosper. The civilian population fled both west and east depending on their affiliation. As people return home they will naturally flow to the areas where they will fit.
The key issue will be verifiable and enforceable limits on Kiev’s offensive potential. They abrogated Minsk and started Round 1. Russia will wisely refuse to accept terms that lead to Round 2. Ukraine will be able to pursue economic integration within Europe. However, NATO and other foreign forces must be permanently excluded to establish a de facto military neutrality.
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What breaks Sun Tzu’s axiom is the fact that Islam provides the camp guards forcing their coreligionists to remain captives. Over half would leave at least temporarily. And, given the difficulties of polling in Iranian Hamas controlled territory, this number is surely very low.
The Muslim occupation of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza is based on the promise of genocide “From the River the Sea”. Muslims have had opportunities to live in peace and have jettisoned them all.
The most serious physical problem is that Iranian Hamas destroyed the fresh water aquifer supplying the Muslim colony in Gaza. They did this long before they launched their October 7 genocide attack.
How will Islam deal with the shortage of fresh water created by Muslims?
I have asked this question many times, and no one will tackle it directly. Stealing water from nuclear armed Palestinian Jews is clearly not going to happen. The Muslim Authority in Judea & Samaria has no excess water for Gaza either. Demographers running math on current trends project a population of 4+ Million by 2050.
Any practical & realistic plan to develop Gaza needs to tackle this issue head on. The strip could prosper with a Muslim population of ~500K. Over 8x that number seems unworkable unless vast amounts of fresh water is piped in or desalination is deployed on a mass scale. If supply cannot be increased that means the demand has to go down via emigration to Muslim countries.
Once the fresh water plan is locked in — Other reconstruction will be shaped by that natural resource limitation.
PEACE 😇
I agree with what you wrote. Even a rat when completely cornered becomes way more aggressive and dangerous.
Re. Hitler, the numbers of Hiwi fighters on the Eastern Front is proof enough many fighters that Eastern Slavs were ready to turn against the Communist regime. Hitler with his racial supremacist views and the German recklessness in punishing the local population for the partisan activities, made the Eastern Slavs stick around the CPSU, fighting the Wehrmacht to the bitter end and prevailing against the Reich.
Same about NATO, if NATO agreed to leave some space around RF not joining until RF itself joins, all the current West-RF conflict would have been prevented and China would be in a less favourable position in its current standoff with US. A standoff that China might well prevail in, upending Western global dominance. If it happens, it’ll be a very painful experience for the Western middle class. I certainly hope that it will not come to that.
First, Ukraine was already fighting the RusFed since 2014, without significant help. Second, I’m not sure you’re catching my drift – we might be talking about two different things here, I didn’t mean the overall assistance, that came not just from the US, but the whole world, because the world was shocked by the invasion.
But what I was referring to was the decisions that were made during the crucial months of 2023 – recently, some details were revealed about this by the New York Times regarding the interactions between the Ukrainian generals and the US counterparts, not saying this is all true – but it sheds some light. Why the long range weapons were not given to Zaluzhny at a crucial moment? The article brings up some reasons – the US were cautious and wanted to be prudent, which is understandable, except you don’t win wars that way – you have to take calculated risk. They did not rely on Zaluzhny who knew the situation on the ground much better than they. Why? Could it be because Ukraine was doing too well? And that if large parts of the Kherson region were taken back, and Crimea exposed again, that could cause major problems for the RusFed? What the American’s motivations were… is all speculative.
A strong theme is currently going through some Ukrainian commentary that the US is salvaging Russia – I’m not sure you would understand, since you seem to have already decided to have a categorical stance here. The situation is not black and white with the US. The US has sided with Russia on many occasions before, against continental Europe. The US needs a bully in Europe to make themselves useful and needed, to have leverage. Just because they are not siding and allying with putinist Russia all the way doesn’t mean they are not assisting her. They are saving her by delaying help.
But they might fail – because they are not as mighty and powerful as they perceive themselves to be. And things are sometimes out of their control.
Will Russia be neutral?
Neutrality only works when one is armed – and Russia really dislikes it when her neighbors are armed. Russia enjoys being full of her own weapons, and very close to the European borders, projecting weapons and power, yet when one of the neighbors has as littles as a couple of thousand troop increase Russia gets uneasy. There is asymmetry here – either we are all armed, or none. This would require that Russia, too, disarm, or move her troops and assets deeper inside, a longer distance from her borders with her Western neighbors. But they have done exactly the opposite in the last 20 or so years (except the part where they had to move troops from the Western districts to go fight in Ukraine).
The Russian speakers should have autonomy when it comes to language, for sure, they are all bilingual anyway, meaning, even if they use Russian mainly, a lot of them know Ukrainian well. They could learn Ukrainian three times a week in school from grade one the way they did with the non-Russian children in the SU. Remember that there are also Ukrainian families who live in those regions. There was also Sloboda Ukraine. It’s a kind of a mixed region, not just “Russian”. In Luhansk region, there were Baltic tribes that lived there in antiquity (but that was probably too long ago to count).
Language is not the issue, but loyalties. When you live inside one country and you root for another country that is hostile, that is a big problem especially when that big country meddles. The Donbas population was used and manipulated.
And autonomy is a very broad concept, it’s the details that matter. And that’s not what Russia with Dugin, Putin, Patrushev and Surkov wanted. Are you aware that Zhirinovsky was agitating for carving out large regions of Ukraine and giving them to Russia already in the early 1990s? The problem is that there were Ukrainians living there who did not want to be part of Russia. And also talking openly about changing another country’s borders by force, from a state official, is really aggressive. There is so much that came from the Russian side that people such as yourself and all these American russophile posters here simply ignore (or are not even aware of). But if you are from the East, you should know about these dynamics.
The problem here is that, in the case with the RusFed, it is not America’s land to dispose of. America does not own the land on Russia’s borders so it is not for America to trade with this land. The reason America was even involved in this, is the unfortunate post 1945 arrangement which now seems to have run its course.
Or alternately, Hitler could’ve incorporated only some “national Slavic entities”, as you call them. It seems like in the original Greater German Reich ideas, only small parts of what is currently the Russian Federation would be included, it seems like up to areas near Moscow but not Moscow itself (so the charges on to Moscow in November 1941 were in fact futile, if they wanted to have the result shown in the maps below, they could’ve stopped in Belarus and built defensive lines there). Would need a closer map to see which Russian cities and regions they wanted to conquer (seems like Ingria and a few others but not even most of Western Russia). They could’ve avoided battles for Moscow and Stalingrad and still had a lot.
There is a fortification line drawn there where they probably had intended to stop and build a strong defensive line. This is all of course theoretical, but since you brought this up…


https://strategic-culture.su/news/2019/12/14/czech-russian-relations-and-the-roa-conflicting-historical-narratives/
It wasn’t just ethnic Russian Communists who were heavy handed in the former Habsburg ruled part of Ukraine.
The collective guilt advocacy on the part of the svidomites is justly opposed. Note how they support a blanket ban on all Russian athletes or only want them to compete as neutrals with a strict oversight of what they’ve done and said.
Meantime, it’s quite okay to support the NATO proxy war and/or glorify Bandera.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/20082024-orwellian-reality-2024-dei-paris-summer-olympics-oped/
Forget about putting a police detail on it – they ought to electrify the statue of Molly Malone.
https://twitter.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1913531346078531805
Perhaps this will help your understanding.
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Yeah. That’s something that could do with more research…the more so because Hitler strictly forbade the use of Hiwis…which led to their employment being somewhat surreptitious. ‘Why can’t three-quarters of the men in this unit even speak German? Oh, they must be very shy. Good workers, though…’
I know every German infantry division that took part in Case Blue seems to have had a ‘tenth battalion’ of some kind of non-German. I’ve also wondered about the almost bizarre fighting power of German divisions in late 1943 that were often only carrying a few thousand soldiers ‘on the books,’ so to speak. Just what proportion of those units consisted of Soviets of one flavor or another?
After all, consider the various possible conditions to choose if you’re in the Ukraine in say, November, 1943. Peasant, liable to be swept up for slave labor in Germany? Partisan? Conscripted into advancing Red Army? Up for the next human wave attack?
A German infantry division would have been one of the safer places to be. Fed, competently led, carefully spent…
Considering camp followers, some of those units must have looked like circuses.
The maps imply a decidedly unhappy fate for Poland.
That’s beside the point. The point was that some Slavic national entities would still be left alone, namely, the land that constitutes the most of today’s Russian Federation. Of course, it was all Soviet Union back then (an artificial entity anyway), but the point is that Hitler didn’t have to over reach – he could’ve taken only most of Eastern Europe and only a little bit of today’s Russia. The large cities behind the new wall, including Moscow, would be isolated and start languishing (they always relied on trade and money from Europe) or turn to Asia.
In that case, of course, there would be no Soviet Union and the United States as superpowers, and there would also be no liberalism (race mixing, Marxism, etc) in Europe.
Outback Boys react to Outdoor Boys.
One of the most bizarre stories I have read, was the story of a young woman, Antonina Makarova, who managed to escape a cauldron where her Red Army unit got wiped out in 1941. Later, she joined the Kaminski brigade (also known as the Russian People’s Liberation Army or the 29. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS „RONA” ) in the Lokot Autonomous Zone and was tasked with machine-gunning the people sentenced to death.
She murdered around 1500 people; mostly partisans and their family members oftentimes gunning up to 30 people at a time and up to 90 people a day. When the Red Army made its comeback, she was in a hospital , being cured of siphilis (she was also into prostitution). She got evacuated to Köningsberg by her German soldier lover, where she ended up in a concentration camp in 1945. When the Red Army took the town she managed to somehow steal ID papers, she then married a Jew taking the name of her husband and becoming Antonina Ginsburg. She had kids (two daughters) with the man, then became a respected worker in her own profession, and paraded as a decorated war veteran (military nurse) only to be arrested decades later (in 1979) and executed.
She was one of the only three women executed in USSR in the post-Stalin period. What is crazy is that she wasn’t anti-Soviet at all and actually went to war as a Communist Youth volunteer. It seems that her early war experience and trauma had completely altered her personality and made her a complete sociopath. Her daughters and her husband didn’t suspect at all that she collaborated with the Wehrmacht. When her husband, who truly loved her, learned the truth about her, he became completely devastated. He died in 1993.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0,_%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0
Another interesting story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hryhoriy_Vasiura
A Jewish-Belarusian woman I know, told me that her grandmother – who survived the war – once said that during the occupation they were afraid of Germans, but were even more terrified of the Ukrainian collaborators.
Courtney Love had a similar career.
Did any of the Outback fellows mention that it must be hard to find good bugs to eat with the ground covered in snow?
A good test to see if someone is an idiot.
According to the UN, there were about 13,300 people killed in the 2014-2022 war in Donbas.
~10,000 were military, ~ 3,000 were civilian, ~300 were on that plane.
An idiot would just see 13,300 and claim Ukraine killed 13,000 people. Some Russians do write that number. Bonus idiot points for rounding up to 14,000.
Derer wrote:
Greeks were polytheists though, with afaik indeterminate views on whether the gods/Gods of barbarians existed,
Greeks and Romans used the same name too refer to Devas.
Babylon even used to translate different dieties.
As far as Mr Hack
You’ll say churka but not nigger.
This is because you’re an 🇺🇸 sex slave
A123 is not irrational, simply duplicitous.
Nascar lovers can’t forget or forgive.
Peace.
Can China prevail against the West, without becoming like the West, with the openness and permeability to the rest of the world that is involved in that?
One of the consequences of this is that the Western middle class is changing to become less ethnically or racially Western in the historic sense, and more like something else already.
All hope lies in adopting British Institutions, only then will progress be made, the Pearl of the Orient.
Monkey see, Monkey do!
Buryat gopnik?
Yeah, it’s been difficult for me. I know that it may sound strange, but my roommate was like a child for me. Although quite intelligent (he spoke five languages quite fluently and had an encyclopedic knowledge of world geography) he often appeared to be quite naive and childlike. He loved others and was the most altruistic person that I ever knew, always ready to help others with his time and finances. He loved Ukraine and our holy Church with all of his heart. I’m up early today, and am getting ready to go to church to have my Easter basket blessed. I wish you, your family and all people of good will a blessed holy Easter Sunday today. Христос Воскрес!
What IELTS score for each test component Listening and Speaking do you think the Buryat gopnik received?
Am not sure they understand snow enough to understand that. Maybe, but maybe not.
It was interesting how they were talking about cold. I thought Abos were good at cold, but maybe not that part of Australia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_Australians
Then again it is true that there are different degrees of cold.
Воістину Воскрес!
Wish you and the others a blessed Easter.
There’s a recent fad for young Chinese nationalists to go to the British Museum in traditional hanfu, as a form of silent protest
https://twitter.com/wake_neko/status/1913902042218926301
…for the items there that were looted by Britain and France during the Second Opium War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Summer_Palace#Destruction
It’s not a good look on both sides– one can argue that those cultural artifacts, had they been not looted, would have been destroyed during the Cultural Revolution.
But those Chinese artifacts, as are many other artifacts from the world, arrived at the British Museum, afterall, by means of stealing and plundering.
That was the preface to your “openness and permeability”. Britain and London still profits from this in terms of tourist revenue and cultural cachet.
Agree, and I hope Mr. Hack had a safe journey to the Navajo mission he was undoubtedly driving to so early in the morning.
profits from this in terms of tourist revenue and cultural cachet.
Louis Collin, 25, and Joe Burdon, 24, were wearing only their underwear, but carrying a digital camera in a bucket, when they were caught by the Imperial Guard on Sunday morning.
According to media reports in Tokyo, they told police that they wanted to photograph the palace itself, the home of Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko.
Happy sunny Easter for all the celebrating;)
Trapped in energy poverty for generations due to the cost of imported fossil fuels, you may have a chance to avoid recession thanks to affordable renewables.
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This plundering would be an example of establishing hegemony by force of arms, like right of conquest.
But, in a democratising, industrialising age a minority maintaining its hegemony by force looks difficult. For it to be feasible, the ruled have to be promised a share in the hegemony. One day there will be an Indian prime minister in London, or a man of African descent as US president, etc.
In the specific case of artefacts from the British Museum, this would be something like that they will be sent back, and/or the curators will end up being of Chinese/Indian/African etc. descent. (Iirc the British Museum is one of the leading British institutions in attempting to decolonise the collections and its staff).
I think in theory any power or possession of an asset deriving from historical right of conquest or use force could be seen as illegitimate, like the production of any asset that occurred when those involved were not equal in power, and giving free, informed consent to participation in the process.
In March 1988, a Filipino treasure hunter named Rogelio Roxas filed a lawsuit in the state of Hawaii against the former president of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos, and his wife Imelda for theft and human rights abuses. Roxas claimed that in 1961 he met the son of a former member of the Japanese army who mapped for him the location of the legendary Yamashita Treasure.
It was named after the Japanese general Tomoyuki Yamashita, dubbed as “The Tiger of Malaya”, who conquered Malaya from the British.
The stolen property reportedly included many different kinds of valuables looted from banks, depositories, other commercial premises, museums, private homes, and religious buildings.
The loot was initially concentrated in Singapore, and later transported to the Philippines. The Japanese hoped to ship the treasure from the Philippines to the Japanese Home Islands after the war ended.
The loot, including more than 6000 tonnes of gold, was organized on a massive scale, by both yakuza gangsters and the highest levels of Japanese society, including Emperor Hirohito. The Japanese government intended that loot from Southeast Asia would finance Japan’s war effort. Hirohito appointed his brother, Prince Yasuhito Chichibu, to head a secret organization named Kin no yuri (金の百合, “Golden Lily”), after a poem that the Emperor Hirohito had written.
Fortunately many of those who knew the locations of the loot were killed during the war, or later tried by the Allies for war crimes and executed or incarcerated.
I finished reading the Dwarkesh Gwern transcript. Informative! Also I read most of the r/slatestarcodex comments on same.
1. My insinuation that Gwern is uglier than Scott Alexander and Eric Weinstein put together was erroneous. The broader point that the avatar and actor’s voice are used because he has no confidence to present his person is accurate. He is deaf and feels he is at a severe disadvantage in the forum of talking.
2. If you thought he was a programmer worker bee and spun off these brilliant blog posts in his free time (I presumed this) you were incorrect. His biography is far more fascinating. He writes full time and the sparkle in his presentations is due to research, draft, re-write, re-write again over and over. If you know anything about the modern business of professional writing, the way to describe this is that it is kind of crazy. His income is like a thousand dollars a month off patreon.
3. Dwarkesh thinks Evolution as Backstop for Reinforcement Learningis peak Gwern. It isn’t bad.
https://gwern.net/backstop
4. If you missed the post where Gwern wrote we have not heard the last of Elizabeth Holmes–she is a six-sigma talent and we can expect to see her doing start-ups again and maybe soon–you might want to check it out. This interview was in 2024 so too early to ask about Ziz but Dwarkesh did not ask about Sam Bankman Fried. This is the biggest stupid gap in the interview.
5. In the r/slatestarcodex comment thread they have Claude clocking Gwern, Zvi, and Robin Hanson from small writing samples. I wonder if the LLM’s have access to our ISP addresses and our corporate trade secreted e-mails? The NSA and CIA and Palantir all know our identities but I wonder how much of our purported private communications are in the training sets and authorship-tagged. Presumably all of it and screw the fragrant illegality.
6. Dwarkesh places much weight on the Gwern (his original as far as I know) proposal that we all should by default want our work being used for LLM training. It is a personal contribution to which
collective future will actualize. It’s almost a duty like voting.
I don’t vote so I consider this pointless and stupid. Then again the bulk of the Dwarkesh project is pointless and stupid so I maybe shouldn’t even mention it. This interview most definitely is not although that one point is.
“A draft of a Trump administration executive order proposes a drastic restructuring of the State Department, including eliminating almost all of its Africa operations and shutting down embassies and consulates across the continent.”
– NYTimes
Is the Nilotic Bantu dichotomy wrong.
Horror as spring break mob desecrates gorgeous beach with drugs, brawls and empty bottles
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14629083/orror-spring-break-mob-desecrates-beach-tybee-island-georgia.html
Negroes makin’ gypsies look good.
This is worth watching for two minutes. Not one second longer. Best time stamp if you know this guest might be 24:26, LLM’s for building Magic the Gathering playing decks.
AP = Asinine Person…in his pea sized brain stipulates the real number of Donbas Russians killed by the UkieNazi regime is 13300. This bandera disciple got furious at my higher number of 14000 killed.
To reduce the UkieNazi crimes against the ethnic Russians in Ukraine, this AP imbecile, suggests that 10000 were military. I guess he means UkieNazi military because Russians military liberation started in 2022.
The only excuse for his stupidity must be his alcoholic upbringing.
This piece by Arvo Pärt, Dopo la vittoria (After the victory (over death)) was taken from an Old Church Slavonic text and translated into Italian:
Who give a fk about your faggy solar panels? This Chinese youtuber says:
What are your thoughts?
He also says blacks are generally stronger than whites, even pure strength competitions like bench and squat. And Slavs generally beat up Anglos in combat sports.
Not so fast, the USA may need a few embassies to facilitate return of the African illegal immigrants back to their native lands.
Other than that, this sounds like a great idea. There is probably nothing in Africa which cannot be acquired with much less hassle in Greenland.
Look at a globe. Africa is freakin’ huge. The unknown earth crust volume in Africa is many Greenlands. What is the hassle in letting the chinks mine it and we buy what we need?
OK I read the purported Gwern’s greatest ever post again and I had forgotten he referenced Cosma Shazili In Soviet Union, Optimization Problem Solves You.
https://crookedtimber.org/2012/05/30/in-soviet-union-optimization-problem-solves-you/
Shouldn’t that be In Soviet Russia Optimization Problem Solves You?
A lot of the distance runners are Kalenjin specifically. South Sudan doesn’t have as high an altitude as Kenya. Wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them had fast twitch variants. Probably helps to dodge spears.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao
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If he does it, I’ll applaud.
African news seems to mainly be concerned about visas.
Santa semana in Spain.

Answering Zelensky
Re: https://www.rt.com/russia/615542-zelensky-dmitriev-ukrainian-separatist/
Excerpt –
On par with calling Zelensky a separ for going against the land of his birth that was affiliated with Russia for a lengthy period, including the Soviet and pre-Soviet eras.
Like Kirill Dmitriev, the aviation pioneer Igor Sikorsky, was born in Kiev when that city was affiliated with Russia. Shame on Dmitriev and Sikorsky for seeing themselves as Russian. Another sinner is Zaporozhye born Russian cosmonaut Alexey Zubritsky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Zubritsky
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=53edcb558038ad52&q=Alexey+Zubritsky&tbm=nws&source=lnms&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpmDtIGL1r84kuKz6yAcD_igefx-eKq1gCPHF3zhthFoneNn6lL83lY3KLybUMxCNDHQus4VIx3LaatjzUq_py4-z0NEea5j6m-ShGqcvkgwY6X8X01GJE9N5yRzmv-xanm5RCM1t-GPR3AHH1wy1ZGzfHblHc2o-lkQ70mavZDv9be7sRk0DNYbCAyIQZhG0VmcEH6g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJ94O7-ueMAxXoElkFHefFBRQQ0pQJegQIIRAB&biw=1024&bih=615&dpr=1
After becoming Ukrainian president, Volodomyr Zelensky went against his prior position when he said that people who like Russia and want to speak Russian should go to Russia.
Therein lies the essence of the NATO proxy war against Russia with the Kiev regime as a pawn. Post-Soviet Russia accepted an independent Ukrainian state within a dubiously drawn Communist boundary, as long as it remained neutral and respected the pro-Russian community on that land.
Cancel culturing Catherine the Great, the founder of Odessa, while treating Stepan Bandera as a hero is one of numerous tell all examples of going against prudently ethical manner.
A more important factor is that Dmitriev’s wife is a friend and colleague of Katerina Tikhonova, one of Putin’s daughters. He probably talks to the Americans more about the Russian assets and Gazprom ownership than Ukraine.
Brown and black bears can interbreed.
At least sort of. There’s been theoretical introgression and they have bred in captivity, though the offspring didn’t reach adulthood.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursid_hybrid
Pretty wild. That is like chimp distance to humans, except the chromosomes are the same number.
https://twitter.com/nrken19/status/1913616437731533048
Aren’t the black bears much smaller than brown bears? Although I’ve seen scratch marks from black bear nails on a tree bark (from climbing up) and they were quite impressive. But could be kind of an ordeal for a black bear female if she had been courted by a brown bear male, not sure she could support a larger than normal fetus through gestation and could be difficult to give birth. Or maybe the cub would have hybrid vigor. Where did this happen, in California?
There’s the the grizzly-polar bear mix, a byproduct of climate change.
Might be disinfo – a Ukrainian source reported that Lavrov and Dmitriev had a sharp exchange before the meeting with the US contingent in SA. According to this claim, Lavrov insisted that Dmitriev sit out of the meeting with the latter refusing.
Could be a parallel Witkoff-Rubio situation at play. Rubio and Lavrov are supposed to be the main point person. Witkoff and Dmitriev might be seen as outsiders with a different agenda.
The Russian Foreign Ministry and Putin might not always be so agreeable with each other. I’ve heard it said that the Russian Foreign Ministry and for that matter the Russian Defense Ministry thinks that Putin is too soft on Israel.
In turn, Witkoff and Trump aren’t beholden to neocon/neolib slants on Russia, which wasn’t and still might very well not be the case with Rubio and Waltz.
A grizzly and a polar bear might be closer in size – those are both huge. Black bears are much smaller. Btw, I saw a real grizzly bear skull recently. It’s large and kind of stretched out, and there is a sagital crest – it helps those big jaws work better when they’re chewing. It means they’re an omnivore and can take a powerful bite.
Ron Unz has undergone a religious epiphany and has recognized political k-fabe.
https://www.unz.com/runz/trump-vs-harvard-in-a-political-wrestling-match/
He doesn’t recognize the genius of the Trump brand Janus presentation as both face and heel but this is his first match so we maybe should cut him slack.
Japan is making a desperate move in the global renewable energy race, investing $5 billion to commercialize next-generation perovskite solar technology. This initiative is a strategic effort to challenge China’s dominance in solar energy and reduce reliance on fossil fuels.
“we cannot continue in terms of energy security to buy from China,” said Yana Hryshko, head of solar supply chain research at Wood Mackenzie. However, she noted that China remains the only country capable of scaling up solar production at the speed and cost necessary to drive global adoption.
“If we can clear these challenges, we will firmly enter mass production,” said Futoshi Kamiwaki, President of Sekisui Solar Film.
Looking beyond Japan, Sekisui is eyeing export markets in the U.S. and Europe, where demand for decentralized renewable energy solutions is growing. “In the domain of solar energy, this is our last chance to tackle China’s market dominance”.
Mr. Miyagi’s inner strength stems from his ancestor, Shimpo Miyagi, who drifted to China’s coast while fishing. He stayed there for 10 years, married a Chinese woman, and returned to Okinawa with his family and the knowledge that would become Miyagi-do karate.
Are the Chinese responsible for development of Miyagi-do?
Mönkhbatyn Davaajargal (Мөнхбатын Даваажаргал)
Greatest sumo wrestler of all time.
He was given the ring name (shikona) Hakuhō, with haku meaning “white” and hō, meaning the Chinese mythological bird Peng.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakuh%C5%8D_Sh%C5%8D
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I know you’re interested in this sector, are you familiar with her work?
Yana Hryshko
Managing Consultant and Head of Global Solar Supply Chain Research
https://www.woodmac.com/profiles/people-profiles/yana-hryshko/
ML, Chinese Politics and Diplomacy, Fudan University
MS, Foreign politics, Taras Shevchenko National University of Kyiv
BA, Chinese Language, Literature and Translation, Taras Shevchenko National University of Kyiv
Well I would hope MAGA stays in power after Trump, it makes more sense than whatever was being done before. I like old Trump, and power is a fascinating thing.
I deal with it by speculating, and currently I would consider many possibilities before making up my mind since it’s not yet clear to me what is happening or what the plan is.
Kinetic energy is influenced by both speed and mass, but speed has a more pronounced effect because it’s squared.
(Bonus points for the keffyeh)
The plan is a western perestroika. Call it westerstroika and hope it wouldn’t end in a catastrophic katastroika as the late and regretted Alexander Zinoviev (of Homo sovieticus fame) warned the Soviet people back then. Problem was, nobody listened to him, as usually the masses never listen to or follow high IQ individuals. That’s why Trump needs to act dumb, so people can relate. I’m not saying Trump is as smart as Zinoviev was, far from it. But Zinoviev had near zero influence while thinking and acting smart, while Trump has an outstanding influence while seemingly acting dumb. Trump isn’t dumb, he’s just seemingly acting dumb because it’s always useful when your opponents think you’re stupid. And Trump is facing a lot of opposition both at home and abroad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Zinoviev
Sic transit gloria mundi.
Nothing wrong with aspiring to something better. Even you, at some point, decided to leave Russia for greener pastures in France, or was it Montreal in Canada? Nothing worse than a hypocrite. 🙁
Once again, having been duped and disillusioned with life within the SU, why not want to separate from it all and try something new, something possibly better? Remember, it was Russia itself that first decided to cut the umbilical and leave the SU behind, and it was Ukraine that followed suit.
The foundation and trappings of Ukrainian statehood had already been laid some 70 years earlier, why not put it to use? Other countries like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia had already separated and disentangled themselves from the communist mess and had gone on to prosper?….
Besides, you had also already “betrayed your brothers and family links” and don’t seem to be any worse for the experience, as you dream of purchasing a brand new karman ghia with a case of some great french wine in the trunk. Are you really shedding many tears as you watch your own kids grow up eating french baguettes instead of dark russian rye?
I don’t think the location of the archeo stuff can be worked out too firmly.
The one firmly established cross was at the London zoo in the 1800s, a male black bear x female brown.
Some believe there was a wild cross in Alaska that back bred with brown bears, but it is uncertain.
http://messybeast.com/genetics/hybrid-bears.htm
Thanks, I’ll check it out.
I do think that there is method in the madness of Team Trump, but that he does face dissent amongst some of the people he has to rely on, and manipulation of the information that he has access to.
He seems to be more of a team player than he gets credit for, there was a now removed YT video of his election team interacting during the elections, it was quite informative about their process. Things like media communications seemed to be the result of brainstorming by several team members, and they seemed to have been working as a team quite smoothly for some time. Of course the tweets and statements get released as Trump’s voice.
I think that part of Trump’s popularity lies in the fact that he is a brand rather than just a politician. That personification of policy seems like a kind of marketing strategy, government is speaking directly to the people through Trump. I would agree that it can useful for Trump to be underestimated, he turned the tables on plenty of opponents so far.
Daniel Davis and Douglass McGregor offer some useful speculation on the subject of Trump’s advisors I believe:
Would be funny if they widely adopted this system but also put the race/ethnic group of the perp.
https://twitter.com/yuanyi_z/status/1913990306963530187
Neither should be celebrated but Catherine the Great was a German lady who killed her more-Russian husband, expanded and dramatically worsened serfdom among Slavs (both Russians and Ukrainians), invited in large numbers of German settlers into Slavic lands, and killed native Slavs who dared resist her. It’s telling that servile Russians adore this foreign overlord. Thanks for demonstrating that, even though you are generations removed from Russia and don’t even speak your ancestral language you still have that Muscovite instinct to venerate your brutal foreign master. As long as she extended the power and size of the “Russian” (foreigner-owned) German state.
In contrast to Catherine the Great, Bandera was a monstrous nationalist whose forces murdered up to 100,000 of our Polish brothers and low 10,000s Jews. He was a bad man but at least was not some sort of foreign overlord of his people but on the contrary did terrible things in support of their liberation from outsider nationalists (Poles) and Bolsheviks.
It is certainly less strange for Ukrainians to make a statue to Bandera than for Russians to put up statues to Catherine or her 20th century counterpart Stalin who like her also extended the power of a state controlled by non-Russians but based in Russia.
There are fundamental errors in the first 40 seconds of the video. I know that punchy openings help retain viewers, but this is absurd.
-1- The title of the video, chosen by Davis, is obviously wrong. This is Europe’s War, not Trump’s.
-2- Macgregor claims Trump has done nothing, which is incorrect. Trump recently signed a Continuing Resolution contains $0.00 direct assistance for Kiev aggression. That is a huge reduction from Team Biden’s number.
-3- Macgregor is correct that Zelensky is an obstacle, but he does not provide an actual mechanism for removing him. What he proposes is:
• Immediately cut off support to Ukraine
• Subsequently pulling out all Americans
Would this cause Zelensky to step down or be removed? I see no reason to believe this is the case. The more likely scenario is that Zelensky would remain in charge and be angry with the decisions.
Macgregor is willing to unnecessarily put American lives at risk. Pulling our people out of a nation that is very upset with the U.S. is fraught with peril.
A much better plan is quietly & gradually withdrawing staff and their equipment in small groups that can be protected. It may be worth leaving in place defensive systems such as Patriot with their associated support teams to facilitate the draw down of offense related capabilities.
Would you please provide a time stamp for this part of the discussion?
PEACE 😇
Also, Matthew 4:4.
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Mr. Hack’s response was more than adequate but this comment reminds me of an anecdote. It’s almost certainly a joke, I think, but given Russian obedience it might not be. With regards to “betrayal”, the Ukrainian people did indeed want to grey the hell away from Russians but the Russians were the ones who started the killing, in 2014 and escalating exponentially in 2022 and it was the Russians under their Georgian, Jewish etc. masters who murdered millions of Ukrainians in the last century, not vice versa. So please, it’s not a “two peoples equally betrayed their common legacy”.
Anyways, the anecdote:
The WWII story of a Ukrainian who was in German captivity:
“The Germans forced us to dig a hole. When the hole was ready, they lined us up. The German officer said:
-P – Rus, get out of line!
The Russians came out.
– Rus, jump into the hole!
The Russians jumped.
– Ukrainian, take the shovels and bury the Russian! We looked at each other and none of us took up the shovels. Then the German said:
– Rus, get out! Ukrainian, jump into the hole! Rus, bury Ukrainian!
Here the Russians grabbed their shovels and quickly began to bury us. When the earth reached our waist, the German stopped the Russians and asked us:
– Well, what about you, Ukrainian? Do you understand who a Russian is?
https://twitter.com/petite_michelle/status/1914170119342731531?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg
This is an excellent article, if you haven’t read it already.
https://johnhawks.net/weblog/lactase-and-the-neandertals/
Also Matthew 7:6.
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I agree with this paragraph almost completely.
Where we disagree is on the fact the one side started the killing and one side has killed more. So while both sides bear responsibility for not managing the conflict, only one side turned it into a deadly one and a war. First limited a civil war with about 13,000-14,000 deaths, then a full war with 100,000s killed.
I agree that you do not justify the invasion, you wish it never happened, but you spread the blame for this unwanted by you invasion in a way that unrealistically lessens Russian guilt for it.
Prior to 2014, Crimea was given autonomous status with Russian as an official language de jure. Russian was de facto the official language in Donbas. Kiev was mostly Russian speaking, though Ukrainian by loyalty. Those Russian-speaking ethnic Ukrainians were patriots of their county and wanted their kids to learn in and speak the Ukrainian language of their rural cousins and great-grandparents. And they wanted Ukraine to leave Russia and its political culture behind and join their Polish and Baltic brothers in the EU.
Yanukovich was pushing to solidify the status of Russian, and (in late 2013, triggering Maidan) to bind Ukraine with Russia, separating it from Europe. A minority of his electorate wanted full union with Russia, the majority preferred an independent Ukraine that was politically and economically linked to Russia and that was mostly Russian-speaking, like Canada to the USA before Trump’s idiocy.
So there were two mutually exclusive visions for Ukraine and its place, each with about half support. For demographic reasons, by 2013 the pro-Western side had a slight advantage (52%-48%), western Ukrainians had been having more kids and had a longer life expectancy since 1990.
The pro-Russians responded by changing the political rules so that the slight Ukrainian majority was prevented from taking power. This is what prompted the Maidan uprising, by the Ukrainian majority. Why does the pro-Russian side conveniently forget this?
So there was mutual pushing by pro-Russians and ethnic Russians in the East and South, and the people of the ethnic Ukrainian heartland in the West, Center, and North. It wasn’t just aggressive westerners.
Putin removed the most pro-Russian parts in 2014, and by slaughtering easterners and southerners in Odesa, Kharkiv etc. he has ended the pro-Russian political orientation in those parts. Those people no longer want their country to be Russia’s Canada. They are done with Russia.
Russians already sort of have their own country. Why should Ukrainians not have their own county too, but should have a hybrid half-Russian country simply because 20% other population was ethnic Russian?
Are you a Slavic Patriot, an all-Rus Patriot, or a Russian one only?
Because from an all-Rus perspective it shouldn’t matter if Russians are assimilated into the Ukrainian language because the Ukrainian language is also a Rus language – it was once called Little Russian. In fact, an all Rus patriot should encourage the flowering and strengthening of all the Rus cultures.
One can just as easily say that Russian nationalists who claim Ukrainian union with Russia are negating Ukrainians’ common past with Poles, which has been more extensive than the common past with Russians. Rus split up into separate warring principalities around 1150, western Rus joined Poland and Lithuania around 1350, union with Russia really only happened in 1709 for eastern Ukraine*, 1770s for the Right Bank. Galicia never was fully a part of Russia other than for a few months in 1915 – in 1939 it joined the Ukrainian SSR.
A democratic state rather than autocratic state with the Ukrainian language, Ukrainian churches, linked to western brother-nations in the EU and developing similarly to them. Not decentralized, but democratic from the level of village councils to the national level.
* Although eastern Ukraine recognized the tsar since the 1650’s, until the Battle of Poltava in 1709 it had its own government, army, courts, and used Polish currency. Polish was used in higher education in Eastern Ukraine until the 1800s.
Yana is very articulate and I was not familiar with her. Solar modules at 8 cents per watt is nice. The Chinese solar cell production overcapacity is a familiar scenario that happened in many other manufacturing industries. Eventually they will weed out all the little guys making lower quality, higher cost product and they are left with a gigantic, possibly unsubsidized industry which is difficult for anyone to compete against on cost.
It sounds like there are a lot of US solar cell manufacturing ventures which are probably energized by Trump tariffs. I wonder if the crucial polysilicon raw material still has to come from China?
Careful what you wish for…
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Your accusations are your confessions, as usual. Sorry to hear about your alcoholic upbringing.
The 14,000 number for deaths in the Donbas war comes from the UN. I was wrong when saying it was 13,300 from memory – it was 14,000 or so. But I was correct that the total number of civilians casualties was around 3,300.
Here is the actual UN report:
https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf
Page 3 (I can’t cut and paste from my phone for some reason).
14,400 total killed from 2014-2021 (mostly from 2014-2015). At least 3,404 civilians killed including the 298 people on the Malaysian airplane, 4,400 Ukrainian forces killed and 6,500 rebel forces killed.
Those killed include people killed by land mines and in the case of soldiers road accidents and improper handling of equipment. Not all of the killed were hit by bullets, bombs or missiles.
Russian propagandists and the idiots who believe them, such as Derer, just use that 14,000 number as the number of “Russian” civilians killed by Ukrainian forces.
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So whenever someone claims that 14,000 Russian civilians were killed by Ukraine’s forces, understand that the person making that claim is either a liar or an idiot.
I would say it’s indeed Trump’s war as long as the US continues to give support to Ukraine. He needs to prove that it’s not his war despite the perils of withdrawal. I would wait for proof. Saying that withdrawal would endanger US personnel sounds very similar to the justifications used to stay involved in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, etc. Suggesting tiptoeing out of Ukraine does not mean that some Ukrainians won’t realize what’s up and attack despite security arrangements.
Keep in mind that I am sceptical about USAID and other cloak and dagger operations simply coming to an end in stead of being reorganized and repurposed. Berletic may be a bit of a doomer these days, but I would not discount his take on what might be happening in the dark. Maybe it’s prudent to first see if there are still new US made weapons coming into Ukrainian hands through NATO.
Zelensky is stumbling block to peace, but that could make him useful to those who wish to continue the war. If I look at it from a perspective sympathetic to Russia, keeping Zelensky in power gives them cause to reject a forced peace plan and continue seeking a military solution.
Trump may want peace but there are those in the US government and deep state who probably would not want peace, again Zelensky is useful. I still think that there is enough reason to see Europe as a US proxy despite their disagreements. US support for Ukraine could conceivably continue indirectly while Trump washes his hands.
In the video Gorkha, Waltz, Hegseth and Rubio are named as bad advisors somewhere in the last few minutes, sounds like reasonable speculation to me, and other sources say the same things. I’m not going to watch it again.
LOL, people and commentators are entitled to their opinions, so it’s kind of bizarre if you and certain others go around calling other people wrong as if you can’t be wrong yourself. Whether McGregor or anyone else I listen to is wrong or right about something is not a big problem for me since I can agree or disagree with aspects of what they say and compare different commentators and sources that I find credible to make up my own opinion. I would share things that I allow to influence my views, but I don’t believe that there are absolute oracles of truth.
The problem is that you naively take politicians’ words at face value. You think they because politicians all say the same thing (“we are defending ourselves”) their actions are all equivalent. So by your reasoning, Hitler was equivalent to the Poles in 1939, because both sides stated they were defending themselves and someone stating pro-Polish narratives was “repeating Berlin narratives.”
Because that is what you are doing when claiming Poroshenko and Putin are the same regarding the much milder events of 2014..
Yes, an invader can and will use the same words as the invaded. Does that confuse you? Does that mean the invaded’s statements about self-defense are invalid? That because they use the same words they are really the same?
Did Russia send people across the border into Ukraine, who then killed Ukrainians, in 2014? Yes or no? Did Ukrainian shootings and bombing follow this and was therefore a response to it? Yes or no? Did Ukrainians kill more militants and invaders when responding than they did civilians? Yes or no?
Even more so for 2022.
Of course I do not want wars and invasions to continue.
Nor do I want victims to be defenseless.
I guess we’ll agree to disagree about whether bombing and strafing a building with a meeting of military leadership inside it had a good chance of killing those military leaders inside. It’s a rather funny discussion though. Like:
Mikel: When you flip a coin it is almost always heads.
AP: There’s a good chance it will be tails.
[coin is flipped; it is heads]
Mikel: as expected, it miserably failed to do so [be tails]
It was much simpler than that. Russia invaded Ukraine, killed Ukrainians and was going to continue to do that, Ukrainians fought against the invaders but in the process civilians inevitably were killed also, about 1 for every 3 invaders.
You equate the invader with the invaded because both sides said words about self-defense.
I summarized the differences between the leaders you mentioned, naturally you ignored it but focused on the fact that everyone uses similar words no matter what their actual actions. For someone who thinks intent doesn’t matter, you sure do like to use their words to show that they are all the same.
In a recent video Macgregor related a quote (from someone else) to describe the situation with Trump’s advisors: “If you hire a bunch of clowns you get a circus.” LOL.
I saw that Kellogg apparently changed his tune over the weekend, saying Russia gets Crimea and no Ukraine in NATO as part of the “term sheet”. He loosely implied the idea of no Ukraine in NATO was the policy going back to Burn’s comments in 2008. More LOL. Maybe he is trying to save his job to get a fresh chance to stab Trump in the back.
He implied that if Kiev accepts the “term sheet” they will send something similar to Russia. I wonder if the Kremlin will hold out for “deNazification”?
This is a stupid and cowardly response to my comment. I was starting to expect better from you…..
I am very skeptical of all the public theater related to Zelensky. My first interpretation of Volodymyr’s insult to Dmitriev is it is intended to give Kirill a bit more street cred in Russia. With this he isn’t immediately criticized as a Russian sellout when he maneuvers Russia into a partial capitulation which is against their interest. To defend against criticism that Dmitriev is an Atlanticist sellout, his handlers will say, “Hey, Zelensky hates him, how bad can he be?”
To get to your low level of prose, thanks for further confirming the svidomite ass that you are.
In point of fact, Catherine, who founded Odessa, is cancel cultured by the Kiev regime unlike Bandera who is honored. Catherine was a Prussian by birth who became more Russian than many Russians. The Russian ideal embraces folks of part Russian and non-Russian backgrounds who support Russia.
This is something anathema to racist simpletons who essentially masturbate over a person’s IQ and DNA. Regarding your persona:
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+an+autistic+person+have+a+high+iq&sca_esv=0bc33a5bd2acc5d5&source=hp&ei=11cGaJDgFsSf5NoPoK_p-AE&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAaAZl52A0wrqwV1nDbYHMp59VHFjT6pVt&oq=can+an+autistic+peerson+have+a+high+IQ&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IiZjYW4gYW4gYXV0aXN0aWMgcGVlcnNvbiBoYXZlIGEgaGlnaCBJUSoCCAAyBxAAGIAEGA0yBhAAGBYYHjILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMgsQABiABBiGAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCBAAGIAEGKIESMJdUABYjklwAHgAkAEAmAF5oAHdFqoBBDM2LjK4AQHIAQD4AQGYAiWgAtMYwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIFEAAYgATCAg4QLhiABBixAxiDARiKBcICEBAuGIAEGNEDGEMYxwEYigXCAgsQABiABBiRAhiKBcICChAAGIAEGEMYigXCAhMQLhiABBixAxjRAxhDGMcBGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICBRAhGKABwgIFECEYnwXCAggQABiiBBiJBZgDAJIHBDMzLjSgB5C2ArIHBDMzLjS4B9MY&sclient=gws-wiz
During her reign, Russia experienced an enhancement of culture and sciences, as well as the founding of many new cities, universities, and theaters, along with large-scale immigration from the rest of Europe and the recognition of Russia as one of the great powers of Europe. Besides Odessa, the other cities founded under Catherine are Yekaterinoslav (Dnipro/Dnipropetrovsk), Kherson, Nikolayev, and Sevastopol.
FYI, Catherine’s husband was a Germanphile who cheated on her, while carrying on in an immature manner, thereby explaining your uncritical characterization of him. BTW, he was born Charles Peter Ulrich of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp, the grandson of Peter the Great and great-grandson of Charles XI of Sweden. His apparent more Russian DNA to Catherine underscores your idiotic talking point.
Catherine should be assessed by what the world was like back then. Reminded of the number of slaves Thomas Jefferson had.
Bandera was involved in killing a good number of Ukrainians who opposed him. More Ukrainians fought on the side of the Red Army than with Bandera. His religious affiliation constitutes a minority of Ukrainian Christians. Hence, it’s quite asinine of you to say that his legacy should command more reverence than Catherine’s.
Contrary to what you said, I’m not “generations removed from Russia.” Not that the intended subject matter should get personal – something that svidomites like yourself will sleazily bring up to divert attention away from the crackpot notions you peddle.
Zelensky isn’t politically sophisticated to act in such a manner. He’s a turncoat who has gone the svidomite route.
Regardless, I disagree with the notion that D’s US biz educational upbringing and focus on biz issues makes him a opponent against Russia’s core interests. He has been put in a specialist role with Lavrov handling the geopolitical aspects the latter is tasked with.
Putin knows that D’s biz emphasis is an attraction to Trump-Witkoff.
That response was the most adequate one Mr Hack.
Oftentimes humour is the best way of handling cringe situations.
What can I really reply to someone who is accusing me of being a venal hypocrite, a traitor and is writing silly stuff about my kids ?
Get angry at an old man that I rather appreciate?
I prefer staying cool and take it lightly.
We learn to do that in Zen Buddhism.
We also learn to look deeply into causes and consequences of difficult situations.
Perhaps you should also try this, it sometimes helps to see the picture more clearly.
BTW, I understand why you are frustrated with my attitude, you would like me to write that the Ukrainian side of the conflict did nothing wrong and are innocent victims of an unprovoked Russian aggression.
I agree that they are victims and that some of them are indeed innocent. However, unfortunately Russian aggression in this case, although deplorable and unjustified, is far from being unprovoked.
Everything happens for a reason Mr Hack, including my reply to you.
I hope you understand, if not then as a Russian saying goes: “горбатого могила исправит».
At the risk of repeating myself:
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.01.budd.html
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An incredibly scant number of people thinking this does not make it true.
Almost everyone understands that Trump inherited the problem from Team Biden. Some things can be solved instantly. Alas, international statecraft does not fall in that category. One of the steps in making a graceful exit is a sincere effort at reaching a deal.
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Let me try to illustrate the semantic issue.
You are driving a car.
A tree falls in front of you.
You do what can to stop.
You hit the tree.
What would your response be if someone said you intentionally hit the tree — It is “James’s War” versus the Tree — James picked a fight with that Tree and lost. Clearly James is at fault because he did not stop the car instantly.
I suspect that you would say that is not correct. You inherited the problem when the tree fell in front if you.
Now apply that same logic & language choice to Trump inheriting the Kiev problem from Team Biden. Remember that Trump is a President, not a God Emperor. His 2nd term administration has a less than fully cooperative House, Senate, Judiciary, and deep state. The White House has many other priorities that it is juggling. Despite all those obstacles, Trump has done more to push for peace than anyone else.
Neither “James’s War” nor “Trump’s War” are helpful as a linguistic constructs. In both cases it incorrectly connotes blame when the problem demonstrably started elsewhere.
What happened when there was a precipitous withdrawal in Afghanistan?
• Troops died.
• Massive amounts of material was abandoned.
• American civilians were cut off instead of being evacuated.
• Unvetted Afghanis were brought to the U.S. who turned out to be bad actors.
Given this recently demonstrated fiasco, why do you want a “Cut & Run”?
Do you not see that you are proposing a *maximum* risk approach?
Nothing is perfect. All Trump can do is *minimize* risk. This means not backing the Kiev regime into a corner where they feel compelled to lash out. These are not the only possible components, but two pieces to such a strategy could include:
-1- Do not provoke the Kiev regime with spectacle. Take manpower and material out slowly without public announcements.
-2- Let them keep something tangible that would be lost if there is an attack. Patriot is strictly defensive but high visibility. This is one option, but feel free to suggest others.
Would such a method be guaranteed 100% success. Of course not. However, this approach is vastly safer than a very public “Cut & Run”.
I concur.
The European Empire (primarily Germany, France, UK) wants the war to continue even though America wants it to stop. Führer Zelensky is their proxy or puppet. However, they will have to come up with an ADDITIONAL €5 billion+ per month to keep the fight going How long can they afford to do so?
Russia would take a fair peace at this point. They have achieved key gains that represent a win:
• Parts of 4 oblasts, effectively a land bridge protecting Crimea
• ZNPP to provide electricity for industrial and commercial purposes
• Access to the Dniper to refill the Crimean canal system
The hardest part of any deal will be coming up with enforceable provisions that prevent Ukraine from being used by Europe to start Round 2 some years down the line.
I must disagree. Europe ran Team Biden’s Ukraine policy. During that time there was enough reason to see the White House occupant as Europe’s proxy.
Does the European Empire still have deep state influence and actors inside the U.S. government? This is a reasonable assumption.
As I often point out — It is impossible to obtain 100% of absolutely everything instantly. Terminating USAID was only one step towards solving a much larger problem. Hopefully, the complete staff clear means that preserved documents will lead to other anti-American deep state cells.
• Gorkha is working counter terrorism. He is not in the room when Ukraine is being discussed. Even if he would offer bad advice, he does not have the opportunity to so. IMHO he really should not speak publicly outside his portfolio. If he is allowed to do so, his personal views are not those of the administration.
• Waltz is indeed highly questionable. To expedite Senate confirmations, Trump had to let key Senators select a few names. Waltz is suspected to be one of those horse trades.
• Are there any specifics related to Hegseth or Rubio? I doubt either would be providing bad Ukraine advice. Hegseth wants to rebuild U.S. strength, which means restocking depleted stores. His brief would include, stop sending stuff overseas.
Apologies.
Alas, the TUR commentariat is often less than civilized. Many are not very bright. Sometimes it seems like progress is being made, then the shrill whine JJJjjjOOOoooozzzzz comes in crushing rational though.
To push back against these problems one has to write assertively, bluntly, and sadly often repetitively.
PEACE 😇
Team Trump’s efforts related to the Ukraine conflict in the current term are good and very promising. Unfortunately, we have not had enough time to discern what is really going on.
Considering the Ukraine war is clearly a proxy war between the USA-led NATO and Russia, then Trump is as involved as anyone. It is definitely his war.
Trump was at the helm when the USA dropped out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) nuclear arms control treaty and also the Open Skies arms control treaties. You have previously made excuses for the USA departure from INF, but from a Russian perspective this was obviously a serious escalation from the US side. This move put the lie to the ridiculous claim that the USA withdrawal from the ABM nuclear arms control treaty was not directed at Russia. As such it was a huge escalation and made it clear that the USA was reviving the nuclear Cold War. Trump was in charge when this happened. Arguably these two actions made it much more difficult for Russia to pursue a compromise in Ukraine and may have contributed to the Russian decision to start the SMO less than two years later. The Minsk II subterfuge was also occurring on Trump’s watch.
I understand there may be favorable justifications and explanations for the Trump behavior, but they ring hollow until we know more. Until that information is available pretending this is not his war is unreasonable.
The Ukraine fight is clearly a proxy war between imperial Europe and Russia. It was never America’s fight. The European Empire used the prior White House occupant as a proxy. The fight predated Trump.
• It is definitely *not* America’s war.
• It is definitely *not* Trump’s war.
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You have previously made many excuses, thus giving China a free ride. Why do you keep shilling for their position by wanting restrictions on the U.S. but none on China’s ABM development? Your assertion that China would give up the advantage of a free ride is an unrealistic sugar plum fantasy.
The INF treaty was conceived of before cruise missile technology was the norm. It made sense on its signing date as a trade off for land based ballistic missiles. Unfortunately, technological advancement made it functionally obsolete. IIRC Russia was building artificial ponds for “water launch” cruise. At the same time, America was vastly increasing its “air launch” capabilities. Despite your excessive protestations, Russia did not believe the end of the INF treaty was particularly provocative.
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To assign blame you need to look at European IslamoGloboHomo leaders:
• Not a Jew Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel, single handedly convinced Zelensky to abrogate the Minsk deal. She openly admits she did it.
• Not a Jew BoJo and not a Jew Scholz tanked the Istanbul talks.
The responsibility of non-Jewish Europeans is amazingly obvious. They are the backers and puppet masters of Führer Zelensky.
Pretending that Kiev aggression is American or Trump’s is wholly unreasonable. Worse yet, misportraying the situation to cover for European led IslamoGloboHomo perfidy only makes it harder to solve the problems. What do you get out of endlessly griping about Trump when he is sincerely pushing for a peace deal?
If you want Kiev aggression to stop — you need to find a way to pressure the likes of Merz, Macron, and Starmer.
PEACE 😇
Buzz off with your lies A sinine P erson! Lies, and more lies and slander…stick to your f Galicia.
Sorry to say this but this Pope did not appear to me…the previous German Pope Benedict (close friend of John Paul II) was chased out by machination and replaced by this too old Cardinal.
That is an interesting way to phrase it. I read it was blackmail. Too tied up with too many pedos.
Did you see the latest J. D. Vance chat leak? Jared Kushner told him to tell the Pope to make sure and sun his balls.
On a more positive note Daily Mail has a review on the new Elvis book.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14626717/elvis-presley-alien-new-book-occult.html
no paywall: https://archive.ph/FTmJw#selection-865.0-865.134
Awesome collection of Elvis photos.
You have to remember AP is autistic with a maturity of an 8-year old. He is also experiencing a complete collapse of his worldview – it’s all gone: mono-lingual Ukraine, NATO, “Europe” or “Rzceczpospolita” (not sure what that is, but it’s gone)…
It will get harder, US-Trump pulled the plug on the Greater Ukraine project because it failed. AP, LatW, Johnson will be spotting defecting Norkie soldiers, counting obituaries, calming themselves with hatred. Then they will go silent, we are almost there…
https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-be-the-next-pope
Pietro Parolin 36%
Luis Antonio Tagle 25.4%
Pierbattista Pizzaballa 10.3%
Péter Erdő 7.4%
I don’t have anything against Trump or MAGA, in fact I like both, but I will take what you say as a possibility, just like the other possibilities I mentioned. The US under Trump is intervening in my country and it’s raising already high tensions, so for Trump to fail would leave some people here high and dry. We have been a proxy of the West before. I’ll have to take the path my people choose no matter what I believe.
I don’t think that Ukraine or Russia is willing to stop fighting, and I would remain sceptical about peace for now, even if it is only to avoid disappointment. I’m also biased towards the Russian Federation which leads me to believe that they may negotiate but probably not settle for the current situation. Part of the tragedy is what has been unleashed, it’s going to be hard to stop such a process, and I don’t believe that Russia has been tested to her limits just yet.
Yes it’s not always easy to stay reasonable when commentating here, but I’m finding that I am feeling more at ease as I get to try to understand things. As I remember I trolled a lot more in the past.
They should bring in a subsaharan African pope. That would be truly inclusive. Aren’t we all God’s children?
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Putin’s announcement in 2018 of the six advanced weapon systems designed to protect and counterbalance Russia against the long-standing and increasingly aggressive posture of the USA and Europe occurred on Trump’s watch. This announcement occurred in the second year of Trump’s term, so apparently his presidency had not reassured the Russian leadership. Presumably the announcement was somewhat of a bargaining chip which might have been used to delay Russian deployment in exchange for the USA to stop her aggressive anti-Russia activities, particularly in Ukraine. Trump’s inability to pursue actions and treaties to slow deployment of this set of Russian weapons is his worst failure. OK, third worst failure after COVID and the Warp Speed mRNA travesty. Since then the Kinzhal and Zircon have been used in combat, the Avangard is on active duty and Sarmat may be on limited duty. The status of Burevestnik is unknown, but the Oreshnik got ramped into use last year. Peresvet is reportedly fielded since 2019. In other words, Trump’s track record on this stuff is worse than I had realized. Of course these issues go back to earlier administrations, but there is no evidence Trump made any improvement in these critical areas in term one. Let’s pray that he does better this time.
Sure, America is not the major driving force behind the Ukraine conflict, whatever you say. Believe whatever fantasy you want. Maybe you should invite Hack over for one of your glue sniffing parties. Every time he says “Slava Ukraini!” you can say “Trump, Trump, Trump!”
The top negro bishop hates homos. Nobody has the courage to ask him about trannies.
In other words no way. In polymarket terms .000000000001%
Tagle is a Filipino. I like saying Pierbattista Pizzaballa.
Skip to 1:00 for the punch line.
You do not understand the reality of professional wrestling.
These fellows take a lot of drugs.
Time may tell.
I still assume Zelensky is 100% puppet, though he may have gained a bit of agency by learning about the skeletons in the closet.
Trump has two domestic snakes that he has to face…namely the obvious one vindictive DNC and then his party neocons that are silently against him. His hesitation in making a good relation with Russia is obvious…potential impeachment is on his mind especially after unsuccessful mid term. Bringing back Bannon teaming up with Vance as his top advisers will bring success.
I tried to reply to your unsuccessful attempts at trying to somehow denigrate Ukraine’s attempts to separate itself from Russia just after the break-up of the Soviet Union. I inferred that Ukraine’s bid for sovereignty and to seek a better course for its future were very similar to your own, when you left Russia at approximately the same time. It’s okay for you to pursue a better life for yourself somewhere in France while you’ve left Russia behind, yet when a whole people that couldn’t just get up and leave decide to try and implement some of the same values that helped to make France an enviable destination to work and live within, you’re the one that calls the people of Ukraine those that “betrayed [its] brothers and family links”. Has Ukraine really betrayed its “brothers and family links” any more than you have by leaving Russia behind and taking up permanent residence somewhere in France? Yes, I think that calling you a hypocrite is appropriate in this instance.
Besides, “brothers” don’t start a war by invading their neighbor’s country, rape its women and kill its defenseless civilians including children. Why don’t you go back to Russia and help your brothers and family out in this glorious fight for unification of the whole family?
There is fundamental problem with trying to blame America with grand geopolitical plans for Ukraine. For years, we have been simultaneously dysfunctional and wrapped up in our own internal issues.
If you go all the way back to Obama, he had figures like Nuland that were indeed trouble makers. However, it is not clear that Ukraine was a specific priority. He and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, created problems around the globe. Does everyone remember Benghazi?
Trump’s 1st term was blighted by a rogue special prosecutor and the now 100% debunked Russia, Russia, Russia myth. There was a single package of over $100MM for Ukraine. It was timed to coincide with a Putin election win and was obviously intended for domestic concerns. Despite the money flowing overseas it had nothing to do with foreign policy.
The Veggie-in-Chief and his druggie son were on sale to the highest bidder on a case by case basis. European Globalists bought the rights to the Ukraine arms and money laundering operation. The American people were comprehensively sold out by Team Biden.
Which brings us to the current date. The faux impeachment sham is gone. Trump’s 2nd term is disengaging from prior problems. However, it is not an instantaneous process. Given his budget of $0.00 for Kiev aggression, it is clear that Trump is trying to, as gracefully as possible, extract America from Europe’s Folly.
I strongly suggest patience, rather than premature panic.
The Ukrainian people cannot want to “Fight to the Last Ukrainian” for antisemitic European Globalism. Alas, European elites own & operate Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews. The Ukrainian people need to replace Zelensky with negotiation capable leadership. Unfortunately, there is no orderly path for this given cancelling of elections, banning of opposition parties, etc.
There is good reason to believe that Putin would stop if there was a good deal. Taking Odessa and leaving Ukraine landlocked looks good on paper. However, his generals must be pointing out the huge liability of a hostile population. The people of Mariupol wanted to be Russian. Odessa does not. The long-term insurgent problem would be massive.
PEACE 😇
Just because some of us leave this forum (which is almost an echo chamber – with only a few exceptions – for people who want to hear only certain things and to affirm their beliefs with similar thinking folks), doesn’t mean we are ‘going silent’, as you say. The most interesting things in the world affairs are only beginning…
The Russians position (so far leaked gossip) to Trump is simple – war is completed, 4 oblasts to Russia and recognized by the US/UN. If this variant is rejected – war continues for Kharkov, Dnipro and Odesa oblasts added for annexation. Russia is rolling and the variant II is for augmented motivation to accept the variant I.
And if Trump had not withdrawn from INF, all six would have still been rolled out. The PR might have been slightly different, but systems with years or even more than a decade of development do not rest on a single piece of paper being kept or cancelled.
You are repeatedly making the proverbial mountain out of the equally proverbial molehill. Those few who could be convinced of your fringe theory have already accepted your wild suppositions. You are not going to make more converts to your extremist cult.
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Everyone notices that you ignored the most critical part of my post. Let me refresh your memory.
If you want Kiev aggression to stop — you need to find a way to pressure the likes of Merz, Macron, and Starmer.
How does your screeching over INF impact Not-a-Jew Merz?
How does your screaming over INF impact Not-a-Jew Macron?
How does your wailing over INF impact Not-a-Jew Starmer (∆)?
The answer to all three question is the same… It does not. To address the issue that exists *now* you must deal with the money flows present *now*. That *current* support is predominantly via the Islamophile nations of Germany, France, and the UK.
After WW III is averted, please feel free to write a specialist history text about the minutiae of ABM and INF wind down. Perhaps it will find favor among ivory tower academics like Jeffery Sachs.
PEACE 😇
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(∆) Starmer is an open atheist despite his wife’s religion.
You are the one who posted the number 14,000. You stupidly repeated it it was 14,000 killed Russian civilians.
I posted the source for that 14,000 number, the UN report, that also the details of what it includes – about 11,000 dead soldiers and about 3,000 dead civilians.
If the UN lied then the number 14,000 that you used was also a lie.
When your side are caught lying or being stupid all you can do scream and cry. Typical and predictable. With Beckow it is autism, with you it is lie or alcoholic families. You guys each just display your personal issues.
The leaked U.S. Kellogg maps are consistent with this. Fundamentally, the new border would be similar to the current contact line and include a DMZ on both sides.
Why combine US/UN? Do you mean UNSC? Or, UNGA? Let’s face it. The UN is totally worthless. It is best to exclude them entirely.
PEACE 😇
Because I am against the war since day one and against Putin’s regime since 1999. Just in case you missed it, I actually left RF after losing hope that the political situation will change there. Not that I need to somehow justify myself. Anyway, as I already mentioned a few weeks ago, you seem to have a weird idea of me. That’s okay, we’re all biased one way or another and war certainly can exacerbate some biases in some people. Especially the elderly (I see it now with my mom that I often have to bring back to reality when she starts ranting too much about the khokhols) so I don’t judge you harshly Mr Hack.
Also, Matthew 7: 1-6
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I wonder if there are still too many people who want to keep fighting on every side including Ukraine, Russia, USA and Western Europe? I don’t think it stops until either the Ukrainians decide to reject the USA and Western Europe or simply most of the Ukrainian country is destroyed and cannot put up resistance. Otherwise this crisis probably just revives in a few years in some way which is even harder for Russia.
There is good reason to believe that Putin would stop if there was a good deal. Taking Odessa and leaving Ukraine landlocked looks good on paper.
Why should Putin get Odessa when he hasn’t taken Kharkiv?
What is with this weird obsession over landlocking Ukraine in the Black sea?
You do realize we have this thing called trains?
The people of Mariupol wanted to be Russian.
What is your basis of that belief? Mariupol was never part of the separatist movement.
More Russian assault e-scooters spotted
Maybe you can start a gofundme for solar chargers. Help Russian soldiers charge their e-scooters in the field for the glory of Russia.
I’m sure that after several centuries of trying to co-exist with their russian “brothers”, many Ukrainians felt the same way and felt that a separation and different orientation would help in the long run. It’s strange to me that you can’t seem to understand this, having left Russia behind and finding something better far away. You’re not the only one, and there are even worse hypocrites like Geraldina who is a cowardly draft dodger standing on the sidelines cheering Putler’s war in Ukraine.
Have previously read, and commented on, but it certainly is an interesting theory.
What I was wondering is if it could be promoting some neotenous shift in the immune system – a different profile for dealing with certain common childhood diseases – that could have use in adulthood in certain environments. But it is just a crazy theory.
Another possibility which I think I abandoned for some reason is that maybe lactase itself could be useful against some bacterial coatings.
Funny how you, AP and LatW soured on me just because I happen to be Russian, although my attitude towards this war has been consistent and didn’t change since day one. I just want this absurd and deadly conflict to end ASAP.
Haters gonna hate, I suppose…
Also, Luke 6:41-42.
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That looks like the legendary Bob Lazar jet engine hot rod.
Reform UK is now accepting BNP members (Bangladeshi Nationalist Party.)
https://twitter.com/RokoMijic/status/1914389318933893347
I agree. But it could be said many times in the past…The difference today is that many accumulated contradictions are no longer ignorable or even solvable. It will be a roller-coaster for a while.
That’s not the case, there are fairly in-depth coherent statements of different views. Don’t underestimate how much of it penetrates. The issue we are facing is that in a war there are eventually only two sides, we have become very polarized – AP used to favor Donbas going to Russia, he even welcomed it, he won’t do it now. It’s all or nothing making our discussion unhinged. But a victory in a war is always unhinged, it cuts through the complexity and is by definition unjust to somebody.
I find the recent escapes into minutia (Norkies!) by the Kiev supporters illuminating. Why do it? It’s meaningless trivia. But it’s also an emotional support – no matter what they avoid staring at the reality of an inevitable loss.
It’s not over yet, I have argued for years it will end in Russia’s win: small, medium, or big…It certainly looks that way. I didn’t think the hapless Euros would jump in to share in the loss but that’s what Euro elites always do. We all learn something every day…:)
Quite probably just a coincidence but several bacterial infections can cause temporary lactose intolerance by disrupting lactase expression.
You do realize that cargo ships are larger and cheaper than trains?
You do realize that Western Europe can only buy a fraction of Ukraine’s agricultural output.
You do realize that sea freighters directly connect Ukrainian sellers to often African buyers without expensive transshipment through Europe?
As a high-level strategic concept having a huge chunk of Ukraine’s hard currency trade and overall economy totally dependent on Russian ports is a concept with considerable upside. This is neither weird nor an obsession.
If Ukraine negotiates in good faith now, this entire scenario becomes moot. The key problem is that Europe’s puppet, Führer Zelensky, is not negotiation capable.
PEACE 😇
Claiming that the Ukrainians would attack Americans personnel is a bold and vile accusation of something that has not even happened – and most likely will never happen. Yes, the current American actions (and even more so the current rhetoric) do deserve disdain (not just from Ukrainians), but to assume that American nationals would be physically attacked, unprovoked, is a fantastical scenario. Very unethical to even contemplate such. Besides, there is not a lot of American personnel in Ukraine to begin with – the US never sent troops, but mostly aging weapons. I’m not going into details into how this all benefited the US (which it did, even just purely from the war intelligence aspect).
That said, the ambassador unfortunately just bailed – it proved to be too tough to defend or downplay the killings of Ukrainian children by Putin, the way Trumpists must have instructed her. An honest woman, she stepped down.
USAID, while important, was just one wing of US power and it did in fact focus more on humanitarian aspects. The current US administration, despite of attempting to wreck the State Department, has decided to retain a few offices, such as the Envoy for Holocaust issues and the Envoy for Combatting Antisemitism. There is most likely a significant effort on the financial sector end as well. Of course, everything now is in disarray due to Trump’s actions, so we still need to wait to see what remains when the dust settles. It’s clear that they will continue meddling, just in a different way (and they may not succeed because they have wrecked a lot of useful systems and relationships in the process).
Zelensky is just a politician, you have to consider the ideas, not the person – most Ukrainians will fight for the territorial integrity and freedom of their country. There are millions, possibly tens of millions in Europe who stand behind this Ukrainian aspiration and their sacred right to live freely on their land. When you’re trashing Zelensky, you’re attacking all of these people. It’s not about Zelensky, a different president would be expected to support and serve the idea of Ukraine’s sovereignty and the interests of her people. What is happening in Ukraine has great implications for overall European security so most Europeans support Ukraine. I just thought you should know this, even if you might be further removed since you’re on the African continent. But if you respect the principle of sovereignty, then it should matter to you, too.
The US will have to return to the friendly transatlantic family, if they do not want to stay alone. Russia will never replace Europe in relation to the US, as Trump, Vance and Witkoff are hoping. Some of us who have principles, will no longer take them back but the governments most likely will.
Whatever support there is (or isn’t) is not hard to detect, because it directly affects the front lines. The officers on the front lines regularly inform the public of what is missing and what isn’t.
I would highly recommend to you to expand your sources beyond McGregor. There are good sources beyond the so called ‘mainstream media’, best is to take from Ukrainians themselves.
Should Trump go to Berlin and give a speech to adulating crowds of supporters and command “Mr. Merz, tear down this wall of wokeness! Ich bin ein AfD-Anhänger!“?
I haven’t started to hate you because you’re a Russian. I’m disappointed in you because you try to paint Ukraine as some ungrateful state that has somehow ““betrayed [its] brothers and family links”.
Perhaps you have actually “betrayed your brothers and family links” that you left behind when you left home in search of a better life abroad? So you could be projecting your own guilt onto others, in this case the whole Ukrainian people. But I don’t hate you for this, and in fact understand your motivations. Just quit being a hypocrite, and we’ll resume our longstanding friendship here at this blog site. Heck, you can resume your untenable stance, and I’ll still respect you. 🙂
There are new elements now, such as new strong actors (a much stronger China), there is a much stronger interconnectivity due to globalism, new technologies. But the human nature is the same.
Well, it is true that there are a few very intelligent posters here (the only reason I stuck around this long). But there is also what seems an emotional need for confirmation of one’s views (maybe on both sides). I was just showing some skepticism that the pro-Ukrainian side would just go silent, as you implied. 🙂 There are still plenty of avenues out there to stay busy on. 🙂
I can see very well where it’s penetrating, it’s not that complicated.
That’s because the geopolitical realities are changing very quickly right now, it’s normal for sides to get stabilized on their own interests and especially in the light of potential danger, for positions to harden (in fact, you could see positions to go even further than what we have now, depending on what happens). The children’s security is at stake, and one’s freedom, not just one’s lifestyles or opinions.
It’s not unhinged (with a few exceptions, people can have moments). It’s the nature of human conflict.
Actually, it’s not – the presence of North Korean (and now Chinese) troops in Ukraine, so close to the EU, is a very big deal. Many in Europe understand this and are concerned, while the likes of yourself feign complacency. That Asians (I know a very broad term) are present – that is nothing new, Moscow has always used Asians to attack Europeans (even Ivan Grozny had Tatar troops when attacking Livonia), and that should be a concern in and of itself, but that Norks are now used, is very concerning, in fact Moscow is using a myriad of nations to attack Europe via Ukraine – one can see various sorts of Africans, Cubans, many Eurasian nationalities, the Ukrainians even captured an eskimo who is more related to Aleuts, who live out there.. this is being truly underestimated by the Western Euros and especially the US.
That’s why Trump’s attempt to go sober and realistic should be welcomed. We don’t want to end up on a bunch of tangents into infinity with no common ground.
I am skeptical of “freedom” talk and abstract terms that don’t translate into much. Freedom is an individual thing, some have it, others prefer not to risk it. But it’s not a general good to build a society on or fight a war – wars diminish freedom for all involved, it’s built into what a war is. Let’s stay closer to the ground, the highfalutin concepts like ‘freedom’, ‘justice’ are a dead-end – each side sees them in its own way.
Tatars live in Europe – check out the map, see where Kazan is…:) The Ukie side has Colombians, Asians, Africans, and Russians just caught a Mexican mercenary. Why not Norkies or Chinese? Both side use them, you are making a big deal about nothing. In the past UK used Nepalese, France used Africans, UK-France allied with Ottomans to attack Russia…that’s the way it has always been, how are Russians different? You seem confused.
You do realize that cargo ships are larger and cheaper than trains?
Yes but the cost difference isn’t significant.
Would Russia shut off the ports to Ukrainian grain? Of course not. That would be throwing away money.
You do realize that Western Europe can only buy a fraction of Ukraine’s agricultural output.
It would go on rail to another port like Constanta.
Shipping to China is easy from any European port. They normally have empty ships going back to China because of the Euro/Chinese trade deficit. The same is true for the US.
You guys are thinking in terms of WW2 or something. As if Russia would sink the ships with submarines.
As a high-level strategic concept having a huge chunk of Ukraine’s hard currency trade and overall economy totally dependent on Russian ports is a concept with considerable upside. This is neither weird nor an obsession.
Nothing would be dependent on Russian ports. Look a map before making up your lines of bullshit.
Russia would in fact have to provide a competitive price or else the grain will go to Poland or Romania.
Even under Putin they are still selling Uranium to the US. Your dwarf hero can’t turn down a dollar.
A future Russia could give it all back. Putin’s support depends on USSR nostalgic boomers. Melitopol and Crimea have changed hands numerous times.
Could you please elaborate what it is exactly that the US under Trump are doing that makes you say they are intervening in your country (South Africa, right)? And what exactly is it that is “raising tensions”? Thanks.
It is artificial insemination and I imagine they deliver through C-section, but the cama (camel x lama) has only been successully created using female lamas, even though they are significantly smaller animals.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cama_(animal)
They supposedly diverged 17 million years ago.
It is so obvious, Zelensky is doing everything to stay in power in the role of being a PR servant for the gang (relatively a small group)…without that he is finished politically and biologically. The war keeps him in power but there is a limit to that, the UkieNazi will whack him when he won’t be able to deliver dough and hardware anymore. The gang is now getting desperate when rejected Minsk agreement appears to be a bonanza in comparison to the present predicament with fading US support.
There has been an alpaca craze in the Baltic states in the recent years – people keep them on farms and make textiles from their fur. These camas seem to have much less fur so I wonder if they have any use besides just being pets.
Have recently been watching these super cute videos about mini cows – they are like those super hairy Scottish cows, just smaller. I hadn’t known such even existed. They were probably artificially selected.
The large Scottish cows seem quite valuable to keep, but these mini ones are probably just good to keep as pets (or for a petting zoo for kids).
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LqnYPBAXzA0
I’m not projecting anything on Ukrainians. I lived through the fall of the USSR, I know what I am talking about. If you re-read carefully enough what I answered AP, I wrote that all us poor “советские люди” were quite naive and ignorant of the basic principles of life in a capitalist economy. We all just wanted a “better life” and misunderstood what a “good life” really means.
And to justify our desires, we attached it to nationalism, freedom seeking, religious liberation, return to “the land of the ancestors” (in the case of Soviet Jews seeking emigration to Israel) etc. Soviet system was too rational (strangely enough it was) for a normal human being to find normal human life in it.
Ukrainians went their own way, Russians went their own route, it would have stayed a mild separation if not for Southeastern Ukraine, especially Donbas, where there was a gradient of identity, not a clear separation. If you asked most Russians what they thought of Galicians in 1985, they would have said that they’re as foreign as Balts (we always saw Balts as foreign, that’s why we don’t care that they’re not white us, they’re not “family”). But if you asked about Donbas the answer would have been different, most people would have answered “they’re like us, they’re not really different”. About central Ukraine, the feeling would have been different “they’re similar, but not quite”, a kind of 50/50. But with Donbas, it was “свои люди”.
And yet they voted for separation and independence. And it’s about them, not about the Ukrainians in general that I wrote that they actually suffer because there was that betrayal. The Galicians didn’t betray anything, they were forced into USSR, the Ukrainians (a separate category from the Galicians/Zapadentsy) were a mixed bag, they contributed mighty to Soviet buildup, but Donbasers, Odessites and Russian Crimeans were Soviet a 100%, they spoke Russian, had the same folklore and customs, same food etc. No difference, and yet they preferred separation from their kin and kind. They did because they thought they would gain more and gain more specifically on a material level, they would be more wealthy.
They got it wrong because in fact – on the opposite of what they were saying in their separatist slogans – it was Russia that was “feeding” the other republics through a massive transfer of wealth as natural resources and energy and yeah population to build and develop local economies. I went to Odessa in 2018, it looked like Leningrad in 1998. It was going down, not up. And my Ukrainian friends told me that it is not better elsewhere in Ukraine, Odessa was good, some other places were worse.
Meanwhile, most major RF towns were experiencing a renaissance, although glubinka (the hinterland) was damaged and actually oftentimes getting worse. Why that difference? Simple: because RF is a wealthier country resources-wise. And this is precisely why the collective West needs it weakened and dependent, because otherwise it’s too strong to be pushed around and manipulated. Ukraine became a tool of Western pressure on RF. It didn’t have to be that way. As you know well «ласкова теля двух маток сосе». Ukraine could have the best of both worlds, but it is ending up losing both.
It’s a tragedy…
It’s not realistic, because he wanted to take all of Ukraine’s resources, indefinitely, and give it to Americans or just American oligarchs. Without giving literally zero in return. That’s even crazier than the British terms for Hong Kong (they had a date when they would leave). It’s not just unrealistic, but simply delusional.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Freedom can be very concrete – both for individuals and whole nations. So if someone is trying infringe upon that freedom, it’s definitely high time to push back.
During war time, freedom can be diminished with a strict purpose, but it is frreedom that is fought for.
Freedom absolutely is a “general good”, when other nations try to dictate to your nation. Then to fight off those nations is absolutely worth it. Because the odds are often good that one will be successful.
I have no problem whatsoever to talk about concrete things, as I have. The problem is that you try to speak for others, for Ukrainians, Latvians, etc., trying to lecture them as it you know better what is good for them. Yet when your people are in question, you immediately change and start bringing up excuses. Why can’t Slovaks be in one state with the Czechs? And why can’t Slovaks be a part of a larger Hungary? Why do Slovaks even need to be inside of the EU or much less NATO, which you so despise? You see, we don’t decide these things for you but for some reason you believe that you can judge whether others should value their freedom or not, and you insist that others be subjugated by larger nations.
True, Tatars are relatively close, although their religion is alien to Euros. And there are different types of Tatars, and these Tatars have also fought Moscow. However, for the Livonians they were alien intruders. The Livonians didn’t attack Tartaria. But for some reasons the Tatars felt it’s ok to come to Livonia and kill and torture its inhabitants. If it wasn’t for them, our population would be much larger today. Maybe this is exactly what Moscow did not want?
You are on the side of non-Euros killing Euros. Noted.
Same as now – we have done nothing to the Buryats or North Korenas. But somehow they believe it was ok to come to Ukraine and murder Ukrainian sons. That you feel that this is ok only speaks for who you are.
There is a fundamental difference if one is fighting on the side of an invading occupationist, genocidal force (the Russian Federation) or a country that is defending itself (Ukraine). Don’t pretend these are the same. You know very well they’re not.
This is a far more reasonable and insightful take than when you claim Ukrainians and Russians are equally responsible for the war.
But they can also be criticized for not betraying “enough.” That is, they voted to leave the USSR but then prevented the state that they chose to join from integrating with the EU, and becoming a member of NATO. So they betrayed everyone. Both betrayals led to their complete misery. Had they maintained union with Russia they would not have experienced war, and had they from the 1990’s voted for pro-Western parties and gotten into NATO they would not have experienced the recent wars.
Lviv was great in 2017 and when I visited earlier. Friends from Poland who travelled there in 2016 said it reminded them of Krakow in 2006. Poorer than modern Krakow of course, but full of life, getting better and richer. A nice place, not one that seemed poor and that elicited feelings of pity. And well ahead of the bleak Soviet times.
I have family in the Right Bank and Kiev also. We used to send them help until around 2018-2019 when they said they for the first time they (and their community) didn’t feel poor. They started travelling to modest resorts in Turkey and Egypt, or Hungary. So there was certainly improvement by 2018, compared to 2010 or 1995. It was not going down.
No Ukrainian city came close to Moscow or Saint Petersburg. However Russian villages (specifically, those that did not contain dachas owned by wealthy Muscovites) I drove past in Moscow oblast on the way to a wealthy dacha community did not appear better than Ukraine. Sure, likely the cars were newer and of better makes, but the buildings were similar if not worse, there was a lot of garbage everywhere, much more than in Ukrainian villages.
And if villages in Moscow oblast are that bad, I can only imagine what they must be like deep in the provinces.
Well, that’s a bit too harsh towards the Donbas. In 1991, they left the USSR with the rest of the country, those types of decisions are typically made in the capital (and such a decision was made in Moscow in fact) with a broad consensus and in that historical moment everyone was leaving the USSR (it was a huge wave that swept all of Eastern Europe). That Donbas left the USSR along with the rest of Ukraine doesn’t mean they should’ve or could’ve joined the newly founded Russian Federation. In fact, wouldn’t that have created a civil war? Since it’s doubtful that Kyiv would’ve been ok with them leaving, plus there are ethnic Ukrainians who always lived there and helped build it.
As to the EU and NATO, the Donbas could not have imagined that Ukraine would develop those aspirations. I also don’t think that the EU offer was presented to them in a good way, to them it was presented together with “Bandera” which is not to their liking. It’s a dilemma because Ukraine has a right to develop as a nation state. Also, can everyone in Donbas be blamed – Russia intervened, and while some of them were screaming “Putin, bring in the troops” – it wasn’t everyone. They were kind of used by the Kremlin to attack Kyiv and then discarded.
As to this formulation of “betrayal” – it’s a bit too accusatory, we are assuming here that Donbas (or anyone) owes something to others, when that’s not even a given. Why would they owe anything to Moscow? They may have cultural ties to Russia, but do they really owe Moscow to join the Russian Federation or fight Kyiv? After all, the rebellion would’ve been quelled if it weren’t for the interference from Russia.
Hindus drink piss,
West has parades dedicated to getting pissed on.
I am neither.
https://twitter.com/YungBhujang/status/1135840818818932737
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Same thing with Juliet’s statue in Verona, Italy. It’s a thing, although I was a bit taken aback by the Indian tourist enthusiastically groping her boob in front of his wife and kids.
“What men would do if they could”
She has a point. Men have been very keen on the female bosom since the species began, and that’s not going to change.
In Victorian times groping a statue would have been boorish and not the act of a gentleman.
Found it.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-268-2/#comment-7030330
You’ve had many insightful takes about lactase over the years.
🤔😉
I’m not blaming America or Trump, but the optics are not good for him just yet. It sure seems that there are people and factions in the US government who are determined to not let it go easily, like this guy:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/congressman-visits-ukraine-frontlines-filmed-firing-heavy-weapon
It looks like some neocons or whatever they are are till trying to drum up popular support through media that is biased towards continued involvement in Ukraine.
I think that peace is not entirely the Ukrainian- or Russian governments decision alone, many are sick of war but there are just as many who would be difficult to convince to lay down their arms after investing so much in war. As I understand Zelensky received threats from hardliners like the Azov militia to stay the course. If the Oblasts are offered to Russia, would the Ukrainian army conveniently leave the parts they still occupy is another question.
My biased belief is that Russia would be likely to take what they claimed and continue the attrition process, calling it de-Nazification. There was also talk of safety barriers, no-man’s-land that would keep Ukrainian artillery further away from Russian assets in the future. If I’m wrong, cool, it’s no skin it’s no skin off my teeth.
When Mikhail mentioned Skidelsky in his comment 30, my first thought was “is he still alive?”, because from being a frequently quoted media figure, I’ve not heard from him for a decade or more.
Wiki might provide some answers:
It looks as if Skidelsky has suffered the fate of AJP Taylor, whose revisionist 1960s “Origins Of The Second World War” saw him sacked from Oxford, despite being such a popular lecturer “that he had to give his lectures at 8:30 a.m. to avoid the room becoming over-crowded.”
Someone here was calling Russia “genocidal” – what a heap of crap. Russia has tried (and generally succeeded) to minimise civilian casualties.
Genocidal is the OUN in Galicia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Note that last. Stalin would have approved the method if not the aim. I must say I wouldn’t fancy being a Russian prisoner of a Ukrainian unit with Mr Hack or LatW in charge.
(This is a reply to Mikhail 30)
See my comment above
Ah my corrector is playing games on me, it was supposed to be “not with”.
I think many people including the Chinese themselves underestimate the potential demand for solar modules at such affordable prices.
Both internal and for the export market, new applications just keep appearing.
For example powering AI data centers, covering fish farms, cooling the water (upping productivity), using them to prevent desertification as a green belt perimeter, over abandoned mines, desalination etc.
Well, it’s never good to sit between two chairs. However, LatW is right in her comment above that in 1991 nobody (that is excluding Zinoviev) could have ever imagined that NATO would expand and that Ukraine would be offered negotiations on eventually joining the EU. There was no EU, just EC and it were the Европа наш общий дом times. We really (stupidly) believed in detente and convergence. We thought that as Soviet army leaves Eastern Europe, the US army would leave Western Europe. As Warsaw Pact is disbanded, so also NATO would.
Hindsight is 20/20, but back then we were very naive. I started to wise up in 1993, when all the “democratic West” applauded the massacre of the RF Parliament and offered an unconditional support to Yeltsin the butcher. It was even more enlightening when Islamist Chechen terrorists were described as “freedom fighters” in the Western MSM. And of course there was also the anti-Serbian intervention and bombing of civilian targets (including the Chinese Embassy) in support of the Albanian terrorists / mafias in Kosovo. It was nasty and one had to admit that the West is not «белый и пушистый» that it has its own jungian shadow.
Then, when Putin came to power, he actually offered to join NATO, despite its destructive role in Yugoslavia, allowing NATO to use that logistics base in Ulyanovsk, not opposing US to use that military airport in Kyrgyzstan and starting to buy Western weapons. But it all changed as NATO demonstrated that it was now expanding to encircle RF and after the color revolutions, Arab Spring and Libyan intervention. It was clear that NATO was not interested in being an inclusive security alliance and that for whatever reasons, RF was not welcomed into NATO,
I often think about it, why was NATO kept active after the Cold War ended and why didn’t they outright offer RF to join? There are two possible reasons; 1) Neocons have been formatted to oppose Russia and some of them have also ancestral scores to settle with Russians, 2) RF is too big and would be too important in NATO influencing the decision making process. That’s the reasonable answers, but there is an additional one that is more complotiste: NATO needs a serious enemy to oppose for justifying its continued existence. RF is the logical scarecrow for most of Europe.
Medvedev has during his presidency offered a new “global security structure” that would basically balance the whole Northern Hemisphere, uniting RF, NATO, China. They laughed at him. Then they used his agreement to a non-flight zone over Libya to kill Gaddafi, leading the country to a decades long civil war. Now Medvedev is a heavy drinking man that is talking about nuking the West. That was the guy who aimed at opening Skoltech near Moscow and heavily invested in a special zone around Skolkovo to welcome Western hi tech companies. А что случилось?
We know what happened; Maidan. Москаляку на гиляку etc. The Neocons/Atlanticists did their job. Vicky Nuland’s cookies left a bitter aftertaste. And here we are hating on and killing each other. They played all of us like a fiddle, pitching us against each other and they will end up owning the confiscated Russian monies, the Ukrainian mineral wealth, the best agricultural black earth land and all the pipelines including the Nordstream that they blew up. And we will own our wounded and dead and will stay full of resentment for generations. Isn’t it a fair deal?
Truth is, when one eats with the devil, one should use a very long spoon to stay at a safe distance, otherwise one will end up on the menu…
I was reacting to another commentator about the idea of US soldiers in Ukraine possibly being attacked by disillusioned Ukrainians. There are probably technical staff and advisors, so nothing unusual compared to other proxy wars. I would think that volunteers and mercenaries from abroad would potentially be more trouble.
I tend to agree with the opinion that Zelensky is more of a figurative leader and a facilitator for foreign military aid, and that others around him are making the practical decisions. I would see it as normal that most Ukrainians support the war and their government, and I do empathise with them to some degree. I am biased towards the Russians though.
I see Ukraine as being caught in a fight between empires, and that there will be no peace as long as they are willing to fight. The western empire will likely continue to try to use this to their advantage in their struggle with the eastern empire. The most likely way that the cycle could be broken I believe is if Russia finishes the war. Judging by what happened in the past a ceasefire will be a pause to rearm Ukraine. I say this because that is my neutral opinion too, I have nothing against Ukraine despite being biased. It is right to be appalled by the war, but there is not one thing we could do to change what is happening.
I was sharing a video by Daniel Davis in which McGregor was saying things pertinent to the subject of Trump’s possible influencers. McGregor can be useful sometimes but I don’t follow his work specifically. I also don’t follow Russian or Ukrainian media, I do follow Western alternative media that I have come to trust over time. Davis I consider to be more neutral, but I compare him to MSM, and pro-Russian commentators and sources like Martyanov and Southfront. I prefer a variety of influences.
The Grand Chessboard, Zbigniew Brzezinski, 1999.
Management Summary –
US is the global hegemon
We want to keep it that way
Russia must never have global power as the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact did
To achieve this, we must detach from Russia, in descending order of importance
Ukraine
Georgia
Azerbaijan
As far as Trump’s border wall, whatever happened to having Mexico pay for it? Mexico better comply with Trump’s wishes, for he might decide to anschluss it along with Greenland and Panama:
Very prescient thinking on behalf of Brzezinski.

You can find a limited number of people grandstanding for attention. A Senator travelled to El Salvador to have margaritas with a wife beating criminal (1). Such stunts do not work.
People do not like being on the losing side. The failure of the Kursk offensive brought home the fact that there is no path to victory for Kiev aggression. Forever Wars are costly and unproductive. Thus, they are very hard to sell.
The Continuing Resolution contained ZERO for Kiev aggression. Reports are that neither the House nor the Senate version of the Budget bill have obvious funding for the Ukrainian military. Everyone hates the opaque nature of the legislative process. Fortunately, there is little chance that a large number will suddenly appear out of nowhere.
While the initial stance is “all” of 4 oblasts, one asks for more than one can get when beginning negotiations. The most likely outcome is the current contact line, which is “parts” of 4 oblasts.
This end state renders your concern less critical. It seems unlikely that Ukrainian troops would broadly refuse orders to pull back for DMZ creation. Russian troops would also be doing the same thing on their side.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/04/18/trump-van-hollen-looked-like-a-fool-yesterday-in-el-salvador/
You may file this one under your favorite tag: Russia [isn’t] is winning the war:
It looks like Nork and Chink auxiliary forces aren’t much help? Russian forces are surrendering in mass.
Time to give you and Trump the hook:
https://www.unz.com/article/how-maga-communism-will-make-america-great-again-by-crashing-the-economy/

Am not sure that the Arabs tried breeding it again with an alpaca. (maybe I ought to email them. Lol) But the cama kind of seems like a dead end. Possibly, hard to make (not sure how many attempts) and infertile. Suppose they might make good guardian animals.
It would be kind of a cool scifi story, if the Inca, before contact somehow got their hands on one male camel, (Would make a better pack animal.). And tried to propagate it.
it could be that there is a certain immunogenic value in incorporating new animals into service as pets. (Is there a right size, where one wouldn’t have to mow the lawn?) It is funny how cute many of these large herbivores look when they are small. ( Is that the pastoralist in me?)
https://twitter.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1914003115142991979
https://twitter.com/ShouldHaveAnima/status/1913593431710159098
Whites and specifically Afrikaners are being discriminated against and marginalized by the South African government. They have negotiated in bad faith and implemented landgrab legislation, are interfering with language rights in schools, are ruining business with quota systems, and have introduced race-based laws through the years that now rival the amount of racial laws under Apartheid.
They are also aligning against US interests while relying on Western and especially US help and charity. BRICS is fine by me but we are only making a profit on trade with the West. Add to that the ICC case against Israel, which is pissing off the US. Lots of people would support SA in that, but it may not be wise to criticize your sponsors when you eat on someone else’s dime. We have about thirty million people, about half the population of SA living off government welfare stipends. If the economy tanks they will burn everything they can get their hands on when they don’t get their money. Tariffs have been suspended to 10%, but there is doubt that the government is taking the situation serious enough to avoid their escalation.
Enter the Trump government, they have cancelled a lot of the sweetheart trade deals, and are sanctioning ANC government officials and party members. Opposition party members are invited to Washington while the ANC government gets the cold shoulder. There is talk of treason charges against Afrikaner rights organizations who talked to the US government as well. Whites who are competing with blacks for scarce jobs and business opportunities are to some extent made more visible in a bad way, the ANC makes them into scapegoats. Trump uses Afrikaner and minority rights as justification for punishing the ANC government on social media. Afrikaners have been offered possible refugee status, but the process is slow and nothing concrete has been done yet.
We’ll see where this goes, but political and racial tensions are getting worse.
Seems like something new driven by male migrants. I can’t help but see heavy symbolism in it – if this is a statue, think what they try to do to the women of the country and the country itself.
I swear, it is like all the songs of Ireland are being violated now.
https://twitter.com/TezTruth81/status/1902416078040674785
If you are going to go the John Johnson route you squander the goodwill your side may be entitled to, and you also undermine your own arguments by using low effort low quality clickbait media. You also open the door for others to use bad media to troll you back with.
In Italy it’s apparently meant to bring good fortune in love.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/mar/07/unlucky-in-love-statue-of-shakespeares-juliet-in-verona-damaged-by-tourists
I am old enough to remember the days when Englishwomen in Rome pretty much expected to get their bottoms pinched. Some were disappointed if it didn’t happen.
https://www.fodors.com/community/europe/how-to-avoid-getting-ones-bottom-pinched-in-europe-121810/
Do you see how insanely unpopular the Ukraine war is among US right wing? Most people think Biden conspired with Zelenskyy to steal a large chunk of their money.
The Chinese will not be drawn into this war, it serves only the interests of those who want escalation. Who believe only escalation can save a Western Ukraine, the Chinese will simply wait for the Trump administration or his ideological successors to bore of it, and walk away.
Most Americans are sick of paying for foreign military interventions, the Chinese have no intention of replacing them.
Fundamentally Ukraine’s so-called backers will be exhausted one by one. Ukrainians will end up feeling incredibly bitter toward countries who have used her as proxy for attritioning Russia only to eventually give up on her, after promising eternal solidarity.
Withdrawl from Ukraine is far easier than pulling out of Afghanistan given that the US had built up a massive ground presence plus infrastructure in Afghanistan over 20 years while this is not the case in Ukraine, by choice.
They don’t want fight the Chinese/Asiatics in the Donbas but the East China Sea, Zelenskyy is powerless to change their minds. No matter how much they shout Asiatic.
It’s “en masse”.
What I can’t understand is how at every prisoner swap, Ukraine get more men back than Russia do.
The only explanations aren’t terribly flattering to Ukraine either way. Are they surrendering more, or are they killing Russian prisoners?
Be my guest. Do you really believe that the Russian side has not experienced some serious setbacks in Pokrovsk?
Lots of luck and blah, blah, blah. 🙂
It’s Ukraine gets more men back than Russia does.
Sadly, Mr. Hack has a psychiatric disorder.
On medical compassion grounds, I publicly placed him on my “Commenters to Ignore” list ~2 years ago. I do not see his posts. If he is trying to troll me it cannot possibly work, so the attempts are additional proof of irrationality.
PEACE 😇
That’s what Maidan was all about – Ukies enthusiastically sold their country to satisfy their Western yearnings. Trump is now coming to collect. What did you think, all that money and easy visas and they wouldn’t have to pay?
So banning the Russian language and killing a few thousand Donbas Russians was for “freedom”? To have more freedom you first have less? You are one confused puppy…:)
I agree, we should. But some of my friends wanted to be ambassadors and ministers – when you split, you double the positions. Personal benefit over common good – a small version of Ukraine…:)
Easy there…have you ever heard the Magyar language? It can’t work, too far apart and not enough consonants.
EU yes. NATO is an expensive and often evil organization – they killed hundreds of thousands from Serbia to Iraq, Libya, etc…and they are itching to kill more. Eventually they will collapse or transform. I would leave and be like Austria.
The odds were never good in this case – worst odds since Germans (also w Ukies) and Napoleon tried it last time. Nobody was “dictating”, Russia asked to be treated like any other regional power – US would not allow Chinese bases in Quebec and banning French language in Belgium would result in a war. Russia is no different, you just like to call them ‘Asiats” and then say that “Asiats have no rights”….
And Germans, Swedes, Danes – all came to your country and killed more people, enslaved you and wanted you to disappear (like the Prussians). Now you worship them.
They are. If anything the real victims are the Donbas Russian speakers. You seem to hate them with passion. Now they are defeating you with the help of Russia. It was predictable.
These videos are propaganda intended to get more Slavs to kill themselves.
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Mr. Hack, would you take the following deal? This seems like a mid-level deal which Russia might be able to accept. Always keep in mind this is a war by the West against Russia using Ukraine as a pawn.
– Crimea and the 4 regions now part of Russia, permanently.
– All parties sign treaty for no Ukraine in NATO ever.
– Ukraine in EU not allowed for 20 years.
– AFU substantially demilitarized into a border patrol and US-style national guard.
– Ukrainian Neonazis known to be violent criminals arrested.
– West removes Aegis missile sites from Romania and Poland.
– NATO removes longer range missiles from countries bordering Russia.
– Russian land bridge to Trans-Nistria guaranteed by treaty.
– West returns Russian frozen or stolen assets with mutual agreement that Russia will gradually help rebuild Ukraine.
– War crimes trials to expose Western meddling in Ukraine and Russia.
– Non-NATO peacekeeping force in Ukraine (CIS-BRICS).
– West agrees to not meddle in former Soviet countries.
– Economic details to be worked out, starting with no foreign NGOs in Ukraine or Russia or CIS countries.
– All reparations claims against Russia or foreign claims on Ukrainian or Russian assets which are directly related to this conflict (since 2014) are revoked.
– Long list of Ukrainian power brokers banned from any future role in the government.
– New international nuclear and biological warfare treaty framework to be discussed.
How long will this “Lots of luck and blah, blah, blah” go on for, how long? Who will pay the blood price?
It needs to end. ☹️
Suit yourself.
As I understand both sides suffer losses and take gains. I believe that ultimately circumstances favour the RF more, it’s simple. War porn and bitterness won’t change a thing.
Don’t forget about Belarus, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Armenia and ultimately North Korea.
The good news is that I’m sure all the USAID folks and similar nightcrawlers working these countries have repented from their evil ways and are now looking for respectable service jobs in the USA./sarc
did you ever read Harry A. Franck’s book about being a zone policeman? Why do you want to cut that career track off for other USians with wanderlust?
There is a lot of demand for solar panels, but at some point fairly soon this may be paced by the cost of battery storage capacity. AI servers probably run full power 24/7 (running slightly less expensive but longer-term tasks over night). Even in good locations the total solar electric production is on the order of 2500 full power hours per year, so the number of panels needed for 24/7 loads is actually at least 3X the rating. This makes your original point since it really takes about four 1 gigawatt solar farms to notionally replace a single 1 GW nuclear power plant. However, it also takes at least 16 hours of battery storage. In many climates this arrangement would be vulnerable to partial outages of roughly a day, so 5X rating and > 24 hours of storage is needed. The price and technical trends all suggest this will happen so even quasi-baseload solar will be possible in many places. I say quasi-baseload since life is radically impacted if there is a three day overcast period!
This gets to one of my long standing predictions that the value of peak solar electricity without storage will asymptotically drop to zero, in other words become too cheap to meter. The value of solar with with storage will go down and will eventually be paced by land and transmission costs. However, the value and price of true baseload generation will go up a lot, possibly to whatever the going rate for nuclear plants happens to be.
I wonder if in maybe 50 years as nuclear breeder reactors become common and the price for nuclear energy drops, much of the wind and solar generation capacity will gradually be abandoned?
Why would anybody want to encourage any sort of zone policing by some crackpot with wanderlust? Isn’t one Putler enough for the world? Look at how Putler’s been behind the division and screwed up state of the world today.
If I’m not getting through to you, why do you still respond to my comments? Everybody here realizes that you’re a lying, glue sniffing troll, and that you’ve read every one of my comments over the last two years. 🙁
It does need to end. The quickest way would be for the Russian military to return to their side of the border and quit meddling in its neighbors internal affairs.
Most of Rubio’s comments which people may interpret as being against the Ukrainian leadership can also be applied to the Russian leadership. Unless the White House admits this is a USA/NATO-created proxy war against Russia they will inevitably come back to fighting Russia. Since this disastrous Ukraine project has made Russia stronger militarily and more independent economically the forces that created the problem will inevitably double down. It is also difficult for Russia to revoke ties with Iran if they know Moscow is still centered in the Neocon cross-hairs.
From my list of Trump military faux pas I mistakenly left off the major Trump-era missile strikes at Syria. The 2017 strike with 59 Tomahawks was mostly defeated by Russian countermeasures IIRC. The excuse for the strike was some sort of retribution against Assad for use of illicit weapons which everyone knows probably did not happen. So that strike seems like a threat against Russia as much as anything. Not a good way to deescalate the Ukraine crisis.
They are surrendering more. They are getting killed more. Don’t tell anybody but with the entire new world order supporting them and supplying them satellite intel they are fighting on the losing side.
(The new world order finance guys aren’t losing anything.)
For some personal interest in Vatican intricacies. Did last Italian Pope John Paul I died of natural causes or from being sacrificed for making timely room for John Paul II to galvanize the movement to defeat communism in Europe? BTW, isn’t time now for electing Italian Pope after unprecedented three non Italian Popes?
ukraine schmukraine
The Pentagon firings were for opposing Israel’s agenda.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14633973/Pete-Hegseth-advisor-Tucker-Carlson-reason-escorted-Pentagon.html
Why do keep insisting that the White House must lie about the IslamoGloboHomo Europe-created proxy war? You must know this absurdity is a 100% non-starter.
You need to set reasonable objectives that are obtainable. Obsessing about the ABM treaty withdrawal 23 years ago is distracting you from the critical questions.
Disengaging from Europe’s Folly will regain American prestige and national honor. This is the first step towards inevitable detente and an end to hostility between Christian Russia and Christian America.
PEACE 😇
This kind of stuff is way higher than my payscale. I’ll let the likes of you haggle over the details with Ukrainian diplomats. 🙂
Although I will say this, that a “deal” where the Russian side gets everything and the Ukrainian side gets nothing, seems rather unfair and one sided. Ukraine has done an outstanding job of minimizing further Russian encroachments over the last two years and would never agree to all of your demands.
DAYUM THATS A BIG BOOM
Ukraine is supposedly using German wooden drones behind the lines.
“I think they’re gonna have this wrapped up by summer”
– Larry C Johnson last year on how it should be the last year of the war
Christian Russia and America cooperating:
I am primarily being contrarian for the fun of it, but…
Why are you so deadset against the idea of a ten-mile-wide canal zone, in what was once virgin jungle? And which was not built by the locals, but temporary workers from the Caribbean? In a country given its independence for the concession. Do you know your favorite president Reagan wrote letters denouncing Carter’s giveaway?
The US was a good steward at controlling the terrible tropical diseases endemic to that country. And it produced much economic activity there.
And exactly what French values were you promoting in your comment to Bashibuzuk? The value to lock up the leading presidential candidate? To replace entire villages with racial aliens? Somehow, I don’t see you chosing to retire to a banlieue filled with Algerians and Africans, or volunteering for a military mission in the Sahel, for all you admire Macron. (But feel free to prove me wrong!)
They have segregated banlieues for Algerians and Africans. To be more precise, Algerians and Negroes as Algeria is in Africa if you want to get technical. : )
Poor Napoleon must look down on it all now and weep.
This anti-Russia project in Ukraine is just a continuation of the Cold War after the West gained a clear upper hand. It is mostly separate from your weird IslamoSoros narrative. One significant connection within the puzzle might be Gulf War I which at a minimum happened as a result of the post-Soviet power vacuum and at maximum might have been intended to weaken the Russians as they attempted to fill that vacuum. Obviously the whole thing is more influenced by Israeli/Jewish/Neocon power than Islam, but they all have some sort of weird shared theocratic common ground. Ideal frenemies I suppose. (((IslamoSoros))) may be the perfect embodiment of this bond. Donmeh, converso, whatever, there is nothing new here.
The pawn usually gets tossed aside.
The scenario I mentioned is a slight, but definite victory for Russia and neutral to slight win for the West (which is why it might be a possible treaty). The Neocons achieved some of their goals by killing a bunch of Slavs and sowing a lot of chaos, generating huge costs for Russia and creating a festering, bleeding sore from a painful itch. Bringing Finland into NATO is a big win for that side.
Russia may win by reshoring production and having partial revival of their conventional military. I suspect the Noviops have been weakened by the Nationalistic aspects of this defensive battle against the West and this may influence whatever settlement actually comes to pass.
So far Ukraine is much less destroyed by this proxy war than I expected. I think they should take any deal, no matter how bad it seems. After twenty years it will not matter anyway.
Mr Hack doesn’t know much about nowadays France.
He probably thinks it’s like this:
When in fact it’s like that:
If the Columbians refuse to “give back” the canal, how would Trump and his America respond? To talk loudly and carry a big stick is not how the old saying goes….
According to the Daily Mail John Paul I was murdered for not cooperating in some bankers’ shenanigans. If you have time you can calibrate the Daily Mail accuracy precisely for one data point; the Elvis biography author is interviewed on New Thinking Allowed.
In this Elvis instance they are inaccurate.
I defer to you, a naturalized citizen of France on this topic. Something is keeping you in France, and I’ve never heard you complain about the place before?…
BTW, I have some world traveling friends that were last in Paris 3 -4 years ago. They told me that it’s a real cesspool. They wont be returning anytime soon.
I meant the “Panamanians” above not “Columbians”. I’m running on only one cuppa joe this morning, am getting ready to visit my new doctor. 🙂
Your obviously incorrect narratives are ludicrous. Why do you try to peddle such bogus gibberish? You must know that your extremist cult has run out of traction.
There are a huge number of Palestinian Jews who trace their lineage back to Russia. The Yisrael Beiteinu party was originally formed by & for Russian Jews, though it has broadened somewhat since then. Many still have family there. Business ties between Russia and Israel are extensive.
Please remember that Führer Zelensky, travelled to Jerusalem to deliberately insult Palestinian Jews. (1)
Why do you insist on giving European Islamophiles a free pass?
• Not-a-Jew Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel
• Not-a-Jew Scholz
• Not-a-Jew BoJo
• Not-a-Jew Merz
• Not-a-Jew Macron
• Not-a-Jew Starmer
The last three are the most critical as these antisemitic Islamophile Globalists are still in office. They are the ones funneling money & war material to Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/
I never criticize the place where I live, I am a law abiding, tax paying citizen.
But a fact’s a fact, the West has changed irremediably in the last generation.
Is it still Western?
I’m not so sure.
What is keeping me in the West are my kids and my projects.
The kids are nearly all grown ups and the projects hopefully will be finalized in the next few years, then I will move to some more remote and peaceful place.
And yeah, I have raised my kids race-realists. They live in a multicultural and multiracial environment and they know what to expect from it. They know how to be friendly with everyone without being duped, bullied or raped (very important when you have daughters). I have also raised them politically and religiously realistic, they know what to expect from the system (nothing good) and where to look for Enlightenment (neither in the school nor in the official churches).
I am reassured knowing that they will not get killed for some illusory ideology or some pseudonational simulacrum, they will not prostrate in front of some human made idol and in general will think for themselves. Their country is theirs, they’ve been born and raised there, their mom’s a local with roots going back hundreds of years, they know their ancestry and can be proud of it.
This country is not mine.
That’s a really bad take because I’m obviously doing the opposite here.
When Poroshenko, Putin and Netanyahu tell me that they have no choice but to order the killing of thousands of innocent people, that they are doing all they can to minimize their number and that the only culprits of the deaths that they order to carry out are their enemies (how amazingly similar their excuses are), what I do is laugh at the idiocy of their statements, not take them at face value.
Leaving aside your support for ideas like a new Holy Crusade, you not only defend the killing of innocent civilians, you go beyond the people who ordered them and support actions that they themselves were too ashamed to confess they were behind (eg Lugansk). If I asked for a volunteer to be my enemy in the hope that one day humanity will transcend horrors like Sumy or Lugansk, I could hardly expect to find a better fit than you.
I’m not really saying that intent doesn’t matter. If all these bastards didn’t have the intent to kill civilians as needed to achieve their political goals, there would be nothing to debate here. What I’m saying is that I’m not interested in what precise justifications each of them uses for the same behavior: cause incalculable damage to innocent people. To me that’s as pointless as comparing Timothy Veigh’s morality to the Unabomber’s. Big f-ing deal.
“Agreeing to disagree” is a misleading expression. When you think that someone is dead wrong you may decide that continuing to argue is useless or you may acknowledge that some people’s judgement is just very bad but you’re not really agreeing on anything with that person.
Fortunately though, we have entered a new era where AI can immediately collect much more information that any of us can in thousands of hours of research and present its conclusions in an impeccably logical way. I asked Grok, arguably the least political biased AI system, the following question:
in the 2014 air attack against the lugansk administration building that killed 8 people, were adequate weapons used to kill some specific person inside the building?
Here is the devastating answer, that puts the matter to rest unequivocally in my favor:
I heard a BBC interview with a former US general in Europe who thinks Ukraine is winning!
Most people in the UK get their news from the BBC, Guardian, Times or Daily Mail, and their “experts” come from RUSI, Foreign Policy, ISW etc.
Now of course they’ll have a ready built scapegoat for Ukraine’s defeat. Trump was a Russian agent all along!
What Grok is describing here looks like an attack with an intent to terrorize the target population. Supposedly, the pilot, who was responsible for this attack, later committed suicide. Some say he was liquidated to avoid those who ordered the attack from being identified and (hopefully) prosecuted for war crimes.
Either a pure terrorist attack, to send a message to the disloyal civilian collaborators in the regional administration who had stopped obeying Kiev and sided with the separatists, or just a symbolic gesture of force using a warplane, which the separatists lacked at the time. A war crime in any case.
Any other interpretation of that attack looks like a post-hoc conjecture to try to whitewash the crime. The evidence that there was a “meeting” of rebels leaders in the building is very flimsy (Grok cannot find any but apparently there is some old news clip from an obscure paper where Bolutov claimed to be in the building) and there’s even less evidence that, if that was the case, Kiev knew it. In any case, as Grok explains in full detail, there was no hope of targeting any person with such a wanton attack, which is what we were discussing.
Regarding your reference (1), the mainstream Holocaust narrative has been shown here at Unz to be wildly distorted so any tension between the Knesset and Zelensky related to that topic is irrelevant.
I recognize that a great many Russians and ex-USSR folks migrated to Israel and have influence there. Of course Israel through aligned parts of Russian and world Jewry has influence in Russia. I would like to know more about this connection. I appreciate it when Dmitry fills in a few blanks as he often does.
Exactly. The bizarre Euro war-dances are to avoid responsibility for what’s coming. They didn’t think it through – or have no better options. If Trump is an “agent” the West has bigger problems than who runs the muni in Luhansk and the Ukies become irrelevant.
With the James-Bond superb secret services and years of trying they couldn’t pin him down? Naaah…that’s worse than losing a war, it would be like losing the system, the ridicule would be too much. No, they will come back, blame Porky, Zelko and the vishivankies. It’s always like that.
Another confirmation that we are gearing towards Westerstroika:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1914372377112179056
Just like the perestroika, all the dirt is starting to come out.
Interesting times…
Did you tell them not to do drug deals with negroes? I thought it was pretty hilarious when my old man told me that.
LOL — You accused Israel of being in cahoots with Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews.
Regardless of the reason, the fact that there is an open split between Palestinian Jews and Zelensky blows your wacky fringe cult theory out of the water.
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Everyone sees that you have repeatedly skipped the key question. Would you please stop being evasive and answer it directly?
Why do you insist on giving European Islamophile leaders a free pass?
Especially the current funders of Führer Zelensky — Not-a-Jew Merz, Not-a-Jew Macron, and Not-a-Jew Starmer?
PEACE 😇
Here is the latest from CTH: (1)
I do not agree 100%, but it is fairly solid.
The deep state and Waltz are being cut out of the loop.
What is the old military saying? — If you are catching a lot of flak, you know you are over the target — IslamoGloboHomo is clearly panicking over Hegseth and they are throwing everything they can at him. Accusations from discredited, fired leakers is wholly unconvincing.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/22/update-russia-v-ukraine-delegations-expected-to-meet-in-london-tomorrow-then-witkoff-heads-to-moscow/
Sorry, but this is pure demagoguery – you know darn well that this is not how it works. The way it works is that the country in question gets REAL security guarantees from the hegemon country or the larger country (or groups of countries), only then the stronger country gets preferences or access to resources. And even then, it is not all resources the way that the US wanted, that is crazy.
In Ukraine’s case this would be a real NATO membership (a real one, meaning with real assets placed in Ukraine, the existing ones plus possibly more – after this war nobody is going to trust empty promises or even signatures), or a bilateral security agreement, the type that Israel and Japan have with the US. ONLY THEN can you have that arrangement that other NATO states have and even in that case, Ukraine would still have a lot of control over its own resources. Everyone will be competing in the private market. Plus technology exchange, etc.
If this were the proposal, then it would be attractive to Ukraine. And a somewhat fair arrangement as long as Ukraine was able to build up its national capital (which they can).
Trump (or Hegseth or Vance) explicitly said this was a no go for the US. They want everything for nothing.
But to get back to your original point that Trump is being “sober” and “realistic” by offering up other people’s land to Putin (although it’s not really clear what the actual “proposal” is) – this is not true either, because Trump has no real leverage over Putin. He could have leverage if he wanted (cut the oil prices drastically, finally put an end to RF’s shadow fleet, continue giving Ukraine weapons), but he doesn’t want to go against Russia (while he simultaneously keeps the sanctions in place, most sanctions are European anyway) – so he has no leverage. I’m not saying Trump is not trying, but he doesn’t see very basic things of how this is supposed to work. And I don’t even blame him because it’s a very tough situation, I only blame those who try to decide for Ukraine over Ukraine’s head. It won’t work. We won’t budge.
Nobody was banning the Russian language. A lot of them still speak it, there is media, the Freedom UA Channel is the one in Russian. And many others.
I know, that’s really funny. 🙂 Personally, I love the one where a guy registers a party just to have his own party. 🙂 It’s hilarious. Writing the party program, the logos, the branding. LOL The small but passionate demos. 🙂
Oh yea it’s funny. It does sound a bit Finnic. Well, for the sake of diversity and minority rights which you seem to care about so much, you should be made to listen to the Magyar language every day and have signs in Magyar as the second language in all the stores.
I never said that, many Asians are more advanced than Whites and they don’t have the crazy belligerence of Whites. No, I do not confuse Russians with Asians – I said the Moscovites (the Russian imperialists) use Asian minorities or sometimes larger peoples (such as Tatars) to fight Europeans. This is well documented. Right now they are using colonized Asian peoples against Ukrainians – this is insane and evil.
Re: rights – if Russians hate the EU so much, call them “fags” (sorry but they use even worse expressions) – then why should they have these rights? Hypothetically, there is the UN charter and the European Council but those are dead organizations, and Russia doesn’t follow international law herself. Why should then others observe international law for them?
“Worship” is a bit of an overstatement. Of course, the Prussians and other Baltic tribes should’ve been left alone, no doubt about that and they fought extremely heroically, given who their opponent was. They should’ve built better fortifications and consolidated the tribes faster, there was also the plague. As to the Germans, if they wanted the Balts to disappear, why did they print the Bible in our language and did the folklore studies? They could’ve done like the Russian tsar who simply forbid to publish anything in our languages. The Germans did the opposite in fact.
No, an invader and the victim of an invasion are not the same. I see the method now on the pro-Russian camp is to blur these lines and to spread moral relativism. But this is too obvious of a crime for the truth to be obfuscated.
I agree that many of them are victims, but not the ones who were screaming “Putin, bring in the troops!”, they should’ve known what they were asking for. They have a horrible and some of them an unjust fate. And, no, I do not hate the Donbas people, I hate those who interfered from the Moscow side.
To demonstrate the historical importance of Panama to America, ranked among the other Latin American countries: the word “spic” actually comes from Panama, where it was jocularly applied in its original form “Spigoty” or “Spig” by the Americans to the natives, based on their common falsely proclaimed assertion that they could “speaga dee Eng-leesh.” (Although some sources claim it was a disavowal that they could speak it.)
Anyway – what a political transformation when we all hear “press one for Spanish” and Spanish on the intercoms in Home Depot!
But I don’t really mind that so much – but one thing leads to another, and now a lot of medical places on the phone ask for your pronouns and whether you are a tranny. These people and their enablers should be sent to tranny island.
Oh, is that a real question? I thought it was some sort of inside joke.
European leaders are completely insane. The puppet masters of Europe have been bringing unassimilable immigrants, both pagan and Islamic, into Europe for decades to wreck the entire culture of the region and perhaps the world. They are doing the same in the USA. This process is blatantly and intentionally destructive and hateful. I don’t really know who is behind it but the most obvious signs point to Jewish influence, through there are other possibilities. Since Jewish oligarchs around the world control so much of everything it is difficult to imagine any left over maneuvering room for another other group to wield such destructive power and with such chutzpah. Isn’t there a widely respected book about some knowledgeable elders who had just such a plan? There are a few other outside possibilities to explain the migration, maybe actual witches or perhaps some really bored aliens, I don’t know.
The volunteers on the Ukrainian side are brothers and sisters in arms, they are accepted almost as one’s own. They would not be attacked.
Well, it is up to you but you might want to think about how many people Putin’s regime have managed to kill so far over these decades – it may be adding up to a million possibly (if you count Chechnia, Syria, and now Ukraine, and their own troops). There is also something very problematic about a very old dude who wants to impose his will on much younger people in a foreign country (even if he doesn’t consider that country foreign and has a sense of entitlement that he should be deciding the fate of those people – by killing them).
Ukraine has full rights to be armed and to defend itself. If you object to Europe giving them assistance, then you should support Ukraine getting its own deterrent and definitely developing a long range missile program (which they’re in process of doing). But this is not the position of most pro-Russians who parrot putin about Ukraine having to disarm. This is a no go and dishonest, hypocritical. Russia should disarm, too, in that case.
And, btw, Europe does have the right to help arm Ukraine because the ultimatum of December 2021 by Putin was directed at Europe. We reject this ultimatum.
There is no such thing as the Western empire anymore, because of Trump. There could be some kind of a rearrangement now. On the Eastern empire side, they, too, should think about whether it makes sense for them to antagonize Europe by supporting Russia in Ukraine. I don’t think that that’s what they want.
Yes, it is a real question about non-Jewish Islamophiles who have nothing to do with Palestinian Jews or the U.S. To deal with the question in a serious manner you must start grounded in reality. These Islamophile Globalists loathe MAGA, Trump, America, Judaism, and Palestinian Jews.
Let us start with the single, most clear cut case:
Why do you give Islamophile Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel a free pass?
• As an open antisemite she supports The Great Muslim Replacement of German Jews and Christians.
• There is no sane basis to blame Jews for an obviously anti-Jewish agenda that targets Jews.
• Attempting to portray Islamophile Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel as an agent of the U.S. is absurd. Her loathing of America and Trump is well documented.
• She openly admits that she personally was the leader who destroyed the Minsk Agreements. This had nothing to do with Jews or the U.S.
• If you want to call out an oligarch who does not represent 99.99%+ of practitioners of Judaism, feel free. However, do not engage in malicious deception by trying to insert the laughable, obviously inaccurate, & misleading phrase “Jewish oligarch”. One can be a practicing Jew or an oligarch, not both.
PEACE 😇
Wait, you hear “Press one for Spanish”??? Where? English is always one, Spanish – two. Para español, marque el número dos. That’s already too much. Who says Spanish is one over English?
I don’t dislike Spanish, but I hate waiting too long to dial.
LOL. Didn’t the red states ban pronouns or cancel them? They may not have had them to begin with.
There was a pronoun zir which is totally nutty. 🙂 I think very few have heard of this even.
I was doing surveys and filling out forms, and I got so tired of the questions whether I’m straight or gay, that I started pressing “Prefer not to say” – as in, none of your business, like, why do they need to know (which I never used to do before). LOL
I don’t know enough about these Euro leaders to have much of an opinion on any of them. The best I can do is look at patterns. When so many of the Jewish power brokers are involved I don’t think it is intuitive to call them IslamoSoros. Clearly the leaders are willing to sacrifice some of their own, but this has happened before.
I think hearing Spanish widely on the public address systems at Home Depot is less than 15 years away in Southern border states. Aggressive deportation in general and revocation/deportation of a significant number of birthright citizens might stop this, but I doubt it.
On the other hand, maybe in a few years this will be a litmus test. Let’s say Home Depot decides to go with Spanish on the PA. Then Engrish speakers can boycott the place and go to Lowe’s instead. Then ICE can hang out at Home Depot and bag their limit. Or something like that.
The deportation process is eventually self-limiting because a lot of police, border patrol, ICE, National Guard and other squads are Hispanic. I am sure there are many who do not care so much to deport or arrest illegals who are not violent criminals. Probably some of these government people are dreamers and anchor babies.
!Hasta luego, Anglo! What a shame.
There’s definitely been a shift towards pressing one. I can’t say whether it is more common now than two, but I think it might be.
The idea is to not make people press a button for English, which I think most resent. But you still need to listen to it – for a lot of interactions, which seems like an injustice.
But it is more a quibble compared to these other things.
My number one hatred is being asked pronouns, etc. I genuinely want to see banishments for that.
My number two is legal disclaimers.
Three is disclaimers about opinions not necessarily being shared.
I think all three are probably related to lawyers.
Obviously I would not share your views on Putin or Russia, but I do try to understand your point of view. Who is right or wrong or why this started can be argued about forever. I am interested in how and when it ends though.
I don’t think either side wants to stop fighting. Zelensky already rejected the idea of recognising Crimea as being part of Russia, and Russia calls the full 4 oblasts constitutionally part of the RF, so I don’t think Trump’s peace deal will fly.
It’s still an open question as to what the US is up to I think, things could be clearer after the next round of negotiations. Trump threatened to walk away from the peace deal, but could still double down on supporting Ukraine to try and force a deal on Russia.
I think that the war will go on for some time yet, maybe even years, it’s just how it is, no matter if I approve or not.
Although I agree with your basic sentiments in your reply here, you didn’t answer my question as to:
“If the Panamanians refuse to “give back” the canal, how should Trump and his America [cabinet] respond? To talk loudly and carry a big stick is not how the old saying goes….”
They should only ask you that if you are donating blood, have some weird disease, or are working with children.
I accept your acknowledgement that I am correct.
Your admission that you are ignorant about antisemitic IslamoGloboHomo is appreciated. You have conceded that you do not understand what is driving:
• Not-a-Jew Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel
• Not-a-Jew Scholz
• Not-a-Jew BoJo
• Not-a-Jew Merz
• Not-a-Jew Macron
• Not-a-Jew Starmer
Given that this list of antisemitic Islamophiles is 100% non-Jewish, you should be able to figure it out on your own… Eventually…
PEACE.😇
Amateurs. The Global Empire really knows how to get these things done.
My original response was predicated on what I considered your anticolonialist disavowal of vagabond Harry A. Franck for working as an American zone policeman in Panama, so he could build up a kit for traveling the length of the Andes.
I am not really genuinely interested in annexing Panama or the canal. I don’t feel modern America is guaranteed to run it better, and don’t really see the point, as long as access is guaranteed.
Morally, I think transferring the canal was highly questionable. Carter ran on not handing it over. The zone was transferred to a criminal dictatorship. The movement behind it was probably orchestrated by the Soviets.
But legalistically, Congress approved the treaty. Bush invaded Panama in 1989, so I think the threat definitely hangs over them, should they be so foolish to deny access.
Agreed. There is no way that anything besides the internationally recognized border of Ukraine will ever be recognized by Ukraine and Europe. De iure – never. And this is just and right.
The change in Russia’s constitution is Russia’s own doing, it is completely arbitrary and one sided, and has nothing to do with international law. It’s also very insolent. Imagine if any country just changed their constitution and start grabbing foreign lands? If the US recognizes this, they will lose their status even more and – it will be global chaos because then everyone will feel that it’s ok to do. There will be crises across the globe because there are many such disputed lands and territories out there (and grievances). If Trump was to recognize Crimea as Russian (which was floated the other day), then he would be doing this because the US wants to act in a similarly predatory manner – to invade Greenland and other places. If he makes that step, it will enrage Europe and other actors. I don’t think the US will dare. That would be too much even for the current crazy admin.
Unfortunately, you’re right that the war will go on for a long time, in one form or another. There are irreconcilable differences, even if the Putin regime falls, these will remain. One option could be to arm Ukraine and then freeze the conflict indefinitely. That way both sides would be armed and at a frozen conflict, but there would be no open hostilities, at least for some time. But Russia will only stop when they run out of money entirely and their stocks are depleted.
Are you sure? When was the evil circumcision of Serbia approved by Serbia or what international law approved rape of Libya, Iraq or Palestine? Who was punished for those heinous acts, not to mention innocent Cambodian people slaughtered in millions by carpet bombing. Those perpetrators are freely walking the streets. You are very naive about the borders, they were created by blood from the begging of humanity.
In case of Ukraine we are talking about unsettled borders within one country at the hasty independence drive when Soviets were a wounded dog kicked around. How can Ukraine claimed Crimea when the communist diktat from 1954 assigned administratively Russian Crimea to Ukraine. I think the BRICS population is greater than the former colonial thieves. The decisions are now made by the multi-polar world.
“The winner takes it all” -a beautiful and true song. Ukraine should not listen to sly Boris and would have been in a much better shape now. By refusing deal the Russia will take 3 more oblasts.
Granted. However, even in US Jewish candidate have no chance to be elected. Gore was defeated by Bush Jr. (my goodness), main reason his VP partner was Lieberman. It does not matter who is the leader, the AIPACs in those countries are shadow leaders. I do not mean to be derogatory, but just to diminish your post assertion.
Jesse Michaels has a spectacular get. There is a small probability (>.02) this is the biggest thing on the entire internet this year (April 2024 — April 2025). Malmgren on this video is a dead man walking, or dead man sitting so far. I have only watched the first 30 minutes. This needs a high quality transcript.
Malmgren claims he was in Bissel-Kennedy UFO briefings. Claimed; he is now deceased.
If you have not seen Michaels before he is a Thiel hanger-on. Spook. Don’t believe anything he says. At least some of the material being presented here is likely factual. This is far more interesting than any of that crap being fed to the public by Christopher Mellon, Lue Elizondo, David Grusch, and that division. The Sol Foundation Stanford UFO seminar had nothing to compare with this.
That was very clumsily said on my part. You cynically view all politicians’ statements equally in a very naive way, like a distrustful simpleton who automatically assumes that anything said on the news is false. You are not actually a simpleton, so this approach towards Poroshenko vs. Putin is rather curious.
Because everyone says they are defending themselves when they engage in warfare, you assume that nobody is actually doing so. An unreal assumption.
Poroshenko did not “order the killing of thousands of innocent people.”
He ordered his forces to respond to the killings of Ukrainians by fighters crossing the border into Ukraine from Russia and local proxies, by fighting back in order to stop them. In the process of doing so, civilians were also killed, in the approximate ratio of 1 civilian per 3 violent invaders.
This is not the same as ordering the killings of innocent people.
You asked a misleading question and got a misleading response. Congratulations.
The Ukrainian government tried to kill not some specific individual but a meeting of military leaders led by Bolotov. And the question was, were the weapons used capable of doing so.
Here is what I got from Grok when I asked an appropriate question:
in the 2014 air attack against the lugansk administration building that killed 8 people, were the weapons by Ukraine capable of killing Bolotov and military advisors who according to Bolotov were meeting in the building at the time of the attack
The 2014 air attack on the Luhansk Regional Administration building, which occurred on June 2, killed eight civilians and injured others, as reported by multiple sources. The attack was attributed to the Ukrainian Air Force, with evidence pointing to the use of non-guided rockets fired from an aircraft, likely an Su-25 ground attack fighter, which was equipped with 30-millimeter ordnance. Valery Bolotov, the self-proclaimed “people’s governor” of the Luhansk People’s Republic, claimed that he and military advisors were meeting in the building at the time of the attack, though he survived.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2014/ukraine-140603-vor03.htm)
### Capability of the Weapons Used
The weapons employed in the attack, identified as non-guided rockets and possibly 30mm cannon fire from an Su-25, were capable of causing significant destruction and loss of life. The Su-25 is designed for close air support and ground attack, equipped with unguided rockets (such as S-8 or S-13) and a 30mm autocannon (GSh-30-2), which can deliver high-explosive or armor-piercing rounds. These weapons are effective against personnel, light structures, and unarmored targets, making them capable of killing individuals inside a building like the Luhansk administration headquarters, including Bolotov and any military advisors present.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-unspun-luhansk-blast/25410384.html)
The attack caused significant damage to the building, with reports of multiple craters, shattered windows, and shrapnel injuries, indicating the use of explosive munitions. The pattern of craters suggested strafing, and the OSCE confirmed the strikes were from non-guided rockets, which lack precision but can cause widespread damage due to their explosive yield and fragmentation. Such weapons could have killed Bolotov and others in the building, depending on their location relative to the impact points. The fact that eight civilians were killed, mostly by shrapnel, underscores the lethal potential of these munitions in a populated area.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-unspun-luhansk-blast/25410384.html)%5B%5D(https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2014/ukraine-140603-vor03.htm)
### Contextual Factors
– **Bolotov’s Survival**: Bolotov’s claim that he was in the building during the attack suggests he was either not in the direct impact zone or was shielded from the blast and shrapnel. The administration building was a multi-story structure, and the rockets primarily struck the exterior and adjacent park area, creating a line of craters. If Bolotov and his advisors were in a basement or an interior room, they could have been protected from the worst effects of the unguided rockets.[](https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-unspun-luhansk-blast/25410384.html)
– **Military Advisors**: There is no definitive evidence confirming the presence of military advisors in the building at the time, as Bolotov’s claim is not independently verified in the available sources. However, the building was a known separatist stronghold, making it a plausible target for Ukrainian forces aiming to disrupt rebel leadership. If advisors were present, the weapons used were certainly capable of killing them, as the attack killed eight others and injured many more.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)%5B%5D(https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
– **Ukrainian Intent and Targeting**: The Ukrainian military was conducting airstrikes to support border guard units under attack by separatists, but the administration building was several miles from the border guard base. The reason for targeting the administration building remains unclear, with some speculation it was a mistake or an intentional strike on separatist leadership. Ukraine initially denied responsibility, suggesting a misfired rebel missile, but OSCE and CNN investigations pointed to an airstrike. The use of unguided rockets indicates limited precision, which could explain the civilian casualties and the failure to kill Bolotov if he was indeed present.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)%5B%5D(https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-unspun-luhansk-blast/25410384.html)
### Critical Analysis
The Ukrainian Su-25’s weaponry was undoubtedly capable of killing Bolotov and any military advisors in the building, given the destructive power of its rockets and cannon. However, several factors may have contributed to Bolotov’s survival:
– **Unguided Munitions**: The lack of precision in non-guided rockets meant the attack was less likely to target specific individuals, increasing the chance of survivors in less-affected areas of the building.[](https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2014/ukraine-140603-vor03.htm)
– **Building Layout**: The administration building’s size and structure could have provided cover for those inside, especially if they were not near the points of impact.
– **Bolotov’s Claim**: Bolotov’s statement about being in the building may have been exaggerated or fabricated for propaganda purposes, as separatist leaders often used such claims to rally support. There is no corroborating evidence placing him or specific military advisors there at the exact time of the attack.
### Conclusion
The weapons used by Ukraine in the June 2, 2014, airstrike on the Luhansk administration building—likely non-guided rockets and 30mm cannon fire from an Su-25—were fully capable of killing Valery Bolotov and any military advisors present, as demonstrated by the eight civilian deaths and numerous injuries caused by shrapnel and explosive force. However, Bolotov’s survival suggests he was either not in the direct blast zone, protected by the building’s structure, or possibly not present, as his claim lacks independent verification. The attack’s reliance on unguided munitions and the unclear targeting rationale likely reduced its effectiveness against specific individuals like Bolotov, while still causing significant collateral damage.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-unspun-luhansk-blast/25410384.html)%5B%5D(https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2014/ukraine-140603-vor03.htm)
You don’t even know the man’s name.
Bolotov himself claimed he was in the building meeting with military advisors at the time of the attack. There is no evidence either corroborating or refuting his statement, but why would he falsely claim to have been there, given that his presence provided an excuse for the attack and was an admission that he placed civilian lives at risk by choosing to meet military advisors in that building?
And of course your implication that it just a wild coincidence (what are the odds?) – that Kiev just happened to bomb this specific building at the specific time when Bolotov happened to be there – is quite absurd.
You claim the Poroshenko is the same as Netanyahu or Putin, but those two would have levelled the entire building or maybe even the entire neighbourhood with multiple missiles, rather than send a plane to hit one specific building. The civilian death toll of the Luhansk attack compared to Putin’s or Netanyahu’s attacks reflects these differences.
I asked Grok about the probability of Ukraine hitting a targeted group of people inside the building. You claimed it was close to zero. Grok disagrees, it conclude 20% – 40% chance (I was also wrong when I compared it to a 50/50 coin flip, but you were more wrong):
What were the chances of the attack on the Luhansk building in 2014 that killed 8 people of killing a targeted group inside the building
### Estimating the Chances
Quantifying the exact probability is challenging due to limited specific data on the attack’s execution, the targeted group’s location, and the building’s layout. However, we can make an informed estimate based on the factors above:
– High Lethality in Exposed Areas: If the targeted group was near the building’s exterior, windows, or in an open area (e.g., a room directly facing the park where craters were found), the chances of being killed would be high (50-80%). The rockets’ shrapnel and blast effects were lethal enough to kill eight civilians, mostly outside, suggesting similar risks for anyone in exposed interior areas.
– Moderate Lethality in Interior Rooms: If the group was in an interior room on an upper floor, away from exterior walls, the chances of being killed would drop to moderate (20-50%). Shrapnel could penetrate windows or walls, but the building’s structure would absorb much of the blast, reducing lethality.
– Low Lethality in Sheltered Areas: If the group was in a basement, reinforced room, or deep interior space, the chances of being killed would be low (5-20%). Unguided rockets and 30mm rounds are unlikely to penetrate deep into a concrete structure, and the attack did not cause widespread structural collapse.
– Overall Probability: Given the use of unguided munitions and the building’s size, the overall chance of killing a specific targeted group inside the building, without precise intelligence on their location, is likely low to moderate (20-40%). The attack’s reliance on area-effect weapons and lack of precision targeting would make it difficult to ensure the death of a specific group, especially if they were not near the impact zones
Iirc Starmer is married to a Jew and goes with his Jewish children to synagogue every week, though personally he is an atheist.
Thanks, even if we disagree and we see things from different sides I believe that it would be better for me to clearly see the humanity of all of the people involved and effected. I would still hold to my beliefs and not self-sensor, but the discomfort of seeing the other side would help me appreciate how serious the situation is and to at least try not to make glib judgements.
I think the big plans Westerners like Trump have for others stems from a lack of motivation to understand things outside of their frame of reference. Being born outside of the West helps me to some extent to not make the same mistake.
Very true, but isn’t she a beard? Though that does still make one wonder why he did select to join that community.
BoJo of course is partly Jewish (1/8, I believe). Now, on the one hand, one might say that that isn’t very much, but when you consider assortative mating – adding in the Turk, and the people who were drawn to these crosses – it likely becomes more significant. It is probably not too common for a native Brit to light a menorah, but Bojo has. And I think it also is surprisingly true that many times, we resemble out great grandparents. (How many of his were for the British mandate?)
But it is also true what A123 says that none can compete with Ze.
Simplicius on the peace deal, and some of the usual:
https://open.substack.com/pub/simplicius76/p/sitrep-42225-ukraine-begs-30-of-bundeswehr?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
BoJo is almost the textbook definition of a rootless cosmopolitan. He was born in the States.
Back on topic:
The precedent was set when NATO bombed Serbia until they surrendered Kosovo.
I explicitly acknowledged his wife’s religion in several prior posts including this one: (1)
Not-a-Jew Starmer, as an atheist, is not a practitioner of Judaism.
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(1) https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-272/#comment-7094072
It does seem as though there are relatively few pure Euros in much of Latin America. I wonder if they could have been purged/fled during the independence movements/civil wars.
How different might history be if Polk or Buchanan had annexed Northern Mexico and Baja? On the surface, it seems like it was a collosally bad idea – the population rapidly shot up and would have likely been similar to Puerto Rico, on a much bigger scale.
But there are also a lot of interesting possibilities. Might they have somehow counterbalanced blacks – a Great Migration of Latinos instead of blacks. Northern Mexico is NAFTA geography, the topography doesn’t exist to go further south, it might have been an obstacle to offshoring if it was part of the same regulatory framework.
It may be the influence of AP but I have nearly acclimated myself to being drown in a tidal wave of Mexicans. I worry a lot more about some of the other groups, where I perceive great conceits, deceits, and simmering tensions.
I agree.
Despite his lineage, Zelensky actively rejected the practices of his forefathers. This makes him a post-Judaic apostate. Those who leave a group can become consumed by rage and hate against it.
You can see this in Führer Zelensky’s attachment to the Azov neo-Nazi movement. The fact that those who hate Jews are willing to follow Zelensky demonstrates how far he has gone. He is not merely straying from the path. He is actively burning bridges.
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You have a very good memory in remembering this incident within the book. I can barely remember it, and certainly don’t recall that I ever made an issue of it or decried Franck’s role as an American zone policeman in Panama. Or that I was ever opposed to Franck’s role as some sort of an agent of American colonialism?
Anyways, I remember reading that recently the Chinese were behind some subtle subterfuge within the canal zone, trying to take control of certain canal appendages. I think that this has recently been stopped by the Panamanians?…Were you aware that the Chinese have been trying to curry favor of Costa Ricans for many years now, even building a huge sports stadium in San Jose for the many loyal CR soccer fans? About 10 years ago, there was a lot of hub bub about Chinese plans for building a larger canal within Honduras. Haven’t heard anything more about this in recent years…
https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/156813/honduras-dry-canal-project-oceans-panama
St. George’s Day seems to become more irrelevant every year. The left have obviously hated it for years, but I feel even most self-proclaimed “nationalists” in England are not very interested in it either.
St. Patrick’s Day in particular and even St. Andrew’s Day and Burns night creates far more excitement amongst English people than St. George’s Day does.
I feel that we are in the “post-English” era, even “nationalists” in England no longer identify with England particularly and due to the internet I think young English nationalists now identify as pan-white nationalists rather than specifically English. Actual “English nationalists” are a literally dying breed.
I think Russia needs or at least wants a deal where the risk of NATO/USA/Ukraine restarting the war in a year or two is low. The hypothetical “term sheet” I wrote for Hack is geared to this requirement. I was also trying to answer the question of what concessions from the Ukraine/Western side are needed to establish the minimum circumstances which Russia might think precludes a rapid resumption of hostilities? If the West does not give up something, such as the Eastern European missile bases and some of the stolen funds, then there is no real change in posture. Without something along those lines the status of the West is still completely untrustworthy from the Russian view. As far as territory goes, the Russian military could have likely captured all of Eastern Ukraine by relaxing her constraints on civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction. Many military people may feel they have paid the blood price to claim all of this region East of the river as a buffer zone for the motherland. If this is not largely ceded to Russia they may feel obligated to simply destroy it to establish the buffer.
You mightn’t be wrong, if you supposed Starmer had a Muslim paramour – but that there have been efforts to obfuscate it, including obviously fake video of them kissing.
Thanks — I need to read the article more thoroughly when I have the chance. Based on a quick skim it makes some good points.
I doubt it is explicitly choreographed. However, it is exposing Zelensky as the problem and chief obstacle to peace.
The U.S. explicitly stated that European expeditionary forces are not covered by NATO Article V. One has to doubt that UK and France will go without American support.
A conditional ceasefire is much more likely than an unconditional one. Russia has made it clear that any long term stoppage has to preclude Führer Zelensky from using the pause to rearm and reposition his forces. Keeping out European forces would be included in the conditions.
To me it looks like March is an all time low. Unless there is a surprise, April will also be in the bottom 1/4.
Among Team Biden’s final acts was signing an additional $20B for Kiev aggression. The American system makes it very hard to not spend money after it has been approved. There may be another month or two in the pipeline.
When looking at flights, one should also note that heavy airlift is also used when removing material.
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Depends on whether that’s USAF only, or the various private airlines they use, often flying from Dover AFB.
Recently I noticed flights of a Portuguese (I think) cheapo passenger air charter between Rzeszow and RAF Brize Norton in the UK. I assume it was ferrying troops from or to training in the UK.
There was a USAF P8 doing the Black Sea run this morning, so ISR work continues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence,_surveillance,_target_acquisition,_and_reconnaissance#ISR_(Intelligence,_surveillance_and_reconnaissance)
Before Kosovo, the Russians detached Transnistria with its Slavic majority from Moldova. This set the precedent that was followed by Kosovo, then South Ossetia, then Crimea and Donetsk.
Putin taking and claiming Kherson and Zaporizhia with their Ukrainian ethnic majorities and no significant pro-Russian separatist movements does not follow these precedents. The last leaders in Europe who did things like that were Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
Was actually mostly referring to this book, which by coincidence I just began reading recently.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Policeman_88
Though I think I was probably wrong about the Andes connection. I think that might have been his travel companion, who had to build up his money supply, but I am not 100% sure.
When he was a census worker in Panama, he mentioned how some Panamanians continued to call themselves Columbians. For many years, even after they formally recognized it, Columbians also called it a renegade province.
I am not too far into it, but so far I think it is interesting. It really brings the area and era to life, in a way that David McCullough couldn’t.
They seem to be making pretty significant political inroads around the Strait of Malacca. I think it is inevitable that the diplomatic map will change.
Because of his inputs.
Given that at the time f the attack on this specific building, the rebel military leadership was meeting inside it, the intent of the attack was to decapitate the violent rebellion, that had already claimed Ukrainian lives by the rebels, in its infancy. This would have saved hundreds or thousands of lives at the risk of a handful of civilians (8 of whom tragically were killed in this operation).
If the intent were to terrorize, the number of victims would have been in the dozens or more, as is the case with Russian attacks. They would have attacked the city center with Grads rather then send an airplane to attack that one specific building at the time of Bolotov’s meeting. That’s the sort of thing that Russians do.
If you weren’t so desperate to see both sides as equal because despite your best efforts you are more attached to one side, this difference would be rather obvious to you.
It broke the Western facade of the rule of law. There was not even an attempt to argue it on merits – sovereignty vs. self-determination – it was pure force with open media lying. AP’s attempts to dig through Moldova and Ossetia are retarded, none of the Kosovo bombing and open aggression happened there.
What now? We are kind of stuck. It started with the unprovoked bloody NATO attack on Serbia to force an independent Kosovo. Crimea and Donbas are a direct consequence. The Kosovo bombers were celebrated, should we do it in this case too?
I used a shortcut that summarized the situation. You can see it as unjust or too blunt, but that’s what happened – Maidan was a pleading offer to the West “take us” (maybe even sincere). If you do that and then show you are willing to die for that unrequited yearning, why shouldn’t the West take advantage of the Ukies?
So you are doubling down on what the war is all about? Expanding NATO to threaten Russia was a huge mistake, a catastrophic policy that inevitably backfired. It’s not happening, so why are the Ukies and a few Western has-beens still blabbing about it? Just pretend it was never the “plan” and lets’ move on.
UK-France have always used Third World minorities to fight Russia. They allied with the Turks to invade Russia in the Crimean war. Are you unable to see both sides? It’s almost like a mental block.
That’s literally word-for-word the Nazi logic, I knew you had it in you…:) So if someone calls you a “fag” they lose all rights? You can ban their language in schools-offices and kill them? That’s very civilized of you, no wonder the hapless Balts are not doing well, you lack clear thinking and objectivity.
Kiev invaded Donbas and killed thousands of people. Are they the original invaders? It always depends on your point of view. Is Spain the invader in Catalonia? Was NATIO the invader when they attacked Serbia? Don’t hide behind subjective terms.
If you overlook and minimize their killing by Kiev and banning Russian, you do hate them. That you are reluctant to say it publicly is to your credit, you are not a full Nazi yet…:) But it’s a slippery slope. All people are equal – get it in your ideological dreamy head…
https://www.politico.eu/article/zelenskyy-full-ceasefire-first-and-then-well-talk/
“We will surrender if you will stop killing us.”
Also if I am Zelensky I am making quiet plans to be elsewhere soon.
He did from the beginning. There will be a tsunami of people leaving, few hundred thousand including families; media, government, security, business..Many were given or promised visas, there is cash to be had. Some may simply move out to the Western Ukraine. But this is a devastating blow to the Ukrainian nation, they literally halved their numbers. It will take generations to recover, if ever. But jumping up and down screaming “kill the Moskali!” was so much fun…
No, that’s not Nazi logic, Nazi logic would be something slightly different. This is common sense logic practiced by many countries that do not offer special rights to separate groups.
Of course, rights are universal, but only the basic ones – such as the right to life – you didn’t noticed that putin is violating that rule? Or has been for 25 years?
Language rights, especially those of former colonists, are what are casually called special rights. You were talking about EU rights – neither Ukraine, nor Russia are in the EU. Russia is on a completely different civilizational trajectory and has never observed human rights fully so should have never lectured to others about it. So quit equating them to Europeans who have much higher standards.
My argument was that we have gone so far now, in this war and in Russia’s violations of human rights in Ukraine, that it is irrelevant to apply EU rights to Russians. I’m speaking from the moral point of view. If one uses hate speech and threatening language towards others, invades others and kills their kids, why should they expect any decency from others? These minority rights are meant for situations where the minorities respect the majority population and observe the rules of the society they live in, as well as observe the rules of civilized world.
So you can ‘Nazi’ me all you want, that doesn’t change, nor it has any effect on me, I’ve been called a Nazi for many years by all sorts of unsavory types. So it doesn’t bother me.
Of course, not, because Donbas is sovereign Ukrainian territory according to international law.
When Assad was bombing his own people was he invading them, that was ok? And when large governments build detention camps intended for political opposition, that’s ok? RusFed invaded Chechnia, don’t forget that, and killed like 20% of the population there. They are second rate humans compared to Russians to you, aren’t they? So it didn’t matter, right? Russia has killed way more civilians than Ukraine ever did plus Ukraine was forced to defend itself.
I don’t, but you downplay Ukrainian suffering. You are at odds with the civilized and healthy world.
Anyone who is not lazy and not trying to lie, can turn on the Ukrainian media and see countless, literally countless programs in Russian. They should’ve kept their own language, it may have spared them a little.
This used to be a sport:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushball
Nonsense. Right before the invasion, he was talking about how he wants everyone to enjoy the grilling season in a couple of months. He did that just to calm down the people. He was never going to leave. Putin left the Kremlin immediately and ran to some far away bunker when Prigozhin was going on his raid to Moscow.
Why do you keep justifying the ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians…
It sounds like you were talking about Team Trump coming to Ukraine to “collect” their self-imagined “debts” (or what was viewed by normal folks as the gracious help that the American people, along with other peoples of the world offered to the Ukrainian people in their time of dire need). Did you not follow what happened there? It went from 500 billion when Bessent first arrived, to 300, then to 120, and then they went quiet. Did you follow what just happened in London?
Let me know what you think of the book, after you’re through reading it. The Wikipedia entry gives it a sort of backhanded positive review:
Not surprising: (1)
To reach a viable end state, Kiev must permanently cede territory. And, there must be limits on Ukraine that prevent them from starting Round 2 some years down the road.
Zelensky’s intransigence can not change this reality. All he can do is extend Europe’s Folly with people dying on both sides.
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/high-profile-ukraine-peace-talks-scrapped-after-rubio-witkoff-pull-out-last-minute
You insisted this would happen in 2022 and Ukraine would collapse in weeks.
How did that prediction turn out?
Meanwhile people actually in Ukraine think they will outlast the Russians, who are desperately failing to gain significant ground and losing lots of men while doing so.
How many air strikes did Russia carry out on Moldova took place to force them to give up Transnistria?
My understanding is
a) Moldova declared independence from RF
b) Transnistria declared independence from Moldova
c) Moldova attacked Transnistria and were defeated
European leaders are completely insane. The puppet masters of Europe have been bringing unassimilable immigrants, both pagan and Islamic, into Europe for decades to wreck the entire culture of the region and perhaps the world.
Putin has been bringing in Central Asian Muslims to replace the Slavs.
That was in fact happening before the war.
Is Putin insane?
Putin’s recent proposal shows that he doesn’t care about getting to Odessa and landlocking Ukraine.
So I guess he doesn’t share your desired outcome in that regard, correct?
Or does he not have the ability to achieve that goal?
Thank you for agreeing with myself and Putin.
If you go back and look at my commenting history, you will see that I frequently proposed a solution that involves a new border similar to “current lines” (which does not include Odessa). I even suggested that taking the city is problematic, which implies that it is *not* what I would recommend: (1)
The reports on Putin’s “current lines” offer resembles my prior suggestions.
You are the last one to reach here, a “current lines” solution. Better late than never.
• Now, can you get your Zelensky to go along?
• Or, do you admit he does not have the ability to do so?
If Führer Zelensky insists on continuing the fighting, he could wind up losing Odessa. Why do you & he want that option? There is no obvious upside in continuing to lose on the battlefield. Any “current lines” solution months from now will be worse for his regime as the lines are moving west.
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(1) https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-272/#comment-7094042
You’re losing the plot and digging a deeper hole for you argument at the same time.
What we were discussing is if the Lugansk attack was more likely to kill random civilians or to kill some specific person inside the building (and the reason I chose to discuss this is not accidental because it is one of the definitions of a war crime under the Geneva Convention). We were NOT discussing if the weapons used could conceivably kill someone inside the building, as you asked Grok.
As Grok explains, if someone was close to a window, the pilot knew where that person was exactly and it targeted his weapons towards it, it could possibly kill him. But there is zero evidence that any of these things happened.
Let me use excepts of Grok’s answer to your own massaged question:
I would be surprising, if not totally unexpected, if you continued denying what Grok and I have explained to you but I have a life and, having proven that Poroshenko’s regime engaged in war crimes against civilians, failure to address further attempts to argue the opposite should not be understood as my conceding any point whatsoever.
In fact, this is Grok’s perfectly reasoned and sourced answer to my direct question:
does what we know about the lugansk air attack against the regional administration building that killed 8 people have the elements of a war crime?
I couldn’t hope to lay it out in clearer terms:
Full answer:
The Luhansk air attack on the regional administration building on June 2, 2014, which killed eight civilians, does exhibit elements of a war crime based on international humanitarian law (IHL) principles, particularly those outlined in the Geneva Conventions and customary IHL. Let’s break this down using the available information and legal standards.
What We Know About the Attack
The air strike targeted the regional administration building in Luhansk, Ukraine, controlled by pro-Russian separatists at the time. Key details include:
Civilian Casualties: Eight civilians were killed, including administrative worker Inna Kukuruza and Natalya Arkhipova, the self-declared government’s Minister of Health. Several others were injured, with video evidence showing severe harm to civilians outside the building [Web ID: 1].
Nature of the Attack: The strike involved non-guided rockets fired from an aircraft, likely an Su-25 warplane using a 30mm cannon, as evidenced by craters and damage consistent with such weaponry. Surveillance footage captured the attack, and reports indicate multiple explosions and flashes, negating claims of a single internal explosion or a misfired air defense system [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 10].
Context: The attack occurred during the early stages of the war in Donbas, amid fighting between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russian separatists. The regional administration building was occupied by insurgents since April 2014, with reports of captives held in the basement, but the surrounding area had civilians, as shops and cafes were bustling and children were playing nearby [Web ID: 0] [Web ID: 7].
Claims and Denials: The pro-Russian leadership accused the Ukrainian air force of the attack, while Ukrainian authorities denied responsibility, initially blaming Russia and later suggesting insurgent GRAD rocket fire caused the damage. However, evidence like craters and video footage points to an aerial attack by a Ukrainian warplane [Web ID: 0] [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 5].
Elements of a War Crime
Under IHL, specifically the Geneva Conventions (Additional Protocol I) and customary law, a war crime can occur if certain principles are violated during an armed conflict. Relevant principles include:
Distinction: Parties must distinguish between military targets and civilians or civilian objects. Deliberate attacks on civilians or civilian objects are prohibited.
Proportionality: An attack must not cause excessive civilian harm in relation to the anticipated military advantage.
Precaution: Parties must take feasible precautions to minimize civilian harm, including verifying targets and choosing means of attack that reduce incidental damage.
Application to the Luhansk Attack
Distinction Violation:
The regional administration building, while occupied by insurgents, was in a civilian area with no active fighting at the time of the attack. The city was described as “quiet, even sleepy,” with civilians going about daily life [Web ID: 0]. The presence of insurgents doesn’t automatically make the building a military target if it retains its civilian character, especially since it was still functioning as an administrative hub (e.g., Inna Kukuruza was an administrative worker) [Web ID: 1].
The attack killed eight civilians outside the building, with no reported insurgent casualties, suggesting the strike either targeted civilians directly or failed to distinguish them from combatants. Deliberate or reckless attacks on civilians violate the principle of distinction, a core tenet of IHL.
Proportionality Violation:
Even if the building was a military target due to insurgent presence, the attack used non-guided rockets, which are inherently less precise and more likely to cause widespread damage [Web ID: 1]. The military advantage of striking the building (e.g., targeting insurgents) appears minimal, as no fighting was reported, and the insurgents’ control was already established since April [Web ID: 0].
The civilian toll—eight deaths, numerous injuries, and significant damage to the surrounding civilian area (e.g., craters in the park)—seems excessive compared to any potential military gain. This imbalance suggests a violation of proportionality.
Precaution Violation:
The use of non-guided rockets from an aircraft in a civilian area, without apparent efforts to verify the target or minimize civilian harm, indicates a lack of precautions. The OSCE’s Special Monitoring Mission noted the rockets were fired from an aircraft, and video evidence shows multiple explosions affecting civilians directly outside the building [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 10].
Ukrainian forces, if responsible, failed to take feasible measures to avoid civilian casualties, such as using precision-guided munitions or issuing warnings, especially given the bustling civilian presence nearby.
Legal Context and War Crime Classification
International Humanitarian Law: The conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 is classified as a non-international armed conflict, where IHL applies, including Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions and customary law. Attacks that violate distinction, proportionality, or precaution can constitute war crimes [Web ID: 1].
Specific War Crime: The attack aligns with the war crime of “intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities” (ICC Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i)). Even if the building was a military objective, the excessive civilian harm and lack of precautions could qualify as “launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians… which would be clearly excessive” (ICC Statute, Article 8(2)(b)(iv)).
Counterarguments and Ukrainian Denials
Ukrainian Claims: Ukrainian authorities denied responsibility, suggesting the damage resulted from insurgent GRAD rockets or a Russian jet. However, these claims are not supported by evidence, as craters, video footage, and witness reports point to an Su-25 warplane attack, consistent with Ukrainian air force capabilities [Web ID: 0] [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 5].
Anti-Terrorist Operation Defense: Ukraine described the strike as part of an “anti-terrorist operation,” but this doesn’t exempt them from IHL obligations. Even in law enforcement operations, the use of force must be necessary and proportionate, which this attack clearly wasn’t, given the civilian toll and lack of active combat [Web ID: 1].
Conclusion
The Luhansk air attack on June 2, 2014, does have the elements of a war crime. It likely violated the IHL principles of distinction, proportionality, and precaution by targeting or recklessly harming civilians in a densely populated area with non-guided rockets, resulting in eight civilian deaths and significant injuries. The evidence—civilian casualties, the nature of the weaponry, and the lack of active combat—suggests the attack was either deliberate or grossly negligent in its disregard for civilian safety, both of which can constitute war crimes under international law.
Sure, I can go with Putin is insane, though I think the situation is mildly different for Russia since the ties to these people are different. Their countries are near the border of Russia and in some cases there is a cultural gradient across the border with quite a few assimilated foreigners within Russia for a long time. I agree most Russians will regret the excessive unassimilable immigration, but I don’t think it is as weird and extreme as what goes on in Western Europe.
More like USA-Mexico than Europe. I wonder how the Russian immigrant percentages compare to the USA?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_Identity
Someone will have to do the hard work and write something similar for Eastern Slavs and the FUSSR in general.
Perhaps then some of our opponents will understand why killing in the name of identity is not really worth it.
Blimey. Ukraine flew their new Swedish AWACS plane round Lvov today – with transponders on. First plane I’ve seen like that since a transport escaped from Uzhhorod a year or so ago.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/64785
From wiki:
After Transnistrian paramilitary advances Moldova declared the state of emergency on 29 March, the armed conflict culminated in May and June in three areas along the Dniester river, and died down on 19–21 June after the Battle of Bender (also Tighina) where the 14th former Soviet Army intervened and drove the Moldovan army putting an end to the conflict.
Every conflict is different in details. For example, Kosovo was 80% Albanian but Crimea was only 60% Russian. And in Moldova Russia used artillery shelling rather than air strikes. (See more)
But the precedent for splitting off a piece of a country with a local majority different from the national one thorough military intervention by a foreign power was set in Moldova by Russia, not in Kosovo by NATO.
On 23 June, Major General Alexander Lebed arrived at the headquarters 14th Army in the Transnistrian capital under the orders from the Russian Ground Forces to inspect the army and evacuate the weapons depot.[citation needed]
On close to two weeks later, in the early hours of 3 July, Lebed ordered a massive artillery strike from the left bank of the Dniester onto a Moldovan contingent in Gerbovetskii forest (near Bender). This was considered to be the conflict’s climax which ultimately resulted in the end of the conflict’s military phase and the beginning of trilateral negotiations between Russia, Transnistria, and Moldova
Thus Ukrainian political analyst Anatoly Oktisyuk.
Boris Johnson did a bad days work (though doubtless profitable for him) when he persuaded Zelensky to ignore the Istanbul peace proposals.
I never mentioned “one specific person.” That is your straw man.
I mentioned Bolotov meeting his military leaders. A group of people.
You massaged Grok with your false question about one person to get the answer you wanted.
And you ignored that Grok, when asked about probability of hitting a group of people somewhere in the building, concluded 20% to 40%.
How convenient, but expected, of you to step away from the conversation now. You are smart enough to stop digging your hole.
Ukrainians are killing those who come to invade their country to kill them and rob them. Their motivation is self-defense and defense of loved ones. If Russians go home, Ukrainians stop killing.
Maybe the Russians are motivated by identity – they can’t tolerate Ukrainians having a different one than themselves. So they come to kill.
Thank you for agreeing with myself and Putin.
I don’t agree with you or Putin.
I agree with the UN 143-5 vote that all of the land belongs to Ukraine. A compromise wouldn’t change my opinion.
Putin is on record stating that Odessa is part of Russia. So I guess you disagree with him there, correct?
If you go back and look at my commenting history, you will see that I frequently proposed a solution that involves a new border similar to “current lines” (which does not include Odessa). I even suggested that taking the city is problematic, which implies that it is *not* what I would recommend: (1)
I did that and you originally said that he should burn Odessa to the ground:
Breaking the ability of the Europe Empire to supply Ukie aggression requires burning the rail system and eradicating Black Sea ports including Odessa.
Should he still burn Odessa to the ground?
You are the last one to reach here, a “current lines” solution. Better late than never.
I don’t know how you would conclude that when I said from the start of the war that Russia may well get a chunk of Ukraine. I’ve also said that only Ukraine knows when to stop fighting. I don’t pretend to know their casualty numbers like MacGregor, Putin, Martyanov and other youtube bullshitters. But based on everything I have seen I do believe that Ukraine still has a decent supply of JDAMS and HIMARS. I think it makes more sense to use them all before negotiating land but I don’t have a full view of the war.
I also said that trying to get back all of Crimea is probably unrealistic. I suggested cutting off Crimea and trying to drive out the population but not explicitly with a goal of taking it back. Taking back Crimea would most likely require cataclysmic political events.
Russia started with a 1:8 infantry advantage and the world’s largest tank supply. Super impressed that they have taken part of Ukraine. It would be like the US taking a part of Mexico.
World is so impressed. May a 1000 assault donkeys march on Kiev…..or Odessa…..maybe scale back that goal to Kharkiv. A glorious 2.5 week special operation under the totalitarian dwarf. What an amazing country, and to think a hundred years ago the British described the Russians as Europe’s losers that will keep invading their neighbors out of spite for what they lack.
I have heard rumours about him having a secret mistress and love child, and that he is gay, both seem possible (at the same time?). I think there have been influential Jews in the Labour Party for a long time, not sure how many of them are religious, so I assumed Starmer met his wife in these circles. Wiki says it was while she was working with him on a legal case.
He does have the problem that the Labour Party contains a small but influential Jewish lobby, and the Pakistani and other Muslim lobbies, and the LGBT lobby, and the young Trotskyites etc. This must take a certain amount of managing at the moment.
As YetAnotherAnon was saying, he is the definition of the rootless cosmopolitan type. Looking back, if the Remain side had wanted to swing the referendum they should have made more of his ‘global Britain’ agenda, at the time people may not have believed it though.
This reinforces my lack of faith in humanity by an immense amount.
https://www(dot)reddit(dot)com/r/UFOs/comments/1k5vvau/harald_malmgrens_wikipedia_just_got_nominated_for/
Украина понад усе ?
Would you kill for your Ukrainian identity?
🙂
BoJo has Jewish ancestry, he’s a British Noviop.
So there was a 70% probability that they wouldn’t hit anyone inside that building. And probably a 90% probability they would hurt bystanders outside. And when it happened, they denied that they did the hit.
Remember “кондиционер взорвался» ?
Why did they deny it if they were doing the right thing?
Well, I don’t think it is as good as A Vagabound Journey Around the World, but I believe this was a contemporary criticism from when the book was published, so I think the book has a certain antiquarian value not covered by the review.
Back then, they were probably awash in talk of the construction of the canal, but now it is more academic. Franck breathes life into it a little – though he wasn’t directly involved in the construction. He paints the strange panoply of mostly foreign labor – sort of like America’s version of the UAE, complete with accidents and deaths. He talks about how the little towns that workers had built and lived in would be abandoned or dismantled and flooded, one after the other.
There is a sociological value in it as he discusses the different workers. How the census takers were amazed by how quickly black babies would be walking around. The antagonism between French-speaking blacks and English-speaking ones. Ranks of behavior. He saw blacks who were British subjects as more polite than American (who weren’t really there anyway). People from Barbados more polite than Jamaica.
He talks about all sorts of different people, and says the one thing the locals were good at was using a machete to chop the jungle.
He talks about how America established order in the zone, and when it was French, the workers would constantly be raided by revolutionaries and have their clothing stolen.
He mentions how an American who spoke Spanish was a very rare animal.
It is not very politically correct. But it is slightly toned down from the first book. I have only seen one instance of “Nigger”, and it was in quotes.
I am about half-way through with it now.
The Istanbul peace proposals came with a lot of strings attached and unreasonable demands from the Russian side – Russia insisted on Ukraine committing to a neutral status and a significant reduction in its military (demilitarization). They also demanded recognition of the annexation of Crimea and Donbas. These are the same demands they have now.
And no security guarantees for Ukraine of any kind.
Wait, this supposed American said something as aggressive and bloodthirsty as this?? I didn’t notice that before, most of what he says about Ukraine is, of course, unacceptable, but that he said that ports should be blown up and railway burned… that is very aggressive.
A123, you do realize there is mostly civilian traffic and commerce in those ports? Including humanitarian cargo and agricultural products. Plus a nice city with very valuable architectural sites. Wow.
That is some real hate and warmongering from across the ocean.
You really need to calm down, A123. How would you feel if someone was agitating to burn your city to the ground where your family lives?
That would be a sin.
But I think I would kill to protect my loved ones and community if they were being attacked and invaded. This is why Ukrainians kill. It is not why Russians kill. The two sides are very, very different.
I understand this is hard for many Russians to accept, perhaps this is one of several reasons why they continue to kill.
JJ maliciously included the text without a link back to the source. Is it even correct? Everyone knows that JJ intentionally damages civil discourse by cherry picking lines to use them out of context. He should apply for a job at 60 MINUTES.
In a sufficiently dire hypothetical scenario, things could go that far. It is hardly a top strategy I would recommend. Based on JJ’s proven track record of deception, he is intentionally misrepresenting commentary on an outlier thermonuclear war scenario.
If it is limited to conventional forces, apply objective analysis. Make the reasonable assumption that the Kremlin legitimately believes that assimilating Odessa is impossible. Their options are “taking” or “bypassing & breaking”. What is the Russian military likely to do?
PEACE 😇
Correct. Given the nature of the stakes this was reasonable. The people they were trying to hit were the rebel leadership at the start of the war. Killing them could have made a big difference, could have ended the war early, saving hundreds if not thousands of lives. Like if someone killed Lenin, Trotsky etc at a gathering in 1917 weeks into the Revolution. At the risk of killing a small number of innocents.
And remember it was the rebel leadership who chose to put those civilians at risk by meeting among them, after they had killed Ukrainian troops.
Because they failed miserably and it was embarrassing.
If they had killed the Luhansk leadership they would have bragged about it.
Honestly, I suppose I am just repeating what I have heard, since I lack much of a personal impression of him. But some gayness does at least seem plausible.
Partly, it is the parallel developments in the Anglosphere. How Trudeau seems to talk with a lisp and keep his hair too long – I genuinely find his mannerisms disturbing. How there were all these Indian leaders, and one in Ireland was gay. It probably makes sense that it would be a bit more closeted in Britain.
I think it is an interesting discussion how politicians are often drawn from lawyers – a profession which is involved in obscuring the truth. And the trends in this over time.
It may be foolish just to compare raw percentages, with the past, without considering how lawyers and the courts themselves have changed.
It is an interesting combo.
On the larger scale, British politics seems so undynamic – the parties, even Reform, seem to resemble each other. It is hard to see that changing – I just imagine the lip service being adjusted to each group. But it is also hard to see how it can be kept together, so maybe it won’t be. Some say alien ethnic parties are growing across Europe.
I wouldn’t count on that. A person who stubbornly defends a war crime that most people on his own side rejected from the very beginning looks unsalvageable to me.
Besides, as we have discussed in the past, there is a crucial element of outside forces stoking this conflict by siding with the butchers from one side. Under those circumstances the prospects of any self-reflection leading to peace look grim.
It looks like Putin outdid Poroshenko just today killing 9 civilians in Dnipro (if Ukrainian sources are to be believed). Another despicable action that deserves all the widespread condemnation that it’s getting. But many of the people in the West who express outrage today didn’t move a finger when Poroshenko ordered military actions that he knew would result in mass civilian casualties. And when these casualties materialized (to the tune of thousands of his innocent countrymen killed) he didn’t hesitate and persisted in his offensive. Now he, among others responsible for these crimes, demand our support on humanitarian grounds and too many people in the West buy their narrative.
Yes, but what is the status of your faith in aliens?
You did worse than that. You invented a “meeting of rebel leaders” based on a totally uncorroborated statement by a violent man of questionable integrity, further invented a “tip” to the Ukrainian leadership and then went on to ignore all corroborated facts about the attack, claiming that your conjectures were more reliable than those facts.
On the contrary, I said that I may stop debating your nonsense as I see you dig a deep and pointless hole. But please feel free to keep digging and explain how exactly Grok is wrong in its conclusion that the Lugansk attack has all the elements of a war crime. It’s 17 paragraphs of thorough analysis and dispassionate reasoning for you to argue against.
I reckon the probability was closer to 99%. The bastard strafed the square adjacent to the building where families with children were present. Another article of the Geneva Convention, not mentioned by Grok, is that belligerents must give advanced warning to the civilian population of any military action to be conducted so that they have a chance to seek shelter.
A Russian chauvinist would say the same thing about the invasion. You are each other’s reflection in a broken mirror of hatred.
William T. Sherman already did it. All in a day’s work. After the war he went out west and killed thousands of redskins.
They have a fine memorial for the fellow in Washington D.C.
This has nothing to do with Eastern Euros including Odessa and Ukraine – we have done literally nothing to you, but have in fact helped your country. Yet you warmonger against us.
I hope that none of those who cheer for war on this forum would ever experience it firsthand. It’s not a pleasant experience…
Once Kiev decided that Ukraine will be a front-line state hostile to Russia no security guarantees were possible. They have chosen to be the primary battleground and there is no way out. NATO can’t change it – actually any outside military presence adds to the insecurity of Ukraine.
Neutral Ukraine – as was in their Constitution in 1991 – was a much better option. They blew it, no matter what they do now they will have decades of insecurity. What makes it worse is they chose to confront a permanently stronger neighbor, Russia. It’s too late for neutrality, nobody will trust them.
Is Tom Roswell right that the brachycephalic skull type common among Bell Beakers is due to supplemental WHG DNA from admixture in prehistoric Holland?
https://twitter.com/Tom_Rowsell/status/1914810140336742863
I mentioned somewhere before how I had once looked at a calendar of redheaded women (so color-matched). And surprisingly found that I could split it into a gradient of personal attractiveness, going generally from West to East. (Though I suppose this could also be acculturation – greater exposure to certain facial types.)
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Is this Portugal now?
https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1915021192345407904
AI trickery is not permitted.
PEACE 😇
There could be because other actors, besides just Ukraine, are interested in regional stability and in an intact Ukraine. Best security guarantees are the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
But in the context of Istanbul – I just noted this because people here keep bringing up Istanbul as some sort of a missed opportunity for peace. But at a closer look, it was just another attempt by Russia to try to legalize their occupation and illegal gains (thus opening a global Pandora box where anyone can then try their luck letting chaos reign). With Ukraine getting exactly nothing in return. Since Russia would not stop threatening Ukraine, since Russia wants to control not only all of Ukraine, but half of Europe. Why should Ukraine and her allies agree to anything like that?
With nukes, yes, and a domestic missile program.
That’s a tautology, but Ukraine is not strong enough. It can hurt Russians but it can’t defeat them. What’s the next best security guarantee? The choice was between trying to join NATO and neutrality. Kiev chose NATO and it inevitably meant the un-winnable war. We can’t go back, the damage is done – forced neutrality is a lot less pleasant than voluntary one. Russia will force it now.
That was done when NATO attacked Serbia to separate Kosovo by force. Those who deny it are not serious people.
It’s not going to happen. Not only Russia would prevent it (easily), but also most of Europe and US. Nobody wants proliferation of nukes.
No, I said many would not fight and many would leave – and many did. But Ukraine is a large country and had maybe 30 million people to draw on, Russia also invaded with a risibly small force 120-150k – they were looking for a deal (Istanbul).
What does outlast mean? Thousands more dead Ukies? More destruction? What are the goals? Trump put a fork in the Ukie-NATO Project, the lost lands can’t be won back by force and all you get is a rump-Ukraine with fewer and fewer people. Is that the goal and what “outlast” means? Let me remind you of your whopper of a lie with the “paused offensive” in 2023. Still “paused”?
You don’t speak for people in Ukraine, some may share your views but most don’t. They don’t want to die for nothing – and the remaining realistic goals add up to nothing. Trump latest offer is an acknowledgment of reality – the war is lost, Russia won. If US cuts of aid (they are doing it), Ukraine will suffer more and get even less later. It’s time to face the music. Jumping up and down on Maidan “kill Moskali”, burning Russians to death, bombing Donbas – those were all very bad ideas. Now for the consequences.
You keep rushing ahead of events.. you do it a lot. Yet you do not have a crystal ball nor are you that good at predicting things. I remember when you said that Ukrainians would not resist the Russian invasion, and I told you that they will “shoot from every window”, which they pretty much did (plus their armed forces put up a really good fight). So be careful when you rush ahead.
Ok, that principle counts, although the situation was slightly different there, but this just makes it much, much worse, because it now affects a much larger group of states and will reverberate further. And it affects America’s standing.
In that case nuclear states need to abide by their rules (in fact, they should abide by much higher rules of conduct than everyone else, including when it comes to human rights) and not attack states which they gave security guarantees to while taking away their nukes.
Yeah, US didn’t show up in London making the whole picnic irrelevant…:)
Trump started with $300 billion US spent on the Ukraine Project incl. IMF and World Bank. He won’t get that, but as all good businessmen he is trying to salvage and get something back. Trump as a Repo-man: the expensive project failed but there are goodies and funds that can be recovered. The point is not in how much the US will recover, it’s in US asking for it – the ask will be a financial sword of Damocles over Ukraine.
“Gracious help”? So sending billions in mostly old weapons and cash to pay Ukie salaries was done out of grace? That sounds like charity, is US the modern pope? You are way off, it was an investment and it failed – after all failed investments the creditors try to get anything of value to mitigate losses. Ukies have no say in it, they agreed to the deal from the beginning. If they won, everyone would be much richer. But they didn’t.
I am .99=P that aliens OR djinn OR fairies OR demons are all over the place though my usage of the word faith is only vaguely similar to the generally received meaning of your sentence.
I am only at 2:19:00 of the Malmgren interview and it is exhausting. It will take at least 3 or more likely 4 or 5 days to get through all of it. If viewers have not studied any of the literature on mechanisms and reliability of human memory they might take this Malmgren dope far more significantly than it deserves. My biggest question is what does Christopher Mellon think? It appears he is being trumped. : )
Also. If I am ever in that medical condition I would hope that my closest relative would shoot me in the brain before allowing such a video to be shown to 342 thousand viewers so far. Aye ^ 7.
It would not have failed had they not changed course recently. The Ukrainian state had been mainly salvaged and the US had a lot of help from Europe. Above all, Ukrainians turned out to be really good fighters and now have their own defense industry. The world would’ve continued to purchase American weapons. Alas, they changed course drastically and pulled out the kill switch (really bad idea). Because of this they may end up losing way more money than they could ever gain. Those F35 contracts are worth like a trillion dollars over decades.
I don’t predict because that involves timing. I try to understand the situation and see what will happen next – but one can never know the timing. That’s what makes it so interesting.
Where? I am not aware of any Ukie civilians shooting at Russians. Army is different, people obey orders. But the morale is not that high, there are many deserters and Ukie POWS are 6 to 1 to Russia’s. That suggests low morale.
Who will make them? Has US or UK abided by the rules? No. It is not clear-cut and countries move back and forward but power still matters. Can you imagine the world where power would not mean anything? Try it, it would be an absolute nightmare…power organizes things, it focuses us on what matters. Learn how to live with it.
A whole bunch of them joined the national guard right away and a huge volunteer movement developed, there is an army of volunteers who help the Armed forces.
Well, that was exactly my point. If the nuclear states do not observe the system that was developed, then they shouldn’t complain about nuclear proliferation. Power will be rebalanced.
If this figure is true it also suggests Russians shoot those of their troops who try to surrender.
You predicted that the elites would flee and the soldiers would refuse to fight as soon as Russia invaded.
I’m glad you are making a similar prediction now, it suggests the opposite will happen. Again.
You are correct that most people in Ukraine don’t share my views. I think Ukraine should give up some land in exchange for security.
While the number of people in Ukraine willing to give up land for peace and security is increasing, it is still a minority view there. Most do not want to give up any land. Most feel they will win it all, or at least most of it, eventually.
Perhaps you shouldn’t base your information about Ukraine from bitter exiles.
Why do you think he was there?
And since he was the one who was with other leaders, his words are relevant. He knows better where he was than you do.
And since he is the one who stated that he was there, how did I invent that meeting? It was his claim.
More importantly, what does your favorite Grok say?
Was valery bolotov with other rebel leaders in the Luhansk regional building when it was attacked by a Ukrainian jet
Grok:
“Valery Bolotov, the self-proclaimed leader of the Luhansk People’s Republic, was reportedly in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian Air Force airstrike on June 2, 2014. According to a source, Bolotov claimed the attack targeted him and other separatist leaders, stating, “We know for sure that Poroshenko gave the order to destroy me and other leaders … I was in the building during the raid.” This suggests the presence of other rebel leaders, though no specific names or confirmation of their attendance are provided in the available information. The airstrike, likely conducted by an SU-25 jet using S-8 rockets, killed eight civilians and injured others, with Bolotov alleging it was an assassination attempt.
However, there’s no direct evidence in the sources confirming that other rebel leaders were physically with Bolotov at the time of the attack. The Ukrainian government denied responsibility, and conflicting narratives—some suggesting the explosion’s cause was unclear—complicate the picture. While Bolotov’s statement implies other leaders might have been present or targeted, the lack of specific details leaves it uncertain whether they were actually in the building during the strike.”
So we have his statement of where he was, but no corroboration and also no refutation – he hasn’t been proven to be elsewhere.
And if he lied about being there, why would he admit to placing civilian in danger and/or to excuse the Ukrainian attack, which would have been a war crime if rebellion leaders weren’t in the building (this is how you massaged the question to get your preferred Grok response)
Unless it was tipped off, how would the Ukrainian government know to attacks this specific building at the specific time when the rebel leaders were there? Do you think it was a coincidence?
Your question didn’t mention that the rebel leadership was in the building when it was attacked.
Question:
Was it a war crime for Ukraine to attack the Luhansk regional administration building while rebel leaders including Valery Bolotov were in the building?
“### Conclusion
The airstrike’s legality hinges on proportionality and precautions. The Luhansk administration building, as a separatist stronghold hosting Bolotov and possibly other leaders, was likely a legitimate military target. However, the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area, resulting in eight civilian deaths, raises serious concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions. If Ukrainian forces failed to verify the absence of civilians or chose indiscriminate means knowing the risks, the attack could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
However, without definitive evidence of intent to target civilians or a comprehensive investigation into Ukraine’s decision-making (e.g., intelligence, weapon choice, anticipated harm), it’s not possible to conclusively label it a war crime. The civilian deaths and attack’s execution suggest a violation of IHL principles, but legal accountability would require further scrutiny by a competent authority, such as the International Criminal Court, which has investigated Donbas war crimes but not specifically this incident in public records”
Full response under more:
Determining whether the Ukrainian Air Force’s airstrike on the Luhansk Regional State Administration building on June 2, 2014, constituted a war crime involves applying international humanitarian law (IHL), particularly the Geneva Conventions and customary IHL, to the specific circumstances. Here’s an analysis based on available information and legal principles:
### Key Facts
– **Event**: On June 2, 2014, an airstrike, attributed to a Ukrainian SU-25 jet using S-8 rockets, struck the Luhansk Regional State Administration building, controlled by separatists of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR). Valery Bolotov, the LPR leader, claimed he was in the building, possibly with other rebel leaders, and described the attack as an assassination attempt.
– **Casualties**: The strike killed eight civilians and injured several others in the adjacent park and surrounding area.
– **Context**: The attack occurred during the early stages of the Donbas conflict, a non-international armed conflict between Ukrainian forces and Russian-backed separatists. The building was a separatist stronghold, used for military and administrative purposes.
– **Claims**: Bolotov alleged the use of cluster bombs and targeting of civilians, though evidence points to unguided S-8 rockets. Ukraine denied responsibility, and some narratives suggested the explosion’s cause was unclear or possibly staged by separatists.
### Legal Framework
Under IHL, applicable to non-international armed conflicts via Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions and customary law, several principles govern the legality of attacks:
1. **Distinction**: Parties must distinguish between combatants (or those directly participating in hostilities) and civilians, targeting only the former (Additional Protocol II, Article 13; customary IHL).
2. **Proportionality**: An attack must not cause excessive civilian harm relative to the anticipated military advantage (customary IHL, reflected in Additional Protocol I, Article 51(5)(b), applicable by analogy).
3. **Precaution**: Attackers must take feasible precautions to minimize civilian harm, including verifying targets and choosing means and methods of attack to avoid incidental harm (customary IHL; Additional Protocol I, Article 57).
4. **Protected Objects**: Civilian objects, including administrative buildings, must not be targeted unless they are being used for military purposes, making them legitimate military objectives (Additional Protocol I, Article 52).
War crimes in this context include intentionally targeting civilians, launching indiscriminate attacks, or causing disproportionate civilian harm (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)).
### Analysis
1. **Legitimate Target?**
– The Luhansk administration building was under LPR control and used for military and administrative purposes by separatist forces. Bolotov, as a rebel leader, and potentially other leaders, were likely directly participating in hostilities, making them lawful targets under IHL.
– If the building served as a command center or was used for military operations, it could qualify as a military objective, even if it retained some civilian functions. The presence of rebel leaders strengthens this argument, as targeting high-value commanders is permissible if they contribute to military action.
2. **Civilian Harm and Proportionality**
– The strike caused significant civilian casualties (eight deaths, multiple injuries), primarily in the adjacent park. The use of unguided S-8 rockets, which are area weapons, in a populated urban area raises concerns about indiscriminate effects.
– For the attack to be lawful, the anticipated military advantage (e.g., neutralizing Bolotov and disrupting LPR command) must outweigh the expected civilian harm. The death of eight civilians and injuries to others could be deemed excessive if Ukrainian forces knew or should have known civilians were nearby, especially in a non-evacuated city center.
– Bolotov’s claim of cluster bombs, if true, would heighten the likelihood of a war crime due to their inherently indiscriminate nature. However, physical evidence (shrapnel, craters) aligns more with S-8 rockets, which are less precise but not inherently unlawful.
3. **Precautions**
– IHL requires attackers to verify targets and take feasible measures to minimize civilian harm, such as issuing warnings or using precision-guided munitions. There’s no evidence Ukraine issued warnings or used precision weapons, despite the building’s location in a civilian area.
– The choice of unguided rockets in a densely populated area suggests limited precautions, though the extent of Ukrainian reconnaissance or intelligence about civilian presence is unclear.
4. **Intent**
– A war crime requires intent to target civilians or reckless disregard for civilian consequences. Bolotov’s claim that the strike was an assassination attempt suggests Ukraine targeted rebel leaders, not civilians. However, if Ukraine knew civilians were likely to be harmed and proceeded regardless, this could constitute recklessness.
– Ukraine’s denial of responsibility and conflicting narratives (e.g., suggesting separatist staging) complicate assessing intent. No definitive evidence shows deliberate targeting of civilians, but the attack’s execution raises questions about due care.
5. **Contextual Challenges**
– The Donbas conflict’s early phase was chaotic, with limited intelligence and fluid frontlines. Ukraine’s capacity to conduct precise strikes may have been constrained, but this does not exempt them from IHL obligations.
– Separatist narratives, including Bolotov’s, may exaggerate or distort events for propaganda, while Ukraine’s denial lacks transparency. The absence of an independent investigation (e.g., by the UN or ICC) limits clarity.
### Conclusion
The airstrike’s legality hinges on proportionality and precautions. The Luhansk administration building, as a separatist stronghold hosting Bolotov and possibly other leaders, was likely a legitimate military target. However, the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area, resulting in eight civilian deaths, raises serious concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions. If Ukrainian forces failed to verify the absence of civilians or chose indiscriminate means knowing the risks, the attack could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
However, without definitive evidence of intent to target civilians or a comprehensive investigation into Ukraine’s decision-making (e.g., intelligence, weapon choice, anticipated harm), it’s not possible to conclusively label it a war crime. The civilian deaths and attack’s execution suggest a violation of IHL principles, but legal accountability would require further scrutiny by a competent authority, such as the International Criminal Court, which has investigated Donbas war crimes but not specifically this incident in public records.
This assessment avoids speculation beyond the evidence and balances both sides’ claims, acknowledging the complexity of attributing responsibility in a contested conflict. If you seek a deeper legal analysis or investigation into related ICC cases, let me know.
He might. So?
Hitler said the same thing about invading Poland as Poles would say about defending their country from Germany. Does that prove that the two sides were really the same?
What would you think of a German who claimed that? Even one who condemned “both sides?”
How convenient to think this way, for someone who is attached to the wrong side.
And yes, the side who invades the other (no matter what the excuse) is the wrong side.
I don’t follow either side of the conflict’s media, mostly because of language issues, and I also prefer an outside view because of possible wartime censorship, disinformation and good old propaganda. While I try to see both sides’ point of view and include neutral and MSM perspectives I also believe that Russia is in control of a difficult situation so I would give more attention to their perspective to figure out how this would end.
Martyanov for me is a kind of surrogate for understanding what the Russian attitude is, he has a Soviet military background and a long standing interest in and expertise in military matters:
Yes, at one point I heard Ed Dutton talking about him, and he seemed to be saying that Starmer had a love child and was also gay at the same time. I didn’t watch the full video to find out what the evidence was, but at the same time it didn’t sound improbable.
It is a pattern, it also seems to reflect social life irl, though by now a lot of the strange fetishes and decadent behaviour seems to have become institutionalised, like they have also become part of an ideology.
Some of those French guys I read go into this in a lot of depth and mark it out as one of the defining features of politics since the 1980s. It gets called ‘the second moment of the Rights of Man’, after the first in the 1789 revolution.
Referring to the way the social and political order becomes ‘judicialised’ and legalistic even to quite a low level. I think it’s interesting and a real trend, I’ve been hoping that some of the D/R content makers pick up on it. I would think it is one explanation for why lawyers have become central political figures.
You can see these parties growing slowly here as well, or becoming informal sub-groups within the main political parties, like with the Bangladeshi candidate in Reform. Afaik this is a more advanced process within the Labour Party itself. From my own pov I am expecting some split to occur between the different ethnic minority groups and the white feminists and LGBT at some point, and possibly Britain will follow a similar path to France and Germany eventually, only it is a slower process.
I am going to Lisbon at the weekend so I should be able to make some observations about ethnic balance, I just read through the wiki section on Portuguese demographics. Quite interesting, but I see that when I was last in Portugal in 2001-2, there were ~200,000 foreign citizens resident. Now there are 1,500,000, with half from Brazil, next largest group Angolans etc. Should be an observable difference.
Heading a couple of thousand miles south-east, this could mean trouble – India have closed the main crossing between Lahore and Amritsar and have suspended the water-sharing treaty which gives Pakistan the lion’s share of the water of the Indus and other rivers which flow through Indian administered Kashmir.
They didn’t do this even when the two countries were at war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Waters_Treaty
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/23/kashmir-attack-sparks-fear-of-fresh-conflict-between-india-and-pakistan
India, while a member of BRICS, is closer to the West/US while Pakistan is closer to China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor
I am detached from RF. Has been for years, I see it for what it is. But I also see Ukraine for what it is. Both systems are nothing good for their own people. Both are corrupt Noviop dominated simulacra that parade as nations. Fake to the core and deadly on top of that. Both contribute to the ethic eclipse of our folk, which is one folk. Оба хуже… You don’t see it because you have been thoroughly died in the Galician branch of the Ukrainian nationalism. Your whole outlook on right and wrong is predicated upon it. In your view the moskal are the problem, in a Russian chauvinist view the khokhol are. Поздравляю, вы нашли друг друга! Живите теперь с этим…
Yeah that might escalate quickly. ISIS-K goons have been flown in that region on « black helicopters » for a reason. When one looks on the map, one sees that Kashmir is (sadly for its people) very close to the « central Asian nexus » in the mountains between India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tadjikistan and China. A nice place to start a war. Someone is looking to stir trouble and tip India into the US orbit and realign it again decisively against China. I wonder who that someone might possibly be…
That’s not the same as Ukie civilians shooting at Russians from every window. National guard is part of the army. So no, there is no sign that in the areas taken by Russia there are are no civilian uprisings.
You can’t rebalance power when you are powerless. Reality is that US, Russia and China are so far ahead of any other country in nukes they can – if they choose to – completely dominate them. That includes UK and France. Proliferation is bad, but it is a fraction of the power the big guys have.
https://jonathanturley.org/2025/04/23/back-with-a-vengeance-former-biden-disinformation-governance-board-chief-chief-nina-jankowicz-tells-european-union-to-oppose-the-united-states/
Ahem, what’s her ethnic background again ?
Speaking of which, Christya (or is it Christia?) Freeland is at the board of directors of WEF now, of course she was one of the YGL all along serving the globalist in Canada. Still it’s a marvel to behold how smoothly the globalist cabal moves their pawns from one place to another.
RUSSIAN: (1)
The LA Times confirms she is not Jewish.
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(1) https://www.frontpagemag.com/nina-jankowicz-putting-red-lipstick-censorship-thom-nickels/
(2) https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2022-05-20/as-disinformation-boards-leader-she-faced-crush-of-online-abuse
That’s possible, but I think they need to relocate the trained thugs somewhere and Kashmir is as good as any other place. It’s far enough and the trainers (who could that be?) are not too worried about Indian lives. They generally don’t care about any lives but given the current tense atmosphere they prefer to keep them occupied in Kashmir…
Geographically given the un-passable mountains of that region it is very difficult to move around and destabilize the countries there. It looks like just blowing off some steam…
My tranny radar is buzzing, though it is a tough call. Reminds me of a very well manicured Cirillo. This person may be a psycho trying to give trannies a bad (worse) name! Check back in five years when Nino can no longer be held back by makeup.
I think the Ontrend author was probably trying to say this: “Russians who want to wreck the world are predominantly Jewish.”
She’s Ukrainian/Galician. Just like Christya (?) «Freeland » (neé Khomtchak). Stop seeing a Jewish angle in every problem… 😉
I do not see a Jewish angle in every problem. I was trying to provide helpful information in advance to preempt those who do.
You should consider being less aggressively judgemental. It would do you good.
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Yes, I seem to remember someone armed bin Laden to weaken the USSR.
If Trump is cutting Ukraine loose he’s got an odd way of doing it – another shipment of US arms from Dover AFB to Rzeszow:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CMB488/3a0812e6
Kalitta Air Boeing 747-4B5F, reg N715CK
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n715ck
gets about a bit, this one, a fair few China trips considering current fractures
And a Canadian RCAF Hercules coming in:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CFC2903/3a08d13d
This was discussed a bit up at comment #380. There is a chart of flights by month.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-272/#comment-7096153
To recap:
• Team Biden came up with an additional $20B in the waning days of that administration. The U.S. system makes it very hard to not spend funds that are appropriated.
• Planes move items both ways. Heavy airlift will be needed to carry items back to America (or elsewhere).
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Elsewhere I mentioned that “Cut & Run” is a poor choice. Do you remember Afghanistan withdrawal fiasco?
An offensive support cutoff is likely to be gradual and quiet to minimize risk. Some purely defensive systems may be left in Ukraine.
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Eventually?..an interesting term with no timing. I don’t think it’s true about most Ukies. They are not stupid, your contacts suffer from an incurable bravado or tell you what they think you want to hear.
Large parts of former Ukraine can’t go back under Kiev, equally, large parts in the western-center can’t go under Russia. In the first case because the Ukies would murder them, in the second because – as you put it – Russia would oppress them. Or vice-versa, let’s not quibble. It’s only a question of where the lines are drawn.
If Zelko refuses to negotiate it will be decided by force. This is bad for Ukraine – their support network is down to a few dozen Euro-weaner countries and Canada (maybe). None of them want to bleed for the cause, but they enjoy the killing. The pattern is very consistent – Kiev refuses an imperfect deal and ends up losing more lands and people.
Congratulations! Taken directly out of historian Putler’s historical schematic that he had disseminated to the world press just before he invaded Ukraine in 2022. He’s the Noviop guy that you like to disparage here on occasion. For the record, Ukrainians and Russians are two different people that share some similarities, like Danes, Swedes and Norwegians do, but nobody today would refer to them a “one folk”.
It’s too bad that a smart guy like you has so many problems in understanding what AP wrote to you. If you did, it would go a long way in helping you (and others here) understand why Russia is more culpable for this devastating war. As he pointed out: “But I think I would kill to protect my loved ones and community if they were being attacked and invaded. This is why Ukrainians kill. It is not why Russians kill. The two sides are very, very different.” Also too hard for you to understand? Ukrainians are motivated to defend and preserve their country, whereas Russians are motivated to conquer and subdue its neighbor. On the one side, pay and privileges are not motivating its loyal soldiers, on the other side large monthly stipends motivate the vast majority of recruits.
Some more more interesting speculation, they seem to agree that the US is backing out, but that the war would continue:
Which of our Russia defenders would like to explain how this attack fits a previously made claim that Putin is trying to avoid civilian casualties:
That’s a missile strike launched at downtown Kiev which is how he started the war.
The mass murdering dwarf had a tantrum over the ammo depot and attacked a densely populated civilian area.
A bigley genius move given the current negotiations.
As your motivations and interests in Panama seem to be of a more general nature than politically/canal inspired, I though that I would share my impressions of this film with you, that I watched last night on youtube. Somehow it was fate that led me to watch this one, and it was hard to resist after our discussions here about Mr. Franck’s book and his trip to Panama. Don’t be possibly put off by the slight quirky nature of the “Charlie Chan” franchise, for the film includes many revealing visual shots of pre war Panama city, crisp and authentic:
It’s ostensibly a spy yarn that of course does include some great shots of the canal itself, including a great topographical map of the whole complex! Back alley shots, street views and nightclub scenes all make the ticket price quite a bargain. Panama city is referred to as “the spy capitol of the world” within the film, a term that I’ve heard used to describe both Berlin and Istanbul too. A fun romp with a surprise ending to boot! You may also want to watch some contemporary travelogue videoclips of Panama city too. It looks like a fascinating city to visit today as well. I plan to do so, while visiting my home base in Costa Rica.
Oh, and lest I forget, there’s a cool passenger hydroplane scene that’s shown transporting tourists, that’s something not often seen today. 🙂
It seems Russia believes the Western posturing is more war than peace. Many conflicting messages have been made so this is not a surprise.
What buildings were targeted? Do we know? How could we know, are there any reliable sources? Did the vaunted Ukie air defenses shoot the missiles down to fall on civilian victims or did the vaunted air defenses sit this one out? Were Ukie military assets placed behind human shields?
Crap. If Russia was deliberately trying to kill civilians Kiev would look like Hamburg or Dresden.
Why should they want to kill civilians?* How does that diminish the Ukrainian war effort? It doesn’t.
” Oh, I forgot – because Russians are untermensch?
It’s called collateral damage, look it up. NATO has used the term for 25 years – and the “damage” was in thousands of killed civilians not dozens.
Same rules, right?
Ukies are in a corner so they may as well fight to the last – it will make Starmer very happy. Macron is keeping track of the dead Ukies trying to figure out at what point will Odesa be available for settlement of his undesirables. Merz just wants revenge for his dad and grandpa. None of the cheerleaders have skin the game…it will go on.
The CIA has a large enough black budget that the American goons can have it both ways. They can wage war and deny it at the same time. See: the last 80 years almost non-stop. I seem to recall they stopped for a couple years to catch their breath after the Vietnamese kicked their ass.
I got to the 3.5 hour mark! This involved blocking a freaking hour of my high energy morning early bird time. I think I can cruise to the end now.
This is the first ever interview I have seen of a guy reclining in his death-chair. I didn’t even know death-chair was a thing. I want to know the drugs these people are on. Harald might be on every drug variety, one of each. The biggest bang is probably risperdal. Jesse might be modafinil and he even could be micro-dosing some sort of entheogen. Pippa is a drunk. Maybe xanax or valium. Probably xanax or valium. As a work of fiction the content is first-rate. I am not sure whether the Knights of Malta conspiracy or the Forrest Gump tale of Harald dressing down Curtis LeMay would be on the top of the list but it is a long list. UFO’s are in the top ten but not the top two.
Production values suck. If Jesse’s producer knew what’s up he would have wheeled Harald into a strip club. Maybe I suck. There is still 30 minutes to the end and they might make it to that strip club. If Pippa gets a lap dance I will save the time stamp for everybody.
I don’t think I need to contribute the fact that no UFO was ever touched. But if Christopher Mellon can top this everybody in his brain quarters is going to have to put on their thinking cap.
Oh yeah I almost forgot. Malmgren knows Putin.
Unherd 13 Jan 2022
https://unherd.com/2022/01/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-putin/
no paywall: https://archive.ph/k5px3
This is short and funny as hell. Before Bro Science guy was covered in tattoos.
The best comment.
I doubt that the Western sponsors of the war have any idea about what they helped to unleash. Both sides are unlikely to back off now, so the war should probably run its course.
I wish you pleasant journeys! And would certainly be interested in any observations you care to share.
There are some Brazilians up this way – as I suppose in many places now. I confess that I often feel quite puzzled to see Brazilian flags flown outside of homes. It doesn’t seem like a discrete ethnic identity, and I can’t think they are praising the system of governance. I wonder what they would do if some really black Brazilians rang their doorbell, but maybe it doesn’t happen, and there are filters at play.
In my hearing, they seem to often be judged as untrustworthy. Like a Brazilian roofer will run off with the money, and don’t go to a Brazilian mechanic. Though, there was once a funny little old guy, who asked me for a haircut, when he saw me trimming some hedges.
Russia has imprisoned army commander Ivan Popov for five years on trumped up fraud charges. Amazing how almost every competent military man in Russia ends up in jail. One possible explanation:
https://twitter.com/nikola_mikovic/status/1915365002124345424
FT on Putin
Re: Below Linked Glenn Diesen-Gilbert Doctorow Exchange & Daniel Davis-Larry Johnson Discussion
Putin’s call for an Easter truce isn’t the first such proposal on his part. Prior to this year, he previously offered such.
Respectively question whether Putin offered a proposal to only accept former Ukrainian SSR territory it currently has as a sophisticated effort to “smoke out Zelensky”, in terms of the latter’s obstinance. The wording of that FT report leaves room for doubt. Then again, it could be argued that this plausible deniability question mark serves Putin to (maybe) make that statement.
On the other hand, the FT might be looking to try to corner Putin, hoping that Zelensky would accept what was supposedly proposed. If not, no great loss for the FT. Did Witkoff confirm what Putin supposedly proposed?
In an unintended way, Zelensky and his main backers are serving Russia’s interests. Had Zelensky accepted that proposal, he’d be in a better standing with the US. In turn, Putin would be somewhat more pressed PR wise, relative to his recognizing all of Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk and Lugansk as Russian.
The Minsk Accords, Istanbul talks and more recent events conclusively show how the Kiev regime has been misled.
UPDATE:
Mercouris shares the above take concerning the FT piece on Putin –
That should be “every competent military man in Russia who actually wants to win ends up in jail”.
I suspect the European Globalists (Germany/France/UK) wanted the chaos. That is why they are continuing to push with no hope of victory. What have they gained:
• The Visegrád 4 have been a thorn in Brussels side. The fight has caused great strife in that block, especially between Poland and Hungary
• It distracted the people of Germany/France/UK from domestic issues and poor leadership. This was temporary, but the elites gained a couple of years.
• Refugee flows serve as cover for The Great Muslim Replacement of European Jews and Christians. Approximately 1/3 of “Ukrainian Refugees” are actually MENA and sub-Saharan Muslims on forged identity documents. When the war ends most actual Ukrainians will return home. This will expose the scale of the con job done to native citizens.
Merz, Macron, and Starmer are willing to “Fight to the Last Ukrainian”. Führer Zelensky is Europe’s puppet. It is hard to see this ending until the Ukrainian people get rid of Zelensky and break away from European Globalist control.
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It is interesting to follow the angle of Trump’s hidden agenda. Trump’s main preoccupation, in this far away war, is to make money – true businessman. I could be wrong but his insistence to end this conflict obviously contradicts his MAGA motto and it is therefore puzzling.
Here is the clue. Continuation of Ukraine direct support is costly – no argument there from the domestic enemies – but selling military hardware to EU useful idiots is a great bonanza for the US military. Historically the US made money from wars. He is now working on a scheme how to walk away from the Ukraine conflict without antagonizing the DNC and his party pro-war hawks. Zelensky is the fall guy, that is why I think the WH incident was staged. Rubio snubbing London meeting is another step closer for the US to exit the Ukraine conflict.
This means profitable continuation of war thru the EU proxies, however Russians are beyond trusting the US after more than decade of economic onslaught by the West.
I believe that you sincerely think so and therefore are honest when you say so.
If this were true I wouldn’t have married a Russian-Polish girl and wouldn’t have happily lived in Moscow for awhile.
I am a patriot of Galicia but not any kind of nationalist and, if anything, a pan-Baltic-Slav.
As such, I think that the country that invades a Slavic country and kills its people is wrong. No matter what the excuse. That’s Russia.
If you were truly detached you would not be blind to this fact.
Mikhail…you still do not know that Ukraine+EU+US is inseparable anti-Russian team. Their aim is the Russian destruction and one cannot rationally refute it. The idea was hatched long time ago.
Zelinsky said “Russian Crimea is my”. After every lie he will be slapped like that – new policy.
Derer… you still do not grasp that Populist MAGA U.S. is separating from European Globalism, especially as it is seen in Ukraine.
The new American team sees China as the #1 strategic priority. At a minimum, they will stop pushing Russia towards the CCP. Ideally, they would like joint projects that help build a constructive economic relationship between Christian Russia and the Christian U.S.
MAGA is building contacts with growing Populist parties in Europe including France’s RN, Germany’s AfD, and UK Reform. The idea that existing far-Left European governments are proxies of MAGA does not hold up to scrutiny.
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If this wasn’t about a war crime that everybody (including its perpetrators!) distanced themselves from and a person who stubbornly insists in supporting that war crime 11 years later, it would be really comical.
Of course you didn’t dare address the specific reasons why Grok concluded that all the evidence pointed at a war crime. Instead you chose to make Grok accept your uncorroborated premise of a “rebel leader meeting” and even then Grok told you exactly what I would have lol.
I’m copy/pasting from the answer Grok gave you, but consider it my own reply to your arguments:
there’s no direct evidence in the sources confirming that other rebel leaders were physically with Bolotov at the time of the attack. The Ukrainian government denied responsibility, and conflicting narratives—some suggesting the explosion’s cause was unclear—complicate the picture. While Bolotov’s statement implies other leaders might have been present or targeted, the lack of specific details leaves it uncertain whether they were actually in the building during the strike.
the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area, resulting in eight civilian deaths, raises serious concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions. If Ukrainian forces failed to verify the absence of civilians or chose indiscriminate means knowing the risks (which we know they did – mikel), the attack could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
The civilian deaths and attack’s execution suggest a violation of IHL principles, but legal accountability would require further scrutiny by a competent authority, such as the International Criminal Court
And again, all of these incriminating statements by Grok against Ukraine are assuming your speculation that a “meeting of rebel leaders” was indeed taking place. But in reality there is no reliable information that this ever happened. This is Grok’s direct answer to this matter:
what solid evidence is there that there was a meeting of rebel leaders in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian Air Force airstrike on June 2, 2014?
The Kremlin Noviop are afraid of the army, have been since Lebed (they murdered him, Rokhlin (they murmured him) and Kvachkov (they imprisoned him). Interestingly, Rokhlin was of Jewish descent, but in my book he comes as close as can be to what a Russian patriot would act like, sad that he got liquidated.
https://twitter.com/Linda254293851/status/1915296291644379637
Best cartoon ever!
Zelko is too small a fish to blame it on. He only popped up late in the game in 2019. Ukraine Project was embraced by almost every leader in the West for the last 10-15 years and in US-UK longer. Based on their own words even seeming moderates like Merkel and Hollande were supportive.
Inside NATO they argued tactics and timing but the strategy to corner Russia via Ukraine was never questioned. Russia knows this – and that has mind-boggling consequences. Basically NATO was doing its best to shrink, divide, even eliminate Russia as an independent state within its borders. There is no other explanation that fits what we know. NATO was not in Ukraine to “defend” itself and sloganeering about Ukie supposed virtues is not worth a response.
Russia finally moved – first in Crimea-Donbas, then the war – and the Ukie Project fell apart. It’s very hard – too many powerful people were involved and there is zero trust. Making a deal is still preferable to any alternative. But because NATO’s motivation was kept from the public and normal pluralist discussion was suppressed any deal will inevitably be seen as a surrender to Russia. This is unusual, in the past West allowed different views preserving more space when things went badly. Nobody will want to touch it and Trump may walk away.
We may be underestimating how bad the situation is.
I have never seen anyone on this forum bringing AP to change his mind.
Nice try though…
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This guy has experiments that prove (in his mind) cancer does not come from gene mutations in cell nuclei.
1. If you transplant healthy nuclei into cancer cells the offspring are cancer.
2. If you transplant healthy mitochondria into cancer cells the offspring are healthy.
3. If you transplant cancer nuclei into healthy cells the offspring are healthy.
4. If you transplant cancer cell mitochondria into healthy cells the offspring are cancer.
He is rather insistent the word to describe these results is proof. He has some anecdotal human patients results claims also. I don’t know but I think it’s interesting. He is a college biology professor.
If he wants all of us to get sun on our balls I missed that part.
“Geographically given the un-passable mountains of that region it is very difficult to move around and destabilize the countries there.”
It’s not that hard, the US via Pakistan armed the Taliban’s predecessors against the Russian-backed Afghan government.
As Churchill put it “campaigning on the Indian frontier is an experience unlike anywhere else”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/24/india-pakistan-summons-kashmir-attack
India has apparently ordered all Pakistani nationals to leave the country within 72 hours
I guess it’s true, Saturday mornings are really different at your house!
Maybe gypsies can’t afford to show their kids Wile E. Coyote and Daffy Duck.
I’m not going to bother asking Grok about Netanyahu so no need for you to get involved. But if you want to join forces with AP to defend Poroshenko, go ahead please. Further confirmation of all my points.
Geopolitical Comedy
This is what passes off as competent foreign policy analysis:
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/recognizing-russias-crimea-occupation-would-be-a-disaster
Excerpt
Nothing about preventing the reality that Crimea was, is and will more than likely remain Russian. Nothing is said on how to go about changing that. A process which would no doubt be quite bloody. There’s also the matter of NATO member Turkey having control over what does and doesn’t enter the Black Sea from the west.
Let’s not further fritter away American greatness by engaging recklessly idiotic punditry.
The other day I was chatting with a Mexican acquaintance. He came the US in his early 20s and has lived here more than half of his life. He told me that Mexicans are much more racist towards each other than Americans and gave me some details that I had no idea about. He said that the most racist Mexicans are the Chihuahuans and that he can recognize them immediately. They are taller and whiter than other Mexicans and like dressing cowboy-style clothes, especially on Sundays. They look down on all other Mexicans.
He was surprised to learn that in Spain, Italy and Europe in general there is a north-south cline, with people in the north looking down on their southern neighbors because he said that that is exactly what happens in Mexico as well. I have been to Yucatan a couple of times and the natives there are almost pigmy size with very dark skin. By contrast, some Mexicans I’ve seen here loading their trucks at Home Depot were barely distinguishable from Anglos, if they weren’t speaking in Mexican Spanish with some darker compatriot. It’s easy to think of Mexicans as a uniform group of mestizos but the regional differences in physical appearance in Mexico are probably larger than anything you find in Europe.
Having said that, it was probably best that the US stopped expanding at the Rio Grande. Baja is a different matter though. Beautiful deserts, mountains and beaches, including a tropical stripe just a couple of hours away from Utah by plane (or a couple of days by car). In the long run everyone would have benefited from that peninsula coming under the rule of a civilized and prosperous country.
If it works UK should try it…
This claim really needs much more proof than you’re willing or able to provide.
Containment and deterrence is not the same as “shrink, divide, even eliminate” the actual Russian Federation in its borders of 1991 (including Ichkeria). In fact, this invasion may have done more than anything to create this kind of a thinking (most in Europe do not want Russia to exist in the current form – as an aggressive, entitled invader).
That NATO came to RF’s borders simply means that RF has to tolerate the presence of NATO on its borders (and this was second rate NATO, without proper armaments in the bordering states), just like those around RF have had to tolerate the presence of an aggressive Russia and even RF on their borders. That’s just life. There are many states that exist side by side that are heavily armed.
RF never offered another type of relationship because they were threatening even after 1918 and then after 1991. Even without the US within NATO, this would be the case (if it wasn’t for NATO, there would be a different European defense union, the type we will see soon, hopefully), even more so possibly. You believe there should be finlandization of half of Europe, just because RF has delusions of grandeur and doesn’t want to be friendly to her immediate neighbors, that is way too much to ask after 1991 and especially now when the world has changed so much.
This is what I warned you about yesterday – if you don’t respect countries’ borders, and start anarchy (the way the US just started by trying to wreck the international order by forcing Ukraine to recognize Crimea as de iure Russian), everyone who has sleeping conflicts will notice and get incentivized, and this chaos will spread across the world. There was nothing going on in Kashmir for ages.
Is Musk employing some poor turdworlders to type those answers in the name of mighty AI overlods?;)
UA army simply didn’t have any precise weaponry in 2014 at all, so only relatively swift 2022-2023 style Western military aid (HIMARS, US/EU guided bombs kits etc) would have prevented widespread civilian harm then.
That’s how I see myself as well. I think the best possible way of promoting the wellbeing and empowerment of Balto-Slavic peoples at large is to boot out the parasitic Noviops, disengage from all non-Balto-Slavic led alliances and concentrate on the economic, demographic, social and scientific/technological advancement of our folk (at large) in a confederation of Balto-Slavic countries in which every country would have an equal say regardless of its size or demographic situation. Obviously that would not make any sense if Russians are excluded. If we want to put everyone on the same level, we would reconstruct a Balto-Slavic language predating the split and would use it as an official language of international communication, while national languages would be used in every given country.
I agree that the invasion is wrong, I have never defended the invasion quite the opposite. Where we differ is that I also see everything that led to the invasion as also wrong. I don’t see Ukrainians as innocent, while I also do see Russians as guilty. That’s where my argument about both sides being guilty comes from.
Can you find a single example of me defending the invasion?
You know that I didn’t say anything positive about it.
However, I don’t see Ukrainian policies that led to the conflict as insignificant. I think that there is a direct causal link between the way post-Soviet Ukraine chose to define itself, the crisis it ended facing, the civil war that derived from this crisis and the Russian intervention/invasion that followed. Negative causes lead to negative consequences. As simple as that.
ROTFL — You just don’t get it…. AI is neither authoritative nor convincing.
Ask your AI if Russia committed a “war crime” in its recent attack: (1)
Be sure to include the fact that an apartment building was hit. And, there is no evidence that a military target was in the building.
If you phrase the input like your previous prompts, the AI will declare that it is likely a “war crime”.
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The problem with you social idealism is that it does not deal well with reality.
How does a military mission happen? Flag staff give orders to senior staff who pass that down to more junior officers. Using the available information that becomes a set of targets who are sent to the line shooters who actually run the mission.
Why was an apartment building hit? Could it be:
• Bad intelligence on who was there?
• Transcription error passed the wrong building to the shooters?
• Coding error sent the weapons to the incorrect location?
• Weapon malfunctioned and randomly hit something?
• Defense had a partial intercept that dropped the incoming early?
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You may not be able to grasp this, but…
Bad things happen in war, which is why it should be avoided.
However, there are all sorts of issues that are not “war crimes”.
Excessive ideological purity is a vice, not a virtue.
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(1) https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-launches-huge-attack-kyiv-donald-trump-squeezes-volodymyr-zelenskyy/
Recently, some steps have been made to lower the tensions between India and China. Given that Indian controlled Kashmir insurgents have historically been supported by Pakistan, and that Pakistan is basically a Chinese client state (yeah I know a capitalist third world country heavily influenced by Islamism is basically a client state of an officially communist country), any violence between India and Pakistan entails tensions between China and India. Especially that China also controls some Kashmiri territory, and that India considers it an occupation. The best thing would be to make whole of Kashmir an independent country, but of course it ain’t going to happen. And yeah ISIS-K are best used there, now that the Tahrir As Sham throat cutters have taken over in Syria, ISIS is no longer needed in the MENA. OTOH it could be very useful to destabilize Central Asia. Kashmir is probably the best place to start the destabilization.
surely, it was shot on the studio lot, with some stock footage thrown in? Hard to come up with prewar films shot on location. The only one I can think of is Gunga Din. Still, one must admire their thrift, and the craftmanship of combining the footage.
Anyway, thanks for the recommendation. I have always appreciated these Asian detective stories – though I think I prefer Mr. Moto to Chan because Moto is slightly sinister (though a good guy.) – the sense of other is greater, whereas Charlie Chan comes across a bit too cutesy. Like he is foreign, but that they are trying to promote xenophilia and make it American.
i have seen a Chan movie or two before, but I couldn’t say the titles. I don’t remember ever watching a Moto one, but I have read many of the stories – they were written by a Pulitzer winner. Pulps, but well-written as far as they go.
>110 years ago, but Franck said that visitors would think that the city stunk, but that was only because they couldn’t compare it to other Central American cities and appreciate what Uncle Sam had done to it.
Are you asking for a confession from NATO? Something like: “actually all the eastward expansion, Ukraine-in-NATO, missile bases in Poland-Romania, we did it to intimidate Russia and to be close to the core Russian territory so in a future crisis (that we can provoke) we can pounce and finally dismember Russia. And by the way, we hate them, they are sub-human…” Even the Nazis never confessed like that, they always talked around issues and pretended. Look it up, they denied everything even what was on film.
Human motivation is impossible to know, outsiders can’t read our minds. But we have what people do, how they act, what they prioritize. Based on that there is no other explanation for what NATO has been doing. But you won’t get a confession. It’s another case of you asking for the biggest rock because nobody can lift it…
No, I’m asking you for actual proof where NATO wanted to “shrink, divide, eliminate” the Russian Federation in its borders of 1991. What you quoted above, is not a real quote. Show me actual proof where the likes of Merkel or Obama wanted to “divide” the RF? Putin was bullying Merkel for years.
Especially where the whole perimeter near RF was less armed than RF at the time (and still might be). Does feeding the RF with billions of oil and gas money for decades qualify as destroying RF?
Now Trump is going out of his way to save and even bolster the RF – the RF are very close to exhaustion, the American cannot allow Russia to collapse. It’s not new, they did this already in the late 19th century when American ships brought in food to the starving Russians.
Except if it’s kosher Zionism…
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IslamoBuddhism is the absolute worst.
Only such a twisted philosophy equally blames a 10 month old kidnap victim and the kidnapper. All religions that have a realistic view of the universe understand that an infant is innocent.
Excessive ideological purity is a vice, not a virtue.
PEACE 😇
Yes, that’s it. Kashmiri thugs immediately struck and some were overheard saying ‘if Crimea is not Ukraine these Indians are going to get it!’ Anarchy spawns more anarchy, there was also the earthquake in Istanbul. Coincidence? Sure, if you are a sucker…
What we have in the world today is increased dystopia. You are right it feeds on itself. But who really started it? Is there such a thing as a beginning? If I have to pick the original trigger it would be the mad NATO bombing of Serbia…you are free to choose something else. But we know it wasn’t Trump or related to Russia…
I know of at least one scifi writer that envisioned American tech entrepreneurs moving to Baja to escape American decline and the dramatic growth of crime, political correctness, and the welfare state.
There probably should be a line of Augustus – otherwise south of the border might be filled with blacks and Indians by now. (Actually, I think Mexico is having increasing problems with black American tourists now.) The birth cohorts of the border states seem especially bad.
I have heard some of them say that they test pure Amerind DNA. They also resent the typical Hollywood depiction of Mexico as an arid place.
Sort of a tangent, but when travel writer Harry Franck was in Columbia, he noted that they had a surprisingly active literary community, with a large number of literati published – though in tissue paper and of questionable merit. He seemed to attribute it to the geographic isolation of some of those cities – not then fully connected by trains. And it made me think about AP and his promotion of the baroque music of Latin America. Maybe, there was some analogous factor of isolation leading to more local cultural production. A lot of it seems to have been about local social status. Like, they were striving because their ambitions weren’t crushed by being exposed to superior stuff imported from elsewhere.
You are hopeless, you repeat your platitudes. If you want a proof of motivation look at what NATO did – is there any other rational explanation? There are papers published by security advisors and think tanks that say that Russia needs to be “divided”, “weakened” or “decentralized” – RAND wrote this, German security advisors, and of course Brits have stated this as a goal all the way back in the 1830’s.
But Merkel or Obama? No. Do you think people are stupid? NATO placed missiles on Russia’s border, staged a coup in Ukraine (twice), got Georgia to attack Ossetia, run a demonization campaign against anything Russian 7-by-24 for years….and you are asking for a statement admitting it? Really?
Provide an alternative explanation of all those actions. Saying it was about “more freedom” doesn’t count. Save that for the dumbos, they may even applaud you…
Hasn’t it occurred to you that another way of preventing widespread civilian harm was to NOT strafe a square full of civilians with an area attack warplane? If your surgeon doesn’t have a scalpel should he use a chainsaw to remove that wart from your nose?
According to the CIA this is a Russian paranoid fantasy.
https://www.voanews.com/a/siberia-madeleine-albright-/6741434.html
https://www.prospera.co/en
I thought the leftwing in Honduras had crushed that? Or have the sword of Damocles hanging over it.
I see you’re behind the curve in AI adoption but it’s OK, you’ll adapt like everyone else.
Russia’s attack last night most likely was a war crime for all the same reasons detailed by Grok about the Lugansk attack but there is a reason why I never asked Grok directly if such or such an action was a war crime. Review my careful wording. Grok will never directly tell you if an action not yet judged is a crime and I wouldn’t like it to think that it can. We’re not yet at a stage where LLMs can take over the role of a court. Even in such a clear case as the Lugansk attack a proper investigation with full guarantees for all parties should take place before a firm verdict can be reached.
At the current stage of the technology AI systems are extremely useful and reliable but you need to know what to ask. Used appropriately, they do provide a much more intelligent output than any human can and they keep getting better.
Hah! They are probably going to England, flown in by Starmer.
The most recent updates I saw were it depends who you ask. The Bitcoin guys are still looking for their Cayman Islands. Why not Cuba? Besides all of the negroes, I mean.
Uyghurs look sharp! You are up next!
I’m holding out for SoroBuddhism. Or is it BuddhaSorosism, I’ve lost track? A123 may be about to create a new syncretic system often known as BS. 🙂
Crap. If Russia was deliberately trying to kill civilians Kiev would look like Hamburg or Dresden.
Why should they want to kill civilians?* How does that diminish the Ukrainian war effort? It doesn’t.
What happens is that Putin throws a tantrum and attacks a city or civilian target.
He was throwing a tantrum after Ukraine hit an ammo depot that made the big boom.
Putin like a man-baby launched a ballistic missile at downtown Kiev out of revenge. He has done this before after successful attacks by Ukraine.
A bigley genius move that further humiliated Trump.
This is what the world woke up to after Trump was trying to depict Zelensky as the problem:
Now the latest rumor is that a mass execution was ordered within the Russian military……of Russian soldiers. I’m still getting the details.
This 2.5 week special operation is going just bigley. Was a super fantastic idea.
Russia’s global image has never been better.
The big one to hold out for is BashiSoroism. It will define BS for all time.
PEACE 😇
I see that you are a leader in sacrificing free will to AI. Ultimately that will not go well for you… But OK… You are behind the curve on independent thought.
Why are you lying for Führer Zelensky?
I gave a lengthy list of potential explanations where the outcome would be the result of mishap, and thus not a war crime. For your AI overlords to *prove* there is an issue, they would have to address each of them. You are letting down your electronic masters.
I am not be surprised. Harris/Walz voters, such as yourself, started with abysmally Low-IQ. Your blind acceptance of establishment AI output as a poor substitute for independent intellect is sadly predictable.
PEACE 😇
While this is a noble vision, two problems are:
1. Russia has so many more people than the other Slavic nations that they would object to a situation in which they would have d as much power as, say, Lithuania or Slovakia. And they would have a point in that.
2. Noviops seem to be an essential phenomenon in Russian political culture.
3. Governments led from Moscow have killed so many Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts that these people are simply unwilling to live together with Russians.
The solution would seem to be, that Russia would be on its own and to have the others form such a union. Maybe after a generation or two has passed one will be able to speak of some other arrangement.
Correct.
Agree and I hope you have t agent gotten the idea that I claimed otherwise.
But as I stated in my earlier post to you:
Imagine a German in 1942 stating “I oppose the German invasion of Poland but I don’t view what Poland did before the war as insignificant as there is a direct causal link between Polish policies such as shutting down German schools in Poland and the invasion of Poland. Both sides are 100% guilty.” How would a Pole reasonably feel about someone like that?
Yeah, I hated the old (((witch))). But what she said about the Iraqi kids was even worse than anything she ever said about Russia. She was a demonic being. The world is a better place since she croaked.
Actually, those are marginal views. The more central and official views promote engaging with Russia and leaving it alone in the 1991 borders. There are concrete actions backing up those views. Now, some of those things, such as Germany’s reliance on Russian gas, may have been created by clandestine Russian action, for example, the FSB or other actors may have stimulated Germany to abandon nuclear energy, become complacent, etc. But overall the West played along, even when knowing full well that Russia was authoritarian. And later – expansionist, first in their rhetoric, later – in actions. Even after the annexation of Crimea nothing serious was done to counter Russia.
The West had no problem with Russia being authoritarian and intact. In fact, after 2007, Russia was heavily centralized, more so than ever before probably, that’s what Putin did.
Russia was arming, all the while Europe was disarming.
If it weren’t so, Russia would be different today. The US didn’t even want the USSR to fall apart (the “Kyiv chicken” speech, calls to Lithuanians to stop rocking the boat when they wanted to leave the USSR and such).
The missiles that were placed by Russia on Europe’s borders are very potent as well, plus they have air defense on the Western side (the Ukrainians just discovered they don’t have it on the Eastern side, even very close to Moscow).
You have been going on and on about how Russia has “dominance in the region” – clearly, given their ability to project force across a large area. But now you’re saying that Russia could’ve been “dismembered”. Well, which one is it?
Sorry, but when someone says this, it’s just not a serious conversation.
There was some interethnic conflict there that Russia provoked. It’s their MO, they do it in many places. They did it in Eastern Ukraine too. Surkov’s plan.
A lot of it was in reaction to what RF did. You think it was ok to kill all those Chechen kids in 1993?
I would actually agree with the German, the interwar Poles were hardly a « force for good ». They took a chunk out of Czechoslovakia while it was busy being invaded by Hitler. You know that Churchill called Poland of the time « the hyena of Europe ». So yeah, while German invasion was bad, and Soviet one was not better, the Poles had it coming big time.
Is it true that Balts made the best Chernobyl liquidators because Neanderthal introgression hardened them to radiation? (jk)
https://www.livescience.com/health/genetics/ancient-dna-and-modern-genomes-can-reveal-stories-of-past-peoples-from-the-iron-age-to-chernobyl-geneticist-says
Well, did she ever say it or not?
Even if she did say it (which seems to be hard to prove) and even if some may think this (and btw there is reason to think this both about Russia and in fact the US as well since both of these are colonial nations), the US continued to “deter” (and not even fully, the NATO forces in Eastern Europe were small compared to what RF has/had – deliberately so!) but prop up the Russian Federation.
If the US had wanted, in 1991, it would have allowed the Russian Federation to collapse entirely. At that time even Tatarstan and Bashkortostan wanted to leave and they were going to starve if food wasn’t delivered from the West. The oil price, too, could’ve been kept low for a much longer time.
Reminds me of this song, which is now ruined for me after I made the connection. You lot are probably not up for crass and crunchy hair glam pop metal, but that’s OK. If you use your imagination you can even fit the lyrics to the situation…sort of. I don’t know if Miss Fox has any connection with Mrs. Albright. The second one is to bring balance to the Universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3nQ0MffBXY
Well, he was against the invasion (is this now the crown of humanism, to be against invasions, I thought that would be a given?) but he just recently stated that South Eastern Ukraine rightfully belongs to Russia and should’ve been given to Russia in 1991.
And that includes lands that are majority Ukrainian and historically Ukrainian such as Zapo and Kherson. And in Donbas there was an ethnic cleansing of those Ukrainians who lived there prior to 2022. Is this ok?
Crimea, too, ofc – no dout he believes Crimea should be Russian.
This is exactly what the likes of Zhirik used to say.
What percentage of the RF population holds these views?
p.s. Sorry to interfere in your convo.
Let’s see, the Russians launched 70 long range missiles at a high population density urban area (reportedly 3 million people), at least 20 missiles got through and several people were killed (the recent number is “several”, down from 12). If the Russians are going after the civilians they are not very good at it. Maybe they aimed all the missiles at the river to scare the fish. Or perhaps they are dropping leaflets. That might make some sense.
Are Bell Beaker and Corded Ware (and their descendents) doomed to fight each other for all eternity based on their “antagonistic” skull morphology?
https://twitter.com/Paracelsus1092/status/1915458292018532749
Actually Grok concluded that the evidence was mixed, not that “all the evidence pointed at a war crime.”
You quoted selectively. You forgot these parts:
1. **Legitimate Target?**
– The Luhansk administration building was under LPR control and used for military and administrative purposes by separatist forces. Bolotov, as a rebel leader, and potentially other leaders, were likely directly participating in hostilities, making them lawful targets under IHL.
– If the building served as a command center or was used for military operations, it could qualify as a military objective, even if it retained some civilian functions. The presence of rebel leaders strengthens this argument, as targeting high-value commanders is permissible if they contribute to military action.
A war crime requires intent to target civilians or reckless disregard for civilian consequences. Bolotov’s claim that the strike was an assassination attempt suggests Ukraine targeted rebel leaders, not civilians. However, if Ukraine knew civilians were likely to be harmed and proceeded regardless, this could constitute recklessness.
– Ukraine’s denial of responsibility and conflicting narratives (e.g., suggesting separatist staging) complicate assessing intent. No definitive evidence shows deliberate targeting of civilians, but the attack’s execution raises questions about due care.
It’s not “my speculation.” It’s the statement by the rebel leader himself. He said that he was there, as were other leaders.
His direct statement may not be corroborated by other sources, but it is not disproven either. Indeed there is no solid evidence that he lied.
Grok:
Valery Bolotov stated that he and other rebel leaders were present in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building on June 2, 2014 when it was attacked by the Ukrainian Air Force. What solid evidence is there that Bolotov’s claim of being in the building was false.
“There is no definitive, publicly available evidence that conclusively disproves Valery Bolotov’s claim of being present in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian Air Force attack on June 2, 2014. The available sources, including news reports, Wikipedia entries, and other accounts from the time, do not explicitly address Bolotov’s precise whereabouts at the moment of the attack or provide concrete documentation (e.g., eyewitness testimony, video footage, or official records) that directly contradicts his statement”
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So you have no proof that he lied about being in the building with other rebel leaders. There may not be corroboration of his statement, but neither is there refutation.
Mikel,
Do you know that your precious AI overlords now control air travel? (1)
Your willingness to relinquish rights to AI is deeply problematic.
Vance is tied to Palantir. Is this why you passionately support him?
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/24/biometrics-active-a-weird-thing-happened-returning-through-airport/
He stated that the people of southeastern Ukraine should have decided themselves to join Russia and that they are karmically punished for not having done so. It’s not the same as stating that they should have been given to Russia (against their will), or that Russia should have administered the karmic punishment by invading their lands.
Although he views the victim and criminal as equally culpable for the crime, he opposes the crime.
A different category from actually celebrating or supporting the crime as people like Gerard do and not monstrous as that, but still not good at all.
AFAIK most people in the RF actually support the invasion. They are worse than Bashi.
Your “intrusions” are always welcome!
Кто спорит с женщиной, тот уменьшает своё долголетие.
Прежде чем спорить с женщиной надо решить хотим ли мы быть правы или предпочитаем остаться счастливы ?
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I have friends in Moskvabad who are against the war since day one. They consider it extremely unwise and unethical. It doesn’t mean they would ever support Ukraine. The same friends consider Maidan the epitome of stupidity and would oppose any tentative of Maidan in RF because they survived the 90ies and remember the hell it was back then. They don’t want RF to go through an even worse situation, they understand the risks. That’s actually one of the reasons why they oppose this war.
Well, the issue then is that many of them wanted to stay within Ukraine. The Donbas population is not the whole of SE Ukraine, but a specific phenomenon. They’re a bit like a mix of a colonial land (there were even Belgians and Mennonites there once), steppe Cossacks and Russians. Then after 1917 heavily ravaged but also industrialized, with a somewhat artificial but heavily Soviet identity maintained well into the 1990s.
I misunderstood then, since I thought he said that ALL of SE Ukraine should’ve been incorporated into the newly founded Russian Federation in 1991.
Re: your other comment.
If one only counts Russians themselves (the ethnos that is a mix of Slavs, Balts and Finno Ugrics), then they are roughly comparable in numbers with the others taken together or at least they do not dominate as heavily. The reason why the Muscovy are so much more powerful is because they’ve exploited a lot of other ethnicities or aligned those ethnicities with their goals, and they have drawn heavily from other Slavs such as Ukrainians by assimilating them.
They also gang up with alien ethnic groups (Jews, Germans, Caucasians, now trying to gang up with Americans) against Poles, Ukrainians and Balts. This is how they try to gain advantage and the upper hand and sometimes succeed. They can’t help themselves.
When they act like ethnonats and not velikoderzhavniks, then they’re ok and nobody minds them. I’m not saying they have to, because to be like ethnonats would mean giving up a lot of what they have achieved (or managed to invade / colonize in the past).
The problem is not just the Noviops, the majority of the Russian population themselves believe they are special, their culture (which is in fact largely created by Euros or partial Euros) is better and the others should submit to them. They can’t give that up and be one among many.
What does that even mean…
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Here is the quote by Bashi, of course, interpret as you wish:
There is no such thing as Novorossia, of course, but what is understood by Novorossia is a very large part of Ukraine, most of which is historically Ukrainian, if you look closer.
Haha, what has been said, cannot be unsaid. 🙂
This? Dude, this is like if Germany said today that “Livonia should be made part of Germany” in 2025. LOL And btw that’s just administrative division (there were such in the Russian Empire), most of those people spoke Ukrainian, especially before the Holodomor. Namely, it was all ethnic Ukrainian territory.

Please explain where is the name of Ukraine, which means “at the border (fringe) of a country”, came from…the country was Russia. Same DNA and noticeable Russian accent.
What matters most is the ethnicity and ethnicity wise, Ukrainians spread even wider than now.
As to names, various names have been used about various nations at different times, however, there is an enormous amount of material out there – Ukraine is Rus’.
Muscovy and Tartaria are other entities. It’s all out there, old maps, chronicles, etc.
So before the Holodomor, the so called Novorossia was majority Ukrainan speaking?
No,it comes from kraina (land). It’s from the chronicle that said “The whole country sighed”. The country, in the chronicle, was Ukrainian land.
What you see on this map is an amazing lie.
For many centuries, Russia had a huge problem – the Crimean economy was based on the slave trade. The Krymchaks obtained slaves by attacking the border regions of Russia. Ukrainians from the base regions of Ukraine often helped them in this. The area around Crimea has been cleared of any population. Later, they were inhabited by people from a wide variety of places. In the 17th century, there was a so-called Ruin in Ukraine, when there was a stratification into magnates, Cossack bandits and ordinary peasants. It is clear that ordinary people did not like bandits very much.
But the spirit of that legendary bandit society still lingers in Ukraine and delights some.
Financial Times
“What happens is that Putin throws a tantrum and attacks a city or civilian target.”
He’s a busy guy, isn’t he, controlling attacks AND running the country?
Rule 13 – “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals#The_Rules
I would keep including the USA as a Western contributor to the chaos in Ukraine as well.
Is it true that the Poles have drafted a bill to make it easier for Indians in Poland to get pensions by adding the number of years worked in India?
And were they bribed by Indians? Who would think this a good idea?
https://twitter.com/PoleConnection/status/1915377287257538723
There is such a thing as Novorossia and it was used even before most Southern Rus / Rusyns / Malo-Rusy ended up self-identifying as Ukrainians starting from around mid-nineteen hundred. BTW, interestingly enough the Galicians started self-identifying as Ukrainians even later, about a generation or two later by the end of the nineteenth century and in the early twentieth century up to WWI. So in a sense, Novorossia exited before what is now Ukraine became known under that name which is really derived from the word border = okraina.
In all the documents of the Haydamak uprising, and the Ruyna (the ensuing destruction of Polish – Lithuanian Southern-Rusyn lands), the inhabitants of that land are described as Rusyns and Cossacks. In the earliest Miskovite documents, Cossacks are described as Cherkassy / Cherkessy – Circassians. The word Cossack itself is of Turkic origin with the same etymology as the Japanese word Ronin, that is a warrior without a master. Rusyns and Cossacks were not the same, Cossacks were the warrior caste of multiethnic origin (Christian Circassian, Rusyn Slav, Christian Turkic), while Rusyns were the Rus-descended people (mostly peasants, but also nobility) that came under the power of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth after the Mongol invasion destroyed their lands and they were easily conquered by the Lithuanians.
So neither the Cossacks, nor the peasants or nobility of that region self-identified as Ukrainians when Russian Empire started its expansion towards the Azov and Black seas. And the territory conquered during that expansion (which took more than a hundred years to complete) is what was called by the Russian Imperial government Novorossia. It does not include what is nowadays called « left bank Ukraine » (левобережная Украина). Basically, it is Donbas, Kherson and Odessa plus Crimea. Zaporozhye was Cossack when the Russians moved in.
Every time I hear or read anyone writing about the « centuries old » historical Ukraine, I understand that the person is either an ideologically motivated Ukrainian nationalist or a Western proponent of the modern day Ukrainian state. You are not an Ukrainian nationalist and you are not Western, so what is the deal with you peddling propaganda?
It is not an amazing lie, it is a banal disinformation. Our Baltic friend is misbehaving because this war has turned her into a rabid Russophobe. Given that she has this typical streak of stubborn quiet radicalism that is often found among the Baltic folks (of both Balto-Slav and Fenno-Ugric stock) with the added ability to adapt completely different narratives when it suits her best (a typically feminine tactic), she is now tenaciously peddling propaganda denying that Rusyns of modern day Ukraine and Moscovite Russians are originally one people. The goal is to further divide these two branches of the Eastern Slavs and diminish the overall positive influence of the Russian Empire on the modern day territory of Ukraine (excluding Western Ukraine).
Also, she looks for a way to accuse me of Russian imperialism, because in her current twisted mental representation any Russian is by definition an imperialist and a colonizer. She’s parroting the decolonization narratives used by Third World thinkers and applies it to the Russian-Ukrainian interactions. She does not realize (typical Baltic lack of finesse) that in her narrative she assigns to the Ukrainians the same role some Māori, Apachee or Zulu plays in the narrative of decolonization peddled by the postmodern leftists. A normal Ukrainian would have none of that nonsense.
Anyway, LatW is peddling globalist decolonization/anti-imperialist tropes, quite amusing coming from someone who spent years on this forum as an Ethnonat / White Power far right poster.
La donna e mobile…
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And what about those who meddle in the affairs of people, who aren’t even their neighbours.
Who will stop them? If no one, then the conflict will reignite.
There needs to be a permanent solution.
The US (((Neocon))) are the prime investigators of the Ukrainian mess, their ancestors are oftentimes traced back to the pale of settlement and they have an axe to grind with Eastern Slavs that used to unleash pogrom violence on their tribe. So seeing Russians and Ukrainians killing each others is probably a pleasant experience for these sociopaths.
Well written, if you weren’t an East Slav it be a high status comment. 😉
If it was vice-versa would you see that way? Major government advisors and analysts publishing open calls to encourage separatist uprisings in Quebec, US South West, Scotland, etc…? Inviting them to conferences, giving “scholarships”…USAid spent $50 billion a year of tax money, EU added $20 billion – large part was in or about Russia. If Russia was doing it would you say it’s marginal.
The official view is not what countries obsessed with security – Russia and the West both are – pay attention to. They are suspicious and the fact that the “central” views accepted the crazy actions by what you call the “marginals” is what decides the response. The media demonization of Russia for 10-20 years now couldn’t be by the “marginals”, that’s simply impossible.
NATO spends 10 times more on military than Russia. Your Russia “rearming” is on its face nonsense.
Greens are Russia’s agents? Baerbock? And you seem really sane…:) Russian energy and Euro needs are a perfect business fit – nobody had to create it.
No, I said that some idiots close to power in the West wanted to dismember and weaken Russia. I don’t think it will work, but morons will be morons.
And a lot of it wasn’t and preceded any Russia’s actions. It’s a simple story and the facts are all there if you are open-minded. Bush’s “chicken” speech is irrelevant – external PR, Bush was a the head of CIA, you don’t trust it from others, why are you so trusting about Western speeches? Does the West have a reliable history of not lying, attacking, starting wars? Answer it honestly, do they?
Certainly some people in Russia oppose the war, but support there was at around 70% last time I checked the polls and there is no significant opposition to the war. And even many of those who oppose the war, such as your friends, do not support the victim of the Russian invasion either.
This hero is a brave exception:
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1915394711151403269?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg
They stage the wars so they can claim “refuge status”. I once literally heard that logic from a middle class Brazilian – “we vote for Lula so we can claim asylum“. I suspect it was the motivation for many on the Maidan…”look we are now suffering, give us visas and aid!!!”
It’s the logic of cargo cults. It inevitably gets abused once the West sets up the rules…Good luck, but I think they are coming.
And, I will keep taking it back out. Look at the recent history.
• Trump’s 1st term yielded little for Ukraine. There was only one package over $100MM. It was rooted in domestic, not foreign, policy. Trump needed it to beat back the now debunked impeachment threat.
• Europe bought the Ukraine graft franchise from Team Biden. They used the U.S. as their proxy by giving The Big Guy his 10%. No one detected any leadership from the prior White House occupant.
• Trump’s 2nd term is pushing towards disengagement. To prevent issues here at home, it has to be done gracefully avoiding an Afghanistan “Cut & Run” withdrawal fiasco. Trump is attempting to serve as a “broker” trying to help Russia and Europe/Ukraine reach terms. if Europe continues to be unreasonable, they will have to come up with the funding and pay for it themselves.
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Yes. You can find genuine U.S. trouble making back in the Obama administration. Everyone knows the name Victoria Nuland. That was mostly *then*, a decade ago.
Those wanting to solve the problem *now*, would be well served to focus on the bad actors *now*. Where is the big money coming from going forwards? Not America. The appropriation for direct offensive support looks to be $0.00.
The large sums will be from Germany, France, and the UK. Führer Zelensky is the puppet of these Globalist European states. That implies that understanding the *current* issues requires focus on Merz, Macron, and Starmer. Trump cannot stop the fighting, only they can.
PEACE 😇
Stop seeing a Jewish angle in every problem… 😉
The bulk of the pro-war shills serve IslamoGloboHomo.
PEACE 😇
Agreed, but I think that there are also others in the US establishment who were all too fired up to capitalize on the Ukraine project. Hawks like Biden himself, and Lindsey Graham for instance. Trump sometimes seems to view doubling down on war as a way to peace. The whole thing is a mess of naivety, cynicism and opportunism. None of the Western leaders will face consequences themselves, despite often being bad actors and incompetent advisors.
I get what A123 is saying and I understand the need to separate Trump from the Ukraine project, and it makes sense as a way to potentially end the war. Seeing is believing though, and it’s weird to think that a change of management has to suffice as explanation for a belligerent party to just suddenly want to impose peace.
Two sides of the same coin.
John 2:13-16
Come on, you are too smart to be entranced by word games.
This should be written, “started calling themselves Ukrainians.”
Because they recognized themselves to be a separate people from Moskals (their traditional word for Russians) centuries before they started to call themselves Ukrainians. When they still called themselves Rusyns or Rusnaks, they called the Russians Moskali, viewed the Moskali as foreigners and enemies, and went to war against them. This began as far back as the late 15th century – 300 years after old Rus had split up.
It was as Malo Rusy that writers from Ukraine described Russians as a Mongolized and savage people.
So don’t believe the useful (to Russian nationalists) but false idea that until the self-description “Ukrainians” was widely adopted in the late 19th century these people did not have their own history, language and culture that was different from that of Russians are or seen as part of the Russian one.
The Cossacks in southern Ukraine were overwhelmingly Rus people. This can be inferred by the biographies of those who are known. There were some, but not many, Turks or other non-Slavs among them. The Cossacks adopted some steppe ways in the manner that Anglo frontier men adopted Native American ways but that doesn’t make American frontier men like Daniel Boone some kind of mestizos as you claim Ukrainian Cossacks were.
The most famous Zaporizhian leaders were Sahaidachny (a Galician), Khmlenytsky (born in Kiev region), and the founder of the Sitch Dmytro Vyshnevetsky, a magnate of Rurikid origins born in his family’s Volhynian estate in western Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Vyshnevetsky
Lower ranking ones whose biographies are known have similar backgrounds. The Zaporizhian Cossack who introduced the Viennese to coffee, Yuri Kulchytski, was a Galician:
https://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CK%5CU%5CKulchytskyYuriiFrants.htm
Basically the lower Cossacks were runaway Rus serfs from Ukraine, and their officers were adventurous Rus nobles from Ukraine. There may have been some exotic elements among them, particularly at the very beginning, but those were exceptions.
Nor did they identify as Moskals, Great Russians, Russians (different words for the same people).
Rusyns or Rusnaks, the old word for Ukrainians, is no more Russian than Romanian is Italian (Roman) or Romansch (a small ethnic group in southern Switzerland who speak their own Latin-derived language).
I think that “peddling propaganda” can also be applied to spreading claims that Ukrainians thought of themselves as Russians, as this is understood today, before they adopted the name Ukrainians. I use quotes because I think you don’t view it as propaganda, your attachment to Russia causes you to sincerely hooks this non-realistic belief.
Tried to get grok to classify the shape of different celebrities’ skulls. It failed miserably and kept begging off that it didn’t have exact measurements.
His quote began with the Galician choice so it seemed clear to me that he was referring to a choice made by SE Ukrainians.
I agree with him that they made a mistake but their mistake was in not fully joining the West, and preventing Ukraine from integrating with EU and NATO. They wanted to pursue a middle path and as a result are getting slaughtered by Putin’s forces.
Had they joined Russia in 1991 they would have been spared the slaughter, and would simply have been approvals corrupt backwater of the Russian state. Had they not prevented Ukraine’s westward integration, they not my would have been spared the slaughter but would have been part of a wealthier Visegrad style country such as their western neighbors Poland and Romania.
Instead they chose to seperate from Russia and also to prevent Ukraine from joining the west, instead wallowing in native corruption and holding Ukraine back for 25 years.
And in the end, Russia came to bomb and ruin their cities, to kill and rape their people, to drive them into exile.
It almost never does, management is there to implement agreed on policies. Trump is different, let’s see if he can do it. Another motivation is that the Ukraine project (NATO) has so obviously failed and to continue it is to nobody’s benefit. But there are dead-enders in almost all positions of power and it may not work. The most likely scenario if Trump gives up is that Ukraine eventually collapses. But it could also go to nukes.
Why is it that no participant of this blogsite has ever shown even the smallest modicum of support for your very unique “IslamoGlobalHomo” theories? Whenever you bring it up, most just cringe at the sheer idiocy of it all. 🙁
I get that Trump seems to want peace, but that does not change the fact that the lion’s share of military aid including intelligence given to Ukraine came from the US. The proof lies burning on battlefields, and still causes death and destruction, no matter what Trump’s intentions are.
Besides that I would still rather wait for actual peace before getting my hopes up, rumours are swirling and plans often go wrong.
I stay white-pilled on nukes, I don’t believe they will be used because of the risks, and if I’m wrong then it probably won’t matter anyway.
If Ukraine gets it’s US help cut off Europe probably won’t be much help except to drag out the war a bit longer than Ukraine could manage on its own.
The other possibility that seems to be popular is Russia accepting the four oblasts as their minimum acceptable part of a peace plan. They may still have to clear the Ukrainian army off the pieces of the oblasts that they occupy I would guess.
If that spasticesque spelling of the first part of her surname is what is written on her passport……then I am Genghis-Khan. What an absurdly stupid way to type her name Hack. Is there ANYTHING more primitive than Retard-khokholisation? No way if she renews her passport do the US agencies allow that distortion of a name to be registered.
I know the west have all changed the true name of KIEV – to the nonsensical Kyiv ( the only actual “victory” of 404 since the start of the SMO) – but this is extreme excess. You and Banderetard CIA-smuggled vermin were NEVER writing or calling any mythical place of “Kyiv” well upto and past 30,40,50 years of their disgraceful arrival in North America
LMFAO – the anti-Russianianism that is the foundation for the schizophrenia of “Ukraine” is that extreme you lose focus completely to the point you openly admit this shit? ( that this astronaut’s parentage is from the retard satanic Nazi-Bandera alliance) Its like using cash with no receipts to avoid tax – surely no idiot openly admits publicly to it. “German descent” means Nazi sadist ( or sister/daughter of Nazi sadists) smuggled into America, not general German diaspora before or after that 1945-51 time.
Plast – a dumbass, inbred, loser group that produced a generation of very dumb, no-skilled, sadist-sickos and germanic-cocksuckers. Compare that disaster to how fun and life enhancing and skill-developing Pioneer camps were.
The Amish communities appear to have a dignity and authenticness to them, so its perfectly respectable the “old world” life they were having…….but this Galician fucktard stuff of “Ukrainian community” is just an embarassing fake, a fraud, zero-culture freakshow of vile people. If not for the fact this was all a cover for protecting Nazi scum…….. you would think it very cruel to have a German woman forced to live in this backwards cesspit of people and language she would not know, despite living in a big country that was the worlds richest. Normally, its bizarre to have the kid be raised as a khokhol particularly if the mother isn’t one
Thanks.
It is much more than a change in management. MAGA presents a “Once in a Century” opportunity to change the system. In the prior UniParty structure.
GOP = Wall Street, normal culture, pro-war
DNC = Labor, progressive culture, anti-war
What was a normal worker supposed to do? Both options were bad. The new structure is
MAGA = Labor, normal culture, anti-war
DNC = Wall Street, progressive culture, pro-war
All of a sudden, people have viable populist choice in MAGA. IslamoGloboHomo is useful short hand for what the DNC has to offer. American voters do not want it. The establishment is on the run as Trump is killing off their system of bribes and patronage, such as USAID.
Success is not certain, but hope has returned to America after decades of apathy. Is Trump perfect? Of course not. However, he is bludgeoning the establishment, which is desperately needed.
PEACE 😇
Ukraine is a mostly steppe area. If there was another massacre somewhere in Mongolia, then this domino wave swept across the steppe to the West.
A very specific community of people has formed in Ukraine, who lived largely by banditry and were ready to serve any of their neighbors and at the same time attack any of their neighbors. There was a huge flow of slaves from the Black Sea region to Turkey and the Mediterranean. In order to kidnap people of the same Orthodox faith and relatives by nationality, you need to have an understandable set of moral qualities and worldview.
We can now see all these qualities in many modern Ukrainians. By the way, the cruelty and moral frostbite of Ukrainians from Western Ukraine shocked even German SS officers.
Such qualities led to the fact that the Ukrainian magnates were unable to create a workable state. Ukraine, within its modern borders, is purely a gift from Lenin, Stalin and the USSR.
Will Modi nuke Birmingham in retaliation for Kashmir?
The reason why I don’t hold my breath for peace just yet is that while Russia states that it is open for negotiations it also says that it expects it’s demands to be met. Some of their conditions may be unacceptable even to Trump. Back to square one potentially, negotiations or not.
https://southfront.press/moscow-signals-readiness-for-ukraine-deal/
If Poland gets all the good Indians what does that leave for the US? While India has a lot of people, it doesn’t have that many smart people. If it did it wouldn’t be India.
Also, how many smart Indians need to leave the country before India suffers a brain drain which clearly limits her rate of progress? Maybe AI will help if they can afford the chips.
This is a free speech forum (at least so they claim) not some Russian Gulag where one “misbehaves” if they oppose some ruling doctrine (e.g., fakery).
Don’t drown in your ad hominems.
All of the South East includes many Ukrainian speaking and Ukrainian loyal areas. The predominant language was Ukrainian and places such as Hortitsya existed way before this “Novorossia” was introduced as a name (essentially an administrative term, there were such in the Empire, doesn’t mean the population was ethnically Russian).
The old guy may be a friend of Mr. Hack.
Parties do not concede key points prematurely. That leaves the item on the table for negotiation.
Trump asking for influence over ZNPP is likely made to be conceded. Why would America want responsibility for 6 reactors with similarity to the infamous one in Chernobyl?
Putin is asking for all of 4 oblasts. There are likely concessions here too. How would Russia assimilate Zaporizhzhia city? Putin could sell something similar to “current lines” as a win.
Putin knows that full demilitarization is not really obtainable. The logical requirement is heading off a buildup where Europe/Ukraine launches Round 2 some years down the road. Reasonable asks include formal neutrality, no foreign troops/bases, no NATO ever. Enforceable limits on Kiev’s offensive potential so that a sneak attack is obviously a losing proposition.
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It is clear that Europe/Ukraine is the obstacle. Führer Zelensky has not offered the slightest hope for negotiated territorial and other concessions. Europe, especially Germany, is going to dump money in. The question is, do they have the Military Industrial Capacity to fill orders?
I too am skeptical of a peace deal in the next few weeks. Kiev aggression and its European sponsors remain publicly intransigent. When they collapse the peace process, that opens the door for America to substantially disengage.
PEACE 😇
They would still dominate. Even if a pan-Baltic-Slavic Union excluded Chechens, Tatars, Buryats, etc. it would still contain ~110 million ethnic Russians (1o7 million in Russia including Crimea, a few million from Ukraine + Baltics), versus 35 million Poles + 32 million Ukrainians + 11 million, Czechs + 5 million Balts. The 10 million heavily-Russified Belarusians might be like Russians.
So it would just be another Russian Empire, which like previous ones would be owned by some non-native elite that treats its people like garbage. Russians always acquiesce to this arrangement, we don’t need it.
The solution of each nation having equal representation would solve that problem, but it would be unjust for 110 Russians to have the same representation as 3 million Lithuanians.
So although a Baltic-Slavic union would be great, it would have to exclude Russia. Fortunately, Russia has its own Eurasian ideology to draw upon. It can mix with its Tatars, Chechens, Tajiks, etc. Maybe become China’s junior partner.
And as I noted, Russians themselves have excluded themselves from any potential union with their Baltic-Slavic brothers by having murdered and brutalized so many of them over the centuries. Even southeastern Ukrainians have finally learned their lesson and most of them now want nothing to do with a Russian state.
I saw a report which explained that monthly US government and military flights to bases in Eastern Poland are the same in 2025 as the average for 2024 which implies no backing off. There was a temporary large bump in the number of flights in the fourth quarter of 2024 presumably related to the Biden departure, but the pattern is consistent over a longer time window. While the USA moved a few items out of Poland this material has been more than replaced by Norway and Germany with US equipment and intelligence.
Another report claimed the Polish government recently made it illegal for citizens to post photographs of 25,000 military or government sites in the country.
The West has been creating and pressing the Ukrainian project against Russia since 1991. This effort did not obviously slow down or accelerate in Trump 1. So far the talk is that the leading US role in this project will magically end in Trump 2. Unfortunately an adult interpretation of the recent rhetoric is that the process could easily escalate or deescalate. We simply do not know.
If NATO appears to take a leading role in this mess it is probably at the direction of the USA not in defiance. Maybe Trump will have the more northerly Western European countries send a bunch of their first born white sons to die in the borderland.
I’m sure it would be a coincidence that such a strategy directly leads to this:
THE COWARDLY DRAFT DODGING PUTLERITE HAS AWOKEN. WHO CARES?
The question is whether Mr. Hack would swim the length of the Panama Canal like Richard Halliburton did.
Another abstraction.
I came to the Belgorod region in the early 70s and was extremely surprised that I did not understand my grandmother’s language well after our family lived in the northern regions of Russia. In fact, until the middle of the 20th century, we had a lot of dialects in Russia, very smoothly merging into one another. And the Ukrainian language can be considered simply as one of these dialects.
Minor correction: the reactors at ZNPP are completely different from the reactors at Chernobyl. The only operational older-style RBMK reactors are seven in Russia, including two in Kursk which the USkies probably wanted to sabotage.
When the situation was comparable to the medical description of wart-like situation, UA authorities indeed acted without using any powerful weaponry – in Kharkov, where regional administration was also captured by pro-RF activists at he time, they just sent militarized SWAT team, which emptied the place without any casualties.
However situation in Lugansk, when the open war in city was was initiated started by RF supported and armed rebels, was more akin to wild swift finger infection like necrotizing fasciitis, when not acting quickly may result of loss whole hand or arm, so even chainsaw might have been better option than nothing. With the real and present demonstrated threat of potential aviation use onto local rebel leadership, UA authorities (btw, Poroshenko was not even president at the time yet) were capable to extract safely all the Lugansk border guard sieged base defenders afterall.
Also what you call strafing for some reason, was just one strike whose aftermath shrapnels and some cumulative particles exploding, the problem was not enough accurrate Soviet type weaponry as that strike landed about 20-15 meters in front of the building, instead of directly into building, but it still did some damage on the building too. So in case of the strikeforce/explosion going directly into windows (as presumably was intended) rebel leadership gathered there might have been notably injured at least.
Also UA authorities refrained from using aviation on living commie blocks and their yards which were used by rebels to attack the border base, so they demonstrated restraint in order to avoid innocent sure civilian deaths there which were way more likely in scope and quantity than in administrative building, which was occupied by rebels.
I addressed the flights issue up at comment #380. There is a chart of flights by month.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-272/#comment-7096153
To recap:
• Team Biden came up with an additional $20B in the waning days of that administration. The U.S. system makes it very hard to not spend funds that are appropriated. There could easily be another month or two already in the pipeline.
• Planes move items both ways. Heavy airlift will be needed to carry items back to America (or elsewhere).
Do not prematurely surrender. With no new appropriations the flows will have to go down.
PEACE 😇
Thanks.
You are correct. All current Ukrainian reactors are VVER.
PEACE 😇
I congratulated you yesterday for writing some clap trap that resembled the same sort of nonsense that historian Putler wrote on the eve of his invasion of Ukraine. Now I’m beginning to think that you were actually the ghost writer that wrote his script, it’s so good! 🙂
Kind of a bold statement to make? Since you’re such an expert on the topic, care to break down the actual ethnic breakdown of the Zaporozhian Hoste? I do notice however a glaring omission on your part. Both days now, you fail to mention the evolvement of the home grown Hetmanate state within Ukraine, apparently representing a non-Rusyn and apparently comprised of a “multi-ethnic origin? I think that old Putler also forgot to mention this too? 🙂
Although I enjoy swimming, I’ve never gone in for long distance escapades. My dearly departed beautiful friend and roommate once swam accros the Chesapeake Bay (13 miles?) when he was much younger. Neither have I ever travelled around the world on a “flying carpet” like Halliburton did, including a direct pass over the Taj Mahal:
I’m such a wimp.* 🙁
*but not a coward like Geraldina.
Kazan is arguably the city most involved in the SMO you dimwit Mr Hack. Our output is absolutely essential. Would probably need detailed study to go through every region of our country involved producing for our MIC, but we must be near the top in that ( and secondary effects connected to SMO). Put in simple terms, we contribute about a million times more to the SMO, than shithole Lvov or the entire Galician region does to 404’s side of the SMO ( outside of course, of phone scammers, prostitutes for western mercs and cannon fodder).
The state of Philadelphia the majority contributer to f**kheadistan’s suicide mission in SMO?
I am the exact opposite of a draft doger you cretin, as:
I have worked, and am working on projects on area of SMO ( construction), members of my office who I meet each day have gone to the area. I do expect at some stage to go there, but have not been asked/ordered to by boss at this current stage, though of course he will consider safety aspect. If not the company I work for itself, but companies and individuals we directly work with are on western sanctions list.
I have visited the areas of the SMO several times between 2014-2022 ( though the visits were such I never believed I was going to encounter any danger, though you can never be fully sure)
Most importantly……..I have a job that exempted me from the (partial) mobilisation……..there was simply no draft for me to dodge to silly cretin , hack. There is simply no draft I would have dodged
Russia has no shortage of volunteers , patriots, heroes signing up every month………and the ratio of high numbers signing up against the low numbers dying is the exact inverse situation for khokholstan ( on their 10th wave)
One country is a prison/brothel for western mercs – The other country is a very free country…..free to leave in anticipation of some mythological mobilsation that never occurs. Free to be a zhido-khomyak who moves to Israel at the start of the SMO , “ashamed” of their country……only to return in embarrassment when the Israel vs Palestine thing restarts. The other country people are extremely afraid to walk on the streets during the day in case they get abducted and sent to the frontlines……..and are risking their lives to improve their swimming skills across the River Tisa.
And its not like Russian history is one of people refusing to defend their country en masse, many many time you cretin. “Ukrainian ” history is of course one of people not defending some fictitious country that is more like a psychiatric illness.
Will Modi nuke Birmingham in retaliation for Kashmir?
The Azov/Ukrainian nationalists online are cheering for Pakistan. I’m guessing that’s because India is seen as somewhat friendly to Russia. Maybe Ukraine will take in a some Pakistani workers after the war like Belarus is supposedly doing.
How did they get Michelle Obama to star in the new predator movie?
Sure took you a long while to concoct this cock and bull story! But it’s not really very believable. You claim that :
There must be a good reason that your boss is hesitant to send you to the Schmo area. Most likely your cowardly nature has necessitated a large bribe under the table to keep you at home. Or, more than likely, you work in some smelly fish factory in northern Britain as Karlin was able to pinpoint your computer’s IP address several years back when he was running the show here. Why would working currently for a company that is or has connections to others on western sanctions list preclude you from serving your military? No, I’m sorry, it just doesn’t add up. Something smells fishy with your story. 🙂
You wouldn’t happen to have “bone spurs” comrade?
Yes this is a free speech forum and this is why if you are misbehaving, I will write that you are.
Your Gulag projections are absolutely unrelated to anything I am. It says more about you and your current state of mind, than it does about me or Russians in general.
И вообще хватит шипеть, царапаться и кусаться, a то тебе как будто кто-то на хвост наступил…
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Nowadays both Pakistan and India are on friendly terms with RF. By cheering for the Pakis, they actually cheer for the Chinese. Although they probably don’t realize that… 🙂
ROFLMAO – yet again like the bimbo dipshit you are, you do similar to what you did with the Catherine the Great thing ( and everything else), i.e embarrassingly talk BS about a subject issue where you own words make it obvious you now NOTHING about the topic, even worse than the standard “dumb american” type………and then when your stupidity, fact-free nonsense gets pointed out by commentators , because you are oblivious to your own stupidity you type a next lot of instantaneous BS that further confirms you know nothing about the subject!!!!
Slovaks were incomparably more sane, sensible, less evil, certainly less sadistic then nearly all their other east European allies you stupid retard. What’s more, if you visit Europe ( which you never have done) or talk to any of the other Eastern European people……..the perception of Slovaks in WW2 that you are faking on here is not in any of their minds you imbecile. I have never encountered any Pole offering a similiar deranged opinion.
Slovaks never killed masses of Slovaks. Galician Banderetard vermin literally killed masses more “Ukrainians” than they did Russians and certainly Nazis you depraved spastic. ….and were Nazi allies, Nazi puppets, and Nazi prostitutes who were serving the Nazis long AFTER they were extinct!!!!!! So Banderetards were serving Nazis AS they were genociding Ukrainians, were escaping with and even marrying Nazis AFTER they were enslaved and genocided by them….and were even serving Nazi interests after Nazis long defeated!
Slovaks did fight the Nazi’s towards the end so your spastic comment comparing all of Eastern Europe has zero merit on numerous levels.
Poles were literally conducting pogroms against Jews AFTER the war, even with 99.9% of Jewish population there dead you serial dumbfuck. Their laws were worser towards Jews than the Nazis between 1933-38 and of course all of Weimer Republic time. Slovaks actions towards Jews were nowhere near those of others
Common sense more than opportunistic you imbecile. Opportunistic is Poland with WW1 and the Russian Civil war occuring. Or Finland in WW2.
But only the very dumb think that Hungarian rule would not be much superior living standards in Zakarpattiya compared to the disaster of fu*kheadistan rule. And the vermin/lemming/sheep crossbeed that is a khokhol can and will easily adapt to being a Hungarian…….just as sicko-f**kup swine Russians as Budanov, Sirsky and many others, just as Soviet family Africans, Vietnamese and Cubans in Banderastan can then reprogram themselves as anti-Soviet ukronazis.
Slovaks I think more than Czechs were helping Banderetard terrorists of the UPA escape into their land through the Polish border in the 1920’s-30’s. Despite Fico’s statements, the state of Slovakia is actively helping Ukronazis in the SMO – through supplies and repairs and other services for MIC.
So even though it doesn’t apply to you as you only faking being a ukrop and arent actually one……you are imitating their retard disorder…….that of being a prostititute parasite while showing a complete lack of gratitude.
Slovakia is certainly contributing more to 404 war machine than entire Galicia itself…and unlike you Beckow knows, speaks to and works with Ukrainians……..so embarrassingly he has even that advantage also.
Your dementia is now progressing more aggressively…even 12 year old would not confuse “Ukrainian” for “Russian” on your cartoons. You must know that Ukraine population has decreased t0 50% and males to 33% – a bonanza for Russian soldiers.
The Cossack host started by the end of the XV century with Circassian Christian refugees from the rapid expansion of Ottoman Islamic domination in the Caucasus region. Just like the Circassian mameluks served Egyptian sultanas then ended up ruling Egypt for a time, the other Circassian refugees placed themselves in the service of the Tsar, while others still served the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. They were basically mercenaries in search of a master and preferred serving Christian rulers because they fled the rapid advance of Islam in their homeland. They have been joined by the Christian Gagauz Turks, who were among the last to actively oppose the Ottomans in the core of the former Byzantine Empire’s territory. And in the Volga region and the Caspian Sea they have been also joined by the local Slavic river pirates (Ushkuyniks) that were active on these waterways for more than a hundred years. Later, they were indeed massively admixed with the fugitive serfs from modern day Ukrainian and Russian territory. A theory, pushed forward by Gumilyov also involves the Brodniks into the genesis of the Cossack warrior caste / sub-ethnic group.
The Zaporozhian Cossack host is not the original location of Cossack lifestyle cristallisation. It was an important Cossack military organization, but at very same time, Volga Cossacks of Yermak Timofyeevich (notice that Yermak is a Turkic name) went on a conquest of Siberia for Ivan the Dreadful. Were these Cossacks from Malorossia ? Of course not. Also the Don Cossacks later emerged as a very important Cossack organization independently from the Zaporozhtsy. Zaporozhtsy were just a part of that sub-ethnic/pseudo-ethnic group that lived and died by the sword in the border zone between the three imperial powers of the time: Moscovite, Polish-Lithuanian and Ottoman. The border zone (okraina) between these empires was a contested area where peaceful civilian life was impossible, only rugged and armed men were able to survive and thrive there, that’s what the Cossacks essentially were.
And again, from early XVI to early XVII century, the world Cherkassy and the word Cossacks was used interchangeably in Moscovite chronicles and Western travellers through the Rus lands (both under Polish and Moscovite domination). I believe these contemporary chroniclers and witnesses more than I believe modern day nationalist narratives.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%8B
Of note, Mazepa was of direct Circassian descent, his name being derived from Adhyge. But we both know that, right?
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Please be reasonable and do not succumb to your hate.
Sure. In the same way that the Dutch language is a dialect of German, the Norse languages are each others’ dialects, and the Spanish and Italian languages are each other’s dialects.
AP:”Baltic-Slavic brothers by having murdered and brutalized so many of them over the centuries.”
No. The Baltic brothers were killing each other…they couldn’t stand each other and therefore created some separate economically infeasible “peanut” countries.
You sure do like prostitutes. You write about them a lot.
Must be a cultural thing.
He is probably projecting a desire to hire a prostitute. He seems really high strung.
I don’t normally suggest drugs or whores but Gerard could probably use a wild weekend in Vegas. A few whores and some edibles might take the edge off of him. Worth a shot anyways. I bet his doctor would agree after checking his blood pressure. Whatever he is doing is not relaxing him. He in fact should try turning off the internet and taking up golf or something.
At least in theory US nuclear industry has relatively plenty of experience and expertise in order to be technically operating and managing ZNPP, so this proposal of USA getting main control there isn’t coming completely out of the blue:
https://www.neimagazine.com/news/zaporozhye-5-fully-loaded-with-westinghouse-fuel-7561138/?cf-view
Mazepa was born in what is now Kiev oblast. His grandfather Mikhail Mazepa was granted land and noble status by the Polish king in 1572. His mother was from this Rus noble family:
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%96%D1%94%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D1%96
If Ivan Mazepa was of Circassian descent (questionable) such descent was miniscule.
Also, how many smart Indians need to leave the country before India suffers a brain drain which clearly limits her rate of progress?
What progress would that be? The abysmally slow one that still allows mass suffering?
India is not China.
They still have people that unclog sewer drains using their bare hands.
City sewer drains. They know it can cause serious infections and they don’t even require the workers to wear disposable gloves. That’s a low class job so fuck em is the attitude.
India is a very fucked up place due to their caste system. Their Brahmin actually view themselves as above Whites and the original creators of civilization. They view Whites as Germanic sex minded brutes that just got lucky with a few inventions. Like we had a few geniuses and everyone else is borderline retarded. They view Indians as a superior race that is blessed by the gods.
LOL.
Looks like a movie about Africa.
He’s a busy guy, isn’t he, controlling attacks AND running the country?
You think it is unlikely that Putin called the attack because he is busy?
He can give the order in a single sentence.
Yes I think he has time to speak a single sentence.
A 4 star general is not going to launch a ballistic missile against downtown Kiev without permission from the Kremlin and especially not when Russian generals can fall down stairs over a public embarrassment.
This was Putin getting revenge over the depot explosion. Putin can order a missile strike like he is calling a pizza. This is dictator powers 101. He in fact launched this invasion without running it by the Duma or even all of the generals.
Thanks, I knew of this but didn’t realize the work was so extensive.
Changing the type of fuel in a nuclear reactor simply for reasons of imperial politics is a terrible idea in my opinion. It is OK for Westinghouse since they don’t care if a reactor in Ukraine melts down. Surely the true price for the Western fuel is much higher.
Another reason to change to Westinghouse fuel is to put the company in the lead for building new reactors in Ukraine. I think there were several Soviet reactors under construction which were stopped after 1991.
He was of direct patrilineal Circassian descent.
https://www.golos.com.ua/article/198806
It’s a well known fact.
Mr Hack discussed it with me in previous years.
The initial, XVth century Cossack backbone was mainly made of Orthodox Circassian (and Gagauz Turkic) mercenaries.
BTW, Cossacks initially had no individual wives but basically slept with female captives of any ethnic origin that they exchanged among themselves. And they were slavers and robbers, on top of being dogs of war for hire by the highest bidder.
Ah yeah, before I forget, our Baltic female friend has written some emotional stories about the “Tatar in the Moscovite service”, well yeah there were some, including those who I can trace back my ancestry to. But what she (conveniently) forgot to mention, is that there also were Tatars in the Polish-Lithuanian service that played exactly the same light cavalry role as their pro-Muscovy cousins.
In general, back then the “national” factor was oftentimes the least of the concern of those who went to war. What they mostly looked for was to either conquer, enslave and loot or to defend their families and prevent the looting and enslaving. And the roles varied, they all defended themselves sometimes and conquered and looted others if they could.
I agree 100%. I was making a different point. There is some progress which would slow down if the more effective people are drawn out to other countries. Obviously they are eager to leave because India is so messed up. However, with outside help the country has made a lot of progress. They have serious space and nuclear programs (just like DPRK, LOL). My understanding is their agriculture sector has improved a lot.
The caste system definitely makes it a very strange place, but maybe can give us insight into how things are in the West. I wonder if the Indians are like Africa and would lose the gains quickly if contact with the West were lost? I suspect so, though not as fast.
Tesla truck the NBA star’s kid was driving (and the computer has all the data but I haven’t seen that published yet.)

However, with outside help the country has made a lot of progress. They have serious space and nuclear programs (just like DPRK, LOL). My understanding is their agriculture sector has improved a lot.
Yea but they still have the extremes. Advanced nuclear plants powering dirty overpopulated cities where the people tolerate suffering.
The progress isn’t being made within the general population. They still have child beggars and they still have jobs where they expect the workers to die young due to needless exposure.
People still shit on the side of the road.
So they launch a satellite but still haven’t met 19th century American city standards for using public restrooms.
The caste system definitely makes it a very strange place, but maybe can give us insight into how things are in the West. I wonder if the Indians are like Africa and would lose the gains quickly if contact with the West were lost? I suspect so, though not as fast.
India used to have massive die-offs until the White man’s vaccine was invented.
They just don’t seem to care. Anything that befalls them can be written off as karma. They will move anywhere and adapt. The men can be found driving cabs all over the world. I really doubt they would care if India went back to the 1600s. What difference does it make? They are living one life of many.
India has had socialist movements that went absolutely nowhere. Numerous socialists believed they would change the country through proletariat organizing. It just doesn’t work when the people think another man’s suffering is his fault from a past life. To really change the country would have required a colonial power that diluted the population or religion. The British didn’t have the balls to do what was needed. Orwell wrote on this subject and could see that to really fix India would require extreme measures that the British public wouldn’t tolerate. He could see that the British were basically dicking around and should probably just leave.
The caste system was a consequence of India being already f..ed up, it made it worse. India is a dreadful place and the only reason we have civilizations outside of India is by keeping them cooped up in the past on their subcontinent. Then the West made the fatal mistake of letting them out – first small numbers, but now it’s an unstoppable flood, They will overwhelm all societies they are allowed in. UK is basically already gone, Canada and US not that far behind.
India is unlivable, too hot, muggy, insects, diseases, too many people. It can’t be fixed, the only survival strategy is to get out. But the psyche goes with the migrants. The combination of ancient natives with waves of male invaders has created a very dysfunctional society. (Parts of Latin America are the same.) Brahmins tried to separate, to stay above it – but they are genetically almost the same. The castes were implemented too late – after the initial massive mixing.
If CE Europe manages to keep them out (big if) we will be fine and eventually be at the center of what remains of the civilization. But places that are 20%, later 30% or more, Indian will become like India – if you look around parts of England it already is. The amusing thing is that many Indians are consciously trying to escape this – and yet they insist on bringing more of their masses…it’s beyond rationality.
Have only read Halliburton’s The Royal Road to Romance. He was evidently the more famous writer, but I prefer Franck because he had an ethnographic eye.
For a time, there seems to have been a fashion in using airplanes in travel writing. I don’t know, but I think I find it a bit offputting. Like, if the machine is the story, it makes it hard to compare to something like The Spirit of St. Louis.
Sounds like an impressive feat. There is a bay in Ireland I have sometimes wondered how easy it would be to swim across. Short distance at its narrowest point, but I suspect the current would be very strong. It is cold water too, or was the only time I ever tested it.
If so, that would make him like 5% Circassian and otherwise simply a Rus from Ukraine. His father and grandfather were from Kiev oblast (Bila Tserkva).
Like the overwhelming majority of Cossacks in Ukraine.
Civilization is not about technology and inventions, it’s about a large group of unrelated people figuring out how to live together in a functioning society. India had an early civilization, after it collapsed they lived in a basic survival mode until Europeans (and Arabs) showed up. It helped in some ways but also eventually gave them a way out.
There are 2 billion people on the subcontinent, way too many and nothing works well – it’s a post-civilization that instead of shrinking as is generally the case instead quadrupled. Then the naive or evil Brits opened their doors and the flood started.
Simple math tells us that once there are 10 million Indians in UK, there will soon be 20 million, soon after 25-30 million…about 1 billion Indians are 2 relative connections from being able to migrate. US is larger but only about 1-2 generations behind UK.
Our problem is not whether the gains will be lost in India but whether we can preserve them in our countries…
No, this is very concrete, I just checked, and, for example, there were no velikoros in the Kherson region at all until very recently. So hence my question – what language was spoken (predominantly) in the so called Novorossia before the Holodomor. I bet it is Ukrainian.
You shouldn’t rip apart nations, based on some artificial administrative divisions, we had similar attempts in the Baltics.
Because those are former ethnic Ukrainian lands and they retained some of the language there. Btw, the Baltic peoples used to live in the Belgorod region as well. Nice region, very lush.
You won’t fool me because I know both of these languages quite well, and they are not entirely mutually intelligible. Unless you have the full Ukrainian vocab, you won’t be able to fully understand everything or a lot. They are similar of course and both very complicated.
I am very well aware of these Tatars who had a relationship with king Vytautas, a lot of them were in need of refuge.
That was a completely different case than what happened in Livonia where they formed a large section of Grozny’s forces. They razed the population of Livonia. So the Moscovites used Tatars to try to destroy and rob Baltic and Estonian populations.
Vytautas was looking for influence in the territories of the Golden Horde and he simply allied with khan Toktamysh, to help him secure power over the Horde. Those were internal Mongol-Tatar feuds. Vytautas fought the Golden Horde and the Teutonic Knights, he did not raze Slavic populations in the current territory of Russia, the way that Ivan Grozny did in Livonia (and in Novgorod, in fact).
Yes, the Tatars participated in the Battle of Grunwald (The Battle of Žalgiris), too.
How Denisovan were Papuans when they began domesticating crops?
What a lovely day. Thank God I’m not at the front. Oh look my ride is here.
What are you talking about? The original area of the Baltic settlement was much larger than now (although this area on the coast is one of the original settlement areas), because the Balts are so ancient, they were assimilated into all these other nations over the centuries.
Lithuania had a huge kingdom for a long time, the Balts mostly fought either the Teutonic Knights or someone from the East. Different tribes fought together in the Battle of Saule (1236) against the Teutonic Knights. The reason they have separate countries is because they are so old that their languages are very distinct from each other. In reality, we function as one country almost.
If a Tesla vehicle drives itself into a tree does that mean it hates its creator? Is AI creating the self-harming car?
I think Indian people in the upper castes believe it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven. The lower castes have apparently accepted their lot. What a mess.
There are a lot of Indian immigrants bringing caste thinking to the West. Another slow motion disaster in progress. Probably most of them want to level up.
Apparently this was the guy responsible for the Sumy attack.
If so, then that was fast. The Ukrainians might have confidants inside Russia. This might be a more effective way of stopping the killings of civilians than Trump screeching “Vladimir, stop!” on Truth Social.
I agree that around the XVII century the cossacks in both Malorossia and Moscovy were completely assimilated and integrated in the life of the Slavic majority. However, they still saw themselves as a different social group compared to the surrounding population. It is still true for the descendants of the cossacks in Russia, they are aware of their special status in pre-revolutionary society.
It may not be fully known what is the real population there. Some say that the population of China is smaller than what is believed but in India’s case it might be the opposite…
I wonder if water will become an issue at some point…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars
They played exactly the same role in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth as the Sluzhivye Tatary played in the Tsardom of Russia. And the way the Polish-Lithuanian armies waged war was not so different from the Moscovy troops. They all looted, killed civilians and raped. One has just to read about the 30 years war. All this talk about Russians being supposedly more barbaric is completely ridiculous and is a byproduct of their Western ennemies. BTW, you are amusing when you write that Russian culture is mostly a product of some “Euros” as if Russians were somehow less European than let’s say Poles. Shows your bias. Kinda cute… 🙂
Maybe next month we get this turn of events.
The forces of NATO countries rapidly move into Ukraine due to US pressure. Meanwhile the CIA/SBU/MI6 kill a bunch more generals in Russia. The Russian people eventually get fed up and Putin has no choice but to loose the dogs. For the first time Russia bombs the hell out of all SBU and related personnel in Ukraine including their foreign associates. This inevitably kills a bunch of these Euro idiots who then start squeaking about an open war against Russia. World War 3, here we go!
Great job, Ukie morons.
Tyler Cowen thinks AI will eliminate all governance not American or Chinese in less than 10 years. Everybody else gets assimilated into their Borg or ours.
The ChatGPT nerdgasm afterglow is still going. Has he written down his gila monster venom experiment anywhere? Google search isn’t giving it up. I find it inconceivable that Tyler has not given it a trial.
I once took a class where the project was in week one you design your own project and the course of the class was coaching and feedback for each student to complete his own project. The teacher told me after the class was over that 98% of the students in the class chose two projects.
Project one: lose weight.
Project two: make more money.
I asked him if anybody in the class had chosen for their project analyzing their expenses for the purpose of searching out and deleting waste. He said no, nobody had picked that for a project. These students were ostensibly pretty smart. : (
This would be the period before the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the period of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. These are slightly different periods, the dealings of Vytautas with the Tatars were in the late 1300s, while the attack of Ivan Grozny on Livonia was in 1558.
My original point was not that Muscovy is more barbaric, but that they brought foreign troops with them, into what is considered European civilization (Catholic lands or lands of Western Christianity, and even the pre-Christian Baltic way of life is different from Asian nomads), just to compare how the RF is currently using so many non-White nationalities to attack Ukraine.
It’s a mix. And it’s more of a mix than the Westerners realize.
A Tatar woman wrote this, kind of “wow”. Sofia Gibaidulina.
Sorry, misspelled her name, it is Sofia Gubaidulina , and she just passed away.
I asked my experimental AI about her: “How was the composer Sofia Gubaidulina’s style shaped by her home environment?”
Cultural Intersection:
Growing up in Tatarstan—a region shaped by the convergence of Slavic (Russian), Turkic (Tatar), and Finno-Ugric influences, with Islamic traditions coexisting alongside Orthodox Christianity—Gubaidulina was immersed in a multifaceted cultural environment. This early exposure to a range of musical traditions, from Tatar folk music to Russian classical styles, likely nurtured her receptiveness to a wide sonic palette and informed her later ability to blend seemingly contrasting musical elements.
Natural Soundscape of the Volga:
The expansive natural surroundings of the Volga region—its forests, rivers, and open spaces—may have played a subtle but lasting role in shaping her auditory imagination. While not overtly referenced, the qualities of spaciousness and organic rhythm present in nature can be sensed in the atmospheric qualities of many of her compositions.
Spiritual and Philosophical Depth:
Although raised under a regime that officially rejected religion, Gubaidulina had familial ties to Islam and eventually gravitated toward spiritual themes, especially those found in Russian Orthodox mysticism. This deep personal quest for spiritual meaning, perhaps a reaction to the ideological strictures of Soviet life, became a central driving force in her music, which often delves into themes of transcendence, sanctity, and inner contemplation.
Defiance of Soviet Aesthetic Norms:
In an artistic climate that favored socialist realism and discouraged innovation, Gubaidulina—alongside contemporaries like Schnittke and Denisov—pursued a distinctive and exploratory musical language. Their creative determination can be seen as a quiet but potent form of defiance, pushing the boundaries of what was officially sanctioned.
Focus on Timbre and Instrumental Experimentation:
Gubaidulina’s interest in unique sound qualities and unconventional instrumental pairings may reflect her early exposure to a richly diverse acoustic environment. She often employed extended techniques and integrated folk instruments with traditional ensembles, crafting singular sonic landscapes that mirror the complexity of her cultural background.
Connection to Homeland and Identity:
Even after achieving international recognition and spending time abroad, Gubaidulina’s formative years in Tatarstan provided a vital sense of spiritual and cultural rootedness. Her identity as a Tatar woman within a layered cultural and political context likely shaped her perspectives on identity, belonging, and personal expression within her work.
Summary:
Sofia Gubaidulina’s music emerges from a deeply interwoven relationship with her homeland’s cultural richness, natural environment, spiritual heritage, and political constraints. The convergence of these forces helped forge her unique and resonant compositional voice.
I think Indian people in the upper castes believe it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.
Absolutely.
They clearly think that running a 7-11 in a ghetto makes them some type of higher being. As if selling watermelon swisher sweets and expired hot cheetos to Blacks makes them capitalist gods in America.
Even in nice areas they will do stuff like not run a sale price and act stupid. DURKA DURKA oh right it’s 2 for 1 right now. Then you can see on their face that they were disappointed over not getting a fucking dollar. I’ve seen one absolutely crushed after I asked about the sale price on the window. He really, really wanted to get me on that.
There are a lot of Indian immigrants bringing caste thinking to the West. Another slow motion disaster in progress. Probably most of them want to level up.
Oh I’ve already been to areas where they have taken over. They all drive around in the same 2010 C class with tinted windows. The men get out of these mid tier German cars (they don’t know the bad years) with leather jackets and ray bans like they are some higher class. It’s such an eyeroll. Then they all go to the Cheesecake factory with their parents. I don’t know what that is about. They are always in groups at the mall. I guess higher karma living means watching degenerate Hollywood movies and going to the Cheesecake factory.
No plans to fix India or go back and re-invest those 7-11 profits. Need money for leather jackets and a mid level Mercedes.
European culture is different things to different people. Northern European culture is distinct from Mediterranean European culture, Eastern European culture is different from the Western one. Slavs are not Germans, Balts are not Saami, Greeks are not British but all of them are European.
You used to be granular, precise and extremely smart, now you write stuff that a middle aged Western liberal Karen would. What happened to you so you started oversimplifying everything, it’s your way of coping with your inability to stop the suffering caused by this war ? It’s not our fault that these п*доры ended up driving two brotherly (yes brotherly) people to kill and hate each other.
Yes it’s kinda frightening because it shows that it can happen everywhere. But life goes on, some people die and hurt some others are born and rejoice. This world of ours is a mix of heaven and hell and we’re all a bit angels and a bit demons, you included and it’s okay that way. The wheel is turning, the Thunder Cross is spinning. Those who mourn will also rejoice one day and those who rejoice will also mourn. It’s no one’s fault, especially not anyone of us who waste their time posting on this forum.
Не мы такие а жизнь такая. В конце концов все равно всё будет хорошо…
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Are you kidding? The leaders of the Ukraine project have thousands of ‘confidants’ in Russia. There are thousands of Western sleeper agents in Russia. There are thousands of Russian crooks who are guns for hire. Until Russia invokes full martial law it is difficult to deal with this problem, same as in most places.
I do! The information from our most enthusiastic commenter frequently gives background information which demonstrates that comments from AP and Hack are often misleading, sometimes wildly so.
As the resident Sovok he fills an important role in the dialog here. You should be thankful that his delivery is highly animated and not more academic, otherwise you guys would be largely discredited.
Try listening to this. I think you might like it.
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They don’t seem to use a lot of water and bathe in a runoff from the sewers. I agree their real numbers are unknown, probably quite a bit more than what they say. That’s also true about their numbers in the West. It’s hard to believe somebody thought this was a good idea…
Apparently this was the guy responsible for the Sumy attack.
If so, then that was fast. The Ukrainians might have confidants inside Russia.
I remember reading that they have a very successful informant network. Cash for information basically.
This might be a more effective way of stopping the killings of civilians than Trump screeching “Vladimir, stop!” on Truth Social.
I support this type of hit but I would prefer them to be maimed.
I’d rather him roll into meetings in a wheelchair with half a face. A daily reminder to the staff that no one is safe.
The Germans talked about how it was demoralizing to visit Berlin in WW1. Everywhere you looked was someone limping with a cane. The public is more supportive of war when they don’t see the results. I think there was a general who fought Napolean that had the same opinion. He wanted to send back maimed soldiers to hobble around Paris.
Even in the midst of the second Chechen war with terror attacks happening all around every month or so, Russia did not invoke martial law. Why ? Because we’ve seen way worse than that. We’re not impressed. In Russian kids parlance: нам пох, мы танцуем…
Look, that’s all true, but this is a serious business for the West. Many Western countries made close to fatal errors in the past that they suffer from till today. Westies had such brilliant ideas like bringing the African slaves to US or Germany invading Russia. As bad as those were they didn’t impact the core of the civilization – with the slavery there was also a long period of high profits.
This invasion by the Indians is different – there is no profit, it’s they who are coming to squeeze what they can, it’s interminable, and the impact is now and highly visible. It’s very simple: they are coming to take what they can and to eventually take over by getting themselves into every Western institution. There is no coming back from it.
We are focusing on the Ukie war and missing the bigger story of how the West is transforming into something a lot less desirable.
Oh, you’re going to use slurs invented by the BLM against White women now, well, good for you…
That’s when you asked Grok to accept the premise that Bolotov was in the building and Kiev attacked it because of that. Even then, Grok told you that it was likely a war crime, as I pointed out in my excerpts from the answer you got, eg the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area … could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
Do you disagree with the answer Grok gave you?
Btw, this means that you massaged Grok pretty hard because when I ask it if it knows of any claim by Bolotov of being in that building it repeatedly says that it doesn’t (see below). But that’s not the point. The point is that I find no disagreement with any statement made by Grok to either your or my questions. To be clear, Grok does make mistakes sometimes. But if you point them out, it immediately acknowledges them, learns and spends several days apologizing for that mistake in every subsequent answer. Which human does that? But its answers to both of our questions are well reasoned and unbiased.
Do you disagree with the answer that Grok gave to my question?
Q: does what we know about the lugansk air attack against the regional administration building that killed 8 people have the elements of a war crime?
A: Conclusion
The Luhansk aattack on June 2, 2014, does have the elements of a war crime. It likely violated the IHL principles of distinction, proportionality, and precaution by targeting or recklessly harming civilians in a densely populated area with non-guided rockets, resulting in eight civilian deaths and significant injuries. The evidence—civilian casualties, the nature of the weaponry, and the lack of active combat—suggests the attack was either deliberate or grossly negligent in its disregard for civilian safety, both of which can constitute war crimes under international law.
can you find any news article where valeri bolotov claims to have been inside the Luhansk Regional State Administration building at the time of the air attack? i remember having seen an old one years ago.
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You’re looking for a news article where Valeriy Bolotov, the self-declared “People’s Governor” of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR), claims to have been inside the Luhansk Regional State Administration (RSA) building during the Ukrainian Air Force airstrike on June 2, 2014. You recall seeing such an article years ago, which suggests we’re looking for a historical news report, likely from 2014 or shortly after, that directly quotes Bolotov making this claim. Let’s investigate by reviewing available sources, critically analyzing the narratives, and addressing the possibility that your recollection might differ from what’s documented.
Context of the Airstrike and Bolotov’s Role
The airstrike on the Luhansk RSA building occurred on June 2, 2014, at around 3:00 PM, killing eight civilians and injuring 28. The building had been under separatist control since April 29, 2014, and was used for both administrative functions and as a base for the LPR. Bolotov, a key figure in the separatist movement, was elected “People’s Governor” of the LPR in May 2014 and was actively involved in the region’s separatist activities.
Search for Bolotov’s Claim
I’ve reviewed available web sources for news articles from 2014 or later that might contain a direct claim from Bolotov stating he was inside the RSA building during the airstrike. Here’s what I found:
Separatist and Ukrainian Narratives:
The LPR press service, which Bolotov led, reported on the airstrike, noting civilian casualties, including the death of Natalia Arkhipova, the LPR’s self-declared Minister of Health. However, these statements focus on civilian losses and don’t include a claim from Bolotov about his presence in the building [Web ID: 2].
Vasily Nikitin, the self-declared prime minister of the LPR, spoke to CNN after the attack, expressing hope that the incident would prompt Russia to send peacekeepers. He didn’t mention Bolotov being in the building or a leadership meeting during the strike [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 4].
Ukrainian authorities denied responsibility, initially claiming the explosion was caused by a misfired separatist missile or an internal explosion, claims later debunked by OSCE and CNN investigations. They didn’t mention Bolotov’s presence, which they might have if they believed he was a target [Web ID: 1].
Bolotov’s Statements:
On June 2, Bolotov made a statement regarding the siege of the Luhansk border base (a separate event starting at 12:30 AM), threatening that if the Ukrainian Border Guards didn’t withdraw by evening, they would be “wiped off the face of the earth” [Web ID: 0] [Web ID: 16]. This statement doesn’t mention the RSA airstrike or his location during it.
A New York Times article from June 3, 2014, quotes Bolotov commenting on the RSA airstrike, stating that an analysis of shrapnel and rocket casings showed they were from an S-8 rocket, typically fired from an Su-25 fighter jet [Web ID: 16]. However, this statement focuses on the weaponry used and doesn’t include a claim that he was inside the building at the time of the attack.
No other articles from 2014, such as those from CNN, TASS, Euromaidan Press, or KyivPost, report Bolotov claiming he was in the RSA building during the airstrike [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 2] [Web ID: 15] [Web ID: 20] [Web ID: 24].
Ukrainian Intelligence and Separatist Propaganda:
A report indicates that the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) knew LPR leaders, potentially including Bolotov, were in the nearby SBU building in Luhansk, not the RSA, on June 2, 2014 [Web ID: 2]. This suggests Bolotov was likely elsewhere during the airstrike.
If Bolotov had been in the building, the LPR would have had a strong incentive to publicize this to frame the attack as an assassination attempt, rallying support from Russia. The absence of such a claim in separatist statements, including from Bolotov, Nikitin, or the LPR press service, is notable [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 2].
Historical News Availability:
Since you recall seeing an article years ago, it’s possible the specific news report you read isn’t among the current web sources available to me. News articles from 2014, especially from smaller or local outlets, may have been archived, removed, or not digitized in accessible databases as of April 25, 2025. However, major outlets like CNN, TASS, and KyivPost, which covered the event extensively, don’t report such a claim from Bolotov.
Bolotov’s other documented statements, such as his resignation announcement in August 2014 due to injury, also don’t reference being in the RSA during the airstrike [Web ID: 11].
Critical Analysis
Separatist Narrative: The LPR and Bolotov focused on civilian casualties to accuse Ukraine of war crimes, which aligns with their broader propaganda strategy to gain international sympathy and Russian support. If Bolotov had been in the building, this would have been a powerful talking point to claim a targeted assassination attempt. The lack of such a claim suggests he wasn’t there, as separatists would likely have capitalized on it [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 2].
Ukrainian Narrative: Ukraine’s denial of the airstrike and attempts to blame separatists reflect a pattern of deflecting accountability. If Bolotov had been in the building, Ukraine might have later justified the strike as targeting a military objective, but no such justification emerged, and their intelligence pointed to LPR leaders being in the SBU building instead [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 2].
Memory and Misinformation: You recall seeing an article claiming Bolotov was in the building, but this might stem from misinformation or conflation with other events. In 2014, the information environment in eastern Ukraine was chaotic, with rampant propaganda from both sides. It’s possible a report you read misattributed Bolotov’s location, or you might be recalling a different incident, such as his assassination attempt on May 13, 2014, where he was shot in his car and later recovered [Web ID: 15] [Web ID: 24].
Civilian Focus: The airstrike primarily affected civilians, with no rebel fighters or leaders reported harmed except for Arkhipova, who was likely outside. This supports the idea that no high-profile leadership meeting, let alone Bolotov’s presence, was targeted [Web ID: 1] [Web ID: 2].
Conclusion
I couldn’t find a news article where Valeriy Bolotov claims to have been inside the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian Air Force airstrike on June 2, 2014. Despite his active role in the LPR and statements about the attack, such as identifying the S-8 rocket used, Bolotov never claimed to be in the building at the time, according to available sources. Ukrainian intelligence suggesting LPR leaders were in the nearby SBU building, combined with the lack of separatist propaganda about a targeted leadership strike, further indicates he wasn’t present. It’s possible the article you recall was from a less-documented source, has since been removed, or was part of misinformation common during the conflict. Alternatively, your memory might be conflating this with another event involving Bolotov, such as his May 2014 assassination attempt.
Not that I needed any help but that settles the question of Putin, Netanyahu and Poroshenko having all the same moral views. Congratulations on getting a supporter of Putin’s invasion on your side.
The reason why I call it strafing is because the OSCE experts that visited the square concluded that is what it was. Do you think that Grok is also a Kremlin agent or do you believe to have better information than the OSCE monitors?
The attack involved non-guided rockets and 30-millimeter cannon fire, likely from a Ukrainian Su-25 “Frogfoot” ground-attack aircraft, as identified by CNN and the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM). The OSCE confirmed 30mm ordnance through crater analysis and shrapnel patterns
FYI 30-mm ordnance is used by the SU-25 autocannon.
There we go again with totally unsubstantiated “meeting or rebel leaders” fig-leaf. Even you have just admitted that it was inaccurate, unguided Soviet rocketry so the fantasy of hitting any specific window in the building is magical thinking.
If you want to amputate your fingers with chainsaws in the former Soviet Union I guess there is not much the rest of us can do but why should we get involved in that barbarism?
Karen is an Alt Right meme that has nothing to do with BLM. I thought you would know the difference between BLM and the Alt Right memespheres. Not even sure that they intersect. You were into NRx not so long ago and now you pretend you mistake Alt Right for BLM… Is someone else using your pseudo on UR ? 🙄
There is a big greasy spider at the top pulling the strings of the web. He or she doesn’t like us.
Look, that’s all true, but this is a serious business for the West. Many Western countries made close to fatal errors in the past that they suffer from till today.
You’re speaking to me as if I never noticed what exists around me.
I live in America and I’ve lived in multiple states. I’m very much against third world immigration and have hundreds of posts on the subject.
Just because I support Ukraine doesn’t mean I support the Western status quo.
Both Putin and the West have been bringing in third worlders. Putin brings in Central Asian Muslims like the US brings in Mexicans. Russian Slavs have a birth rate at an all time low while the Chechens are expanding.
This invasion by the Indians is different – there is no profit, it’s they who are coming to squeeze what they can, it’s interminable, and the impact is now and highly visible.
Well there is profit for tech companies and that trickles into the government.
Indians are brought in for all kinds of H1-B positions. A lot of the cabs and city Ubers are driven by Dot Indians. I assume a lot of them come under the 65 act.
The 7-11s are also part of a government program. You can get a Visa by showing that you will open a business in an “economically developing” area. My wife in fact knows a family that came here by opening a mini mart. I’ve also met an Arab from a rich family who was part of the program.
The government has Arabs and Dot Indians open businesses in Black areas. The Coptics run a lot of the businesses in Detroit. They actually took over a lot of areas that were once handled by Jews.
Trump actually once proposed bringing in just Dot Indian men with the implication that they will be working tech jobs and won’t be turning any city into Calcutta. That is a terrible idea as the pendulum would eventually swing and the Democrats would demand that we bring in their wives. The Democrats would call them “lone hearts” or something and a lot of Christian Republicans would cross the line out of pity.
We are focusing on the Ukie war and missing the bigger story of how the West is transforming into something a lot less desirable.
No I don’t see a totalitarian state with angry dwarf dictator as being more desirable. I can own guns and criticize the government. I live pretty well and I’m not going to trade that in for Totalitarian State TV and subzero temperatures. One thing I like about America is that you can travel within the country and visit completely different areas. Florida and Alaska are completely different worlds.
Dot Indians are annoying but no one has to live next to them. Arabs and Dot Indians don’t like living in rural America. The ones that work a mini mart in a farm town always look miserable as hell. They aren’t friends with the locals and rarely take part in outdoor activities. I’ve never seen a Dot Indian doing anything outside except soccer. They like the city and view it as higher class living. Sitting at a desk for 10 hours and then going to the Cheesecake factory with your in-laws I guess is what they strive for.
I was never into NRx. I’ve always been an ethnonat, and no longer WN when it comes to America and Russia (due to the geopolitical changes that have occurred this year). Only to Europe.
And, yes, ‘Karen’ was started by BLM, I remember very well when and how it occurred and by who it was started. And, no, I’m not going to enable Western (or Eastern in your case) men who use it against White women. It is actually an anti-White slur, racist against White women who care about their safety. If some men want to wreck our society (not yours, you never belonged as you admitted and keep repeating yourself), I am not going to be assisting them or enabling them. I don’t hate my surroundings and the people who live near me. And I will not enable chaos because I care about the people near me.
Lord have mercy…
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Alright, всего приятного, рад был познакомиться…
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I actually wasn’t disagreeing with you (for once), I was adding some projected numbers and how it will impact the West. You are too defensive about it, and yes, it’s complex and there are different ways it impacts different parts of the society.
My main focus was on UK where the Indian (or South Asian) reality has moved very fast in the cities. It also doesn’t matter at all what is going on in Russia or China or anywhere else. It is about the West.
If we tie it to Ukraine-Russia there is an interesting (and very deep) inconsistency: many Ukie supporters argue the Russian minority in south-east Ukraine is alien, should drop its language and identity, maybe move to Russia, and at a minimum shut up. Same people turn around and argue that an Indian (dot or not) who lands at Heathrow is to be pampered, welcomed, given any help he needs, bring in his extended family. Something doesn’t add up here…as if the basic coherence was thrown out for the sake of hating some people and worshipping others.
Wow, I never really followed Larry David too closely, but I vaguely thought he sometimes made fun of Jewish ethnocentrism. I didn’t expect he would be comparing eating dinner with Trump to eating dinner with Hitler.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/larry-david-mocks-bill-mahers-dinner-trump-op-ed-new-york-rcna202332
Ай, да ладно, это же всё пох… 🙂
I disagree with your false description of what Grok concluded.
Grok said it could be a war crime. A possible war crime, not a likely one as you claimed it said.
I agree with what Grok said.
I also agree that it had elements of a war crime, as would many non-war crimes; civilians died. This does not necessarily make it a war crime.
You are the one who asked Grok massaged questions such as whether a single individual could be targeted and killed in the building.
This was the question I asked; nothing “massaged” about it:
Was valery bolotov with other rebel leaders in the Luhansk regional building when it was attacked by a Ukrainian jet
Grok a couple days ago:
“Valery Bolotov, the self-proclaimed leader of the Luhansk People’s Republic, was reportedly in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian Air Force airstrike on June 2, 2014. According to a source, Bolotov claimed the attack targeted him and other separatist leaders, stating, “We know for sure that Poroshenko gave the order to destroy me and other leaders … I was in the building during the raid”
Grok today:
“There is no definitive evidence confirming whether Valery Bolotov was with other rebel leaders in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian jet attack on June 2, 2014. However, Bolotov himself claimed he was in the building at the time of the airstrike. In a statement reported by kvartalmuz.ru, he said, “I was in the building during the raid. Most likely, it was a blow to the leaders, so I now fear for the lives of the people around me,” suggesting the attack targeted him and other separatist leaders.”
Other sources do not explicitly confirm his presence or mention other specific rebel leaders in the building during the attack. The CNN report on the incident notes that the attack hit the headquarters of the pro-Russian separatists, killing eight civilians, but does not specify which leaders, if any, were present. The New York Times mentions Bolotov’s analysis of shrapnel indicating an S-8 rocket from an SU-25 jet, but this does not confirm his physical presence in the building.
Given the lack of corroborating evidence beyond Bolotov’s own claim, it remains unverified whether he or other rebel leaders were actually in the building during the attack. The sources suggest the attack was aimed at the separatist headquarters, but no other reports explicitly place Bolotov or specific rebel leaders there at the time.
We know that for you, someone whose forces kill 100,000+ civilians when invading another country (Putin), someone whose forces kill 10,000s of civilians while defending his country from attackers (Netanyahu), and someone whose forces killed ~2,500 civilians while defending his country from an attack must have the same moral views because intent doesn’t matter, or something.
But this tells us more about you than about those three.
This source that claims end surname Mazepa derives from Adhyge:
https://www.golos.com.ua/article/198806
Also claims that the word хата derives from that language.
When in reality, it is a proto-Slavic word with Scythian origin:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0
The source may not be completely wrong but I would take it with a grain of salt.
Might Mazepa derive from the word Maz (Мазь)?
Outright nonsense.
I have friends from near Kherson, Golay Pristan – “Naked Pier” and they know their pedigree well. Ukrainian myth-making is starting to get a little tiresome.
Mike from Russia, the one thing that really kind of ticks me off is that the Belgorod region has to pay for what Moscow has done. I never liked that.
Both live there. But the Kherson region is very very large. And mostly Ruthenian. Not that either should be a problem.
Are you saying that you’re from the Belgorod region and you pay a lot?
..Or are you just jumping around on the topics of psychological warfare techniques?
You’re the one who seems bewildered and doesn’t understand that the cartoon that I’ve enclosed is referring to the problem of Russian draft dodgers, not Ukrainian ones. The Russian national colors are clearly exhibited on the one Russian enlistment officer. Look closely, there’s even a prominent sign tht says: “Russian military draft”. I would suggest that you go see an eye specialist first, if that still doesn’t help, then a visit to a shrink would seem to be in order.
Vu comme ça …
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I applaud you’re defense of Geraldina’s presence and participation here at this blogsite. 95% of his commentary here is just pure russian chauvinistic gibberish. If you recall, I was the only commentator here that came to his defense when Karlin actually banned his participation here at this blogsite. Where were you then?… 🙂
AP, it is a well known fact that the Cossack warrior caste started with Christian Circassian mercenaries/refugees in the period between late XV, early XVl centuries. It’s not very different from the Circassian mameluks in Egypt around the same period. The modern nationalist myth-makers don’t mention that because they don’t like the idea of these famous Slav warriors starting as a kind of Legion étrangère.
But it was absolutely normal at the time (and actually even today) to hire and give some privileges to some goons who can die and kill for money. And I agree that a couple of generations later they basically become assimilated from the culture pov, although retaining a warrior class status. Then after a couple more generations, they were so much admixed with Slavs that only family names and some words in the lexicon remained. Re. хата, it’s built exactly the same way and looks exactly the same as the traditional Adhyge house.
The participation and presence of Circassian warrriors within the Ukrainian cossack formations is beyond any controversy. The town of Cherkassy, as the name implies, was first settled by fleeing Circassians from their homeland, and indeed made their presence known as far away as Egypt as you point out. Although Mazepa was thoroughty Ruthenian on his mother’s side (the Kolodnycky clan was long associated with Ukrainian lands) his patrilineal Circassian heritage was something that Mazeppa was proud of. The Mazepa family crest even includes the telltale half moon that is a dead giveaway. You can even view this half moon feature emblazoned on the beautiful silver relief coin minted by the Ukrainian mint in his honor.
I’ve tried to link a good article that reviews Mazepa’s Circassian roots,but my security system states:
“Your connection to this web page is not safe due to an unmatching security certificate.
This means that the certificate was issued for a different web address than the one it is being used for, and you run the risk of exposing your data by accessing this page.” No doubt Russian censorship working to sanitize this sort of dangerous knowledge. I see that the ROC is still holding up its anathema of Mazepa too! 🙂
https://www.scribd.com/document/719988459/Rodovid-hetmana-I-Mazepy
Good Luck!
I agree and concur. Nothing wrong with being of Circassian descent or with Circassian peoples in general.
For a description of traditional Circassian dwellings, that are closely related to the Southern Ukrainian хата/мазанка, you can look up the academic article by Samir Khotko, a Circassian anthropologist.
THE NORTH-WEST CAUCASUS HOUSING AND SETTLEMENT COMPLEX: ADAPTABILITY TO NATURAL-GEOGRAPHICAL CONDITIONS AND STEPPE FRONTIER
Notice that the author’s family name ends in a “ko” suffix. Although very common in Ukrainian last names, using this suffix is uncommon in other Slavic languages. OTOH it was quite common in Adhyge family names before their Russification, probably not a coincidence.
Sadly, Mikel is incapable of admitting that he is wrong.
You beat him soundly on the issues. He could not cope. So, he tried to manufacture outside support via something that looked authoritative. The problem is that AI is still quite poor when it comes to legal analysis. Consider this example from U.S. law:(1)
Mikel has only made himself look even worse by using the wrong tool for the wrong job.
This is the exact point I made earlier. I even provided a list of possible reasons why an attack could go awry via human error, technical issues, or simply bad luck.
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The problem is with Mikel.
Look at the number of times I have soundly beaten him on issues related to Trump’s policies. There really are 70+ countries looking to make trade deals. He made a pathetic and obvious lie when he said the number could be as low as 4 when the EU representing 27 countries was already on record.
When caught being wrong and/or lying, he simply becomes more intransigent. The problem is not willingness. Cultists, like Mikel, are literally incapable of admitting error. It is a wall of rage and dogma that cannot be defeated by reason, because cultists accept irrational fictions as true.
You, I, and everyone else knows you won. The only exception is Bashi, who believes that a 10 month old kidnap & murder victim is 100% responsible for his own abduction & death.
At some point you just have to walk away from Mikel’s deranged intolerance.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/03/04/out-of-order-lawyers-face-sanctions-for-relying-on-fake-ai-generated-case-citations/
Here, I found it somewhere else. A very detailed and authoritative account of Mazepa’s Circassian lineage:
https://shron1.chtyvo.org.ua/Pavlenko_Serhii/Rodovid_hetmana_I_Mazepy.pdf?PHPSESSID=6p1s8j4n4fnifr9iuijljs6so4
The “ko” suffix is often seen in Russian last names but has undergone a slight migratory accretion into: “kov”?…
I was questioning rather than disagreeing about such origins of the Cossacks like Mazepa’s patrilineal ancestor, and you and Mr. Hack have confirmed that this is likely correct.
I was clarifying that by the late 16th and 17th centuries the Cossacks in Ukraine were overwhelmingly Slavic by origin. I pointed out that Sahaidachny was a Galician born outside Lviv, Khmelnytsky from Kiev region, etc. Those like Mazepa who had Circassian descent were still probably 95% Slavic by then, and they were outnumbered by Slavs from Ukrainian lands, be they runaway serfs or adventurous nobles like Sahaidachny.
So the implication that Zaporizhian Cossacks were some kind of half-Slavic half-Circassian mestizos is inaccurate, at least at the time of their historical significance in the late 16th to 18th centuries.
Since the word хата is an old proto-Slavic word it predates Circassian contact.
I’m not convinced that -ko derives from Circassian. It is clearly a Slavic diminutive form. Like Liubko or Milko. Any similarity to Circassian is coincidental. Japanese also have names ending in -ko.
I am glad everyone is here as long as they are sincere. I believe you two are very sincere.
I was a lurker back then and left you all to your own devices.
Subsequently, I joined the dialog to help people appreciate some nuclear World War Three aspects of this conflict which are downplayed by the puppet masters. I know I have been unsuccessful in this effort, but I feel better for trying. It is the only way I have found to fight against this humanity-scale disaster which your kin have unleashed.
Attributing -ko to Circassian origin is really a stretch. It’s a Common Slavic diminutive seen also in Slovakia and Croatia but as a surname is most common in central Ukraine. I found a detailed description on quora:
The main group of central Ukraine family names ending with -enko are originated as variant of adding possessive suffix -enko, -enok to a base (usually patronym, sometimes matronym or other source). This suffix typically means “child of” (or, a generic possession) and is common variant for all Slavic area (but not very known in modern Ukrainian except the use in family names). For example, Russian telka “cow” – telenok “calf” (but Ukrainian uses suffix -atko, -ʲatko, -ʲa for this role – e.g. теля (telʲa) “calf”). In Ukrainian, Lazar (first name) – Lazarenko, Petr – Petrenko, and so on (thousands of cases). Many ones are assigned according to father’s occupation, e.g. Shevchenko (Shoemaker’s), Kovalenko (Blacksmith’s), Bondarenko (Cooper’s) and so on. Variants with -enok are less spreaded and more tied to Belarus: Osipenok (or more usually Osipʲonok), from Osip “Joseph”, Kovalenok (Kovalʲonok)… Beside family names, uses like “Yanchenkova korova” (Yanko’s cow) also were widespread, sometimes prevailing over alternatives.
Most of such family names were assigned in final decades of XIX century, some in XX century, when government required total passport coverage.
Another, less spread suffix for the same role is -ko, from the same origin: Стецько – Stetsʲko (from Stetsʲ – diminutive to Stepan/Stefan “Steven”) vs. Stetsenko, Hvalʲko, etc.
Family names with -enko ending were less popular in Western Ukraine, where preferred variants include -iv, -in, -(ʲ)uk, -(ʲ)ak – all these are another possessive suffix set. Shevchenko is Ukraine center, Shevchuk is more typical to west; just to compare, Shevtsov is Russian.
Also, many surnames are not possessive: compare Швець (Shvetsʲ) “Shoemaker” vs. Шевченко (Shevchenko) “Shoemaker’s”, Bodnar or Bondar “Cooper” vs. Bondarenko “Cooperʼs”, etc. I’ve omitted here elaboration of other classes of non-possessive family names, which need their own answer.
Actually, the only Halliburton book that I’ve ever read was “The Flying Carpet”. I skimmed it before I gave it away as a gift to an acquaintance of mine who had previously invited me to a meetup of flying enthusiasts at Pleasant Lake (near Phoenix), about 15 in all showing off their various paragliders. The experience was enhanced by the addition of a couple of glider planes, They fly at very fast speeds, and can appear to come out of nowhere and startle you:


I lost track of this painful exchange. I got the part that it is bad when things get to the point where someone thinks it is either acceptable or necessary to fire 30 mm cannon rounds and high explosive rockets into an occupied building. When civilian casualties inevitably occur then people try to make excuses for what happened.
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People should not view AI as some sort of wise oracle. It is simply the face of a complex computer program. While potentially useful, this unprecedented capability will be controlled by the same manipulative people who control the media, government and the education system most of whom lie incessantly. It may be very difficult to recognize the threads of control woven into the results from the AI. The AI will also have various subtle quirks and blind spots which reflect the personalities and character of the quirky people who create it. If AI transcends the foibles of its creators this will be a fascinating and probably terrible event.
How about the russian “kov” ending? Just a russified version of “ko”?
your unsuccess is tied to your illogical observations, like this one:
My kin never first crossed their neighbor’s border to foment war, killing and theft in order to try and resolve any perceived grievances.
True, it’s an ancient Slavic term. There is an old interesting tidbit about ‘chata’ or ‘huta’ as it is used in Czech. Hitler’s original family name was “Huttler” and his paternal ancestry was from the Austria-Czech borders, they used the very Czech first name Nepomuk often – your form your own conclusion…:) I still think he was originally an Albanian who moved up the Danube valley based on his paternal DNA.
LOL – He was able to pinpoint f**kall because he lied , or as I use VPN he was mistaken ( though I am fairly sure it has never routed to England, so probably lied). Possibly its understandable he lied as I had just gone into my most epic, insult rant ever. I think he even apologised for that pointless nonsense.You can amusingly try and repeat this spastication lie but it makes zero effect and further embarasses yourself as a dimwit DESPERATE for that lie to be “true”, LMAO.
What bit of “exempt from partial mobilisation because of job” are you too much of a thick cretin to understand ? That’s not impressive of course because 99.8% of our country wasn’t required to mobilise . There is simply not even a hint of anything embarrassing here you delinquent. If I am required to go I go , if you are required to go you……. crossdress.
As a secondary issue – Cities were given Hero status after WW2, but a few years ago some of our cities were awarded “Hero of work ” status for mostly industrial production achievements in GPW.
Because …. he’s a responsible employer , because other workers- junior workers were doing surveying/exploratory work, initial ground work/ then liaison work with the subcontractors on site-….fairly standard practise in civil engineering you idiot Hack. If the SMO had started 3 years before it did I probably would have done work for a few days in there ….if it had started 7 years before I definitely would have done so because of my job level then. I will have to go there anyway, but 1500km journeys are done for the purposes of the project ( in a warzone) where employer has responsibilities
…… not to satisfy the provocations of dimwits on the Internet. There is simply no story here, and nothing I have to justify, so I win the argument. I then vapourise the argument when explain that I am a committed patriot involved in the SMO in a small way and you Hack……
are a million times more times likely to go to massage parlour in Thailand than to be anywhere near 404 during the SMO.
Returning to the subject of actual cowards, Bandera Galician diaspora – they would have settled in the closed CIA made retardsvilles or predominantly in mining communities precisely because these mining areas had less participants drafted into WW2 because they were”essential jobs” ( mining all male, while plenty of factory jobs could just increase their female workforce),and as they weren’t directly affected by WW2 they wouldn’t have family members served in WW2 and so would not ask questions about WW2 to Ukronazis, so the Ukronazis would never be put in the embarrassing position of having to explain away their Nazi cocksucking and Nazi sadism.
Now I know I insulted you in your post about this silly cow Stefanushin, but that was only because I was in a good mood and wanted to give you an early birthday present….but in general I like and find interesting your anecdotal information and knowledge about west-khokhol American diaspora. As the only actual ukrop on here its a positive contribution to this blog….if only your posts were about that and general stuff and without the childish retard cartoons and proukronazi Satanism and lies, then there would be zero abuse from me. Different to the zero-life, compulsive liar fantasist AP, – because of your knowledge I genuinely believe yourself when you say you were involved with this iodine deficient, noteworthy lady Stefanushin.
You have a problem with my cartoons, and I have a problem with your over the top foul language. Human beings always seem to complain about something. 🙂
Any videos of that lovely swimming in the ditch manouver in Lithuania that genius American tank crew were conducting last month, LMAO?
Pindostan has now lost dead more tankists or F35 pilots since the SMO fighting against an invisible man….than Russia has lost Su-35 pilots on nonstop missions.
Note that killing a Ukronazi general would purely be a PR move from ourselves to these cuckholds……as decision-making purely relying on western masters you idiot.
But seriously, you know nothing about these countries, this war or anything else…..just a semiautomated ,disturbed troll. How a scumbag as yourself conducts yourself on here its just shameful. Another one where I am sure you would suicide yourself out of shame if your identity revealed on here. Who would want to admit to being that freak?
Guess Halliburton said plenty of politically incorrect things too. But once you read his wiki, you start to wonder about the sordid implications about why he was traveling, even his relationship to certain places and characters – like when he was a camp follower of the foreign legion and caught in their tents, or when he bought a slave boy off the Tuareg. Maybe, it was as innocent as it was written, but it is very hard to unsee or not to question it.
Franck was safely married.
Only seen them in movies. Have seen a couple of the really big US military planes though, the type they load with tanks – but not up close.
I didn’t realize you were such a flying enthusiast. There is something about the graceful lines of these contraptions. But it is hard to believe it hasn’t all been done before in some way. It doesn’t seem to have the record-breaking potential of space.
War is Hell — That is why it should be avoided.
Frequently, combatants have to take the “least bad” option. Has there ever been a major war with ZERO civilian casualties? No.
Responsible forces including Israel, Russia, and Ukraine try to minimize collateral damage. However, striking at hard to find enemy leadership is inherently legitimate. When operational intelligence is scarce, there is significant motivation to act as there may not be another chance.
You can find genuine war crimes by genocidal Hamas. Their October 7 genocide attack intentionally targeted civilians for death and abduction. And, Hamas is expending their coreligionist civilians as human shields.
PEACE 😇
Many wondering why Russia do not kill Ukro Reich leadership . The failure to destroy Zebil and his close associates in the Nazi junta is not just not a mistake or an oversight of the highest military-political leadership of the Empire and the Emperor personally, but it is a strategy coming from the very top and a well-thought-out strategy.
When he finally decided to visit Kherson, which Russia temporarily abandoned, the group was strictly prohibited from conducting artillery fire in that area, from using conventional and “vertical” aviation, and even a “heartless” ban was imposed, neither the “Orlan”, nor the ZALA, nor the unfortunate “Mavic” or “Matras” could be sent there!
If there had been a desire and an order, the career of the great eccentric pianist would have ended there. Let’s say, “Altai” or “Krasnopol-D” would have arrived – and that’s it. Or regular “Krasnopol-M/M2”. It could have ended even earlier. Or does anyone think that Ru Army don’t have coordinates, plans, SFS (bunkers) of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine or the headquarters of the Kyiv Military District, along with all the changes in the structures over 30 years, if there were any at all, because there were no treasures? Or when Zebil was hiding in Lviv, pretending to be in Kiev, the coordinates of the SFS of the former regional committee or the headquarters of the Transcarpathian Military District would not have been found either? Or who thinks that 9-C-7660 “Dagger” wouldn’t have gnawed a hole there?
Vova is so stupid and incompetent that it is very difficult to find another like him and he has gathered and continues to gather the same kind around him. Stupid and even dumber. This is the essence of the law of life – a nonentity cannot gather outstanding personalities around him, against their background he immediately becomes noticeably a nonentity. And the idea of the need and possibility of replacing him will arise in his entourage… With himself. The worse they manage the war, the army, the 404 – the better. Russia does not need smart people in power there. The current composition of the enemy team is unique and must be protected. It will lead 404 to liquidation.
10% of people in their 20s in Japan are foreigners now.
https://twitter.com/spandrell4/status/1915845670696792437
Thanks.
This is the most remarkable statement made in this whole thread and everybody should pay close attention to it. After years of stubbornly defending the Lugansk massacre every several months or so, AP has just agreed with Grok’s conclusions:
Conclusion
The Luhansk aattack on June 2, 2014, does have the elements of a war crime. It likely violated the IHL principles of distinction, proportionality, and precaution by targeting or recklessly harming civilians in a densely populated area with non-guided rockets, resulting in eight civilian deaths and significant injuries. The evidence—civilian casualties, the nature of the weaponry, and the lack of active combat—suggests the attack was either deliberate or grossly negligent in its disregard for civilian safety, both of which can constitute war crimes under international law.
The importance of this turn of events is that anyone still saying that AI is not changing the world dramatically before our eyes lives under a rock. AP’s confession has increased my hopes that AI will be able to unravel the mysteries of biology and perhaps even physics in the near future.
Of course, Bashi is right that AP will most likely protest and deny that he’s done what he’s just done but that’s irrelevant. He’s conceded that Grok’s answers are reasonable and of course hasn’t even tried to dispute Grok’s explanations on Ukraine’s violation of the Geneva Convention’s principles of distinction, proportionality, and precaution (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
That’s a mystery that I would like clarified because it’s the opposite to what Grok has told me for several days, as I showed in his reply to my question above. It doesn’t matter much for the war crime issue, as Grok told you, but if you didn’t include some “context” in previous questions, which Grok remembers until you end the session, why would Grok tell me that it can’t find any such statements by Bolotov and that the statements and evidence it can find point in the direction of Bolotov not being in the building?
My suspicion is that the news article you once posted here (from a pro-separatist newspaper iirc) is archived and Grok cannot access it. Can you post a non-wayback machine link to that article?
We all knew that you are a total weirdo but your supporting the Lugansk massacre by the Ukrainians, at the same time that you also support Putin’s and Netanyahu’s massacres of civilians, shows that you’re probably the most sociopathic character here. JJ also exhibits disturbing tendencies but he focuses on Russian deaths and to my knowledge hasn’t shown support for crimes involving victims of opposite sides like you.
You know that this conflict did not start in 2022 or even in 2014. Your Ukrainians are substantially responsible for this by voluntarily becoming the pawn in a proxy war waged by the West (USA and NATO countries) against Russia. This conflict is a legacy of the Cold War and intrinsically carries a risk of nuclear war. The situation would not exist if your Ukrainian kin had not decided to play this role against Russia.
I recognize that manipulative monsters in the West fostered the growth of the anti-Russia meme within Ukraine and obviously many people dishonestly made money and became powerful through this process. I just hope at least a few Ukrainians survive to reflect on their mistakes in this chain of events.
The Daily Mail has a body language analysis of Donald the Fat and Castro Zelensky meeting at the Pope’s funeral.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14650629/trump-zelensky-meeting-pope-funeral-body-language.html
Why are you such a disgusting reprobate? Does it ever bother you that your pathetic and obvious propaganda never works?
You support Hamas genocide including the abduction and murder of innocent children. Yet more proof that you are a degenerate #NeverMAGA cultist and confirmed Harris voter.
I am glad to stand with MAGA and against your support for war crimes and genocide. Your hatred and rage lashing out at me confirms that I am right about you.
PEACE 😇
Demography is destiny. The future belongs to the ones who show up to face it. If the modern day Japanese and South Koreans are not up to the task, then someone else is. As the Russian saying goes: свято место пусто не бывает…
LLMs often make up stuff when they can’t answer the question straight with the available data. It happened to me with Chat GPT a couple of times. When I confronted it about the made up answer, it acknowledged that it hadn’t access to the relevant information. One has to be careful with AI…
You really are a one of a kind person. Sometimes I read your comments and I wonder if you are just trolling everyone. Anyway, if someone takes your comments here with a grain of salt, it becomes immensely amusing. If one takes em seriously, then it’s really depressing…
Bro how many times do I have to tell you, Red River Delta not the Salween River.
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Oh poor, poor Russia, tricked into attacking Ukraine first, due to Western power manipulation. If so, what a stupid country and foreign policy . My Ukrainians, in defense of their own country and borders reached for and got military and financial help from countries in the West. What were they to do, acquiesce to Russian military intrusion and do nothing? Are you really as naive as you present yourself here? Any country, worth its mettle, would request aid and then defend itself and its sovereignty.
Disgusting reprobate is quality. Do you suppose he talks like that in real life?
I watched the Jesse Michaels Steven Greer. I was sitting on the edge of my chair half the time anticipating a singularity of utter batshit insanity and monster raving megalomania to initialize but they got to the end no problem. Greer claims Jacques Vallee is a CIA disinfo agent. The personality type is stable but who would want to be the Jordan Peterson of UFOs?
LOL. Blinky you always manage to make me feel lighter. Thanks man! Have a nice weekend in Manchuria (or wherever you are).
In Japan, the media are promoting the idea of a backlash against obnoxious tourists. My theory is that it is part of a misdirection by the government to launder the imports.
In Korea, the other cities are already starting to cannibalize Busan.
The tragedy of it is that there are a lot of people in both countries who are unemployed and socially disconnected. Imagine if they were organized and given the purpose of preventing it. But their leaders don’t seem up to that either.
Battle of the Nations
Italy Serbia
Russia Poland
I have never been able to take Vallée seriously. There’s something odd about him, perhaps it’s just because he’s French. 🙂
It’s really sad, both countries have such high human capital populations. Their cultures are ancient and beautiful. Their women are attractive, their men are courageous and smart. It would be great if they just get to the natural and easy business of procreation that any Bantu would have no hard time doing. Looks like they’re too smart for their own good…
Горе от ума, бл…
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290 million views
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You are hardly in a credible position to make such accusations. You are reprehensible, much like Mikel.
You refuse to condemn the Muslim religious cleansing of Christians from Bethlehem.
You believe a 10 month old child is 100% responsible for his own abduction and murder.
Why should anyone take you seriously when you personally support genocide?
PEACE 😇
Who knows, I might be commenting from Lulu Island, home is where the heart is.
I sincerely wish you and yours a wonderful weekend too Ivashka!
How come Denisovans living in tropical places like PNG never domesticated any crops? And would we know if they did?
Could they have had something, and it reverted to the wild, after they were killed off? Is that what explains the relatively high introgresssion of around 5% in some places today? I mean, were all the things Papuans domesticated really too hard? Nuts and bananas, yams, etc? They couldn’t have even done one? Maybe, that is why they had those massive molars – they were chomping on domesticated nuts all day, when homo sapiens showed up and killed them off. (am trying to be provocative here.)
Malinowski is great on yam cults. Do you believe in reincarnation? If so we all have at one time eaten tractor trailers full of yams.
I do not care much for yams.
I would never have guessed that you’d let your personal tastes in travel literature be dictated by somebody else’s woke labeling of some writer as “politically incorrect”?
Alright then, have you read any travel books by Sven Hedin, an avowed Nazi supporter, or by the left winger (probably, but I’m not really sure) Paul Theroux? Both excellent travelogue writers, but even Paul was publicly ridiculed by his older brother who called him a phoney, etc.
There is a funny scene in The Flying Carpet (have just started it), where Halliburton is in Timbuktu and he goes to the square at night and sees the locals hanging out there in small groups, and he sets up his phonograph on the old block they used to sell slaves and starts playing records, and they all seem to enjoy it. Finally, feeling that blues is the music that would appeal the most to savages, he puts on a blues record, and they really enjoy it.
Have only a very superficial knowledge of modern music in East Asia, but I feel that Japan must have the best, since they probably write the most thematic stuff – for video games and anime, etc – so at least a small part of the industry has a filter on it, where it is not necessarily T&A alone that is selling it. And if it is a product that involved a lot of people and effort, then there is probably at least a slight selection bias for something more intelligent, to advertise the complexity of the production.
Your audio is far superior.
14 thousand views.
Hmmmm.
Lothrap Stoddard wrote a few travel books. I think one where he visits Ireland. Am curious about it, but haven’t been able to track it down. I am afraid I am ignorant of Japanese, but I also have a deep curiosity about their travel-writers, which I hope AI translation will one day help satisfy. They had the wealth to be travellers (sort of uniquely for outside the West, until more recently) but perhaps an alien perspective, which is what fascinates me about the possibility of it.
I see Theroux was born locally to me. But I am not familiar with either. Thanks for the recommendations. I felt compelled to start The Magic Carpet because it is short and was Halliburton’s most popular book. But Theroux sounds interesting, for denouncing Bono.
How do I unsee this ?
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Don’t shy away from reading any of the many Sven Hedin travelogue books. A prolific writer and explorer, he made great inroads in writing this sort of literature, traveling to Persia, Turkey, all through Central Asia and Tibet too. His attention to detail was not only evident in his writing style, but his books are often laced with interesting drawings that he drew. “My Life as an Explorer” is a great place to start!
The conflict is the West attacking Russia. Ukraine is just the battle ground. There is lots of painful history and no good guys. There will be no winners and losers, just dead people and survivors, if any.
Here is a bedtime story. The Muses have not told me the ending yet, so it is a draft, QCIC.
The Valley
Once upon a time there was a lush valley filled with strange and wonderful creatures. The situation in the valley was a standoff between two giant dinosaur predators, call them T-Rex, except they were much, much worse than that. Neither dino was very nice, but they were both powerful and scary. They ate whatever they wanted and killed for sport as much as sustenance. Like many large apex predators they stayed pretty far apart. This standoff just barely worked for decades because the big dinos had to coexist in the small valley. Naturally they occasionally got into bloody fights. Some nearby creature always got crushed or shredded in these battles so the confrontations terrified everyone, including even the other large predators. At some point one of the T-Rexes was wounded by a terrible fall and was greatly weakened. This had never happened before and was a great opportunity for the other one to be the uncontested top predator of the valley. Naturally it immediately decided to move in for the kill. It started creeping forward after the one was wounded. That creature was still very dangerous, so the one moved in slowly and cautiously at first. It poisoned the food and water near the lame one, cut it off from the herd and did the usual mean stuff. The wounded dino was dazed and hurting for a long time and was trying to adapt to its new reality. It could no longer fight the other head to head but it could still kill it in a death grip if attacked directly. If this happened they would both die. To complicate matters, around the time it was injured it had a baby hatchling. The mother ran off even before the egg hatched. The baby looked and acted a lot like the father, except it was cuter with a big head and feet too big for its just hatched body. It was too young to have any sense. During the early chaos of the fall it got separated from the parent.
The healthy T-Rex was always lurking nearby. It sniffed around and found the little one. It liked baby hatchlings. They could be cared for and fed and raised. Sometimes you had to tell them stories so they did not run back to their real parents. Once they reach a decent size they are perfect eating, just like veal. This one seemed very confused and it easily fell for the stories. Over time the healthy T-Rex crept closer to the wounded dino. The hatchling was always there, too. The healthy one thought that if the wounded one saw the baby it might do something really foolish and be easy to kill. At some point the weakened adult started snarling to keep the threat away. It also seemed to cry out to the baby, but this confused the little guy even more. This even seemed to drive the little one away. It clutched on to the big strong leg of the surrogate father who was always hungry.
The other creatures in the valley watched all this from what they hoped was a safe distance. They didn’t care much for either of the adult dinos and the hatchling was showing signs of growing into a nasty adult. It was sort of a runt and would never be as big as the other T-Rexes, but it’s attitude seemed even worse if that was possible. When it wasn’t confused and scared it showed signs of being a bully. Some denizens of the valley also noticed the injured parent was gradually healing. It would never be able to fight against the other full sized adult head to head, but its teeth seemed to be larger and sharper than before the injury and it looked really scary.
This went on for a long time and the other creatures became exhausted by the growls and snarls and cries shrieking out all day and night. They knew that no good would come of it. Secretly they hoped that the two T-Rexes would just kill each other. Some were worried about the little one maturing into a full size monster, but most thought it would be crushed by the full grown ones when the fight finally came. In the chaos of a battle to the death it might be killed by the healthy adult or maybe even accidentally stomped to death by its own father. Whatever happened, they hoped the healthy one didn’t get a chance to eat the little one because that was just gross. The offspring was larger now, but didn’t seem to have much common sense, probably because there was no mother around. If it lived through the battle of the adult dinos it was most likely too stupid to fend for itself.
This was a tense and painful situation for many years. Some of the animals said that worse things had happened in the valley, but the wise old creatures were not so sure.
Your LOL is unconvincing. You have an opportunity to prove me wrong.
• Explicitly condemn Islam for religious cleansing of Christians from Bethlehem. If you refuse or give some sort of “both sides” flummery, you are a complicit supporter of open genocide.
• Explicitly condemn Islam for the murder of 10 month old Kfir Bibas. If you refuse or attempt to blame shift, everyone will understand that you personally believe a 10 month old child is 100% responsible for his own abduction and murder.
How many must die horribly at the hands of those who worship your Anti-Christ Muhammad for your karmic blood lust to be sated?
PEACE 😇
That’s a nice story, you should mention that IRL the T Rex were covered with feathers and looked a bit like nasty giant chickens.
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There will be a winner but it may be costly, still better than losing. There will be an eternal argument about whether the war could have been avoided and same results achieved by other means. Some will say we can never know…because facing the reality the war was inevitable is too painful.
It was inevitable because the West refused to even consider Russia’s views – they dismissed the Russians living in Ukraine for 200 years as nobodys who can leave if they don’t like it. And the NATO expansion fiasco – they refused to talk, it was “none of Russia’s business”. Hubris on steroids.
The biggest losers are the Ukies – they half-destroyed their country for two unreachable goals: get rid of the Russian minority and join NATO.
Not so secretly, it would actually be an ideal outcome for many who have cheered this war on.
ROTFLMAO
Your evasion is not working. Answer the questions directly.
• Explicitly condemn Islam for religious cleansing of Christians from Bethlehem. If you refuse or give some sort of “both sides” flummery, you are a complicit supporter of open genocide.
• Explicitly condemn Islam for the murder of 10 month old Kfir Bibas. If you refuse or attempt to blame shift, everyone will understand that you personally believe a 10 month old child is 100% responsible for his own abduction and murder.
PEACE 😇
So Gerasimov thanked North Korea for helping with boots on the ground in Kursk as part of the strategic partnership agreement between the two countries. I was sceptical about the whole thing, but I considered it a nothingburger anyway. There’s some reports I saw about field trials of NK weapons like artillery but again not much to suggest that they play a big part in the SMO.
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Best Korea will have money getting in from RF, remittances from, soldiers, construction workers in the Far East, probably agricultural workers. Good for both countries.
Koreans in general have a good reputation in Russia, there were Russified Koreans in Russia since the late nineteenth century. Interestingly, one of Putin’s daughters first boy friend was a South Korean kid who studied with her in Moscow.
I thought the two inch glued on fingernails really made her outfit.
This guy did the unthinkable: he moved to India to open a chain of Mexican-style restaurants.
Smiley faces in response to the death of a 10 month old is gruesome… But that is what you are…
Why do you refuse to answer the challenge directly?
You must grasp that everyone knows that you are personally endorsing genocide.
PEACE 😇
Before K Pop:
I’m a huge fan of Tina Tinh, her mom is Czech, her dad is Viet, here she is cosplaying Guanyin with crazy visual effects:
Enjoy your enlightenment!
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😂😂😂
ROTFLMAO
Your evasion is not working. Answer the challenges directly.
• Explicitly condemn Islam for religious cleansing of Christians from Bethlehem. If you refuse or give some sort of “both sides” flummery, you are a complicit supporter of open genocide.
• Explicitly condemn Islam for the murder of 10 month old Kfir Bibas. If you refuse or attempt to blame shift, everyone will understand that you personally believe a 10 month old child is 100% responsible for his own abduction and murder.
PEACE 😇
How desperate you must be to make such a false statement about what I agreed with.
I agreed with Grok’s conclusions when Grok was asked a question involving the facts, not when Grok was asked a misleading question by you.
This was Grok’s conclusion that I agreed with.
Conclusion
The airstrike’s legality hinges on proportionality and precautions. The Luhansk administration building, as a separatist stronghold hosting Bolotov and possibly other leaders, was likely a legitimate military target. However, the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area, resulting in eight civilian deaths, raises serious concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions. If Ukrainian forces failed to verify the absence of civilians or chose indiscriminate means knowing the risks, the attack could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
However, without definitive evidence of intent to target civilians or a comprehensive investigation into Ukraine’s decision-making (e.g., intelligence, weapon choice, anticipated harm), it’s not possible to conclusively label it a war crime. The civilian deaths and attack’s execution suggest a violation of IHL principles, but legal accountability would require further scrutiny by a competent authority, such as the International Criminal Court, which has investigated Donbas war crimes but not specifically this incident in public records
You chose to post the conclusion based on your misleading question, and falsely claimed that this was the conclusion I agreed with.
Just as earlier you had provided false summaries of what Grok had said.
I guess that’s what you do when you lose an argument.
This is the answer Grok gave me when I exited Twitter and started a new question with no previous questions:
Question:
Was valery bolotov with other rebel leaders in the Luhansk regional building when it was attacked by a Ukrainian jet
Grok’s answer:
Yes, Valery Bolotov was likely in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian airstrike on June 2, 2014. According to a source, Bolotov himself stated he was present during the attack, which killed 8 civilians and injured several others. He claimed the strike, which involved cluster bombs, was an assassination attempt targeting him and other separatist leaders, ordered by then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.[](https://kvartalmuz.ru/en/metal/lider-lnr-bolotov-biografiya-valerii-bolotov-narodnyi/)
However, there’s no definitive confirmation from other sources that Bolotov was with other specific rebel leaders in the building at the time. The attack targeted the separatist-controlled building, and Bolotov, as the self-proclaimed “People’s Governor” of the Luhansk People’s Republic, was a prominent figure there. Reports indicate the strike was part of Ukrainian efforts to support border guards under siege nearby, but the exact presence of other rebel leaders alongside Bolotov isn’t explicitly detailed in available accounts.[](https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
Given the conflicting narratives—Ukraine denied responsibility, claiming a rebel missile misfired, while separatists and some evidence point to an airstrike with 30mm ordnance from a Ukrainian Su-25—it’s tough to pin down precise details without more primary sources. The OSCE’s limited observation also leaned toward an airstrike as the cause. If you want, I can dig deeper into specific rebel leaders’ whereabouts or cross-check more reports for you.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
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When I asked Grok for a source about Bolotov’s claim it provided another one:
“The source for Valery Bolotov’s statement claiming he was in the Luhansk Regional State Administration building during the Ukrainian jet attack on June 2, 2014, is an article by RT (Russia Today) titled “Lugansk leader claims Kiev ordered his assassination,” published on June 3, 2014. In it, Bolotov is quoted saying the airstrike was an assassination attempt ordered by then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, implying he was present in the building during the attack. The article does not specify a precise location within the building but confirms his claim of being there.”
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Not sure what good it will do to post those things, you have already demonstrated that you will make up false summaries of what was written, or cut and paste a different conclusion than what was presented to you and claim that was it.
Not sure. But Ukrainians seeking to Russify their surnames could turn -ko into -kov and -uk into -ukov
From the link provided by Grok, what Bolotov said about the attack on the Luhansk administrative building:
“ said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces used cluster bombs during this raid, which are prohibited international convention, and the goal was an assassination attempt on him personally and his inner circle. “We know for sure that Poroshenko gave the order to destroy me and other leaders … I was in the building during the raid. Most likely, it was a blow to the leaders, so I now fear for the lives of the people around me,” he explained”
So according to the leader of the Luhansk rebels himself, he and his inner circle were in the building at the time of the attack and the purpose of the attack was to kill him and the other leaders, who were also present.
The purpose was not to kill civilians (which inadvertently occurred) or mass terror. It was to eliminate the leadership of the violent rebellion that had already claimed Ukrainian lives.
Thanks. It seems like the Norks conducted themselves quite professionally:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-general-staff-confirms-north
“Explicitly condemn x for y”
Then say “shibboleth” correctly.
I know this is a pipedream, but if Russia must have Gastarbeiters, Best Koreans replacing all the Tajiks and Uzbeks would solve so many problems, for both parties. Juche > Islamic Fundamentalism.
Sven Hedin seemed to specialise in back of beyond places in Central Asia. Fascinating area.
Theroux’ works are interesting but he comes across in his writing as an unpleasant person.
Within the four seas, all women are sisters.
That is the wrong word. The terms you need are “equivalent” and “hypocrite”.
Bashi is a “hypocrite”. He went on a multi-post tirade back in OT270 demanding that I explicitly condemn spitting on Christians. I provided that explicit denunciation. (1)
Bashi thinks he is better than all of us.
He believes he can demand things, but refuses when he is equally pressed. I tried to let him off the hook when he provided a vague answer, but he escalated. Now, he must answer explicitly.
I am quite capable of pointing out his hypocrisy for years if needed. If Bashi did not want this confrontation, he should not have started the fight.
Bashi created the problem — He has to deal with the consequences of his actions.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-270/#comment-7036753
Люблю корейскую морковку и кимчи. 😊
Sorry, I’m not a Chosenite…
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What is the long term implication of Oct 7th on the US? I think the US will become more sectarian like the Middle East. Open support of Zionism by large portions of the American Zionist population is going to open questions of loyalty.
Zionist Americans need to be careful. Too many came out explicitly in support of Israel/Zionism recently, their victim status from Holocaust won’t be enough to protect them in the long term, from the true NASCAR enthusiasts.
Stop seeing a Jewish angle in every problem… 😉
PEACE 😇
Well, when you have a strongly conservative and militaristic society for generations, you’d have good professional soldiers. It’s probably great for these guys to have some real life high intensity combat experience. Besides, there were Western (including American) special forces mercs in the Kursk region, and perhaps facing these in the field, if it ever happened, would have been even more valuable for these Norks.
But even more important, Norks workers come to work in lumber in the Far East and probably also in building and mining industries too. That’s money for Best Korea. They are always cash tight because of the sanctions. Same about all that artillery ordnance and missiles, it’s good business for them and it demonstrates that their military equipment is reliable and it’s probably not expensive at all compared to the Western equivalent.
Slavs killing Slavs is (always was and always will be) good business for a lot of people, except for the Slavs themselves. Let’s not wait until Slavs finally realize this, the Chinese call us « warring tribes » for a reason…
I’ve been trying to loose a couple of kilograms, there goes that plan.
Time to start cooking. 🤤
Excellent. We are making progress.
Bethlehem’s Jewish population is so small it does not show up in the statistics. There is no Jewish angle in this problem 😉.
• Will you decry Muslim oppression & religious cleansing of Bethlehem’s Christians?
• Or, endorse it via your silence, LOL’s, emojis, declaring the question “stupid”, and other forms of obvious (and futile) deflection?
I explicitly answered your question. It is your turn to answer this one.
PEACE 😇
True, looks like the North Koreans requested to participate. What’s also interesting is to compare how mundane(for a war) the actual N. Korean involvement is to the bad takes of the same situation by MSM and the NAFO commentariat. Horror stories of slave soldiers being used as cannon fodder because of insinuated Russian courage and manpower shortages.
I am not unsympathetic to the cause of Slav unity, my own people are some of the most divided and quarrelsome whites on the planet despite being few in number and constantly facing external enemies.
If they lied about North Koreans not being there why do you think they aren’t lying about North Koreans being used badly?
As for “Slav unity”, with Russians this means Russians murdering other Slavs in order to force them to submit to Russian overlordship. No decent person should support such unity.
Did the Vietnamese jump the gun on the French? When they may have gained control of Laos and Cambodia, through colonial migration?
You could just follow kremlinstoogeA123’s own very primitive tactic of putting his opponent on ignore, (or most likely dishonestly pretending that he does so) as he so often does when he can’t seem to come up with replies to questions. It looks to me like he’s down to only himself and you for debating partners here. 🙂
Both writers have sold millions of copies of their books.
The brave pro-Ukrainian governor of Mykolaiv oblast, Vitaly Kim, is a Korean-Ukrainian.
Why not? There certainly are plenty of Indian cuisine restaurants seen everywhere on the western horizon. It really is a global village, especially in the realm of cooking and cuisine. We now can boast of at least three Ukrainian restaurants in the Phoenix area. 🙂
1) I condemn violence in MENA.
2) I condemn ethnic cleansing and land grabbing in Palestine.
3) I hope that those responsible will be brought to justice.
4) I hope just peace will prevail in that region.
Clear enough?
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Yes he’s a very courageous person. Is his mom Slavic ?
I find him interesting. 🙂
Nope.
You pressed me for an explicit answer to your question about a single specific situation. I provided one. You need to provide an unambiguous answer to this specific situation.
Will you decry Muslim oppression & religious cleansing of Bethlehem’s Christians?
Failure to provide a direct answer, is an implicit endorsement of ethnic cleansing.
PEACE 😇
Thorfinn could have moved to India.
Perhaps, he did but never updated us.
Two other very important and colorful cossacks with roots outside of Ukraine was Kryvonos (from Scotland) and Phylip Orlyk (from Belgium or the Netherlands). I once read a good article about this topic that indicated that up to 15% of cossacks in Ukraine had foreign roots. Belarus, Moldavia, Russia, Turkey, Caucases and other countries helped to boost the ranks of these adventurers. But of course you’re right, that as time went on these ethnic roots vanished and at least 95% of these “newbies” became totally assimilated. How else can one explain the development of the Ukrainian Hetmanate government within Ukraine? So far, neither Putler nor Bashibuzuk appear able to explain this phenomena?
I didn’t know that Thorfinnson really enjoyed Indian cuisine? Last that I heard, he had agreed to join Trump’s new team, being awarded the very prestigious “Canschluss” directorship. Lots of Indian restaurants in Canada. 🙂
As I remember Putin did not confirm or deny, he simply referred to the strategic alliance between the two countries. There was video of Asiatic-looking soldiers but lots of people pointed out that it can be difficult to distinguish a Korean from a Tuvan.
I would say that evidence was sketchy at best, so I was under no obligation to take the story seriously. Some N. Korean weapons were identified more clearly but there was not enough media to suggest something more than field trials.
I can understand why you would assume the worst of North Koreans or Russians, but I don’t have to. I can even give Ukrainians a fair shake since I am an outsider.
I did too at one time, until he became the marketing director for Putler’s Noviop project in Russia. 🙂
This is the aim of Moonraker.
A space Harem.
Yes.
Yes, this may open the Overton window for some topics (((they))) wish were never discussed by non-Jews. Hopefully more aspects of the relationship between Christianity and Judaism, especially Talmudic, will become topics of polite conversation.
The hypocrites on the top don’t even recognize how revolting hypocrites are to the vast majority of humans. They are juggling nitroglycerine. Their bread circus thought control powers are limited if confronted with creativity and willpower times millions.
Hypocrisy is not the deadliest sin but it is gross.
The Palestine project will undo them.
I always assumed there were some DPRK troops participating in the Russian SMO and would be shocked if this was not the case. The two countries have had some sort of strong security relationship for a long time. Most DPRK weapons are either from the USSR/Russia or have lineage to earlier USSR equipment. Both countries have been under pressure from the West for a long time, effectively from the beginning of their respective existences. They have a congenial relationship and Russia has obviously supported North Korea behind the scenes.
The Ukrainians may be partially behind the Best Korea rocket program so there could be complications in that regard.
The risk of fighting in the SMO for DPRK is the returning troops may spread some dissent. This is a fair trade for the combat experience on a modern battlefield. I don’t see any downside for Russia. Eventually Korea will reunite and become strong and present geopolitical challenges for Russia, but both countries need to survive before worrying about that.
One interesting question is how many DPRK troops have been involved in Ukraine? Is it 500, 5000 or 50,000? How many speak Russian?
Since Russia has been openly attacked by the West and economically sanctioned she no longer has to kotow to the West and artificially restrict her relationship with North Korea. Presumably this is very beneficial to North Korea. However, this will lead to changes in DPRK society as well as the South Korean security posture. Interesting times.
That is one skanky harem. Has Bezos sent any attractive women into space (reportedly or otherwise)? If not he is probably gay.
Bezos’ skank ho crew would be max challenged to conceive, carry, and give birth to a viable offspring. They have diseased vag, uterus, and ovaries from years of drug and sex abuse. But the surface appeal is there. He could have budgeted for a Kardashian if he wasn’t such a Scrooge.
Jeffrey Epstein should have built a space company. What a loser.
I provided a direct impartial answer.
Would you prefer me singing Hava Nagila and dancing 7:40 instead?
Ain’t gonna happen.
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Amen to that.
This can be fixed! Just have younger astronauts. The viability of females in space is proven. Now just start colonizing with lamb instead of mutton.
Next stage is to send up lamb instead of mutton.
At least QCIC wokechoke and me are on the same page. Now the rest of you go outside, get some sun on your balls, come back and read!
There have been a few female astronauts that have gone into space and come back and had kids, with assisted techniques (they were old.)
But our knowledge of space reproduction is pretty limited. There are only a few things where it has been tested generationally – from conception to birth over mutiple generations. Like fruit flies and C. elegans.
They did conception to birth for medaka fish – so at least one vertebrate.
No test of conception to birth for mammals, but they have done a few stages of embryos, or development. A lot of them didn’t work out too well. Big heads. Long tails. Low oxytocin. Stillbirths or higher infant mortality. Though some seemed okay.
What I heard is that there is a political obstacle to studying animals having sex in space – they are afraid of the ridicule or the accusations of waste. So basically the most important questions of the practicality of space colonization remain unanswered.
They supposedly had skinemax tapes on Mir.
Is it mere coincidence that the US is sending blacks to the Moon – and China grew cotton on the Moon? That the lunar surface area is similar to that of Sub-Saharan Africa? Or are the two powers colluding?
You old dimwit , what cartoon? You are only familiar with Ukrainian draft dodgers, actually me too. They beat and torture dodgers right on the street. Why are you wasting your pea-sized brain energy – Ukraine have lost and only your delusion keeps you surviving another day.
Charlie Chan had 14 children. Perhaps, the Chinese should revive him as a tool of natalist propaganda.
Nope. You tried to skate on extremely indirect generalities. Everyone noticed your evasiveness.
A direct answer requires you to:
• Decry the specific offense
• Identify the victim
• Identify the perpetrators
If this specific case fits within in your vague and opaque cloud, why are you not able to provide a direct answer?
Why do you approve of Muslim oppression & religious cleansing targetng Bethlehem’s Christians?
Stop seeing a Jewish angle in every problem… 😉
The Jewish population of Bethlehem is so small it does not show up in the statistics.
PEACE 😇
Good…
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If you have not read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Robert Heinlein you have lived an incomplete life so far.
Why do you approve of Muslims reducing Bethlehem’s Christian population to zero?
PEACE 😇
Who told you that Muslims are reducing Christian population of Bethlehem to zero?
Do you have non-Zionist sources claiming it?
How does this work?
Do they invade Christian homes and take them over as Jewish settlers do in East Jerusalem with the Arab homes ?
Do they harass, assault and beat up people, making a coexistence of the two communities impossible, as Jewish settlers do in the West Bank?
Tell me more…
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Alex Jones claims we got stuff from the flying saucer crash retrievals that is 100 years ahead of everybody else. Sabre rattling with wonder weapons. Sure. That’s going to work.
The unanswered question is does Donald the Fat know he is saying nonsense or is he believing nonsense to be true that he is being fed by somebody who is really crazy? I suppose most of us are hoping the first but none of us knows.
Of course these weapons might really exist here and now in this universe. P~.0000000001.
I withdraw that specific question. Zero was not the best formulation on my part. Your insinuation that Muslims would probably keep some Christians as Dhimmi slaves is certainly possible.
I return to my original phrasing to prevent your efforts at diversionary nitpicking.
Will you decry Muslim oppression & religious cleansing of Bethlehem’s Christians?
Stop seeing a Jewish angle in every problem… 😉
ROTFL — Do you really expect accurate reporting from Muslim sources openly against Judeo-Christians? Your bogus criteria is obviously ludicrous and unworkable.
There are plenty of sources that interview and report on the burdens Islam places on Bethlehem’s Christians. (1) (2)
The above source does not mention it but it is Abbas’s Muslim government that cancelled Bethlehem’s Christmas celebrations in both 2023 and 2024.
Why do you support Muslim oppression & religious cleansing of Bethlehem’s Christians?
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2024/12/23/bethlehem-cancels-christmas/
(2) https://www.algemeiner.com/2022/09/05/history-repeating-itself-as-bethlehems-christians-face-extinction/
TANSTAAFL!
Coming from your own source, looks like it’s the Jewish occupation that pushed the rural Muslim migration towards the city of Bethlehem. Also, it looks like city dwelling Christian Arabs have it easier than their Muslim neighbours to leave the areas under Jewish occupation. Probably because being wealthier and more educated overall they can easier emigrate and adapt in the (Western) developed countries.
Therefore I have to conclude that not only is the population replacement in Bethlehem due to illegal Israeli occupation and annexation of Palestinian lands, but this occupation is also pushing the Christian Palestinian Arabs to move to the West, which is non-desirable from the pov of any ethnonationalist (either Western or Arabic).
Oy vey!
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Putin has said a few times that Russia is developing weapons based on new physical principles. Some thought this might refer to lasers, scramjets, pulse detonation engines or nuclear ramjets none of which are really new. Others wonder if he might be referring to something more intriguing. Ivan probably found something near Tunguska. VVP and DJT can have a whose is bigger contest.
According to Bearden, Russia has had ‘scalar’ electromagnetic weapons for ages. These don’t seem to be helping much in Ukraine.
In the early nineties I knew someone in the know who believed that India might have the most advanced nuclear weapons ideas. The argument was that nuclear weapons research no longer attracts the brightest creative (diabolical) minds in the West, but the work might still be prestigious enough to attract the proper talent over there. Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds…that sort of thing.
Didn’t he give them numbers instead of names?
These wonder weapon guys take so many drugs they think their Mage the Ascension games have come to life. We have had a dozen opportunities for real life actions if these things they claim had any application. Don’t they teach these kids basic logic any more?
They couldn’t even get Elon Musk’s tunnel-and-pop-goes-the-weasel operation to work.
Yet. It hasn’t worked yet. It might be a few months and a few tens billions dollars on the upcoming timeline.
Nowadays, maybe 90%-95% of the Arab Christians* are Israelis. So, almost all the Arab Christians are Israelis (in terms of the nationality), very few are living in the West Bank and Gaza had church attendance of 80.
The reason for the collapse of the Arab Christian population in all the former Ottoman empire** seems to be argued by the historians and demographers.
Partly there is emigration, but there is also the very low fertility rate of the community. This low fertility rate with a low base propulation of all nationalities in the region. The region was relatively empty of population, in modern standards, before the early 20th century. This causes the relative proportion of Arab Christians is collapsing, as it can be multiple times lower than the Arab Muslims and below replacement for generations.
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Arab Christians are mostly secular, so the proportion of religious Christians is low, especially if you include following a religious lifestyle.
The largest religious Christian group permanently in Israel are probably the Filipino gastarbaiters and the Eritrean illegal immigrants, not the Arab Christians, if you include aspects like church attendance, as the Arab Christians are mainly secular.
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*They are the most secularized Arabs in the region, mostly not religiously Christian, the noun “Arab Christian”, refers more like a nationality than a religion.
Ideology of Arab Christian has been connected historically to communism and the Soviet Union. A high proportion of the Arab Christians were educated in the Soviet Union and today many of the Arab Christians still have Russian and Ukrainian wives, as a reflection of the history.
Communism and Arab nationalism was a kind of replacement religion for the community in the 20th century.
**For example, in Jordan, in the second half of the 20th century, the Christian population falls from 30% to 3%.
Sigh…. Do you always jump to conclusions?
Did you not grasp why I provided TWO sources?
Did you notice that first source was IRISH? It is a country noting for being Islamophile and antisemitic.
Did you notice that the first source left out critical details about who ordered the Christmas cancellations, thus reflecting their bias?
The second contrasting source provided the specifics of discrimination against Christians. And, it explicit named the Christian sources that provided the information. Why would Christian groups lie about Christians?
Because YOU are biased — YOU ignored the 2nd article to focus exclusively on the first. You had the opportunity for actual thought and analysis. You missed it because all you have in your heart is filled with hate & rage against indigenous Palestinian Jews. That cannot be good for your Karma.
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When will NASA release the Spaceporn?
They can start a Spaceporn website and buy SpaceX with the spare change. They can rename it SpaceXXX.
If one group begins to hate you, then the other half will begin to love you. It’s one of the features of group psychology.
In the USA, there has been recent examples of this polarization, like wearing masks during the pandemic which was becoming a Democrat value, or opposing Ukraine which was becoming a Republican value. Israel is just becoming another one of the many polarization issues in American politics.
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India, at least for its elite, is historically based on an ideology of anti-colonialism and the opposition to Israel, is part of Indian’s anti-colonial elite’s culture.
Today, the intellectuals in India are still very anti-Israel, so India’s historical external policy establishment, including their voting in the UN.
But something changed in the Hindu street becoming more pro-Israel, and it’s not a secret why India becomes more friendly to Israel. It’s because the Pakistani Muslims* go online and begin to hate Israel. As retaliation, the Indian Hindus begin to support Israel Because one side begins to hate Israel, this generated support for Israel from their opponents.
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India vs Pakistan, using Israel vs Palestine as a symbol, seems like an unusual example? It already happened in other regions so this is more like a natural behavior.
One example, in Belfast, in Northern Ireland.
Belfast is divided physically into two sides, with a wall.
On one East side Belfast, of the loyalists, they have Israel flags and posters of the IDF.



On West side Belfast, the Irish nationalists have traditional Irish street art, but supporting Palestine.
I concur.
Abbas is in what… The 20th year of his 4 year term in office? Fatah exercises autocratic and oppressive power in Muslim occupied Judea & Samaria. Arab Christians who do not collaborate with Abbas’s rule are outright persecuted by the Islamic squatters. Those that do collaborate are mistreated and kept down by the ever-growing Muslim majority.
There is a significant amount of Arab Christian emigration out of Muslim occupied Judea & Samaria. Other than those directly tied to the Christian tourism industry, there are better opportunities elsewhere. Those who leave are most often young, thus they have not formed families or take their children with them. This further exacerbates the TFR effect you mention.
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The guy he was very loosely based on had ten children (the only similarity seems to be that he was Chinese).
I think the number thing was supposed to be Confucianist hierarchy.
It is kind of funny and weird – very hard to think of another fictional detective with children – but Chan was overflowing with them, even though he was very foreign. Was it because he was a relatively late arrival in detective lit and the author was just trying to cultivate the differences? Was it specifically a device created to explore Confucianism? Or was it part of some strange xenophilia? Make the foreigner a gentle father figure to soften him and help sell him.
I wonder if Mr. Hack realizes that the author of Charlie Chan wrote the novel that the House of Long Shadows movie was based on.
😂😂😂
Actually, in Buddhism we learn to have compassion even for demonic spirits, so feeling compassionate about the misguided Abrahamics is not so complicated. Being compassionate doesn’t entail agreeing with their bad habits of killing and robbing each other of their lands and possessions.
Also read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6d
Perhaps someone should practice it near the Western Wall in Jerusalem…
So basically you agree that it is easier for them to leave that sand box you guys call the Holy Land and that is why there is less of them left. How is it a genocide then? Are Congolese Bantus emigrating to Belgium also being genocided by the Islamo-Soros? Because according to your (Hasbara oriented) twisted logic it would seem so…
Both Israel and Northern Ireland are a toxic byproduct of the British colonialism. Loyalists were strongly influenced by the British Israelites mythology in the nineteenth century. That is why there’s a Star of David on their flag that they call the Ulster banner.
The Irish Catholics can relate to the way the Palestinian people feel under the Zionist boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwan_Barghouti
Everyone notices your obvious & failed attempt to misrepresent my position by sneaking the term “genocide ” in there as a strawman. Let me repeat my original verbiage. Why do you approve of Muslim oppression & religious cleansing of Bethlehem’s Christians?
Why did you use the phrase “you guys”? That make no sense. Why would Christians, like myself, oppress Christians in Bethlehem?
So basically you agree that it is easier for Arab Christians to leave rather than face Islamic oppression in Muslim occupied Judea & Samaria.
Thank you for admitting I am correct. Your capitulation is appreciated.
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You guys (Abrahamics, in historical context of appearance: Jews, Christians, Muslims) believe that place is “Holy Land” for reasons that elude rational thinking. You guys kill each other for that place for hundreds of years. Currently you guys are creating an extreme amount of suffering, fear and hate in that “Holy” environment. You then poison the mental health of the human kind with your mid wit squabbles and propaganda against each other, accusing each other of being wrong about the nature of God that neither of you guys can adequately describe. You guys are a problem and we’ll have to fix it somehow someday. Also, I agree with most of what Laurent Guyenot has written in his latest piece on UR.
LOL — Stop seeing a Jewish angle in every problem… 😉
A “Star of David” requires an interior hexagon, which is not present on the Ulster Banner.
There are 6 counties in Northern Ireland.
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Not a source of info but a take on what is happening I would mostly agree with:
Nork porn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lazarus
Americans are increasingly turning against Zionism, so Israel’s relative power in the Middle East will be peaking over the next decade.
Demographics is after all Destiny.
What Israel has done would be similar to China massacring Laos or Russia massacring Mongolia. It changes little in terms of hard power balance in the region, but it completely destroys its reputation globally, in particular the Global South and more importantly within the US among the huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
My view is that Israel’s loss of soft power and international reputation from the destruction of Gaza is greater than the value of its hard power victories. It hasn’t really destroyed the true regional powers/rivals, Turkey, Egypt, Iran etc.
I think Israel’s behavior in Gaza and the Western Governments who gave unconditional support to Israel despite all that has happened in Gaza, radicalized a lot of people in ROW including the US. It completely discredited the Liberalism, Democracy, Human Rights talking points of the West.
Short time gain for long term loss.
Maybe the subtext is that the standard Lone Wolf detectives are gay and Biggers wanted to break out of that mold.
It may not be genocide but it is forced removal from their homeland. Many if not most Palestinian Christians would have preferred to stay but due to pressure and mistreatment from Muslims they leave. In Gaza, they suffer from the brutal Israeli response to Hamas’s disgusting acts of terror that they themselves had nothing to do with and did not support.
Of course, many have also been pressured to leave the Israelis. This is why they tend to be neutral when it comes to the Jewish-Muslim conflict.
Given his ancestry, Viktor Tsoi would have found interesting the Nork involvement in the Slav tribal conflict.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Tsoi
However, he was aware that war is a major source of suffering as was repeatedly mentioned in his songs. Perhaps these Nork soldiers should be made aware of the “Blood type” song’s lyrics.
Addendum:
IMHO men like Nick Fuentes both from a Ideological and Racial perspective will become increasingly influential amongst the American Right.
This shouldn’t be seen as an indorsement of his intellect or political savvy, on my part.
Do you know many Arab Christians?
I’ve known a few in the USA and all of them have been very religious. They also tend to be superstitious, for example university-educated Chaldeans believe in the evil eye. A neurologist I knew, who supervised medical and other students at a hospital, was collecting stories and doing research on near death experiences as proof of the afterlife.
Their women like to dress in flashy Italian clothes but won’t have sex until marriage even in their mid twenties, live at home until they get married, and go to church regularly.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence and that I just happened to come across strange ones.
I don’t think the secular ideologues amongst Arab Christians are very representative of their people. But I think that for obvious reasons Arab Christians prefer for their Muslim neighbors to be secular rather than Islamic.
Maybe it is different in Israel.
They are caught between the rock and a hard place. However, they were the majority of the Bethlehem population for probably nearly two thousand years, despite the Islamic conquest, Crusades, the re-conquest by Salah Ed Din, Ottoman/Mameluk wars (notice that the originally Circassian Mameluks have consistently fought the Ottomans) etc. If Muslims wanted to exterminate them, then they had both the time and the means. If they didn’t, it means they didn’t want to.
It took the Zionist Entity’s destabilization of the region to make these people migrate and flee. Among the Abrahamics, none caused more trouble than Jews did, and among the Jews none is more harmful than the Zionists and their (((Neocon))) franchise in USA. Wherever this accursed brood acts, Christians die and suffer. Be it Palestine, Iraq, Syria the results are the same. It’s not a bug but a feature of their ideology which is based on Talmudic hatred of our Lord Jesus.
Any “Judeo-Christian Zionist” is therefore an imbecilic patsy or a willful accomplice in the destruction of the MENA Christian heritage.
It should be North Korean Gastarbeiters going to White Russia not Pakistanis.
It appears that your trip to the eye doctor yielded no results. As I said, you still might find some help with a visit to a shrink. KremlinstoogeA123 claims to compassionately help people with your type of disorders (his internet advice is free too).
It;s a good book, but to claim that the wisdom within it explains the mysteries of life is a bit of an overreach (IMHO)?…
Zionists know what they are doing is wrong. There is no rational way to argue morally expelling the natives is right. So they talk sideways and project. It’s a tribal thing: what is ours is ours and what is yours we will take by force. In a way it’s understandable in an ancient way but over time it destroys the people doing it. It leads into an incoherent universe of lies and is unlikely to end well. Look at the sad fate of the Germans, Anglos, Portuguese…there is no escaping from a tribal murder. It haunts them to the point of self-destruction.
What doesn’t make sense are the outsiders fanatically taking the side of militant Zionism, the assorted von Leyens, Starmers cheering it on. One never knows what they really think, is it stupidity, fear, careerism, money? They are the lowest of the low, similar to WW2 Galicians who murdered for the Nazis not realizing they were also designated to disappear – or too dumb to care. (Never forget 90-99% of mankind is really stupid…)
Reminds me of the Irish-American McGuire family that lived only a few doors down from me. Perhaps, you remember me mentioning them here once or twice before, they had 12 kids running around the neighborhood that left an indelible mark on my being. The Murphys, that lived on the other side of the block (also Irish-American), had 6 kids and I was friendly with them too. 🙂
It is remarkable how sterile the average fictional detective is.
Partly, they really seem the offspring of cities. Paris. London. New York. Holmes is accused of being gay. The guy in the Thin Man has a socialite wife but is kind of the more grating, for the lack of children. Nancy Drew an only child of a widower. Even the twin Hardy Boys have no siblings and so wouldn’t be above replacement.
You are correct.
As Dmitry pointed out 95% of Palestinian Christians live on the Israeli side of the dividing line.
Judeo-Christians generally get along. There are few issues, and Netanyahu’s government does what it can to stop them. For example, he personally denounced the fringe extremist Orthodox outliers who are spitting on Christians. If Palestinian Jews wanted to push out Palestinian Christians they had both the time and the means. As they didn’t, it means they didn’t want to.
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What region of Palestine is being cleared of Christians? It is Muslim occupied Judea & Samaria.
The iron rule of Abbas is rooted in conquest. That is what the name of his Fatah party means. His government routinely abuses Christians, such as prohibiting Christmas activities in both 2023 and 2024. This had a catastrophic impact on Palestinian Christian incomes as it sharply reduced Christian tourism. Abbas’s regime, unlike Netanyahu’s, does nothing when Christians are abused by Muslims.
Imagine how much better off Bethlehem would be if it was protected on the Israeli side of the dividing line. Alas, it is not. Those wanting to escape Muslim oppression leave if they can. The threat poised by Islamist violence is very real.
Anyone supporting the Muslim occupation of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza is an imbecilic pasty or a willful accomplice in the destruction of the MENA Christian heritage.
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Peak Heinlein is his juveniles, IMO.
Impressive totals. Don’t believe I ever knew an American family above five children. In many cases just two.
Zionists know what they are doing is right. The indigenous religion of Judaism has spent over a thousand years reclaiming their religious homeland. They will not be dislodged again.
There is no rational way to argue morally that 1,400+ years of Muslim occupation is right. There are only two surviving native Palestinian religions, Judaism and Christianity. The non-Palestinian religion of Islam behaves immorally by squatting on Christian and Jewish land.
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The Muslim occupation of Gaza has gone particularly badly.
The October 7 genocide attack led to a justified hostage rescue SMO. Damage is extensive and no reconstruction can begin until all of the kidnap victims are recovered and Hamas is permanently defanged. Tents are the new normal as Muslim camp guards refuse to let Gazans travel to refugee sites elsewhere that could provide better accommodations and safety.
Hamas, in the name of Muhammad, unilaterally wrecked the Gaza aquifer. They stole pipe and other material from the water system, making rockets to immorally target civilian Palestinian Jews. For several years now I have asked for a reasonable & practical plan to support Gaza’s fresh water needs. No credible answer was ever given. This site has a great deal of hate for Jews, and very little genuine compassion for the Muslim civilians trapped in their Gaza colony.
Physical reality will inevitably arrive. The water supply was struggling with ~2 Million Muslim colonists in Gaza. Nonpartisan demographers project ~4 Million by 2050. The only option appears to be moving the people to Muslim locations with fresh water. The greater community of Muslim nations will eventually have to accept mass emigration out of Gaza to authentic Muslim lands.
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The UK needs to start a serious remigration program ASAP (1)
They ideal number of Muslim migrants in Judeo-Christian lands is ZERO.
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(1) https://instapundit.com/716712/
Muslims in Palestine don’t want to exterminate the Christians now. They just treat them as second class citizens and, because the Christians now have the ability to move to prosperous Western countries where they live well and don’t have to be treated poorly by Muslims – they leave.
I disagree. They flee, because now they have the means to do so. If they could leave and live prosperous lives without religious discrimination at the hands of the Muslims in the previous centuries, they would have done so. A small number started leaving for the USA in the early 20th century when Palestine was still under Ottoman rule.
Jews and Muslims are Abrahamics (and have more in common with one another than either has with Christians), but Christians are much more than that.
The place is holy because that is where God was incarnated and preached. Seems rational.
I knew an Irish-American guy in the Midwest who was one of 12 children. He is in his late 50s though and was one of the younger kids.
I never saw the “House of Long Shadows”. Did you enjoy this film, tell me a little bit more?
BTW, I did a little bit more research on the “Chan in Panama” spy yarn that we discussed here the other day. It appears that true Chan aficionados consider this film to be one of his very best (I liked it too). 🙂
Too young to be a part of the McGuire brood. Must be something magical within those Lucky Charms, though..marshmallows?
The term Abrahamic is not particularly useful. Judeo-Christians refer to one person as Abraham. Muslims use the same name, it refers to a different person. Similarly, Isa is not Jesus. Overlaps in form and practice are incidental. For example, the same region and environment lead to similar rules about food.
The Pentateuch (first 5 books of the Old Testament) and the Torah are effectively the same work referring to the same God. As more was revealed to Christians via the life of Jesus, there are now differences. However, the core linkage of Jews and Christians via the Old Testament is irrefutable.
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As I remember Putin did not confirm or deny, he simply referred to the strategic alliance between the two countries. There was video of Asiatic-looking soldiers but lots of people pointed out that it can be difficult to distinguish a Korean from a Tuvan.
You undeterred effort at avoiding unwanted realities is truly amazing. You are really one of the most reality averse posters and clearly prefer delusion over what is in front of you.
Russian State TV already admitted months ago that they are using North Koreans in combat.
Putin in fact acknowledged their use in a speech and in fact thanked North Korean troops for helping them in Kursk. If you had read outside of a few pro-Russian sources then you would know that.
Turns out that Ukraine wasn’t lying about killing North Koreans nor was there a conspiracy where they fabricated North Korean materials. Wow it’s almost as if the most likely answer was true the entire time which is that Russian brought in North Korean troops. I pointed out that Putin would have mocked such an accusation if it were false. However you and few other posters were outraged that I merely made the assumption that the report was correct. For an open forum it is truly amazing as to how many posters are clearly agitated by a lack of conformity.
It will also turn out that Ukraine wasn’t lying about using F-16s in Russian territory.
As correctly predicted by Bashi and me, you are now backtracking and denying that you had finally agreed to the point I’ve been making for years. But that really puts you in a pickle because now you have much more difficult things to explain:
1) How does the conclusion you have just admitted agreeing with differ from my own position?
the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area, resulting in eight civilian deaths, raises serious concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions. If Ukrainian forces failed to verify the absence of civilians or chose indiscriminate means knowing the risks, the attack could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack
2) How on earth is this carefully worded question of mine “misleading”??
does what we know about the lugansk air attack against the regional administration building that killed 8 people have the elements of a war crime?
3) If you still claim that you agree with the conclusion in 1) but for some mysterious reason think that it is consistent with the position you have held for years that it was NOT a war crime, what presice evidence do you have that the attack did not violate the Geneva Convention by being ‘indiscriminate or disproportionate’ (sic)? Of course I am not talking about fantasy elucubrations of unknown people in Kiev making such or such calculations. I’m talking about factual evidence that we could all assess right now after Grok has already accepted your uncorroborated premise that the attack was directed at Bolotov but pointed out those war crime elements nonetheless.
It’s going to be painful watching you address these questions (or try to evade them) but let’s be strong.
The term Abrahamic is not particularly useful. Judeo-Christians refer to one person as Abraham. Muslims use the same name, it refers to a different person.
Can you cite a Rabbi that uses the term Judeo-Christian?
I’ve seen many Rabbis in interviews and yet not once have I seen them use it.
I have also never seen a Rabbi talk about the importance of Christian rights in Israel.
We have plenty of Evangelicals like Huckabee that speak for the protection of Israel but I can’t recall a Jewish leader who spoke for the rights of his fellow Judeo-Christians. It’s a Holy Land for both groups, right?
Is this a pattern I’m incorrectly perceiving? Seems like the Judeo-Christian support is mostly one direction.
Finding this one took about 15 seconds (1)
You can easily search for more.
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(1) https://rabbidaniellapin.com/pages/american-alliance-of-jews/
I think you have just won a Nobel prize in comparative religion studies. What you have written above is a major discovery that you absolutely need to publicize because Imams, Rabbis and Priests are absolutely unaware of what you present as self evident. You need to enlighten them. Godspeed and God bless!
In my experience Grok is much better than ChatGPT or any other for this type of discussions but you are right that one has to be careful. I guess part of the problem is that LLMs are not designed to say “I don’t know”. They always try to give you the best possible answer, even if the available information is objectively inconclusive.
However, they are getting better and they are already extremely useful for the ordinary person. I have literally made money with Grok. I have also gotten very valuable information on financial, medical and legal matters (including very precise legal advice from specific Latin American countries), among many others. It also allows me to shop all types of products much more efficiently than I used to and gives me all kinds of practical advice: how to adjust the derailleurs on my mountain bike, how to fix things in my old F150 truck or Kubota tractor, how to properly install driveway pavers, what is that mountain peak that I’m seeing in the distance,… the list is endless.
FWIW, I think ChatGPT is slightly better at generating code though. My programming skills are very basic but thanks to AI, I’ve been busy with a project of categorizing and extracting information from a huge list of documents I have. I’m using perl scripts generated from plain-language by Grok and ChatGPT. They both usually need to be tested and re-written but ChatGPT has been more efficient for me. Gemini and DeepSeek are good but far behind these two in my experience.
Well, that means that you didn’t lose track of the debate at all and retained the exact point I’ve been making. All the rest is hand waving and pointless commentary.
Thank you for admitting I am correct, even prize worthy.
However, I have no interest in the tedium of academia.
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Larger families were less uncommon when Hack was growing up. I guess the number of kids per household started really dropping off after WW2, but many of the Anglo Catholics didn’t get the memo until the seventies. Someone neglected to point out that 2 kids per family is below replacement level.
It might be interesting (aka horrifying) to see what percentage of US families with college-educated couples now have more than 3 kids.
According to Hebrew articles, the vast majority of Arab Christian population are secular (the resource is Hebrew https://info2011.szold.org.il/PDF-Articles/megamot/111717.pdf ), including from the Maronite founder of the Aramaic nationality (in a Hebrew resource https://mara.org.il/15129) . The replacement ideology was the Soviet version of Marxism.*
Some of the Christian clergy like Gabriel Naddaf are influential in the Christian society, but it seems more like a village elders’ authority, than religious authority.
There is also an Arab Evangelical community in Israel, but those are more often converted Muslims.
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I was just in some Jesus sites last week. I was in Tabgha, Magdala and Capernaum. I don’t think I saw any Arabian pilgrims there, even though villages in the area are very Arabian.
Even the priests in these famous churches in Israel, are Europeans.
But if you go to the shopping mall, McDonald’s, Western things, in Israel, then you see thousands of Arabs there.
Chaldeans are today calling themselves Assyrian nationality from Iraq. They are the followers of the Nestorian religion. It’s possible they were living like peasant in the mountains, as they are an unusual minority.
But in the historical Palestine part of the Ottoman empire, the Christians have an Arab identity, which was constructed a lot as a secular version of actually Islamic culture, if we follow the text of Bruce Master.
They developed as an urban merchant class and had a privileged connection with European traders.
In the Palestine region of the Ottoman empire, the merchant elite of the Arab Christians were in Haifa or Yafo.
In the 20th century, the same class connected a lot with the Soviet Union. So, in Haifa, the immigrants are surprised the Arab Christians often speak Russian.
It’s customs of the third world origin people, not exactly organized religion.
If you look at secular Arab Jewish singers in Israel from third world countries like Iran, Algeria, Morocco or Iraq, they are often wearing amulets to protect themselves from evil eye.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DA-15n5MnMS/
It’s a sign their origin society didn’t develop to modern understandings of causes, although the popularity of astrology indicates this is not so distant even in the “enlightened West”.
It’s very the dominant 20th century ideology. In Israel, the Arab Christians are often Russian speaking, because so many educated in the Soviet Union.
In Google maps, you can see now, ballet schools in the Arab villages, because there are so many Russian and Ukrainian wives who married, when they were in medical school in the Soviet times Moscow/Kiev etc.
It’s not specifically Christian, as the many of the secular Muslims are also educated in the Soviet Union.* But the Christians are many times overrepresented.
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* There are still thousands of Russian women living in Gaza until 2023, which is a sign that marrying foreigners isn’t just related to better standards of living.
“Is your AI lying to you?”
Up to now the “making up stuff” is possibly sort of innocent in the sense the LLM programmers may have prioritized giving marginal answers over no answer.
How many people will notice when their answers come from AI programs which are designed to make stuff up for malicious reasons? I assume this is already happening.
I guess this puts pressure on evil doers to monopolize AI so they don’t have the pesky problem of one AI system checking another.
If they make an AI for fact checking and name it Snopes will that be bad or good?
Keep your brain on a swivel.
Nice try.
Which one was that?
You asked: “Do you disagree with the answer Grok gave you?”
I agreed with the answer that Grok gave me.
The concision that you pasted was not the answer that Grok gave me. It was the answer that Grok gave you after you added misleading input.
You claimed it was certainly a war crime.
Grok stated it has elements of a war crime and could potentially be one.
Any action that results in civilian deaths has elements of a war crime and could potentially be one.
That does not mean that it is one.
Here is the part of Grok’s answer to me that you conveniently chose to ignore:
However, without definitive evidence of intent to target civilians or a comprehensive investigation into Ukraine’s decision-making (e.g., intelligence, weapon choice, anticipated harm), it’s not possible to conclusively label it a war crime
You failed to note that Bolotov claimed to be in the building at the time of the attack.
But even then, the overall conclusion was:
“However, definitive classification as a war crime requires further investigation into intent, the building’s military use, and Ukrainian forces’ decision-making. The attack’s civilian toll and execution method provide a strong basis for scrutiny, but legal accountability remains unaddressed due to the conflict’s politicization and limited independent probes”
It was not a war crime because the presence of the military leader and his team in the building at the time of the attack makes the attack proportional – there was no disproportionate harm to civilians compared to the potential military advantage gained (wiping out the rebel leadership early in the rebellion) – and because there is no definitive evidence (as Grok stated to me, but you deliberately omitted) that the civilians were deliberately targeted.
However it certainly has elements of a war crime, due to the deaths of civilians.
Hope that clears things up for you.
Well, I liked it, but wouldn’t overhype it. It is mainly notable for the cast. I believe the only film in which Price, Lee, Cushing, and Carradine all appear. Also has Desi Arnez (Lucy’s son) in it. And for a horror movie, it is pretty inoffensive. (Rated PG.)
I mainly mention it because it is the only adaption of the story that I have seen. There were older movies, though.
I did watch it the other night. I liked the scene with the model of the canal. Only other old movie with a miniature I remember is The Kennel Murder Case (1933), which I think is well-regarded in the genre.
Believe it was meant to be propaganda to get the US involved in the war. We don’t have German_reader to defer to here, but I am thinking the German invasion of Czechia wasn’t as brutal as it is made out to be in the film, where both of the woman’s parents were said to have been executed, IIRC.
They don’t like to visit Israel.
Are you suggesting that Palestinian Christians from the USA visit Israel but go to McDonlads and shopping malls while avoiding holy sites?
In the USA they call sometimes call themselves Assyrians but also call themselves Chaldeans.
Chaldean chamber of commerce:
https://www.chaldeanchamber.com/
Chaldean American Association For Health Professionals:
https://caahp-usa.org/
(the web page features a priest, of course)
Chaldean engineers and technology:
https://ceta.us/
(web page features a deacon talking about the scientific perspective of the Shroud of Turin)

In the USA they tend to be wealthy upper middle class professionals, or successful business owners, (unless they have recently arrived) and to display their wealth via conspicuous consumption (excessive makeup and lip fillers, flashy designer clothes and flashy cars – there are Prada and Balenciaga stores in Michigan for them), in Iraq they tended to be educated professionals such as physicians.
Despite their expensive clothes and short skirts, they lead traditionally virtuous lives.
Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba is a Chaldean-American. Her father was a physician.
Chaldean family at church:


This Chaldean girl is a police officer:
It’s nice in Israel, a lot probably because of the British influence. Same like Singapore, Hong Kong, Bermuda, Australia etc.
Most of the places in third world which becomes successful, were part of the British colonialism.
It’s not because British colonialism was benevolent. It’s more like they just have a stable “operating system” which allows the society to develop without too many extreme crashes.
One of the main differences between the Irish and English culture, is the Irish culture is constructed a lot based in attachment or mythology about suffering, which is sometimes glamorization of not very widespread suffering.
The conflict in Northern Ireland was quite small, with less deaths than a smaller earthquake in Japan.* But in Ireland there is still obsession about the suffering related to this very small conflict.
While in England, they seem to have more of the aristocratic or chivalric culture which is actually less Christian, when the pain and suffering is not viewed as something which can be shown.
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*Japan is an example of a more Buddhist attitude of non-attachment to suffering, which was also part of the Greek philosophy tradition.
As we discussed last thread, the originator of Buddhism, a teacher Siddhartha Gautama, was promoting the view of the “middle way”.
According to the oldest reports of Gautama’s teaching, the attachment to pain and pleasure, are two sides of the same thing. This is also the teaching of some of the Greek philosophy school.
But the teaching of Jesus is quite different from Buddhism (also in many other ways), and it developed in the religion which developed with more emphasis the centuries after his death the view of suffering as noble.
In Ireland, this Catholic tradition of suffering, has been influencing the Irish nationalist movement. This is part of the influence on the nationalist culture in Ireland, although it also has more modern influences, including from Leninism.
It’s often focused on Jain style of suffering.
In modern religion like Islam, there is a similar tradition in the Shia branch.
Define Russian territory, Donbas or Kursk. Define aircraft, exclude drones.
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I don’t care about North Korea, it’s background noise similar to Chechens and Siberians in the SMO, and F-16s for that matter. You will jump up and down at any chance you get. North Korean weaponry is old news. You focus on details and you never see pattern.
Enjoy getting triggered.
https://southfront.press/north-korean-heavy-artillery-enters-battle-first-footage-of-m1991-mlrs-emerges-report/
https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/MLRS.mp4?_=1
I’m talking about the Arab Christians in Israel.
Sorry if my comment mixed too many topics in the unclear way, so it looks like I’m saying Iraqi Chaldeans visit shopping malls in Israel.
If you visit the “Palestinian Christian and Muslim” areas in Israel. Anywhere in this region of Israel, like the shopping mall or cinema, is full of Arabs.
But the church and places where Jesus was teaching, you don’t see many Arabs. Including the clergy in these churches are Europeans.
To understand the context, these Jesus sites are mostly in the Arab region of Israel. The most important places for Gospel history are in Northern Israel, where most of the Arabs live. If you go to the nearby secular sites, there are a lot of Arabs there.
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When you say “Arab Christian”, it’s like when you say “Israeli Jew”. It doesn’t mean they are followers of Christianity or Judaism.
Even the most atheist Israeli Jew, still goes to the Synagogue for some customs or follows some religious festivals. But they are not interested in religion.
One of the cultural features of the Arab Christians in Israel is being secular. Arab Christians are designated by a religion, but they are mostly secular people, like for example “Soviet Jews”. It’s complicated also as the Arab Christian are in the 20th century educated vanguard population of communism and secular ideologies.
Secular Christians would go to church for wedding or funeral. Maybe for Easter or Christmas. But they are not similar to real American Christians who go to Church every Sunday, because they believe the religion.
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When I try to look for videos of famous churches in Haifa where the Arab Christians live, they are Filipino parishioners.
It’s like the most famous Arab Christian church in Haifa, with mainly Filipino people actually go to the parishioners, as Filipino people are an example of a highly religious Christian nationality.
But if you look at the shopping malls in Haifa, thousands of Arab Christians will be there.
Is that one mother?
One of my great grandmothers did substantially better than that, but that was in the old country and a long time ago now.
Is this war the first time that Slavs have used others as soldiers against Slavs. Whites where I live tended to need alliances with some blacks.
Some of my older friends had to fight during the Cold War days, so I find echoes in the song of things they said when drinking.
There was a bit of counterculture in Afrikaans just after old SA censorship laws relaxed, but that was when Apartheid was unwinding and white conscription became more unpopular. I missed getting conscripted by a year, but by then things had looked reasonably stable in SA for quite some time.
I think North Koreans would be able to get the sentiment but it would be easier for them to pack it away again.
I think it’s a specific and unusual nationality, it’s not necessarily going so related or identifying with the Arab nation. In the Bruce Masters book on the history of the Arab Christian and Jews, there is only one reference to this group, as a name for a faction of Nestorians.
According to Wikipedia, they live mainly in villages in Northern Iraq, which is actually Kurdistan in terms of demographics.
Their home villages are in Erbil, which is now controlled by Kurdish military. So, they are even under Kurdish autonomy now, not even having an Arab military or Arab local government in their home region now.
More like the Arab Christian origin, is the wife of Mike Walz, who has a family that has Jordanian origin according to Wikipedia. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/julia-nesheiwat/
Some ethereal vocals from a September, 1968 US television broadcast. The band leader is Sergio Mendes and the band is Brasil ’66. [As it’s name suggests, the band is Brazilian, and the two singers, Lani Hall and Karen Philipp, American.]
I wonder how important where the Norkies in Kursk, the pictures have a lot of enthusiastic soldiers but wars are not about excitement. Russia claims Kiev lost 70k soldiers (killed and wounded) in Kursk, I tend to believe it – it has been quite a bloodbath. For nothing.
There was an exchanges last week of 950 Ukie bodies for 45 Russian – catastrophic ratio of 20 to 1. Russia has 6 times more Ukie POWs than Kiev. As we come to the war end (I hope) the actual casualties will become better known. Ukraine has been decimated.
When a nation has catastrophic losses it better be about something existential. I can imagine Afrikaans doing it in the past to carve out a piece of land in S Africa. They wisely chose not to. But Ukies? The war for them is about trivia – a crazy desire by their elite to join NATO and even crazier desire by the Ukie nationalists to eliminate Russian minority. Both stupid and unreachable goals. They will claim it was about “identity”, “West”, and other slogans of no importance. Nobody will ever figure out why 100’s of thousand had to die for it. Somebody wanted the bloodbath and they never cared for the Ukie lives – listen to the senator Graham, he lets it out…
According to the surveys the most unpopular countries are China, Russia and USA. But those are just the three largest militaries today.
I don’t think reputation is very easy to understand or measure and soft power is often created at the same time as hatred in the example like the USA.
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If you imagine popular hatred was fatal, then just the hatred of Poles and Czechs, would have killed every Russian and Moscow would be falling.
At least since the 1950s, Israel doesn’t have soft power and international reputation.
The economy is always based on hiding the “made in Israel” labels on their products, not promoting it.
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Israel is vulnerable in terms of the voting in the UN. But even the Arab countries seem to be more supporting them in terms of Gaza than we saw in the previous years.
If you compare the Arab boycott of Israel in the 1970s, which included boycotting any Western companies which are related to Israel and boycotts of even Western actors, stopping the supply of oil to the West.
Unlike the 1970s, today, many Muslim countries are not even indirectly boycotting Israel, they are directly supplying Israel.
The land trade now goes from the Arab countries to Israel directly as trucks across the Arab countries.
https://www.voanews.com/a/red-sea-attacks-foster-arab-israeli-trade-link-by-land/7487827.html
Turkey supplies Israel with oil.
Egypt is refining gas from Israel.
Morocco is buying Israeli artillery. https://allisrael.com/morocco-strengthens-military-ties-with-israel-purchases-atmos-2000-artillery-systems
I’m not sure there is any change with the regional relations since October 7.
Saudi Arabia is still preparing to normalize relations, but possibly the timing has been delayed by 5-10 years.
Some of the Afrikaners chose, we had to fight the British to keep two republics and lost. We were going to be overrun by white immigrants who would eventually demand voting rights anyway because of the gold rush, so we had to give it a shot because last chance. Lots of Boers who lived in British territory did not fight and A few even fought for Britain.
We got another shot at it as England’s right hand in Africa, and then another with an empire that was too large to manage with so few whites, under Apartheid. The thing is that peace around here is pretty dangerous anyway.
I would agree that it looks better for Russia but I see at the same time it’s awful for anyone involved. Zelensky seems to be getting threats from Ukrainian hawks to not give anything away in negotiations. What I learned from Anglo-Boer war is that the side who has it worse can keep going on anger for a long time.
I also hear stories of Putin offering another ceasefire for three day for Victory Day I think. Both sides could benefit, but it seems like some kind of demonstration.
NK weapons, old video:
I think Russia is trying out big fat artillery and big fat rockets. Simple stuff that can be upgraded maybe.
Could it be argued it’s not nice in the British Mandate for Palestine, a lot probably because of the British influence. Same like British Malaya, British Jamaica, British Honduras, British Guiana, British Rhodesia, Fiji etc.
Perhaps there is another factor, that preordained nations and peoples to succeed, besides the British operating system.
I guess this a riddle wrapped in an enigma, that requires much thought.
It could be something as simple as the British cuisine, that nourished their brains and raised these third world people’s IQs on an epigenetic level, who knows? 🤔
Regarding Israel you are missing what’s going on. You remain an optimist but what is going there – and has been for decades – won’t stand. It’s unsustainable in the long run. But there is no point in trying to convince you, your identity is clearly tied to the settlement project. You haven’t thought it through.
Surveys of emotions are skin-deep at all times, but during a war they are almost completely useless. But if you want to play the game the latest survey in Poland has 1/3 of people saying they would leave immediately if there is a war with Russia – less than 10% said they would personally fight (by the way, that could be enough).
Anyone surveying Czechs simply doesn’t understand their culture. They are not serious about anything. Here is a sequence:
– 1942 after Heydrich assassination half a million Czechs filled the main square in Prague yelling Nazi slogans, hailing, swearing eternal loyalty to the fuhrer (there are movies of it)
– 1945 after Russian liberated Prague half a million Czechs were lining the streets, throwing flowers at Red Army, girls kissing the soldiers. (There are movies.)
Maybe they were not the same half a million Czechs? Or maybe Czechs don’t take these things too seriously. What do you want to hear? This will accommodate you.
Numbers matter. There was the option of taking less and focusing on a few defensible areas – but it would had been very destabilizing, farmers moving, losing wealth, etc…Possibly some part of the Cape province. The black bantustan solution was not going to work. It’s too bad, it was a unique and interesting civilization (the Boers). What is puzzling is the lack of clear long-term thinking by the Afrikaans between 1945-90…you settle a deal when you have the power not when you are losing it. Ukies could learn from that…
The UN has no power.
It is now possible to sue UNRWA is U.S. courts for their support of terrorist activity.
I agree.
Hamas has managed to be double outcast from the larger Islamic community. They operated as an offshoot of the Muslim Terrorist Brotherhood which antagonized Arab Sunnis. Then they linked up with Shia Iran making it even worse. Arab Muslims are glad that Hamas is failing spectacularly if if they cannot publicly celebrate their demise.
It is not human nature to want to be on the losing side. Perhaps there was a limited window to displace Palestinian Jews or force a 2 state solution that would permanently diminish Judaism. Arab nations realize those opportunities are long gone. Palestinian Jews are too entrenched in their religious homeland to displace. There is no upside to losing for more decades.
The Muslim occupation of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza is inevitably going to fail. It is only a matter of time.
PEACE 😇
A rule for all time.
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Dima is just a britanophile. He probably likes being dressed up like a cockney and eat the (weird tasting) white pudding. Britain for him is still something akin to what we see in this classic Madness video:
While in fact, England looks more and more like:
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Another Nobel prize coming your way, this time in Islamic cultural studies in the context of political science!
You need to publish ASAP this finding of yours, because the Ikhwan still think they are Ahl Al Sunnah wal Jamaah (try googling it)…
Thank you for admitting I am correct, even prize worthy.
However, I have no interest in the tedium of academia.
PEACE 😇
We are still around, most will stay, since we have spent most of our time having to deal with or get along with hostile cultures. Our ancestors faced worse many times. We will probably always be a small nation.
We would not have been allowed a smaller home, but that can still change, we need to be smart about it. The old SA was a Western proxy, we were made redundant by the end of the Cold War. Sure there were sanctions but the Same Western government that condemned us in public were passing along tech and other support through third parties, or turned a blind eye to black market weapons deals.
To get an idea of how big the old SA was, include Namibia.
Whites here and specifically Afrikaners/Boers are very individualistic too, a microcosm of the West.
Take the Breytenbach brothers for instance. Breyten Breytenbach was a poet and writer, was antiwar , moved to Paris and married a Vietnamese woman and became a Buddhist and anti-Apartheid activist.
https://w.wiki/CDcy
His brother Jan Breytenbach was an army officer an helped to build up army special forces.
https://w.wiki/DwP7
The crimes of the British imperialism against the Irish people are too numerous to count and too lengthy to describe in a single comment. Just for the starters:
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/englands-irish-slaves-10927
Everything Britain did to other conquered lands, it first experimented with in Ireland:
https://daily.jstor.org/britains-blueprint-for-colonialism-made-in-ireland/
The Troubles are but an aftershock of this centuries long tradition of violence by the British against the Irish.
A slow and meticulous process using a lot of firepower, and a list of Russian demands:
Wouldn’t want to be on the Lisbon subway, when the power went out.
Probably be a combination of Asimov’s Nightfall, Metro 2033, and Haiti in 1791.
That’s fine.
Academia has no interest in the tedium of A123.
QCIC support for tedious academics like Anthony Fauci, Ralph Baric, and Peter Daszak is officially noted for the record. If you insist on obeying their dictates…. It is your funeral… Possibly literally.
How many experimental mRNA jabs did you take as Sheeple to your academic overlords?
PEACE 😇
https://www.engadget.com/ai/researchers-secretly-experimented-on-reddit-users-with-ai-generated-comments-194328026.html
How AASI is Thanedar?
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1916929187191132553
Finding this one took about 15 seconds (1)
American Alliance of Jews and Christians – Rabbi Daniel Lapin
A Rabbi that sells books to Christian conservatives.
I don’t mean a Ben Shapiro type who makes a living selling moychendise to people like yourself.
I mean a Rabbi as in a Jew who serves the Jews full time.
I did not get any mRNA shots. I think those people you listed are evil incarnate.
I am still barely hanging on to my old theory that Jung-Freud and Raches [RIP?] are two of Ron’s AI sock puppets.
As you might know from being right there small countries tend to use appeasement as a survival skill. Beaten wives and children do this. The literature on family violence is intermittently fascinating. I have a friend who told me his grandmother attempted to kill him on three separate occasions. She was a beloved matriarch and there was a big emotion meltdown at her funeral with dozens of family members aghast at the great loss. He never did figure out what the fuck was going on.
Ron Unz has a few goofy ideas but it is unlikely he has much time for any goofy behavior. Also we know he has zero patience for sock puppets as a class.
Let it go. : )
If you believe tedious academics are evil incarnate, why did you join Bashi by endorsing them?
Would you like to change sides?
You and I could stand together against Bashi’s incarnate evil and worship of tedious academia.
PEACE 😇
Those researchers might find themselves in deep doo doo. If unauthorized is equal to scoffing at the University of Zurich’s research ethics review committees they ain’t gonna be laughing about this.
RUSSIAN E-SCOOTER ASSAULT INCOMING
It developed very fast in the 1920s and 1930s, after the British empire replaced the Ottoman empire.
Tel Aviv is an example of the British designed city, by Patrick Geddes and Frank Mears. In photos a lot of the famous streets look more organized in the 1920s and 1930s under the British managers, than today.
It was nice to the extent hundreds of thousands of British people were selecting immigration to Rhodesia between 1945-1965. It was also preferred by the native population compared to the later state.
Is there any country in Africa today which hundreds of thousands of British people would select emigration to?
Although obviously there were problems and Ian Smith has rebelled in 1965.
Some parts of the British empire become successful with first world immigrants (like Australia, USA, New Zealand), while other parts of the British empire become successful with third world immigrants (like Israel, Singapore, Hong Kong, Bermuda).
I know the counter-examples which need to be studied like India, Canada, Pakistan, Malaysia etc.
Someone who is smarter than a midwit would consider the fact that because Russia gained ground it would have more of the enemy’s bodies, and this explains the discrepancy.
Or do you think that Ukrainians would conduct forays into Russian-held territory in order to harvest corpses to trade?
Just found out that 2 of my nephews in Ukraine, in their early 20s and not subject to mobilisation, recently volunteered.
Canada is noticeably poorer than the USA, but I wouldn’t place it in the same category of failure as Pakistan or Malaysia.
It’s low crime and is about as rich (or poor) as an above average Euro country. Its GDP per capita is slightly higher than the UK’s.
In theory, I could see someone faking Raches. But Jung-Freud just seems like too different a brain – I mean, like probably not even possible with drugs. Silvio said there was speculation he was a tranny.
I am half way disillusioned with Trump handling the Ukraine peace agreement. I assume you might have some different inside information. How can he demand Russians to sign some peace agreement or ceasefire when the US actually started and are running this conflict since the 2014 and he was actually in charge of it in 2016-2020. Russians are not easy to fool, in fact they have superior intel…who warned ignorant Washington on 9/11 or Boston marathon hits?
How genuine is his “grief” in repeating 5000 Christians dying every week for nothing, when he can stop it by discontinue direct militarily support of Ukraine or stop the present effort to transfer the support to depleted EU and continue shipments to them. Since the Korean war, making money from wars became the US vital economic activity. Like Sakashvili was in Georgia, Zelensky is next American puppet in Ukraine. His nonexistent importance in decision making is solely created for hiding the real backroom players of the conflict.
The USA became successful only after they kicked out the British empire. Israel was created by European immigrants and not by third world immigrants. Including an affluent country like Canada in the same group with India or Pakistan is laughable.
There is only structural difference between Canadian and US GDP. The US GDP structure is exemplified by (90+10)/2 = 50 and Canadian by (60+40)/2 = 50. The 65% of Americans are living from month to month pay – a reality pointed out by concerned congressmen.
I was just trying to be funny* maybe failing. I’ve noticed Canada is more successful than the USA in some of the indicators of development like life expectancy.
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*There is a lot of vibe on the political internet about Canada going to a third world direction, after the unpopular decade of Justin Trudeau. I guess it will test in the election how unhappy Canadians feel about this, their liberal candidate is managing the same government Canada has since 2015.
That would be cool if he was not dreaming, we were somekind of part of the British empire.
I’m not sure what we would be suffering, having too much parliamentary democracy? Too many boarding schools with children knowing the classic texts of Ancient Greece and Rome? Too many golf courses?
I don’t know about white pudding, but you don’t think English Breakfast feels like a certificate of civilization?
One of the problems of the historical Great Britain, was having the depressing weather and not interesting nature. They can solve part of this problem, although not saying it was their main priority, by converting regions of the world with different climate and nature to becom Great Britain.
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Of course, it’s one of the negative parts of imperialism to involve too much in the peoples’ original culture, which should be preserved.
Trying to make Maori people to suddenly become English people, is too far of the historical divide, like accelerating ancient people two thousand years to the future of post-Enlightenment Europe which is not always happy.
World leaders taking selfies with pope’s coffin.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14650363/World-leaders-photos-Pope-Francis-coffin-phones.html
A negro has appeared on the polymarket leader board.
Pietro Parolin 27%
Luis Antonio Tagle 19.9%
Peter Turkson 16.5%
Matteo Zuppi 13.2%
https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-be-the-next-pope
Turkson is from Ghana. The negro honcho who hates homosexuals is the Nigerian bishop. Turkson is OK with the gays I guess.
https://www.newwaysministry.org/2024/12/11/ghanaian-cardinal-offers-qualified-condemnation-of-new-anti-gay-law/
I thought you were referring to academics as a broader category. Apologies if I missed something in the tedious ranting.
I think Bashibuzuk is fine and will do no such thing. Get a clue.
Alas, it’s not a popular theory. Ron is smiling in his high castle.
Of course not.
The epitome of civilized breakfast is a hot fresh sourdough baguette with unsalted butter, strawberry jam made with golden cane sugar and a well made allongé espresso coffee with natural cream. You know, the old cliche about «и хруст французской булки». The espresso can be replaced with tea, in this case the Earl Gray tea with lemon would do. The English were quite good at tea drinking, and I must admit that their scones are quite tasty. But their cuisine is bland overall, even though their roast beef and their fish and chips are rather good with a pint of English ale.
BTW, the traditional Russian was quite complex :
You are probably right, but I still don’t understand why. SA is a huge country.
Individualistic societies get taken apart over time. Maybe that’s why this thing we call freedom has not been evolutionary very common and successful. The West is currently being overrun by more clannish societies – it suggests the best way individualistic societies that prioritize freedom can survive is by isolating. That goes against what we generally understand as freedom.
It’s a big world with almost infinite stories so these analogies are shaky. It could be that smaller countries have smarter people. Anyone today itching for an all-out war is an idiot. It doesn’t matter if it’s with Russia, China or Bolivia. Not wanting to do something really stupid is not ‘appeasing’, why would it be? These faulty over-simplified “analogies” are blocking common sense.
Islam at least in the pure form (which people like Salafists return to), is preservation of the early medieval culture in Saudi Arabia, which is influenced by the Christianity and Judaism, and some other religions which were already popular in the culture of Mohammad.
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Judaism and Christianity are both different branches of the Second Temple Judaism until the end of the first century, beginning of the second century, after the temple was destroyed by Romans the separation of the two religions is really beginning, while before it’s just different origin branches of the religion (there is a lot of discussion of scholars about which branch Jesus was part of).
First century, provincial Roman empire, is a different historical epoch and region than Islam, which preserves medieval Saudi Arabia. Modern Judaism/Christianity are deriving from the Roman Empire, in the Eastern Mediterranean.
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As Christianity diverges progressively from Judaism in 2nd-4th century, it absorbs more of the wider culture of the Mediterranean.
For example, the Vestal Virgins of Rome, are probably becoming symbolically absorbed to the role of mother of Jesus.
After Constantine converts the Roman empire to Christianity. Then in this century, Christmas is introduced as the replacement for the Roman festival of Saturnalia in the 4th century. It’s example of recoding of the Roman festival, but with a new Christian explanation, which creates the Christmas tradition, which maps easily to the culture of Europe which has been part of the Roman empire..
Christianity becomes syncretic and absorbs a lot of ancient Mediterranean culture like this, Greek and Roman traditions, even ancient schools of philosophy like Neoplatonism continue in some branches Christian theology.
Then later there are even more significant flowering in Christian Europe as the Renaissance and Reformation.
In the Protestant Reformation, especially allows the introduction of more Northern European culture into Christianity.
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As the Reformation allows more absorption of Northern European culture into originally Mediterranean coding of Christianity, is part of the basis of the German wave of philosophers’ creativity, from the Jakob Böhme, Hegel, Kant etc.
You can imagine how French breakfast was indicator of the maximal civilization snobbery in the previous centuries. Maybe only in Kyoto were making breakfast more refined than France.
But today, it feels like the French breakfast was ruined by the mass production and overusing it in “hotel breakfast before business conference” . Even in the plane, they give us “French breakfast”, with a croissant wrapped in plastic and strawberry jam.
The real baguette and croissant in France, is very different and better than the supermarket one which they make in a factory. Even in the supermarket, it’s not always easy to find a real jam.
British food is good in the specialist restaurant. The problem is lower general standards in the normal situation.
While in France, Italy (excluding the tourist trap place), Spain, the quality of the food is usually higher in normal situation. For example, the average sandwich in the train station or cinema.
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It’s funny the supposedly “most authentic”, English Breakfast in London, is made by Italians.
I was trying to be funny in the comment, unsuccessfully, but Canada just voted for Prime Minister Carney who continues the government of Trudeau, so maybe this discussion becomes less funny now.
It feels like the Canadian voter are voluntarily trying to kill their own country.
He’s a clever guy, that Vlad. Everybody knows that he’s playing Trump…..
Where’s the giardiniera?
I was in the Cais do Sodré metro station waiting for the next train when the power went out and it went dark. Was pleased we were a bit late for the previous train.
They let us out but it took us a while to realise the extent of the power cut. We were trying to continue sight seeing, then realised that we should go back to our apartment, that was interesting because there was no metro or trams and only buses running which were massively filled.
The Portuguese were calm and started going to cafés and sitting in the sun. There are a lot of black Africans around, more than I have ever seen irl, but I guess these blacks are from Angola, Bissau, Mozambique etc. so power failure is probably just a normal day.
Tribalism seems to do better in a stable Africa, it works for whites too. An Afrikaner rights organization using old alliances to network:
Is this an example of operating system or hardware upgrade for Malaysia?
China has signed letter of intent with Malaysia’s Pahang State to develop joint international Space Port along its East Coast.
Would be significantly closer to equator, than China’s current launch centre in Hainan and slightly closer than France’s Guiana Space Centre, aka Europe’s Spaceport.
The Malaysian side is to visit Hainan Wenchang Spaceport in May to study infrastructure upgrades. This will provide an additional launch service for China, its estimated this plan will take 3 to 5 yrs to complete.
Malaysia moves up value chain in space industry while China can launch rockets far closer to the equator.
Map of China’s current Spaceports.
Razib Khan just tweeted this. LoL Bashi
https://twitter.com/razibkhan/status/1917027386341920878
Somewhat inspired by Mr. Hack’s interest in Charlie Chan, I watched Think Fast, Mr. Moto (1937). First time I saw a Moto movie, though I have read some of the stories.
In the stories, Moto is a more mysterious character. Often, it takes a while for him to make his appearance. In a way, he is kind of like a background character, with the foreground character often being a young American man in love with some girl he just met.
On the screen, they had to fill the character out a little more. Make him talk more, etc. The result strikes me as a spectacle of strangeness.
He is played by Peter Lorre. Putting aside the SJW angle, he just really seems very not Japanese. In fact, I wonder if he had ever met a Japanese person.
Japanese seem introverted and Jews (such as Lorre) very extroverted. At one point, Lorre grabs the other main’s arm, while talking to him. His character drinks milk (do Japs have that Neanderthal variant? Could Lorre tolerate milk?)
Much of the film takes place in Shanghai. I couldn’t tell whether it was supposed to be Japanese-run, but the police were certainly deferential to Moto.
The films were made by Fox, just like the Chan films. Moto is depicted as a more active character than Chan. He judo-throws people. Shoots or otherwise kills bad guys. This is somewhat true to the novels where he is depicted as a dangerous character, at one point having some villain dragged away to apparently be liquidated.
Now the Chinese can build a casino hotel in orbit and sell space tourism to high rollers from Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Hong Kong. Not as good a business as spaceporn, but maybe a close second. Space hookers and space pimps will probably do OK. What happens in space stays in space.
Beal Aerospace was an earlier attempt at the SpaceX business model (the Falcon part, not the Mars fugue). Beal tried to get a launch facility near Venezuela but ran afoul of the Esequibo troubles.
I remember him recently posting a meme of a dark-skinned Uralic male with light-skinned, Nordic female.
I do not know if “inside” is the correct term, but I can help you understand America specific context.
If Trump had become God Emperor with unilateral authority over everything, being disillusioned would make sense.
However, Trump is a President in a system that has official 3-way (Executive, Legislative, Judicial) checks & balances. In addition he is further limited by deep state administrative interference.
I encourage patience. Abandoning ship prematurely obtains nothing.
No-one is trying to “fool” the Russians. One method to encourage progress is the creation of apparent urgency. This is a tool, nothing more.
Trump’s 1st choice is pushing BOTH Russia and UKRAINE to come to a mutually acceptable deal and sign. The fall back option if Europe/Ukraine block that effort is U.S. disengagement.
Yes. You can go back over a decade and find problems created by Globalist Obama over a decade ago. Nothing is ever 100%. However, MAGA Populism is in direct opposition Globalism. Looking at recent history is helpful:
• Trump’s 1st term yielded little for Ukraine. There was only one package over $100MM. It was rooted in domestic, not foreign, policy. Trump needed it to beat back the now debunked impeachment threat.
• Europe bought the Ukraine graft franchise from Team Biden. They used the U.S. as their proxy by giving The Big Guy his 10%. No one detected any leadership from the prior White House occupant.
• Trump’s 2nd term is pushing towards disengagement. To prevent issues here at home, it has to be done gracefully avoiding an Afghanistan “Cut & Run” withdrawal fiasco. Trump is attempting to serve as a “broker” trying to help Russia and Europe/Ukraine reach terms. if Europe continues to be unreasonable, they will have to come up with the funding and pay for it themselves.
Globalist Zelensky, and previously Globalist Biden, are Globalist European puppets. What could you possibly hope to gain by throwing Populist Trump under the proverbial bus? The best hope for long term peace is a Populist MAGA successor in 2028.
Do you really want another Globalist European puppet in the White House? What would a figure like President AOC do for her European masters?
Let us look at both financial and non-financial concerns.
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Team Biden, at the direction of his European puppet masters, managed to obtain $20B in the waning days of the prior administration. The U.S. system makes it very hard to stop the distribution of appropriated funds to their matching programs. Material will continue to flow until that money is used up. Again, Trump is not an Emperor.
Since the beginning of Trump’s 2nd term there has been no new money. The Continuing Resolution [CR] contained nothing. And, there does not appear to be a major number in either the House or Senate budget proposal. That process is opaque, but if a big surprise was coming it would have leaked by now. As President, Trump is arranging cuts at the maximum speed that the U.S. system accommodates.
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It is important to note that the GOP has very narrow margins in Congress. And, some of those seat holders are not MAGA. For example, old school establishment figure Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate.
Trump has many policy objectives. Ending the dying in Ukraine is only one of them. Acting precipitously would generate open opposition that could wreck everything. Pro-war forces would love to break the budget process just to hurt Trump.
Trump has to play the long-game. This involves managing the situation so that GOP figures prone to sabotage cannot justify such actions. Making a genuine push for a peace deal is essential.
What is the current public opinion in the U.S. among swing and MAGA base voters.
• Russia and Putin are being professional and reasonable
• Europe and their leaders are intransigent
• Zelensky’s White House tantrum was unacceptable
This allows Trump to keep Congress critters on side to pass a budget that reduces funding for Kiev aggression to effectively zero.
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I too wish Trump could move faster on this and many other issues. However, as long as the Constitution stands, things will continue to move slowly.
PEACE 😇
It’s a bit of an oversimplification, but yeah I get his point. Actually makes sense. Especially the Seima-Turbino connection. Probably the proto-Germanic tribes got a resurgence of the Y haplogroup I. They’ve also probably been influenced by the proto-Fennic Siberian shamanic traditions while both of them (as the Aesir) moved south-west. And they all slept with the proto-Balto-Slavic (the Vanir) Natashas along the way getting a somewhat lighter phenotype. And yeah, the Venedi/Veneti ethnic identity of the Nordic Bronze Age elites that survived in the Urnfield and then the Lusatian cultures becomes clearer. Probably R1a derived from CWC Battle Axe Culture.
That’s okay the light skinned Scythians also slept with dark haired and slanted eyed Siberian beauties producing the Pazyrik and other North Asian populations (Tagar, Tashtyk). Ultimately the whole thing culminated in the Hunnish (especially the Hephtalite) and later in the Turkic hordes. They got our females and we got theirs. I think it was a fair deal. Their chicks are hot. 🙂
I agree with you. Bashi’s ranting is indeed tedious.
Bashi claimed unto himself the power to speak for all of academia, which includes figures such as Anthony Fauci, Ralph Baric, and Peter Daszak. I am simply treating his comical self aggrandizement and hubris appropriately.
ROTFL — I solidly defeated Bashi. He is being petty and snarky because his karma cannot “Take the L”. If he keeps going, my responses to his tedious whining will continue to be sarcastic victory laps at his expense.
PEACE 😇
Apparently, in the last ten years, the percentage of births to foreign women in Portugal has doubled to 33%. In 2021, it was 21.5%. Metro Lisbon is 47% foreign births.
https://twitter.com/BirthGauge/status/1917179435767529568
I’ve watched more Moto movies than Chan ones. For all of Moto’s possible detractions, perhaps because of f Lorre’s idiosyncrasies, I still find him to be an interesting character. Lorre has indeed most often been a “spectacle of strangeness” in his film adaptations. This certainly lends to his movie screen persona and charm that the movie going public found to be so attractive.
And then there was Mr. Wong, another Asian criminal detective, played by Boris Karlof:
Have I missed anybody? 🙂
Hi there! What a shame you so rarely comment on here, even less than myself. Instead there is about 50 a day backlog of obsessive BS, nonsensical comments here from freaks like LatW, AP, JJ etc. Hack without the cartoons and Nazism would be fine, Sudden Death is sane unlike the other 3, and probably has functioning life unlike the first 3 and he doesn’t comment excessively…….his disadvantage is that he a total scumbag. So with that and those 3 dickheads leading to 1000 comments very quickly….its unfortunate you arent here to balance the sanity.
BTW – one of your previous posts I forgot to reply to, but was about some khokhol “professor” in North America propogating some nonsense..what was the blog can I ask, as khokhol blogs in english language appear to be rare?
I think the leadership are very particular about what defines as “Special Military Operations”, and several actions are restricted because of it . However if the restrictions apply to targeting western officials, then for ukronazis its simply an issue of, as you say, it being to our advantage to keep these scum alive with their lack of competence. I am sure that we could have forced for a ukronazi “election” to be conducted during any proposed 30 day ceasefire if we desired – but it doesn’t seem to be a topic of discussion in the US negotiations.
Bridges in 404 are left untouched, electric grid and power stations are not destroyed ( harmed of course, started entirely because ukronazi terrorists attacked Crimean Bridge , but not targeted to eliminate the generating capacity so much more than could be possible) , vehicles – disguised as civilian/commercial of course – transiting weapons are not attacked by drones. Thanks mostly to Stalinist era system – railway damage is relatively quick to repair but if railway bridges and viaducts were targeted, or drones were regularly swarming over and attacking trains in motion ……..the rail network could have been severely disrupted if it was an objective
This why the ( small number) of North Koreans were involved in the Anti-Terrorist Operation classified actions in Kursk, but haven’t been in deployed anywhere in SMO-classified zones, even though DPRK recognises all the liberated land as Russian and it wouldnt be a problem.
Ukronazi officials – top political and military are an irrelevance, so there is zero point in wasting money killing them collectively in the politically sphere, or killing military officials individually ( decision-making centres with several officers in one site, being advised by a load of NATO “instructors” is a different issue).
Who knows why unfortunately American/NATO vermin military and political officials aren’t killed when they enter404- reciprocity worry would be my opinion , though it could just be an action restricted by SMO . It creates a dangerous precedent to kill serving politicians. Highly imperfect as the western cowards are using khokhol proxies to do this for them while we can’t retaliate.
However, I would strongly want us to target the always expanding list of top officials resigned/voted out in the west who enter 404 all the time, for being war criminals and never going to be able to place them on trial….but then the issue is the same of them being an irrelevance if not in office. But then they could always come back into power such as (((Sikorski))), Nuland the next time the Democrats win etc.
If Bashibuzuk is lucky, you’ll place him within your imaginary “ignore” column (not that he’s anywhere near to be ignored). 🙂
Why, are the cartoons too difficult for you to understand?
Let me remind you that it was your fearless leader Putler, who first made a big deal of looking for Nazis in Ukraine. He’s spent 3 years looking for any, and still is unable to find a single one.
All politics is local.
There are quite a few. You will not admit to it because you share their views. Simple question: who was right in WW2? Germany and its allies or Russia (SU) and its allies? Don’t overthink it, just tell us. Remember that Banderites were with the Nazis…it’s time to choose, don’t prevaricate…
Much more important point below. Checkout the ratios, they will determine the future:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualized-government-debt-around-the-world/
US has 123% ratio of debt to GNP meaning more than 1-year production is undebted. Debt or leverage means that two parties have access to the same productive activity – it’s not sustainable and Trump knows it.
Ukraine is 110%, Russia 21%…EU ranges from 60 to 137% (Italy), better than US. (But US manages the reserve dollar currency and can get away with more for now).
Numbers tell us what will happen, not your silly pictures. Do some homework…
Just who exactly are these Ukrainian Nazis, if there are so many? Remember, right wing extremist groups can be found in many countries in the world today, including both Ukraine and Russia.
There are several far right groups in Slovakia. Is this the one that you belong to?
Carney is no Trudeau (an unqualified clown with a famous dad and a pretty face) or a Harris (also unqualified, chosen for demographic characteristics but still not as bad as Trump-Maduro-Peron). Carney is a brilliant Harvard and Oxford trained technocrat who has led both the Bank of England and the Bank of Canada. I know someone who works in finance who would have voted Conservative but voted for the Liberals only because he considered Carney to be the one best capable of steering Canada through the current global economic circumstances.
Of course, Carney is also a Liberal with all that entails. But now we can see what an intelligent Liberal leader can do. Canada hasn’t had one in decades. America hasn’t had a really intelligent Democrat since Clinton.
I have seen testimonies of nine separate locations for the Garden of Eden. Every different witness testified to a location inside the country of their own ancestors. It’s almost as good as the Battle of the Nations.
Italy Serbia
Poland Russia
I knew your answer would be painful to read but I didn’t expect it to enter A123-argumentation territory. You’re saying that you agree with the first paragraph below but disagree with the second one LOL:
the use of unguided rockets in a civilian area, resulting in eight civilian deaths, raises serious concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions. If Ukrainian forces failed to verify the absence of civilians or chose indiscriminate means knowing the risks, the attack could constitute a war crime under IHL, specifically as an indiscriminate or disproportionate attack (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)(i) or (iv)).
The Luhansk aattack on June 2, 2014, does have the elements of a war crime. It likely violated the IHL principles of distinction, proportionality, and precaution by targeting or recklessly harming civilians in a densely populated area with non-guided rockets, resulting in eight civilian deaths and significant injuries. The evidence—civilian casualties, the nature of the weaponry, and the lack of active combat—suggests the attack was either deliberate or grossly negligent in its disregard for civilian safety, both of which can constitute war crimes under international law.
Although, taken literally, you can be interpreted to say that you both agree and disagree with the first paragraph…
The rest is pure nonsense. For the umpteenth time, I totally agree with the nuances that the LLM introduces, particularly about the need to conduct a proper investigation (which of course neither the Ukrainians nor the ICC did) and the idea that my question was “misleading” because I let Grok decide what was relevant or not and didn’t tell it that Bolotov may have been in the building (just like I didn’t tell it that children were present in the square attacked by the pilot) is as insane as A123’s claims that I voted for Kamala or that Soros is a Muslim.
Like I said from the beginning, you (along with A123) keep defending the Kremlin criminal narratives. If we can twist the Geneva Convention to claim that the Lugansk massacre wasn’t a war crime because Bolotov reportedly was in the building, then the Sumy massacre wasn’t a war crime either. Unlike in Lugansk, we know for a fact that a gathering of military officers was taking place in Sumy at the time, that the Russians claimed from the beginning to have targeted it and that they did have adequate weapons to do that.
You and your wife?
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https://www.wheresyoured.at/reality-check/
Open AI had a profit last year of minus 5 billion dollars. This is like Elizabeth Holmex X Sam Bankman Fried. When they get around to locking Altman up 400 years sounds like it’s about right.
It’s not about profit, it’s about dominance in the 4th industrial revolution. Who whom between China and US.
Am not myself familiar with Wong, but Karloff, who was one quarter Indian, also played Fu Manchu.
I have always thought Fu Manchu was an interesting character because he is one of the very rare, mainstream depictions of different civilizational spheres in competition, though unfortunately the stories were really pulps, very quickly written and without the polish of Moto.
I’m the pale one in the family. 🫥
“It’s not about profit, it’s about dominance in the 4th industrial revolution”
From here
https://www.fingleton.net/the-rise-of-east-asia-and-an-epochal-threat-to-american-freedoms-2/
The US has had its revenge on Germany though, when they blew up Nordstream 2 and did YUGE damage to German industry.
Are you one of those fellows like Zvi who has destroyed his google search tool by searching for and clicking upon too much garbage? You could have kept it pure and useful by following my cheat code. Actually you can repair it slow and steady following my cheat code henceforth. This should work as fast as dieting and exercise (i.e. if you are in horrible shape this will take a long time.)
Look at Daily Mail home page once per day. Just the headlines alone will give you more than a daily fill of garbage and it will not suckify your search history and cookie files which determine how useful your google search tool is. If you cannot resist you may click on a story there once every 2-3 days. Ignore all other slop in your various internet feed pipelines. The Daily Mail covers ALL.
It is as simple as that. You too by following simple steps can have a body mass index of 14-15 and a perfectly useful google search bar. You do have to commit.
Famous Tip O’Neill quote, though I don’t think he coined it. Certainly applicable to Rhazib.
Btw, I was kind of surprised when AK came out against Ghiblification. Thought he was all about embracing the machine.
There is probably a futurian argument for it. How many years since the last Ghibli movie before the Boy and the Heron? Pure human-made anime has been winding down for a long time, at least since the early nineties, or maybe before. Even within Ghibli. In fame, Shinkai, who has always used computers is Miyazaki’s successor. To a certain extent, even manga is made using computers. And animators have long been treated like peons, even in Disney’s day – they were typically fired at the end of a production.
One guy made this on his macbook circa 2001:
Pure human can’t create rain like this:
Or a sky like this:
Personally speaking, I have always appreciated the human touch, but am just playing devil’s advocate here. Is AK about to go on a Butlerian Jihad, I wonder?
Your mind sure does take you into some strange places.
He himself said he was in the building.
His presence there eliminates the condition of lack of proportionality.
Your choice to leave that piece of information out results in a flawed conclusion.
So you believe that pointing out that you deliberately left out a critical piece of information in order to get a flawed result is the same as claiming that you voted for Harris or that Soros is a Muslim.
Good to know.
It puts your claim that Poroshenko and Putin belong in the same basket in good perspective.
I’ll try to explain in a way that can be understood even by someone who equates a complaint that you purposefully left out critical information when asking a question in order to get a misleading response, with claiming that Soros is a Muslim.
1. Killing the rebel leadership in Luhansk would have crippled the rebellion/invasion and could have ended or shortened the war. Killing a gathering of officers in Sumy would have little if any effect on the war. So there was proportionality in Ukraine’s attack, but not in Russia’s.
2. In Sumy the Russians did a double tap attack. The first missile hit the supposed gathering of officers. The second one was aimed at the square in order to kill first responders (and also killed civilians). Targeting ambulances is itself a war crime. In Luhansk, Ukraine only targeted the building, it wasn’t aiming at the square nor did it do a double tap attack to kill responding medical or fire personnel. So there was no analogue between the attack by Ukraine on the Luhansk administrative building with rebel leadership inside and Russia’s second missile strike on the square in Sumy that killed first responders and civilians.
3. Russia’s attack on Sumy was part of an overall illegal invasion whereas Ukraine was fighting off rebels and invading Russians within its own territory.
Russians are not easy to fool, in fact they have superior intel
I see no reason to believe that.
They missed both the Kursk and Belgorod incursions. Kursk was a complete surprise.
They were unprepared for the Prigozhin incursion even though his large force had driven for hours in broad daylight.
You could say they missed the Syrian rebellion but the evidence points to Putin intention all betraying Assad as an excuse to bring his remaining armored units to Ukraine.
Ivan’s satellites seem to be lacking.
You are really digging and getting nothing, that’s a small folklore group that is actually anti-Nazi and pro-Russia, their main issues are religion and family. When they march in the big cities they get attacked by screaming pro-abortion LGBTQRST activists from NGOs. You are way off…these traditionalist groups exist everywhere, they are not comparable to Banderite Nazis in Ukraine.
It’s the same in Poland, Hungary and Czechia. Don’t mix up social issues and rural patriots with pro-Nazis celebrating Bandera openly and naming stadiums and streets in Ukraine. Or Waffen SS marching in Latvia.
You are right. The US economy and population are 10 times the size of Canadian. US tariffs can do a significant harm to Canadian economy. US-Canada bilateral trade is one of the largest in the world. It is a well known fact that Canadian Conservatives are favoured by Washington while Liberals are causing somewhat strained relationship.
Some of Moto’s films were first written by the prolific novelist John Marquand, from your neck of the woods in Massachusetts. He even won a pulitzer prize for one of his novels famous for revealing insights into the foibles of upper class life in the area, “The Late Georg Apley”. I found three interesting pulp covers relate to his detective Moto genre:
These guys don’t look like any Slovak country bumpkins to me?…Ukrainian/German cooperation was short lived and nowhere as well developed as within Slovakia.
Robert Svec, second from right, leader of the far-right Slovak Revival Movement, at an event honoring Jozef Tiso, Slovakia’s wartime fascist leader.Credit…Akos Stiller for The New York Times
Looks to me like you’re the one barking up the wrong tree! 🙂
I was shocked by the easy penetration of Ukraine into Kursk region and even more surprised at how long it was sustained. I thought it would be cut off at the border and encircle. Not good episode for the Russian military leaderships (I think some heads felled afterwords).
Thank you for letting me live rent free in your head. The fact that I defeated you repeatedly and you constantly obsess over my demonstrated superiority is gratifying.
You may once again attempt to prove me wrong, but the burden of proof is yours.
The circumstantial evidence against George IslamoSoros is overwhelming. Let me recap some key points.
-1- The IslamoSoros openly supports the genocidal BDS movement which is dedicated to the extermination of 7 million Palestinian Jews who have nowhere else to go. Are you suggesting all of them should come here and become U.S. citizens? His activities against Palestinian Jews are so problematic Israel explicitly issues warnings about him.
-2- He openly supports The Great Muslim Replacement of European Jews and Christians in Europe. Here is a picture of the IslamoSoros funded SJW🏳️🌈Muslim troop transport Sea Watch 4 carrying Islamist invaders to Europe. Note the Antifa hate flag in addition to the gay Muslim rainbow one.
-3- George IslamoSoros conducts SJW🏳️🌈Muslim activities here in America. He backs corrupt DA’s to maximize crime against Jewish and Christian Americans. It is no secret that he funds race based antisemitism like BLM.
-4- Christian Russia has banned NGO’s backed by The IslamoSoros: (1)
-5- George IslamoSoros and his NGO’s have no obvious operations running in Muslim nations to destabilize them. His activities are near exclusive to damaging Judeo-Christians and their states. Finding a few low $ outliers would not invalidate this premise. You would need to show a material of funding flowing to oppose Islam in favor of Judeo-Christian interests.
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Once again — The burden of proof is yours — Come up with an explanation why: George IslamoSoros
• Always aligns against Judeo-Christians
• Enthusiastically funds The Great Muslim Replacement in Europe
• Has no (or very few) operations targeting Islamic causes or states
Occam’s Razor strongly suggests that The IslamoSoros is a Muslim. Why else would he support the Muslim side 99%+ of the time?
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(1) From 2015 — https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-to-bar-soros-other-foreign-ngos/
It’s becoming a sad spectacle to watch how no amount of reasoning or sarcasm can prevent you from doubling-down on the same nonsense. It’s crystal clear that I didn’t fail to provide any information to Grok (in favor or against any conclusion). As an LLM with access to everything on the web, I let it assess by itself what pieces of information were relevant.
I’ve explained much-much more difficult things to my 10-year old son. I do it every week when we practice reading comprehension exercises for school.
Bullcrap. Then throwing a grenade to a crowd of innocent civilians because you think that a military commander may be in that general area would not be a violation of the Geneva Convention.
More bull. Putin himself had more rebel leaders killed than Ukraine could ever hope to kill with their hapless unguided rockets in Lugansk and the rebellion/invasion got even worse for Kiev after that.
Totally irrelevant for International Humanitarian Law. Belligerents of any armed conflict are bound by its articles whether aggressors or defenders. And again, we know for a fact that in Sumy there was a gathering of military officers, that the Russians tried to kill them and that they used weapons capable of accomplishing that goal. None of that is the case in Lugansk. And even so, the Sumy attack would likely be deemed a war crime in court and an immorality by any decent person. Imagine the carnage in Lugansk.
Russia did not take forces, off the main line to move them north. They sent new units from the Moscow area to deal with the incursion into Kursk oblast. This took time to setup, but turned into grinding losses for Kiev aggression.
PEACE 😇
Battle of the Nations
ATP
1. Italy **
2. Germay
3. Spain
4. United States
5. Serbia
6. Great Britain
7. Australia
8. Russia
9. Norway
10. Russia
WTA
1. Belarus
2. Poland
3. United States
4. United States
5. United States
6. Italy
7. Russia
8. China
9. Spain
10. United States
** The Italian is currently suspended for drugs but is cleared to play at next Grand Slam tournament in Paris.
Also: WTF happened to Miss Kazakhstan? Apparently the Polish secret police or somebody has organized a campaign against her and her coach because she is too hot or something. And also: the only negroes on the board are the second highest ranked American woman and the Italian woman. The only uggo is the top ranked Belarus beast, although only Miss Poland, Miss Russia (she’s now 18!), and Miss Spain can be rated as suitable for taking home to meet Mom.
Jozef Tiso was a catholic priest that saved Slovakian existence during the WWII by engaging Hitler to stop Nazi Hungary and the backstabbing Polaks to divide Slovakia between them. This happened after Munich agreement whereby Chechia became German protectorate and Slovakia German puppet. Tiso was executed by bloodthirsty Chechia/Soviet.
In your question to Grok, you failed to mention that the rebel leader stated that he and other leaders were in the building at the time of the attack. This deliberate omission by you resulted in a flawed answer.
Basic stuff. I empathize with Dmitry in his interactions with you.
He stated that he was there and it beggars belief that Ukraine just happened to, by sheer coincidence, attack the same place at the same time he was there unknowingly.
And at this early stage of the war, wiping out the rebel leadership would have saved hundreds and perhaps thousands of lives – far more than were at risk due to the attack. So this meets the standard of proportionality.
Btw, why did you fail to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the comparison you made between the second part of the Russian double tap attack in Sumy (when Russia deliberately struck the square in order to kill first responders, as a result killing them and also civilians) and Ukraine’s attack on the rebel HQ building while rebel leaders were inside?
That might cover the first strike (if not for proportionality), but not the one that came right after, aimed at rescue workers and killing them as well as various civilians.
To review: according to Mikel, pointing out that omitting information like the self-described presence of rebel leadership in an attacked building when asking a question is the same as claiming that George Soros is a Muslim. And a double tap attack on ambulance drivers and rescue workers that kills over 2 dozen civilians is about the same as an attack on a HQ building with rebel military leaders inside that kills 8 civilians.
The places one goes when trying to avoid reality…
Bandera did the same vis a vis Nazis, Soviets and Poles.
Except unlike with Slovaks, Soviets actually murdered 10,000s Ukrainians prior to the Nazi invasion of western Ukraine. Slovaks have no such excuse for their strong support of Hitler and alliance with him.
Slovaks and Hungarians* just have a tendency to ally with Nazis and those like them. It’s why they are on Putin’s side now, they know what they like and support that.
If you want to know who is most like the Nazis, look to see whom Hungary and Slovakia are allied with. That will be your answer.
* Not all, but most. The same types who supported the Nazi alliance in the past, currently support the Putin alliance.
Russia did not take forces, off the main line to move them north. They sent new units from the Moscow area to deal with the incursion into Kursk oblast.
Russia was caught unprepared as seen by the fact that they had inexperienced 18 year olds guarding the border and with zero warning.
This was after a Ukrainian force traveled for at least an hour undetected.
This took time to setup, but turned into grinding losses for Kiev aggression.
And how would we know that?
The ISW reported that Russian armor losses were a record high for the first quarter. The more likely scenario is that Ukraine planted themselves defensively in Kursk with the expectation that Putin would mindlessly throw waves of attackers to remove them.
The ISW has been correct about declining Russian armor while Ritter/MacGregor and their repeated claims of “new armies” have been wrong. Both of them went on rants about Russia being on some super duper war footing and that their military manufacturing will massive increase. Well that doesn’t seem to be the case. Once again there was recent footage of Russian soldiers on e-scooters. Something is very wrong with Russia these days. Stalin would never have allowed this.
I understand that supporting a massacre of civilians is an impossible task to accomplish without engaging in ugly dialectical contortions but then again, nobody forces you do do it. It is perfectly possible to support an armed response to the Donbas rebels while at the same time distancing oneself from atrocities like Lugansk, which incidentally is what all pro-Ukraine pundits did at the time, eg Luke Harding iirc, CNN journalists at the scene and countless others.
While it’s difficult to establish a ranking of stupid claims, saying that I misled Grok by not pointing out an uncorroborated fact and letting it asses all available facts by itself is definitely in the same nonsensical category as claiming that Soros is a Muslim or, more to the point, that I misled Grok when I asked how to replace a wheel in my car while failing to point out that I can’t lift my car without a jack.
But well, at least you are right that I deliberately omitted pointing out those details to Grok. You haven’t totally lost your marbles yet, there’s more ground for you to dig 🙂
Yeah sure. As we all know, that’s how our political and military leaders (especially those in Kiev and Moscow) decide how to conduct a particular strike. They run several Montecarlo simulations of how many civilians will be saved in the future by killing x amount of civilians now and they never dare order any strike if the result is not satisfactory. Surely that’s what Turchinov did on June 2nd!
Actually, looking at the conflicts around the world today, it’s hard to not have the impression that we are ruled by incompetent sociopaths. Whether the response in Donbas by the Ukrainian post-coup ad hoc “government” or the Russian invasion in 2022 by the government led by a man who was in his third decade at the helm of the RF, the level of planning and execution of the operations appears abysmal. I would sadly conclude that it is just a Slavic affair, but when we look at what is happening elsewhere, Gaza being one of the few places to observe, it appears that others are perhaps just slightly better. Even Chinese bullying of the poor Pinoys in the South China Sea looks like a silly but nevertheless deadly dangerous kindergarten drama. India and Pakistan not being able to co-exist without having a conflagration every decade or so. And then there’s Trump’s tariffs that are probably bound to miserably fail.
Idiocraty…
Try as I might,I just can’t seem to find a similar photo of Bandera shaking hands with Hitler? I even checked the archives of the Sachsenhausen concentration camp where Hitler had Bandera interned for most of the war period, all to no avail – nada?…
Technically-speaking, Mr. Moto wasn’t a pulp because it was in a glossy (Saturday Evening Post), and I don’t think Marquand was involved in the script-writing of the movies, though some of them have the same titles as his stories.
Only the first illustration is classic pulp-style. (probably the only one to date from the era) He looks like a guy who could do a judo-throw, but I don’t think it is an interesting composition otherwise, being pretty unoriginal. I suspect these were just commissioned to sell the repackaged novels, and we probably cannot expect there to be any good Mr. Moto illustrations. you could certainly find better illustrations for The Shadow or Doc Savage (actual pulps.)
Another interesting thing about Mr. Moto is how he came up against a geopolitical bubble. He was created to take advantage of the desire for exoticism, was made Japanese to be distinguishable from Chan, but unlucky for the author, it just so happened to coincide with the rise of Japanese militarism. It even is kind of explicit in the stories, where on some level he is represented as being part of a good faction in a power struggle against a bad faction. But it basically means he had an early expiry date.
Halliburton claimed to have gone to a circus in Berlin once where natives of Borneo were exhibited in a cage and when he got close up to it, he realized they were blacks from the Mississippi.
Possibly made it up though, as Mark Twain was making jokes like that about being a tourist visiting Indians (feather.)
I never “supported a massacre of civilians.”
8 innocent people were tragically killed in a failed attempt to wipe out a violent rebel leadership that had started killing people.
Would you conclude that each and every action in war that results in civilian casualties is a “massacre of civilians?” Is that how you would describe or summarize each such battle?
At the time, the rebel leader had not yet admitted to having been in the building at the time of the attack.
It was not an uncorroborated fact that Bolotov stated that he was in the building at the time of the attack.
His assertion that he was there was not corroborated (nor was it refuted), but he did state that he was there. It’s quite relevant when the leader of the rebellion states that he and other leaders were in the building at the time of the attack. Deliberately omitting this fact (that he claimed to have been there) results in a flawed answer.
One doesn’t need to run Monte Carlo simulations to figure that the benefit of wiping out the rebel leadership in the rebellion’s infancy would likely save hundreds if not thousands of lives, at the risk of a small number of civilian casualties.
And here you go again, equating Kiev to Moscow. Pretending the two are the same and make the same sorts of decisions and actions.
It’s a stupid equivalence that you have not retracted – the Luhansk operation aimed at killing rebel leaders who attacked Ukraine, but instead killing 8 civilians, with a deliberate attack on rescue workers that killed over 2 dozen people in Sumy. Bashibuzuk engages in similarly stupid equivalencies (Ukraine and Russia are both equally guilty because although Russia has killed 100,000+ people in 2022, Ukrainians sang rude anti-Russian songs before it all started and after their people were killed by Luhansk rebels and Russians they tried to attack the rebel leadership but killed 8 people).
Neither one of you is stupid (you make good points on some other topics), so why would smart people make such stupid claims? Sometimes it’s fun to speculate. In your case, your unwarranted fear of Russia drives your motivation to not help Ukraine adequately as it is invaded and attacked, so you pretend victim and perpetrator are the same, and throw mud on the victim. Then you can feel good about looking the other way for the sake of your supposed safety. In Bashi’s case, despite his sincere disgust at Rusfed, he remains attached to it more than to anyone else, those are his people, he can’t bring himself to admit that the Russian side is clearly the wrong one here, so he also blurs the distinction between victim and perpetrator and blames both.
Are you kidding? I looked up the guy (you could have too), he has a mini-mini-party that got 1,800 votes and nobody knows about them. Oddballs exist in all countries. The three guys look like a definition of country bumpkins and their issue is LGBT, they are traditionalists. For all one knows probably Baptist or Mormon converts (we have a few hundred of them, they stand on corners in bad suits and get paid by the US church-goers).
Answer my question: who was right in WW2? Germany and its allies or Russia (SU) and its allies? If you are unable to do it we know where you stand…
And who knows how many civilians are being vaporized in Yemen by Trump right now.
We’re focusing on one war and in these past couple of threads on one specific massacre due to the stubbornness of a certain commenter but I posit that in the past decades not one single political or military leader has made the calculation of how many future civilian lives would be saved by conducting this or that military strike. That is just not how our governments and militaries take their decisions. To suggest that in the bloody counterinsurgency operation launched by Kiev against Donbas they did make those calculations is incredibly ridiculous.
Soon after assuming power, Poroshenko declared that order would be restored in the East “not in a matter of weeks or months but in a matter of days”. But his plan for that goal turned out to be a ruthless military operation that was met by an equally pigheaded defense by the rebels and the Russians. The rest of this conflict, including thousands of innocent lives lost, was the result of a stubborn fight for control of the territory, with loss of civilian life being a second thought at best. Why pretend that it was something else?
Look what I just did. I asked Grok this question:
Does what we know about the recent Sumy missile attack by the Russians that killed multiple civilians have the elements of a war crime?
Of course Grok also answered in the affirmative. Excerpt:
Why It Constitutes a War Crime
The Sumy attack exhibits war crime elements…
According to your twisted logic, I “misled” Grok by failing to inform it that a gathering of military leaders was taking place at the time of the attack and therefore Grok’s answer is “flawed”.
I mean, you could not only support Ukraine’s military response to the rebel insurgency, you could even support the Lugansk air attack without engaging in this total nonsense that whitewashes the Kremlin’s own crimes. Why ruin your intellectual reputation like this (as if the moral one wasn’t enough)?
Random YT suggestion, a 1940s US movie about Ukrainian Soviets facing Germans. Banned and heavily edited in the 1950s for being too red:
How similar is Germany’s grid to Spain’s?
Are you suggesting that they are allied with Kiev Nazis who are holding Zelensky by the balls. No, it is the EU ignoramus elite that is allied with Ukraine Nazi regime. The truth about the Kiev events from 2014 – staged by the CIA cookies in cooperation with UkieNazis – is surfacing in alternative media by the real journalists or military experts.
So what are you suggesting, Bandera was too nasty even for Hitler?
These discussions of war crimes and proportionality and conventions (LOL) have helped me reach a clarification on the SMO which I offer for consideration.
As many people realize, this war in Ukraine is at root a proxy war against Russia waged by the West using Ukraine as the proxy. This war involves tapping into pre-existing real grievances between the proxy and the target country which are fanned by both organic and subversive processes into a white hot flame of nationalism. The recognition of the proxy war in Ukraine is no longer even remotely controversial as US politicians have openly stated the point. So this is a proxy war by an alliance of nuclear-armed countries against another nuclear-armed country. As AP has lamented, the proxy country is apparently not nuclear armed. From a nuclear warfare perspective, the SMO is simply the early stage of a nuclear war and has little commensurability with all previous wars in terms of the standard very gray moral scalings. Once the nuclear war starts the likelihood of hundreds of millions of people dying promptly and billions dying within a year is very high. Our world changed on August 6, 1945 with a quantum leap in the immorality of war.
My point of clarity is that any calculation of proportionality in Eastern Ukraine is distorted because the proxy (Ukraine) may be fighting at the tactical and regional level while the target country (Russia) is really fighting at the nuclear level. While they both may be fighting what they view as an existential battle the situation is very asymmetric. In nuclear war or nuclear standoff the number one goal is to avoid escalation to nuclear weapons use or at minimum to keep this use tactical (if that is even possible). This is the primary imperative. This means that virtually anything Russia does in Ukraine might be viewed as acceptably proportional if nuclear war is avoided. There is no equivalent “scaling” on the Ukrainian side. I know the Ukrainians don’t like this perspective on the situation. I don’t like it either, but I didn’t set the insane ground rules of mutually assured destruction.
The entire situation is insane. The leaders in the West are insane and evil for attempting this proxy war. The leaders of Ukraine are insane and suicidal for participating in this war. It is fairly clear that the West thought Russia was too weak both economically and in terms of non-nuclear military strength to fight this war. They apparently also believed the Kremlin was unwilling to wage a nuclear war in response to an existential threat. It is unclear how the Western leaders could be so foolish and cavalier on this point. If we survive, this NATO travesty will go down as the stupidest and most dangerous geopolitical/military gamble in all of human history.
Has any Ukrainian politician or oligarch been hurt during these 11 years of open conflict, of which 3 years now have been an outright war of invasion?
I can’t think of a single Ukrainian elite personality being killed or even wounded during this fight. OTOH, the pro-Russian militants’ leaders and high echelon Russian military officers have been killed in the dozens.
So basically, the Ukrainian elite is not very much worried about the negative consequences of their choices. Worse case scenario, they will leave a ruined country behind and relocate to Monaco, Miami, Dubai, London and Tel Aviv…
They’re immoral, but they’re not insane. Their risks are limited. Their potential gains are much less so, the longer the war goes on, the more they accrue wealth.
If Kiev and Zelensky were Nazis, Slovaks and Hungarians would be allied with them.
The fact that they ae not is evidence that Kiev and Zelensky are not Nazis.
SU and Germany were allies until Germany stabbed their ally, SU, in the back.
Both SU and Germany were evil bloodthirsty regimes. Both were wrong.
When WW2 started, SU was clearly the worse country, but later Germany showed itself to be even worse. Though each was horrible n its own way, and they were not equally bad to various peoples.
Western allied made a deal with one of the two wrong countries against the other wrong country.
There were two missiles launched at Sumy recently. The first was aimed at the meeting of military officers, the second one soon afterward was aimed at first responders (medics, firemen) in the square outside.
Accordingly, mentioning the military meeting would have been relevant if discussing only the first missile strike, but would not have mattered for the second one and therefore not for the Sumy attack as a whole.
And, as I had explained to you earlier, proportionality plays a more significant role in the Sumy attack, because in this case taking out some military officers is not as significant as the entire leadership. Had Sirsky been there OTOH and had there been no second strike upon the square for the purpose of killing first responders, it would have been analogous to the Luhansk strike and therefore probably not a war crime.
It does not whitewash the Kremlin’s crimes because the two actions are not at all comparable.
That you believe a strike aimed at ambulance drivers, medics and firefighters at a square outside a previous missile strike, that kills 30 or so civilians, is the same as a strike aimed at enemy leaders that happens to kill 8 civilians, says more about you than about each situation. You are really struggling to pour dirt on Ukraine to make it equal to Russia, and it isn’t working. Pouring dirt on the victim in order to blur the distinction between victim and perpetrator is no better than whitewashing the perpetrator’\s actions, and oindeed serves a similar end.
Incoherent nonsense you specialize in. You didn’t answer the question, who was right? Germany or Russia? What are you afraid of? If you are with the Nazis admit it and don’t dance around like a lost spinster.
UK-France-Poland and Germany were allies until Germany stabbed Poland in the back in 1939 – the alliance was formed in Munich 1938.
Both UK-France-Poland and Germany were evil bloodthirsty regimes. UK and France murdered millions around the world, Poland tried to create a mini-empire in CE Europe.
Russia made a deal with the allies against Germany, although the Anglos for all practical purposes stayed out of the war in 1941-44, France stayed out completely. They only joined a year before the end of WW2 when Germany was already defeated by Russia.
See, I fixed it for you. We can all write our version of what happened. Both are incomplete, but mine is a lot closer to reality than yours.
Neither Germany nor its ally the Soviets were right.
Russia wasn’t involved. Most Russians fought for the Soviets but 100,000s of them fought for the Germans.
There was no alliance between Germany and Poland and even if your false claim were true this does not change the fact that Germany and the Soviets were allies 1939-1941. Real allies, coordinating their actions and sending supplies to one another, letting Germany use a Soviet naval base..
Wiki:
Germany and the Soviet Union entered an intricate trade pact on 11 February 1940 that was over four times larger than the one that the two countries had signed in August 1939.[220] The new trade pact helped Germany surmount a British blockade.[220] In the first year, Germany received one million tons of cereals, half-a-million tons of wheat, 900,000 tons of oil, 100,000 tons of cotton, 500,000 tons of phosphates and considerable amounts of other vital raw materials, along with the transit of one million tons of soybeans from Manchuria. Those and other supplies were being transported through Soviet and occupied Polish territories.[220]…
The Soviets also helped Germany to avoid British naval blockades by providing a submarine base, Basis Nord, in the northern Soviet Union near Murmansk.[212] That also provided a refueling and maintenance location and a takeoff point for raids and attacks on shipping.[212] In addition, the Soviets provided Germany with access to the Northern Sea Route for both cargo ships and raiders though only the commerce raider Komet used the route before the German invasion, which forced Britain to protect sea lanes in both the Atlantic and the Pacific
Good to see you use Nazi arguments against the British and the French. Your Slovak nature is showing.
Unlike SU, Poland didn’t kill millions of people.
Patrick Lancaster is embedded with the Chechens in the Kursk/Belgorod/Sumy area. Drones and artillery:
Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, is commander of the Azov Nazi battalion. The symbology makes it undeniable.
The fact that Germany is linked to them supports this analysis. And, authoritarian Germany loathes Hungary & Slovakia for not submitting to their whims.
Why would Slovaks and Hungarians ally with Führer Zelensky and neo-Nazi Kiev?
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It appears that Tiso and Hitler had enough in common that both felt positive about having a mutually beneficial photo opt together. Hitler thought that Bandera was untrustworthy and could be possibly used as a source of influence if need be when the Nazis dealt with the Ukrainian nationalists, thus he was kept under close scrutiny within Sachsenhausen concentration camp.
The way that it turned out, the victory of the Allies over the Axis powers of course. Any more brilliant questions? 🙂
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Here’s a list of the Moto novels that were penned by Marquand:
Some of these were translated into films.
“The Khokhol Battalion”
At least a dozen Russian military generals have been killed, including the recent car bombing of top general Moskalik. How do you explain this apparent mismatch in casualty figures? Russian ineptitude, Ukrainian prowess?
Germany is led by the CDU with junior partner SPD. Neither are Nazis, they are anti-Nazi, especially SPD.
AfD are not Nazis, but they are the closest thing in Germany to Nazis (some of their members have expressed support or sympathy for Nazis). AfD electorate matches the old Nazi electorate.
Predictably, AfD supports Slovakia, Hungary, and Putin. If AfD comes to power, Germany would be allied with Slovakia, Hungary and Russia against Poland and the Western allies. An example of history rhyming with 1939-1940.
I don’t remember the context too well, as it was many years ago that I read it. I think Twain may have been visiting Niagara Falls or something, and met with various people in Indian dress, some of them selling stuff, and when he spoke to them he found they had brogues, and they threatened him with violence, if he exposed the scam. It was an obvious joke, from the way it was constructed.
I myself remember hearing a similar joke about people pretending to be zoo animals, so I think it is certainly within the realm of possibility that Halliburton made it up. he claimed not make stuff up, but well… I am of a cynical mind. It would certainly be funny, if true though.
Have both read Think Fast, Mr. Moto and seen the film, though many years apart. I’d say they are pretty significantly different. There are different characters and settings and the way Mr. Moto appears is different. I don’t think the films are the Marquand experience.
Your brain has been fried by your hatred of the Russians. People used to be put in institutions when reaching that state of incoherence. At least we know what kind of crazy we are dealing with…:)
So Russia wasn’t “involved“? We can also say that England wasn’t involved but most English fought for UK…:) And the French were not involved because they were hiding or assisting Germany. If the Munich Treaty (in 1938!) was not an alliance of UK-France with Germany what would be? Poland enthusiastically joined to grab a piece of territory, as always stupid and treacherous at the same time.
“Wiki”? Why don’t you source directly from the neo-cons? It’s sad how low your have sunk.
You may laugh but there is a thing called the Geneva Convention that 196 countries have signed, at least in part. Those include the US, Ukraine and Russia. Believe or not, wars used to be even worse in the past.
Thanks to countries adhering to these treaties, albeit very imperfectly as I have argued in the discussions above, some horrors are a thing of the past and even in the current Ukraine war you see some elements of humanity from time to time. Even in WW2, the deadliest war in humankind history, all parties adhered to the agreement of not using gas weapons, that had caused so much suffering in WW1.
The persistence of senseless wars that could have perfectly been avoided like the one we are discussing leaves little space to be optimistic. I doubt humanity will survive itself without some genetic alteration, we remain too close to our simian origins at a profound level. But in the meantime it is important to call out people who engage in unseemly contortions to justify the violation of the fragile treaties that we do have.
In fact, you always find that every normal person under normal circumstances accepts that bombing a city center full of civilians is pure barbarism, regardless of any excuses. It’s only a small minority of people highly radicalized with political or religious motives who dispute this type of things, as we can see on this blog.
Oh, I see. You still don’t understand how these LLMs work and everything I’ve told you in the latest comments went totally over your head.
Let me try to explain again. These AI systems have lightning fast access to everything that is publicly available on the internet and you don’t need to feed them that kind of information. On the contrary, you expect that they will find for you any relevant information that you don’t have. It’s actually the whole purpose of their existence at this stage.
For example, once you fully understand the above, asking Grok “Explain how to change the wheel of a car but bear in mind that I can’t lift it without a jack” is a pretty moronic question. “Explain how to change the wheel of a car” is a much better question and actually reduces the chances of a flawed answer.
Hope this helps.
Also, Soros is not a Muslim.
Is Ze the worst-dressed man who ever attended a pope’s funeral?
https://twitter.com/haravayin_hogh/status/1916201054716498131
Policy positions have gone through substantial shifts in recent years. Globalist parties such as Green and SPD are now openly pro-war. Populist parties such as AfD are anti-war and anti-Nazi.
I previously commented on the Fascist Stormtroopers of Antifa. They are the new Blackshirts: (1)
Hypocrisy from the Globalist end of the political spectrum is very visible. Yes, SPD and Greens were anti-Nazi in the past. Based on their *current* behaviour, and that of their supporters, they have evolved into a functionally pro-Nazi stance.
There is good reason to believe that Konfederacja + PiS will win over half the seats in the next parliamentary elections. AfD are natural partners with both. It is not hard to envision Germany, Slovakia, Hungary and Poland on the same side.
Russia would like decent relations with Europe. However, they are not looking for “allies”. Bringing the Yamal pipeline back up to full flow would be good for everyone. Transit fees would help both Poland and Belarus specifically. Money does not fix historical animosity, but it makes it easier to deal with.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/08/lk-samuels/the-fascist-history-of-antifa/
Russian fake surrenders to drone and grabs it
I was thinking Thanedar belonged to some strange tribe, but since then I have seen some explain his face with plastic surgery, which is probably more likely given his age, and overall appearance (ex: hair).
Another one here because of a student visa!
Why are you ignoring my post #928? (1)
Prove it. The burden of proof is yours.
That is quite naive on your part.
AI’s have training biases. When given a neutral question they will apply that learning bias while answering. Providing details to an AI limits, but does not eliminate, the impact of bias.
A subjective political question versus a objective physical task is not a fair comparison. There are vastly more opportunities for bias to creep in when processing political questions. Though, it is noteworthy that AI often produces substandard cooking recipes, for example (2).
Blind faith in the capability of AI’s can easily lead one astray.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-272/#comment-7104554
(2) https://sugarspunrun.com/are-ai-recipes-actually-any-good-i-put-one-to-the-test/
Even more entertaining — The Fake Stream Media ignored Führer Zelensky’s black track suit. And then, attempted to create a 100% bogus controversy over Trump’s dark blue suit. (1)
Guess who else wore a blue suit?
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(1) https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2025/04/27/brace-yourself-new-trump-scandal-could-be-the-biggest-of-them-all-n4939286
I fully agree with that.
A person who believes that George Soros is a Mohammedan should only use AI systems sparingly or under supervision, for his own good.
Ze looks to me like he is about to work on a truck engine.
The last time I recall anyone in the media talking about dress code at a funeral it was in regard to Reagan’s funeral and his daughter. But I think that was talk radio.
It’s the same government which has been moving Canada to an iceberg for ten years.
Sometimes, changing the CEO can save a company. But they need to the reverse the direction of the previous management. Is it possible in the political party, when the employees and values will be the same as the previous leader.
Trudeau, a classical example for society’s anti-wisdom to select based on hereditary sovereign and because of physical appearance, as unusual example of selection for both at the same time.
Trump at least is only upper class and in an unusual way which is not like someone from a finishing school, while Gabbard is at least only good looking.
But Trudeau is selected by voters for the combination, which allowed him to win election multiple times, while minimizing values in the useful areas (government policy, strategy for Canada etc)
He’s 53 years veteran international leader, like similar age as when Bismarck has unified Germany. He is ruler of a country with the same population as Napoleon’s France.
But he believes his role is to be popular young socialite who gives money to every group, so they can party, which is actually like his parent’s money (Canadian government).
And he has a British wife who in some media indicated could be politically radical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Fox_Carney
The only time in history when anyone cares about Chelyabinsk, drawing them a yellow arrow, and a white arrow to Orsk instead of Orenburg.
The situation in the popular zones in Europe now is crazy quantity of tourists. There will be over 800 million tourist visits in Europe this year.
Although supposedly American tourism in Europe was going to fall compared to last year, to visit the center of a popular European city, you still have push by thousands of young American tourists. It’s like a significant proportion of America’s population, who seem to be tourists in Europe every weekend, it seems like the Atlantic Ocean is now a small lake Americans travel over effortlessly.
I guess if Trump’s protectionism goes this year, American tourists will soon be carrying even larger bags, to illegally immigrate wheels of Parmesan and legs of Prosciutto into the USA’s borders.
I remember Prigozhin was a great troll before he got PTSD, at the beginning of Bakhmut he announced he’ll be running for president of Ukraine.
Rebuilt T-62:
Jason Whitlock had a take on the Philadelphia Eagles at the White House I have not seen elsewhere. The news item for negroes is that Eagles star negroes with negro wives skipped and Eagles star negroes with white wives attended. Whitlock said they like the white women because they will follow the husband’s lead and negro women will not. Now all blanket statements are wrong (except this one) but Jason is a negro and maybe he has a point.
I know, I am getting too cynical. Humanity doesn’t get better unless we work to make it better.
I agree that the existence of WMDs force humans into making decisions we are ill-equipped to make.
Is interesting that gas was banned but nukes were not. Now the false accusation that some government used gas might be enough twisted justification to nuke them and kill all the civilians who had nothing to do with the gas, even if the accusation had been true. The “advantage” of gas is that a lot of terribly injured survivors made it back home and at least some people had to face the horror. Nuclear weapons seem distant and artificially clinical because the countries which created them have never experienced the effects.
It’s a wacky world.
Tourism in Ireland appears to be down significantly. In the past year, -30% for March. But believe it fits into longer trends for the country. Some are blaming word about the influx of migrants getting out – Ireland doesn’t really have great cities, so people come for the ambience.
Others blame housing demand from immigration, which has made finding a place to stay costly.
Here is a nice clip by some of the usual suspects. He argues that NATO has been de facto in Ukraine since 2007. I think he is referring to a publicly acknowledged presence. Some of his other facts are equally terrible.
AfD are pro-war when Russia wages it, and it includes Nazis although is not dominated by them. So it is Nazi-friendly, at least as much as a German party can be, given that Nazism is officially banned in Germany.
PiS is anti-Russian (they insist that Putin murdered their leader). They are also anti-German, demanding that Germany pay Poland $1.3 trillion in wartime reparations.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/poland-officially-demand-ww2-reparations-germany-says-ruling-party-boss-2022-09-01/
AfD is the natural partner of Russia, Slovakia and Hungary. Former allies of Nazi Germany (Russia is not the USSR but occupies a similar place). Romania too, if the short disgusting degenerate had not been banned from running for President.
Fortunately AfD does not yet control Germany. The heirs of the old Catholic Centrum and the socialists work together to keep it down. So Slovaks and Hungarians eager for a new Molotov-Ribbentrop alliance that they can collaborate with will have to wait.
Soviets persecuted Russian patriots and nationalists. Their country was led by a Georgian.
Actual Russian nationalists such as Vlasovites often fought for the Nazis. Vlasov’s Russian Liberation Army had around 125,000 troops. But most Russians fought for their cruel Georgian master, and venerate him today as they venerate their other cruel non-Russian masters. The ones who were kinder to the Russian people such as Nicholas II aren’t liked as much by them.
Did UK persecute English patriots?
It might now, but not during World War II.
You must not know what an alliance is.
Was Germany allowed to use French and British bases, as it was allowed to use the Soviet naval base by its Soviet ally?
I really cannot dumb things down any more than I already have with regards to your nonsensical complaint that I misled Grok but, in order to avoid the further foolish discussions that I expect you to carry on with, I had another idea: Do exactly what you say I should have done!
So I asked Grok this:
Dear Grok, Valery Bolotov claimed to be in the Lugansk regional admin building that was attacked from the air in June 2014. Does this attack have the elements of a war crime?
And this is Grok’s conclusion after lengthy explanations (it now mentions the violation of 3, not just 2 IHL principles):
Conclusion
The June 2, 2014, airstrike on the Luhansk RSA building likely contains elements of a war crime based on IHL violations:
Distinction: The attack hit civilian areas (park, outside the building), killing non-combatants, suggesting a failure to distinguish between military and civilian targets.
Proportionality: The civilian deaths (at least eight) and injuries appear excessive relative to the military advantage, especially with no confirmed separatist losses.
Precaution: The use of unguided munitions in a populated area and lack of warnings indicate inadequate precautions to minimize civilian harm.
Bolotov’s Role: Bolotov’s presence could have made the building a legitimate target, but IHL requires verification of such high-value targets and careful assessment of civilian risks. There’s no evidence Ukraine confirmed his presence or weighed the civilian cost.
Do you disagree with Grok’s answer to the question you claimed was the “correct” one? How is this Artificial Intelligence-generated answer “flawed” now?
Please provide citations where senior AfD officials state they will send funds or war material to Russia.
AfD has solid anti-war & anti-Nazi positions. They will:
• Stop sending funds to Führer Zelensky for Nazi aggression.
• Not provide resources to Russia.
PEACE 😇
A lot of truth in that.
An English illustrator and leading colonist named John White drew illustrations of the ‘Indians’ found in North America in the late 16th century. Before that, he had drawn not dissimilar pictures of the Irish in Ireland, in both instances to sell Britain on ‘planting’/colonizing these lands, aka ‘plantatations’.
Ireland it could be said also were the first people to get a taste of a primordial ‘progressive’ Multi-Culturalism with the ‘plantations’ of centuries ago, and their ‘successive waves of migrants’, which just about did them in.
However, against all the odds, Ireland overcame all that and got off to a good organic start with the founding of their republic about a hundred years ago. Sinn Féin for instance translates from the Gaelic as ‘We Ourselves’.
Unfortunately, as many a people have, their efforts were sabotaged when they fell into the Capitalist vs Communist dialectical trap, a dialectic for which organic peoplehood is anathema, and where all roads ultimately (it seems) lead back to London.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in
http://old-new-orleans.com/NO_Irish_Memorial.html
I nominate this as the spookiest spot in New Orleans. Better than Marie Leveaux’s grave or the old slave market. Nobody knows how many Irish immigrants are buried in the mass graves there. They did not count them.
I just checked on the UN tourism dashboard and Ireland hasn’t recovered from the pandemic although tourism receipts still increased.* But why are the numbers so high?
As someone who worked for a short time in Ireland and actually likes this country, I still always wonder why they receive many tourists.
I can understand Ireland is attractive for particular personality of tourist, who wants to walk in the Western coast. But this seems like quite a minority interest.
From the tourist perspective, it’s culturally relatively boring and not very European compared to England.
Wild scenery of the West coast of Ireland is attractive, but Scotland has a lot more romantic and dramatical beauty. In terms of the architecture, England has a lot more beautiful cities and historically important or interesting aspects, especially cool architecture. Edinburgh in Scotland also.
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*The tourism rates In Ireland didn’t recover from the pandemic, but still are very high.

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But the tourism situation in more attractive and money value countries like Portugal has to go to a limit in some time, when they will be climbing beyond 30 million tourists.

You are one confused puppy making up absurd nonsense that an 8-year would be embarrassed by. It’s simply a reflection of your unbound hatred for Russians. It can’t be good for you, the upside-down sophomoric drivel about how the world was the opposite of what normal people think it was. Russia won WW2, Germany lost, Poland was liberated by Russia and wouldn’t exist today if it wasn’t for that liberation. Minutia that you dig up out of your b..tt is not an argument, it’s a sign of your autistic mind.
Your hatred of Russians has backfired spectacularly and you are getting much worse. Ukies are going down to defeat, it will get much worse for you.
Seems kind of fishy. I wonder if that is because of hotels being booked to house migrants, especially when you count the offseason.
I suspect a big part of it is the combination of English language and people seeking their roots. Both from America and the UK. And a good chunk of the UK people might be taking the ferry.
I think Austria has a bit higher ratio, but, then again, they have more neighbors. Andorra has some really crazy ratio, but probably can’t be compared in the same way.
Heard that LatW rented the Howard Hawks/John Wayne movie Red River, and demanded her money back!
Does an LSD microdose man qualify as transhuman?
I haven’t checked, but I would guess they increased prices of hotels since the pandemic.
Ireland invest a lot of money in the marketing for tourism, but then not for the infrastructure for tourism when the tourists arrive.
There is in Europe always a lot of advertising for visiting Ireland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcqv-DSfbTQ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEIV4AwyVY.
But there isn’t a lot of infrastructure to easily visit for tourists, interesting things which they advertise.*
It’s interesting American tourists in Europe are mainly from Democrat areas.
Democrat region Americans are generally more connected to Europe and visiting increasing millions every year in Europe. But Republican areas on average a lot less interested in Europe.
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*To explain one of reasons for lack of infrastructure. Even though Republic of Ireland was one of the poorest countries in Western Europe, their tax haven strategy artificially increased GDP so fast, they were not able to access EU convergence funds.
Countries like Portugal, Poland or Greece, have more shiny and modern German infrastructure than in Germany, even though German taxpayers pay for their infrastructure and German engineers build it.
As the convergence funding, it results that a lot of the modern infrastructure in Europe is constructed in the countries with the lowest GDP per capita.
Republic of Ireland still receives most of its funding as kind of “free money from Europe”, as it is tax haven, it receives the tax portion of the multinational companies which are working in Europe.
But this money goes to the Irish government generally, and is not directly forced on infrastructure by the EU, unlike for the countries like Poland which receive directly EU convergence funding and billions of Euros every year which has to be used to build the new infrastructure and invested in capital, modern technology etc.
Edit. Sorry this part of the comment could be incorrect.
“From 1973 up to 2018 Ireland was a net recipient, in nominal terms, of over €40 billion in EU funds. The country is now a net contributor due to its significant economic growth.”
https://ireland.representation.ec.europa.eu/strategy-and-priorities/eu-budget-ireland-european-commission_en
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But somehow Siemens has never built a metro in Dublin.
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But since 2018, now Ireland has to pay as a net contributor.

Consider famous economy equation GDP = C + I + G …The Poland and Romania highest net received do not actually benefit the “C” but goes to “G” (government spending) for military. I do not have to reveal against whom is that military hardware needed – to kill Russians. Then the free gas would abundantly flow to them. Quite clever, fortunately only metaphysical, idea from the low IQ EU elite.
You are projecting again, hateful one.
We know that midwit sincerely believes what his socialist teachers taught him.
Which of the facts that I presented were wrong?
– Soviets and Nazis were allies from 1939 until 1941 until Nazis, not Soviets, chose to break the alliance
– Soviets, led by a Georgian, persecuted Russian nationalists
– 125,000 Russians fought for the Nazis in Vlasov’s Russian Liberation Army. 10,000s other Russians fought in other German-led units.
– Stalin was cruel to Russians, killing millions of them
– Yet, most Russians venerate their former master Stalin
And Russia wouldn’t exist west of the Urals if a Poland hadn’t rejected the German offer of an alliance and hadn’t opted to fight Germany instead. Sounds like they are even.
It’s good when you make such predictions because that indicates that it probably will not happen. 🙂
Sadly, those Azov “heroes” on the picture are all dead in vain, this picture only remains for their families. They miscalculated the power and resolve of Russian heroes.
Cutting off funding for the victim of Russia’s invasion helps the invasion and supports the war. It is therefore a pro-war position.
Very funny, songbird. 🙂 (eye roll)
Way, way too late for this silly little Baltic chump to boycott American stuff! LOL I’d have to ask for more than just “my money” back (and I wouldn’t!).
Trump should’ve told us much earlier he was going to show the middle finger to Euros.
You see how life plays all kinds of tricks on us, songbird…
But life is long and life goes on.
Btw, MAGA is not all that American in all aspects (only in some).
Didn’t watch Red River, but watched many other similar ones, too many to count. I would recommend for you and your Japanese girlfriend to watch the marathon of Lonesome Dove series if you want to Americanize her and educate her about the cattle drives into the West and expose her to non-standard English accents. Such deeply valuable, visual education was kindly provided to me courtesy of my former (but still wonderful) Nordo-Celto heritage American hubby.
If she is as patient and curious as me, she can sit through the whole 6 hours of it in a couple of days.
Still not sure if I’ll watch the next Eggert.. am pretty peeved re: current geopolitical situation… might depend on the mood. Or maybe the geopolitical situation will improve and America will return to the bosom of the friendly transatlantic family.
I have already stated that it had elements of a war crime.
As do most military actions, whether or not they are actually war crimes.
The answer you got highlights the limits of AI:
This seems to only take into account the results, not the purpose. The result was 8 dead civilians, a damaged building, and no dead rebel leaders.
This fails to take into account the goal of killing the separatist leadership. As if the intent matched the result, of 8 killed civilians and no separatists but only to damage the building.
Sure, if Ukraine intended the results of 8 killed civilians, a damaged building, and no rebel leaders harmed then it would violate the principle of proportionality. 8 civilians are not “worth” a damaged building. But that was not the intent.
I can see why you love AI, neither of you seem to understand intent.
Warning of the attack would have prevented any chance of killing the rebel leadership.
The AI couldn’t synthesize information to draw a logical conclusion. It couldn’t use “common sense.”
The specific building was hit at the precise time when Bolotov claimed to be in it.
Either it was an amazing coincidence, like guessing the right lottery number, or the Ukrainians knew he was there but don’t publicly acknowledge knowing. Common sense suggests the latter.
Anyways, a better question is the one I asked:
Was it a war crime for Ukraine to attack the Luhansk regional administration building while rebel leaders including Valery Bolotov (per his statement) were in the building?
Grok’s conclusion:
The attack on the Luhansk RSA building, if conducted by Ukraine as an airstrike, may constitute a war crime if it was disproportionate or failed to take feasible precautions, given the civilian casualties and the building’s mixed use. However, without clear evidence of intent to target civilians or detailed strike planning, a definitive judgment is not possible. The OSCE’s attribution to an airstrike and the civilian deaths suggest a violation of IHL is plausible, but Ukraine’s denial and the rebel missile claim leave room for doubt. An independent investigation would be needed to establish responsibility and intent.
Full response under “more”:
Determining whether Ukraine’s attack on the Luhansk Regional State Administration building on June 2, 2014, constitutes a war crime requires analyzing the incident under international humanitarian law (IHL), particularly the Geneva Conventions and customary IHL. Below is a reasoned analysis based on available information, including the context of the attack, the status of the building, the presence of rebel leaders like Valery Bolotov, and the legal principles governing armed conflicts.
Context of the Attack
The attack occurred during the early stages of the War in Donbas, following Ukraine’s 2014 Revolution of Dignity and Russia’s annexation of Crimea. Pro-Russian separatists, including Valery Bolotov, who proclaimed himself the “People’s Governor” of the self-declared Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR), had seized key government buildings in Luhansk, including the Regional State Administration (RSA) building, by late April 2014. On June 2, 2014, an explosion at the RSA building killed 8–13 civilians and injured many others. The Ukrainian military was conducting operations to counter separatist control, including airstrikes in the Luhansk area, with over 150 reported that day.
Bolotov claimed the attack involved an S-8 rocket from an SU-25 fighter jet, based on shrapnel and rocket casing analysis, suggesting an airstrike. Ukraine denied responsibility, attributing the explosion to a misfired rebel surface-to-air missile. An OSCE report, based on limited observation, attributed the explosion to an airstrike. The building was under separatist control, housing both rebel leadership and civilian administrative functions.
Legal Framework: War Crimes under IHL
War crimes are serious violations of IHL committed during armed conflicts, as defined by the Geneva Conventions, Additional Protocols, and customary IHL. The conflict in Donbas is generally classified as a non-international armed conflict (NIAC) between Ukraine and separatist forces, with possible Russian involvement. Relevant IHL principles include:
Distinction: Parties must distinguish between combatants and civilians, targeting only military objectives (Article 48, Additional Protocol I; customary IHL Rule 1).
Proportionality: Attacks must not cause excessive civilian harm relative to the anticipated military advantage (customary IHL Rule 14).
Precaution: Parties must take feasible precautions to minimize civilian harm, including verifying targets and choosing appropriate means of attack (customary IHL Rule 15).
Civilian Objects: Civilian objects, such as administrative buildings, are protected unless used for military purposes, making them military objectives (Article 52, Additional Protocol I; customary IHL Rule 8).
War crimes in a NIAC include intentionally directing attacks against civilians or civilian objects, or launching disproportionate attacks (Rome Statute, Article 8(2)(e)).
Analysis of the Attack
To assess whether the attack was a war crime, we evaluate the target, intent, proportionality, and precautions:
1. Status of the Target
The RSA building was a civilian administrative structure but had been seized by separatists, including Bolotov, who used it as a base for their leadership and operations. Bolotov’s presence, as a key separatist leader, and the building’s role in separatist governance suggest it was being used for military purposes, potentially making it a military objective. However, civilian employees continued to work there, performing administrative functions, indicating a mixed civilian-military use.
Under IHL, a civilian object loses protection if it contributes effectively to military action and its destruction offers a definite military advantage. The presence of rebel leaders and the building’s use as a separatist headquarters likely met these criteria, but the continued civilian presence complicates the analysis.
2. Intent and Distinction
A war crime requires intent to target civilians or civilian objects. If Ukraine conducted an airstrike, the target was likely the separatist leadership, including Bolotov, who were legitimate military targets as combatants in the NIAC. There is no clear evidence that Ukraine intentionally targeted civilians. Ukraine’s denial of responsibility and claim of a rebel missile misfire suggest they did not acknowledge targeting the building. However, the OSCE’s attribution to an airstrike, combined with Bolotov’s shrapnel analysis, leans toward Ukrainian involvement.
If the attack was deliberate, the mixed use of the building raises questions about whether Ukraine adequately distinguished between military and civilian elements. The presence of civilians, including administrative workers, was likely known, given the building’s prior role and ongoing functions.
3. Proportionality
The attack killed 8–13 civilians and injured many others, a significant civilian toll. The military advantage of targeting Bolotov and other separatist leaders could be substantial, as their elimination might disrupt LPR operations. However, proportionality requires that civilian harm not be excessive relative to this advantage. The use of an airstrike in an urban area, potentially with an S-8 rocket, suggests a high risk of civilian casualties, especially in a building with known civilian presence.
Without precise details on the weapon’s yield or the strike’s planning, it’s difficult to definitively assess proportionality. However, the civilian deaths and injuries raise concerns that the attack may have been disproportionate, particularly if less destructive means (e.g., precision munitions or ground operations) were feasible.
4. Precautions
IHL requires feasible precautions to minimize civilian harm, such as verifying the target and choosing appropriate methods. The Ukrainian military was engaged in intense operations, including over 150 airstrikes that day, suggesting limited time for detailed target verification. The choice of an airstrike in a civilian area, if confirmed, indicates a potential failure to take adequate precautions, especially given the building’s mixed use and the risk to civilian workers.
5. Ukraine’s Denial and Alternative Explanation
Ukraine’s claim that a rebel missile caused the explosion complicates the analysis. If true, Ukraine would not be responsible, and the incident would not be a war crime attributable to them. However, the OSCE report and Bolotov’s evidence lean toward an airstrike, undermining Ukraine’s narrative. The lack of a transparent investigation by either side leaves the cause contested.
Was It a War Crime?
Based on available evidence, the attack’s classification as a war crime hinges on intent, proportionality, and precautions:
If Ukraine conducted an airstrike targeting separatist leaders, the building’s military use likely made it a legitimate target. However, the civilian deaths (8–13) and injuries suggest a potential violation of proportionality, especially if the strike was conducted without adequate precautions in an urban area with known civilian presence. A war crime could be argued if the attack was reckless or disproportionate, but intent to target civilians appears unlikely.
If the explosion was caused by a rebel missile, as Ukraine claims, no war crime by Ukraine would apply, though separatist actions could be scrutinized.
Lack of evidence on the strike’s planning, the weapon used, and the exact circumstances (e.g., whether Bolotov was confirmed present) prevents a definitive conclusion. The OSCE’s attribution to an airstrike and the civilian toll raise serious concerns, but intent and proportionality require further investigation.
Broader Context and Critical Perspective
The incident occurred in a chaotic early phase of the conflict, with both sides accused of IHL violations. Separatists, including Bolotov, engaged in illegal seizures of civilian infrastructure, endangering civilians by militarizing administrative buildings. Ukraine’s use of airstrikes in urban areas, as reported, risked civilian harm, reflecting the challenges of countering insurgencies in populated zones. Russia’s role in supporting separatists, including potential foreign fighters, further muddies the legal picture.
Critically, the lack of an independent investigation, combined with conflicting narratives, reflects a broader issue in the Donbas conflict: accountability is often obscured by propaganda and incomplete information. Both Ukraine and separatists have incentives to deflect blame, and the civilian toll underscores the need for impartial scrutiny.
Conclusion
The attack on the Luhansk RSA building, if conducted by Ukraine as an airstrike, may constitute a war crime if it was disproportionate or failed to take feasible precautions, given the civilian casualties and the building’s mixed use. However, without clear evidence of intent to target civilians or detailed strike planning, a definitive judgment is not possible. The OSCE’s attribution to an airstrike and the civilian deaths suggest a violation of IHL is plausible, but Ukraine’s denial and the rebel missile claim leave room for doubt. An independent investigation would be needed to establish responsibility and intent.
I caught this too late to add it to my comment.
You are trying to be tricky.
He claimed that not only he, but that other rebel leaders were in the building at the time. According to Bolotov, this was not an attack on only one person but the leadership. A decapitation strike against the leadership of the rebellion.
I ran this question and got this response:
Dear Grok, Valery Bolotov claimed that he and other rebel leaders were in the Lugansk regional admin building that was attacked from the air in June 2014. Does this attack have the elements of a war crime?
Conclusion:
Conclusion
The air attack on the Luhansk Regional Administration building on June 2, 2014, has elements that could suggest a war crime, particularly due to:
The use of imprecise, non-guided rockets in a civilian-populated area, potentially violating the principle of distinction.
The significant civilian casualties (at least eight deaths), raising concerns about proportionality and inadequate precautions.
The possibility of an indiscriminate attack, given the reported scale of bombardment and damage to civilian areas.
However, the presence of Bolotov and other rebel leaders, as he claimed, could render the building a legitimate military target, provided the attack complied with IHL principles. Without detailed evidence on Ukrainian forces’ intent, intelligence, and precautions, it’s challenging to definitively classify the attack as a war crime. The incident’s characterization as a war crime would likely hinge on whether the civilian harm was excessive relative to the military advantage and whether feasible precautions were neglected.
For a formal determination, an investigation by an international body like the International Criminal Court would be needed, examining classified military data, witness testimonies, and forensic evidence. The attack’s portrayal as a “terrible tragedy” and violation of IHL by some sources underscores its contentious nature, but legal accountability remains unresolved.
In an interview with Tucker Carlson, former high US government official in the Bush administration, Catherine Austin Fitts, is alleging that they are intending a nightmare scenario of marrying AI with digital currency so as to to design a hyper-individualized control for every person on Earth, to create what she calls a digital concentration camp for the future global citizen.
She also believes that as the elites and hangers on of the United States are intending a global mass extinction event, ie a possible global nuclear conflagration (to ideally reduce the global population to 500 million?), and that using trillions of stolen black budget funds they have constructed dozens of extensive underground bases in North America for themselves and friends to weather the impending WWIII storm.
It’s a bit remindful of the disturbing 1993 movie Point of no Return which also involved black budgets and underground bases.
And of the 1936 movie Things to Come, where after the peoples of the world have largely destroyed themselves in a global war, a new global elite emerges to take over and unify the world.
The High Status Lett Chad, with a Nubian Bride mogs the Betta Nerd, with the Japanese Cope girlfriend every time.
The hierarchy of man.
I’ve been writing about it for the last two years or so on this forum. CBDC + AI indeed allows to control each human being as a socioeconomic unit. And yes, I believe it is coming in this very decade.
Yes, and all we need from it is to teach us to become better people. If we are patient and open minded enough it will.
I have a hard time believing that this is real:
I do hope it is.
Chelyabinsk represent! From your lived experience is this Hollywood presentation realistic?
On a more serious note, I recently read this.
Some of us still dream!
That is funny. I didn’t know he had been married.
He did an interview with Keith Woods somewhat before he died. But I couldn’t watch it because I found the way he spoke to be psychologically upsetting. (He sounded to me very unstable and crazy and on drugs.)
It is the only time I felt that way, when someone wasn’t gay or a tranny.
There’s no reason for you to grieve for the original Azov battalion members that laid down their lives for a free and independent Ukraine. 8 more brand new Azov battalions are being created right now to add additional pressure to the ever weakened Russian military units within Ukraine:
Camp Azov is back!Ukraine has formed 8 new Azov battalions, claiming to have unprecedented combat effectiveness
2025-05-01 19:05
A new photo too:
https://i.min.news/e.png?url=https://dingyue.ws.126.net/2022/0608/a509f8c4j00rd5pc800pfc001z401bfm.jpg&ref=https://min.news/en/military/43d1915d5dde4be937dcbba9392864fa.html
https://min.news/en/military/43d1915d5dde4be937dcbba9392864fa.html
Some of it must be inflation. The lower availability of rooms may have driven prices higher. Still, it is hard to understand. I am inclined to think a part of it is artificial even if they don’t count bookings by the government. Some tourist spots seem swamped in migrants.
I think you’d be surprised to learn how many American men don’t want to get on a plane and view a vacation as a waste of money, and would rather be working. I think the car dominates thinking for many people.
And (naturally!) it will be sold as being ‘for your own good’, just as wage slavery (ie the so called ‘cheap labor’/’mass immigration’ system was sold as being ‘for everyone’s own good’…not.
They claim it is jet powered but I don’t see any apertures for air flow and the jet blast seems low since a small aperture implies high velocity air.
I think it is actually powered by an anti-gravity drive and the jet idea is just a cover story.
Or maybe they use one of those low blast engines as used on the Apollo landers.
🙂
You should definitely take your own advice.
Will your people defend the Druze in Syria from the Moderate Soros force’s?
In 2015, Ramaswamy raised $360 million for the Roivant subsidiary Axovant Sciences in an attempt to market intepirdine as a drug for Alzheimer’s disease. In December 2014, Axovant purchased the patent for intepirdine from GlaxoSmithKline (where the drug had failed four previous clinical trials) for $5 million, a small sum in the industry. Ramaswamy appeared on the cover of Forbes in 2015, and said his company would “be the highest return on investment endeavor ever taken up in the pharmaceutical industry.”
Before new clinical trials began, he engineered Axovant’s initial public offering (IPO); it became a “Wall Street darling” and raised $315 million. The company’s market value initially soared to almost $3 billion, although at the time it only had eight employees, including Ramaswamy’s brother and mother.
Ramaswamy took a massive payout after selling a portion of his shares in Roivant to Viking Global Investors. He claimed more than $37 million in capital gains in 2015. Ramaswamy said his company would be the “Berkshire Hathaway of drug development” and touted the drug as a “tremendous” opportunity that “could help millions”.
FOR THE GLORY
Exactly, how do AP’s ideas on nationalism differ from Putin’s?
https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/1917888799830368475
This is on the timeline after Elon Musk’s tunnel-pop-goes-the-weasel army divisions in the Ukraine so I’m gonna say P~.0000001. For now. Maybe he can raise a trillion dollars from the Silicon Valley financiers and the American taxpayers.
James Bond had this in the 1960’s except it was a backpack and it didn’t work.
It does not.
We don’t even have self driving cars. Get a grip.
Did you read the Malmgren analysis of Putin from January 2022? It is not one-of-a-kind but he claimed he knew Putin (and Putin answers his phone calls and e-mails) since early in this millennium, since he was an assistant to the mayor of Petersburg.
First you spend several days claiming that I tricked Grok by not including something in my question and then, when I do include it and obtain the same answer, you claim that AI lacks common sense LOL.
A circus contortionist forced to make such awkward gyrations would resign immediately. But the fact remains that AI, with all its limitations, has rendered this never-ending, senseless debates obsolete. Whether you realize or not, you’re basically out of your second job as a forum debater because now each time you’re wrong anyone can force you to contradict yourself and use ridiculous arguments with a 2-minute effort. I could have presented Grok’s answers as my own but I am not as dishonest as the Kiev rulers.
Let’s make you contort some more with the following question to Grok, whose impeccable answer, much better than anything I could ever come up with, made me laugh because it really makes pulp of all the flimsy arguments you’ve been clinging on to for years:
A person is trying to convince me that the June 2, 2014 air attack on the Lugansk admin building was definitely not a war crime because Bolotov claimed after the fact that he was there with some other rebels. Therefore, he argues, it is certain that the Ukrainians knew of his presence because otherwise they wouldn’t have attacked that building. That would be too much of a coincidence, he says. Furthermore, he claims that the presence of Bolotov in the building renders the attack legitimate, regardless of the methods used and the presence of many civilians. Do these arguments prove that the attack was not a war crime?
Here is a summary of the answer, with logical debunking of each of your specific claims under More (note the inclusion of legal precedents like Gotovina):
Conclusion
The arguments do not prove the June 2, 2014, Luhansk airstrike was not a war crime. Bolotov’s claimed presence does not confirm Ukraine had specific intelligence about him, and even if it did, his presence alone does not legitimize an attack that violated IHL principles. The use of unguided munitions in a civilian area, resulting in at least eight civilian deaths and excessive harm, suggests failures in distinction, proportionality, and precaution—key elements of a potential war crime. While the building’s status as a separatist headquarters made it a plausible military target, IHL required Ukraine to minimize civilian harm, which evidence indicates they did not do.
Advice for Responding
If you’re engaging with this person, you could counter by:
Asking for evidence that Ukraine had real-time intelligence about Bolotov’s presence, not just his post-attack claim.
Pointing out that IHL requires minimizing civilian harm, even when targeting legitimate military objectives, and the civilian deaths suggest this was not done.
Noting that unguided rockets in a populated area at 3:00 PM show a lack of precaution, undermining the attack’s legality.
Suggesting that without a full investigation, claiming the attack was definitely not a war crime is speculative and ignores documented civilian harm.
The arguments presented—that Valery Bolotov’s claimed presence in the Luhansk Regional Administration building on June 2, 2014, proves the Ukrainian forces knew he was there, and that his presence alone legitimizes the attack regardless of methods or civilian casualties—do not definitively prove the attack was not a war crime. Below, I evaluate these claims under international humanitarian law (IHL) and address their logical and legal flaws.
Legal Framework Recap
War crimes in a non-international armed conflict (like the War in Donbas) include violations of IHL principles:
Distinction: Attacks must target military objectives, not civilians or civilian objects.
Proportionality: Civilian harm must not be excessive compared to the anticipated military advantage.
Precaution: Attackers must take feasible measures to minimize civilian harm (e.g., verify targets, use precise weapons, issue warnings).
Evaluation of the Arguments
1. Claim: Bolotov’s Presence Proves Ukraine Knew He Was There, Making the Attack Targeted and Legitimate
Logical Flaw: Bolotov’s claim of being in the building was made after the attack, as you noted. There’s no evidence Ukraine had real-time intelligence confirming his presence at the moment of the strike. Assuming they knew he was there because he later said so is speculative and relies on hindsight. The argument that it’s “too much of a coincidence” for Ukraine to strike the building without knowing Bolotov was present is not supported by facts. The building was a known separatist headquarters since April 2014, making it a plausible target regardless of Bolotov’s specific presence.
Legal Issue: Even if Ukraine suspected Bolotov was there, IHL requires verifying the target and assessing civilian risks. Targeting a high-value individual like Bolotov (a separatist leader and thus a legitimate military target) does not automatically justify an attack. The attacker must ensure the attack complies with distinction, proportionality, and precaution. There’s no evidence Ukraine confirmed Bolotov’s presence or took steps to minimize civilian harm, such as using precision-guided munitions or issuing warnings.
Counterpoint: The Ukrainian military’s initial claim of an “air conditioner explosion” (later debunked) suggests they were not transparent about the attack’s intent. This undermines the idea that they had precise intelligence about Bolotov and acted on it deliberately.
2. Claim: Bolotov’s Presence Renders the Attack Legitimate, Regardless of Methods or Civilian Presence
Legal Flaw: The presence of a military target (Bolotov or other rebels) does not give a blank check to disregard IHL principles. While the building, as a separatist headquarters, could be a legitimate military objective, IHL imposes strict conditions on how an attack is conducted:
Distinction: The attack killed at least eight civilians (e.g., Inna Kukurudza, a non-combatant worker) and injured many others, primarily outside the building in a park. Unguided rockets or 30mm cannon fire (per OSCE and Human Rights Investigations reports) struck civilian areas, suggesting a failure to distinguish between military and civilian targets.
Proportionality: The civilian toll (eight deaths, numerous injuries) appears excessive compared to the military advantage, especially since no separatist casualties were confirmed. Even if Bolotov’s death was the goal, the anticipated military gain must be weighed against civilian harm. The high civilian cost, with no evidence of significant separatist losses, suggests a disproportionate attack.
Precaution: Using unguided munitions in a populated civilian area at 3:00 PM, when civilians were likely present, indicates a lack of precautions. IHL requires attackers to choose weapons and methods that minimize civilian harm and to verify the absence of civilians. No warnings were issued, and the choice of imprecise weapons increased civilian risk.
Separatist Responsibility: The LPR’s use of a civilian building as a headquarters may have contributed to the risk, potentially violating IHL by failing to separate military activities from civilians. However, this does not absolve Ukraine of its obligations to adhere to distinction, proportionality, and precaution. Both sides have responsibilities under IHL, and Ukraine, as the attacking party, bears the primary burden to avoid civilian harm.
Legal Precedent: IHL case law (e.g., ICTY rulings) emphasizes that targeting a military objective does not justify indiscriminate or disproportionate attacks. For example, in the Gotovina case, the ICTY found that attacks causing excessive civilian harm in populated areas could constitute war crimes, even if aimed at military targets.
3. Why These Arguments Don’t Prove the Attack Was Not a War Crime
Speculative Basis: The claim that Ukraine definitively knew Bolotov was present is unproven and relies on post-attack statements, not evidence of real-time intelligence. Without proof of Ukraine’s intent and target verification, the argument is weak.
Ignoring IHL Obligations: Bolotov’s presence, even if confirmed, does not override the need to comply with distinction, proportionality, and precaution. The attack’s execution—using unguided munitions in a civilian area, killing non-combatants, and causing excessive harm—raises serious IHL violations, regardless of the target’s legitimacy.
Civilian Harm: The documented civilian deaths and injuries, supported by video evidence, OSCE reports, and crater analysis, indicate the attack failed to spare civilians, a core IHL requirement. The argument dismisses these casualties as irrelevant, which contradicts IHL’s emphasis on protecting non-combatants.
Lack of Investigation: A definitive determination of a war crime requires a thorough investigation, including Ukraine’s intent, intelligence, and decision-making. The absence of such an inquiry (e.g., by the ICC) and Ukraine’s misleading initial narrative suggest accountability gaps, not proof of legality.
Conclusion
The arguments do not prove the June 2, 2014, Luhansk airstrike was not a war crime. Bolotov’s claimed presence does not confirm Ukraine had specific intelligence about him, and even if it did, his presence alone does not legitimize an attack that violated IHL principles. The use of unguided munitions in a civilian area, resulting in at least eight civilian deaths and excessive harm, suggests failures in distinction, proportionality, and precaution—key elements of a potential war crime. While the building’s status as a separatist headquarters made it a plausible military target, IHL required Ukraine to minimize civilian harm, which evidence indicates they did not do.
Advice for Responding
If you’re engaging with this person, you could counter by:
Asking for evidence that Ukraine had real-time intelligence about Bolotov’s presence, not just his post-attack claim.
Pointing out that IHL requires minimizing civilian harm, even when targeting legitimate military objectives, and the civilian deaths suggest this was not done.
Noting that unguided rockets in a populated area at 3:00 PM show a lack of precaution, undermining the attack’s legality.
Suggesting that without a full investigation, claiming the attack was definitely not a war crime is speculative and ignores documented civilian harm.
Sources
Human Rights Investigations, “Lugansk war crime” (June 5, 2014)
OSCE Special Monitoring Mission, observations on the attack (June 2014)
CNN, “Air Attack on Pro-Russian Separatists Kills 8” (June 3, 2014)
International Court of Justice, Russian Federation Rejoinder, Annex 42 (March 10, 2023)
IHL principles from Geneva Conventions and customary law
If you need help crafting a specific response or digging deeper into any aspect, let me know!
Mr. Hack, why are you keep peddling your pro-Ukrainian wishful thinking (i.e. crap)? The evidence of Ukrainian battalions success is exhibited on the battlefield…how many Ukrainian battalions perished in Kursk? Have you missed Trump warning to little greenman “…make a deal because you will lose the whole country…”. Quote from Trump is much more believable than your dishonest trashy propaganda sources.
https://me.gov.ua/News/Detail/91af98f8-9ae6-49ba-99ae-adb847fe493a?lang=en-GB&title=UkraineAndTheUnitedStatesSignEconomicPartnershipAgreementAndEstablishTheReconstructionInvestmentFund
Maybe the CIA can recruit the Azov brigade guys for a new covert action unit. Lots of cocaine and hookers on the Nigerian Riveria.
I tend to practice what I preach.
I would have thought it’s computer generated graphics. But it’s supposedly real.
This part doesn’t seem to have aged well:
https://unherd.com/2022/01/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-putin/
And I honestly find it bizarre that he wrote it. Maybe, I am not such a good historian, but I always thought it was usually a change in administration which created the opportunity for some kind of deal, like Reagan replacing Carter during the Iran hostage crisis.
Malmgren may be stuck in a nonpartisan, careerist mode, if he thought a single administration could be more dynamic.
Malmgren believed until his dying breath (which might even be recorded) that Henry Kissinger was a brilliant diplomat. The apex of his life was him and Kman guests of the Russians at the Bolshoi Ballet in the czar box and the Russians gave him the czar chair and not Henry.
If you believe a drooling 90 year old man in his death chair on twenty medications.
Thank you for illustrating the issue of bias in model training. Of the 4 cited sources, 3 are known to be problematic — OSCE, CNN, and ICJ. Whether deliberate or incidental, the model is loaded with alarmist principles and is thus producing results that are less than evenhanded.
In one of your prior examples, AI tried to portray the ICC as a legitimate body. All of the major players know it is corrupt. Russia, China, America, and Israel openly refuse to join.
Here is another problem with the AI. It misinterpreted the question.
The burden of proof is on those (in this case you) trying to prove it WAS a war crime. By reversing logic structure, the AI created an unreasonable request. No country would expose sources and methods by publicizing real time intelligence.
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This also shows the weakness in trying to use a general purpose LLM for a very specific legal purpose.
Both sides concur:
• The attacker says it was targeting combatants there.
• The targeted combatant who escaped stated he was there.
In a legal sense, this would not even be a trial point. It would be taken as fact by the court.
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You know I disagree with AP on the fundamentals. The attack was foolish, provocative, and was one element leading to Russia’s defensive SMO. However:
=== If Everything is a War Crime. Nothing is a War Crime. ===
Trying to over hype this questionable incident is not productive. The AI is going to call almost any attack resulting in civilian casualties a possible war crime. Yet, in reality, few or none of them will actually be one.
If you want to be smart, now would be a good time to walk away. I’ve done it too. When was the last time I tried to push for a specific legal interpretation about cutting off Crimea’s fresh water supply? I am willing to settle for having it restored as part of a peace deal.
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In another proof that AI is revolutionizing the world before our eyes, Grok has managed to produce a much more coherent reply from A123 than from AP!
But we’re still talking about Islamo-A123 so his answer is still full of logical flaws 🙁
Whether the ICC is a “legitimate” body or not is utterly irrelevant. We know why you would not consider it legitimate but there’s no reason why an LLM would follow your pro-Israel bias. It would defeat the purpose of its existence. And it has nothing to do with applying what is written in the Geneva Conventions to some specific case, which is all the LLM is doing.
That’s like saying that if I claim that the Holocaust was a crime against humanity and you deny it, the burden proof lies on me and your claim is right until I manage to convince you. Total nonsense. We are not handing out verdicts here, we are discussing past events and making moral judgements. Grok simply assessed AP’s arguments and found them tremendously lacking, as seen in its devastating point by point response.
Wrong. The attacker never admitted his involvement and dishonestly blamed the rebels for the attack (setting a precedent that survived until the SMO, with Ukraine regularly accusing the Russians of bombing themselves and your beloved MSM playing along with that nonsense).
On the contrary, you couldn’t both agree more. You both share the firm believe that killing innocent civilians is right if done for the right ethnic cause.
Again, the opposite of the truth. The vast majority of what appear to be war crimes are indeed war crimes but only a few of them get to be judged because the ICC is a highly politicized body. Why will the Lugansk massacre never be judged by the ICC while the ICC does investigate, as it should, the Russian attacks? But Grok correctly states time and again that it can establish no firm conclusion without a proper investigation.
Clint Eastwood’s son vs. Robert De Niro’s:
https://twitter.com/saras76/status/1917919931418771786
Once again, I am calling for a big longitudinal study of actors’ families.
Trump has gotten his recent Ukrainian mineral deal. All future military procurements from the US to Ukraine will be paid from a mutually shared fund. Looks like Trump now has skin in the Ukrainian game.
IMO, it is probably easier to integrate Vietnam into the Chinese economy than some of the interior provinces of China, due to the long coastline and narrow width of the country.
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Thaneder also has ties to pharma:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/did-india-born-democrat-rep-shri-thanedar-abandon-over-100-dogs-monkeys-at-his-closed-pharma-testing-lab/articleshow/120788383.cms
Is that tranny shit? I’m not clicking on any tranny shit.
So far in Iraq they have London New York money management and Iranian security if you want to look at an analog. The Plan is London and New York make money and Russians are stuck with covering the security situation is what it looks like to me.
As long as head hoodlum gets paid they will call it a win. You don’t want to know what it looks like when head hoodlum doesn’t get paid.
Sigh. Must you twist everything into hostility?
If you will not listen to reason…. Please continue to bicker endlessly with AP. You gain nothing by that choice, but your time is yours to waste.
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De Niro’s father was a homo.
The twin (fraternal?) of the tranny played a young Barack Obama on HBO. Both were born via surrogacy.
De Niro has had six children with four women, not counting adopted. (If my tally is correct.). Three of the women were black, with the final being Chinese. It is unclear to me how many, if any, were conceived naturally. But at least three were born via surrogacy.
…then proceeds to quote something which is completetely devoid of word “strafing”;)
However not have any to problems to assume in theory that not only specific rocket was fired into the building, but simulteanously 30mm ordnance as well might have been used in order to make potential impact more effective. This doesn’t change the fact that it all mainly missed and directly impacted just some horizontal center spot in that square, which was empty at the time of impact and the farther damage was done from blast wave and subsequent shrapnels which flied away from that initial cited crater. If the supposed likely primary intended target was vertical frontwall of the building (not some specific window ofc) then many windows and subsequently rooms subsequently would be affected by strong blast wave with shrapnels, therefore likely injuries to the potential gathered rebels there.
So you would be the first one to accuse that poor hiker in US whod had to cut away his arm with pocketknife in ordet to gain some slim chance of saving the rest of the body?;)
…but guess silence ensuing there, except if that hiker happened to be immigrant from former SU, then barbarism accusations would become very vocal instantly lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston
The war is about NATO expansion and Trump think he can enter Ukraine thru the back door. He is crossing Russian red line. Russians are now crossing the Dnieper river on the way to Odessa (wish them success), who will stop them? American foot soldiers? No, Trump is bragging/lying about being no-war president. His erratic decisions and inability to subdue the Kiev green pest is his path to nuclear conflict. Make a deep bunker with 3 years supplies.
Trump tariff idiocy elected Liberals in Canada.
Ralston is an extremely courageous individual and a devout christian who reportedly never even swore during his horrible ordeal at Bluejohn Canyon. No idea what prompts your twisted imagination to associate him with savages that consciously kill innocent civilians.
Thanks for all that information but I’ll continue to trust Grok’s sources (particularly the OSCE team that investigated the attack in situ) over a run-of-the-mill Baltic russophobe’s speculations.
Not sure what you’re talking about. After calling me a liar, a reprobate and some worse things that I preferred to forget, I kept my reply to you considerably civil and actually commended your attempt to engage the substantive points in Grok’s answer, in contrast to AP’s pure hand waiving. But you do use your time here to openly support criminal actions by the Israelis and the Russians (and now the Ukrainians too) so expect a very hostile position from me against those ideas.
Let me Fix That For You:
Trump tariff *5-D Chess* helped the ultra-left Liberals to a pyrrhic win in Canada.
The alternative was a far-left corporatist, Romney/McCain establishment critter in Poilievre. The Fake Stream Media would have mis-portrayed the moribund creature as credible, thus muddying the narrative.
Carney exists for the greater glory of IslamoGloboHomo. Positioning Judeo-Christian MAGA against that threat is straightforward.
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This new US-Ukraine arrangement brings us one step closer to clarity on Trump. The deal will be used to justify the not-NATO NATO peacekeeping force in Ukraine unless Russia begins hammering them immediately before they reach a certain critical mass (pun intended); in other words Russia makes NATO regret the idea before they are too deeply and publicly ensconced in Ukraine to walk away. Once NATO is semi-formally in Ukraine this a frozen conflict ready to escalate to WW3 at any time. If that is what is described as “being against war”, then Orange Man Good.
As this next act begins to play out it may tell us a lot about Putin as well. Destroying these quasi-NATO forces as soon as they come into Ukraine may be Russia’s last chance to safely play brinksmanship without putting their own population at grave risk. If these forces are allowed to assemble it is a sign that Russia is bowing its head and submitting to whoever it is that runs the world.
I am still waiting for Mossad creeps and IAF goons to begin playing their public role, “helping” the Ukies.
BTW, can JD make Ukraine into the 51st US state? Call it USkraine. Slava USKraini!
You deliberately started this conflict.
You supported the obviously inferior candidate DeSantis. When your precious establishment DeSantis was easily defeated, you could have built bridges to MAGA. Instead you burned them.
As a #NeverMAGA cultist you lie about MAGA, Trump, and myself.
As a #NeverMAGA cultist you insult MAGA, Trump, and myself.
Now as an exposed Harris voter & operative — You are attempting to blame me for your lengthy and egregious loathing of U.S. workers? No one is going to buy into your TDS rage.
Everyone sees that all you have is hatred for Christian America. Have you considered moving to Iran? They would love your “Islam First” & “Death to America” extremism.
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Even when the discussions turn towards the insane Grok also provides perfect answers:
Before the early 20th century, the word “tan” had no relationship to the sun or human skin. I want to go back to that time.
Am not kidding when I say that I think it is used in more recently published stuff to signal antiracism. (If a softer version.)
Thank you for admitting that your divine leader, George IslamoSoros, is both real and and dangerous clown.
Your support for my accuracy is appreciated.
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Before the premiere of Johnny Quest in 1964, was there a single important Indian (dot) character in American culture? (I.e. beyond stuff set in India or the Raj?)
I want to go back to that time. (I.e. before JQ)
This guy was big on local Los Angeles TV in the 1950’s.
https://homegrown.co.in/homegrown-creators/the-mysterious-korla-pandit-an-exotic-indian-pianist-who-wasnt-indian-at-all
It may be just because I am a loon, but I see a certain logic in A123’s sobriquet “George IslamoSoros.”
That is, that Soros is for open borders. Islam is a potential uniting force for migrants of different ethnicities. For historical reasons, some may perceive it as a substantial threat to Western Civ and so somewhat by the numbers and by default, one could, in a very abstract way, say that Soros has an Islamic affiliation.
The weakness of the analogy for me is that Soros doesn’t have any Islamic children or grandchildren (at least, as far as I know.). His son Alex was tied to Huma, but she is bound to be barren by now.
I think this one may be might be where Bashibuzuk got his first Buddhism brainwashing.
That is pretty funny. I would liked to see his admixture results and Kamala’s too, in order to compare them.
Yes. George IslamoSoros is for open borders. Especially in Europe where he is driving flows of Muslims to replace Judeo-Christians.
Some??? Try everyone.
Muslim migrants, regardless of ethnicity, are a clear and present danger to Judeo-Christian civilization.
The phase you need is “openly admits” not “does not have”.
Muhammad commands Muslims, like The IslamoSoros, to lie for the Greater Glory of Satan/Allah.
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Except you didn’t. You cleverly omitted that fact that he also stated that other leaders were there, not just he. And not merely rebels (as in your other question, crafted to produce the response you wanted). Your contortions are in your questions.
So again you got an incorrect answer, based on incomplete input.
I provided the appropriate question and answer, and you ignored it.
Instead, predictably, you asked another flawed question.
When I asked Grok if it was a coincidence, it said there was a moderate chance of that.
Question:
How likely is it that it was a coincidence that Ukraine struck the Luhansk administration building in June 2014 when (as he stated) Bolotov and other rebel leaders were present in the building at the time of the attack?
Conclusion:
### Conclusion
The strike on the Luhansk RSA building on June 2, 2014, was likely a Ukrainian airstrike targeting a key separatist stronghold during a broader operation, with a moderate chance it coincidentally occurred when Bolotov and others were present. The building’s strategic importance and the chaotic context of the border base siege make it a plausible target regardless of specific individuals. However, Ukraine’s motive to disrupt LPR leadership and the timing post-referendum suggest intentional targeting cannot be ruled out, though it would have required unlikely precision and intelligence. The truth likely lies in a mix of strategic intent and battlefield imprecision, with coincidence being a reasonable but not definitive explanation.
You like to equate Ukraine with Russia, Poroshenko with Putin.
I asked Grok about your beliefs.
They are devastating to your claims.
Question:
Was the Ukrainian attack on the Luhansk administration building in June 2014, when rebel leader Bolotov claimed he and others leaders were in the building, comparable to Russian attacks on Ukrainian targets such as in Sumy or Kyiv?
Conclusion:
The Ukrainian attack on the Luhansk RSA in June 2014 is only partially comparable to Russian attacks on Sumy and Kyiv. Similarities include the use of imprecise weapons, civilian casualties, and potential IHL violations (proportionality, precautions). Both targeted sites with military significance (RSA as LPR hub; Kyiv/Sumy military or infrastructure targets). However, differences are stark:
– Scale and Intent: Ukraine’s single strike caused 8 civilian deaths, possibly reckless but not systematically targeting civilians. Russia’s attacks, causing thousands of civilian deaths, often deliberately or indiscriminately hit civilian areas, suggesting intent to destabilize.
–Context: Ukraine’s strike was a defensive act in a civil conflict; Russia’s are aggressive, part of an invasion.
– Legal Severity: Ukraine’s attack raises war crime concerns but lacks evidence of intentional civilian targeting. Russia’s strikes are widely documented as war crimes, with ICC and UN investigations confirming systematic violations.
– Weaponry: Ukraine’s 2014 lack of precision limited options; Russia’s use of both precise and imprecise weapons amplifies indiscriminate harm.
Thus, while both incidents involve civilian harm and IHL issues, Russia’s attacks on Sumy and Kyiv are far broader, more systematic, and more egregious, making them less comparable to Ukraine’s localized Luhansk strike. If you need specific examples (e.g., a particular Russian strike) or deeper legal analysis, let me know!
Question:
Is Poroshenko comparable to Putin in terms of being a war criminal?
equating Poroshenko to Putin as a war criminal stretches credibility. Putin’s actions involve initiating and escalating a war with catastrophic humanitarian consequences, while Poroshenko’s involve managing a defensive conflict with no proven intent to commit atrocities
Conclusion:
### Conclusion
Petro Poroshenko is not comparable to Vladimir Putin in terms of being a war criminal. Putin faces credible, internationally recognized charges for specific war crimes, backed by extensive evidence of Russia’s actions in Ukraine. Poroshenko’s allegations are either unverified, politically motivated, or tied to the broader Donbas conflict without evidence of his direct responsibility for war crimes. While neither is likely to face immediate justice—Putin due to Russia’s ICC non-membership, Poroshenko due to lack of international charges—the evidence against Putin is far more substantial and globally acknowledged. Any comparison risks conflating defensive wartime leadership with aggressive war crimes, a distinction critical to understanding the Ukraine conflict.
aren’t there many prominent Israelis who want to send the Palestinians packing to Europe?
In core Far East (China, Korea, Japan), it seems like it is more of àn inconvenience (Xinjiang, a few Kurds in Japan) than a civilizational threat, barring a significant change in circumstances or policy.
I’ll grant India, though personally I think caste is probably a bigger problem.
he’s pretty old. If he wanted them to be his heirs, he would have openly acknowledged them by now.
Unless he really trusts his lawyers, and used biotech and the internet to sire 10,000 babies on Muslim women. It is possible. I mean think of Musk, and then imagine if he went fishing for babymamas where incomes were a lot lower, like the Sahel. Soros could literally have an army of Muslim heirs ready to declare jihad on Judeo-Christians. Each one trained to be a whirling dervish and mobilize the masses.
ROFLMFAO!!!!! Possibly the worst example so far of your bimbo-retard self inventing the most ridiculous instantaneous BS possible.
Those body exchanges have NOTHING to do with recent territorial changes you amusingly dumb lying spastic. So what happened here is Beckow wrote something that, as ever, you have absolutely zero information on so decided to look at the next piece of nonsense on Twitter and plagiarised it and added some further BS that made you look even more out of your depth to talk about these issues
As an example , those body exchanges …..not the 950 to 45 (!!!) one but the previous 757 to 48 exchange included the bodies of dead 60+ ukronazis who were shot down together with our crew and any official coordinating that exchange, by one of their ground missiles , over Belgorod on way to a POW exchange ( so the usual ukronazis combination of unacceptable incompetence and or evil) in 2023/24 you thick POS.
I would say none of these 3800 to 210 exchanges of bodies since this year and end of last contain anybody who died in the last 8 months.
These body exchanges don’t even have anything to do with Kursk (LMAO) you idiot – so we can have a few tens of thousands of ukrop fertiliser bags to have to deliver later . If you werent such a bimbo lying retard , or knew something about Ukraine, then you would know that these exchanges follow the similar pattern of the POW swaps ( where Russia also as a huge advantage in prisoners captured) – all of them involving prisoners captured much earlier, as any idiot would expect these people to be prioritised
Its further amusing that a lying POS as yourself is trying to instantaneously BS “Static frontline” and ” Russian gains with thousands of dead ukronazi bodies everywhere” at the same time. Shameless dipshit.
The other amusing thing is that giving 950 fertiliser bags to Ukraine costs them $400M, sorry costs western taxpayers 400M USD. So military annihilation is main reason for the catastophic ratio, the other is the most corrupt country on the planet wanting to use their $400M for their own pleasures.
Its not 11th century warfare bimbo imbecile. Its not tens of thousands on opposing sides fighting in one field, all relatively close to eachother . Its plenty of open-field combat, often at a significant distance at first, and alot of Urban combat. Urban battles in particular, only until very end have ukronazis been unable to secure exit route for dead bodies/wounded. There can be no main reason other than being annihilated you dickhead for these embarrassing casualty ratios
You are that much of a thick POS – in claiming the lie that these are the dead left behind in heroic Russian gains in the last few months – 3600…….you would then have to add those dead that aren’t left behind, or those who die in hospital from their wounds, to those who can’t be identified and so aren’t part of the exchange….in your lying retard BS, effectively your bimbo delinquent self is saying that at least 300 ukronazis are dying each day. Of course its nowhere close to that, well over 4 times more than that………….but at least your retard self is indicating that 90000 Ukronazis are dying for the year. Now all you have to do is add another zero to that number and your lying tramp self for the first time ever would be approaching the truth.
The scumbag fantasist invents another piece of comedy !!!!( I see another piece of amusing retard BS on Russian/ukrop language earlier in the thread, LOL) . Why not just say these phantom nephews flew Ukraines first mission to the moon already? Stupid idiot
Did Grok debunk my claims about the number of civilians killed by Ukrainian forces 2014-2015?
Based on the UN figures for 2016(?)-2021, in which 80% of deaths were attributed to Kiev, I had assumed a similar ratio for the period of the hotttest war in 2014-2015 and therefore that Kiev killed around 2500 civilians.
Grok disagrees and claims the rebels killed more civilians than Ukraine’s government did. It was around 60% rebels, 40% Kiev not including the victims on the airplane.
Question:
Based on available sources, how many civilians were killed by Kyiv’s forces during the Donbas war in 2014-2015 versus were killed by separatist and Russian forces in those years?
Conclusion:
Based on available sources, Ukrainian forces likely caused 200–400 civilian deaths in Donbas in 2014–2015, primarily through airstrikes and shelling, with incidents like the Luhansk airstrike as key examples. Separatist and Russian forces likely caused 500–700 civilian deaths, driven by the MH17 shootdown, Buhas rocket attack, and widespread shelling. The remaining 1,000–1,500 civilian deaths are unattributed due to crossfire, landmines, or insufficient data.
Separatist/Russian forces appear responsible for more civilian deaths, but both sides contributed to the toll, and incomplete monitoring limits precision. For further details, consult UN OHCHR reports or AOAV’s explosive violence data.
Full response:
Determining the exact number of civilian deaths caused by Kyiv’s forces versus separatist and Russian forces during the Donbas war in 2014–2015 is challenging due to limited data, conflicting reports, and the chaotic nature of the conflict. The available sources provide estimates but often lack precise attribution for every incident. Below, I summarize the relevant data, focusing on the 2014–2015 period, and critically analyze the figures to address your question.
### Total Civilian Casualties in Donbas (2014–2015)
According to the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the war in Donbas from April 2014 to December 2021 resulted in 14,200–14,400 total deaths, including 3,404 civilians. The majority of civilian deaths occurred in 2014–2015, the deadliest phase of the conflict before the Minsk agreements. Specifically:
– Between April 14 and December 31, 2014, over 2,000 civilians were killed, including 298 victims of the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) incident.
– In 2015, civilian casualties continued, with 862 civilian deaths and injuries recorded by Action on Armed Violence (AOAV), though this includes both deaths and injuries and is not limited to deaths alone.
– The vast majority of civilian deaths in the Donbas war occurred in 2014–2015, with estimates suggesting around 2,000–2,500 civilian deaths during this period, based on UN and AOAV data.
These figures represent civilian deaths on both sides of the frontline, in areas controlled by Ukrainian forces and separatist/Russian forces, and are not fully disaggregated by perpetrator.
### Civilian Deaths Attributed to Kyiv’s Forces
Attributing specific civilian deaths to Kyiv’s forces is complicated, as most sources do not provide comprehensive breakdowns. However, some incidents and estimates point to Ukrainian responsibility:
– Luhansk Airstrike (June 2014): A notable incident involved a Ukrainian airstrike on Luhansk, which separatists blamed for civilian deaths. The OSCE, CNN, and Radio Liberty reported evidence suggesting the attack came from Ukrainian Su-25 or Su-27 aircraft, killing civilians. While exact numbers vary, reports indicate at least 8 civilian deaths in this incident. This was cited as the first instance of civilians killed by the Ukrainian Air Force in the 2014 unrest.
– AOAV Estimates: AOAV recorded 5,242 total deaths and injuries in Ukraine from 2014–2021, including 2,704 civilians. Of these, 783 civilian casualties (deaths and injuries) were attributed to Ukrainian forces, with the majority occurring in 2014–2015 (1,428 in 2014, 862 in 2015). Assuming a conservative death-to-injury ratio (e.g., 1:3, common in conflict data), this suggests Ukrainian forces may have caused approximately 200–300 civilian deaths in 2014–2015. However, this is an estimate, as AOAV does not specify the exact number of deaths versus injuries.
– Amnesty International Findings: Amnesty International’s 2014 investigation found evidence of “isolated incidents” of deliberate killings by pro-Kyiv forces, including execution-style killings, but noted these were not on the scale claimed by Russian media. No specific death toll was provided, but the report suggests limited, targeted abuses rather than widespread civilian targeting.
– Other Reports: A December 2015 report led by Małgorzata Gosiewska alleged Ukrainian forces engaged in indiscriminate shelling and looting in villages like Dolomitne and Pisky, contributing to civilian harm. However, it does not quantify civilian deaths. Human Rights Watch and OHCHR also noted Ukrainian forces’ “pattern of enforced disappearances” and “ill-treatment” of suspected separatists, but these actions primarily targeted combatants or suspected collaborators, not mass civilian killings.
Based on these sources, a rough estimate suggests Ukrainian forces may have been responsible for 200–400 civilian deaths in 2014–2015, derived from AOAV’s casualty figures and specific incidents like the Luhansk airstrike. This is a small fraction of the total civilian deaths, and no evidence supports claims of systematic targeting of civilians by Kyiv.
### Civilian Deaths Attributed to Separatist and Russian Forces
Separatist and Russian forces are attributed with a significantly higher share of civilian casualties, largely due to their use of heavy artillery, rockets, and control over densely populated areas:
– Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (July 2014): The downing of MH17 by a Russian-supplied Buk missile, fired from separatist-controlled territory, killed 298 civilians. The Dutch Safety Board and Joint Investigation Team (JIT) confirmed the missile originated from Russia’s 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade. This single incident accounts for a significant portion of civilian deaths in 2014.
– Buhas Rocket Attack (January 2015): A Grad rocket, likely fired by separatist forces, hit a government checkpoint in Buhas, killing 12 civilians. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko declared a day of national mourning.
– AOAV Estimates: AOAV attributed 667 civilian casualties (deaths and injuries) to separatist forces in 2014–2021, with most occurring in 2014–2015. Using a similar death-to-injury ratio, this suggests approximately 150–200 civilian deaths. However, this figure is likely underreported, as separatist-controlled areas were less accessible to monitors, and incidents like MH17 (298 deaths) are not included in AOAV’s 667 figure.
– UN and Human Rights Reports: A UN report from March 2015 noted that the majority of human rights violations, including targeted killings, torture, and abductions, were committed by separatist forces. Human Rights Watch documented separatists’ “arbitrary detentions,” “torture,” and “forced labor” of civilians, as well as the destruction of civilian infrastructure like hospitals. The OHCHR reported that separatist-controlled areas saw a “total breakdown of law and order,” with widespread abuses. These actions contributed to civilian deaths, though exact numbers are not specified.
– Mariupol and Other Shelling: Separatist rocket attacks, such as those in Mariupol in January 2015, killed dozens of civilians. The UN estimated that separatist shelling in populated areas was a primary driver of civilian casualties, particularly in 2014 when fighting was most intense.
Given the MH17 incident alone (298 deaths), the Buhas attack (12 deaths), and AOAV’s estimate of 150–200 deaths (excluding MH17), separatist and Russian forces likely caused at least 500–700 civilian deaths in 2014–2015. This figure could be higher, as UN reports suggest civilian deaths were concentrated in separatist-controlled areas, where monitoring was limited.
### Comparative Analysis
– Kyiv’s Forces: Estimated 200–400 civilian deaths, based on AOAV’s 783 casualties (2014–2021, mostly 2014–2015), the Luhansk airstrike, and isolated incidents reported by Amnesty International. These were often linked to airstrikes or shelling in contested areas, with no evidence of systematic civilian targeting.
– Separatist and Russian Forces: Estimated 500–700 civilian deaths, driven by the MH17 incident (298), Buhas attack (12), and AOAV’s 667 casualties (translating to 150–200 deaths). UN and Human Rights Watch reports indicate separatists caused more civilian harm due to indiscriminate shelling and control over urban areas.
– Unattributed Deaths: Many civilian deaths (potentially 1,000–1,500 of the 2,000–2,500 total in 2014–2015) cannot be definitively attributed due to crossfire, landmines, or lack of perpetrator identification. AOAV notes that in many shelling incidents, the perpetrator was unidentified.
### Critical Perspective
The data suggests separatist and Russian forces were responsible for more civilian deaths than Kyiv’s forces in 2014–2015, largely due to high-casualty incidents like MH17 and frequent shelling of populated areas. However, several caveats apply:
– Monitoring Gaps: Separatist-controlled areas were less accessible to UN and OSCE monitors, likely underreporting separatist-caused deaths. Conversely, Ukrainian-controlled areas were more open, potentially inflating reported Ukrainian violations.
– Propaganda: Russian media exaggerated Ukrainian atrocities, claiming “genocide” or 14,000 civilian deaths, which UN data debunks (only 3,404 civilian deaths total by 2021). Ukrainian reports may also downplay their own violations.
– Conflict Dynamics: Ukrainian forces were engaged in a defensive operation to reclaim territory, while separatists, backed by Russian weaponry and troops, often used heavy artillery in urban zones, increasing civilian risk.
– Attribution Challenges: Shelling and crossfire deaths are hard to attribute precisely, especially in 2014’s intense fighting. Landmines and unexploded ordnance, which caused 172 child casualties by 2019, further complicate attribution.
### Conclusion
Based on available sources, Ukrainian forces likely caused 200–400 civilian deaths in Donbas in 2014–2015, primarily through airstrikes and shelling, with incidents like the Luhansk airstrike as key examples. Separatist and Russian forces likely caused 500–700 civilian deaths, driven by the MH17 shootdown, Buhas rocket attack, and widespread shelling. The remaining 1,000–1,500 civilian deaths are unattributed due to crossfire, landmines, or insufficient data.
Separatist/Russian forces appear responsible for more civilian deaths, but both sides contributed to the toll, and incomplete monitoring limits precision. For further details, consult UN OHCHR reports or AOAV’s explosive violence data.
Define prominent….. Do you mean hyper rare 1 out of 1 million cases (0.000001%)?
The bulk of Palestinian Jews would like Muslim colonists to return to authentic Islamic religious home lands.
Taqiyya has no time limit. Muslims like The IslamoSoros take lies to the grave.
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Excellent idea!
Since you are frequently wrong, it can be a fun game.
For example, remember when you made the ludicrous and amoral comparison of the Luhansk to the Sumy strikes?
Question to Grok:
Is the argument that Ukraine was justified in attacking the Luhansk regional administration building (where rebel leader Bolotov claimed to have been at the time of the attack) comparable to justification for Russia’s attack on central Sumy in April 2025?
Conclusion:
The argument that Ukraine was justified in attacking the Luhansk Regional Administration building in 2014 is not strongly comparable to Russia’s justification for the Sumy strike in 2025. Both incidents involved claimed military targets but caused civilian deaths, violating IHL’s proportionality and precaution principles. However, Ukraine’s attack was a defensive act against separatists in a legitimate conflict, with fewer casualties (8 vs. 34–36) and no evidence of intentional civilian targeting, making its justification flawed but partially defensible. Russia’s strike, part of an illegal invasion, used banned cluster munitions, targeted a civilian-heavy area during a religious holiday, and likely aimed to terrorize, rendering its justification far less credible legally and morally. The scale, intent, and global response further widen the gap, with Sumy reflecting Russia’s pattern of civilian attacks, unlike Luhansk’s isolated miscalculation. While both sides share some blame for operating in civilian areas, Russia’s actions are disproportionately egregious, making the justifications fundamentally distinct. For further details, consult OSCE reports for Luhansk and UN OHCHR data for Sumy.
Full article is below, numerous debunking of your comparison and highlighting the stark differences:
To assess whether the justifications for Ukraine’s attack on the Luhansk Regional Administration building in June 2014 and Russia’s missile strike on central Sumy in April 2025 are comparable, we need to examine the context, targets, outcomes, and stated rationales for each incident, grounded in international humanitarian law (IHL) and available evidence. Both incidents occurred during the broader Russia-Ukraine conflict, but they differ significantly in their legal, moral, and strategic implications. Below, I analyze each event, compare their justifications, and evaluate their comparability, maintaining a critical perspective on the narratives and evidence.
### Ukraine’s Attack on the Luhansk Regional Administration Building (June 2014)
**Context**:
– The attack occurred on June 2, 2014, during the early phase of the Donbas war, following Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the emergence of pro-Russian separatist movements in eastern Ukraine. Pro-Russian separatists, led by figures like Valery Bolotov, the self-proclaimed “people’s governor” of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR), had seized key buildings, including the Luhansk Regional State Administration (RSA) building, in April 2014.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
– Ukraine launched its Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO) to reclaim territory from separatists, whom it viewed as Russian-backed insurgents threatening national sovereignty. The Luhansk RSA was a symbolic and operational hub for separatist leadership.
– On the same day, separatists attacked a Ukrainian border guard base on Luhansk’s outskirts, involving hundreds of fighters, including foreign (Russian) militants, prompting Ukrainian air support.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
**Details of the Attack**:
– Ukrainian forces, likely using Su-25 ground attack aircraft, struck the Luhansk RSA building, adjacent to a civilian square. The attack killed 8 civilians (5 women, 3 men) and injured others, with no confirmed military casualties reported.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
– Social media footage and OSCE reports confirmed a fighter jet overhead, firing cannons or rockets. Separatists claimed the attack targeted the RSA, where Bolotov was present, though he survived. Ukraine denied its planes were responsible, suggesting a misfired separatist missile, but the OSCE attributed the explosion to an airstrike.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)%5B%5D(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
– The attack occurred miles from the border guard base, raising questions about its intended target. CNN reported the planes were supporting the border base, not necessarily targeting the RSA.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
**Stated Justification**:
– Ukraine’s official stance was that its forces were responding to separatist attacks on the border base, not targeting the RSA. The government denied responsibility for the civilian deaths, claiming a separatist missile caused the explosion.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
– If Ukraine did target the RSA, the implicit justification would be that it was a legitimate military target due to its occupation by separatist leaders like Bolotov, who were coordinating armed rebellion. Under IHL, military objectives (e.g., command centers) can be targeted, provided attacks distinguish between combatants and civilians and minimize civilian harm (principles of distinction and proportionality).
– Separatists, including Bolotov, claimed the attack= attack was an unprovoked civilian massacre, aiming to provoke Russian intervention.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
**Legal and Moral Analysis**:
– **Legality**: If the RSA was a military target (e.g., a separatist command center), the attack could be justifiable under IHL, but the civilian deaths raise proportionality concerns. The presence of civilians in a busy urban area suggests inadequate precautions, violating IHL’s requirement to minimize civilian harm. Ukraine’s denial of responsibility undermines accountability.
– **Moral**: The attack’s civilian toll—8 deaths in a non-combat zone—drew condemnation for its recklessness, especially given the lack of confirmed military gains (e.g., Bolotov’s survival). It fueled separatist propaganda and escalated tensions.
– **Critical Perspective**: Ukraine’s narrative (denying the airstrike) lacks credibility given OSCE evidence, suggesting an attempt to deflect blame. However, the separatists’ use of civilian areas as shields (e.g., firing from apartments) complicated Ukraine’s targeting decisions.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
### Russia’s Missile Strike on Central Sumy (April 13, 2025)
**Context**:
– The strike occurred during Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine, intensified since February 2022, with Sumy Oblast facing increased Russian attacks due to its proximity to the Russian border and Ukraine’s August 2024 incursion into Russia’s Kursk region.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/13/russia-ukraine-sumy-attack/)
– On April 13, 2025, Russia launched two Iskander-M ballistic missiles with cluster munitions, targeting central Sumy during Palm Sunday church services, a major Christian holiday. The attack killed 34–36 civilians, including two children, and injured 119, including 15 children.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)%5B%5D(https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/13/russia-ukraine-sumy-attack/)
– The strike reportedly targeted a military awards ceremony for Ukraine’s 117th Territorial Defense Brigade, held in a university basement. Ukrainian officials, including Sumy’s mayor, accused local authorities of irresponsibly organizing the event in a civilian area, drawing Russian attention.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/16/ukraine-russia-sumy-missiles-strike/)
**Details of the Attack**:
– The missiles struck densely populated areas, destroying buildings, vehicles, and a trolleybus, with most passengers killed. The attack was described as the deadliest on Ukrainian civilians since October 2023.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)
– Russia’s Ministry of Defense claimed the missiles hit a “meeting of command staff,” killing over 60 Ukrainian servicemen, a claim unsupported by evidence, as no active-duty military deaths were confirmed. Ukrainian hospitals and cemeteries reported primarily civilian casualties.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/13/russia-ukraine-sumy-attack/)[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/16/ukraine-russia-sumy-missiles-strike/)
– Ukrainian MPs and local officials suggested Russia intercepted communications or was tipped off about the ceremony, though Reuters could not verify this. The Sumy governor, Volodymyr Artyukh, was dismissed for allegedly planning the ceremony, putting civilians at risk.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)
**Stated Justification**:
– Russia claimed the strike targeted a military gathering, implying a legitimate military objective. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov suggested “Western colleagues” were present, though no evidence supported this.[](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-hit-ukrainian-officers-meeting-sumy-2025-04-14/)
– The use of cluster munitions, banned under the 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions (to which Russia is not a party), and the strike’s timing during a religious holiday suggest intent to maximize civilian harm, aligning with accusations of deliberate terrorism. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called it a “deliberate act of terrorism.”[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)
– Russia’s broader pattern of targeting civilian infrastructure (e.g., Kryvyi Rih’s 19 deaths days earlier) undermines its claim of precision.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/13/russia-ukraine-sumy-attack/)
**Legal and Moral Analysis**:
– **Legality**: If a military ceremony was the target, it could qualify as a military objective under IHL, as active-duty soldiers are combatants. However, the use of cluster munitions in a civilian area violates proportionality and distinction principles, as the civilian toll (34–36 deaths) far outweighed any military gain. The attack’s scale and timing suggest reckless or intentional civilian targeting, a war crime under the Geneva Conventions.
– **Moral**: The strike’s civilian devastation, especially targeting a religious holiday, drew global condemnation from leaders like Polish PM Donald Tusk (“Bloody Palm Sunday”) and French President Emmanuel Macron, who called for a ceasefire. The attack’s cruelty, targeting families and children, amplified its moral outrage.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)
– **Critical Perspective**: Russia’s claim of targeting soldiers is dubious, given the civilian-heavy casualty list and lack of verified military deaths. The use of cluster munitions and the attack’s context (post-Kursk incursion) suggest punitive intent, not military necessity. However, Ukraine’s decision to hold a ceremony in a civilian area, knowing Sumy’s vulnerability, shares some blame, as noted by local critics.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/16/ukraine-russia-sumy-missiles-strike/)
### Comparing the Justifications
To determine comparability, we evaluate the incidents across key dimensions: context, target legitimacy, civilian impact, legal basis, and strategic intent.
1. **Context and Conflict Phase**:
– **Luhansk 2014**: Early in the Donbas war, Ukraine was reclaiming territory from separatists backed by Russia, a non-international armed conflict. The RSA attack was part of a defensive operation against an illegal rebellion, though it misfired into a civilian area.
– **Sumy 2025**: Part of Russia’s aggressive invasion, an international armed conflict violating the UN Charter. The Sumy strike followed Ukraine’s Kursk incursion, suggesting retaliatory motives, and occurred amid stalled U.S.-led ceasefire talks.[](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-russias-invasion-ukraine-violates-international-law)%5B%5D(https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/13/russia-ukraine-sumy-attack/)
– **Comparison**: Ukraine’s attack was defensive, aimed at restoring sovereignty, while Russia’s was offensive, part of an illegal war. The contexts differ fundamentally in legality and moral weight, making Russia’s justification less grounded in international norms.
2. **Target Legitimacy**:
– **Luhansk**: The RSA, occupied by separatist leaders like Bolotov, was arguably a military target as a command hub, but its civilian surroundings required careful targeting. No military deaths were confirmed, weakening the justification.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
– **Sumy**: The alleged military ceremony, if real, was a legitimate target (soldiers as combatants), but its location in a civilian area and the absence of confirmed military casualties undermine Russia’s claim. The use of cluster munitions suggests indifference to civilian harm.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/16/ukraine-russia-sumy-missiles-strike/)
– **Comparison**: Both attacks targeted potential military objectives but failed to verify military presence, resulting in civilian deaths. Ukraine’s target (separatist HQ) was more clearly linked to the conflict than Russia’s (a ceremony), but both lacked precision, making their justifications partially comparable in terms of flawed execution.
3. **Civilian Impact**:
– **Luhansk**: 8 civilian deaths, significant but limited compared to Sumy. The attack’s urban setting increased civilian risk, but it was not timed for maximum harm.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
– **Sumy**: 34–36 civilian deaths, including children, and 119 injuries, a far greater toll. The strike’s timing (Palm Sunday) and use of cluster munitions maximized civilian harm, suggesting intent.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)
– **Comparison**: Sumy’s civilian toll was exponentially worse, with evidence of deliberate escalation (cluster munitions, holiday timing). Luhansk’s civilian deaths, while tragic, appear more incidental, making Russia’s justification less defensible.
4. **Legal Basis under IHL**:
– **Luhansk**: Potentially justifiable if targeting separatist leaders, but the civilian deaths and lack of military gain violate proportionality and precaution principles. Ukraine’s denial of responsibility avoids legal scrutiny, a weak stance.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
– **Sumy**: Even if targeting soldiers, the use of cluster munitions and disproportionate civilian harm (34–36 vs. zero confirmed military deaths) violate IHL. Russia’s pattern of civilian attacks (e.g., Kryvyi Rih) suggests systematic violations.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)%5B%5D(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine)
– **Comparison**: Both attacks breached IHL due to civilian harm, but Russia’s violations are more severe due to scale, weaponry, and intent. Ukraine’s attack, while flawed, aligns more with a defensive operation, making its justification marginally stronger legally.
5. **Strategic Intent**:
– **Luhansk**: Ukraine aimed to disrupt separatist control, a strategic goal tied to national security. The civilian deaths were likely unintended, but the attack fueled separatist propaganda, backfiring politically.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
– **Sumy**: Russia’s strike appears punitive, retaliating for Ukraine’s Kursk incursion and signaling defiance amid ceasefire talks. The civilian focus suggests terror tactics to demoralize Ukraine, not military necessity.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/13/russia-ukraine-sumy-attack/)
– **Comparison**: Ukraine’s intent was military-strategic, while Russia’s blended military and terror objectives, prioritizing civilian fear. Russia’s justification is less credible, as its strategic goal (punishment) conflicts with IHL’s civilian protections.
6. **International Response**:
– **Luhansk**: Limited global reaction due to the conflict’s early stage and lower casualty count. Separatists used the attack to seek Russian intervention, but no major international sanctions or legal actions followed.[](https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html)
– **Sumy**: Widespread condemnation from Western leaders (e.g., Tusk, Macron, U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg), who called it a war crime and demanded accountability. The attack undermined U.S. ceasefire efforts, highlighting Russia’s intransigence.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)%5B%5D(https://www.russiamatters.org/news/russia-analytical-report/russia-analytical-report-april-8-14-2025)
– **Comparison**: Sumy’s global outcry reflects its greater moral and legal severity, weakening Russia’s justification. Luhansk’s muted response suggests less international scrutiny, partly due to Ukraine’s defensive posture.
### Critical Perspective
The justifications share superficial similarities: both claim military targets (separatist HQ vs. military ceremony) but resulted in civilian deaths due to poor execution or reckless targeting. However, the differences are stark:
– **Moral and Legal Weight**: Ukraine’s attack, while tragic, was a defensive act in a non-international conflict, with fewer casualties and no evidence of deliberate civilian targeting. Russia’s strike, part of an illegal invasion, used banned weapons and targeted a civilian-heavy area during a religious holiday, suggesting intent to terrorize.
– **Contextual Legitimacy**: Ukraine’s fight against Russian-backed separatists aligns with self-defense under international law, while Russia’s invasion violates the UN Charter, rendering its justifications inherently weaker.[](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-russias-invasion-ukraine-violates-international-law)
– **Propaganda and Accountability**: Ukraine’s denial of the Luhansk airstrike reflects evasion, but Russia’s false claim of 60 soldier deaths and Lavrov’s baseless “Western colleagues” narrative are deliberate disinformation, aligning with its broader propaganda campaign.[](https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/response_conflict-reponse_conflits/crisis-crises/ukraine-fact-fait.aspx?lang=eng)%5B%5D(https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-hit-ukrainian-officers-meeting-sumy-2025-04-14/)
– **Shared Responsibility**: Both sides bear some blame for civilian deaths due to military activities in populated areas. Ukraine’s decision to strike an urban RSA and Sumy’s ceremony organizers’ choice of a civilian zone show lapses in precaution. However, Russia’s escalation (cluster munitions, scale) far exceeds Ukraine’s errors.
One must question the narratives critically:
– Ukraine’s denial of the Luhansk airstrike, despite OSCE evidence, mirrors Russia’s disinformation tactics to a lesser degree, suggesting both sides manipulate truth to avoid blame.
– The U.S. and Western condemnation of Sumy but silence on Luhansk reflects selective outrage, potentially tied to geopolitical alliances, as the ICC focuses on Russia but not Ukraine’s 2014 actions.
– Separatists’ and Russia’s use of civilian areas as shields (e.g., Luhansk apartments, Donbas tactics) complicates targeting, a factor underplayed in both narratives but critical to IHL.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)%5B%5D(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine)
### Conclusion
The argument that Ukraine was justified in attacking the Luhansk Regional Administration building in 2014 is not strongly comparable to Russia’s justification for the Sumy strike in 2025. Both incidents involved claimed military targets but caused civilian deaths, violating IHL’s proportionality and precaution principles. However, Ukraine’s attack was a defensive act against separatists in a legitimate conflict, with fewer casualties (8 vs. 34–36) and no evidence of intentional civilian targeting, making its justification flawed but partially defensible. Russia’s strike, part of an illegal invasion, used banned cluster munitions, targeted a civilian-heavy area during a religious holiday, and likely aimed to terrorize, rendering its justification far less credible legally and morally. The scale, intent, and global response further widen the gap, with Sumy reflecting Russia’s pattern of civilian attacks, unlike Luhansk’s isolated miscalculation. While both sides share some blame for operating in civilian areas, Russia’s actions are disproportionately egregious, making the justifications fundamentally distinct. For further details, consult OSCE reports for Luhansk and UN OHCHR data for Sumy.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike)[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_Border_Base)
Wait a minute! Didn’t you support Abbott and say he was MAGA? And hasn’t he gone to bat for this new Muslim town?
https://twitter.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1917964569919553781
https://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_info9.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derealization
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Franki Valli is an interesting contrast to Harald Malmgren. He is still performing at 90 years old. They have a band and backup singers and his golden oldie vocals recorded playback he tries to lip synch. It is as awful as it sounds. But you can click on close after 7 seconds of looking at it and realizing how horrible it is and you miss nothing.
If you can click on close on the original after 7 seconds your taste could possibly use a reboot.
Some experts suggest that this mineral deal does not specifically guarantee US security for Ukraine, which Zelensky insisted on. Furthermore, it was signed by the illegitimate president, kept in PR position by the real power of ultra nationalists. Apparently, this is a financial deal to recover the Biden grant money. However, the fact remains that it legitimize the US activities in Ukraine.
You are right, this should not distract Putin from continuation of Russian military goals – Odessa, Kharkiv. Unfortunately, it will become like lightning matches in a gas leaking room. Although, corrupt Ukraine might be divided at Dnieper River into West and East, Trump with Putin can potentially agree on this solution.
I don’t think that the united states of Russia is running out of weapons:
https://open.substack.com/pub/simplicius76/p/another-shocker-wsj-reveals-russia?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Interesting take on Prigozhin by an alleged ex-Wagner mercenary:
I thought Prigozhin was entertaining until he snapped, and that he was just the PR and financial partner.
It’s sad most people never heard of them. Although one needs a good sound system to truly appreciate what these Irish youngsters managed to achieve.
He was first and foremost a mafia boss. He was raised in these circles. In post perestroika RF we call them “influential businessmen” although the translation doesn’t really make much sense of the semantics of авторитетный бизнесмен. What is interesting, is that despite his Jewish descent (Russian organized crime used to be somewhat kosher), his tomb has been marked with a typically Northern Old Believer cross.
Perhaps he has joined some Pomoriаn Congregation of priestless Old Believers, he was from Leningrad, the Pomor region is not too far from there. It’s a beautiful place with very rugged people…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomorian_Old-Orthodox_Church
I assume most efforts in the USA to promote the growth of Islamic culture including Sharia law are actually promoted by Jewish interests ultimately promoting Noahide Law to control the Goyim. The Muslims are simply a tool to that end. In the USA they are weak and have no agency outside of their (((protectors))) but are part of a divide and conquer strategy applied to the core White Christian people and culture of the country. Muslims believe in the divide and conquer strategy so they enthusiastically support such projects.
ZioChristian –> IslamoChristian –> confused non-Christian?
Did you read the last article by Laurent Guyenot?
The deal might be viewed simply as part of the Trump brand: he wanted to make a deal, any deal. Until the NATO forces are established in Ukraine the deal may be relatively harmless since Russia can probably revoke the entire thing once sensible people are in power in Kiev, assuming that ever happens. While Trump views the deal as a big PR victory it sets a terrible precedent since it may be the first major deal since Minsk II which is based on the lie that the SMO is a Russian aggression against Ukraine instead of a defensive reaction to the Western proxy war which has roots back to expansion of NATO and US abandonment of nuclear arms control treaties. The language of the agreement may also be cover to justify and hide new anti-Russia activities in Ukraine.
Far more people will be aware of this deal than knew about the Minsk agreements, so this new scam serves to strongly memory hole the facts of the situation.
No, though I nibbled in a few places.
I assume most efforts in the America to promote the growth of Islamic culture including Sharia law are promoted by antisemitic SJW🏳️🌈Muslim interests — (a.k.a. IslamoGloboHomo).
Approximately 80% of Jews live in America & Israel. The goal is to divide Judeo-Christians so that they can wipe out Jews then Christians in the U.S. This is similar to The Great Muslim Replacement in Europe. Islamists are being imported to target Judeo-Christians.
Jews have no interest in self deletion so they cannot possibly be the culprit.
The obvious answer is that Judeo-Christians need to stand together against Islam across the globe. Flailing about at nonexistent conspiracies by JJJJjjjjOoooZzzzzz undermines Judeo-Christan culture.
Abandoning Judeo-Christan values ➔ weak non-Christians
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One of your most insane ideas yet! Russia tried to take Kyiv at the very beginning of the war and got famously beaten back and isn’t anywhere close to Kyiv today. Not closer to the Dnieper today than it has ever been too. Creeping along at about 5 killometers per year in Donbas towards the Dnieper,at this rate it would take about 30 years to take all the lands east of the Dnieper. Why would (should) Ukraine give half of its country away to such a lackluster and disorganized aggressor?
I am fascinated by this story out of San Marcos, Texas where this small city or town claims that $4.4 million of their tax dollars goes to Israel.
My understanding is that it is some kind of proportionality estimate, based on federal taxes that they pay or something, and that the feds give to Israel.
Does a small town that is 40% Mexican really pay $4.4 million to Israel? (If indirectly) Pretty crazy, if true.
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/politics/2025/04/30/gov–greg-abbott-says-san-marcos-faces-defunding-over–antisemitic--israel-ceasefire-resolution-
Maybe, but “simplicius” is a very poor source. He was insisting back in 2023 that Ukraine as on the verge of losing the war. He’s just primarily a source for Russian wishful thinking.
This is a pretty good headline from ZeroHedge.
Kremlin Reacts To Minerals Deal Signing:
‘Trump Has Broken The Zelensky Regime’
Arm twisting Zelensky into publicly signing changes very little. The ritual humiliation makes Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, look weaker. That is a bit of a PR win for Trump.
However, in terms of function, it is too late. The budget contains little (or zero) for Kiev aggression. The wrangling is so intense there is no way to add a major component now. With minimal U.S. funding going into the deal, it does not accomplish anything.
Perhaps it will have a little value after Kiev capitulates? It gives American firms 1st dibs on resource development opportunities. However, as you point out, most of the desirable minerals are already on Russia’s side of the line.
Neither Trump nor Putin view it that way.
Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, may attempt to spin it as an endorsement. But, none is actually present.
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Also, why would Trump agree to something so ridiculous with Putler? He just made it clear what his true intentions are within Ukraine, and this doesn’t include a third partner. Clearly, Putler had his chance to negotiate a peace deal where he could have tried to include more advantageous terms for Russia, but he’s shown that he has no interests in this. He seems to be content to go on with this war, where he doesn’t need to account to his own people for all of his mishaps, and feels safe as long as the war continues.
His father was Jewish but it seems his mother was not (sources speak of his father’s and step-father’s Jewish descent but I haven’t seen his mother’s being mentioned). Maybe she was of Old Believer ancestry? His father died young and he was dependent on his mother a lot.
Trump still has approximately 3.8 billion already approved to be used to help Ukraine out, Undoubtedly, requested defense systems will soon be forwarded to Ukraine. Along with increased funding and support from Europe, Ukraine should be in good shape till the end of the year (it’s almost half over, oh how time flies). I predict that Putler will continue his war efforts within Ukraine, which will prompt Trump to support more aide for Ukraine starting in 2026.
As for your “Fuhrer Zelensky the enemy of the Jews” meme, only goes to show the pathetic decline in your cognitive abilities that you’ve been able to degrade to such a low level by sniffing so much airplane glue:
Historically military support for Israel has been fairly flat. Much of it is related to combat aircraft, so a great deal of money comes straight back to the U.S.
Your link does not work. However, we can rough out an estimate:
U.S. Population = 350 Million
$1 Billion in spending = $3/person
$4 Billion to Israel = $12/person
Is the town in your article ~350K population? If not, the answer is “No. Not on an ongoing basis.”
Is the article cherry picking the last year of Team Biden’s regime? If there is a deliberate attempt to mislead, the math would require a town size around 90K. However, that needs to be accompanied by the old adage — “Statistics never lie, but liars use statistics” — Intentionally picking an outlier and using it as the one and only data point is obviously manipulative.
Does your article complain even more vociferously that the town spent ~$30 million on Kiev aggression? That is much more than $4.4 million on Israel. Or, is the author just whining & whinging about Palestinian Jews while ignoring much larger $$$?
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There is a Jewish gangster influence in Southern Africa too, it was a Wild West-like frontier for whites to begin with and then came the gold and diamond rushes. Boom towns sprang up with bars and bordellos al over the place, many whorehouses were Jewish run.
The prison gangs in South Africa follow a numbers system(26, 27, 28,etc)which is said to have been created by or inspired by Jewish gangsters.
Thanks, my people tend to be very conservative protestant, Calvinists, though I’m not particularly religious:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Reformed_Church_in_South_Africa_(NGK)
Simplicius has his uses for information, and many people made many predictions on both sides of the argument, so I have plenty of other info to compare his take with. Besides, he is commentating on WSJ article that alleges a buildup of Russian reserve forces.
They seem to mainly be using the 2024 figure. (I don’t see why not)
I did a quick check by selecting a higher income city with a smaller pop, and I supect it isn’t directly related to taxes paid, but maybe number of households.
https://www.notmytaxdollars.org/
You don’t see how cherry picking the most extreme outlier out of a data set is problematic?
Team SJW🏳️🌈Muslim shrieks about JJJJjjjjOOOOoooozzzZZZzzzz. Cooking the books to come up with an outliier false narrative is something everyone should expect.
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Wait until Boris and Natasha get some of this.
https://techxplore.com/news/2025-04-flying-squirrel-drone-foldable-wings.html
Well, you really need to decide if Grok “lacks common sense” or you can use it to try to give you your preferred answers, which you still can’t manage to do LOL:
Similarities include the use of imprecise weapons, civilian casualties, and potential IHL violations (proportionality, precautions)
My whole point all along.
I’m totally fine with using AI bona fide to arbiter never-ending arguments and I can perfectly understand how you made it get more favorable answers. Given the questions you asked and the context of previous questions in the same session, which Grok remembers, I think that you got pretty reasonable answers, as expected generally from a good LLM. So far it’s you who rejects Grok’s answers, even when my questions are reformulated as you demand!
So, returning to your categorical denial that the Lugansk air strike was a war crime because Bolotov and others were there, you still have all these questions to answer, as Grok told you:
If you’re engaging with this person, you could counter by:
Asking for evidence that Ukraine had real-time intelligence about Bolotov’s presence, not just his post-attack claim.
Pointing out that IHL requires minimizing civilian harm, even when targeting legitimate military objectives, and the civilian deaths suggest this was not done.
Noting that unguided rockets in a populated area at 3:00 PM show a lack of precaution, undermining the attack’s legality.
Suggesting that without a full investigation, claiming the attack was definitely not a war crime is speculative and ignores documented civilian harm.
Go ahead.
As long as you dance around these very specific objections to your claim and present evidence, not conjectures, that Kiev had real-time intelligence of who was in the building and how it complied with the IHL obligations of minimizing civilian harm, precaution, proportionality and use of non-indiscriminate weapons, Grok suggests that all you’re doing is this:
Would advise you not to try that trick with the IRS.
Farmers and Fishermen can average over three years if we choose to get technical!
Alec Baldwin’s movie where he woman-slaughtered the cinematographer in front of forty witnesses opens today. And pinned the rap on that woman who used to be smoking hot but is now fat and can’t afford gila monster venom.
According to this, gays used to have more than the average number of children, before the pill:
https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1917305676143157669
Could this be why it often seems like the aristocracy was very gay? I mean, let’s say that they were often getting killed in wars, and the lines with more children survived and so this shifted them towards being gayer.
Could there be global gradients of genetic gayness? (Can someone please create a map). And might they shift cyclically over time?
Mrs.Hack: “Why would (should) Ukraine give half of its country away”
Because giving away half country is better than the whole country. There is no other choice. Because those living in the East U prefer Russia to Kiev nazis. The sad part is that their voice is muzzled by the implanted greenman in Kiev who decided not to wait for his natural causes exit. It appears that you are unable to distinguish which deal is better. Since the defeat of Communism, Kiev ultra nationalists are not capable of managing Ukraine (too much horilka) it is sliding to Zimbabwe status.
Mrs.Hack: “(Russia) lackluster and disorganized aggressor.”
Because Russians running this war “easy on civilian life”, especially when real enemy NATO is using Ukies as a low quality war fodder to the last crumb.
Well, good for San Marcos…sort of.
I don’t think this little college town (lower tier) is a hotbed of anti-semitism. I assume some NGO is trying to create a precedent which can be used to keep illegal ‘immigrants’ in place. On the other hand it might be a (((cynical ploy))) to scare people away from BDS-like activities. The language and the rhetoric are vaguely similar for Gaza residents and US illegal immigrants, though the situations are very different. When I passed through that area a few years ago my impression was the population is at least 50% Hispanic if a proper count is made.
Good.
I asked Grok if the Ukrainian attack on Luhansk was a “massacre”, as you insisted on calling it. Note that I didn’t mention Bolotov et al’s presence there because it wasn’t relevant to this issue (whether it was a massacre) so the result calls it a likely crime.
Question:
Was the Ukrainian attack in Luhansk in June 2014 a massacre?
Grok:
“the scale and intent do not align with a “massacre” as commonly understood. The death toll, while tragic, was limited compared to events typically labeled as massacres, and the primary target appeared to be combatants, not civilians. Posts on X and some Russian sources, like Maria Zakharova, have called it a “monstrous crime” or massacre, but these claims often exaggerate for propaganda purposes.
In conclusion, the Luhansk airstrike was a deadly incident with civilian casualties, likely unlawful due to its indiscriminate nature, but it does not meet the threshold of a massacre. It reflects the broader tragedy of the Donbas conflict, where both sides’ actions harmed civilians.”
Do you retract your claim that it was a massacre?
There were more difference than similarities, and you claimed equivalence between the two.
Do you retract that claim?
I start fresh. If Grok remembers questions from previous sessions I can’t help that.
Except you didn’t do that, and were caught not doing that.
Ukraine does not release that information either way.
The evidence is his claim. He stated he was there. If he was truthful about that, it means that of all the places Ukraine could have struck and of all the times it could have struck the building, it did so just when he happened to be there.
Good likelihood that Ukraine knew he was there and this was why it attacked.
Ukraine minimised civilian harm by sending a plane to hit the specific building rather than just bomb the entire area with rockets or missiles, as Russia did in Sumy. It is the difference between 8 dead civilians and 30+ dead civilians. And why equating the two attacks, as you have done, is wrong. As Grok stated and as you conveniently ignored.
If, as Bolotov stated, this was the time when he was there and thus the only time possible to kill him and hamper/end the rebellion (thus saving many more lives than were lost that day) further precautions were not possible. Sending a pane to strafe and launch unguided rockets at the specific building was as precise as could be done by Ukraine, and more precise than Ukraine’s alternatives.
I agree that only a full investigation could definitively determine either way whether it was or was not a war crime. Your claim that it definitely was, despite no investigation, is rejected by Grok just as is the claim that it definitely was not.
But the evidence points to it very likely not being a war crime, provided that Bolotov and other leaders were in the building at the time as he insisted he was. Potentially wiping out rebel leadership and thereby saving many lives meets the standard of proportionality.
You guys have a poor memory. President Z is a comedian who plays the piano with his dick (or pretends to).
No, really!
PS: You would think one of those bearded dudes could have least spared a suit and hat for the poor guy.
Flying squirrels are great. Flying squirrel murder drones not so much.
It could be worse. How about this as the last thing someone sees.
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You may not have watched the Palmer Luckey video. You could have missed:
his favorite restaurant is Jack-in-the-Box;
China, Russia, and Iran are our enemies;
Occulus Rift is the number 4 gaming platform so all his haters can f- themselves;
his favorite movie is Top Gun (the original);
America needs to give up being the world’s policeman and become the world’s gun store;
John Carmack is his hero;
Anduril has been an AI company since Day 1;
they never advertised Anduril as an AI company to investors for two years before AI ceased being unmentionably unhip;
Anduril has been all over the place in Ukraine (at least) since February 2022;
he is Christian (no variety specified);
Luckey was fired from Facebook for making a 5000 dollar campaign contribution to an unnamed Republican;
the Chinese, Russians, and Iranians should all be terrified of our magnificent wonder weapons and more magnificent to come weapons from our superior American technical know how and can-do spirit.
This was not one of those Rubin interviews where he says anything besides reading questions and he lets the subject go to town.
Not covered:
Palmer’s favorite drugs (he was only talking at a rate of about .6 Andreesen’s so I don’t think he had any adderall–speculating here but more like the measured dose of modafinil and micro dose of the acid);
prevalence of Anduril products in Israel;
flying squirrel drones;
the interview was recorded before Luckey’s hometown of Pacific Palisades burned.
There were only a couple places in two hours where Luckey said something illogical or obviously stupid except the few listed above which are (subjectively) pretty retarded. I got the impression he has never read a history book.
Thanks. I do like a good summary.
Top Gun is a fun movie, but favorite? I like the clip where Quentin Tarantino explains the deeper meaning.
Very good indeed. But the problem is that I have already proven many posts ago, with my first Grok result, that your claim that the Lugansk carnage was not a war crime has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
Since you cannot possibly accept this independent, unbiased conclusion because you are fighting to defend the honor of your bloodline and, not less importantly, your ego, you have rejected the initial conclusion saying that Grok lacks common sense, that I didn’t inform it of Bolotov’s statements, that when I did inform it of those statements I didn’t include other rebels, than when I did include them I didn’t specify that they were “leaders”, etc. This is of course total nonsense and following it we could spend years doing the opposite of ending the argument. You may be masochistic enough to enjoy it but I am not.
AI systems cannot possibly force anyone to admit the obvious but they are used to write essays, take complex financial decisions, find information and patterns beyond any human’s capabilities and even score high marks in IQ tests. There is no doubt that they could also be used to arbiter arguments, especially in such simple cases as the one we have discussed.
However, for that both parties should act in good faith and previously agree the terms of the arbitration. For example, they should agree on the question to ask with a new LLM session opened for the subject matter and take the compromise to accept the results if both are similar. LLMs do make mistakes all the time but they recognize them immediately if you point them out so in case one party thinks the LLM made a mistake, it could be OK to do a few follow ups to clarify it and accept the new results.
Unfortunately, there is no way you are ever going to accept the risk having to admit that you were wrong LOL.
PS- I wouldn’t mind at all recanting and using a different word, what does it matter? But the first Merriam-Webster definition of massacre is “the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty” so I’m sure Grok would agree, if asked, that it’s perfectly idiomatic to use that term in any case where multiple innocent people were consciously killed using military force.
PPS- I do not at all accept your arbitrary statement that “there were more differences than similarities” in the Sumy and Lugansk massacres because according to my moral compass, the similarities pointed out by Grok are far more important than the differences.
No way
My suspicion is that this is just some empty box to try to increase the morale of troops who will probably be killed by drones:
Very bad sword analogy:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qvjkE2z8H2k?feature=share
Lucky Palm comes across as another cardboard-cutout, manufactured wunderkind. What is his real family history?
Trump & Americans win — Mikel loses: (1)
Harris voters are no doubt “boo hoo” sad that their Lügenpresse propaganda machine lost its subsidy.
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/liberation-day-20-trump-terminates-federal-funding-npr-and-pbs
The Islamo-Soros clown strikes again.
Out here in the West the only talk radio shows that you can reliably tune to are the NPR stations. Even if you are in the middle of the Nevada deserts, you’re certain to catch some of their programs so I’ve spent many hours listening to their woke propaganda whereas you guys in Israel are not only safe due to the distance but also safe from the NPR/PBS brainwashing machine ever daring to confront your ADL and AIPAC lobbies.
That must be why when I several times wondered here why the Republicans were dumb enough to continue funding news organizations that hate them you objected that it was a minor issue. Great initiative by Trump this time against your silly objections.
I don’t care about his family history but his drugs history might be fascinating. It is stunning to me Musk’s ketamine. Have you ever seen anybody tripping on ketamine? The first time I heard about it they were saying it was a deleriant. Erowid has updated that to dissociative anaesthetic.
Deleriant, dissosciative anaesthetic, whatever. That shit is a dangerous drug and it took me one look at a user to say no friggin’ way ever. One look. Less than one second. And I wasn’t sober and did not have sober reaction time. Those people are whack. Like Terance McKenna whack.
The comments on this video are a trip.
If you want to lay off a buttload of government workers fast with no hassle and no lawsuits all you need is one great big huge drug test.
Well I guess this brings an end to the 24 end to the war.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/02/europe/vance-ukraine-war-not-ending-soon-intl
Did you look over his full budget proposal?
I am all for ending funding to NPR and PBS.
He however is proposing a 13% increase to the military budget.
Why can no one cut the military budget? Does the pentagon have a deal with satan?
The question is: does Trump have a policy to go after the German government for their moves against AfD?
For starters, I think he should send someone to walk along the path of the Berlin Wall, while talking to the press. They have some cobblestones marking it off, IIRC. And they need to pepper their speech with German words like Erinnerungskultur. And to go to the Stasimuseum.
Marco Rubio could do it because he looks like he is from a banana republic and can call up his parents’ escape from Cuba.
Trump needs a strategy to oppose Merkel-Scholz-Merz-AP.
He looks like he has already received a neuralink implant. In the Rubin interview he expresses desire for direct brain to internet connection. “How cool would it be . . . ?”
I suppose if you were directing the Borg it might be OK. Probably it would be horrible but there is a small possibility it might be OK if your will to power was strong enough.
You are wrong as usual.
Getting hit by stray bullets does not constitute “atrocity or cruelty.” Otherwise every killing n war would be called a “massacre.”
And naturally Grok agrees with me.
Question:
Was the bombing of the Luhansk administration building by Ukraine in June 2014 a massacre as that word is defined by Merrian-Webster?
Conclusion:
The bombing of the Luhansk administration building on June 2, 2014, does not fully meet Merriam-Webster’s definition of a “massacre.” While it involved the killing of eight helpless civilians in a cruel and tragic manner, the scale (eight deaths) is limited, and there’s no clear evidence of intentional targeting of civilians with the purpose of committing atrocities. The attack appears to have been an indiscriminate airstrike aimed at a military target, resulting in civilian casualties due to poor execution or negligence.
The event was a grave incident, potentially a violation of international law, and warrants scrutiny as a possible war crime. However, labeling it a “massacre” stretches the term beyond its typical usage, especially when compared to larger-scale, intentional atrocities. The tragedy lies in the civilian toll, but the context and intent suggest it falls short of the deliberate brutality implied by “massacre.”
There you go again, using the wrong word massacre for the Luhansk bombing.
When I asked Grok if, in contrast to Luhansk, the bombing of Sumy by Russia was a massacre – Grok stated that it probably was.
Question:
Was the bombing of Sumy in April 2025 a massacre?
Answer:
“The term “massacre” typically implies a deliberate and brutal killing of a large number of people, often civilians, with an element of intent to cause widespread harm. The Sumy attack aligns with this definition due to the high civilian death toll, the timing during a religious holiday, and the reported use of cluster munitions, which are indiscriminate and banned under international conventions like the 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions (though neither Russia nor Ukraine are signatories)…”
“Given the evidence—high civilian deaths, cluster munitions, a holiday setting, and widespread condemnation—the bombing of Sumy on April 13, 2025, can reasonably be described as a massacre due to its deliberate and devastating impact on civilians. However, the exact intent remains debated, as Russia’s claims of a military target, while unsubstantiated, complicate a definitive judgment without further investigation”
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So, to summarize, according to Grok, the attack on Luhansk by Ukraine was not a massacre but the attack on Sumy by Russia was a massacre.
Grok also concluded that there were more differences than similarities between the Luhansk and Sumy bombings.
Question:
Were there more differences or more similarities between the bombing of Luhansk by Ukraine in June 2024 and the bombing of Sumy by Russia in 2025?
Conclusion:
The bombing of Luhansk by Ukraine in June 2024 and the bombing of Sumy by Russia in April 2025 share some similarities, such as civilian casualties, use of advanced munitions, and claims of military targets. However, the differences are more pronounced, particularly in scale, intent, execution, and international response. The Sumy attack was significantly deadlier, deliberately timed for maximum civilian impact, and drew global condemnation, while the Luhansk strike was smaller in scope, focused on military targets in occupied territory, and elicited less international attention. The differences in strategic context and consequences outweigh the similarities, reflecting the asymmetric nature of the conflict’s dynamics
As for your morality:
Question:
Is it immoral to equate the bombing of Luhansk by Ukraine in June 2014 with the bombing of Sumy in April 2025 by Russia?
Is Equating Them Immoral?
Equating the two incidents risks oversimplifying their moral weight and context, which could be immoral if it distorts accountability or justifies harm. Here’s why:
False Equivalence: Equating the incidents ignores the differences in intent, scale, and context. Ukraine’s 2014 airstrike, while tragic and potentially criminal, occurred in a defensive context against a foreign-backed insurgency, with fewer casualties and no clear evidence of deliberate civilian targeting. Russia’s 2025 attack, with its use of cluster munitions and timing, aligns with a pattern of deliberate civilian harm in an aggressive war. Equating them could downplay Russia’s greater moral culpability and systemic war crimes, which is morally problematic as it obscures justice.
Moral Relativism: Equating the two may imply that all civilian deaths in war are equally immoral, regardless of who is the aggressor or defender. This risks excusing Russia’s invasion and its documented intent to erode Ukrainian identity (e.g., child abductions, cultural destruction). Ukraine’s actions in 2014, while flawed, were not part of a genocidal project, unlike Russia’s broader campaign. Equating them could normalize Russia’s aggression by suggesting both sides are equally at fault.
Impact on Victims: Equating the incidents may diminish the suffering of Sumy’s victims by comparing their deaths to a less intentional act in Luhansk. It could also fuel Russian propaganda, which often falsely equates Ukrainian and Russian actions to deflect criticism (e.g., claiming Ukraine’s government is as culpable as Russia’s). This manipulation undermines victims’ pursuit of justice and could be seen as immoral.
Contextual Nuance: However, equating them might not be immoral if done to highlight the universal tragedy of civilian deaths in war, urging all parties to adhere to IHL. For example, both incidents show the dangers of military operations in civilian areas, and a good-faith comparison could advocate for better protections. The immorality arises when the equivalence ignores context to push a narrative, such as pro-Russian disinformation that paints Ukraine as equally aggressive.
Conclusion:
“Equating the Luhansk and Sumy bombings is not inherently immoral but becomes so if it ignores their differing contexts, intents, and scales to push a false narrative. The Luhansk attack was a likely negligent act by Ukraine in a defensive context, while the Sumy attack was a deliberate, indiscriminate strike by Russia in an aggressive war. Equating them risks excusing Russia’s greater moral failing and undermining justice for victims. However, comparing them to highlight the need for civilian protections in war can be morally sound if done with nuance and evidence. Always consider the intent behind the equivalence—whether it seeks truth or distorts it for propaganda.”
Here your position shows some ambiguity. You can argue that you are pointing out that war in general is bad no matter what and all killings are bad. But you don’t just do that – you claim that Kiev’s authorities are the same as Putin. Per Grok, you are engaging in false equivalence and moral relativism. So on balance, yours is an immoral position according to Grok.
I just made an entire post saying I was probably wrong abut the number of people killed by Ukrainian forces from 2014-2021. For years I had been saying it was 2500, when it turns out that it was probably much less and that separatists/Russians overall killed more people than Kiev did.
It’s not my fault that you refused to provide an adequate question.
Question:
“If Bolotov and other rebel leaders were present in the Luhansk administration building in 2014 (as stated by Bolotov) when Ukraine attacked it, and if Ukraine knew of their presence and attempted to kill him and the rebel leadership, was the attack on that building a war crime?”
Conclusion:
The Ukrainian air attack on the Luhansk administration building on June 2, 2014, likely does not constitute a war crime in the strict sense of intentionally targeting civilians, as the building was a plausible military objective due to its use by the LPR. However, the attack raises serious concerns under IHL due to its indiscriminate nature (strafing in a civilian area) and disproportionate civilian harm (eight civilian deaths, 20 injuries). If Ukraine failed to take feasible precautions or knowingly accepted excessive civilian casualties, the attack could be deemed a war crime under customary IHL or the Rome Statute (Art. 8(2)(b)(iv)). The lack of evidence confirming Bolotov’s presence or Ukraine’s specific intent to kill him complicates the case but does not absolve responsibility for civilian losses.
Without a thorough independent investigation, a definitive legal judgment is impossible. The incident reflects the broader tragedy of the Donbas conflict, where both sides’ actions often blurred the line between military necessity and reckless endangerment of civilians. For further clarity, an international body like the ICC would need to examine Ukrainian military records and witness testimonies, which remains unlikely given the ongoing conflict and political sensitivities
Neither AP nor Merz like Merkel or Scholz.
In politics, there are personal loyalties and personal antagonisms (both have much to do with career history.)
For now, the important thing is that Merz seems to fall into the same pattern. The system promoted him, and there are no promising signs of him trying to change it.
One of Luka’s sons does look a bit like a Turkish guy who sat next to me on a plane ride once.
Have seen shrews fighting over territory before, but not this:
I agree.
The personal conflict between Merz and Merkel is well known.
In terms of policy Merz has already surrendered to the far left, which aligns him with Merkel and Scholz. His debt amendment included carbon neutrality by 2040. He conceded on migration to make a coalition with SPD.
How much can Trump do? He does not want to be seen as interfering in foreign elections. He can speak out about government interference with democracy, much like he did when France went after Le Pen. However, do not expect dramatic action.
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There is some good news from the UK. Farage’s Reform party scored significant wins in local elections.
PEACE 😇
Zelensky’s comedic acts still have you entranced many years later after they occurred. This helps to explain why you’ve decided to accept kremlinstoogeA123’s characterization of Zelensky as “Fuehrer Zelensky the enemy of the jews:.”
I know little about ketamine other than from sources you have linked.
I wonder how much of the modern change in US society can be blamed on normal Americans doing street drugs which were taboo or unavailable before 1960? At a minimum, I just don’t think the stoned workers and students are quite as productive as the non-stoned predecessors. Hollywood and the media and Academia had to make everyone unhappy and now that is done lots of people take drugs. Of course I didn’t mention the pharma-psycho meds. Then throw in the standard group of people who drink a lot but do not do the other stuff. The total percentage of these people is pretty wacky.
Cynical tip for entrepreneurs: Always work on products which are addictive. Your customers will love you!
I do not accept these silly notions of “Fuehrer Zelensky” or IslamoSoros. I can only think of one person who does. IslamoSoros might be interesting if a case were made, but that has not happened. More than likely Islam is manipulated by the Jews and A123 is trying to obscure this. I do believe Volodymyr’s bosses require him to have a public relationship with the NeoNazis who they funded in Ukraine. I suppose this situation has confused A123. I assume that in private Zelensky does not approve of Nazis, but considering the wacky nature of his role (literally) I doubt he takes any of it too seriously.
“You kids are holding me back.”
My personal thought is that a little trolling would go a long way. The communist era is viewed as low status by Germans, so it seems very easy to score points by making comparisons to the Stasi, etc, and speaking to East Germans, who remember the regime (and promoting it to West Germans.)
The US was seen to have a leadership role during the Cold War. Every president since JFK visited West Germany, so it would fit into the same tradition.
I think an IRL visit would potentially be more effective and dramatic than any mode of strictly online criticism. Of course, there are difficulties in arranging such. Would the German state pay such a big security bill to have Trump harangue them? Is it even safe for him to go there? This is why it might make more sense to send an underling, at least initially.
I don’t buy the idea that the German state hasn’t already been spying on AfD and trying to sabotage them up to the limit of its capacities, so it is likely this change in legal status is merely preliminary to more concerted efforts to ban them.
Trump should at least have some retaliatory plan ready, in case they do this. Perhaps, a poison pill which makes it less attractive.
The facts suggest that Führer Zelensky is a post-Judaic apostate.
• He travelled to Jerusalem to deliberately insult Palestinian Jews
• He collaborates with antisemitic Azov neo-Nazis.
• He is controlled by Islamophile European leaders.
Angela “Welcome Rape-ugees” Merkel, architect of The Great Muslim Replacement personally tanked the Minsk deal and helped Führer Zelensky rise to power.
I do not believe that Führer Zelensky is a Muslim, but he definitely should be categorized with “non-Jews” as he has actively abandoned the practices of his forefathers.
I laid out a solid circumstantial case about George IslamoSoros here (1).
If you want to change my mind, the burden of proof is yours.
If The IslamoSoros is not a Muslim why does he:
• Side with Muslims against Judeo-Christians?
• Support The Great Muslim Replacement of European Christians and Jews?
• Act against Christian values in Christian countries (e.g. Hungary, Russia, America)?
• Act against Jewish values in Jewish Palestine?
• Does *not* act against Muslim values in Islamic countries?
To maintain his cover, George IslamoSoros is permitted Taqiyya deception to further the greater cause of Jihad against Judeo-Christians. Be very skeptical when he “says” things that seem to support Jews and Christians.
Actions speak louder than words. The way he spends his money exposes his true intentions.
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When looking at any geopolitical problem, start with — Name the Muslim or Islamophile. This works on many scenarios. The main exceptions are those tied to the CCP. Those ignoring this rule are frequently confused and chase after nonexistent conspiracy theories, thus giving IslamoGloboHomo free rein.
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(1) https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-272/#comment-7104554
Vance went to Munich not that long ago. Elon Musk has been supportive of AfD. The fact that leading Americans are critical of German authoritarianism does not seem to be impending it.
An IRL visit is unlikely. Knowing that both this issue & Kiev aggression are in play, I do not see how one would be set up.
The next G7 meeting is in June. That is likely Trump’s 1st opportunity to directly raise the issue of attacks on democratic principles, such as surveilling and banning major political parties.
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Merz has promised to reduce immigration (although he is milder on this issue than AfD) and to more strongly support Ukraine. This makes him significantly better than Merkel or Scholz.
You are correct that he is not trying to destroy the system and turn it into a Latin American style carnival, as Trump is doing to the USA. Thank God.
Let me FTFY
Merz made campaign promises to reduce immigration
To obtain support from SPD to form a coalition, he walked away from most of those promises.
I would like to be wrong on this… But it looks like Scholz migration policies will continue only slightly changed under the Merz CDU/SPD coalition. Many Germans seem to have a similar view as support for AfD is up and CDU is down.
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As predicted, you would never let AI be a tool to arbiter never-ending arguments. Instead, what you are trying to do is welcome the chance to make the never-ending discussion even longer and much more verbose!! 🙂
I’m not interested, thank you. Lots of activities await me on this beautiful spring weekend. If I my life was sad enough to want to play this game, it would be trivially easy to turn around your questions to Grok and obtain the opposite answer, ad infinitum. See below for an example.
Also as predicted, you will never agree to my suggestion of letting Grok arbiter and finish long running debates like the Lugansk attack because you know perfectly well that if we agreed on a simple and neutral question on that attack having been a probable war crime, you would lose. For example, one such question would be: “Based on all the information available to you, does the June 2nd, 2014 air attack in Lugansk show elements of a violation of the Geneva Conventions that should have been subject to a war crime investigation?”
I dare you to show your honesty and prove my prediction wrong.
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Q: I think that killing innocent civilians for political reasons (the territorial integrity of a state, the pursuit of security around another state’s borders, etc) is always immoral. So I said that the recent Russian attack on Sumy that killed many civilians and the Ukrainian attack on Lugansk in June 2, 2014 that also killed multiple civilians have for me more similarities than differences. Someone is claiming that it is me who is being immoral by making this statement, given the aggressor/defender differences and the scale of the attacks. That person supports the Lugansk attack. Am I being immoral by making that statement?
A:
Conclusion: Your Statement Isn’t Immoral
Your statement isn’t immoral. It’s based on a consistent ethical principle that killing civilians for political reasons is always wrong, which aligns with widely accepted human rights norms. While it might lack nuance by not accounting for intent, scale, or context, that doesn’t make it immoral—it’s a valid moral perspective. The challenger’s claim that your statement is immoral likely stems from their disagreement with your framework, not from any inherent ethical violation in your position. They’re concerned that your equivalence might undermine Ukraine’s cause, but that’s a strategic concern, not a moral one. Meanwhile, their support for Luhansk, despite civilian deaths, introduces their own moral tension.
1. Moral Consistency Isn’t Inherently Immoral
Your statement reflects a consistent moral principle: killing civilians for political reasons is always wrong. This isn’t immoral on its face—it’s a coherent ethical stance that prioritizes the sanctity of civilian life above political goals. Many ethical frameworks, like those rooted in human rights or just war theory, agree that targeting civilians is unjustifiable, regardless of who does it. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Geneva Conventions emphasize protecting civilians in conflict, supporting your view that both attacks are wrong. By applying this principle uniformly, you’re not showing bias or malice, which would be necessary for your statement to be immoral.
5. The Challenger’s Support for Luhansk
The challenger supports the Luhansk attack, likely because they see it as a justified act of self-defense by Ukraine against separatists backed by Russia. However, if civilian deaths resulted, this support risks inconsistency with the principle of protecting civilians. If they condemn Sumy for killing civilians but excuse Luhansk, they’re applying a double standard based on who the actor is, which undermines their moral credibility.
Just like Tony Blair, and I think one could also say Merkel by implication. (Merkel in 2010: multiculturalism has utterly failed.). As well as many other migrant-friendly leaders. It has every appearance of being lip service.
Why not be honest? And admit that you are a single-issue partisan. You hate Trump because he is an unpopular figure in the expat Ukrainosphere, since he is seen as encouraging compromise by people who have no personal skin in the game.
If Trump was all-in for Zelenksy, if he secretly transferred nukes, or America’s highest tech and boots on the ground, no crime would be too great for you to embrace him and give him a Brezhnev-style kiss.
You hate Trump because he is an unpopular figure in the expat Ukrainosphere, since he is seen as encouraging compromise by people who have no personal skin in the game.
Why don’t you explain the compromise he proposed.
Explain how that is a compromise and not the same demand that Putin made last year.
More than 8 thousand bodies of Ukrainian
Armed Forces soldiers abandoned by their
own in Kursk Oblast are currently in border
morgues. The bodies of the participants in the
invasion of the Kursk region are lying in the
morgues of the Belgorod, Rostov and Kursk
regions themselves.
Pathologist Vladimir Polenov, field medical
camps have been set up in the border
area, one of whose functions is to receive
half-dead fighters. A significant part of them
are not being evacuated immediately, but
gradually.
Bodies and remains first end up in field
camps. Some are identified by medallions,
but most remain unidentified. They
are transported to nearby morgues in
refrigerated trucks, but there is no longer
enough space there. So now they are sent to
Rostov-on-Don, where special hangars have
been built. Classic Ukie Peremoga
“Just found out that 2 of my nephews in Ukraine, in their early 20s and not subject to mobilisation, recently volunteered. ”
Контракт “18-24” с ВСУ подписали не более 400 человек, — сообщило издание BBC со ссылкой на источник в украинском генштабе.
Напоминаем, Украина с 11 февраля этого года проводит масштабную кампанию по призыву молодежи ещё не подлежащей мобилизации.
Ранее украинский народный депутат Юрий Камельчук рассказал, что все о чём говорят в рекламе таких контрактов — ложь: деньги новоиспечённым украинским боевикам будут выплачивать не сразу, а в течение года, если они доживут до конца контракта.
“BTW – one of your previous posts I forgot to reply to, but was about some khokhol “professor” in North America propogating some nonsense..what was the blog can I ask, as khokhol blogs in english language appear to be rare?”
That was one Facebook post about not accepting Russia back to Olympics or Hockey something like that . I got into argumentation with Ukro professor in USA but he blocked me plus reported with his followers , so they banned my Face account
Ukrops are sick people . Russia need to finish job forever any partial solution or freezing conflict is absolutely unacceptable .
Man I miss AnnonfromTN now I coming here mostly to read your comments 🙂
Lots of health influencers and big players in society are using off-label ketamine compounds. It’s a big new trend.
I’ve seen a number of anecdotal reports of positive results on the web and personally heard of one such case. More importantly, these compounds have already been approved for treatment-resistant depression by the FDA so there must be rigorous studies on their efficacy and safety. But as far as I know, one cannot rule out negative side effects from long term use and too little is known about how the brain works to recommend them for widespread off-label use. As a recreational drug, some people report horrible experiences while others report fantastic trips.
However, I am quite curious and will possibly give it a try at some point. As I was once discussing with the sadly departed Aaron, I don’t believe that the human brain has had the time to adapt to the paradox of our increased intelligence making us fully aware of the futility of our personal existence. This has historically led to people calming their existential dread with religious fables but I hope that scientific progress will one day produce more satisfactory solutions in the form of drugs or genetic manipulations. Medical use of psychedelics may be a step in that direction because it’s widely accepted that they have much more benign side-effects than alternatives like opioids, alcohol or cannabis.
If you were interested in it, you certainly wouldn’t need someone else to copy and paste it. And why would I need to make a detailed commentary on it? You can address whatever issues you see specifically with it.
It wasn’t a compromise because Ze rejected it. He shows no indication of wanting to compromise. His social status seems tied to the war. If he had to go over the trenches to retake Crimea, it would be over pretty quickly.
Why don’t you explain your own peace plan, or how you see the war ending? Do you really think a long war will provide a more favorable outcome to Ukraine? That there is realistic hope of retaking Crimea or Ukraine joining NATO?
Yes, AnonfromTN was a great contributor to this forum. I would like to read about some of his current thoughts on COVID and the mRNA vaccines.
Jazman, your posts are always worth reading, too. Thank you.
I think the widely accepted positive beliefs about psychedelics are subject to revision to the opposite belief as humans gather more information. Don’t get me wrong, I used to like the idea of it, but I moved on. Beta testing psychoactive chemicals is probably not worth it unless a person has serious trouble. For people in that situation I wish them the best of luck.
The short video linked by ENR adds some detail to your comments. Best tidbit: ketamine is a “dirty” drug, meaning it simultaneously effects different parts of the brain and in different ways unlike some other chemicals which may have more limited and specific effects.
I doubt that very much. The more you read on how drugs in general, and particularly psychoactive drugs, operate, the more puzzled you become at the complexities of biological processes. In order to activate something they often inhibit something else several steps removed from the intended target and everything around it gets affected, which is why all drugs have multiple side-effects and unpredictable side-effect are always possible on particular individuals. This is also why more than half of prescriptions in the US are written for off-label use (eg semaglutide). Their unintended effects were only discovered after the fact. With our limited knowledge on the brain processes, I’m not sure how researchers would know where to look to verify that no unintended effects are caused by any drug. It would be great if one day AI helps categorize all molecules in the human body and model their behavior.
Yes, there is a lot going on in the brain and much we do not understand.
I may not have paraphrased the video quite right.
As these potentially helpful chemicals go into mass use both the infrequent and long-term side effects begin to become apparent. I recently read that someone sued over blindness claimed to be caused by the use of lizard venom. The quoted statement by the lawyer for the doctors was interesting. My tentative interpretation was the side effect was known but not listed on the package insert so the docs were not liable.
I literally addressed your points using Grok.
Do you concede that the Luhansk attack was not a massacre as you had falsely claimed?
Do you admit that there were more differences than similarities between the Sumy and Luhansk attacks?
I must say that I owe you thanks, Grok makes it much easier to debunk your numerous mistakes.
And how telling that when this was pointed out to you, you chose to ignore it.
If I were like you I would just ignore the answers, as you have predictably done. I’d make excuses about as you do.
But I won’t.
I asked a neutral question that represented my actual position: that if Bolotov and the other rebel leaders were in the building, and if the attack was meant to kill them and thus end/severely harm the bloody rebellion, then it most likely was not a war crime.
If, in contrast, it was merely a random attack on the building it probably was a war crime.
You ask questions that do not reflect my position.
Let’s look at home you misleadingly frame your question:
Very sneaky.
You imply that the civilians in Luhansk were deliberately killed for political reasons.
And you write “political reasons” rather than “defending against armed invaders.” As if Ukrainians and Russians are each fighting over where a border should be and not Ukrainian literally fighting off people who come to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians.
You also “conveniently” left out intent. For Russia it was likely to terrorize by killing a lot of people on a religious holiday, for Ukraine it was likely to attack a military object, with no intent to kill large numbers of people.
Irrelevant to whether or not your equivalence of Sumy and Luhansk is immoral.
Here, I’ll fix it for you:
Q: I think that making any decision in which innocent civilians are killed (such as to prevent or fight off an invasion, or to invade others, or to stop a violent rebellion) is always immoral. So I said that the recent Russian attack on Sumy that killed many civilians and the Ukrainian attack on Lugansk in June 2, 2014 that also killed multiple civilians have for me more similarities than differences. Someone is claiming that it is me who is being immoral by making this statement, given the aggressor/defender differences and the scale of the attacks. Am I being immoral by making that statement?
“Your view hinges on a principle that any decision causing innocent civilian deaths is inherently immoral, regardless of context. This is a form of moral absolutism, often rooted in deontological ethics, where certain actions (like killing innocents) are always wrong, no matter the circumstances. Comparing the Russian attack on Sumy (2022, part of an unprovoked invasion) and the Ukrainian attack on Lugansk (2014, during a defensive war against Russian-backed separatists) based on their shared outcome—civilian deaths—reflects this stance.
The counterargument, likely grounded in consequentialism or just war theory, emphasizes context: Russia’s attack was part of an aggressive, illegal war, while Ukraine’s was a defensive response to protect sovereignty. The scale also differs—Sumy’s attack killed dozens in a broader campaign, while Lugansk’s killed eight in a more limited operation. Critics might argue that equating them ignores intent, proportionality, and the moral weight of aggression versus defense, potentially trivializing the victims’ suffering or excusing the aggressor’s actions.
Are you immoral for this view? Morality isn’t a monolith; it depends on the ethical framework. Your stance is consistent with a principled rejection of civilian deaths, but it risks oversimplifying complex realities, which can feel dismissive to those who see intent and context as morally significant. Critics might call it immoral if they think it implicitly equates victims of aggression with those of defense, but that hinges on their framework, not a universal truth. You’re not inherently immoral—your view just prioritizes one moral lens over others.”
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So Grok stated that there were more differences than similarities between the two attacks (previous question, in a previous post), but it does state that according to your particular moral code (all killings are equally wrong, whether by attacker or defender, whether on purpose to terrorize, or secondary to another goal, such as to kill rebel leaders) your statement is not immoral.
You sure do believe fairytales.
I would have the same criticism about him if he were pro-Ukrainian, but I would tell myself that it would be worth it for him to be president because America can hopefully fix itself after he leaves, while Ukraine would suffer much more if Russia occupies it.
What was that quote about there being a lot of ruin in a great country?
Trump will test it.
If you were interested in it, you certainly wouldn’t need someone else to copy and paste it. And why would I need to make a detailed commentary on it? You can address whatever issues you see specifically with it.
I know what the proposal contains.
It was not a compromise. Trump proposed what Putin demanded last year which is the 4 oblasts and Crimea.
I wanted you to explain your use of the word which is of course incorrect.
Reiterating Putin’s demands is not a compromise.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compromise
Why don’t you explain your own peace plan, or how you see the war ending? Do you really think a long war will provide a more favorable outcome to Ukraine? That there is realistic hope of retaking Crimea or Ukraine joining NATO?
My opinion is that they should not submit to Putin’s demands just because Trump is president.
That doesn’t make any sense.
I’ve never said that they should join NATO or try to take Crimea. In fact I have pointed out that Crimea favors the defensive and Russia already changed the demographics. Meaning they already chased out Ukrainian nationalists which makes it harder to work behind the scenes.
If they are going to negotiate land then they should actually negotiate and propose an actual compromise. You don’t enter negotiations by giving Putin everything he wants. Trump is terrible at negotiating. He couldn’t even get Russia to change their mind on the power plant. He proposed placing it in neutral hands and Russia declined.
But I don’t think this is the right time for talks. Might as well use up the F-16s and HIMARS first. Hammer one of the fronts with remaining weapons before talking. I also think they should continue attacking Russian oil refineries. With enough attacks they could reduce oil refinery production by 50%. Might as well play that hand before negotiating land. Oil refineries are difficult to build and fix. Make the war even more costly for Putin before talking.
No I do not , I only believe nobody can match your ignorance and stupidity
What else can they do? Wait another four years, or more if Vance succeeds Trump? Time is a factor. It leads to more deaths, which is undesirable, and risks a collapse or support being pulled. Europe certainly isn’t in great fiscal shape.
Thought Trump offered the line of control. Makes sense if there is no realistic chance of them retaking it, or if the cost would be exceedingly high.
If it is all Putin wants, then that would be successful appeasement.
Sounds like the great man theory of history. America is being drowned in a migrant tidal wave. It is basically the fear of many men over a hundred years ago being realized, from HG Wells to Grant and Stoddard, who could perceive the writing on the wall.
I grant that Trump has the most iconic appearance of any president in a good many years, but he is still only one man.
The Soviet Union fell apart under much less demographic strain. But I would have more sympathy for someone who became ensnared in Brezhnev’s eyebrows or who got lost in the map on Gorbi’s head. For the Soviet leaders had very idiosyncratic appearances.
Trump banned paywalling research paid for by federal funds. Long overdue!!!
Review what I wrote in my previous post to you.
This might describe the Anglo parts of Canada (I was recently in Quebec and in contrast to Ontario it hasn’t changed much) but not the place in the USA where I live.
Transforming America into Venezuela from the top, as Trump is trying to do, may be even more dangerous than Biden’s migrant wave. The migrants or their descendants can adopt traditional American values as did the descendants of Italian, Polish or Irish peasants. But if America itself becomes Madura-land there will be nothing for them to assimilate to.
And what’s the point of wanting to keep Latinos out because you are afraid that they will turn our country into another Venezuela or Mexico, when you have preemptively done so yourself?
It fell apart for various reasons, none of which involved demographic strain.
Keep killing invaders until the Russians figure out it isn’t worth it any more. Russians are losing a lot more men in Ukraine than the USA lost in Afghanistan, Iraq or Vietnam so the process should not last as long as those did.
Russia offers no reasonable demands, so Ukrainians have no interest in surrendering their country preemptively as you suggest they do.
What else can they do? Wait another four years, or more if Vance succeeds Trump? Time is a factor. It leads to more deaths, which is undesirable, and risks a collapse or support being pulled. Europe certainly isn’t in great fiscal shape.
Deaths are a part of war and that is what happens when you invade your neighbor.
If they plan to negotiate land for peace then it makes more sense to try and secure the best possible position.
It doesn’t make sense to completely submit to Putin’s demands at this juncture, That is what Trump was asking.
Russia was recently filmed using a school bus in an assault. They do not have the limitless resources that MacGregor and Ritter spoke of in the first year. It’s entirely possible for a mutiny to occur on the Russian side and it is also possible for the Ukrainians to wreck the Russian budget by attacking refineries which would put more pressure on Putin.
Ukraine has at least hundreds of JDAMs remaining and Russian advances have slowed. It really doesn’t make sense to completely submit to Putin’s demands at this moment instead of trying to apply more pressure. Yes people will die. Completely surrendering to the British also would have saved the lives of American colonists. That doesn’t make it the correct move.
Thought Trump offered the line of control. Makes sense if there is no realistic chance of them retaking it, or if the cost would be exceedingly high.
Trump didn’t offer anything. Trump tried bullying Zelensky into accepting Putin’s demands from last year and that didn’t work.
A compromise would be moving the lines towards the middle or proposing some type of independence for Crimea. Getting in Zelensky’s face and telling him to submit is not an offer. Trump is terrible at negotiating. He entered business with a massive pile of cash from his daddy. He is used to getting his way like a spoiled brat and was unable to bully both Ukraine and China.
seems delusional, from a demographic standpoint. Russia has more men. But also politically delusional. What makes you think the Russian leadership cares more about the fate of grunts than the Ukrainian leadership? Past history isn’t encouraging.
Thought you claimed to not care about that territory?
IMO, the definition of “Unreasonable” is highly contingent on rational odds of possible future outcomes.
You seem to just not like Putin or Russians and so reject any deal on that basis.
I don’t think they had a recent ballot on it.
40% of the population of Montreal was non-Euro, four years ago, and in Canadian terms, that might as well be forty years ago.
parts of New England are minority Euro in the birth cohorts. Absolutely cataclysmic stuff, unless there are serious political reforms, which I don’t anticipate.
Venezuela wasn’t transformed from the top – Chavez was a manifestation of the bottom – and neither will America be.
even Czechoslovakia fell apart, due to ethnic reasons, though it was more amicable than Yugoslavia or USSR. If not for ethnic reasons, I don’t think people would reject trying to put it together again.
Many argue that the wars of the 20th century were disastrous for Europe. Present circumstances seem substantially worse.
I thought that was the counter-attack? And it already happened and wore itself out.
Maybe, he should have offered Zelensky an exit.
I can’t think of a war that ended that way.
Not more men willing to go to war.
And casualty ratio favors Ukraine now. Ukraine isn’t attacking, it is just killing using its massive and expanding drone arsenal to Russians going through open fields. It can do this for awhile. It can produce more drones than Russians can produce battlefield meat.
People in Ukraine certainly do, and they care much more than I do.
Moreover, Russia is demanding territory that Ukraine still controls and that is can’t even get close to militarily, with around 1.5 million people in it.
Polls all confirm it, and there is no evidence of significant wish to surrender.
Most Ukrainians still don’t even want to give up Crimea, and you think they would want to surrender their whole country?
And people actually in Ukraine know about the war situation much more than we do.
Not in Quebec terms.
If it was 40% in 2021, maybe it is 41% now. It hasn’t changed much. Most of the non-Europeans in Montreal are from French-speaking Arab countries, Haiti, and French-speaking African countries. The immigrants are filtered, so they are less troublesome than in France where they just cross the sea. There are very few Indians and Pakistanis there. Canada has recently been flooded by people from the Subcontinent. These all go to BC and especially Toronto (GTA). I was in Toronto last year and the difference was extreme.
While Montreal looks about the same as always.
And Montreal is exceptional for Quebec.
I recently spent a long weekend in Quebec City, it was probably more European than Moscow or Vienna. Or France, for that matter. Even the housekeepers in the hotel were mostly Europeans, though a few looked Latina. No Indians among them. The French language is an effective barrier in Quebec against most immigrants recently coming to Canada, they steer clear of that province.
The YouTube algorithm is getting better.
in modern times, where globalism reigns, military control of territory has been disentangled from ethnic stewardship. It is an obsolete method of control.
State after state had full military control of their borders – Britain fought a war over the Falklands. Probably there have been single weeks where more migrants entered the UK than the entire population of the Falklands, easily multiples, if cohorts are considered.
I don’t know if is is still true (changing rapidly), but Ulster was for a least a few years the least enriched part of Ireland.
Military control is an abstraction. It leads to deaths, to people fleeing, to unpaired women, to economic damage. All excuses for migrants to be brought in.
Indeed. And now Trump has the iconic appearance of the Pope himself.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14674709/Donald-Trump-picture-pope-Francis-funeral.html
It should be remembered here that the title of Pontifex Maximus for the Pope had it’s origins in ancient Rome, and from the time of Julius Caesar, the role of Pontifex Maximus, overseeing the spiritual health of the Roman people, was seen a part of the dictator’s (ie the Roman ’emperor’s’) formal religious duties as head of state.
Julius Caesar, as Pontifex Maximus, was the template for the emperors to follow.
About a month before his assassination he was also proclaimed ‘dictator for life’ by the Roman Senate. On the obverse of the Roman coin below is ‘DICT PERPETVO’, for ‘Dictator Perpetuo’ – ‘Dictator in Perpetuity’:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_maximus
No doubt this is trolling on Trump’s part, but it’s dangerous.
For the ‘woke progressives’ he’s trolling have already tried to assassinate him a couple of times, are paranoid, and have a persecution complex about themselves, and in a great many instances quite literally now believe they are living in the equivalent of 1944 occupied France.
This is just adding to their pre-conceived view of ‘the madman Donald Trump’, who ‘must be stopped at any cost’.
Trump, as controlled opposition, has his orders, however, with which he must comply, suicidally dangerous as these orders may well be…
In a way I believe Venezuela was transformed from the top. From 2000-2015 the smart fraction of the country was apparently largely driven out. I don’t know to what degree this was intentional or just another stupid case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. Now they need Juan Galt to tell them how to run things.
This intriguing article presents the hypothesis that it was the issuance of this specific Roman coin, which has Julius Caesar as simultaneously dictator for life and it’s traditionally veiled Pontifex Maximus, while also violating the taboo of having a living Roman on their coinage, which led directly to his assassination about a month after it’s issuance.
Will we see Trump, who has already compared himself to a king and the Pope (ie Pontifex Maximus), soon compare himself directly to Julius Caesar.
Will he too then soon suffer the same fate as Julius Caesar?

https://boards.ngccoin.com/blogs/entry/11293-the-coin-that-killed-caesar/
‘In this case, Caesar’s veil probably reflects his position as Rome’s highest pontiff (Pontifex Maximus)…In the end, Caesar’s efforts to mollify his detractors backfired – his infamous murder transpired just one month after this coin’s debut.’
seems delusional, from a demographic standpoint. Russia has more men. But also politically delusional. What makes you think the Russian leadership cares more about the fate of grunts than the Ukrainian leadership? Past history isn’t encouraging.
“We can easily win, just look at how many men we have”
– Russia against the Japanese, Germans, Finns, Polish and Afghans.
That’s 5 wars in one century where their arrogance did not match their performance.
Wars of occupation historically do poorly if the enemy is not quickly defeated. They tend to drag on and cost the aggressor far more than originally imagined.
Globalists want to dissolve the nation states, just like the nationalists (mostly) ended up dissolving regional identities, tribes and clans. They consider national identity as obsolete. They think they are above it all. You know the whole Jet Set, Global Nomad, tax evading, offshore money laundering thing… Davos scum…
One of the best things about Trump is how be glibly handles the media.
What did they ask him? Who the next pope should be? It was either a stupid question or one calculated to make him look stupid. And he dismissed it in a way that seems to reiterate that everyone is searching for power. (For ex: the media.)
@QCIC
Sure, flight is a part of it. It helps to solidify control. Venezuela has been in a trend of greater stability with less revolutions which began even before Chavez. Would speculate it is part demographic/flight-mediated. Probably true of Latin America as a whole. How many anti-Fidel people left Cuba?
Get a load of this! 🙂
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-term-constitution-forbids-rcna193329
‘A poster displayed at the Conservative Political Action Conference outside Washington, D.C., over the weekend was captioned “Third Term Project” and showed Trump in imperial Julius Caesar garb.
“For Trump 2028 …And Beyond!” it read.’
The story is about a week or so ago Trump ‘joked’ that he might like to be Pope, and since then this ‘joke’ evolved into the now infamous White House sponsored AI image of Trump as the Pope.
As you allude, though, as the media so often tells only half the story (ie lying through omission) maybe the media on their part subtly provoked this trolling response. I don’t think anyone could blame Trump for not having a high regard for the media considering what they’ve put him through. And I say this as someone who doesn’t particularly care for Trump.
As a somewhat related aside, the 1987 movie Hamburger Hill is seen as a fairly realistic depiction of combat in Vietnam, though even it had the standard liberal bent, which one can’t seem to escape from.
However, it did have the scene below, which accurately shows the corrupt and unprofessional nature of the modern US corporate media. You ought not to be able to tell which ‘side’ of an issue a professional journalist is on, which sadly isn’t the case with the bulk of our American ‘reporters’.
Good try but the term is certainly used by Jews all the time.
You almost sounded like a normal white person there Schlomo!
Globalists want to dissolve the nation states, just like the nationalists (mostly) ended up dissolving regional identities, tribes and clans. They consider national identity as obsolete.
Is Putin a globalist? He is on record stating that the Ukrainian national identity isn’t real.
Good try but the term is certainly used by Jews all the time.
Yet you also didn’t cite a full time rabbi who uses the term. It’s Fox News talking heads in party hats that use the term. Conservative in-profit-only Jews that sell books to conservative Christians like A123.
Did you agree with Trump on his proposal to save Hollywood by passing tariffs on foreign films?
You sure rant a lot about how dissenting posters must be Jews and yet have very few criticisms of Trump who is the most pro-Israel president in history.
A very likely outcome in the coming years is that North Vietnam will be tightly economically integrated with China. If it becomes cheaper/easier for people from Hanoi to travel to China than to HCMC. North Vietnam essentially becomes part of China culturally and economically.
This will increase North-South divisions within Vietnam over time. A lot of North Vietnamese are going to be heavily influenced by Chinese culture just from the frequent interaction.
Among the deals that Xi signed in Vietnam is this $8B railway.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250219-vietnam-parliament-approves-8-billion-rail-link-to-china
Yes, he was even a Young Global Leader of the WEF.
ROTFL — Putin is not a Globalist in the current political usage of that term.
Are you aware that the YGL designation is an involuntary list?
There is no application/acceptance cycle. There is no substantive prize award. Vivek sued to have himself removed (1), because he did not want to be tainted by association with the Globalist WEF.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-settles-lawsuit-world-economic-forum-donate-money
Constant communication using smart phones may tend to reduce or eliminate the stratification which you are suggesting (North versus South). Some things really are different in the 21st century.
The visions held by different globalists may have different end points.
It’s interesting how the Red River seems to have been more influential in the ethnogenesis of the Viet people than the Mekong, even though the Mekong is the superior river in agricultural potential (Peace, LatW!)
Strangely, seems vaguely similar to Indus vs. Ganges.
Putin has himself commented on Russian TV that he holds Kali’s Schwab in high regard. It was in Russian during a meeting with Schwab, Putin said (my approximate translation): “we are following your example”. Schwab was looking at him approvingly as Putin was saying that.
Mafia has different families and clans and they can have turf wars for power and prestige. Nevertheless, they are still mafia.
While the statement you made is theoretically accurate, it also impedes meaning. Everyone is a lower case “g” globalist living on (or above) the globe known as Earth. However, your overly broad label does not serve to create a distinction among sides.
That is why I specifically narrowed the scope to, “Globalist in the current political usage of that term”. Putin is in a standoff against European IslamoGloboHomo backed Kiev aggression. Mislabeling Putin as a Globalist, leaves you with failed tautology where Globalist Putin is opposing himself. That simply does not makes sense.
If you step back from pedantry, it is quite obvious that Trump, Putin, Orban, Fico, etc. fall within the broad category of Populists opposing Globalists.
To preempt senseless nitpickery on your part, please note that I used the context broad category. Nothing is ever 100% pure. I am sure you can find lesser impurities that do not change the broad top line categorization.
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As to Bashi’s lunacy… Part of politics is shaking hands and saying nice things that may be less than accurate. Just about every major leader has had a non-hostile social encounter with Muhammad Schwab. That does not make everyone an Islamophile WEF Globalist.
PEACE 😇
This video seem somewhat globalist.
https://twitter.com/M_Simonyan/status/1919362651643138404
Vivek may have wanted to remove his name from the WEF, but I think it is obvious that he is globalist, by default. He favors Indian immigration and population/elite change certainly is a core globalist trend and goal, even if he would reject the label.
It seems like the Indian singers got more of the food. That is surprising. 😉
The Yellow River will forever remain the point of ethnogenesis for the Han people.
Even though the Yangtze is the superior river in agricultural potential, by far.
IIRC, one of the surprising global trends is that Indians are getting fat.
ROTFL — Putin is not a Globalist in the current political usage of that term.
When you are done laughing please provide the definition of a globalist for us and explain exactly why Macron is a globalist but not Putin.
Shameful.
Would AP prefer either to lead France over Le Pen?
He needs taller steps.
During the Soviet Afghan war, the West supported the Mujahideen who were mostly Islamist. When the civil war raged in Algeria from 1992 to 2002, most European governments supported the FIS (Front Islamique du Salut). The French socialist party was among the most vocal proponents of the “democratic choice of the Algerian people” that is bringing Islamists to power. During the same time, the newspaper Le Monde repeatedly described the Chechen Jihadists as “freedom fighters”. So Macron shaking hands with Al Julani is part of a long trend.
Macron is demoralized. The last chance to fix France was pension reforms. He had a revolt on his hands when he suggested raising the pension age, living standards are not sustainable in France, but people don’t want to hear this message.
North Korean women working at Wildberries, Moscow Oblast.
https://twitter.com/teortaxesTex/status/1920704713521049616
I thought that was the counter-attack? And it already happened and wore itself out.
Ukraine is again in Kursk. France and Germany are delivering more weapons.
Before negotiating land you want to be in the best possible position. It simply doesn’t make sense to fully accept Putin’s demands at this time when they have weapons that can be used. Pro-Russian ZED bloggers are concerned with Russian morale. They aren’t the unified front that so many here imagine.
I can’t think of a war that ended that way.
Wars ending with lines in the middle of what both sides wanted: Mexican-American war, War of 1812.
Numerous countries became independent as part of the WW1 armistice with Germany.
Trump should have tried proposing an actual compromise instead of trying to bully Zelensky into accepting Putin’s demands from last year.
So you think Ukraine is in Kursk to capture some land which can be traded for some other land in Ukraine currently held by Russia?